Classic WoW: Protection Paladin Guide (Part 1) - Talents, AoE Rotations, Tips & Tricks

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  • @kargozgaming
    @kargozgaming  4 роки тому +48

    Hi guys I'm really hoping to get more videos out again instead of just stream vods. There is still a lot left to discuss with regard to pally so this will likely be part 1 of a series. Thanks for all your support over the years, this youtube channel/community is small but its my most cherished asset that im really proud of so thanks for making this a reality for me..talk to u guys later

    • @nunogoncalini6064
      @nunogoncalini6064 4 роки тому +1

      Part 1 is awesome, im lvling one atm almost 41 to start the grind, it would be awesome if u could talk a bit about the starting weaps and shields that we could look at 41 like a entry lvl gear for aoe farming, flurry axe asap but what about the rest? Ty for your time sir and gl, your content is one of the best in classic and im glad its not just a "bwl items are busted"

    • @JediFrog
      @JediFrog 4 роки тому

      If Paladin AOE farming is about reflect damage, then would a Paladin + Druid healer AOE farm be good with druid thorns? How big of a pack could you pull like that?

  • @ovgol.bolofar
    @ovgol.bolofar 3 місяці тому +6

    4.5 years later and I just wanna thank you for making this. The casual way that you break it down works so well for me. I'm getting into Classic after years away from WoW (I started in late TBC) and trying to make a Prot Pally for tanking has been very discouraging. I realize now that I won't be able to put it all together so early and I need to level as RET and then swap over, and you've explained the best way to do that. I appreciate such a chill and practical guide. Got my sub!

    • @kargozgaming
      @kargozgaming  3 місяці тому +3

      Glad to hear, thank you very much!

  • @Samuraiyann
    @Samuraiyann 3 роки тому +7

    watching this in preparation of seasons of mastery. I loved the guide! totally hyped out of my mind

  • @sek9777
    @sek9777 4 роки тому +33

    It's not low-production value, great guide. Also, Paladin levelling streams were really fun and relaxing(compared to other classes).

  • @rek8193
    @rek8193 4 роки тому +4

    Kargoz man you've made my 2020 so far. I just hit 51 on my paladin, AoE farming, I'm getting nub gains since I started working out again and intermittent fasting... you helped more than you could know dude, thanks.

  • @harvestor6404
    @harvestor6404 4 місяці тому +8

    I literally recommend your guides to everyone who plays wow.

  • @SenpaiTheExplorer
    @SenpaiTheExplorer 4 роки тому +2

    Honestly I wish there were more guides JUST like this one that were filled with great information with this "bare bones" sort of setup. Typically, when I watch guides I usually get way to distracted by the corny jokes, the background music that is usually to loud, all the animations and cuts, etc etc... it just makes it hard to focus on the information being shared. So I seriously appreciate this guide a lot thank you so much!

  • @lorettarowell8486
    @lorettarowell8486 4 роки тому +1

    This is great. thanks for breaking down the talents and explaining why you choose the ones that you do and what purpose they have. You always have such informative and fun guides to learn by . looking forward to part 2 !

  • @mattiasappelquist7757
    @mattiasappelquist7757 4 роки тому +2

    FYI, if you read the skill it specificly says you get more mana by keeping SoW active on yourself for melee attacks, but if you judge the target it also affects spells.

  • @theDeadcellspawn
    @theDeadcellspawn 4 роки тому +2

    Your vids inspired me to pick my paladin back up after dropping the char after the first couple weeks at lvl33. Loving the solo aoe leveling even though it can be frustrating at times on a high pop pvp server. Prices of Flurry Axe on my server range from 6-700g+ but one item recommendation I have for new 41s trying the build out is Mug O' Hurt (~5g). 1.5 speed Mace that also has a chance to daze on hit is helpful while fighting humanoids that run or when getting a big pack together and trying to avoid getting dazed yourself. Only a few more levels to 60 then I will get my warlock main to farm the rest of the gold needed for Flurry Axe

  • @anthony_is_away
    @anthony_is_away 4 роки тому +7

    I keep seeing you running around Stormwind on this character and every time I’m like, “oh hey look it’s Kargoz!”

