Should mention that there is a cool add on for the Karoo called “ki2” that effectively adds back in Shimano di2 support. It’s technically side loaded, but works pretty seamlessly and the developer doesn’t charge you for it. Super easy to install.
I was honestly really hoping for a lot more. I know this is a great device, but it just doesn't seem like a massive step up from my 830, which does everything I want and more. I guess this is good; I no longer have the itch to upgrade.
One comment about review: you sometimes compares with 1030, and sometimes with K2. This is annoying because it's not always clear which devices you are talking about. Subject of the movie then suggest direct comparasion with K2 only therefore it's misleading.
My dream Garmin Edge 1030 plus, but with pairing capability to a bluetooth speaker.. (ie: JBL flip/charge) That way it could call out audible turn-by-turn directions when navigating.. This would improve safety for cyclist because they wouldn't have to take their eyes off the road when coming up to turns.. And for those off us who have visual impairment (can't see the street names) and (can't see that tiny text on the GPS, the Audible turn-by-turn would make a $600 Garmin a usable tool.. As it is, I can't see anything within 5 feet... No problems seeing the road, cars, stop signs etc.. Just can't see the Garmin or read the names of the streets. Audible would fix that problem.. Most don't need the fitness info/stats... Most casual riders just want to get from point A to point B safely. Having Audible turn-by-turn would make that possible for so many riders..
I bought an Edge 1040 Solar. The sensor dropouts are real. It's a constant problem and I've had to replace all of my sensor batteries twice in the 31 days I've been using the Edge 1040. That screams some sort of communications problem. The % Grade is inaccurate, making all of the climb data equally inaccurate. You'll find that you were putting out 400 watts on a 0% grade, then 0 watts on an 8% grade because that part of the hill is already 1000-2000 feet behind you. Garmin said they aren't going to fix that on the Edge 1040. The Solar is a gimmick at best. If you set it in the sun it'll get too hot and stop charging. And on a sunny 100 mile ride I see around 43 minutes of charge from it while the battery drops around 22% overall.
I've got the 1030 plus & I'm happy with it. Your absolutely right... the additions don't justify a purchase. I'd also add that some of these features should be added to older models through firmware, but where's the money in that, lol.
Great review, thanks👍 have Garmin changed anything on how to scroll on the map? I have an 830 and find it almost impossible to scroll and pan the map without having to pull over - at that point I just use my phone. Having to push on the screen to change to pan mode, then if you try pull down, the garmin quick menu for sensors etc appears, same if trying to press to zoom in and out (goes out of map scroll mode) - everything at the top of the screen interfering with each other. Such a terrible UI design, or at least it doesn’t suit me 🥴
After my second Garmin Edge 520 died unexpectedly I decided to try something different - the Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt instead of the Garmin 530. Boy! I'm glad I did. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxXZCtB-wGdHVTBSz8RswePK5vllHNi06N The display on the Wahoo Bolt is much easier to read. I like the configuration of the display more (up to 7 items visible on page 1 without scrolling and the first item chosen is larger characters than the next 3 rows that have pairs of items (still very readable). I also like the configurable item selections. The Bolt synced with my Garmin ANT+ Speed sensors on both bikes easily so no additional investment was required there. While the rated battery life is a couple hours less than the Garmin 520/530, I easily get a weeks worth of 1+ hour rides before recharging (and it's never really low on charge). At the end of a ride syncing to the Wahoo app, Strava, and Apple Health app is painless.
Thanks for your comments on this. I am a techno nut and a K2 user. I get everything I need out of the K2 for now. Can't wait though to see your deep dive into this new Garmin. Curious to see how it measures up.
I was also about to order K2, but some serious shortcomings like small battery life when paired to radar and bunch os sensors, slow CPU, OSM only maps (no contour lines), inability to upload a track via just bluetooth and companion app, etc, put my purchase on hold. Also, what I like for Garmin is the MyBikeTraffic CIQ app, which shows statistics for the passed cars when Varia radar is active. So, will probably wait for x40 models and then decide finally.
Great video. Did you notice if the tone on the 1040 is the same or louder than the 1030 Plus. I find the 1030 Plus' tone a bit weak as compared to my friend's Bolt. I want to know if the 1040 is worth the upgrade as I have a hard time hearing the tone (when using the Varia) in windy and/or winter conditions. Thank you.
