Help pls guys what does the 3 sculptures make at 1:17 at the left side how are they Called i dont unlocked it yet and would want to watch a video to how get them and what they make
The devs knew how important the Supportive Shade was, the timer stops right after you defeat a boss---and doesn't restart until the next room with enemies in it. It took me a while to realize I didn't have to pause the game to think about keepsake swapping/wells/checking for money pots
I started with the trap damage and kept getting cucked on hades by the green jars as my first heat punishment yikes. Took me a while to figure out why it was one shotting me lmao
After watching you play, I gave a Chiron build a shot for my first attempt at 16 heat (previous high was 9), and I absolutely obliterated the run. Full death defiance at the end. Gonna give 32 heat a shot tonight. Thanks for the tips!
I think my most ran keepsake by far is Lambent Plume. +1.2% dodge and movement speed for every fast room clear is like a blessing by the time I reach the final boss, as I usually have over 25% dodge chance. This is made even more useful when combined with Greater Evasion, and even more so with Gloves. Of course one could say I just love RNG dictating whether I get hit or not.
It would be cool but to use it properly you have to equip it from start to the end so you can't manipulate your build with gods keepsake and this is very bad.
I tried that strategy for a while but I made the mistake of going all in on evasion, not realising that it's diminishing returns, the more evasion-type boons you have. I got as far as 30% from the plume, 25 from Hermes and 15 from the gloves but Hades still hit me in all the crucial moments. If we're going for long-term boni, Thanatos' keepsake is a much safer bet, I think. Even 20% of bonus damage is pretty rad and still very doable with a ranged build.
I'm still trying out lower Heat levels, but I feel like EM1 is a good choice for 1 Heat. It only affects one fight, and it's not that much harder than normal. Damage Control is also pretty trivial for builds with fast attacks. For 2 Heat, I found Benefits Package easier than Middle Management. Even if BP affects many more encounters, I don't feel like they're much more difficult, while MM can easily cost you a Death Defiance. (Although you can argue it's best to learn these fight faster.) For 3 Heat, I didn't find Forced Overtime 1 that tough, but I imagine combining that with Jury Summons and Hard Labor can be real scary.
Yeah, I've been keeping Tight Deadline lv2 and EM3 pretty much on all the time ever since I've seen how simple they were. Benefits Package lv1 and Middle Management as well
I constantly kept tight deadline 2 and extrme measures 3 on when I was trying to learn the game. Was super helpful and now I can do 32 semi-consistently with my better aspects, was definitely the move.
You can add middle management to that and you're good all the way up to 10/11. Hard labour 1 rank and 1 benefits package up to about 14/15. From 16 onwards I think it starts getting pretty dang hard without some good luck.
I have just been recently doing Pact of Punishment, and I, at least so far, only go up to EM2. I feel like the Furies and the Bone Hydra don't get that much stronger, but Theseus on a chariot is harder to handle for me
I find that Forced Overtime is by far the most difficult of the optional pacts. My first attempts at 32 heat I had it on, and it's so much worse than any of the others, particularly in Elysium. Some chambers with Benefits Package+Jury Summons become much more difficult with that extra speed, and the minotaur is a lot harder if you don't have 3+ dashes. Take Hard Labor over it any day. Sure if you get hit with maxed Hard it hurts more, but you will get hit way more often when enemies are faster.
I've gotten 32 on Demeter Fists, Nemesis Sword, Arthur and Zagreus Spear (Painful run, would not recommend). A pretty good setup for melee if you can play fast is Hermes trinket and Ruthless Reflex on max tight deadline. Don't take EM 4, Calisthenics or Jury Summons. Damage Control is whack too. You might get cheesed by Styx on the time limit but it's worth the risk to be a nonstop offensive beast with (up to) 100% dodge chance, provided you get the rare or epic Hermes dodge boon and can dash with precision. Seeing a lot of ranged weapon comments so figured I'd drop some melee tips
best heat guide i’ve seen. haven’t been focusing on higher heat since i’m mostly trying to finish minor prophecies first but only prophecy left is Chaos Defiance (sigh, rng) so i’m ready to start pushing. solid explanations and alts make this guide very valuable for intermediate ppl like myself. ty
I've been trying to clear 32 Heat with every aspect and this echoes my thoughts pretty closely. I have found the most success with max Tight Deadline, EM3, and no Jury Summons, Calisthenics, Approval or Routine Inspection- very close to what you show at 14:14 in the video. I do use Heightened Security as I'm pretty good at avoiding traps, and I'll switch between 2 Damage Control or an extra point in Hard Labor and Lasting Consequences based on what weapon I'm using. I find aspects where you can use that 2 DC a lot easier.
I started doing the pact runs recently and this guide is very helpful! I'm still in the first heat levels, but this is going to help me a lot in avoiding pacts that are going to make the game too hard.
Just beat 32 heat for the first time today! I used chaos shield with Dio special, Ares attack, and curse of nausea. This guide really helped and I wanted to pop in and say thanks :)
Love these guides! I personally hate Convenience Fee, would honestly rather get a little better at the game and add that heat somewhere else. Hestia being a good one is surprising to me, gonna have to try that out. I've only managed 32 with Chiron and Eris so far and thought both of them worked pretty great. Eris makes short work of every room and it's so easy to get the build going. Rama and Hera seem very doable too although I didn't have much luck there yet. And I'm never completing 32 with Sword/Spear/Fists, that's just a whole another level of difficulty.
The damage from the hestia reload does A LOT of damage. It just feels so different from a lot of the way you play with the other aspects so it takes some getting used to. An epic attack boon that adds %dmg increase (artemis is the best, imo,) and a chaos attack boon make it smooth sailing. You'll be hitting like a truck after your reloads. edit: should add that leveling it up to max is a must since it increases the base damage, making the %attack bonuses scale better
Cleared 32 heat fists with Lambent Plume Zag fist. Had Greater Dodge and Second Wind. EM4 was close, but cleared it nevertheless when I was dodging most of the stuff thrown at me.
Great guide, Haelian! This is super helpful to my current quest to do 32 heat on every aspect (I struggle the most with sword and spear, if you have any pointers on that). And coincidentally, your recommended 32 heat builds are the builds I recommended to beginners in a recent video of mine, lol.
