So yesterday, I went out to the local soccer field to practice. I found myself walking out almost every time to get my sinker out of the grass. Today I cut an X in a tennis ball and shoved the sinker inside. I caught a Black Lab twice and a Dalmatian once. They both put up a great fight.
Been casting in a very similar fashion but what you mentioned about adjusting the drag to the level you mentioned was something new for me. Will definitely try it out next time I go fishing, thanks mate
Thank you for breaking down every little thing you do . i'm somewhat new at surf fishing (2 years) and when trying to help me with casting no one has ever mentioning tightening the drag to max, but it makes sense because i can definitely feel the line slipping when i start to cast. can't wait to try it!
Hi there buddy! Try to cast the same way as in the video but with your hands outstretched and after you let go of the line keep your rod at an 45 degree angle . You will see major improvements in distance! Also your reel size its an important factor when it comes to cast long distances. I would say for your rod a 7000 reel would work perfect togheter. After all these are just some tips, if you wanna count them fine if not still fine. Push with your right and pull with your left. Keep working and keep posting cause i love your videos. Grettings from Romania!!!
What a great video. Just started surf casting on Long Island NY this past Fall. Picked up a 10’ Penn Battalion and a Penn Slammer 6500 DX. Going to use your tips to improve my casting,
Another new fishermen on Long Island!(isn’t it funny how we say “on” instead of “in”, that’s how I know someone is from there lol) how has your journey been? I just started trying salt water last week and I’m so overwhelmed compared to fresh water
Natural coach, certainly would be surprised if this gentleman had not coached sports previously. His tempo on casting was just at the perfect speed for me so I did not have to constantly go back in video. Being in the North East, another month or so and stripers will arrive on Cape Cod and I will practice what he preached.
@@G2COASTAL I enjoy it when other anglers share their good advice to novices like myself, meet a few helpful men when out learning what to be doing. Thanks again.
Awesome video. Thanks for this I learnt a lot. Just bought myself a new 12ft rod and this video has given me some great insight into casting. I have slowly moved from 7ft - 10ft and now trying out a 12ft. Keep up the great content.
Drag is still functional with the bail open. Easy way to understand what I mean is lighten your drag and put a light weight on and just go throw a slow casting motion with the bail open but don’t release the line and you’ll feel the drag slip. Go slow and lightweight so you don’t cut yourself with the braid testing this out.
Thanks for the video I just picked up a 9 foot penn wrath combo gonna be putting this into practice its definitely alot more rod than the 7 footers I'm used to slinging baits with
We get really calm waters a lot of days along the Alabama Gulf Coast. Some days if Im fishing really close to the beach I’ll a use a 9ft rod with a 1oz weight. Thanks for watching!
@@G2COASTAL I just find it interesting how it's done elsewhere, hopefully some day I'll get to wet a line on the other side of the Atlantic. Thanks for the videos, I can't imagine the patience it takes to record, edit and share them
@@Jason-im3pz its crazy how different we do it here on the Gulf Coast compared to the Atlantic and Pacific Coasts. I have friends on the Atlantic Coast who can’t believe we use such light gear here. I really appreciate you watching because it is a lot of time and effort put into each video and sometimes they flop and nobody watches, but it is what it is.
@@G2COASTAL I like to use a tapered, Shock Leader combat some of that pressure on the line and cut's myself? TEXAS STYLE FISHING BABY 🇨🇱 You need to come fish Red-fishing with us @ Surf Side Jettie's ✌🏾Awesome Video Bro .!!
Thanks for the instructive tutorial. Perhaps I missed hearing it... although you did say you were using a Penn Battle II, I didn't hear you say what SIZE Spinning Reel "you" are using here. Not did I hear what length Spinning Rod "you" were using here. Obviously, you don't want a whopper heavy reel that isn't balanced to the Rod. Hope you'll share your specifics. And, lastly maybe it was just me, but when you positioned your Spinning Rod parallel to you ...just before your forward motion cast, was your Spinning Reel Bail Open & were you using your hand's forefinger to hold the line just before you executed your cast? Or did you Open your bail up during the early seconds of the forward cast? Thanks.
Great video! Another alternative that most of us Cape Cod Canal fisherman use for finger protection is hockey tape or medical tape. Cheap and effective. Also thinner braid will improve distance but if you are fishing rocky areas I suggest thicker braid.
Just watched your '100 yard' surf casting video and enjoyed it. You covered alot of ground. Hard to do in a quick lesson. You probably have many years of power casting. So do I. My comments come from 2 tips I have learned and use. 1) The 10 to 1 rule/ ratio. For a 2 oz. Pyramid use 20 lb. line (mono or braid). For 3 oz. lead us 30 lb. line and on and on. When putting the muscles into it a 'SNAP OFF' can be the most dangerous thing around surf casting. Maybe some viewers aren't ready for 'shock leader class' but I always use the 10 to 1 rule. Last but not least' finally. On the ready...set.... go on the cast. I use the ready...set...check the weigh, little pendulum swing away from you......go. Starts the rod loading up even before your swing. With all that being said you probably can out cast me on my best day which was like 30 years ago.
In Europe we use the same technique for casting carp rods (12') . I did not understand why tightening the drag when the bail arm is up, there is nothing moving in the reel. In heavy feeder fishing which in terms of the rig is similar, we use so-called shock leader which goes twice the length of the rod, from the hook to the reel. This prevents line snapping in power casting. I don't know if this could be applied to the surf fishing. Anyways thank you for sharing your knowledge.
The drag is always active even when the bail is open or closed because the drag is independent and isn’t connected to the bail arm. If the drag is set light and you cast a heavy weight you’ll feel the line slip across your finger and I learned the hard way I got a nice deep cut from the braid slipping across my finger. And yes several people use shock leaders for surf fishing here I just don’t need one for my style of fishing. Thanks for watching!!!