Thanks for the honest opinion. Great news about sensor drop outs, had it on early firmwares of 530, and recently a lot on 830 with 9.40 fw. Upgraded to the 1040 solar , let's see how it goes.
Power meter or the Edge 1040? Currently with the HH K2 with a Di2 bike, not great they removed the connectivity… And also, Garmin has greater training analysis from the PM i guess. Hard decision…
Great video as usual, very informative. What mount would you suggest other than Garmin for my Trek Domane SLR7? Presently Im happy using my Garmin 1030 plus. Keep up the excellent work! Thanks.
Great unbiased review. New to cycling and not currently running a computer. Here in the uk the 1030+ is reduced in price and now the same cost as the k2 possibly due to the 1040 release unless its just a limited time sale. Might have to look into the 1030+ following the drop in price and overall cost of the 1040. Keep up the great work 👍
Sticking with the Karoo 2 but not upgrading the Karoo software due to them pulling Shimano dI2 features off the computer. Shimano/SRAM infighting, they can kiss my butt. I still have the dI2 visuals and I’m enjoying it. $700 USD for the 1040? Well I guess the sky’s the limit since Garmin priced the power pedals RS200 at $1000+. I invested in that. No regrets. Karoo 2 is somewhat buggy. It only lets me upload either the Karoo ride or the Cyclemeter ride to Strava. Shut off the cyclemeter link and the Karoo is giving me good stats. Uploads quicker to Strava than to the Karoo dashboard. Still the screen is great and I like clicking from screen to screen with my shift buttons. Good reviews. Appreciated. Maybe I’ll upgrade next year to the 1040. Maybe their next model will be $1500! Greed versus need.
this new garmin seems ideal for adverture and ultra racing, 3 week delay here in europe the demand has been that high ? this 1040 solar device solves a lot of problems that other bike computer companys have not been addressing, though expensive, they are always one step ahead of the rest and compared to the rest they also do a very resonable customer support, I was very well looked after for a replacment V3 pedal bodys and garmin 1030, no petty behaviour, and it was the same from any of my friends who have had issues with garmin devices so in that sense its money well spent, pity samsung couldn't do the same, chalk and cheese?
they add issues with sensors connecting when using the Connect IQ apps but just came out with a Beta firmware update to fix it this morning. I love mine but it had a rough start. I upgraded from the trek edition 1030 which was starting to have battery issues.
I hadn't got a Garmin bike computer (or any bike computer) but I do have one of their watches and want to stay on the same infrastructure. I've got some long bike rides planned and so having it for navigation, with the larger screen and the better GPS will be beneficial I wanted the newer model and because I managed to get the Solar with a 6% discount, the price gap wasn't as big. I would've got the Solar anyway as I can just leave that by a window to charge up. There was the 1040 bundle with the three sensors (not available with the Solar model), but I didn't see the benefit of that over the non-solar version if the choice was between those two. One thing that is probably a benefit is the higher capacity, but whether that is all needed is another matter The only thing I would like is if my unit for my e-bike had Bluetooth or ANT+ so I could connect it to the Garmin and be able to see my battery level, range, and power level more easily
Great review on the 1040. I bought the 530 edge just before the 1040 came out. The 530 is ok though I am not super impressed with the battery life . I had to implement battery saving which I find annoying as I cant see the screen clearly. I am running a few sensors including a Varia light which could be reducing the battery life on my current device. I am a big fan of the 1040 solar option, though its a huge jump in price vs the standard 1040. I live in a sunny climate so a upgrade to the 1040 is on the cards later this year.
@@atexnik The battery will never last that long on the 530. When I plan long rides for more than 8 hours I use the battery pack from my Baviaans extreme light to feed continuos power to the 530 unit. On a mtb that little extra weight does not bother me.
The Garmin 1030 Plus provides the same "Audio Prompts" for Navigation. The option to turn this feature on/off is located on the Garmin Connect App on your phone, in the "Activity Options" menu of the Garmin Edge Device Icon. This is the ABSOLUTE dumbest place to put this option!🙄
Garmin is just know to be the best raelly. they mapping and features. i own 3 race bikes and they all use the top garmin device 1030. i am deffinely using the 1040 for 2023
Just watched all you videos on the bike computers and they helped me make my decision. I had the 530 and wanted a bigger screen. After selling it, I was considering either the 1030 plus or the solar, and after watching this, I ordered the 1030 plus. Thanks for your videos. Have a lovely day.