For 32 Heat I picked all the packs that didn't make the average enemy harder to kill. I got the 15% dodge fists, got the golden plume that increases dodge if you finish encounters fast, and then just punched everyone blindly with like 60% dodge by the end and beat 32 heat on my first try, albeit barley. My timer ran out during Hades and I thought I was just going to instantly die but it's just damage over time.
Got the game a weak ago and finished my 1st 16h run yesterday. Now working to get the last prize, thanks for your input as in a lot of videos, for inspiration of builds and helping me understand what i need to go for.
personally i find i take a lot of damage in individual rooms than in boss fights, so i usually go for middle management & extreme measures. (but yeah mega gorgonxskullcrusher is still the worst) Damage Control is great if using high attack rate like fists/rail but probably don't use it with things like hestia or hera bow ayye! this video looks real good btw, the cuts of zag walking through the rooms to show where to find the mirror and punishment pacts and wells are very well placed :D
Very comprehensive guide; thanks for putting it together! I'm still trying to work up the gumption to tackle EM3, though. I also feel even better now about my decision to prioritize maxing out Hestia and Chiron; love those weapons. Chaos Shield is next!
EM3 is when shit starts to get real. I recommend seeking out Asterius as the mini-boss before this, just to get used to his new moves and to take off a chunk of his health as usual. There's even special dialogue for when he and his butt-buddy get tricked out.
@@AndrewBlechinger I'm still working my way to 16 heat (did 10 max) and honestly, after how much trouble I had with the base boss fight, I expected more from EM3. I had no idea what it was going to be when I did it, but I beat it first try anyway. You can pretty much ignore Theseus for the first half of the fight and just fight Asterius until he dies, and then it becomes super easy. I would even go as far to say that EM2 Hydra is harder to deal with than Elysium EM3. EM4 very much fucked me over though. I agree on seeking out Asterius first, since he's the bigger problem of the two.
Wonderful video, thanks for this. I literally started trying for the 32 heat yesterday so this is perfect timing. I am an unfortunately extremely slow player (I have 40 clears and now average 25-30 minutes a clear for
I'm with you! I recognize that the smart thing for me to do is to get faster, but I just don't have as much fun with the game when I'm playing up against that deadline.
Heightened security is awful and only counts as one heat. many great runs have been destroyed from the spike cogs in styx and the beam things. They hit for like 100+!. youd think to yourself, how hard can it be, just avoid the traps. That is until you realize just how often you do get hit by traps during runs.
I did my first 8 heat run with just tight deadline 2 and extreme measures 2, as neither really make the run harder. Then i added benefits package to make it the full 8. I got it first try with no struggle what so ever. From my experience tight deadline 2 and extreme measures 2 are just free +6 heat as long as you remember to pause when not actively playing. For my first 16 heat run I did it straight after my first 8 heat run, also with no real difficulties, I just had to beat the extreme measures 4 for the achievement and decided to add forced overtime on top of it to make it the 16 required for the skelly statue. Finished it in just under 15 minutes so with no time pressure, also had all 3 death defiances at the end, haven't tried extreme measures 4 since, but seems very free considering the substantial amount of heat it gives.
This guide really helped me out to finally beat 32 heat. I breezed through heat 31 when the stars aligned and I got a run with +253% special damage from chaos, lvl 5 deadly flourish and triple bomb but then I hit a brick wall on 32 when I couldn't get that same luck again.
for your first 12 heat you can just run extreme measures 4 and middle management. For those 12 runs with each weapon you only have to worry about the tougher bosses and don't have to fuss with turning different pacts on and off for each level of heat. With 72 titan blood and ambrosia you can max out your companion keepsakes and upgrade a few choice aspects to max. Furies on extreme measures has a lot of variance as you can get any one of the three sisters and sometimes you only get two sisters instead of three. Tisiphone is generally the hardest because she makes the room smaller which is really bad for a lot of aspects. I find alecto easier because it's easy to just doge around her and bait her to walk into the traps. Lernie is pretty much the same except now there is lava in the middle of the room and the arena is smaller overall. I find extreme measure lernie easier as extreme measures lernie is always the same which makes him easy to plan for while base lernie has a bunch of variants which makes planning for the fight a lot harder. I find extreme measures Theseus and Asterius easier because Theseus in his chariot can't block, most of his attacks don't target zag, and he enters phase 2 at lower health. Asterius' big spin is easy to avoid and leaves him open to long range attacks. Base Theseus is super annoying as he's constantly blocking and throwing his spear at Zag while Asterius chases Zag around the arena. Extreme measures (redacted) is the only fight that is significantly harder. (Redacted) summons mini bosses, gets a summon, and during the extra third stage the edge of the screen gets darkened making it harder to see attacks coming from off screen. Forced overtime is absolutely brutal. Movement speed modifiers in hades are extremely noticeable and have a huge effect. Even just 10% form a common level hermes boon is really noticeable. Hard labor can be mitigated with boons that slow/stun/weaken enemies. It's much easier to just dash away from a slow strong hit then from multiple Heightened security is basically a free level of heat because traps are easy to avoid. Damage control will either have no impact or it will make your build unplayable. Trouble is that sometimes you turn on damage control and all you find are hammers and boons for one shot/first strike builds. benefits package 1 is fine but with rank 2 you can get a lot of perk combinations that are really difficult to deal with. I rather run calisthenics program and jury summons then tight deadline. Underworld customs and approval process can be circumvented a bit by using authority to reroll rooms like darkness and gems into extra boons. If running convince fee then you can also try to reroll money. you can also jump inside a caos gate to get a different set of rooms. Routine inspection basically makes your run a fresh file run except you get to keep your keepsakes and weapons. If you can clear a fresh file run with no mirror upgrades then just turn on routine inspection and keep it maxed out until you've finished your runs with each weapon and then slowly add jurry summons, hard labor, and calisthenics program
this came just in time for me, been running 32 heat all day today with a merciful end build losing to hades most times, or flame wheels. gonna get rid of the 4th extreme measures didnt know about the health thing, thought it was just bigger adds spawned and the heal thing
"You wont beat 32 heat on your first try" The luckiest Eris Rail run in existence would like to say hi. I got Sea Storm in asphodel and then posieden gave me a replacement attack. Rocket bomb + cluster bomb with aphro special. Divine dash and athena call and billowing.
Got mine the first too in aegis zag. Love and war combo. Ares for spec and aphro for attack and full critical on side boons. Double attack and blast bull rush. Drained hades in 2 minutes.