Didn't know about tightening the drag. Thanks.. When speaking about line; I'll spool 125 yds. of braid on a new reel, then cut it and rejoin w/ double Uni knot, then add another 125 yds. When it needs replacing, I cut the line at the Uni knot and add 125 yds. of new line. It saves on time and money.. plus it keeps the spool full of new line.
Great Video! I have yet to cast for the first time. I have acquired a conventional Penn Long Beach Reel and purchased a telescopic 6' suitcase rod since I travel and currently down in Puerto Vallarta. I feel sure a lot of your info will help me even with a conventional reel. Will let you know how it turns out next week when the rod arrives from Amazon. Muchas Gracias!
I was starting with the rod a lot lower and giving a little bounce before casting. I thought this was helping but still could not get the distance I wanted. I followed your tips and just started with the rod parallel and dead still and was finally able to get behind the surf zone. I don't know how much more distance I really got, but the cast felt more energetic. I still just need to find a glove or something that'll work for the line release.
Great video & tips for all of us. It's good you mentioned rod height & person's height. Like all things you do improve with practice following your tips. What's your thoughts on casting cannon triggers bait launchers, etc. A friend recommended it to me. Thanks
A cheap alternative to the casting-glove is a 3 inch piece of bicycle inner tube. Any local bike shop has a few blown tubes in the trash. One of them is a lifetime supply.
Awesome sub My thought is not effecting or infecting the rig with tire/foreign smell. Could effect hits if you mix it up? Just separate smells/handling equip landing one.
AND thanks for the tip on horizontal and pull when you chuck rod. Could have used that in Australia 25 year ago as green horn Canadian surf caster (guess still am) that was a 16 foot one piece with Alvey baker light reel from a pond shop was budget tourist. Lots of small brown shark in the north but one at 6 feet. F'd me up. 75ish minutes later, measure, release...
I'm a 5'5 160 pound chick. I've always loved fishing but really starting going fishing these past couple years. Also don't have many chances to go having a 4 year old lol but this vid is really helpful. I use a 8 foot right now and can cast a decent length but feel like I should be going more. Was thinking about trying a ten foot rod out. I do the drag technique and line the reel like you do. Put the motion part I feel would help me a lot. I don't put the pole parallel. So definitely going to try that. And I've been using 4 ounce pyramid so I'm going to see if the 3 ounce helps me out. Thanks for the advice
that was simple and honest and actually does work like that. I do surfcasting for 10 years and let me add one thing. It Is more about the precision that about the distance. Is more about the precision point where you will cast and where the fish is actually and actively looking for food then casting at the most distance we can. I confess that 90% of the fish I catch was caught between 15 m and 80 meters distance. Sorry about use the metric system as this is what we use in Portugal 😏
Great video. Like someone said earlier- check out the rod "lure" weight ratings. I can cast a 3oz sinker with bloodworms far as heck. Now if Im using a whole surf clam or a big chunk of bunker- my casting distance is incredibly reduced. Single dropper loop rigs tend to get out waay farther than a fishfinder rig.
No need to adjust the drag when throwing lures. Tightening the drag all the way down just keeps it from slipping when throwing 3oz or heavier sinkers and will also keep you from getting cut by the braid when using heavier sinkers.
In the uk you have to use a shock leader of 70lb line to stop your lead breaking off during the cast as most times you need 5 or 6 oz leads when the sea is pulling hard If you get the chance you must do some beach fishing over here
We are spoiled in Alabama because we can get by with very little sinker weight. Along the East and West coasts they typically have to beef up their gear due to much stronger seas. I would love to get over to the UK and fish but I don’t know if that will happen, I’ll keep dreaming about though!
@@G2COASTAL I fish the North Sea and the tide is pulling hard you have to cast up the beach so gripper lead holds in the sand at a place called Scarborough the tide runs at 6 metres and pull your lead back under your feet
@@notmissingout9369 now thats some tidal movement! We have a couple passes where the water leaves inland that get some pretty strong flows but not that strong.
I find the reel to butt distance more useful for picking a rod than the rod length itself. I can open a 12ft to a distance of 98m. 15.5ft gets me a further 4m. Same reel changed over. Both with no. 3 bombs and both rods matching cast weights. Smaller butt on 15.5ft. So why not use the smaller one? Bigger one just holds line proud of breaking waves. Great video. Not everyone mentions leverage. Another thing i do is use flouro instead of braid. I also wax the lip on the reel and the eyes on the rod. Car wax seems to work best. Rub on and off. Smooth as silk. Flouro just a head wrecker for knots so i also just use a single hook mono rig. Im a headcase for distance. No idea why. lol. 25lb flouro and 15lb mono rig.
I 100% support a shorter rod if it can reach where you need to be. I tell people all the time if I could use a 7ft rod thats all I’d use. I’ll definitely try the wax hack!
Great vid. I lived in spain for a while and they use very long rods with special reels which i cant remember the name off but the poibt is. They chucked their bat really far while i couldnt with my 8 foot rod, but at the end if the day i cought more fish. The key was hook type. They used J hooks and i circle hooks. Its very hard to the a hook with a 15 foot rod sitting in a sand spike. All i had to do when the bite came was to reel in while the rod was in the spike.😂 Its a interesting way they fish so if you have time do a YT search on pesca de playa españa.
Back in the 80’s I saw a casting demonstration from the world casting champion! He was from South Africa! He used a 12 foot custom rod with a big reel filled to max ! He used a 40 lb shock leader and a 3 Oz weight! He used a push away pendulum motion that allows him to twist the rod completely behind him and then he swings the rod all the way around his back in a side arm motion! His video showed them at Cape Hatteras and he threw the line down the beach ! They had to drive down to the weight! He was averaging 150 to 175 yards! Honest ! Oh and he had a rubber covering on his index finger that held the line ! Wish I could remember his name!