I don't have a cycling computer yet and I've just been using my Garmin Fenix to record my rides, is it worth it to spend the money on their flagship computer as my first one?
What’s up Jon great content I’m considering upgrading on it. I have a question Have you considered upgrading to OSPW like ceramicspeed what’s your opinion on it?
Dear Jon, thanks for the initial thoughts! Now, I'm really looking forward for your full in-depth comparison and your opinion over these two devices. Something tell me, 1040 is better optiomized as a cycling computer.
I saw that they are still using the same CPU etc as the 1030. Do you know if that's really true? If so, just wow. I hope hammerhead can keep their trajectory.
@@jonmaloneycycling7593thanks for the reply, I enjoy your videos! I feel like I'm complaining about first world problems, but if Apple or Samsung released a new flagship phone with a processor that is ~5 years old no one would give it a good review. Honestly I've loved my garmin fénix 5+, and the edge 520 is decent, but garmin dissapoints me. I'm honestly considering using my current phone as my nav computer, once I upgrade. At least for rides where I want to explore more.
@@SvenfromKiel lol, wonder if they've heard of Moores law. Rumor on the street is that chips get faster and more power efficient with new manufacturing nodes 🤣
I still use the 1030 and it is enough for me. I would not buy the 1040 because CPU is the same and also limitation is still 100 tracks max. What I really like with the Karoo is the App which allows to import tracks/links and easy upload them to device. Garmin Connect needs a new UI too in my opinion. Thanks for the review. :-)
sorry, CPU is not the same. even already faster one in the 1030-PLUS, that's why routing calculation is times faster and why screen can be faster finger-moved around
I've tested both the K2 and the 1040 (non solar). Before I had the K1 and the edge 1000. Attention : the new. K2 and the new 1040 are more difficult to read in many situations than the older units!!! That's crazy. Backlight on the 1040 also is much weaker than on the 1000. Battery life on the 1040 is only 9 hours with the backlight at 100%!!! Not 50 hours. For me that's a no-go. I can read my android phone screen (galaxy s20FE) much better than the K2 or 1040 in most conditions. I send both units back. I'll try a (very sleek) "quad lock" support for my phone and use Komoot on the phone for editing, recording rides and doing the navigation, je it on my Mountain Bike or my Road bike
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 $750. No way. I have the 830 and the only thing I don't like about it is the touchscreen. I thought I would like it when I bought it but I don't. I want to see what Garmin does with the 530 when they upgrade that device.
I lock the touchscreen on mine during rides - that way sweat drops don’t delete data fields and hang the OS. You can still swipe through the screens - but I agree fully - thought the touchscreen would help with searching the map on the fly. Nope.
@@Tommy31416 Thanks, I didn't think of locking the screen. I've been using this thing for a long time and didn't think of that. And I have the Di2 lever buttons so that should still change screens right? I'll try that tomorrow.
It was hard to justify purchasing a Solar for $150 extra, for essentially 10 hrs. battery life. As note when you purchase the Solar it seems they throw in the rubber case as well as that hinged out front mount, which is actually the mt. bike mount designed to install backwards so that the device sits over the stem, thus the hinge to adjust for different stem angles. I was lucky, my LBS offered a BF deal at 20% off on a 1040, so I grabbed it and will sell my 1030. I saw it as future proofing.
Should mention that there is a cool add on for the Karoo called “ki2” that effectively adds back in Shimano di2 support. It’s technically side loaded, but works pretty seamlessly and the developer doesn’t charge you for it. Super easy to install.
I was honestly really hoping for a lot more. I know this is a great device, but it just doesn't seem like a massive step up from my 830, which does everything I want and more. I guess this is good; I no longer have the itch to upgrade.
thanks for the comment
100% agree with this comment. Was thinking about it from a K2 but now i could careless. Thank you for helping my wallet Jon!