To practice each weapon now I often just take extreme measure 4 on all weapons. Hades is fine if you don't take forced overtime lv2 and damage 100%. Forced Overtime really makes Hades super scary, and bigger hit is very painful too.
Extreme measures 4 and middle management is an easy way to get your first 12 heat on each weapon as you just have to learn the new boss fights. Lernie is easier on extreme measures as his fight is always the same where as base lernie has a bunch of variants. Extreme measures thesues is easier because he can't block in his chariot, he doesn't target zag directly, and he enters phase 2 at lower health. Asterius is also easier as you can just shoot him with long range attacks while he does his spin move.
Gonna try again tomorrow... I tried going for 32 heat and managed to get to Hades twice with my Chiron setup: 1. Artemis Attack 2. Demeter Special 3. Dionysus Cast 4. Athena Dash 5. Whatever call I can fit. I had two ranks in Forced Overtime and EM4. What killed me in the end wwwwas the 100 damage vases during the Hades fight :(
Once I finally beat Lord Hades for the first time(Just bought the game a few days ago), I tried out the 1 heat run. I went with what got me my first run completion, the bow. Max Zag Aspect(Died to Hades alot previously so I had some Titan Blood to spend) with Jury Summons as my 1 Heat. Beat it and then BARELY completed the very next run using Max Zag Aspect Twin Fists.
Well you were right I didn't clear 32 Heat on my first try. I managed it on my second after coming here and looking at your recommended pact set up. I managed it Eris Rail with an epic Zeus boon on the attack. My first attempt had EM 4 on and I died to Hades in the final phase, but I had breezed my way through the rest without things like damage control and lasting consequences on. The winning run felt much more dangerous and out of my control than the first did. I think the real difference maker was that I lucked out and saw Patty to refill all 3 DD's I had used up to that point. And the final fight was really easy as well without EM4.
I think for most normal people including myself tight deadline is unuasable it’s important in my opinion to give yourself as much time as possible other than that a lot of grate tips love the content keep it up
I beat 32 heat on my first try with a crazy aspect of Beowulf build, I had hard labor 1, em4, bp2, mm, customs, overtime 2, and TD3. Beowulf is super strong with mirage shot, since mirage shot is bugged on flare casts and just fires double casts without the damage penalty. Highly recommend. I used flood flare, mirage shot, fully loaded, a few more powerful boons too like some chaos ones. And try to pom flood flare up to level 5 or 6
"Git gud with no annoyances" 32 heat: full hard labor, extreme measures, forced overtime, heightened security and benefits package. + 2 points into tight deadline and middle management. And then just break it with base 50% dodge from zag fists + lambent plume, which can go up to 100% total with greater dodge and second wind. Or just some well placed "+50% dodge" dashes, but I couldn't pull it off consistently enough. Still took me a dozen tries or so, but got to Hades fairly consistently.
Excellent video Haelian! When I started climbing on the heat ladder I much preferred EM 3 and tight deadline 2 or 3 even, those 2 combined are a bunch of heat and they don't add difficulty to the whole run, only to the boss fights (and not that much once you get used to them), EM 4 is still very scary though, I only had it on when I was attempting 32 heat. Also, tight deadline helps with building up speedrun practice :D
Nice! I recommend: Aspect of achilles with an cast build Blade rift cast (ares), take duo boon artemis (hunting blades). Artemis attack (because of the attack buff) and zeus on special. Trust me ... oh man... Damage overkill
aspect of rama with dionysus on special and artemis on attack was great. tried three runs trying to do a zeus/Poseidon build, and on my fourth after switching had honestly a really easy time with this build. rama with dionysus on special does an insane amount of damage
I started with Damage Control 1, did a few runs with that, then jumped straight up to EM3. Right now I'm doing just EM4 consistently but none of my weapons have enough clears to run me out of bounties at that stage so I'm pretty content.
Finally playing this game and finding this channel has been great. Ive just barely got into heat but as I understand it you get bounties up to 20 heat, would you recommend simply jumping to 32 heat straight from 20, or even lower once I have a maxed weapon aspect from those you listed? Theres no reason to do heat 21-31 right? Considering I escaped on my 58th attempt its going to take me weeks to build up that high anyway lol.
I don't know why I'm watching this if I already done 32 a few times, but I think the noob way is avoiding the timer and Extreme Measures 4. Even when 7 minutes is almost like "no timer at all", if you are inexperienced you may have a bad build and die because of the low damage. Also, you may commit more mistakes trying to be quick... or be to careless and die on Elyssium because it's longer.
the very first pact i consistently used was extreme measures. my thinking was that the only thing that gets harder (for the first level) is the meg fight, which isnt that bad and is a relatively small portion of the entire run, and i knew id have to learn the new fight and patterns eventually anyway. it's an interesting choose but I've always found crowded rooms to be much more dangerous than bosses, bc bosses generally have learnable and more consistently dodgeable attacks.
EM3 was an easy choice for me, mainly because it keeps most of the game unchanged while only changing the boss fights. The minotaur was hard to deal with though. Damage Control also was a no brainer, until I went for hard-hitting builds instead of fast-hitting builds.
Funnily enough, Heightened Security is the first very Heat I chose - It's very punishing in the final trap rooms and with Hades, but any long distance weapons with Hades can get rid of those vases outright. Otherwise I don't notice it at all.
You wanna know the fun thing? I actually managed to beat 32 heat on my first try and without losing any defiance. I used Chiron's aspect but also made sure to deactivate the tight deadline condition (I don't find myself comfortable with timers, I wanna play at my own pace)
Still trying myself, but the closest I've gotten has been Zagreus fists, both dash-strike hammer upgrades, Athena attack, Artemis dash and the Athena/Artemis duo boon... I just really shouldn't have taken Extreme Measures 4.... That's what did me in
For whatever reason forced overtime levels one and two was my main method of getting to 8 heat on all my weapons and my goodness, swapping it off to farm some darkness fucked up my whole timing
Wait, calisthenics increases boss hp, and not just standard mobs? I'd been shoving it in because it felt reasonable but that's good to keep in mind for future tries
One of the best tips to beat 32 heat for beginners is to use stubborn defiance. Then use lucky tooth when entering Styx so you effectively still get 2 “death” defiances against Hades.