Thank you. That was very educational. Where do you buy that glove. I have never seen one in Texas. Of course they are big on bait casters here but I like spinning reels.
Your doing things right for long casts, great display ! I use 13 fters and 15 fters 4 oz to 5 oz Pyrimid weights 25lb to 30lb 8 braid as it is round. If your right handed use your left as a Driver pushing down as you cast, I put extra weight on my butt section to make things easier to get that pendulum effect. I was a custom rod builder for 22 years and modified my 13 fters for long cast Letting your line flow free off the spool with no retrictions is very important. I raised the first big guide by a foot to let the line flow easier and moved the other 9 guides accordingly. I hope this will helps someone who wants too long cast.
You forgot to mention the golden rule. . . Your lead must not be more than Your mono/braid strength ie 20lb fluorocarbon, mono, braid- 2oz lead . . 30lb Lines 3oz leads. . And so on .! Always be safe for you and anyone near you when casting ! ! ! Tight Lines Mate 👍🎣🎣
@@kriscuthbert9671 I totaly agree with you ! When i use 20 lb braid , I use 25 or 30 lb 36 to 40" mono leader. I'm 80 and have never hooked anyone, safety is priority. Did bass fishing for 20 years and I think you know what that is like. Learned long casting 4 years ago, You Sir ' are doing things right.
Decided to go with a 11 foot rod, I am not new to fishing but bit new to surf fishing. I have a 7 foot pole at the moment but decided a 11 foot may cast out better with a 4500-5000 spinning reel.
I don't get the part where he puts the drag all the way down, what kind of difference does it do when the bail is open anyways while casting? Does the spool start to turn and thus ruining the loops coming off? He did talk about it but I'm dumb so I just don't fully understand it
Nice reel, gotta love Penn. Have you tried their SF VI Long Cast reel, yet? I got one last year and I love it. Larger diameter, shallow spool. Line screams off it, and less drag on averag from the lip. Takes less to fill up compared to same size reels too.
I went surf fishing for the first time and was using bigger Penn setups. I couldn't get 50 feet out and all kept going far to the right at 45 degree angle or more. What did I do wrong?
Probably releasing the line too early. When you release the line try to point to where you want the line to go. It takes some practice to get the feel down for it.
Looking at a 12’ to go from my 10’ heavy. What rod specs would you recommend for optimal casting at that length? Medium / medium heavy? Moderate Fast? Etc… generally throwing a 2-3oz rig cast and retrieve for Stipers in MD
If you’re mostly throwing 2-3oz a medium rod will probably suit your needs but if you need to bump up to 4-5oz at times make sure your rod is rated for those weights. As far as action goes Ive always been a fan of fast action rods especially when throwing lures. Better sensitivity and not “soft” feeling like a slow action rod.
My bomber set-up is a 10ft conventional with 4oz Sputnik + bait. Once I get into the 11-13ft it's just too long for me.. like you said, it's all about what fits the person using it....
The reason why you feel like the larger rod is too big for you is because the reel seat is in the wrong position for your body. If the rod was built for your body, then you could throw a 12' rod no problem.
Awesome tutorial. Really appreciate it. I have a number of surf rods ranging from 10 to 15 foot. Haven’t had much opportunity to cast them. Hopefully I’ll get some practice this season if the weather and my lower back cooperates. 👍🏾💯
At 49, I had a muscle related back issue. Dr. told me to lay on the floor and use my stomach muscles to force my lower back against the floor, until the gap in by lower back is gone, hold for a 20 count... 20 reps everyday. Like anything worth doing, it requires discipline, three weeks later and the lower back problems were gone forever.. I'm now 69.
Every rod will load a little different and that sweet spot will be somewhere around 1 o clock usually. You’ll find if you release too early you’ll cast high, too late and you’ll throw a line drive.
The weight you throw is determined by the rating of the rod! They will say the casting weight on the rod, typicly on a beach caster say 4-8 oz! Remembering the weight of the rig and bait , stay inside the recommended weights and you will work the rod as much as possible.
Thats actually a really hard thing to nail down because each model of rod will have a sweet spot and even changing the size of your sinker will alter the sweet spot slightly. If your casts are going high then you’re releasing too early, if your casts are low and close to the water then you’re releasing too late. It really comes down to the individual learning the feel of the rod they are using. The difference between a good cast and a not so good cast is a fraction of a second .
this is good but nobody is talking about the finger holding the line. It does not look like you are pressing the line to the rod. How are you keeping it from slipping out?
I do not hold the line against the rod, it feels weird to me. I place the line in the middle of the tip of my pointer finger and the pressure from the sinker and motion of the cast puts enough force on the line that it will stay pinned to your finger.
Do you utilize a shock leader? I was recently in the outer banks and casting 6oz with 30lb power pro and had repeated line breaks on the cast. I’m thinking i need to add a shock leader for the heavier weight
I don’t use a shock leader with my spinning gear but I rarely use anything bigger than 3oz sputniks. I have some buddies who fish the Outer Banks and they always use a shock leader with their conventional reels. A shock leader or maybe 40lb braid may be the answer for you.
We used to use 12ft rods 20 years ago in UK 🇬🇧. Newer technology means we can now use very light but powerful carbon composite rods of up to 15ft now to allow effortless casting of over 100 yards easy. Light low diameter mono with shock leaders of at least 10lb per ounce of sinker . Our tides are mental so usually 5-6oz grip leads and 70lb leader. Am sure the continental rods we use would be more than suitable for your fishing.