This Garmin seems perfect -except for the price 😭 I just can't justify £600 for it. Although I'll try to justify it 😂
Lol
One comment about review: you sometimes compares with 1030, and sometimes with K2. This is annoying because it's not always clear which devices you are talking about. Subject of the movie then suggest direct comparasion with K2 only therefore it's misleading.
thanks for the feedback
I lost a 1030 Plus because I wasn't using the leash. After a couple of months I'm still recovering from the deception :(
sorry to hear that!!
That was a honest review without any hype of unnecessary brand loyalty ...
thank you
I have a 1030, would you recommend an upgrade to a discounted 1030 plus or go for the 1040?……. Still enjoying the channel 😃
thank you!!
Just got mine too!! This review is unbiased and I agree 100%. Didn’t get the solar tho
Nice!! thanks for sharing
My dream Garmin Edge 1030 plus, but with pairing capability to a bluetooth speaker.. (ie: JBL flip/charge) That way it could call out audible turn-by-turn directions when navigating.. This would improve safety for cyclist because they wouldn't have to take their eyes off the road when coming up to turns.. And for those off us who have visual impairment (can't see the street names) and (can't see that tiny text on the GPS, the Audible turn-by-turn would make a $600 Garmin a usable tool.. As it is, I can't see anything within 5 feet... No problems seeing the road, cars, stop signs etc.. Just can't see the Garmin or read the names of the streets. Audible would fix that problem.. Most don't need the fitness info/stats... Most casual riders just want to get from point A to point B safely. Having Audible turn-by-turn would make that possible for so many riders..
Had to ditch the Karoo because of Shimano. Really disappointed in what happened.
sorry to hear that!
I bought an Edge 1040 Solar. The sensor dropouts are real. It's a constant problem and I've had to replace all of my sensor batteries twice in the 31 days I've been using the Edge 1040. That screams some sort of communications problem. The % Grade is inaccurate, making all of the climb data equally inaccurate. You'll find that you were putting out 400 watts on a 0% grade, then 0 watts on an 8% grade because that part of the hill is already 1000-2000 feet behind you. Garmin said they aren't going to fix that on the Edge 1040. The Solar is a gimmick at best. If you set it in the sun it'll get too hot and stop charging. And on a sunny 100 mile ride I see around 43 minutes of charge from it while the battery drops around 22% overall.
thanks for sharing man!!
I've got the 1030 plus & I'm happy with it. Your absolutely right... the additions don't justify a purchase. I'd also add that some of these features should be added to older models through firmware, but where's the money in that, lol.
exactly!
Garmin isn’t going to add any of those features; even if the 1030 plus is capable. 😢
Great review, thanks👍 have Garmin changed anything on how to scroll on the map? I have an 830 and find it almost impossible to scroll and pan the map without having to pull over - at that point I just use my phone. Having to push on the screen to change to pan mode, then if you try pull down, the garmin quick menu for sensors etc appears, same if trying to press to zoom in and out (goes out of map scroll mode) - everything at the top of the screen interfering with each other.
Such a terrible UI design, or at least it doesn’t suit me 🥴
I find the 1040 better for panning the map, but the k2 is way better at panning the map
After my second Garmin Edge 520 died unexpectedly I decided to try something different - the Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt instead of the Garmin 530. Boy! I'm glad I did. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxXZCtB-wGdHVTBSz8RswePK5vllHNi06N The display on the Wahoo Bolt is much easier to read. I like the configuration of the display more (up to 7 items visible on page 1 without scrolling and the first item chosen is larger characters than the next 3 rows that have pairs of items (still very readable). I also like the configurable item selections. The Bolt synced with my Garmin ANT+ Speed sensors on both bikes easily so no additional investment was required there. While the rated battery life is a couple hours less than the Garmin 520/530, I easily get a weeks worth of 1+ hour rides before recharging (and it's never really low on charge). At the end of a ride syncing to the Wahoo app, Strava, and Apple Health app is painless.
Thanks for your comments on this. I am a techno nut and a K2 user. I get everything I need out of the K2 for now. Can't wait though to see your deep dive into this new Garmin. Curious to see how it measures up.
thank you!!
Same with me 😀 After watching Jon's reviews and reading his comments bought K2 with trade-in program. Happy so far.