@@Haelian I found the number and power of enemies at 32 heat really depleted my DDs. And some runs don’t even see Patty to replenish them. I read a neat trick of purposely dying with SD when low on health to get back to reasonable health for the next chamber. Can just keep doing this for the whole run if needed. Then get the tooth for Styx in preparation for Hades.
take the gauntlets and take zeus attack buff+joulted its autowin.if you still strugle hard take zeus's aid fill skill or athena's you have to use everything at once for bursting hades.
@@ahadmerchant9498 As far as I know, the go-to is Aphrodite on attack and Dionysus on special. That's carried me easily up through about 12 heat without deaths!
@@ahadmerchant9498 yeah the aphro dio 1-2 punch is OP with priv status. I think there's a duo for increased dmg vs weak inflicted as well, which also breaks it.
@@ahadmerchant9498 I'm partial to Aphro on attack and Demeter on special. Great damage output and the chill effect slowing everything down offsets the speed buff from Forced Overtime. For extra safety I always look for Athena's dash and I like Pressure Points to spice up the damage a little bit more.
This all seems really solid to me, but I was surprised at Tight Deadline being recommended past level 1. I'm probably just really slow, but I can barely make it through Tight Deadline level 1. I don't think I could actually do it at 7:00 per zone. On my 32 heat win I only put one point into it, and made up the heat with convenience fee iirc
seems to vary from person to person. i've been able to do tight deadline 2 in multiple runs recently, albeit i cut it close (in fact the first time i beat the game with it on, i ran out of time during the hades fight and got really stressed), but i just can't do tight deadline 3 unless I turn down the heat a lot
2 yr old vid so doubt this will get a response. But noob question. In the vid he had a choice between hammer and Normal Ares and chose Ares... Hammer for me is priority over all and I can't imagine anything comparing in 99% of circumstances. Is the hammer guaranteed to show up later anyway if you skip or am I over valuing the hammer? This was even in Tartarus when I have to imagine Ares boons aren't snowballing yet
Not certain what video you mean since this doesn't show a run. It just really depends. Was I going for Merciful End? If so, hammers matter a lot less at the end of the build. Hammers are extremely likely to show up again if you skip it in Tartarus, you'll most likely get 1-2 more opportunities before the end of Asphodel. Also depends on what weapon I was using since hammers aren't as reliably "good" on certain weapons (i.e. sword).
Not gonna lie... My goal when I come back to Hades is Heat 10... For the all bosses extreme measures victory. I've already got the epilogue and most of the story done.
my logic behind heightened security is simply 'don't get hit by traps'. It works fine, free heat point, the only difficult part there is asphodel with the lava. I also took extreme measures early just to learn the fights while the game is easy and to get some interactions.
I honestly don't udnerstand CHAOS ASPECT in today's game version. It sucks. Not as much as Stygius Zagreus for example, but enough to be the least usable shield.
@@algwallt869 Try turning on God Mode in your settings! It can be turned off at any time with no penalty whatsoever and it increases damage resistance, starting at 20% and increasing by 2% each run you die until you hit 80% dmg res. I used it for my initial escapes, beat the story, and then when I felt comfortable enough later I turned it off (but still toggle with it from time to time). It took me ~65 escape attempts and almost 40 hours to beat Hades the first time, and now on escape #125 I just beat 16 heat with gilgamesh fists without God Mode on! You can do it!
Finding out Haelian died his first 32H attempt makes me feel better about my first attempt.
Same, I got to the dad fight on my first attempt, but got crushed, glad to know I'm not alone
@Elfreda Mcferrin you're right. No one gives a damn. 🌝
I died in first room on 32h
He is actually human!
Help pls guys what does the 3 sculptures make at 1:17 at the left side how are they Called i dont unlocked it yet and would want to watch a video to how get them and what they make
15:51 My guy out here on tight deadline 3 and still had time for the supportive shade.
The devs knew how important the Supportive Shade was, the timer stops right after you defeat a boss---and doesn't restart until the next room with enemies in it. It took me a while to realize I didn't have to pause the game to think about keepsake swapping/wells/checking for money pots
I started with the trap damage and kept getting cucked on hades by the green jars as my first heat punishment yikes. Took me a while to figure out why it was one shotting me lmao
didnt know those were considered traps good to know
I was cleaning my room while listening to the video and I completely stopped in my tracks when he mentioned the urns like "SO THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS!!"
I was so confused because I could’ve sworn they didn’t use to do that much damage
After watching you play, I gave a Chiron build a shot for my first attempt at 16 heat (previous high was 9), and I absolutely obliterated the run. Full death defiance at the end. Gonna give 32 heat a shot tonight. Thanks for the tips!
how did it go
I think my most ran keepsake by far is Lambent Plume.
+1.2% dodge and movement speed for every fast room clear is like a blessing by the time I reach the final boss, as I usually have over 25% dodge chance. This is made even more useful when combined with Greater Evasion, and even more so with Gloves.
Of course one could say I just love RNG dictating whether I get hit or not.
Imagine if you got it to 100 percent lol
@@CountJulius well youd basically not need it cuz youd hsve to clear every floor super fast and do all chambers with epic greater evasion
It would be cool but to use it properly you have to equip it from start to the end so you can't manipulate your build with gods keepsake and this is very bad.
I tried that strategy for a while but I made the mistake of going all in on evasion, not realising that it's diminishing returns, the more evasion-type boons you have. I got as far as 30% from the plume, 25 from Hermes and 15 from the gloves but Hades still hit me in all the crucial moments. If we're going for long-term boni, Thanatos' keepsake is a much safer bet, I think. Even 20% of bonus damage is pretty rad and still very doable with a ranged build.
I'm still trying out lower Heat levels, but I feel like EM1 is a good choice for 1 Heat. It only affects one fight, and it's not that much harder than normal. Damage Control is also pretty trivial for builds with fast attacks.
For 2 Heat, I found Benefits Package easier than Middle Management. Even if BP affects many more encounters, I don't feel like they're much more difficult, while MM can easily cost you a Death Defiance. (Although you can argue it's best to learn these fight faster.)
For 3 Heat, I didn't find Forced Overtime 1 that tough, but I imagine combining that with Jury Summons and Hard Labor can be real scary.
