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  • @noinoeso
    @noinoeso 3 роки тому +28

    For EM4 Phase 3, increase your screen brightness in Settings to the max! It helps a lot

  • @Doncroft1
    @Doncroft1 2 роки тому +3

    I beat EM Hades immediately after watching your guide. It was only my second attempt too. You made all the difference. Thank you.

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  2 роки тому +1

      That's great! Congratulations! That is a tough fight for sure

  • @talleywa5772
    @talleywa5772 3 роки тому +29

    EM4: The single most important piece of advice is to stay calm. It's an intimidating fight for sure, but Hades still telegraphs his attacks the same way as his base fight.
    The second most important tip is to never run Heightened Security unless you plan on getting Sure Footing to counter it. Those vases deal something to the tune of 150 damage under that pact which will always get you during the last part of phase 3. Pick up one rank of damage control instead.
    Hades will summon two mini bosses throughout phase one. Here's what I do depending on the boss.
    Giant gorgon: Priority. Focus her down, the projectiles are out of sync with the flow of the fight and tracking them is like playing chess with one hand and checkers with the other.
    Head crusher stone thingy: ignore, take Hades down. Charge your god gauge on it while Hades is invisible.
    Wretched sneak: ignore. Focus while Hades is invisible.
    Giant doomstone: priority. Those lasers and reflector skulls limit your mobility and that is unacceptable in this fight. I'd even blow a full greater call on it. Particularly good with Dio's call with bad influence for some dummy thicc damage.
    Butterfly ball: if I have an omnipresent revenge boon, ignore it until Hades vanishes then focus. If no revenge noon, priority. Those butterflies can melt health faster than expected.
    If I'm confident in my damage output when he summons the second batch, I'll ignore them entirely and finish Hades. As they all get destroyed when phase 1 ends.
    The most impactful change is that second spin. Keep in mind he telegraphs both spins with a wind up animation, a small circle outline flash, and a few frames of movement *towards you* and I stress that because between the circle flash and the movement frames is when you need to dash away. Because he always moves towards you and is locked in the direction and animation. So take your full dash count to the left or right. Then wait for the exact same telegraphs and then full dash up or down. You can dash in the same direction twice but I wouldn't recommend it. It's easier to misjudge distance, and you're more likely to put yourself in a bad position with terrain.
    When he does his 3 hit combo, he will generally spin for the third hit if you are base to base with him. If you dash far away by his second swipe, he will more than likely throw his spear. The spear throw is mechanically similar to the Aspect of Achilles as Hades will always travel in a straight line to the spear. Take advantage of knowing where he will be and lead your attacks. Even just reorienting yourself can be crucial, especially in phase 3 where losing sight of Hades could mean face tanking a few frames of laser or letting him heal for free.
    If you deflect the spear, he will always follow it. Regrettably, you cannot deflect Hades himself. Also, deflecting the spear will cause Hades to rush all the way to the other side of the arena, continuing even after retrieving it. This can be helpful if he is in front of a wall, as you will have several frames of him dashing and retrieving Gigaros in which to deal damage.
    Try and keep the fight around the pillars. Hades needs space to summon vases or shoot his laser, and if his model can't detect sufficient space it will begin to move back and forth until it finds room. This let's you get in some punishment and tells you he's about to start healing, summon vases, or shoot his laser, and you can position yourself accordingly.
    Just like with EM3 get a call that makes you invulnerable. For this fight I prefer Athena, Ares, Poseidon. Only because Athena's can allow you to more dynamically apply damage during his heal taking full effect of backstab, privileged status, and boiling blood. But Ares is still solid especially if you happen to be building around it.
    During phase 3 you may lose sight of Hades, especially after he goes invisible. He usually follows that up with an omnilaser, vase summon, or starting to heal. If you don't see him reappear, don't be afraid to hug a pillar for a second or two and confirm he isn't charging his lazar. If you have an ability which seeks such as Artemis cast, support fire, or the hammer upgrade for the Rail which makes attacks track foes, throw a few charges out and follow. Just be mindful of the dreaded orange line signaling a laser.

