Samsung, STOP CHEATING - S95B QD-OLED
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Will the TVs live up to the QD OLED hype? The first one is here, and it looks great but is Samsung fluffing up their numbers a little bit on the S95B?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Why, Samsung?!?!
1:02 The Samsung scandal
3:23 How do you turn this off?
4:30 I/O
4:58 Samsung's TV interface sucks lol
6:03 Update!
6:39 This TV looks great
8:59 Audio is pretty good too
10:33 Does Samsung get a pass?
10:45 Gaming
14:38 Final Thoughts - Наука та технологія
I might want the crazy display tech, but I will never buy something with a menu system that bad. I want no autoplay (especially with audio), so ads, no banners, no menus changing themselves. Realistically I don't think I'll ever buy a TV again at this rate. A monitor with a media PC is so much better at this point...
Yep. I watch all my content on my Z fold 3 or on my MacBook Pro.
Realistically the best thing you can do is buy a smart TV and exclusively use it as a dumb tv
I have the same problem picking a media player for my projector. Android TV devices are really tempting for their wide app support but they're stuffed full of ads so I'm really not seeing any better option than my Chinese Amlogic box with Kodi.
@Bzake it got worse last 3 years..
Just buy a shield or something. And use the TV as a monitor.
Thanks Linus & the LTT team for the shoutout! As stated at 6:04 in this video, Samsung has released firmware update 1211 for the S95B, which restored the accuracy in HDR [Filmmaker Mode] regardless of measured window size.
The same one they addressed in the middle of the video, or a newer one?
Damn Rat Linus just got owned and paid again this time by LG to talk bad about the so far Ultimate TV
@@juliet.cybergirl1202 Bruh did you hear this review? They spent half of it talking about how incredible the TV was. LG bots being paid OT for this one.
Now if only they could address the shitty UI
@@spacebound1969 man u simp for samsung so hard.
As a general rule: All UI designers should have to allow their mothers to try and use what they just designed. Failing ease of use; no more of moms baked apple pie and ice-cream for life.
granted, but the sad reality is, there's rarely a UI designer in the mix implementing the UI. After all, "that's what the developer's for"
@@YonoZekenZoid Even so, get ya grandma tryna use that remote. if it has more than 4 buttons she usually doesn't know which one is for channels and which one is for volume....
@@alinutzalin6346 oh, I don't disagree with the OP's sentiment. my point is, there usually isn't a designer in the mix to begin with, and us developers aren't known for putting two buttons (or colours) together in any usable fashion
I'm in school for UI/UX and I actually do that! It's really good practice to get feedback from people who aren't super techy.
@@yoissy If you ever want to see a truly horrible UI, look no further than Telus Optik TV. I think the designers had a challenge to see just how many extra clicks they could build into the most basic features.
OLED, QLED, QD-OLED.... yeah I'm not confused at all 😅
Customers making informed decisions is not really what marketing people want...
there was U-LED too from Hisense (or someone else) which was just another moniker for an LED TV.
All the terms are misleading. Samsung QLEDs for example are not true QLED tvs. Same as LG's "QNED" tvs. They're all LCD based tvs but companies find a way to make their tvs sound fancy.
OLED - Organic Light Emitting Diode
QLED - Quantum (Dot) Light Emitting Diode
QD-OLED Quantum Dot Organic Light Emitting Diode.
I had the same questions but I searchead it on youtube videos. It is not as hard as lt seems. But it might take you some searching effort to understand it.
Would have been nice to see more focus on just how bad the Samsung menus are. Especially how egregious their forcing ads into the menu and their overall data collection practices. If you track all the network calls their TVs make, you'll see how concerning it is.
And there is no opt out for the ads. They are just there. I actually overhauled my network to include a PiHole because of them. And the TV is the single highest device blocked out of over 15 device on my network.
Imagine the PiHole burns down because it can't handle all the ads
That... that's stupid that you had to, but glad you're clever enough to know how to.
@@allenellisdewitt the pihole is relatively simple to set up iirc
@@bluezz5002 It is, but the fact it's even necessary to deploy a PiHole just so you can use a TV properly is borderline criminal. A lot of the processing power is used up on downloading and displaying ads in the menu.
I use PFblocker and most of the blocks are due to two Samsung TVs…
Samsung’s UI team needs some very, very tough love. Start at the top with whomever green-lit this hot-ass mess and go from there.
The Samsung UI is what made me finally buy a Logitech Harmony remote.
@@Thermalions sucks that Logitech isn’t making it anymore. At this point I just calibrate my TV once, and then control it via HDMI-CEC with my Apple TV (the newest one with the actually good remote). Still, I have LG TV’s right now instead of Samsung (on purpose), and my next TV’s will be Sony.
They're probably out sourcing their UI design.
@@monomyths Never buy Samsung TV's. I have a regular 65 inch 4k TV from Samsung and its garbage. The UI is even worse than this one. My 8 year old HD Sony TV still feels superior to that piece of shit.
their phones are even worse. bloated af.
This highlights so many issues I have with TVs right now. STOP TRYING TO PREDICT WHAT I WANT. Automatically switching my input, changing my viewing mode, automatically playing content, and hiding manual settings. I just want a display, that is it. I already have a chromecast 4k and ps4 that both play all my content better than the tv itself does.
Edit: I will add that this is happening simultaneously while TVs have never looked better, even budget models can look pretty good comparatively to past experiences. I am just not a customer for smart functions as someone with multiple media devices to run content.
As someone who owns this tv, and went straight from a basic UI 7 year old LG, the interface on this tv is the only drawback, the screen is incredible, but every time i want to switch between devices it takes a whole journey through menu screens. However, as i said the TV screen is amazing, and the speakers too. So despite the issues with the OS i would still definitely recommend it if you have the money to afford it.
Smart TVs in general could really use some UI streamlining but that's gotta be the worst I've seen. It's like manufactures are trying to boost geek squad home consultation revenue.
My yahoo apps TV is better than that thing.
Unless the UI is drastically different than my less than a year old Samsung TV, their experience is like a Windows 10 user using an Apple interface for the first time.
If they just slap googleTV in it it'll be great...
Smart TVs could really use to be dumb imho.