I was also about to order K2, but some serious shortcomings like small battery life when paired to radar and bunch os sensors, slow CPU, OSM only maps (no contour lines), inability to upload a track via just bluetooth and companion app, etc, put my purchase on hold. Also, what I like for Garmin is the MyBikeTraffic CIQ app, which shows statistics for the passed cars when Varia radar is active. So, will probably wait for x40 models and then decide finally.
Even my Edge 530 does the voice navigation talked about in this video.
nice!
Great video. Did you notice if the tone on the 1040 is the same or louder than the 1030 Plus. I find the 1030 Plus' tone a bit weak as compared to my friend's Bolt. I want to know if the 1040 is worth the upgrade as I have a hard time hearing the tone (when using the Varia) in windy and/or winter conditions. Thank you.
Thanks man, I didn’t notice if it was louder or not. If it is, its not by much
Initial impression coming from Karoo 2:
This interfaces with di2, Karoo 2 does not. 10/10 a step above the Karoo
Nice!!
Nice review man!!
I'm still on the 820. Does what I need but is a bit slow for my liking in certain areas and doesn't have Climbpro:(
thanks man, appreciate it
Great review. I'm curious to see how Wahoo responds to this with a new Roam.
Waiting for the wahoo roam v2
thank you
I too am hoping Wahoo upgrades the ROAM soon or comes out with another model to stay competitive. I'm still using the original Elemnt.
Thx for the review man. Do you think a 840 is coming soon?
Yes, it should be here soon, thanks man!
Crazy money 💰 🤑 i use the 530 and it does more than i will every use 👍
nice!!
Thanks for the honest opinion.
Great news about sensor drop outs, had it on early firmwares of 530, and recently a lot on 830 with 9.40 fw. Upgraded to the 1040 solar , let's see how it goes.
Nice, thanks for sharing!
I would love to get the Solar Edge but it's expensive! #cyclnig
It's a good investment!
Nicely presented info. I always use tethers on cycliq cameras as well. I've never lost a device because of it two of my mates have.
thank you
Power meter or the Edge 1040? Currently with the HH K2 with a Di2 bike, not great they removed the connectivity… And also, Garmin has greater training analysis from the PM i guess. Hard decision…
I would get Pm for sure!!
Sorry to change my 1030+. It's full of bugs, I don't know where to begin to name them...
sorry about that man!
Is the screen darker on the Solar model? If so is it still just as clear to read as the non solar model?…… enjoying your channel from UK👍👍🏴
slightly because of the panels. It has a bit more contrast which I like .
Thanks man!! I think the screens are the same brightness
Great video as usual, very informative. What mount would you suggest other than Garmin for my Trek Domane SLR7? Presently Im happy using my Garmin 1030 plus. Keep up the excellent work! Thanks.
I use the Blendr high mount turned inward over the stem.
Thanks man, I just ordered another k edge mount, I think they make the best ones
Great unbiased review. New to cycling and not currently running a computer. Here in the uk the 1030+ is reduced in price and now the same cost as the k2 possibly due to the 1040 release unless its just a limited time sale. Might have to look into the 1030+ following the drop in price and overall cost of the 1040.
Keep up the great work 👍
thanks man!!
yeah, really the only truly unbiased comparison.
Sticking with the Karoo 2 but not upgrading the Karoo software due to them pulling Shimano dI2 features off the computer. Shimano/SRAM infighting, they can kiss my butt. I still have the dI2 visuals and I’m enjoying it. $700 USD for the 1040? Well I guess the sky’s the limit since Garmin priced the power pedals RS200 at $1000+. I invested in that. No regrets. Karoo 2 is somewhat buggy. It only lets me upload either the Karoo ride or the Cyclemeter ride to Strava. Shut off the cyclemeter link and the Karoo is giving me good stats. Uploads quicker to Strava than to the Karoo dashboard. Still the screen is great and I like clicking from screen to screen with my shift buttons. Good reviews. Appreciated. Maybe I’ll upgrade next year to the 1040. Maybe their next model will be $1500! Greed versus need.
thanks for the input, appreciate it!
this new garmin seems ideal for adverture and ultra racing, 3 week delay here in europe the demand has been that high ? this 1040 solar device solves a lot of problems that other bike computer companys have not been addressing, though expensive, they are always one step ahead of the rest and compared to the rest they also do a very resonable customer support, I was very well looked after for a replacment V3 pedal bodys and garmin 1030, no petty behaviour, and it was the same from any of my friends who have had issues with garmin devices so in that sense its money well spent, pity samsung couldn't do the same, chalk and cheese?