  • @seppmaler8434
    @seppmaler8434 4 роки тому +2

    I like it. I realy want to learn how to paladin. What i miss most is how to tank as a paladin. How can you hold aggro against all out dpsers? Shall i sanct them all before the pull? How to keep the boss standing on you and not running for the dps or the healer? Keep in mind that i'm in leveling stage right now. Means i'm talking dungeons without the perfect gear. No enchants. Just plain leveling.

  • @TheAlPaca02
    @TheAlPaca02 4 роки тому +18

    Any chance on a part 2 m8? Would be great to have some spots covered

  • @tab2457
    @tab2457 4 роки тому +9

    6:38 Starting built RE
    12:25 Alternative
    15:00 AOE

  • @Templarboi
    @Templarboi 4 роки тому +13

    Thought it was a stream notification at first, but so glad to see it's the pally guide instead :D

    • @dudeshamus1451
      @dudeshamus1451 4 роки тому +2

      Same bro lmao! Low key wish it was a stream though.

    • @sek9777
      @sek9777 4 роки тому +2

      Love to see it, all fellas are here! I was hoping for stream too. Regardless, great guide as always Kargoz!

    • @dudeshamus1451
      @dudeshamus1451 4 роки тому +1

      @@sek9777 gang gang bruh

  • @mayintusk
    @mayintusk 4 роки тому +4

    Lovin these videos man, glad to see you're bringing it back

  • @euclid1997
    @euclid1997 2 дні тому +1

    Sweet this is exactly what I wanted/needed to hear. With classic relaunch, I got a couple of newbie friends (to classic classic) and I was wondering what class to go to help them see the game best, im gonna be lvling with them. One playing mage one playing Lock. I couldnt decide between druid, warrior, pally or priest. You saying what you said about pallys being best to boost friends just sold me

  • @crodd92
    @crodd92 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this guide, I am currently leveling my paladin and this guide has been very helpful. I would love to see a more in depth guide on prot pally in a part 2.

  • @southboundguitar
    @southboundguitar 4 роки тому +1

    Humans spin when SoC procs, too. Great video. I 100% agree with you on sit-proc'n. It does work....but it's not efficient, at all. You lose far too much life, before you can even drop one reck-bomb.

  • @alexchism5192
    @alexchism5192 4 роки тому +7

    Really liked the video bro it was a lot more chill and less scripted.

  • @cocopuffgames
    @cocopuffgames 4 роки тому +1

    Just learned so much about how to AOE Pally. I was intimidated to try as a Wow Classic noob, but this gave me enough good solid info that I love playing this build. You've earned my subscription today.

  • @lunakai_360
    @lunakai_360 4 роки тому

    You're great at articulating your sentences and keeping the commentary interesting. This is the first video of your's I've watched but I definitely feel you deserve the sub.

  • @suspicioussalad5578
    @suspicioussalad5578 5 місяців тому

    Seal of command judgement is also considered a melee attack for the sake of crit meaning it will deal 2x and crit based on melee crit. Another reason to use higher ranks. Because a stunned crit is 4x dmg

  • @ryanroberts1758
    @ryanroberts1758 4 роки тому

    Been rocking out with a deep holy/prot build. With current content on farm for our guild, acquiring neat and niche pieces has been easy. Looking forward to the prot grind future.choosing between the two got too exspensive. It’s just too much fun not to dive into prot aoe grinding. GGs mate nice guide

  • @MivaYT
    @MivaYT 3 роки тому

    Nice guide! I usually get first 13 in Retritubion ( SoC + movement speed ), then 11 holy ( str, SoR and consecrate because I swal twist a lot and I apply SoR all the time ), and then I usually go 8 prot to get 3% hit, it sure slows my build but I honestly think getting 3% hit at lvl 40ish boost my leveling up to 60 because I can fight mobs at my lvl, or 1 lvl higher or so, without missing too much

  • @TaraKaos
    @TaraKaos 4 роки тому

    Really enjoyed this, id love to see it from a healer perspective, AKA AOE grind out in the world and be a healing Goddess in dungeons. I did a leveling path where the first 13 are all ret for SOC and POJ, and then go all holy after that.