@@RocketboyX exactly.. I have tried them all the Samsung UI by far the best I feel.
it's a shame that this amazing technology is so held back by this horrendous software and remote... so unintuitive
true. I take a PC from 2010 and it is a better medias center -_-
why do you need to mess around with a tv screen? just turn it on and watch whatever the hell it is you need to watch. nothing else to do
Pure Garbage !
@@Ladioz Calibration, maybe change the mode depending on what you are doing, changing input if you have multiple input sources, turn off any BS settings if it has any turned on.
@@Ladioz just like how people dont buy a porsche and drive it like a corolla. you bought this thing looking for peak performance, not showroom floor performance.
You have admirable integrity for the indecent age we live in. You could have kept quiet like the others, but you didn't. Samsung could have sponsored you too, but you didn't mind losing money. Thank you for your courage. I hope you will be an example to others. Greetings from Istanbul.
Bought a 77" LG C1 last Black Friday and never looked back. Freaking loving it for mixed usage and gaming.
Yes, LG owns TV market.
Same but mine is the 65 inch, but my phone which is an oled samsung note 20 ultra looks much better than my lg c1 tv due to 1,000 nits brightness.
Couldn't stand the dimming in dark scenes, I only tolerated it in the bright white scenes.
@@diocub4022 the s95b is like a 65 inch note ultra. love mine
@@diocub4022 then why keep it?Just sell your tv😅😆
I want to see a video comparing a bunch of different tv's menu systems and just how horrible they all are. At this point I'll give up picture quality and features just to get something that isn't so painful to use.
I got a Philips tv back in 2017-18 and I’ve loved it’s menus. Intuitive and simple to use. Along with a really nice and responsive remote that can be used in any direction and when you turn it over, it reveals a keyboard.
I think it’s the PUT6000 series. Not sure tho
Issues I’ve had with it are that it’s a bit slow for my taste (but tbh it’s the first smart tv I’ve ever used), wasn’t bright enough so I had to tweak the settings a lot to get somewhat usable brightness but certain colours are super washed out.
And after a few years of usage, a rather annoying issue has popped up. It’s got a lot of bright circles all over the screen.
@@olie424 That's the "filter discs" for the LED Backlight falling off. It's not difficult to open it up, and superglue them back on. Did it with mine.
There's a girl on tiktok that reviews ux
LG probably has the best menu I have encountered
This. I want this review and a review of using PC monitors as TVs.
03:13 It gets an accurate image to calibrate because on those specific phones, they know EXACTLY what the calibration profile of the phone camera itself is, so therefor they can tell exactly what colors it's seeing on the TV.
Precisely
Exactly. Seems so obvious that I was surprised that Linus would say that. It does mean that those phones have very consistent cameras.
I wish it didn'ty work with Samsung tv's only
Well... those cameras are essentially made by Samsung themselves either ways no surprises they knw the exact calibration profile
For all the red and yellow highlights QD advances in, I think the brown color advances too, especially because manufacturers have this meticulous goal to make TVs thin as possible
Loved that subtle "good news everyone!" Futurama reference 😃 Nice 👍
Shout out to Vincent Teoh for going the extra mile with his work. Tons of respect for the guy.
Dude always slips come comedy into his review, as well. Great channel.
I agree, he has great content for people wanting to buy TVs. Digital trends is good 2
Vincent is the King of TV channels. 👍
@@rickypelletier363 Digital Trends is a mainstream channel.
HDTVTest is an enthusiast channel.
Big difference.
100% agreed. I've been using HDTV Test as one of the primary sources of actually useful data on TVs since at least 2010, and they've been a part of every TV purchase I've been involved with since I found out a bout them. I say "they" because I'm not sure whether or not other people were working on the website back then too, just covering bases.
The color accuracy issue is scummy but in day to day probably wouldn't bother me as much.
The UI on the other hand is an atrocity. I had the displeasure of using it on a 7 series Samsung and shudder every time I think about it. Going to stick with my LG CX until we see gen 2 qd-OLED and prices drop, but I refuse to suffer through Samsungs UI.
This reminds me of Volkswagen car scandal where Volkswagen programed there cars to cheat on emissions test to pass always🤣🤣
Samsung ui is freaking painful
I’m excited for the Sony tv with this panel, should be amazing
Really? I the lg one looks the same to me.. Atleast the newest version.. Of the os
I have a Samsung Q70R and I'm at a loss at how they've screwed up their menu. What I have is so easy and smooth to navigate. Other than the menus, looks like an amazing panel.
Awesome video I do like the Samsung remote, the ui did take a few extra minutes to get the hang of it.
I love the reviews Linus, I love even more that at 10:33 Destiny 2 is in the background. The fact that you play it on the TV for review was funny as well but I do enjoy this review very much to see you reactions.
I would be excited if we could get displays like these without any built in computers, aka "smart". I'm interested in a quality display, not a built in computer giving me features I don't want that will eventually stop receiving updates and turn into a zombie in a bot farm.
Right? I haven't bought a new TV in about 8 years, in large part because every time I've interacted with a smart tv it's been absolutely awful. My parents have one and I've had to give them written instructions for even basic functionality. Why is it so hard to have an input selector, a couple of color modes, and a couple other less important settings? That's literally all I need. I don't want to run the various streaming apps, they all suck too, just let me connect to my media PC and move on
LG has them, they're taking their tv and strip down all the tv bloats and rebrand them as a gaming monitor
Unfortunately, it's one of those things which basically became a "must have feature". Doesn't matter how it's implemented, the goal is to tick that "smart TV" checkbox. The TV "industry" is absolutely insane in the fact that the marketing is literally more important to them than the product itself. They'll screw it up completely if it means it'll look better on paper.
Vincent may have the driest humor in this solar-system, but once you get used to that, you will love his pure display-competence stuff. Happy to see him mentioned here.
I love his no-nonsense presentation, and his dry presentation of dumb innuendo plus the subsequent ding kills me every time.
Dry because he’s British.
Dry? I find them hilarious. Lol
@@lamefart8831 Dry is a style, akin to "deadpan." Which Vincent definitely is. It has nothing to do with "not funny."
