Toyota Supra 2.0 Review - Is this the Turbo 86 We've Been Asking For?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Toyota has released the Supra 2.0 for the 2021 model year, and it's 2.0 4-cylinder turbo engine sacrifices some horses for 220 pounds less heft when compared to the full-fat 3.0. This lightweight Supra has us wondering though, is this the turbo 86 that we've been asking for? And how different is it from the 3.0 Supra? Let's find out.
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Quite an interesting comparison should I say
I would say the 86 would make a nice daily while the Supra 2.0 could be a sick project to work on or vice versa
Great video, wonderful review, to the point and thoroughly informative. Great job guys
Thanks Adnan! Much appreciated!
@@albonfilms I love this channel so much. You guys deserve alot more subscribers.
It's crazy how smal viewrcount this has, because it's produced professionally, hell better than most automotive channels on youtube.
Thanks Michal, we're just trying to give you guys the best stuff we can make!
@@albonfilms And it shows, I shared your channel with some car guys.
That means a lot, thank you!
Almost $20,000 less than a Cayman? Not bad.
I owned a 86 for 6 years and traded it for a 2.0 Supra. In America all of the 2.0 have a Torsen LSD fyi.
Guys the 2 litre Supra comes with a regular LSD not with an open differential. At least in the USA and Europe. The 3.0 Supra has an electronic active differential.
No it's not an LSD, it's an open diff. There is no mechanical LSD available for this car anywhere. We tested it and confirmed with Toyota
@@albonfilms Sorry my bad, i misunderstood, here in Europe there is a Sport Package that the car can be equipped with, which includes the active LSD and the adaptive suspension. Cheers guys great video newsroom.toyota.eu/2020-toyota-gr-supra-20-dpl/
Guys, I have the 2.0 and the 2.0 has a mechanical LSD.
Everyone says this is an "engine swap" car but before we get there, why not let people explore how much the 2.0T can take with tuning and bolt-ons.
Let's see if the B48 can slot itself comfortably with the likes of EA888, 4G63, EJ25, 3S-GTE and Honda K20 in the realm of highly tunable 4 bangers.
I wouldn't put it out there like that but I've only heard them getting as far as 400hp. It's already closed deck just like the B58 but i think what some say the problem is is it can't handle heat as well as the B58 can from what I heard.
Agreed, I think people will be surprised with how tuneable this motor will be!
I just wish it had a Toyota Engine... Feels like Toyota isn't Toyota anymore. Do they even innovate? Or do they just improve other companies?
Super old video, but for anyone reading the 2.0 actually has a Mechanical LSD, not an open diff as stated in the video
It actually does not in the USA! Only in a few other markets does it get fitted with the M-Sport LSD. In the US, it's open. I confirmed this with the engineers. Hence why it drove like an open diff. Just a one tire fire.
@@albonfilms DAMN ok. It's crazy how hard this is to confirm given there's so many different reports from various outlets. Some say it has it, others say open diff. Anyways I'll trust you guys since you actually drove it.
I want the 2.0 without a turbo but with a manual transmission. Miata killer. I know you guys are gonna say, just get the 86, but I argue, that the boxer is kinda meh as an NA.
The 2.0 turbo in the Supra is definitely stout, so I feel you there! I think maybe in a few years, a used 2.0 Supra with some mods will be an awesome car.
@@albonfilms kind of curious if it's possible to swap the mk5s 3.0s diff into the 2.0.
@@albonfilms I really want toyota to bring the GR Yaris to the US. thats going to be a game changer.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 I think it should definitely be possible. The only trouble will be coding in the programming to operate the E-LSD, but since the 2.0 comes with the E-LSD overseas, I think it shouldn't be too hard for somebody who knows their stuff.
@@albonfilms was thinking that. I would've said why not go and find a diff off a 40i bimmer buuuutttt the coding is going to be a hurdle to get it to work.
waiting...
I´ll come back in 20 minutes xD
@@steveromeocars the hype is real.
Dont care about straight lines... u do live in America right 🤣
Hahahaha true
Way overpriced, who in their right mind would buy this. 400z poverty spec will eat it alive with 3L and manual transmission.
The 2.0s have a mechanical LSD. The 3.0s have an electronic LSD. Great review otherwise!
Great review. Drop this as a segment in the old Top gear easy.
Thank you! That means a lot!
8:20 look at all that space 👀 I can already tell it'll be a good 4 banger to work on
Definitely super easy to work on! Plenty of room for a big turbo too!
Or maybe a possible 2JZ swap?!
@@Tarantulaflytrap 2js can simply be slipped into the these. Sits comfortably in the engine bay.
Wasn't expecting to watch the whole video. I was pleasantly surprised. Awesome and informative. Loved it!
I appreciate that Samuel! We're trying our best to give you guys quality content!
Supra impressive!😂 (caught that @2:24)
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In Europe an Active Differential is provided as part of the optional Sport Pack for the GR Supra 2.0
Yup! And that is the same as the eLSD on the 3.0. Sadly, US did not get that option. Thanks for watching!
@@albonfilms keep up the good work ✌️💯
Bruh imagine just imagine after 1-2 years ppl start tuning the 2019 supra into 1998 😂😂😂😂
*The 2.0 is a really good choice for a 2JZ swap project.*
2jz swap won't make sense I think bc the b58 is pretty much similar, maybe RB or something like that?
I'm I think it does have an LSD just not a electronic one.