  • @Getcrow
    @Getcrow 4 роки тому

    Love the videos! Watched your 3.5 hour video with Lesstorr yesterday and now this one. I feel like leveling a 2nd Pally to 60 now :D

  • @Treaxvour
    @Treaxvour 4 роки тому

    Really good guide on basic pally grinding. Good job 👍

  • @bhelockharyh2969
    @bhelockharyh2969 4 роки тому +5

    Nice job as always, like the format and the thumbnail too!

  • @TomDrinksalot
    @TomDrinksalot 4 роки тому

    Ah yea man, Kargoz bringing back the full galaxy brain guides. Ya love to see it.

  • @danielkrsticevic5579
    @danielkrsticevic5579 4 роки тому

    Hey man really enjoy this laid back video, definitely shows you know your stuff. Keep them coming man, huge fan

  • @nothankyou4859
    @nothankyou4859 4 роки тому +5

    shaman main here, really wish i could make a pally alt!

    • @henkarars
      @henkarars 4 роки тому

      if you do, specc holy.. find aoe groups with warriors. Because solo lvling paladin is horrible boring until lvl 30+

    • @ryanroberts1758
      @ryanroberts1758 4 роки тому

      Feel the same way about shaman as a pally 😭

  • @OSRSSco
    @OSRSSco Рік тому

    Great guide kargos love the vids keep up the great work

  • @cycy9154
    @cycy9154 Місяць тому +1

    Sadly not playing classic anymore myself, rip :( However this vid is still useful for TWoW 🐢 Tyvm for a quality vid ^^

  • @bolzerhc5404
    @bolzerhc5404 4 роки тому

    These guides are the bis for tips and tricks for getting through hardcore wow, rip the lvl 18 orc sham long live the lvl 15 human Paladin lets go!

  • @dudeshamus1451
    @dudeshamus1451 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this man!

  • @Treaxvour
    @Treaxvour 4 роки тому +3

    I really regret not being dwarf...

  • @DrWarcraft
    @DrWarcraft 4 роки тому +1

    14:20 "Some ppl like to go glass canon, full yolo, zug zug all day" Hahaha ive never heard this before. Describes perfectly how i play ret in retail pvp -full meathead mode.
    Made me LOL. Gg man. Great vid to watch if ur leveling a prot paladin which im doing slowly, alresdy have a ret main. Never enoigh paladins.

  • @zach9981
    @zach9981 4 роки тому

    This is just what I needed I just hit 41 thanks kargoz!

  • @lemonsquidsec
    @lemonsquidsec 3 роки тому +1

    "You love to see it... unless you don't love to see it "
    It do be like that.

  • @tinafisher
    @tinafisher 4 роки тому +1

    well done Kargoz, enjoy everything you do!

  • @lukadjordjevic2861
    @lukadjordjevic2861 4 роки тому +5

    Itemization would be great...i only know prot pallys from 2.4.3 tbc where u go with spelldmg gear and weapon. Would be interesting to know if this is the case in vanilla to.

    • @nicksander
      @nicksander 4 роки тому +1

      He metioned it a few times, but he recommends just Stamina and Intellect :)

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 4 роки тому

      There is one Paladin tanking set: deathbone.

    • @Oscar-pm9bx
      @Oscar-pm9bx 4 роки тому

      Luka! What talents would i recommened for aoe lvling in tbc, and stat prio, so plate gear with stam > sp cloth/leather etc. Much love

  • @Midgert89
    @Midgert89 4 роки тому

    Im using Mostly lawbringer to farm ZF graveyards. 5.5k mana and lots of healing, unfortunately not alot of spellpower since I don't have judgment peices but it works.

  • @djhanger3035
    @djhanger3035 3 місяці тому

    What do you think of pallytime videos? I think hes been spot on and gets hate for no reason. He brings up topics such as wisdom and weapon speed that others claim arent correct even though hes done extensive research.

  • @ZarisWhiteFoot
    @ZarisWhiteFoot 3 роки тому

    Good video, thanks for the information!