@@LoopyChew gotcha. Sorry, English isn't my first language and only based it on context by the op, which evidently I was wrong, but I understand deadpan though. 😅
Just bought a 55 LG C1 for less than half the recommended retail, might look at this sort of TV in 2-3 years
& now you understand my frustrations with our bedroom Samsung TV ..... Between the stupid menu, complete lack of backlight on the remote & the constant internet disconnect ... even while hardlined. I've come scary close to launching the remote right thru the screen on several occasions.
I love how I’m like “wow that looks good” even though I’m watching it on my phone’s display through a recording from a camera 😂
HDR10, Dolby Vision.. in reality Bluray even DVD looks better than what streaming services can output. For example white reflections in people's eyes that shine like lasers feel stupid vs. normal non-HDR but high bitrate.
Don't forget about that "wow that sounds good" moments 😉
Looks great on a 5” screen from last generation
That's how I felt today. I went in-person to a tv store and was amazed by the tvs.
@@cubertmiso But Netflix has been putting out shows with Dolby vision recently? e.g. Stranger Things 4
The sad thing is Samsung doesn't need to cheat. They are a decent company but this makes you feel like they have been lying about their past reputation too now.
How about exploding batteries, Washing machines rusted out in 3 years and stealing patent information and design from Apple. Very few companies are decent just some survive recalls and lawsuits.
@@Tidbitkid Don't forget about the cancer their employees got from working in their semiconductor factories.
@@Tidbitkid can you mention the source of your information because I don't know which patent they have stolen
@@Tidbitkid You summed up every big corporation there is .
They sold me a TV and then 9 months later released a firmware upgrade that injected adverts into the UI. They are not a decent company, it's no wonder their CEO is in prison for bribery.
I have a Bose 700 speaker bar with the surround speakers and the 700 sub…dialogue is perfect even in loud scenes. It amazes me how great the sound is on that set.
You can set the display on Filmmaker mode, dynamic and etc by exiting out when it syncing the device for one remote or Edit the device to game console instead of PC by going to connect device/source go to the device there should be an arrow that is pointing up and edit. Hope this Help!
Forget the color discrepancies - that menu is a deal-breaker!
Not at all you would take a better menu with a worse picture
@@NexGenTek Absolutely, no questions about it. I'm not spending 30 seconds every time I want to change the source, or spending 5 minutes scouring menus to try to dim the brightness so it stops searing my eyes at night. The menu is absolutely more important then it being 5% more color accurate.
@@Tommy50377 That's idiotic but to each there own I'll take the better picture
@@NexGenTek id take less overblown colors and a better menu option over this garbo any day
@@Tommy50377 This is not "5% more color accurate" or whatever. This TV is literally next gen upgrade, you can read it in all reviews, tons of impressions here on UA-cam as well. Now if something as superfluous as slightly annoying menu is a deal breaker to you, then go look at other TVs, plenty of alternatives out there. People who actually are in the market for best of the best picture quality will laugh at these menu complaints, because if you are fed up with crappy displays in past 2 decades, you would give anything to make content you are watching look pristine. Slightly annoying menu is like non-issue in the grand scheme of things.
When comparing the pricing I'd mention that the Alienware Monitor equivalent is "only" $1,300.
Still premium, but easier to swing.
You didn't mention some caveats. Dell monitor is only sold through their website (can only order if you live in a handful of countries) and waiting times are like half a year+. Also I read about lots of QC issues with that Dell monitor. QN95B you can buy right now and 55" isn't THAT much more expensive than Dell's monitor.
@@Glotttis Depends on what country you live in. In sweden it can be bought through regular stores.
Tho neither dell nor the regular stores has it in stock atm.
@@Glotttis For me, even though I do not watch Tv, only UA-cam and game. It wouldn't be so much about QC, but QoL. If I have to spend more time sorting problems out than it takes to install a game, then it is not a intuitive, smooth piece of tech to use. On the oppose end of the spectrum, for those that are not like me, that might be the perfect product for them.
Recently got a QN90A (2021 QLED Model, 75"), and I overall like the UI. From the looks I've seen, I like it better than the 2022 version. Yeah, there are some things in weird spots, but overall, it's replaced my HTPC most of the time.
However, there is still an Audio issue with DTS content and the Plex app. Audio dropping in and out is super frustrating, and not fix in site yet.
Thinking of getting the QN90A. Is this a good tv worth getting ?
5:41, i remember before galaxy tab a8.0 , it does the same thing when using mouse on UA-cam apps takes you back to the first video list when scrolling middle mouse ,
I wish more manufactures would deploy modern tech like this without the software
I miss dumb TVs, I literally have neve used a smart TVs apps in my life, the device I'm displaying on the TV already has them and is 99% of the time a better experience
Manufactures are subsiding the cost of each TV by selling your personal info, what you watch, search for, etc. TV's have gotten cheaper than what they were back in the day yet they keep getting better, the money has to come from somewhere. I just wish they'd charge what they need to charge to make money and make it a 'dumb' TV.
Big monitors is kinda that but big monitors is a small TV so
Once you know these three magical words you can buy all the dumb TVs you could ever desire. You just gotta know what to look for:
"Digital Signage Display"
They're basically dumb TVs that're used in stores, like at McDonalds to show the current menu.
They're designed to run 24/7 and can output extreme brightness because they have to remain legible in direct sunlight.
The downsides are the high price because you're not surrendering your personal info so you actually have to pay for the tech you use, and the image quality which is still good, but not as good as on something like this Samsung TV.
They also don't have speakers in many cases and you need an external device to feed them a signal, but you can just use an old computer like an Intel Nuc with KODI as the operating system. That way you can even install a bunch of emulators and stuff.
@@09f9 That's another way, sure. With DSDs you're paying for low production numbers and the previously mentioned high uptime design.
And you get those displays in sizes of 100+ inches if you have sufficiently deep pockets.
From what I've seen, the image quality is perfectly fine. We have a big showy wall of 6 Iiyama DSDs at work that's used to display live network stats.
During night shift, we've often hijacked one or two to play video games or watch movies on. I never thought them any worse than a regular low- to mid-tier consumer TV.
Personally, I'm not interested in some marginal picture quality improvement that I need highly specialized tests to detect.
These high end TVs are all just 8000 dollar marketing ploys in my opinion.