  • @talleywa5772
    @talleywa5772 3 роки тому +38

    EM3: The most important strategy I can offer for the Elysium EM fight is *HAVE A CALL THAT MAKES YOU INVULNERABLE* regardless of what your build is up to that point. Ares, Athena, Poseidon In personal order of preference (fun fact this also applies to EM Hades and his lasers/healing). The Bull beyblade and Theseus using that initial summon both present excellent opportunities for a greater call to be used and absolutely demolish them with impunity. The beyblade moves slowly and predictably towards you and Theseus just stands there like a dolt. I try to save the greater call for Theseus since it can often be enough to kill him.
    Focus Asterius first. He is more demanding of your action economy and can get you out of position far easier than Theseus. His damage is overall more forgiving since those bombs can rip 50hp off.
    The best tip for Asterius is to just stay calm and remember he is only a buffed version of his old move set for 90% of the fight. Don't overdo it with your dashes, attack him during his recovery animations, and take full advantage of the fact that you can pass through terrain with your dash. When he starts his beyblade attack, you can safely dash into the second or third bomb reticle and follow the chariot. Also, if you have multiple dashes or some kind of equivalent movement mechanic from the mirror, Hermes, aspect of Gilgamesh, aspect of Achilles, or any shield aspect as long as you don't have the hammer upgrade which turns your bull rush into a shot, you can charge directly through The Bull beyblade and buy yourself a considerable amount of time and distance to punish his approach and cool down animation.
    Theseus is definitely a different beast. One general tip is that even though all of those bomb reticles can be intimidating, only one of them is actually dangerous at a time. Don't be afraid to move through them for a dash reset or get a few cheeky shots in.
    I've noticed Theseus only has three attack patterns.
    1: he moves moderately fast around the outer perimeter of the arena lobbing bombs that detonate behind him. These are always linear in the same pattern directly behind him as he circles between 1-2 times. Remember, only the farthest circle is actively dangerous so don't be afraid to jump into the second or third to get your dash reset if that's your only option. This is also why you should focus Asterius first, as this pattern is the second safest opportunity to pump out damage since you can actually calculate your attacks and lead them appropriately. Of course the most ideal is when he stops to showboat.
    2: travel slowly across the center of the arena lobbing bombs generally in a line around him/near you. These tend to be far less predictable so you're better off avoiding the center of the ring entirely. But if you have a keen eye, and aren't being chased by an armored beyblade, you can really take advantage of his slow speed and punish him. If the bull is out of the picture then the arena is your oyster. He moves slowly enough that even the Rail special can hit without much effort.
    3: charge like a madlad through the center firing his cannons in a cone in front of him. If you have anything that deflects, this is your time to shine. Otherwise just get out of the way and punish Asterius.
    When the chariot is destroyed, as soon as you see the rings appear for his summon, pop that greater call. Ares' can often shred the rest of his HP. Also if you find yourself in a pinch (like when he summons fucking Demeter) using your companion summon will make all current circles disappear. It's not much, but it can buy you enough time for a dash reset or cast.

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому +4

      Interesting! Thanks for the tips!

  • @jamesbrincefield9879
    @jamesbrincefield9879 3 роки тому +14

    Alecto’s Blade Rifts are brutal depending on what Pact stuff you have selected. The Fury fights are basically muscle memory to me at this point so I’m only ever halfway paying attention to them and I’ve almost had runs end because of her. I’d take Tisiphone or Meg over her any day.

  • @duyle712
    @duyle712 3 роки тому +4

    Super helpful and very well done. Nice to see some of the moves slowed down. Details are hard to notice when you're facing the bosses in real time. Thank you!

  • @bubbles9649
    @bubbles9649 3 роки тому +2

    You are seriously the best content producer for Hades! Keep it up man!

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому

      Very kind of you to say!

    • @bubbles9649
      @bubbles9649 3 роки тому

      Yeah well you helped me beat EM4 Redacted. THANK YOU SO MUCH

  • @irinaandreev6950
    @irinaandreev6950 2 роки тому +13

    I actually find EM3 Theseus way easier (Asterius with his extra spin move set and armour is still a pain though) - he's much easier to deal damage to in the first half as he's not protected by a shield and you can just follow the carriage once Asterius is down. I generally take Asterius down first by using the same strategy as the non-EM fight and the only extra thing to worry about is the bombs, I find his spear throw much more annoying.

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  2 роки тому +3

      I can see that! I felt that way for a while too. It's the combination of the chariot and Asterius with his giant spin move that really can be tough to avoid

  • @TheRPGPastor
    @TheRPGPastor 3 роки тому +5

    Fantastic content, thank you so much!
    I'm comfortably in what I would consider the "Mid game". About to reach my 100th run, and I've got about 25 clears under my belt. About to pull the trigger on EM4 and this was very, very helpful!! Great as always

  • @jackbond4358
    @jackbond4358 3 роки тому +33

    I usually summon meg to finish off em Theseus because dealing with the gods and the shield is a lot, is that optimal? Additionally I find that it's safe to "chase" the chariot around the arena when he's shooting off bombs, which allows you to keep damage up and the bombs won't ever hit you. Also Aphrodite call makes them fight each other, which is just funny.