I agree, would love to see a Samsung bike computer
@@jonmaloneycycling7593 referencing to the customer service, but I'm sure u could find a bike computer app for Samsung android phones?
Looks SLOW. I'd want it to be more responsive... that would drive me crazy :T
True
Got the solar version cuz I dislike constantly charging a head unit and I may sometimes forget to charge ⚡️
Nice!
I just ordered the regular Garmin 1040 bundle pack. I chose the regular one because I don’t need the additional battery life of the Solar version.
Nice!! all the best
they add issues with sensors connecting when using the Connect IQ apps but just came out with a Beta firmware update to fix it this morning. I love mine but it had a rough start. I upgraded from the trek edition 1030 which was starting to have battery issues.
thanks for sharing your experience, appreciate it
thanks for sharing. i considered buying that to replace my v1 bolt but wahoo sent me a brand v2 bolt as a warranty exchange.
Nice
I hadn't got a Garmin bike computer (or any bike computer) but I do have one of their watches and want to stay on the same infrastructure. I've got some long bike rides planned and so having it for navigation, with the larger screen and the better GPS will be beneficial
I wanted the newer model and because I managed to get the Solar with a 6% discount, the price gap wasn't as big. I would've got the Solar anyway as I can just leave that by a window to charge up. There was the 1040 bundle with the three sensors (not available with the Solar model), but I didn't see the benefit of that over the non-solar version if the choice was between those two. One thing that is probably a benefit is the higher capacity, but whether that is all needed is another matter
The only thing I would like is if my unit for my e-bike had Bluetooth or ANT+ so I could connect it to the Garmin and be able to see my battery level, range, and power level more easily
Great review on the 1040. I bought the 530 edge just before the 1040 came out. The 530 is ok though I am not super impressed with the battery life . I had to implement battery saving which I find annoying as I cant see the screen clearly. I am running a few sensors including a Varia light which could be reducing the battery life on my current device.
I am a big fan of the 1040 solar option, though its a huge jump in price vs the standard 1040.
I live in a sunny climate so a upgrade to the 1040 is on the cards later this year.
thanks for sharing, appreciate it
Could you tell me how's the battery life with Varia and few sensors without battery saving mode? More than 14 hours or less?
@@atexnik The battery will never last that long on the 530. When I plan long rides for more than 8 hours I use the battery pack from my Baviaans extreme light to feed continuos power to the 530 unit. On a mtb that little extra weight does not bother me.
@@mtbaddict9771 Ok, I guess, 10h is more realistic.
Where the heck did you get your 1040? I can't seem to find one right now here in Canada.
I bought it the moment it was released from garmins website
@@jonmaloneycycling7593 I got one from MEC!!!
The Garmin 1030 Plus provides the same "Audio Prompts" for Navigation. The option to turn this feature on/off is located on the Garmin Connect App on your phone, in the "Activity Options" menu of the Garmin Edge Device Icon. This is the ABSOLUTE dumbest place to put this option!🙄
thanks for the comment
@@jonmaloneycycling7593 My Edge 530 has this option as well, just tested it.
Great job man!
thanks man!!
Garmin is just know to be the best raelly. they mapping and features. i own 3 race bikes and they all use the top garmin device 1030. i am deffinely using the 1040 for 2023
How on earth did you thread the lanyard onto the 1040 Solar?? It looks impossible! I keep trying and failing :(
I upgraded my garmin meter from edge 800 to 1040 (non solar), I just feel like upgrade my iphone from the 1st gen to 14 pro max LOL
I like my 1030+, but the slow gradient response drives me nuts. I think my Wahoo, is way more responsive. I wish Garmin could resolve this.
Just watched all you videos on the bike computers and they helped me make my decision. I had the 530 and wanted a bigger screen. After selling it, I was considering either the 1030 plus or the solar, and after watching this, I ordered the 1030 plus. Thanks for your videos. Have a lovely day.
I have the 1030 purchased 2 years ago. I stopped riding for 6 months and just started again and now the battery does not last more than 3 hours…..
I don't have a cycling computer yet and I've just been using my Garmin Fenix to record my rides, is it worth it to spend the money on their flagship computer as my first one?