Sure it's better than one that costs 1000 or 2000, but is it four to eight times better?
When you get an Android TV you won't want to go back
Honestly I'd like a screen with a remote that has direct access buttons for every input.
Dear customer, sorry we cannot do that. Then you don't watch the ads. We cannot have that. Cheers! Your frendly TV Manufacturer CEO.
@@ArturoTabera i don't need a tv, just a display. Just tvs are easier and cheaper to get large and have more than one or 2 hdmi inputs (and have fun searching a pc monitor with composite or component inputs lol)
A 4k HDR dumb "tv" would be nice
You can configure it to do exactly that in the menu takes a little work but you can set it so 1 click of the menu button and the only options are the inputs or tv options. Just have to go through a few minutes and turn off some stuff.
@@a1racer441 but srsly wouldn't it be better to just not have to have it in there in the first place? It's wasted and the second problem is that tvs unlike phones are supposed to be used for a while. Having the smart section not included but as part of a module (like a fire tv or whatever but with a bit more integration) would be way better as that way that section could be upgraded
@@My1xT I agree I’m not saying I like the menu just that it can be done like that. Personally I don’t like the Home Screen setup and the menus are funky to use. But so far I have turned off the apps and made it so when tv turns on it goes straight to last input so less time messing around.
I personally think the picture quality is great though and in game mode a few adjustments fix a lot of issues.
I love how this channel makes others curious with their title but in the end everyone is satisfied great way of getting views ngl
I still have a 2019 QN32Q50R that i use as a secondary to my msi 274qrf-qd, double quantum dot displays and i love them both. having a 32" tv in my space fits very well and I'm glad they made the q60r with a 32" size, if they make these in 32" it'll be really really cool to see as so far, samsung is the only one with a 32" 4k option.
The problem is that Samsung is doing the juicing in the Filmmaker mode as well which is supposed to be a standard. Sure do whatever trickery you have to do in the standard mode but why mess with something that is supposed to be a standard.
@Codebreaker Not on any firmware prior to 1211, hence the point of the video about them cheating. And like you said, they’re still cheating in game mode
@@blueversace4447 Which is STILL BS!
A couple of points from someone who sells TVs, including Samsung:
Companies "cheat" on these tests because consumers with zero knowledge of how electronics work go online and look at Rtings or Consumer Reports and that is their be all and end all. They will buy whatever online reviews rate as "the best" without ever asking "is this actually what works best for me". So, companies cheat to be better on those tests because the bulk of consumers won't ask questions.
The second thing is I also hate the new UI. The ribbon menu of yesteryear was a bit clunky sometimes, but was simple to navigate and easy to find almost whatever you need. Thankfully some of their lower end models are carrying over with the old UI.
Third, if you hate the remote, and don't mind using your smart phone, the Smart Things remote option is a much better experience, including giving you a source button.
I currently own a Samsung QN800A (the entry 8K for 2021) and love it, but there are definitely some annoying design choices in both 2021 and 2022 models.
i service/sell samsung tvs among various other electronics, including LGs... i find it rather interesting how people find the samsung UI confusing while finding LG's friendly, and then the polar opposite finding samsung's menu easy to navigate effortless while finding LGs terrible.
Also i find it a little odd that Linus's group has intentionally enabled some of the absurd ads and such for samsung, something you can during setup, opt out of, and WAY too many people are clicking "agree to all" and hitting enter then complaining about ads in app.
While i don't have access currently to the new QD-OLED due to slow distribution, there is one thing CONSTANTLY overlooked by people, the fact that the models shipped to and sold are big box retail stores are NOT the same as direct from samsung distribution channels, and they never have been. Just like yamaha's products shipped to retail stores and direct distribution locations being actually named entirely different products (literally one of the few companies that give completely different modeling numbers to differentiate from their shit tier retail box products and direct distribution), and have completely different component and design characteristics. Obviously you're paying more from direct distribution sources almost always in the lower tier ranges, but often competition is fairly good at the upper mid range to top tier realms where you can get for example a TV for as cheap or cheaper than a retail box store is willing to go.
There are definitely some odd quirks in Samsung's menu system though, but having used the newest release of the UI, which looks identical on this tv short of the bloody ads linus is seeing which yet again i say, are opt in, Navigating is easy and i definitely don't get blanking. Finding the source options isn't technically limited to the "connected devices" but getting to connected devices is in some cases either. Samsung has built their ribbon to be customized which makes life so much easier, simply pin the sources you wish to your home row, along with your primary apps in the order you wish, and presto, a quick couple presses and you're into anything you want regardless of the device you set.
In the end, their experience with the menu is almost entirely due to newbie and unfamiliarity with a different UI. It's not counter intuitive, just something that you kinda slap your own forehead the moment how much of an idiot you were to be confused by it.
@@SpectrumTwist Well said . It’s sad even technically competent “nerds” couldn’t figure out there’s a lot of opting out you can do to give you a better experience.
But then again, impulsiveness doesn’t help anyone which linus has
To be fair, we all can’t be experts on every single thing we Purchase. We have to rely on specialists to review products for us.
I shouldn't need to be an expert to turn on a television and find a show to watch. They're just selling a trashy computer with a giant screen.
@@SpectrumTwist while you make a good point and being a geek myself I will follow the advice, but I'm sick of it, its inefficient, even working in the field it frustrates me by principle how fcking all over the place tech is getting.
Not really "cheating", was an engineering issue with plasmas as well. The amount of heat and energy created by having the entirety of the self emissive pixels on, is much more difficult to deal with than small bright details. In a way they have chosen to avoid losing fine detail brightness (ansi contrast), by allowing increased brightness that isn't viable with 100% white.
Great review, Can you do 1 thing ? The camera in the background. Can you put some black PVC tape over the red light .... please. It is such a trigger to the eyes
I will withhold my thoughts on that TV (and a general leaning in recent years around products) to just say how much respect is actually due towards LTT/LMG/Linus, that they have gotten to the point where can say ' I can see why they did not send us a review sample' . That is no mean feat. ( or feet, in sandals)
I have basically all the same menu issues, and source related issues with a Samsung 6 series TV at home - the problem is with that one is there are basically 2 of everything - 2 remotes, 2 settings menus, 2 ways to select source (one being select source, the other being the connected device menu seen here). The auto source switching has gotten so bad I actually leave my stuff (Xbox, connect PC) unplugged when I'm not around, just so my parents can actually watch cable on it without having to constantly unplug my stuff and replug it afterwards.
