Vibraflex isn't for everyone but if you need panel strength to increase SPL then this is the stuff you want to use. There isn't a stronger sound deadener available. It's tough to use but very worth the extra effort.
@@hemichris2680 you can get it from aampere audio , defbonce , and some other specialty audio companys. My personal favorite is deafbonce. Keeps the car ridged had to use a blow torch to put it on as well.
If that's what it takes. If I rush it and half ass the test that won't be any good. I might have to amke it a multi-part series to get some more footage out quicker.
I have a 2018 f150 (has an aluminum body) I bought vibraflex 190mil .. I originally planned on using just a heat gun cause I don't wanna damage my trucks roof.. however after watching this feel I need to torch it also... if I apply to the roof and then use a torch will the heat seap through and effect my aluminum body? Any advice?
Yea I agree it takes alot of heat for anything that has any thickness to it. Not a huge fan of torches. Lol I own a heat gun though so now I know what not to go with. Thanks my guy. Cant wait to see this build come together.. bass out
I have a Question Derrick , I am about to rip all of my cheap crappy KilMat out of my truck and go with the Ampere Vibraflex or Sundown deadner , but the question is , it’s gonna be in my daily build so when I do the inside of the doors , I will be limited to cooking every inch because well there’s very Touch small cavities to reach through to cook and Roll the deadner . I don’t want to cut my outside panel off and weld it back on the door just to deadner it . Do you have any advice for me ?
@@UnofficialAudio but as a tutorial you leave the video not knowing what texture it's supposed to take. Don't get me wrong, I'm probably never gonna need to install this and I enjoyed the video, just thought it'd be good to consider
Hi I have a question for yall. I have two sundown x15 d4 and a sundown 4000watt amp. I wired the subs to a 1ohm load, and the subs are barely moving and the bass knob keeps say that the subs are clipping
Lookin for some input for a trunk build In a 04 accord. I think I want to go with one 15" in a sealed box. Reason is power, I don't have a lot and I want to get the most out of it. Now from what I understand when you use a vented box you lose an estimated amount of amplifier power, and control and longevity of the woofer for a small peak to peak range of freq. so I think I want a sealed box for better music reproduction and longevity and efficiency. What sundown 15" sub would be best in a sealed box with my Rockford 1001bd 1083wrms @2 ohms amp? Are the blow through style 4th and sixth order boxes I see everywhere that incredible or is it more for competition? Aero port..any opinions over expensive kerf cut boxes? If you design a box that is larger than the speakers Ts specs how much larger of a box can you go before it's a problem controlling the woofer and damaging things? Sometimes I see these huge boxes and wonder no way that's a spec box for that 8"/s in a 4 cube box..is that because it's grossly over powered and the amp can control the sub/s or what? All and any useful input is greatly appreciated. Thank you BassHeadsRule
bigger box is more efficient, can get same results with less power, handling more power in it will most likely blow a sub, ported uses less power than sealed and if you want a box to listen to a variety of stuff I suggest a 4th order, fairly simple to build, you need to see what the ebp of whatever sub you want to put in anything below 100 can be used in 4th order or sealed box, closer you get to 0 is better for sealed, 100 ebp is usually only good for ported/6th order, good luck!
That's H AND H technologies. Not Vibraflex. Slightly different product requires less heat actually vs real vibra and the glass plastic beads. Just keep in mind that if it has the honey comb style it's h and h. If it's wrinkly it's Vibraflex. PS heat gun works great. Just need to soak it. -Anton, the deadener guy
@@UnofficialAudio I don't doubt it could be from somewhere else that manufactures with the same machines they do. I just know alot of people get Vibraflex and straight bitumen dampeners confused. Typically the stuff with the honey comb is more for the industrial application (sinks, HVAC, studios) it lacks the polymer blend, not saying you can't find the honey comb and polymer blend but certainly is what I have found.
I’m a dB drag spl competitor from Australia (ask jockers he knows me lol) I’m mainly asking as my corsa has anywhere from 3 to 6 layers of “deadener” in most areas and yes I did see gains from this, so I was just interested in how much an if there was a lot of difference, be in mind we most likely can’t get that here in Australia but I’m always keen to see how things stack up against each other P.s love that some one on UA-cam is doing a proper spl build unlike sound man and fab kitchen lol
UniCrafter lol yea just jump on term pro all our scores are there and we have a a lot of competitors in Sydney and Queensland and a few in Melbourne and odd ones scattered over the rest of Australia lol
have to be really devoted to sound deaden, as that would take a lot more time to install compared to the peel and stick (dynamat) material. nice video.
That makes ZERO sense. It would be a waste of sound deadener. That entire area is filled with wood and expanding foam. Having deadener in there would make ZERO difference except wasting time & money.