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому +7

      Yes! The chase method is a great one! You just gotta be careful you don't accidentally dash ahead of him or get too far behind! 💥

    • @jackiecozzie4803
      @jackiecozzie4803 3 роки тому +3

      I take hunters mark very often, and I think that carries me through that fight usually

  • @emaitchess3821
    @emaitchess3821 3 роки тому +1

    Paul you're beautiful for putting a spoiler warning there.
    I was spoiled for all of the fights so I appreciate you taking the time to put a warning, thanks

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому +1

      You are welcome! Sorry you had things spoiled!

  • @mattemonx4315
    @mattemonx4315 3 роки тому +2

    Been waiting for this! Must have taken forever to find so that content. Definitely some great tips in there. Maybe I’ll finally try EM4.

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому +2

      Good luck sir! And thanks for the kind words!

  • @jblev736
    @jblev736 3 роки тому +2

    12:47 btw, i've only heard dumpster fire used with a negative connotation that has blame attached (ex: if a product launch is a dumpster fire, it usually means that the company screwed up), but I feel like this fight is well done by Supergiant games. It's challenging as hell, but definitely doesn't feel like a badly designed rng clown fiesta or anything like that
    Note: There may be there are other connotations, i'm not sure

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому +3

      I just meant REALLY difficult and sometimes overwhelming. I think it's a really cool boss fight, as I mentioned at the start of the video! 😊

  • @a7xguitar666
    @a7xguitar666 3 роки тому

    Great vid. Just picked up hades 2 weeks ago and finally got to trying em4 and i managed to beat hades. these em boss fights are super refreshing and extremely fun. Idk if id do em4 all the time, but theyre a great tool if you want to spice up your game

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому

      For sure! It's tough and definitely throws a wild card into your plans!

  • @Lacey305
    @Lacey305 2 роки тому +2

    So I was watching Phineas and Ferb and the medieval episode was on and I found th perfect way to describe the hades fight. "WAIT NO I WAS WRONG HES UP AGAINNNN!!!!!"

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  2 роки тому

      LOL for sure! 🤣

    • @Lacey305
      @Lacey305 2 роки тому

      @@JawlessPaul didn't expect you to highlight, heart, and reply!

  • @jblev736
    @jblev736 3 роки тому

    Very helpful breakdown, especially em4. I'm also going to try out the approach of going after theseus first. Asterius' giant spin is always tough for me to deal with (even more so if I took serrated point)

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому

      Yeah, serrated point is such amazing damage but SUPER dangerous!

  • @PoseidonSon2002
    @PoseidonSon2002 7 місяців тому +1

    EM1: Okay, so they have like two more attacks, this isn’t that bad
    EM2: Huh, this is actually easier in some way, maybe EM3 won’t be that bad
    EM3: IS THAT A MINIGUN?!?!
    EM4: Third phase what now?

  • @memeries2743
    @memeries2743 2 роки тому +1

    the good upside to EM4: the soundtrack absolutely slaps

  • @renanalves3955
    @renanalves3955 7 місяців тому

    This was really helpful!

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  6 місяців тому

      I'm glad! Those EM fights are tough!

  • @ledelt9309
    @ledelt9309 3 роки тому

    I realy enjoy your content and I would appreciate if you make more gameplay videos like high heat challanges they are just fun to watch.

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому

      For sure! I have a bunch of high heat videos that I've put out over the last two years or so. If you search my channel for 32 heat or 40 heat you will find some nice high heat gameplay :)

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms 3 роки тому +1

    3 L’s in a row to Hade’s final, finally looking it up for help.

  • @garitobee7541
    @garitobee7541 Рік тому

    EM3 Theseus seems to have the same moveset as the last boss of Brayflox’s Longstop (Hard) from FFXIV.

  • @ludi1787
    @ludi1787 Рік тому +2

    I'll be honest with u , I actually find Tisiphone the easiest out of the three , cuz I'm not good at handling dash since I always go out of control when dashing

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  Рік тому

      I see! I suppose it's easiest of the three if you are trying to dash less 😂

  • @pregnantpigeon
    @pregnantpigeon 11 місяців тому +1

    I just wanted to share this, and this is the only appropriate video to do so.
    On a run 78 my dumbass head realized that apparently giving mobs +20% movement and attack speed also translates to bosses. Well its not that surprising cos ive used it ever since ive gained access to HEAT..
    And boy oh boy hades is tuf af with 20% buff.
    With one of the most op builds ive managed phase 3 only once . Only to realize that in a run with a shitty 1lvl adamant rail (one shot aspect) with a crappy build in that run. I managed to get to phase 3 easily. Even tho my dmg output was hilariously bad...
    I cannot stress enough how easy it is to dodge every single one of his attacks after trying to do so with 20% buff....
    So the morale of the story ... take your time

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, speeding enemies up is VERY dangerous. Though it does make the game feel like it's in slow motion when you take it off 😂

    • @pregnantpigeon
      @pregnantpigeon 11 місяців тому

      @JawlessPaul yeap . I've beaten hades with em4 after this comment 1st try with a chaos shield . Not gonna say that he's easy. But definitely shower XD.