I remember a fancy digital framebuffer Sharp SVHS VCR. The remote folded open to give you a second set of functions.
@@SianaGearz I wish the samsung ones were that useful - one is a standard kind of remote, so no problem there, the second one is a 'smart' remote - I.E. it has 8 buttons, no instructions, and none of the features you kind of expect it to have
The remote is so bad and awful to use that I had to buy an older remote (the one with the numbers and everything on it) so my grandpa could use his new top of the line Samsung tv.
I love this review, I bought the 85” 90B two days ago :))
Ordered a Screwdriver shirt just because of this video. Although now that I look at the store I'm sad to see that the T-Shirt in the CLothing image with the hard drive platter is not listed for sale. I want that one too!
I miss TVs where you just plug stuff in and it works.
Now you have to create accounts use over complicated menus on super slow hardware and to use 75% of the “forced” features you need multiple subscriptions…
Samsung be like. Remove a feature from the current device so we can add it to the next one and say it's new. Feels like EA
Always has been
What did they remove? 🤡🤡
@@propersod2390 menu usability
@@crazybeatrice4555 Their menus have always been like that. And btw making a menu more or less complicated is not "removing features".
It worked for their mobile division, although they're getting less sales, than their peak
8:08
Even on my TN panel that's 5 years old I can tell that Encanto looks flipping amazing
I might need a new screen
You are the best !! Subscribed !!!!
Finally somebody complained about the freakin menu. For some reason, nobody online has a problem with the stupid source button omission.
If you’re using a unpopular device, Samsung forces you to go through an annoying setup process every time you switch to it. ie: PS5 and Switch work fine, but it’s really annoying to use with my Super NT
Just give me a source button. I hate all this “smart” crap.
Me too. Hate "smart" TVs.
Hey Linus, want to know something a little crazier still? Samsung uses ADS panels for their QN90A (and probably other top of the line) tvs in the EU and Latin America and VA panels in the US and Canada, charging the same, the contrast ratio difference is huge and they do not disclaim this information anywhere on their website.
A basically rebranded IPS panels? That is really shitty! IPS has its places but in a TV where contrast ratio is very important it is not. HDR performance probably sucks too.
@@MaaZeus I know, I couldn't believe this but it is true 100%, these kinds of practices should be illegal. This is the only video I could find on the subject ua-cam.com/video/OergXd20Jrc/v-deo.html it is in spanish but it has English subtitles, however I've seen complaints in the Samsung website for some latin american countries and I couldn't believe my eyes.
they also do every other line different colors to cheat color tests like on the g7 monitor. the g7 monitor fakes contrast and colors and i wouldn't have bought it had i known
I mean are we really surprised when samsung is doing this with Exynos in their phone while also charging higher price and not really disclosing it either (for eg they just say octacore processor and make it hard to find the brand name)
isnt the European QN90 the American QN80 though? the European QN95 should be the American QN90.
these international model numbers suck balls and are missleading if you use American media like Rtngs or /r/hometheatre . Sony X950h is the XH9505 in Europe/Germany and there are dozens of sub TVs being sold like XH9005 (X900H) or XH9305 and whatnot. Same for LG with OLED C9 and the C6 Swiss model and whatever else there is. TV wise we always got the short stick as our TVs in general are just worse overall
Lol I had all of the same thoughts when operating the settings menu 😂 gotta go to expert settings to turn off "auto connect game mode."
you're right, size matters with a TV. luckily for me I can't fit a 65 inch TV in our TV are. right now we have a 55inch 1080p TV for our movie watching, though I usually just watch stuff on my pc with my gaming monitor. however the 55inch version of this being nearly $800 cheaper at $1999 makes it look like a good upgrade option, maybe in a year when it's on sale.
The main question: Can you use it without accepting terms of use?
Yes, but everytime you switch it on or leave the settings you are prompted (I assume for life, mine been doing it FOr 7 months😐) to accept terms and conditions.
You can and but they have a annoying bright green prompt on the screen to accept TOS for useless features everytime you use the television.
Yes…
I disabled it once on my Sony TV and it never showed up again
I got a 55 inch LG C1 for half price just recently and I'm really happy with it, upgrading from Samsung 42inch 4k LED.
The switch to OLED is huge! I'm able to have a much bigger screen without eye strain, and the contrast is amazing and the blacks are so black! So glad they finally came down in price, been wanting a TV like this for years!
so sweet the teddy bear - co presentor linus has ... so cuddly and good hearted
I'll wait for the second or third generation of this product so that the size options increase and the software matures significantly. Otherwise these look amazing and I am genuinely excited to get my hands on one.
I don’t know much about TVs, how long will it be until this product will be a second or theirs generation?
@@jsac3939 Middle to late 2023 is the earliest I'd expect 2nd generation QD-OLED's.
This IS the matured software. Samsung Tizen OS has been garbage for years. It's not going to get any better.
why anyone would care about the software interface of a TV? I always use it hooking up to a Nvidia Shield or Amazon Fire Sticks.
It’s worthless waiting for it to mature. Its already better then WOLED and every year there’ll be a better TV out
I remember on a recent LTT Samsung screen technology video someone was questioning why I didn't trust the Samsung curated "comparison". I mean, why would they ever cheat or lie about these things? It's not like short term profit is the only thing that matters... oh wait.
The problem with Samsungs cheat is it’s active in modes that should never have it - cinema or filmmaker modes.
They should call it Samsung Improved.
Never heard of nits before. Can you do a video, explaining the cryptic words used for benchmarking for various products?
I'm glad that not just I get frustrated with the recent softwares/firmwares :D
Only Linus can make me feel like my LG B9 is outdated 😅
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Oh I think my UA-cam was just bugged. It’s still there rip
@@MrJames-qu4kz yeah lol
LG Oled WILL burn-in, just like mine.... (thanks LG)
and my cheap led tv from 4 years ago
Got mine a couple weeks ago. Phenomenal TV. Really enjoying it. Blown away by how Altered Carbon looks on it in 4k HDR. it is very impressive. And gaming is amazing!