Me putting Extreme Measures lvl 3 and time limit just to get lvl 8 Heat lmao and that worked fine for me
Yeah, I've been keeping Tight Deadline lv2 and EM3 pretty much on all the time ever since I've seen how simple they were. Benefits Package lv1 and Middle Management as well
I constantly kept tight deadline 2 and extrme measures 3 on when I was trying to learn the game. Was super helpful and now I can do 32 semi-consistently with my better aspects, was definitely the move.
You can add middle management to that and you're good all the way up to 10/11. Hard labour 1 rank and 1 benefits package up to about 14/15. From 16 onwards I think it starts getting pretty dang hard without some good luck.
@@od1401: Underworld Customs is near-free.
I have just been recently doing Pact of Punishment, and I, at least so far, only go up to EM2. I feel like the Furies and the Bone Hydra don't get that much stronger, but Theseus on a chariot is harder to handle for me
I find that Forced Overtime is by far the most difficult of the optional pacts. My first attempts at 32 heat I had it on, and it's so much worse than any of the others, particularly in Elysium. Some chambers with Benefits Package+Jury Summons become much more difficult with that extra speed, and the minotaur is a lot harder if you don't have 3+ dashes. Take Hard Labor over it any day. Sure if you get hit with maxed Hard it hurts more, but you will get hit way more often when enemies are faster.
Yeah its hard for me to Dodge Hades at 20%
Thats actually a pretty good point
you look so happy
Can you imagine how happy he’ll look if or when this game comes out with an expansion? Let’s cross our fingers for sooner than later.
@@rolo1369 definitely when
I think I've spent more hours watching your videos than actually playing the game. Learned a lot from you. Thanks!
I've gotten 32 on Demeter Fists, Nemesis Sword, Arthur and Zagreus Spear (Painful run, would not recommend). A pretty good setup for melee if you can play fast is Hermes trinket and Ruthless Reflex on max tight deadline. Don't take EM 4, Calisthenics or Jury Summons. Damage Control is whack too. You might get cheesed by Styx on the time limit but it's worth the risk to be a nonstop offensive beast with (up to) 100% dodge chance, provided you get the rare or epic Hermes dodge boon and can dash with precision. Seeing a lot of ranged weapon comments so figured I'd drop some melee tips
I’ve found damage control to be by far the easiest to deal with
best heat guide i’ve seen. haven’t been focusing on higher heat since i’m mostly trying to finish minor prophecies first but only prophecy left is Chaos Defiance (sigh, rng) so i’m ready to start pushing. solid explanations and alts make this guide very valuable for intermediate ppl like myself. ty
Just completed bringing persephone back and im just now realizing you can talk to the Boulder
Don’t worry, you can’t do it until a certain point in your relationship with Sisyphus
I've been trying to clear 32 Heat with every aspect and this echoes my thoughts pretty closely. I have found the most success with max Tight Deadline, EM3, and no Jury Summons, Calisthenics, Approval or Routine Inspection- very close to what you show at 14:14 in the video. I do use Heightened Security as I'm pretty good at avoiding traps, and I'll switch between 2 Damage Control or an extra point in Hard Labor and Lasting Consequences based on what weapon I'm using. I find aspects where you can use that 2 DC a lot easier.
Agreed Tiger! Some times I'm displeased that we cant try more builds when doing 50 heat because damage control is such a problem.
I started doing the pact runs recently and this guide is very helpful! I'm still in the first heat levels, but this is going to help me a lot in avoiding pacts that are going to make the game too hard.
Just beat 32 heat for the first time today! I used chaos shield with Dio special, Ares attack, and curse of nausea. This guide really helped and I wanted to pop in and say thanks :)
Love these guides! I personally hate Convenience Fee, would honestly rather get a little better at the game and add that heat somewhere else.
Hestia being a good one is surprising to me, gonna have to try that out. I've only managed 32 with Chiron and Eris so far and thought both of them worked pretty great. Eris makes short work of every room and it's so easy to get the build going. Rama and Hera seem very doable too although I didn't have much luck there yet. And I'm never completing 32 with Sword/Spear/Fists, that's just a whole another level of difficulty.
The damage from the hestia reload does A LOT of damage. It just feels so different from a lot of the way you play with the other aspects so it takes some getting used to. An epic attack boon that adds %dmg increase (artemis is the best, imo,) and a chaos attack boon make it smooth sailing. You'll be hitting like a truck after your reloads.
edit: should add that leveling it up to max is a must since it increases the base damage, making the %attack bonuses scale better
damage control 2 comes free for fists. pick up breaching cross and benefits package doesn't matter. basically 7 free heat makes it not that bad imo
Cleared 32 heat fists with Lambent Plume Zag fist. Had Greater Dodge and Second Wind. EM4 was close, but cleared it nevertheless when I was dodging most of the stuff thrown at me.
Eris is definitely amazing but I wanted a build that was a bit different this time to show, hestia is good stuff!
@@Haelian I really appreciate that!
Great guide, Haelian! This is super helpful to my current quest to do 32 heat on every aspect (I struggle the most with sword and spear, if you have any pointers on that). And coincidentally, your recommended 32 heat builds are the builds I recommended to beginners in a recent video of mine, lol.
perfect timing lmao i jus beat hades for the first two times earlier after watching ur weapon guides, so i was lookin at heat now :'D
Getting lightning rod works pretty well for me when i get overwhelmed and just have to focus on dodging
For 32 Heat I picked all the packs that didn't make the average enemy harder to kill. I got the 15% dodge fists, got the golden plume that increases dodge if you finish encounters fast, and then just punched everyone blindly with like 60% dodge by the end and beat 32 heat on my first try, albeit barley. My timer ran out during Hades and I thought I was just going to instantly die but it's just damage over time.
I used your recommended pacts for Hestia and barely made it on 32H. Thanks for saving me the headache of figuring it out!
Got the game a weak ago and finished my 1st 16h run yesterday. Now working to get the last prize, thanks for your input as in a lot of videos, for inspiration of builds and helping me understand what i need to go for.
personally i find i take a lot of damage in individual rooms than in boss fights, so i usually go for middle management & extreme measures. (but yeah mega gorgonxskullcrusher is still the worst) Damage Control is great if using high attack rate like fists/rail but probably don't use it with things like hestia or hera bow
ayye! this video looks real good btw, the cuts of zag walking through the rooms to show where to find the mirror and punishment pacts and wells are very well placed :D
Very comprehensive guide; thanks for putting it together! I'm still trying to work up the gumption to tackle EM3, though. I also feel even better now about my decision to prioritize maxing out Hestia and Chiron; love those weapons. Chaos Shield is next!