It was a Rod Hutchison 12ft Sceptre. Made for Carp fishing but great for the surf as well. Only issue I had was since they are designed for freshwater they just didn’t last longer than a year.
Thanks for the great video. I like the push/pull technique you mentioned. I have a question though. How does drag on/off come into play when the bail is open anyway? Doesn't the bail being open basically equate to there being zero drag set? Thanks
Thanks for watching! The drag still functions even with an open bail because its completely independent from the bail. Next time you have a rod in your hand loop your finger around the line like you’re getting ready to cast, open the bail, and with your other hand pull your line and you’ll see the drag is still functioning and allows line out. Your finger basically become the bail during the cast if that makes sense. Hope that clears it up a bit for you.
@@G2COASTAL And if your drag is loose the line can slip while casting before you let your finger off the line and cut you to the bone...... that's why you tighten the drag to avoid that happening..... cheers
Imagine a clock, 3 is directly in front of you, 12 is straight above you, 6 is straight behind. Try to release the line between 12 and 1 for most rods. Release too soon and it will go up, too late and you’ll throw a line drive straight out, its something you’ll figure out once you get the feel for it. You can let the rod go down as far as you want after the cast, just don’t let it slam into the sand and you’ll be good.
A 12ft Rod Hutchison Sceptre rod. Made for carp fishing but I loved the action it had for Pompano. Great rod but doesn’t hold up to the saltwater after about a year.
90% of the time I’m using 20lb for my leaders. Whiting rigs I’ll drop down to 10lb sometimes and if Im specifically targeting Drum I’ll jump up to 30lb leaders.
Nice explanation but maybe have a look at the South African sage assasin Hxl low mount surf casting rods , the low mount means it changes your casting style but it seriously works , I use 33lb Japanese super light casting braid probably the same thickness as normal 20lb braid , the hz has a casting cannon trigger to hold the line prior to release and the rod I use is rated for a 6 ounce sinker and 1 or 2 ounce bait , the rod is 15 foot long and without pendulum casting will easily punch a bait out 130 to 150 meters and even punch out 100 meters into a 25 knot headwind , the sinker and bait will be streamlined using a impact clip rig where the bait sits behing the 6 ounce sinker and not parachute behind the weight this is serious casting equipment
I’ve been surf fishing for three years. Out right now practicing the way you explain it in this video and already casting 10 yards more. Thanks!
That is awesome!
I’ve been surf fishing for over 40 years and you’ve described that perfectly 👍🎣 great job!
So yesterday, I went out to the local soccer field to practice. I found myself walking out almost every time to get my sinker out of the grass.
Today I cut an X in a tennis ball and shoved the sinker inside.
I caught a Black Lab twice and a Dalmatian once. They both put up a great fight.
That's funny😂
Great point on tightening the drag.
Definitely reduces the chance of getting cut by the braid.
Been casting in a very similar fashion but what you mentioned about adjusting the drag to the level you mentioned was something new for me. Will definitely try it out next time I go fishing, thanks mate
Nice!! Not condescending, spot on.
Thank you Rich!
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the effort to help all us newbs 😅
Thankyou! Experienced with spinning, but new to surfcasting. Exactly what I needed!
Good video .. I’m going to be surf fishing in Destin next week.. will be utilizing them techniques..
Im late but I hope you had some luck!
Thank you for breaking down every little thing you do . i'm somewhat new at surf fishing (2 years) and when trying to help me with casting no one has ever mentioning tightening the drag to max, but it makes sense because i can definitely feel the line slipping when i start to cast. can't wait to try it!
Thanks for all the tips! I really liked the one about pointing towards where you are aiming. Gonna try that next time. Cheers!
Hi there buddy! Try to cast the same way as in the video but with your hands outstretched and after you let go of the line keep your rod at an 45 degree angle . You will see major improvements in distance! Also your reel size its an important factor when it comes to cast long distances. I would say for your rod a 7000 reel would work perfect togheter. After all these are just some tips, if you wanna count them fine if not still fine. Push with your right and pull with your left. Keep working and keep posting cause i love your videos. Grettings from Romania!!!
Thanks for the info!
The follow through, in aiming with the rod, is so very important! 🎣
Yes for sure!
Great instructional video! I'm a new surf guy and now a new subscriber.
Holy cow, this guy is a great teacher
Thank you, I really appreciate the kind words!
Hey I watched this video yesterday before going sturgeon fishing. I managed to get at least 30 yards further. Thanks man
That is awesome!
What a great video.
Just started surf casting on Long Island NY this past Fall.
Picked up a 10’ Penn Battalion and a Penn Slammer 6500 DX.
Going to use your tips to improve my casting,
Good luck!
get a Okuma solaris 12feet XX hard power with a light reel daiwa legalis size 4000. trust me you can be able to cast 200 yards.
Another new fishermen on Long Island!(isn’t it funny how we say “on” instead of “in”, that’s how I know someone is from there lol) how has your journey been? I just started trying salt water last week and I’m so overwhelmed compared to fresh water
I've been surf fishing for about 10 years but I've never heard about tightening the drag. I'll try that next time I'm out. Thanks.
Glad I could give you a new nugget of help!
Natural coach, certainly would be surprised if this gentleman had not coached sports previously. His tempo on casting was just at the perfect speed for me so I did not have to constantly go back in video. Being in the North East, another month or so and stripers will arrive on Cape Cod and I will practice what he preached.
Appreciate the kind words! I have coached several seasons of baseball so you’re spot on!
Thanks for the tips! Man those are beautiful fishing conditions you got there! Waters like glass, it's so flat!
Flat water is actually pretty difficult here when the water is cold, thats why I made a casting video that day hahahaha
The best tutorial I’ve ever seen
Appreciate the kind words!