Im on my 3rd 55" s95b and all of them have had bends in the panel and 2 of them had dead pixels straight out of the box. Does yours have any bends or dead pixels? Have you checked for dead pixels by displaying a solid one color image across the screen?
@@brandonbajc2084 no bend its straight as an arrow. i have not noticed dead pixels either. I have heard of the bent panels though. sorry to hear that!
@@ElderTrollsGaming its all good, thanks for the reply! Im still trying to decide if Im going to try again or get a different model.
I just bought this TV. Thank you Linus for the words of wisdom at 16:20.
Hey Linus, at 6:24, that is the design on your t-shirt, it reminds me of a custom pattern you can have an in io game I play
At 4:58 the chapter says LGs TV Interface Sucks, but this is Samsung!
Great review as usual. FYI in the timings on UA-cam you put "LGs interface sucks" think you meant to put Samsungs. Keep it up LTT!
Dynamic range compression *for your audio* is a feature on many/most AVRs these days. Yes it can kill immersion. But it can also make night time viewing less likely to piss off the neighbors or wake the baby.
About the blinking the tv does, my 2013 samsung 48" 4k tv does that too! Seems like 9 years aren't enough to fix a problem...
Phone benchmarks mean very little to real world usage
Color accuracy benchmarks for displays however, are a very different thing.
Really sad to see horrible ui systems still around. I assumed they paid one internet to fix that
I did a stint with UI with a project team at a bigger company. Let me tell you something... I was truly shocked at how hard it was to convince the other engineers to make things in the GUI faster/easier/optimized. Even little details that you would take for granted I had to fight for. Now multiple this by a larger company using even more disconnected engineers, and you get this interface.
Wellllllll after months of deliberation I had FINALLY settled on the Samsung S95B (first choice was the Sony A95K but too $$$), BUT then I went to my local Best Buy. THREE separate electronics employees strongly recommended I NOT get the Samsung. They have a 65” S95B with a huge pink burn-in splotch. They told me it had only been up running demo content for TWO MONTHS. So the LGC2 it is!! Good luck everyone
I actually own this TV and I can say the burn in fear is greatly overblown.
You'll notice it's only best buy employees complaining, ive yet to hear of permanent burn in from a real user (heard it from a few LG G2 owners though)
Best buy demo tv's are not representative of real world use.
They run constantly so don't get enough compensation cycles, they run the same demos over and over again, wearing out the exact same pixels again and again for months (yes months ive never once heard of burn in in a week i think that employee was having you on) and they usually disbale the safety mechanisms like absl, logo dimming and the screen saver that appears after 30 secs.
With all those things together when watching varied content burn in is not a problem, I've talked to plenty of people who've had their tv's since launch and every panel is perfect.
Meanwhile I've heard if LG's burn in a matter of months of real use, why? Because use case is the number one factor, ive heard of people who play apex for hours every single day with the hud elements enabled then wonder why their G2 is burnt after 3 months whilst regular gamers who play a variety of titles and turn off the hud in games they play often have no issues.
So unless your playing the same game everyday or using the tv as a pc monitor (a big no no, its fine to play pc games on oled tvs but not to use it from regular pc use on a regular basis) you'll be fine.
Yes it will burn eventually, that'll happen to every OLED regardless of brand, my C7 lasted about 5 years, I expect the s95B to last about as long, sure the C2 may last 7-8 but I'd never keep the same TV that long anyway and if you're the type of person that will then buy a Miniled, OLED isn't for you regardless of brand.
Now when the TV first launched it did have issues, that was because it hit 1500 nits which is too much without a heatsink. But Samsung recognised that and limited the TV to 1000 nits ending the issue.
Though I know people who've re-enabled 1500 nits in the service menu and even after months have no problems.
And b4 anyone brings up the rtings test note it has the same issue as best buy, it's not representative of real world use and rtings themselves stress than constantly, plus even then i took months of 18 hour days of CNN at full bright b4 the newsricker burnt in not a week as you claimed.
Its also worth noting that old lg's like the C7 used to burn even quicker in tests like this but in the real world it's only now years later that real users are having problems.
On the plus side peoples fears mean these TV's are available at unbelievable prices, I got my 65" brand new for £900, £300 less than a used C2 and I'm so glad I did, tthe insane colour luminance, super wide colour gamut and 1000 nit highlights (upgradeable to 1500 with SM mods but I only do that occasionally for special films to be safe), it's just unreal a massive upgrade over my old C7 whilst the C2 just isn't a big leap plus its limited to 150 nits in SDR, even dimmer than the C7 which is just unusable for me, the S95 can access full HDR brightness in SDR mode which is a huge benefit over LG rarely talked about.
TL:DR the risk of burn in is greatly overblown, it was a risk at launch but that was rectified by an update. As long as you respect the TV and vary your content you won't see burn in for years, and it's worth noting that LG's will also burn in, whilst they may far better in stress tests in real life I've heard far more about them burning than Samsungs.
@@MsMarco6this is the worst flagship tv in many years and ahould be avoided. Not because of burn in, but build quality and QC. These are breaking down by themselves. In 1 year or 1 month, you will just get a dead tv eventually.
@@danielkissgremsperger3242 that is a massively overstated problem, there's no evidence of a particular high failure rate.
Yes you'll see people post their broken models but bear in mind most people only post online when theres a problem, the same is true for any other Oled a quick Google search will show no end of people with broken C2's for instance why? Because if they weren't broken those people wouldn't talk about them online so the broken one's are over represented.
However if you look on forums where people post consistently about the TV generally and not just when they have Issues (such as AV/AVSforums) you'll see almost noone talking about their set breaking, why Because it's not all that common and noone has any evidence that it is.
Yes Techgiant has had multiple issues but of that was a common failure rather than just bad luck you'd expect other reviewers to report there broken models but you don't see them doing that more than average.
If your still not convinced then just get one with a warranty which all new units should have amd there's nothing to worrt about.
@@danielkissgremsperger3242Is it worth spending $2k for this? Love Samsung products usually
What were you meaning by waiting for the next gen after this? I'm on the fence upgrading from my 2018 Q7FN.