EM3 is when shit starts to get real. I recommend seeking out Asterius as the mini-boss before this, just to get used to his new moves and to take off a chunk of his health as usual. There's even special dialogue for when he and his butt-buddy get tricked out.
@@AndrewBlechinger I'm still working my way to 16 heat (did 10 max) and honestly, after how much trouble I had with the base boss fight, I expected more from EM3. I had no idea what it was going to be when I did it, but I beat it first try anyway. You can pretty much ignore Theseus for the first half of the fight and just fight Asterius until he dies, and then it becomes super easy. I would even go as far to say that EM2 Hydra is harder to deal with than Elysium EM3. EM4 very much fucked me over though.
I agree on seeking out Asterius first, since he's the bigger problem of the two.
Wonderful video, thanks for this. I literally started trying for the 32 heat yesterday so this is perfect timing. I am an unfortunately extremely slow player (I have 40 clears and now average 25-30 minutes a clear for
I'm with you! I recognize that the smart thing for me to do is to get faster, but I just don't have as much fun with the game when I'm playing up against that deadline.
I'm happy to hear you're taking the advice and tweaking it to meet your needs! There's definitely no one-size-fits-all especially for 32.
Heightened security is awful and only counts as one heat. many great runs have been destroyed from the spike cogs in styx and the beam things. They hit for like 100+!. youd think to yourself, how hard can it be, just avoid the traps. That is until you realize just how often you do get hit by traps during runs.
I was so glad you mentioned the mega gorgon miniboss being significantly harder with the changes! I thought I was just playing badly lmfaoo
I did my first 8 heat run with just tight deadline 2 and extreme measures 2, as neither really make the run harder. Then i added benefits package to make it the full 8. I got it first try with no struggle what so ever.
From my experience tight deadline 2 and extreme measures 2 are just free +6 heat as long as you remember to pause when not actively playing.
For my first 16 heat run I did it straight after my first 8 heat run, also with no real difficulties, I just had to beat the extreme measures 4 for the achievement and decided to add forced overtime on top of it to make it the 16 required for the skelly statue. Finished it in just under 15 minutes so with no time pressure, also had all 3 death defiances at the end, haven't tried extreme measures 4 since, but seems very free considering the substantial amount of heat it gives.
This guide really helped me out to finally beat 32 heat. I breezed through heat 31 when the stars aligned and I got a run with +253% special damage from chaos, lvl 5 deadly flourish and triple bomb but then I hit a brick wall on 32 when I couldn't get that same luck again.
for your first 12 heat you can just run extreme measures 4 and middle management. For those 12 runs with each weapon you only have to worry about the tougher bosses and don't have to fuss with turning different pacts on and off for each level of heat. With 72 titan blood and ambrosia you can max out your companion keepsakes and upgrade a few choice aspects to max.
Furies on extreme measures has a lot of variance as you can get any one of the three sisters and sometimes you only get two sisters instead of three. Tisiphone is generally the hardest because she makes the room smaller which is really bad for a lot of aspects. I find alecto easier because it's easy to just doge around her and bait her to walk into the traps.
Lernie is pretty much the same except now there is lava in the middle of the room and the arena is smaller overall. I find extreme measure lernie easier as extreme measures lernie is always the same which makes him easy to plan for while base lernie has a bunch of variants which makes planning for the fight a lot harder.
I find extreme measures Theseus and Asterius easier because Theseus in his chariot can't block, most of his attacks don't target zag, and he enters phase 2 at lower health. Asterius' big spin is easy to avoid and leaves him open to long range attacks. Base Theseus is super annoying as he's constantly blocking and throwing his spear at Zag while Asterius chases Zag around the arena.
Extreme measures (redacted) is the only fight that is significantly harder. (Redacted) summons mini bosses, gets a summon, and during the extra third stage the edge of the screen gets darkened making it harder to see attacks coming from off screen.
Forced overtime is absolutely brutal. Movement speed modifiers in hades are extremely noticeable and have a huge effect. Even just 10% form a common level hermes boon is really noticeable.
Hard labor can be mitigated with boons that slow/stun/weaken enemies. It's much easier to just dash away from a slow strong hit then from multiple
Heightened security is basically a free level of heat because traps are easy to avoid.
Damage control will either have no impact or it will make your build unplayable. Trouble is that sometimes you turn on damage control and all you find are hammers and boons for one shot/first strike builds.
benefits package 1 is fine but with rank 2 you can get a lot of perk combinations that are really difficult to deal with.
I rather run calisthenics program and jury summons then tight deadline.
Underworld customs and approval process can be circumvented a bit by using authority to reroll rooms like darkness and gems into extra boons. If running convince fee then you can also try to reroll money. you can also jump inside a caos gate to get a different set of rooms.
Routine inspection basically makes your run a fresh file run except you get to keep your keepsakes and weapons. If you can clear a fresh file run with no mirror upgrades then just turn on routine inspection and keep it maxed out until you've finished your runs with each weapon and then slowly add jurry summons, hard labor, and calisthenics program
this came just in time for me, been running 32 heat all day today with a merciful end build losing to hades most times, or flame wheels. gonna get rid of the 4th extreme measures didnt know about the health thing, thought it was just bigger adds spawned and the heal thing
Malphon Zagreus aspect with Lambent plume and Hermes greater evasion worked wonders for me.
"You wont beat 32 heat on your first try"
The luckiest Eris Rail run in existence would like to say hi. I got Sea Storm in asphodel and then posieden gave me a replacement attack. Rocket bomb + cluster bomb with aphro special. Divine dash and athena call and billowing.
Nice~~~~
Got mine the first too in aegis zag. Love and war combo. Ares for spec and aphro for attack and full critical on side boons. Double attack and blast bull rush. Drained hades in 2 minutes.
To practice each weapon now I often just take extreme measure 4 on all weapons.
Hades is fine if you don't take forced overtime lv2 and damage 100%.
Forced Overtime really makes Hades super scary, and bigger hit is very painful too.