Many thanks. Really helpful for a newbie like me, casting off a rocky coastal spot. ☺
Glad it helped, my main goal is to help other anglers. Thanks for watching!
@@G2COASTAL I enjoy it when other anglers share their good advice to novices like myself, meet a few helpful men when out learning what to be doing. Thanks again.
Thank you for your great tutorial. I have learned some new surfing tips and skills from here. Will give a try in a few coming days
Glad it was helpful!
Great points! I’ll watch this again before going to the OBX next week!
Thanks for watching and I wish you the best of luck!
Awesome video. Thanks for this I learnt a lot. Just bought myself a new 12ft rod and this video has given me some great insight into casting. I have slowly moved from 7ft - 10ft and now trying out a 12ft. Keep up the great content.
Great video! Please elaborate how tightening the drag will help if the bail is open?
Drag is still functional with the bail open. Easy way to understand what I mean is lighten your drag and put a light weight on and just go throw a slow casting motion with the bail open but don’t release the line and you’ll feel the drag slip. Go slow and lightweight so you don’t cut yourself with the braid testing this out.
Thanks for the video I just picked up a 9 foot penn wrath combo gonna be putting this into practice its definitely alot more rod than the 7 footers I'm used to slinging baits with
Start slow, gradually build up speed, and you’ll be slinging baits way out in no time. Thanks for watching!
The set up you lot use over there is totally different to what we use in Ireland. We'd typically use 12-16ft rods throwing 4-8 oz leads
We get really calm waters a lot of days along the Alabama Gulf Coast. Some days if Im fishing really close to the beach I’ll a use a 9ft rod with a 1oz weight. Thanks for watching!
@@G2COASTAL I just find it interesting how it's done elsewhere, hopefully some day I'll get to wet a line on the other side of the Atlantic.
Thanks for the videos, I can't imagine the patience it takes to record, edit and share them
@@Jason-im3pz its crazy how different we do it here on the Gulf Coast compared to the Atlantic and Pacific Coasts. I have friends on the Atlantic Coast who can’t believe we use such light gear here. I really appreciate you watching because it is a lot of time and effort put into each video and sometimes they flop and nobody watches, but it is what it is.
@@G2COASTAL I like to use a tapered, Shock Leader combat some of that pressure on the line and cut's myself? TEXAS STYLE FISHING BABY 🇨🇱 You need to come fish Red-fishing with us @ Surf Side Jettie's ✌🏾Awesome Video Bro .!!
That's how we fish in the San Francisco Bay
Thanks for the instructive tutorial.
Perhaps I missed hearing it...
although you did say you were using
a Penn Battle II, I didn't hear you say
what SIZE Spinning Reel "you" are using here. Not did I hear what length Spinning Rod "you" were using here. Obviously, you
don't want a whopper heavy reel that isn't balanced to the Rod. Hope you'll share
your specifics. And, lastly maybe it was
just me, but when you positioned your
Spinning Rod parallel to you ...just before
your forward motion cast, was your Spinning Reel Bail Open & were you using
your hand's forefinger to hold the line just before you executed your cast? Or did you
Open your bail up during the early seconds of the forward cast? Thanks.
Well done nice and simple . Fan from Australia
Thank you!
Great video! Another alternative that most of us Cape Cod Canal fisherman use for finger protection is hockey tape or medical tape. Cheap and effective. Also thinner braid will improve distance but if you are fishing rocky areas I suggest thicker braid.
Great info!
Just watched your '100 yard' surf casting video and enjoyed it. You covered alot of ground. Hard to do in a quick lesson. You probably have many years of power casting. So do I. My comments come from 2 tips I have learned and use. 1) The 10 to 1 rule/ ratio. For a 2 oz. Pyramid use 20 lb. line (mono or braid). For 3 oz. lead us 30 lb. line and on and on. When putting the muscles into it a 'SNAP OFF' can be the most dangerous thing around surf casting. Maybe some viewers aren't ready for 'shock leader class' but I always use the 10 to 1 rule. Last but not least' finally. On the ready...set.... go on the cast. I use the ready...set...check the weigh, little pendulum swing away from you......go. Starts the rod loading up even before your swing. With all that being said you probably can out cast me on my best day which was like 30 years ago.
In Europe we use the same technique for casting carp rods (12') . I did not understand why tightening the drag when the bail arm is up, there is nothing moving in the reel. In heavy feeder fishing which in terms of the rig is similar, we use so-called shock leader which goes twice the length of the rod, from the hook to the reel. This prevents line snapping in power casting. I don't know if this could be applied to the surf fishing. Anyways thank you for sharing your knowledge.
The drag is always active even when the bail is open or closed because the drag is independent and isn’t connected to the bail arm. If the drag is set light and you cast a heavy weight you’ll feel the line slip across your finger and I learned the hard way I got a nice deep cut from the braid slipping across my finger. And yes several people use shock leaders for surf fishing here I just don’t need one for my style of fishing. Thanks for watching!!!
Thank you for clarifying @@G2COASTAL
Didn't know about tightening the drag. Thanks.. When speaking about line; I'll spool 125 yds. of braid on a new reel, then cut it and rejoin w/ double Uni knot, then add another 125 yds. When it needs replacing, I cut the line at the Uni knot and add 125 yds. of new line. It saves on time and money.. plus it keeps the spool full of new line.
Yes I use the double uni to add new line as well. Sometimes I let it get a bit low though haha
Very good information thank you I’m going to try it this weekend
Best of luck!
great instructional video, thanks for the detailed info..
Very welcome!