The solar option is for extended rides away from charging options, such as bike packing.
What’s up Jon great content I’m considering upgrading on it. I have a question Have you considered upgrading to OSPW like ceramicspeed what’s your opinion on it?
I have a Wahoo. It works well, even in Japan. Does the Garmin present names of Cho-me in native script or in romanization?
Own 1030 presently and sure as heck I am buying the 1040 solar. Seems so much snappier.
I am a K2 user, but the 1040 solar attracts me a lot for its battery capacity. Do you think navigation can ever be as efficient as the K2?
Dear Jon, thanks for the initial thoughts! Now, I'm really looking forward for your full in-depth comparison and your opinion over these two devices. Something tell me, 1040 is better optiomized as a cycling computer.
What Garmin does well is connect with the sensors? Maybe he is not connecting to lights.
I saw that they are still using the same CPU etc as the 1030. Do you know if that's really true? If so, just wow. I hope hammerhead can keep their trajectory.
it is true ...but with "faster algorithm" they say.
Youre right, it’s the same. I agree I hope k2 can edge out garmin
@@jonmaloneycycling7593thanks for the reply, I enjoy your videos!
I feel like I'm complaining about first world problems, but if Apple or Samsung released a new flagship phone with a processor that is ~5 years old no one would give it a good review. Honestly I've loved my garmin fénix 5+, and the edge 520 is decent, but garmin dissapoints me.
I'm honestly considering using my current phone as my nav computer, once I upgrade. At least for rides where I want to explore more.
@@SvenfromKiel lol, wonder if they've heard of Moores law. Rumor on the street is that chips get faster and more power efficient with new manufacturing nodes 🤣
It's the same CPU as the 1030 plus which is upgraded from the original 1030..
I still use the 1030 and it is enough for me. I would not buy the 1040 because CPU is the same and also limitation is still 100 tracks max. What I really like with the Karoo is the App which allows to import tracks/links and easy upload them to device. Garmin Connect needs a new UI too in my opinion. Thanks for the review. :-)
thanks for tuning in
sorry, CPU is not the same. even already faster one in the 1030-PLUS, that's why routing calculation is times faster and why screen can be faster finger-moved around
I've tested both the K2 and the 1040 (non solar). Before I had the K1 and the edge 1000.
Attention : the new. K2 and the new 1040 are more difficult to read in many situations than the older units!!! That's crazy. Backlight on the 1040 also is much weaker than on the 1000.
Battery life on the 1040 is only 9 hours with the backlight at 100%!!! Not 50 hours. For me that's a no-go.
I can read my android phone screen (galaxy s20FE) much better than the K2 or 1040 in most conditions.
I send both units back. I'll try a (very sleek) "quad lock" support for my phone and use Komoot on the phone for editing, recording rides and doing the navigation, je it on my Mountain Bike or my Road bike
I've had no issues reading my Karoo 2 screen even when set to 40%.
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thank you
👍🏻👏🏻
thank you
I got it and love it. I had the K2 for 2 months and night and day difference. Solar is awesome works great.
Thanks for sharing
you mean, the 1040 is that much better than K2? Can you describe what you like/dislike on K2 and 1040? Thanks!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 $750. No way. I have the 830 and the only thing I don't like about it is the touchscreen. I thought I would like it when I bought it but I don't. I want to see what Garmin does with the 530 when they upgrade that device.
I lock the touchscreen on mine during rides - that way sweat drops don’t delete data fields and hang the OS. You can still swipe through the screens - but I agree fully - thought the touchscreen would help with searching the map on the fly. Nope.
@@Tommy31416 Thanks, I didn't think of locking the screen. I've been using this thing for a long time and didn't think of that. And I have the Di2 lever buttons so that should still change screens right? I'll try that tomorrow.
thanks for sharing
It was hard to justify purchasing a Solar for $150 extra, for essentially 10 hrs. battery life. As note when you purchase the Solar it seems they throw in the rubber case as well as that hinged out front mount, which is actually the mt. bike mount designed to install backwards so that the device sits over the stem, thus the hinge to adjust for different stem angles. I was lucky, my LBS offered a BF deal at 20% off on a 1040, so I grabbed it and will sell my 1030. I saw it as future proofing.