Extreme measures 4 and middle management is an easy way to get your first 12 heat on each weapon as you just have to learn the new boss fights. Lernie is easier on extreme measures as his fight is always the same where as base lernie has a bunch of variants. Extreme measures thesues is easier because he can't block in his chariot, he doesn't target zag directly, and he enters phase 2 at lower health. Asterius is also easier as you can just shoot him with long range attacks while he does his spin move.
Gonna try again tomorrow... I tried going for 32 heat and managed to get to Hades twice with my Chiron setup:
1. Artemis Attack
2. Demeter Special
3. Dionysus Cast
4. Athena Dash
5. Whatever call I can fit.
I had two ranks in Forced Overtime and EM4. What killed me in the end wwwwas the 100 damage vases during the Hades fight :(
God speed friend
Once I finally beat Lord Hades for the first time(Just bought the game a few days ago), I tried out the 1 heat run. I went with what got me my first run completion, the bow. Max Zag Aspect(Died to Hades alot previously so I had some Titan Blood to spend) with Jury Summons as my 1 Heat. Beat it and then BARELY completed the very next run using Max Zag Aspect Twin Fists.
Well you were right I didn't clear 32 Heat on my first try.
I managed it on my second after coming here and looking at your recommended pact set up.
I managed it Eris Rail with an epic Zeus boon on the attack.
My first attempt had EM 4 on and I died to Hades in the final phase, but I had breezed my way through the rest without things like damage control and lasting consequences on.
The winning run felt much more dangerous and out of my control than the first did. I think the real difference maker was that I lucked out and saw Patty to refill all 3 DD's I had used up to that point. And the final fight was really easy as well without EM4.
Very nice! I am currently struggling for 32 heat, your video arrives at time ! Hope you'll do some video about boons !
Thanks dude! Best hades content creator out there.
I think for most normal people including myself tight deadline is unuasable it’s important in my opinion to give yourself as much time as possible other than that a lot of grate tips love the content keep it up
Can't even front, that apple bobbing clip got me to follow you on twitch 😂
Very solid guide. Definitely plan to use some of these tips moving forward towards 32 heat.
I beat 32 heat on my first try with a crazy aspect of Beowulf build, I had hard labor 1, em4, bp2, mm, customs, overtime 2, and TD3. Beowulf is super strong with mirage shot, since mirage shot is bugged on flare casts and just fires double casts without the damage penalty. Highly recommend. I used flood flare, mirage shot, fully loaded, a few more powerful boons too like some chaos ones. And try to pom flood flare up to level 5 or 6
"Git gud with no annoyances" 32 heat: full hard labor, extreme measures, forced overtime, heightened security and benefits package. + 2 points into tight deadline and middle management.
And then just break it with base 50% dodge from zag fists + lambent plume, which can go up to 100% total with greater dodge and second wind. Or just some well placed "+50% dodge" dashes, but I couldn't pull it off consistently enough.
Still took me a dozen tries or so, but got to Hades fairly consistently.
Excellent video Haelian! When I started climbing on the heat ladder I much preferred EM 3 and tight deadline 2 or 3 even, those 2 combined are a bunch of heat and they don't add difficulty to the whole run, only to the boss fights (and not that much once you get used to them), EM 4 is still very scary though, I only had it on when I was attempting 32 heat. Also, tight deadline helps with building up speedrun practice :D
I know I’m super late to the hades hype but your videos have helped me tremendously! Thanks so much
Thank you for doing the guides! Love the game and these help me enjoy it even more!
Nice! I recommend: Aspect of achilles with an cast build Blade rift cast (ares), take duo boon artemis (hunting blades). Artemis attack (because of the attack buff) and zeus on special. Trust me ... oh man... Damage overkill
aspect of rama with dionysus on special and artemis on attack was great. tried three runs trying to do a zeus/Poseidon build, and on my fourth after switching had honestly a really easy time with this build. rama with dionysus on special does an insane amount of damage
I find it a little amusing calling the layers of hell as "Biomes". It's a way to put it.
I think that's actually what Supergiant called them in early access updates.
I enjoy your guides and videos! Been very informative for pushing harder content in the game.
Haven't played the game yet but I love your videos, very insightful for when I do pick up the game.
11:30 adamant rail zeus heat setup (bookmarking this for later)
I started with Damage Control 1, did a few runs with that, then jumped straight up to EM3. Right now I'm doing just EM4 consistently but none of my weapons have enough clears to run me out of bounties at that stage so I'm pretty content.
The first 6 heat I ever got used to was Forced Overtime +40% AtkSpd, then extreme meassurements...from there nothing can stop you to like 40 heat
Thanks for the guide I finally managed to beat it yesterday
Finally playing this game and finding this channel has been great. Ive just barely got into heat but as I understand it you get bounties up to 20 heat, would you recommend simply jumping to 32 heat straight from 20, or even lower once I have a maxed weapon aspect from those you listed? Theres no reason to do heat 21-31 right? Considering I escaped on my 58th attempt its going to take me weeks to build up that high anyway lol.
Correct no reason to do more after 20 once the bounties are done other than for the challenge, so you can do whatever you feel like.
I chose middle management and extreme measures first because They were the most interesting and made the fights more fun
I don't know why I'm watching this if I already done 32 a few times, but I think the noob way is avoiding the timer and Extreme Measures 4. Even when 7 minutes is almost like "no timer at all", if you are inexperienced you may have a bad build and die because of the low damage. Also, you may commit more mistakes trying to be quick... or be to careless and die on Elyssium because it's longer.
I personally love zeus shield with zeus special, jolt, Aphrodite attack, and hopefully double strike and zeus legend boon
the very first pact i consistently used was extreme measures. my thinking was that the only thing that gets harder (for the first level) is the meg fight, which isnt that bad and is a relatively small portion of the entire run, and i knew id have to learn the new fight and patterns eventually anyway. it's an interesting choose but I've always found crowded rooms to be much more dangerous than bosses, bc bosses generally have learnable and more consistently dodgeable attacks.
Lovely video. Best hades channel.
EM3 was an easy choice for me, mainly because it keeps most of the game unchanged while only changing the boss fights. The minotaur was hard to deal with though.
Damage Control also was a no brainer, until I went for hard-hitting builds instead of fast-hitting builds.
Funnily enough, Heightened Security is the first very Heat I chose - It's very punishing in the final trap rooms and with Hades, but any long distance weapons with Hades can get rid of those vases outright. Otherwise I don't notice it at all.