Great Video! I have yet to cast for the first time. I have acquired a conventional Penn Long Beach Reel and purchased a telescopic 6' suitcase rod since I travel and currently down in Puerto Vallarta. I feel sure a lot of your info will help me even with a conventional reel. Will let you know how it turns out next week when the rod arrives from Amazon. Muchas Gracias!
Good luck!
@@G2COASTAL I returned the telescopic rod it was just too flimsy!
I was starting with the rod a lot lower and giving a little bounce before casting. I thought this was helping but still could not get the distance I wanted. I followed your tips and just started with the rod parallel and dead still and was finally able to get behind the surf zone. I don't know how much more distance I really got, but the cast felt more energetic. I still just need to find a glove or something that'll work for the line release.
Great video & tips for all of us. It's good you mentioned rod height & person's height. Like all things you do improve with practice following your tips. What's your thoughts on casting cannon triggers bait launchers, etc. A friend recommended it to me. Thanks
A cheap alternative to the casting-glove is a 3 inch piece of bicycle inner tube. Any local bike shop has a few blown tubes in the trash. One of them is a lifetime supply.
Excellent idea!
Awesome sub My thought is not effecting or infecting the rig with tire/foreign smell. Could effect hits if you mix it up? Just separate smells/handling equip landing one.
AND thanks for the tip on horizontal and pull when you chuck rod. Could have used that in Australia 25 year ago as green horn Canadian surf caster (guess still am) that was a 16 foot one piece with Alvey baker light reel from a pond shop was budget tourist. Lots of small brown shark in the north but one at 6 feet. F'd me up. 75ish minutes later, measure, release...
Great video watched it several times.
Thank you!
I'm a 5'5 160 pound chick. I've always loved fishing but really starting going fishing these past couple years. Also don't have many chances to go having a 4 year old lol but this vid is really helpful. I use a 8 foot right now and can cast a decent length but feel like I should be going more. Was thinking about trying a ten foot rod out. I do the drag technique and line the reel like you do. Put the motion part I feel would help me a lot. I don't put the pole parallel. So definitely going to try that. And I've been using 4 ounce pyramid so I'm going to see if the 3 ounce helps me out. Thanks for the advice
that was simple and honest and actually does work like that. I do surfcasting for 10 years and let me add one thing. It Is more about the precision that about the distance. Is more about the precision point where you will cast and where the fish is actually and actively looking for food then casting at the most distance we can. I confess that 90% of the fish I catch was caught between 15 m and 80 meters distance. Sorry about use the metric system as this is what we use in Portugal 😏
100% agree location of where the fish are is more important than distance!
Great video. Like someone said earlier- check out the rod "lure" weight ratings. I can cast a 3oz sinker with bloodworms far as heck. Now if Im using a whole surf clam or a big chunk of bunker- my casting distance is incredibly reduced. Single dropper loop rigs tend to get out waay farther than a fishfinder rig.
Yes the key to finding what works is trying multiple combinations until you find that sweet spot your rod likes!
I'm starting out surf fishing this year. I didn't know you had to work the drag adjustment every cast. I'm using lures only, no bait
No need to adjust the drag when throwing lures. Tightening the drag all the way down just keeps it from slipping when throwing 3oz or heavier sinkers and will also keep you from getting cut by the braid when using heavier sinkers.
In the uk you have to use a shock leader of 70lb line to stop your lead breaking off during the cast as most times you need 5 or 6 oz leads when the sea is pulling hard If you get the chance you must do some beach fishing over here
We are spoiled in Alabama because we can get by with very little sinker weight. Along the East and West coasts they typically have to beef up their gear due to much stronger seas. I would love to get over to the UK and fish but I don’t know if that will happen, I’ll keep dreaming about though!
@@G2COASTAL I fish the North Sea and the tide is pulling hard you have to cast up the beach so gripper lead holds in the sand at a place called Scarborough the tide runs at 6 metres and pull your lead back under your feet
@@notmissingout9369 now thats some tidal movement! We have a couple passes where the water leaves inland that get some pretty strong flows but not that strong.
I find the reel to butt distance more useful for picking a rod than the rod length itself. I can open a 12ft to a distance of 98m. 15.5ft gets me a further 4m. Same reel changed over. Both with no. 3 bombs and both rods matching cast weights. Smaller butt on 15.5ft. So why not use the smaller one? Bigger one just holds line proud of breaking waves. Great video. Not everyone mentions leverage. Another thing i do is use flouro instead of braid. I also wax the lip on the reel and the eyes on the rod. Car wax seems to work best. Rub on and off. Smooth as silk. Flouro just a head wrecker for knots so i also just use a single hook mono rig. Im a headcase for distance. No idea why. lol. 25lb flouro and 15lb mono rig.
I 100% support a shorter rod if it can reach where you need to be. I tell people all the time if I could use a 7ft rod thats all I’d use. I’ll definitely try the wax hack!
Great vid. I lived in spain for a while and they use very long rods with special reels which i cant remember the name off but the poibt is. They chucked their bat really far while i couldnt with my 8 foot rod, but at the end if the day i cought more fish. The key was hook type. They used J hooks and i circle hooks. Its very hard to the a hook with a 15 foot rod sitting in a sand spike. All i had to do when the bite came was to reel in while the rod was in the spike.😂 Its a interesting way they fish so if you have time do a YT search on pesca de playa españa.
Thank you! I’ll definitely check it out!
Very good video! So you don't throw straight overhead but you move the rod around a bit I a curve as well? Thanks
Great informational video👍👍 I learned those use a glove and tighten your drag tips the hard way.
Thank you! I might have cut myself a couple times but I’ll never tell hahaha.