  • @jamesbaggett3655
    @jamesbaggett3655 4 роки тому +1

    In a full raid like mc id say prot is a wasted spot, but ony and some world bosses it works. A pally with aq gear can tank zg and thats the whole story.

    • @fmls8266
      @fmls8266 4 роки тому +3

      If you are not min maxing there is no such thing as "a wasted spot".
      Not everyone is aiming to clear MC in 30 minutes, some people just wanna have fun, while still clearing the raid with no issues.

  • @anthonyiacolino8537
    @anthonyiacolino8537 3 роки тому

    Absolutely Great Video Bud. I can tell your passion in the game and with your building of specs. A+

  • @matthewcovell9118
    @matthewcovell9118 4 роки тому

    Liked the vid. Looking forward to part 2.

  • @Qstorm88
    @Qstorm88 4 роки тому

    Nice vid. I'd like to see a vid like this on twinking!

  • @seanbrunskill2866
    @seanbrunskill2866 4 роки тому +2

    Been using the proc of uther's strength in my rotation... if it procs and i'm below 75-80% health, i'll cast flash of light. Usually if I time it right, the heal goes off just before the shield breaks or sometimes just after but usually spiritual focus allows me to finish casting.

  • @MrFrazzleDazzle
    @MrFrazzleDazzle 2 роки тому

    Wish there was a better image of the final talent build. Kinda hard to follow when jumping around in conversation. Overall great guide and I wanna try, but I gotta get the talents down

  • @theperfectbeing
    @theperfectbeing 4 роки тому +7

    Watching this on my 2nd monitor while i lasher farm on my dwarf prot pally :P

    • @bowman1248
      @bowman1248 4 роки тому

      Go do Zevrim and Alzzin (too half health) too!

  • @roffe8751
    @roffe8751 4 роки тому

    If you dont care about tanking in general, but only want to AoE grind, beeing holy is actually viable. I like having holy shock to pull and do instant heal. Also beeing able to do a free crit holy light on yourself makes it able to take on lots of mobs at a time. Sure you miss out on blessing of sanc (it is however possible to go holy but skipping holy shock and go for sanc instead). If you are a healer in raids this saves you 100 gold extra per week when you dont have to respec. Now I do have massivly better gear than the paladin in this video so it isnt really comparable, but I am able to take on a HUGE number of mobs at a time. My guildies love me for my boosting potential. And I make lots of gold (even though I dont charge guildies ofc).

  • @jimis1970
    @jimis1970 4 роки тому

    Missed your guides man ♥

  • @axo4383
    @axo4383 День тому +1

    Do i go Consecratrioon or holy Shield first for dungeons?

  • @Maliross
    @Maliross 4 роки тому

    leveling as holy is pretty beast too, save alot of mana every 2 minutes with that crit heal :P

  • @hunterosborne2373
    @hunterosborne2373 4 роки тому

    Kargoz, my man, we suspected this was gonna be a scuffed paladin guide, but you clapped it! Clapped this guide's cheeks! You totally max-maxed this twink's gear with fiery Fiery war axe, Fiery Flurry axe and skull flame shield. I wouldn't expect most casuals, raid loggers, noobs, or hardcore players to go full zug-zug as well as you go full zug-zug. Am I using the lingo correctly? Let's do some hugeee death rolling again soon, goldfish!

  • @Whozwhodude
    @Whozwhodude 4 роки тому

    Riskin it for the biscuit!!!love it man

  • @GoBirds93
    @GoBirds93 4 роки тому

    Definitely rollin a pally on Bloodsail buddy!

  • @DefcampMelderonTV
    @DefcampMelderonTV 4 роки тому +6

    Is this a video!!!¿??

  • @jba2048
    @jba2048 4 роки тому +3

    I had that shield. Nice.

  • @olov244
    @olov244 4 роки тому +4

    I want to see some pally mc tanking

  • @davemustang8173
    @davemustang8173 3 роки тому +1

    I'm not gonna kid myself and try to raid as one, BUT
    For Season of Mastery, is it possible to tank dungeons as a paladin?