  • @johnjoyce4019
    @johnjoyce4019 2 роки тому

    great video, thanks for the tips

  • @sssveden
    @sssveden Рік тому

    The hardest for me is the 3rd phase of Hades, the screen is pretty dark and he spawns a LOT of those vases and spams lasers. It's difficult to keep him in your sight

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  Рік тому

      Agreed. Especially when he throws his spear from off-screen

  • @dampstone7679
    @dampstone7679 3 роки тому +4

    *laughs in Deus Ex Machina*

  • @sapphicseas0451
    @sapphicseas0451 2 роки тому

    Shield with Zeus aspect makes EM3 a cakewalk

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  2 роки тому +1

      I have found people either love or hate the Zeus shield aspect. It sounds like you can be pretty effective with it.

  • @chart_9196
    @chart_9196 2 роки тому

    Aphrodite call on the bull works wonders

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  2 роки тому

      True! Stops the charge which is very useful!

  • @mfschris6174
    @mfschris6174 Рік тому

    Any urn near the pillar, destroy it, or else it will explore when u hiding behind the pillar duing Hades laser move

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  Рік тому

      Good call! Just don't get hit when you destroy it 😅

  • @pasteghost428
    @pasteghost428 3 роки тому

    Great song selections. During the furies section, Paul goes silent to let the zag/tisiphone voices play and it sounds like samples that belong on the track. I feel like games could use more Trap music...just sayin

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому

      Haha, yeah! I liked it too! UA-cam has a lot of free music available for use in videos! I'll put a track list in the description

  • @jasonrakoci
    @jasonrakoci 3 роки тому

    What weapon and God works best against max extreme measures Hades?

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому

      Ooof... tough to say, depends on your play style. Deflect is really nice since it negates the damage and turns it against him. As for weapons, there are so many viable options!

    • @jasonrakoci
      @jasonrakoci 3 роки тому

      @@JawlessPaul
      Ya I figured you were gonna say that...lol...I know..I just was wondering what your favorite for that situation is

    • @jasonrakoci
      @jasonrakoci 3 роки тому

      Btw I beat deaths door the other day...great game...had a lot of fun

    • @jprunsfunny
      @jprunsfunny 3 роки тому

      I think it's a combination of a build that works best for your play-style, getting a few high-damage boons early so you don't lose DD's to furies or other boss fights... and then getting a couple chaos boons or duo boons to put it over the top... Hard to say too much more but the better you are set up to clear 3-4 satyr pits, the better your health will be in the end too... Extra dashes from Hermes are clutch as well, 'cause Dad gets across the room fast.

    • @jprunsfunny
      @jprunsfunny 3 роки тому

      Basically, if you haven't maxed out the bottom of the mirror, this fight is going to be very hard, if not unwinnable.

  • @cutepanda7777
    @cutepanda7777 3 роки тому +1

    too many notification reminders but good video

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому

      Fair point! 😂 Glad you liked the video anyway 👍

  • @Legion1620
    @Legion1620 3 роки тому

    I know you didn't want to talk up certain boons, but where EM4 REDACTED is doing so much damage and so often do the percentage damage reduction boons make a noticeable difference?

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  3 роки тому

      The various mitigation options in the game are pretty great! I would say deflect is the best, followed by dodge, followed by % reductions. Athena dash, attack, call, special, revenge etc are all great and will reduce the damage you take immensely.

  • @Chewij
    @Chewij Рік тому

    THe furies fight got patched and changed im pretty sure

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  Рік тому

      Which part?

    • @Chewij
      @Chewij Рік тому

      @@JawlessPaul The Alecto rage bar

  • @kinkycaptioncrafter9940
    @kinkycaptioncrafter9940 2 роки тому

    Electo is the easiest for me for some reason. She’s the sister I’ve died the least to. Maybe I just keep getting good runs because I suck

    • @JawlessPaul
      @JawlessPaul  2 роки тому

      That's great! I find her moves so annoying and she is just so stinking fast in her last phase

  • @jblev736
    @jblev736 3 роки тому

    PogChamp

  • @Mr.Beefy69
    @Mr.Beefy69 3 роки тому

    Wow and here i was thinking man all I got do is kill his second phase and I beat the game. These developers are really some cancores whores 😤 BTW thanks for the video