Back in the 80’s I saw a casting demonstration from the world casting champion! He was from South Africa! He used a 12 foot custom rod with a big reel filled to max ! He used a 40 lb shock leader and a 3 Oz weight! He used a push away pendulum motion that allows him to twist the rod completely behind him and then he swings the rod all the way around his back in a side arm motion! His video showed them at Cape Hatteras and he threw the line down the beach ! They had to drive down to the weight! He was averaging 150 to 175 yards! Honest ! Oh and he had a rubber covering on his index finger that held the line ! Wish I could remember his name!
Its truly amazing how far some people can cast with they have everything down to a science!
Thank you. That was very educational. Where do you buy that glove. I have never seen one in Texas. Of course they are big on bait casters here but I like spinning reels.
I found it online somewhere but I can’t remember exactly where.
Your doing things right for long casts, great display ! I use 13 fters and 15 fters 4 oz to 5 oz Pyrimid weights 25lb to 30lb 8 braid as it is round. If your right handed use your left as a Driver pushing down as you cast, I put extra weight on my butt section to make things easier to get that pendulum effect. I was a custom rod builder for 22 years and modified my 13 fters for long cast Letting your line flow free off the spool with no retrictions is very important. I raised the first big guide by a foot to let the line flow easier and moved the other 9 guides accordingly.
I hope this will helps someone who wants too long cast.
You forgot to mention the golden rule. . . Your lead must not be more than Your mono/braid strength ie 20lb fluorocarbon, mono, braid- 2oz lead . . 30lb Lines 3oz leads. . And so on .! Always be safe for you and anyone near you when casting ! ! ! Tight Lines Mate 👍🎣🎣
@@kriscuthbert9671 I totaly agree with you ! When i use 20 lb braid , I use 25 or 30 lb 36 to 40" mono leader. I'm 80 and have never hooked anyone, safety is priority. Did bass fishing for 20 years and I think you know what that is like. Learned long casting 4 years ago, You Sir ' are doing things right.
brilliant for the beginner or the know all .. 😊
very well done mate
good fishing to ya
Glad you enjoyed it
Decided to go with a 11 foot rod, I am not new to fishing but bit new to surf fishing. I have a 7 foot pole at the moment but decided a 11 foot may cast out better with a 4500-5000 spinning reel.
I don't get the part where he puts the drag all the way down, what kind of difference does it do when the bail is open anyways while casting? Does the spool start to turn and thus ruining the loops coming off?
He did talk about it but I'm dumb so I just don't fully understand it
Great video. Thoughts on the casting cannons?
My man thx for the tutorial i know i am late here but now i can throw way better then before
Awesome!
Nice reel, gotta love Penn. Have you tried their SF VI Long Cast reel, yet? I got one last year and I love it. Larger diameter, shallow spool. Line screams off it, and less drag on averag from the lip. Takes less to fill up compared to same size reels too.
Great video, thanks. Is that a glove with other 4 fingers removed or one specifically made for casting?
Thank you! Look up casting glove and you’ll have several options come up.
Great fishing tips
Thank you!
what brand of casting glove are you using?
Daiwa is the brand I have.
I went surf fishing for the first time and was using bigger Penn setups. I couldn't get 50 feet out and all kept going far to the right at 45 degree angle or more. What did I do wrong?
Probably releasing the line too early. When you release the line try to point to where you want the line to go. It takes some practice to get the feel down for it.
Looking at a 12’ to go from my 10’ heavy. What rod specs would you recommend for optimal casting at that length? Medium / medium heavy? Moderate Fast? Etc… generally throwing a 2-3oz rig cast and retrieve for Stipers in MD
If you’re mostly throwing 2-3oz a medium rod will probably suit your needs but if you need to bump up to 4-5oz at times make sure your rod is rated for those weights. As far as action goes Ive always been a fan of fast action rods especially when throwing lures. Better sensitivity and not “soft” feeling like a slow action rod.
I want to know that what type of rod and reel is better for beach surf
My bomber set-up is a 10ft conventional with 4oz Sputnik + bait. Once I get into the 11-13ft it's just too long for me.. like you said, it's all about what fits the person using it....
Yeah a lot of people don’t realize you can only handle a rod so big before it just overpowers you and is no longer beneficial.
The reason why you feel like the larger rod is too big for you is because the reel seat is in the wrong position for your body. If the rod was built for your body, then you could throw a 12' rod no problem.
Hi. Planning to start surf cast. Most informative video I found so far. 12/13 foot rod e ough for beginners?
Awesome tutorial. Really appreciate it. I have a number of surf rods ranging from 10 to 15 foot. Haven’t had much opportunity to cast them. Hopefully I’ll get some practice this season if the weather and my lower back cooperates. 👍🏾💯
Best of luck!
@@G2COASTAL thank you. I appreciate that. 👍🏾👍🏾
At 49, I had a muscle related back issue. Dr. told me to lay on the floor and use my stomach muscles to force my lower back against the floor, until the gap in by lower back is gone, hold for a 20 count... 20 reps everyday. Like anything worth doing, it requires discipline, three weeks later and the lower back problems were gone forever.. I'm now 69.
I use a trigger on my rod amd throw 12 ounce weights on my 14 ft meat hunter surf rod amd no way anyone is casting a 100 yards fsct
If i do a “pendulum” can reach 190 yards
What beach are you fishing buddy? Is that NC?
Learned a couple things from this video thank u
one thing i need to know is at wgat point in the swing do you release the line with your finger for maximum distance..11, 12 or 1 o clock?
Every rod will load a little different and that sweet spot will be somewhere around 1 o clock usually. You’ll find if you release too early you’ll cast high, too late and you’ll throw a line drive.
What size reels do you typically use ?
Can’t wait to try these techniques. Thank you
The weight you throw is determined by the rating of the rod! They will say the casting weight on the rod, typicly on a beach caster say 4-8 oz! Remembering the weight of the rig and bait , stay inside the recommended weights and you will work the rod as much as possible.