  • @matthewkeating6970
    @matthewkeating6970 Рік тому

    Great vid

  • @stevenstone307
    @stevenstone307 3 роки тому

    Liked and subbed, this video was great :) I watched a few of your videos today of your Pally leveling and found it amazing!
    I'm a 47 Pally now, straight retribution slowly getting towards Consecration but man I just feel so weak, take like a full minute to kill a mob and if its more than 3 I'm just dead. Might have to switch to this build because prot/holy just feels so much better. I'm a bit concerned about not having great gear because it's my first character and I can't really afford all the consumables and best gear though.
    Do you think it would be worth sticking with Retri to get to 60 fastest? Or can I do this build and quest to 60 faster. thanks bro!

  • @GIRO1989LOL
    @GIRO1989LOL 4 роки тому +2

    FYI: There's a quest in the badlands that gives you a fiery enchant for free. I didn't know and it felt like Christmas when I got it!

  • @remilegendre6971
    @remilegendre6971 4 роки тому +4

    Is ZF tomb farming possible ?

    • @1MoreTurn
      @1MoreTurn 4 роки тому

      Rémi Legendre i did it before i got mc gear. Lasher farms is far superior.

  • @CowGoesMeow
    @CowGoesMeow 4 роки тому

    Can you make a list of items that we should be on the lookout for for our pallys? For those of us that have the gold for our alt. That way we can have the best possible time during the leveling process :D

  • @PlayerSalt
    @PlayerSalt 4 роки тому +2

    I chose a paladin for healing and never really enjoyed or played ret or prot vanilla palladin , i must say if you love healing its such a fun class , best buffs in the game , able to ignore raid mechanics , able to bop people , massive dispel , no hate on priests but pallies are the chad healers of vanilla

    • @fmls8266
      @fmls8266 4 роки тому +1

      I find healing quite boring honestly, I still heal when needed but tanking is much more challenging, and much more fun, both soloing or group. Retri is also much more challenging if you tryhard to do some decent damage, and much more fun in pvp.
      To each his own I guess!

  • @JA-zw9ju
    @JA-zw9ju 4 роки тому

    Hey love the UI! Can you make some setup guide please?

  • @vipershotz1457
    @vipershotz1457 Місяць тому

    would you recommend this for leveling?

  • @LemonGingerHoney
    @LemonGingerHoney 4 роки тому

    Nice guide!
    I wonder about consumables and items you could use for leveling without impacting gold too much.
    Grenades come to my mind, for small damage boost and CC.
    What about crushing blows? Maybe there are some items that would help with that whilst leveling?
    Going for pure plate with Str + Sta could be expensive.

    • @fmls8266
      @fmls8266 4 роки тому

      Cheap potions, a good updated 2 hand weapon, bandages. Double gathering professions. At 41 go for AoE grind spec.
      You are gonna level super smoothly and float in gold. I ended up with way over 1k gold at 60.
      Don't bother too much about buying gear, you can get plenty in dungeons since you can heal, tank or dps.

    • @hunterosborne2373
      @hunterosborne2373 4 роки тому

      The armor potions would be best, 450 armor is pretty good for super cheap, major troll's blood helps and goes for low gold. Also, elixir of agility, greater mana potions and elixir of fortitude. All of the prices are climbing at BWL hype. Of course, you have to have a mithril or thorium shield spike and appropriate enchants before any of these.

  • @undertyped1
    @undertyped1 3 роки тому

    Paladins talents were really dire in vanilla, compare it to the greatly fleshed out and optimized warrior tree, and you can see just how bad it was. There's... redoubt required you to be crit to actually work, and then there's reckoning, same thing there.

  • @eg6728
    @eg6728 4 роки тому +2

    what addon are you using that tracks seals and judgements?

  • @Preacher_.
    @Preacher_. 2 роки тому

    We got a prot pally in my Guild in SoM...
    Dude gets INSTA threat, and can hold like 20fing whelps all at once, meanwhile, warriors can't even keep 6-7 on em.