That auto calibration thing via the phone seems AWESOME
Even tho I think they stole the idea from apple lol.
9:15 Honestly Samsung TV speakers seem to have been consistently good for a while now. I was honestly shocked at the depth and range in the speakers of my old Samsung TV from 2015. They were on par or better than most sound bars even several year after release (except for surround audio of course)
Strange, when we upgraded to a 55" Samsung 4k around that time, I had to run out and buy a soundbar because it was so bad. Didn't want a standalone audio solution until I could get a full home theater, but could barely hear the TV. Our new Samsung is a ton better, but it never gets use now that we do have a 5.2 2 setup
I can second this. Our TV from (I believe) 2016 has some of the best TV speakers I've ever heard. They're clear and full with deep bass without drowning out the highs. We actually enjoy listening to music with it. Fast forward to 2021, and we got a new, thinner Samsung Tv. My gosh is it worse. The speakers are flat and tinny, there's absolutely no bass and we consistently have to turn it up to 75+ for normal viewing. The old TV could literally fill the entire front part of our house and still sound good.
Bought this awesome set for 4 days. Picture started blinking on all media. Ended up returning it and buying 2 lg 65" c1
This video made me check my 2021 Samsung TV and it is in-fact out of date as well, despite the OTA update claiming it is up to date. Hopefully this fixes my screen blanking issue.
Good job shouting out Vincent who first discovered this. He deserves more attention.
Nah that crook will lie & pressure you into said TV you are not interested but will do so by is agenda in secert. Stick to other sources like Rtings for more true reviews & suggestions, they'll make sure you're satisfied no matter what
The worst part about the remote is, you can still use the classic style remote on these new samsungs... I absolutely hate the stupid remote they pack in... my remote from my older Samsung works perfectly and I never have to search for the simplest of things, like input selection.
Really? I have an old remote around somewhere, from the early 2000's. I need to find that and try it.
@@czibbell74 it should, they never changed their frequency
Same with Vizio. My stepdad got a 60' Vizio smart TV and that stupid thing would never cast properly and only a couple times did I ever get the app to work. You could not get into the settings of the television without the remote app installed on your phone however you could use an old vizio remote and press "settings" on it and bring up the menu. F that shit. Horrible. The TV only lasted 4 years before it turned blue.
@@czibbell74 I have one from one of sa.sungs earlier touch of color models.... works my qled perfectly. I'd honestly be surprised if it didn't work.
@@czibbell74 Their remotes are pretty much universal with all Samsung models. I use the old one on my TU-8000 with no issues. Only some buttons don’t work but I don’t use them anyway
Can we get a video on Q-symphony? Love to hear more about it
I can understand what is spoken to me... up to a point when I think... did those words go together. Meaning, the tech speak goes over my head...
the tv seems to STUPIDLY be using the "samsung smart things" menus/nomenclature in order to connect to ALL things, instead of just to wireless things, because thats EXACTLY how the new "smart things" interface for the phones works too, it even shows direct connected headphones and game controllers in its menus now....
Just like Linus I'm surpriced by the lack of dolby vision on all TVs by Samsung but when reading more about it there seems to actually be a reason as to why. becuase Samsung never went with the OLED train and instead focused on their QLED tech, they always ended up with the brightest displays out of all the competition as they didn't have the brightness limit of a normal OLED. As dolby vision is made to compensate for a low maximum brightness from the display they actually didn't need it because their displays got bright enough to not need dynamic metadata. They do however support HDR10+ which is basically the same as dolby vision but they still don't really need it, but as it's free unlike DV they decided to add it.
They don't support DV because they are part of the HDR10 forum, so they have HDR10+.
Dolby Vision won the format brief war for sure though, every streaming service uses Dolby Vision (maybe not prime video yet), even Blu-Ray discs are more common with DV than HDR10+. Sansung is just being stubborn at this point
HDR10+ is not “basically” DV. HDR10 and 10+ both use static metadata, where DV has a tone curve on a scene by scene basis. The dynamic metadata isn’t just to compensate for lower brightness displays, it’s also to be able to represent scenes in a more accurate manner.
In practise, how big of a difference that makes in actual watching isn’t really gonna matter, unless you’re comparing the two side by side, but DV is becoming the new standard, and has more potential (because it uses 12 bit color vs 10 on HDR10/10+, which futureproofs it)so if you want a more accurate representation of the content, DV is gonna be better.
@@justsaying993 HDR10+ uses dynamic metadata, not static.
Other than that you are correct
HDR 10+ standard was actually created by Samsung, Panasonic and 20th century fox
@@justsaying993 None of the TVs from any company has 12 bit panel to make 12 bit DV which there are rarely any 12bit content useful. HDR 10+ is different from HDR 10 which is a static metadata.
Linus please look into the issue of Samsung forcing FW1420 onto televisions even when users had turned off Automatic update. I was on FW1303, had Auto update OFF and have found that my TV is now on the “broken” FW1420. No notification just updated.
All Smart TV's can force something if they want, the only way for full control is to disconnect it from the internet.
8:03 that looked amazing, on my 2015 TN monitor
I just picked up last year's model of the Sony X85J a couple weeks ago and damn! Also, it has Dolby Vision, and it looks great. Every thing you mentioned in this video my TV checks all the boxes and beats it out in the menu debacle. I was told the only difference between last years model X85J and this years X85K, the new one is only 10% brighter. I'm in a dark room so it doesn't really matter. Oh yeah, in game mode it's only hits 14 ms.
Goodluck comparing cheap lcd to oled...
I guess it depends on your frame of reference man. The Sony X85J will be a huge upgrade from a smaller LED TV from 2017, mostly just because it’s larger and newer so probably more Nits. But dude put that X85J right next to an A95K in a dark room and put on any movie with some dark scenes containing contrast (fire/explosions, etc), and you’ll quickly see where the extra money went for the OLED. But if you’re just watching sports in a room with no blinds on the windows, then you got exactly what you need! As FOMO says, decide based on your use case. Happy buying.
I have been using a 48" C1 as a PC monitor for 2 months and I am extremely happy with it.