If you think this is the first time in the history of the Supra there isn't a 6 cyl then you need to do a history lesson on Castrol TOM supra... arguably the best Supra ever
I've read that the US 2.0s have a mechanical LSD.
Get an LSD from wrecked bmw 340i or 3.0 supra or sumn like that it must be plug and play I think
I saw my first supra on the road this past weekend. It’s a beautiful car but I really thought it would be bigger than it is. It truly is a rebadged Z4. The size was very disappointing. It looks like a bloated Miata quite honestly and I was not impressed at all.
The Supra 2.0 makes it a compelling car for being a more affordable, economical, and lighter option as a high end sports car
The 86 is also a good car as an affordable sports car and it has a more raw experience
Yeah, I think both are unique, and can both be improved!
I believe the supra 2.0 is the best bargain between the 3.0 and the 86.
My guy the supra 2.0 comes with LSD bro
That's a weird looking Cooper JCW
Lol sounds just like it too!
Way more agile? Ha! still over 3000 pounds, Miatas are the true agile lightweights :)
True! But 220lbs is a big difference!
Excellent and well thought out review lads. Top stuff
Thank you!
I’d rather pay 1.500 for an LSD, just not to buy the manual 86. Still don’t understand why so many people still love manuals. I grew up with them, and am happy I barely have to drive them ever again.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose! I've had an automatic Supra for 3 years now and I've found it to be mostly boring, even with adding power. I'm looking forward to getting into a manual 86 sometime soon.
@@albonfilms if you want to drive a manual, that is fine. I used to like manuals better, I even owned a MK4 manual. But that was because automatics were horrible at that time. The moment I could get my hands on a double clutch with flappy paddles I decided I never wanted to have a manual ever again. The shifting with the paddles is just as engaging, but you can focus on the driving a lot more. And once you reach a traffic jam, it is just pure heaven not having to shift. But to each its own of course :)
Great video as always, but this was nice having you work together
Thank you Robster! We'll try to have more stuff like this!
If they release the 3.0 in manual, I would buy one new.
Agreed!
M240i 6MT
@@worldofz00 No, I said a 2022 Supra.
i wonder if the b48 engine can handle 600 hp
It wont, but 500hp on stock internals is a lot more possible.
The 2.0T Supra should’ve frankly been the Celica rather Toyota was trying to pull a Celica/Supra strategy the cheap way.
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Still way better than any eco boost mustang by 100% LMAO
Couldnt have said it better myself….. hands down
Good video but getting some TheStraightPipes vibes with the dialogue style
I imagine two people talking to each other will always sound like two people talking to each other. Thanks for watching!
What about the new gr 86 2.3 turbo? Why would anyone buy the 2.0 supra?
Unfortunately, it's looking like the new 86 will not be getting a turbo with most recent reports. Who knows, though!
great channel, love the format
ive just saw a slightly newer video where the guy says it now has a vlsd standard... is that true?
Definitely not! I checked with Toyota and it's an open diff
Dude I guess 2.0 can be booted up to 400hp with like 5k in mods
Exhaust
Tune
Turbo upgrade
This is also BMW engine. And these 4bangers are getting really powerful with only ecu tune. And as they're propably the most popular engine in modern BMWs, there are lot of tuners really familiar with them.
Yeah I think maybe even cheaper than 5k could get you there!
No because it's an automatic.. no one buys slow 86 automatics
How about fast 86 automatics?
Perhaps they'll have it on next years model and the manual the following.
I hope so!
I really enjoyed it so much.. keep it up!! Im always hyped by video from you guys!!
Thank you so much!
damn how much weight have you dropped in the past years?
A decent amount! Diet and exercise is a wonderful thing!
there's an o between the t and y in toyota. you're kids grow up playing with tys, instead of toys?
When you're from the south, most vowels end up sounding like they've been through a fair amount of whiskey.
texans don't say tyota
Awesome job on this video, loved it! Way to go guys.
Thanks Bryan!
How does this not have more views. This is an awesome comparison.
Thank you!
Another great video from Albon watched start to finish!
Thank you Joel!
This channel is so underrated.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome review thanks for sharing
Thanks!
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Honestly think the 2.0 supra is a great addition for getting more people into supras not everyone can or will want to drop 50k and still being a turbo engine in sure plenty of tuning options will pop up
Agreed! I just hope they offer factory options sometime.
Turbo 86 is on it's way already, as GR86. 2.4 turbo boxer, 260bhp
No way, it would make this overpriced BMW obsolete. They love playing stupid games, just wait, they will announce it as 2.4L NA and spew that Japanese nonsense how it's "Perfectly Balanced". Just like automatic only Supra was "perfectly balanced", but now that Nissan Z will have a 6 speed they will introduce manual to Supra to stay relevant.
Missing that lotus metallic racing green 5spd! Eating the tuna sandwich at Neptune's net and driving down Pacific coast highway.
This is the model I want cause the 4cyl turbo motors make monster TQ! My old Ecoboost made no less than 475ftlbs at 29psi! So you can already see this 2.0 is TQ happy at 295lbs with a bone stock tune! Trust me get the 4cyl cause it will beat the 3.0 on a track like Willow or Laguna Seca!
I definitely would love to test a tuned 2.0 vs a 3.0!
@@albonfilms But then, you have to change rear diff to an lsd. And BMW's "M differential" from Supra is one of the best o the market.
Yup, that's right