Haven't played with the timer yet, but for getting started I found Extreme Measures 2 and Damage Control 2 quite easy.
You wanna know the fun thing? I actually managed to beat 32 heat on my first try and without losing any defiance.
I used Chiron's aspect but also made sure to deactivate the tight deadline condition (I don't find myself comfortable with timers, I wanna play at my own pace)
Thank you, I tried clearing with rail but it's just not my kind of playstyle. My second try was zeus sheild, beat it in 19 minutes.
Oh I'm looking forward to this
Still trying myself, but the closest I've gotten has been Zagreus fists, both dash-strike hammer upgrades, Athena attack, Artemis dash and the Athena/Artemis duo boon... I just really shouldn't have taken Extreme Measures 4.... That's what did me in
For whatever reason forced overtime levels one and two was my main method of getting to 8 heat on all my weapons and my goodness, swapping it off to farm some darkness fucked up my whole timing
Best thing that worked for me at 8 heat was EM3 with Tight Deadline 1
Wait, calisthenics increases boss hp, and not just standard mobs? I'd been shoving it in because it felt reasonable but that's good to keep in mind for future tries
One of the best tips to beat 32 heat for beginners is to use stubborn defiance. Then use lucky tooth when entering Styx so you effectively still get 2 “death” defiances against Hades.
I don't recommend Stubborn Defiance unless you put Lasting Consequences at 100%.
@@Haelian I found the number and power of enemies at 32 heat really depleted my DDs. And some runs don’t even see Patty to replenish them. I read a neat trick of purposely dying with SD when low on health to get back to reasonable health for the next chamber. Can just keep doing this for the whole run if needed. Then get the tooth for Styx in preparation for Hades.
A happy vampire if you will.
I did an easy 16 w Chiron, but everything I've tried since that has failed. Working my way back up slow.
take the gauntlets and take zeus attack buff+joulted its autowin.if you still strugle hard take zeus's aid fill skill or athena's you have to use everything at once for bursting hades.
Which gods did you have for Chiron? I’ve only gotten 2 wins with Chiron despite everyone saying how op it is :(
@@ahadmerchant9498 As far as I know, the go-to is Aphrodite on attack and Dionysus on special. That's carried me easily up through about 12 heat without deaths!
@@ahadmerchant9498 yeah the aphro dio 1-2 punch is OP with priv status. I think there's a duo for increased dmg vs weak inflicted as well, which also breaks it.
@@ahadmerchant9498 I'm partial to Aphro on attack and Demeter on special. Great damage output and the chill effect slowing everything down offsets the speed buff from Forced Overtime. For extra safety I always look for Athena's dash and I like Pressure Points to spice up the damage a little bit more.
I have always played with max forced overtime since I could move it up. It seemed a no brainer for stacking up points.
Every time I escape do I have to take on more
I hate being on a timer im probably never going to pick that heat
Amazing. Keep going!!!
I think the 32 heat guide is great, but why was Chiron shooting so fast? Like the arrows were like lightning speed I know it’s not Hermes special buff
Nice guide
Damn DampDaddy, I is learnedt!
This all seems really solid to me, but I was surprised at Tight Deadline being recommended past level 1. I'm probably just really slow, but I can barely make it through Tight Deadline level 1. I don't think I could actually do it at 7:00 per zone. On my 32 heat win I only put one point into it, and made up the heat with convenience fee iirc
seems to vary from person to person. i've been able to do tight deadline 2 in multiple runs recently, albeit i cut it close (in fact the first time i beat the game with it on, i ran out of time during the hades fight and got really stressed), but i just can't do tight deadline 3 unless I turn down the heat a lot
2 yr old vid so doubt this will get a response. But noob question. In the vid he had a choice between hammer and Normal Ares and chose Ares... Hammer for me is priority over all and I can't imagine anything comparing in 99% of circumstances. Is the hammer guaranteed to show up later anyway if you skip or am I over valuing the hammer? This was even in Tartarus when I have to imagine Ares boons aren't snowballing yet
Not certain what video you mean since this doesn't show a run. It just really depends. Was I going for Merciful End? If so, hammers matter a lot less at the end of the build. Hammers are extremely likely to show up again if you skip it in Tartarus, you'll most likely get 1-2 more opportunities before the end of Asphodel. Also depends on what weapon I was using since hammers aren't as reliably "good" on certain weapons (i.e. sword).
@@Haelian was at 16:15 of this one, just a small 2 second clip. But thank you for answering my question.
32 heat is still a pain. Hoping some of these tips help
Managed to do this first try with zeus eris and athena dash. Got lucky to get all npcs in all zones
We are assuming that all of this is done without God Mode, correct?
Not gonna lie... My goal when I come back to Hades is Heat 10... For the all bosses extreme measures victory.
I've already got the epilogue and most of the story done.
my logic behind heightened security is simply 'don't get hit by traps'. It works fine, free heat point, the only difficult part there is asphodel with the lava. I also took extreme measures early just to learn the fights while the game is easy and to get some interactions.
I am strugelingf with 32 heat I did 16 with no problem and now I feel like a vbegginer all over agin using death defied on the fury sisters
Meanwhile I still struggle a moderate amount on 0 heat lol
Shame this came out a few hours after I finally beat 32 heat
Eris Zeus-posideon no good for 32?
It is very good
I honestly don't udnerstand CHAOS ASPECT in today's game version.
It sucks. Not as much as Stygius Zagreus for example, but enough to be the least usable shield.
Me not even though unlocking the ability to raise the heat and I still can’t beat it
Approval Process? I feel like it's not that bad
lmao i nver touched the heat page bc it always said too much heat so i played on 5 normal heat
Im 32 hours into the game, had about 45 escape attempts and I still couldnt beat Hades...
Had 70+ runs and only beaten him once! I think it was on run 30 something.
@@algwallt869 Try turning on God Mode in your settings! It can be turned off at any time with no penalty whatsoever and it increases damage resistance, starting at 20% and increasing by 2% each run you die until you hit 80% dmg res. I used it for my initial escapes, beat the story, and then when I felt comfortable enough later I turned it off (but still toggle with it from time to time).
It took me ~65 escape attempts and almost 40 hours to beat Hades the first time, and now on escape #125 I just beat 16 heat with gilgamesh fists without God Mode on! You can do it!
love the vids