I have moved both my PS5 and Switch dock from the TV room to my desk so now all my gaming is in one location.
I have not been this impressed with a TV since I bought my 64" Samsung plasma 10 years ago, which is getting a little long in the tooth but still has an impressive picture with no burn in.
My C1 already has over 1,100 hours...yes I do a lot of gaming and other use with it.
Go back to the shire.
This one is terrible as a PC monitor (at least for productivity and web browsing), because of its bizarre triangle subpixel structure, making the small text horrible to read. If you only do gaming or watching videos then it will be awesome.
The C1 is the first tv I can say I love to use. I have a 65 inch in my living room and a 48 inch in my room. I waited for the C2 to come out and got a good deal on the 48 inch and open box from best buy with the 65 inch. Could not be happier with the C1. The C1 does suffer with the really bad interface so I use 2 Apple 4k for the snappy interface and NO ADS.
@@kazioo2 You are referring to the Samsung QD-OLED correct, not the LG C1??
I am just confirming what you meant, as the C1 does not have the triangle pixel structure so I assume you are referring to the QD-OLED which does have a triangle pixel structure.
I had researched what TVs were coming out (including Dell's QD-OLED PC monitor) and I decided that for the price and quality the C1 was best for me...and I am very happy with the C1 as both a PC gaming monitor and when paired with my PS5 and Switch dock.
The only reason I considered waiting for the C2 was the 42" screen however paying more for a smaller screen did not sit right with me...
and I am so happy I went with the 48" C1 because the size works for me and finally I am completely satisfied with my PC gaming experience whereas I had not been before due to the smaller 27" PC gaming monitor I was using.
I bought my first gaming PC a year ago and I paired it with the really nice MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD 27" 1440p 165hz IPS monitor...the picture and performance were awesome however I wanted a larger 4k true HDR monitor.
With the 48" C1 my PC gaming experience is like my console gaming experience but without having to choose between fidelity mode vs performance mode.
Furthermore, having all my gaming platforms hooked up to one monitor in one location makes it so convenient to switch back and forth as I please.
same here. 1440p with black borders, no stretching.
so in your opinion on this tv, if the picture is that good, do we really need dolby vision? i mean would it make any difference?
It would be nice to see an update regarding productivity use in a month or two. How does the tv respond when used as a monitor for 16 hours a day.
there is ZERO issues with voice volume on DTS, only Dolby and ac3 has that issue....
One thing Linus never covers when he gushes over samsung TVs is the fact they have built in Ads! If you buy a Samsung TV, even if you have UA-cam premium, 6 months down the line, it'll start interrupting your UA-cam experience with ads.
Neither of my flagship Samsung TVs have ever done this...
Yeah, I absolutely refuse to be played ads on something I pay for. That's why I will never buy into TV again, never watch any of the streaming services with ads, and will never buy a device with built in ads. I'm ok with ads on free services, and I'm ok paying for services to have no ads, but I refuse to have both
@@dave_s_vids Mine either….
My samsung tv don't do that. And i'm pretty sure google won't allow it in UA-cam
@@dave_s_vids do you use the youtube app or do you have it connected to another device? How long have you had the TV? They don't come on for the first 6 months.
8:24 “ you don’t really notice the brown until here” I’m fucking dead. 😭😂😂😂
Me watching this video on an AOC 24" TN panel, hearing them say how vibrant the colors are. Absolutely, this is amazing.
I'm currently with a 10-year-old 1080p Dell monitor.
Looking forward to be *amazed out of my mind* with a 40(-something) inch QDOLED when they come out - gonna be one hell of an upgrade :D
I just want a 24inch 240hz..... The display I had my eye on was discontinued. No. I don't want curved. No, 27inc his too big for 1080p. NO. I do NOT want less fps for a larger resolution. I want what I have now. But faster.
@@Wylie288 Just get the 24.5 390hz from Microcenter. It’s only $329! I have it, it’s amazing. Also has better reviews than more expensive 360hz monitors like the Alienware that only go to 360hz.
The reason it’s cheaper is because it’s just Freesync but it works fine on Nvidia. You also won’t get 390hz (you get lower input lag too even if you’re not hitting that fps) on any other monitor.
@@Wylie288 getting hung up on curves will just limit your options to pretty much nothing. a good curve is literally unnoticeable, my 32-inch monitor curves about 1-2 cm from the middle to the edge
@@sircalvin nope, curve is noticeable, and yes, I used to have an 1800R 32". When I moved countries, I made sure both my replacement monitors are now flat screens.
I'd not be able to tell the difference between something like 140Hz and 300Hz probably, waiting on that seems like an odd move, and going higher resolution is fine for a lot of games now with DLSS upscaling as performance will be similar while quality will be better, 1440p is a good resolution at the moment, especially once you hit 27" as at 1080p you can see pixels with text at 1m (or at least I can).
Same, I have an old monitor that I'll replace someday, but I hope I can wait until the UI/UX gets a little more bearable
You can add the inputs to the home screen with your other apps. You can also get to settings much faster by hitting the gear button on the remote.
I agree. I think people get their rocks off bashing Samsung lol, as all the UI’s have annoying issues on LG and Sony. Yes the UI sucks (don’t they all as many use Nvidia Shields, Apple TV’s, Amazon Fire, and etc to navigate), but there’s plenty of fast work arounds like you said on the Home Screen, it’s just people are too lazy to do so or find the faster ways to navigate. I might have to do a video about this, but people will still complain even if I show them they can do most things in 1 click lol
@@icemanandbobtechandgaming The problem is people these days are way too impulsive. Their brains have gone to mush
I like Nicholas, the way he keeps calm while Linus freaks out
The S95b absolutely kicks the shit out of my CX! Got mine for $1200 used on eBay, never been happier with a purchase.
Would really like to see a comparison between this and the sony qd oled tv
15:24 One thing, when showing store pages, could you do it in dark mode or slightly minimized? When watching your videos in fullscreen, it gets so bright.
Color Balancing your TV using Apple TV and now on Samsung tvs is such a great start. We need this to be a main feature to get better accuracy.
Watching this video on my $8 720p monitor from goodwill. Yeah TV looks so amazing, so much better then all the other TVs lol. I can really see the difference!