I’ll look into it!
What size reel should I use for surf fishing?
Can you recommend a decent starter 10 foot surf rod in the 150 dollar max range. (I got some reels just interested in the surf rod).
Check out Star rods, specifically the Stellar rod. Very good rod in your price range.
At what point do you release your finger off of the line?
Thats actually a really hard thing to nail down because each model of rod will have a sweet spot and even changing the size of your sinker will alter the sweet spot slightly. If your casts are going high then you’re releasing too early, if your casts are low and close to the water then you’re releasing too late. It really comes down to the individual learning the feel of the rod they are using. The difference between a good cast and a not so good cast is a fraction of a second .
this is good but nobody is talking about the finger holding the line. It does not look like you are pressing the line to the rod. How are you keeping it from slipping out?
I do not hold the line against the rod, it feels weird to me. I place the line in the middle of the tip of my pointer finger and the pressure from the sinker and motion of the cast puts enough force on the line that it will stay pinned to your finger.
Do you utilize a shock leader? I was recently in the outer banks and casting 6oz with 30lb power pro and had repeated line breaks on the cast. I’m thinking i need to add a shock leader for the heavier weight
I don’t use a shock leader with my spinning gear but I rarely use anything bigger than 3oz sputniks. I have some buddies who fish the Outer Banks and they always use a shock leader with their conventional reels. A shock leader or maybe 40lb braid may be the answer for you.
What rod are you using? Great video
Lot of great tips!
Thanks man!
my rod got a cw =100-250 grams
If i used a 60 g weight would that not activate the tip of the rod ( it won't bend enough for a distant cast ) ?
We used to use 12ft rods 20 years ago in UK 🇬🇧. Newer technology means we can now use very light but powerful carbon composite rods of up to 15ft now to allow effortless casting of over 100 yards easy. Light low diameter mono with shock leaders of at least 10lb per ounce of sinker . Our tides are mental so usually 5-6oz grip leads and 70lb leader. Am sure the continental rods we use would be more than suitable for your fishing.
Always cool to hear about gear used in other parts of the world!
I’m new to surf fishing. I used this yesterday and got long targeted throws. I was amazed since “clutz” is my middle name ;)
Hahaha glad it worked out for you!
What’s the rod you’re using for the demo ?
It was a Rod Hutchison 12ft Sceptre. Made for Carp fishing but great for the surf as well. Only issue I had was since they are designed for freshwater they just didn’t last longer than a year.
Thank for your reply
Good day !
And be safe.
What rod are you using in the video?
Thanks for the great video. I like the push/pull technique you mentioned. I have a question though. How does drag on/off come into play when the bail is open anyway? Doesn't the bail being open basically equate to there being zero drag set? Thanks
Thanks for watching!
The drag still functions even with an open bail because its completely independent from the bail. Next time you have a rod in your hand loop your finger around the line like you’re getting ready to cast, open the bail, and with your other hand pull your line and you’ll see the drag is still functioning and allows line out. Your finger basically become the bail during the cast if that makes sense.
Hope that clears it up a bit for you.
@@G2COASTAL And if your drag is loose the line can slip while casting before you let your finger off the line and cut you to the bone...... that's why you tighten the drag to avoid that happening..... cheers
What rod are u using in this vid and what length
At what point do you release the line? How far down does the rod go?? Thanks for a great vidro.
Imagine a clock, 3 is directly in front of you, 12 is straight above you, 6 is straight behind. Try to release the line between 12 and 1 for most rods. Release too soon and it will go up, too late and you’ll throw a line drive straight out, its something you’ll figure out once you get the feel for it. You can let the rod go down as far as you want after the cast, just don’t let it slam into the sand and you’ll be good.
@@G2COASTAL thanks thats really helpful
What kind of fishing rod is that?
A 12ft Rod Hutchison Sceptre rod. Made for carp fishing but I loved the action it had for Pompano. Great rod but doesn’t hold up to the saltwater after about a year.
You get straight to the point I wish you was my math teacher when I was in high school maybe I would have done a lot better
Hahaha if I was your math teacher we would both still be in school trying to figure out how to add!
@@G2COASTAL 🤣🤣🤣 man you a fool. May God keep blessing you and your family
@@antwanjones679 thank you!
Great tips!
Thanks man!
I see your main line is braid and your leaders look like mono? What lb test is your leader?
90% of the time I’m using 20lb for my leaders. Whiting rigs I’ll drop down to 10lb sometimes and if Im specifically targeting Drum I’ll jump up to 30lb leaders.
Nice explanation but maybe have a look at the South African sage assasin Hxl low mount surf casting rods , the low mount means it changes your casting style but it seriously works , I use 33lb Japanese super light casting braid probably the same thickness as normal 20lb braid , the hz has a casting cannon trigger to hold the line prior to release and the rod I use is rated for a 6 ounce sinker and 1 or 2 ounce bait , the rod is 15 foot long and without pendulum casting will easily punch a bait out 130 to 150 meters and even punch out 100 meters into a 25 knot headwind , the sinker and bait will be streamlined using a impact clip rig where the bait sits behing the 6 ounce sinker and not parachute behind the weight this is serious casting equipment
I’ll definitely check it out! Thanks for the info!
What kinda glove do you use ?
I believe that glove was a Daiwa casting glove in the video.
Very good video I couldn't see when u released the finger
Point to where you want to release the line. Its tricky to say when to exactly release it, lots of practice and feel for it.
Very helpful thanks a lot for your help.
Good info. Thanks!👍
Thank you!
Very good presentation. However, I would have liked to see your line and bait after the cast.
Was there game of beach volleyball behind the camera? 😉