  • @wuwi5833
    @wuwi5833 4 роки тому +2

    Think I might have to change the alliance Druid project to an alliance pally project 🤔

  • @mrSnotyify
    @mrSnotyify 4 роки тому

    Have u tried the Spelladin spec?
    Def something u should check out if you're interested in maxing the potential of the class

  • @zhascha
    @zhascha 4 роки тому +2

    When i levelled my pala we did cath spam with 5 palas from 30 all the way up to 45 XD

    • @nexya26
      @nexya26 4 роки тому

      No you didnt

    • @zhascha
      @zhascha 4 роки тому

      @@nexya26 yea now that i read it again after 3 months i notice my foolish mistake how could someone possibly mix up scarlet monestary and scarlet monestary cathetral. Me foolish human with many flaws should commit to the art of perfectly using every single word in my 4. language really foolish of me.

    • @nexya26
      @nexya26 4 роки тому +1

      Zhascha there’s also no way you levelled 15 levels with the same 4 people

    • @zhascha
      @zhascha 4 роки тому

      @@nexya26 yesnt it was a week or so and i was in a guild with mostly paladins and about 10 were in my lvl range and we had about the same levelling pace

    • @nexya26
      @nexya26 4 роки тому

      Zhascha haha it’s getting even more ridiculous now, just admit you lied and move on

  • @godwings101
    @godwings101 4 роки тому

    My favorite thing to do is go AoE reflect build and pull a fuck ton of mobs and just rot them down.

  • @dirkn56
    @dirkn56 3 роки тому

    I need to known your pala aoe leveling build i did watch the stream when u ding 60 aoe grind im making a pala now

  • @RaiiroGaming
    @RaiiroGaming 4 роки тому

    I spec Into the Holy / Ret at 31 just like you on my own lol

  • @fmalone03
    @fmalone03 4 роки тому

    Please share your paladin weak auras they look great.

  • @BlueSandwich
    @BlueSandwich 4 роки тому

    Is there a part 2?

  • @justinTime077
    @justinTime077 4 роки тому

    What a chadbro.

  • @aidasmatulaitis5175
    @aidasmatulaitis5175 4 роки тому +1

    Why do you in the home with hat ?

  • @robertp457
    @robertp457 4 роки тому

    Great video as always. I have to disagree with your claim of Redoubt being a great talent. It is one of the worst designed talents in the game. No tanking talent should need the tank to get crit to work. Also Reckoning is the worst. It sounds good, but it doesn’t work the way it should and again you need to be crit for it to function which is something you want to avoid.

  • @mickmackam2559
    @mickmackam2559 9 місяців тому

    hey do you use RestedXP ?

  • @djhanger3035
    @djhanger3035 3 місяці тому

    What weapon enchant? Sp or lifesteal

  • @Coolbreeze8893
    @Coolbreeze8893 4 роки тому

    So what sit macro do you all use for reckoning. The one i use is super wonky. And i find i do better when i use my sit key and stand up.

  • @marct138
    @marct138 4 роки тому

    Id like to see that solofarm dme. How do you kill Zevrim?

  • @NVMiele78
    @NVMiele78 4 роки тому

    Any chance you'll make a ppt on this? Hard to follow order of ops without pausing a million times and going back.

  • @greed1sgood130
    @greed1sgood130 3 роки тому

    hey, i didnt really get which talents to pick from lvl 10 if i wanna tank dungeons. can anyone give an advice which talents to pick?

  • @anthonygiammetta7752
    @anthonygiammetta7752 4 роки тому

    So where is the final spec, your dwarf is a 60 now whats the spec that you are recommending?

  • @MellonVegan
    @MellonVegan 4 роки тому +1

    Did he just say optionality? :D

  • @boricns
    @boricns 4 роки тому

    how does he tracks he's seals like that? whats the addon name?

  • @bradleyharman2363
    @bradleyharman2363 4 роки тому

    Pre-BIS and BIS please

  • @henkarars
    @henkarars 4 роки тому

    is precision really necessary if u play human pala? mean, you have 5% specialization already

  • @amurjoeray2790
    @amurjoeray2790 4 роки тому +1

    Dwarf paladins ❤️❤️❤️

  • @lufasumafalu5069
    @lufasumafalu5069 2 роки тому +1

    what private server is this ?

  • @know_Name
    @know_Name 4 роки тому +1

    sick guide and i dont even play paladin