Vibraflex isn't for everyone but if you need panel strength to increase SPL then this is the stuff you want to use. There isn't a stronger sound deadener available. It's tough to use but very worth the extra effort.
what about the deaf-bonce double ridged?
Where can I buy vibraflex?
@@hemichris2680 you can get it from aampere audio , defbonce , and some other specialty audio companys. My personal favorite is deafbonce. Keeps the car ridged had to use a blow torch to put it on as well.
Thanks for info. 👍
@@hemichris2680 any time
Taking so long to upload the nsv4 subwoofer test Wednesday, I had to buy one & test it myself.. I didn't know soundman was building the box!
It's still gonna be a while before that test gets finished.
@@UnofficialAudio When like a year?
@@UnofficialAudio Can't wait! Actually got the nsv4 18 this past Thursday though.. 7cf - dual 18 passive radiator install
If that's what it takes. If I rush it and half ass the test that won't be any good. I might have to amke it a multi-part series to get some more footage out quicker.
Can you apply 190 mil vibraflex over 1/4" plywood on a roof?
Thanks for putting out these Tech Time videos....very good tips and advice
I'm experimenting with a homemade 2 part sound deadining. I'll let you know if it works.
How many layers would you do on that ride
Good video as always Derrick. This is a really useful piece of information for people who have never worked with vibraflex.
I have a 2018 f150 (has an aluminum body) I bought vibraflex 190mil .. I originally planned on using just a heat gun cause I don't wanna damage my trucks roof.. however after watching this feel I need to torch it also... if I apply to the roof and then use a torch will the heat seap through and effect my aluminum body? Any advice?
Yea I agree it takes alot of heat for anything that has any thickness to it. Not a huge fan of torches. Lol I own a heat gun though so now I know what not to go with. Thanks my guy. Cant wait to see this build come together.. bass out
I cooked on 3 layers pain in ass but worked on my van. I used a torpedo heater to get it soft first then torches
I have a Question Derrick , I am about to rip all of my cheap crappy KilMat out of my truck and go with the Ampere Vibraflex or Sundown deadner , but the question is , it’s gonna be in my daily build so when I do the inside of the doors , I will be limited to cooking every inch because well there’s very Touch small cavities to reach through to cook and Roll the deadner .
I don’t want to cut my outside panel off and weld it back on the door just to deadner it .
Do you have any advice for me ?
Stuff is a pain to work with, but is very strong and it shows on the meter.
Did you do anything to floor infront of b piller?
Totally awesomeness brother
Bro..u need some lights in video
.always so dark In your car videos
Agreed
There's really nothing else to see. The deadener is black too so you'd just be staring at black deadener.
@@UnofficialAudio but as a tutorial you leave the video not knowing what texture it's supposed to take. Don't get me wrong, I'm probably never gonna need to install this and I enjoyed the video, just thought it'd be good to consider
Hi I have a question for yall. I have two sundown x15 d4 and a sundown 4000watt amp. I wired the subs to a 1ohm load, and the subs are barely moving and the bass knob keeps say that the subs are clipping
Did you say cook it on?
Damn bro right on Thursday lol
you got to cook it!
Lookin for some input for a trunk build In a 04 accord. I think I want to go with one 15" in a sealed box. Reason is power, I don't have a lot and I want to get the most out of it. Now from what I understand when you use a vented box you lose an estimated amount of amplifier power, and control and longevity of the woofer for a small peak to peak range of freq. so I think I want a sealed box for better music reproduction and longevity and efficiency. What sundown 15" sub would be best in a sealed box with my Rockford 1001bd 1083wrms @2 ohms amp? Are the blow through style 4th and sixth order boxes I see everywhere that incredible or is it more for competition? Aero port..any opinions over expensive kerf cut boxes? If you design a box that is larger than the speakers Ts specs how much larger of a box can you go before it's a problem controlling the woofer and damaging things? Sometimes I see these huge boxes and wonder no way that's a spec box for that 8"/s in a 4 cube box..is that because it's grossly over powered and the amp can control the sub/s or what?
All and any useful input is greatly appreciated. Thank you BassHeadsRule
bigger box is more efficient, can get same results with less power, handling more power in it will most likely blow a sub, ported uses less power than sealed and if you want a box to listen to a variety of stuff I suggest a 4th order, fairly simple to build, you need to see what the ebp of whatever sub you want to put in anything below 100 can be used in 4th order or sealed box, closer you get to 0 is better for sealed, 100 ebp is usually only good for ported/6th order, good luck!
Random Roger thank you I will keep this in mind as I get ready to build a box. Now to get that number I devide fs. And qes. Correct?
@@ostube6035 yes
That's H AND H technologies. Not Vibraflex. Slightly different product requires less heat actually vs real vibra and the glass plastic beads. Just keep in mind that if it has the honey comb style it's h and h. If it's wrinkly it's Vibraflex.
PS heat gun works great. Just need to soak it.
-Anton, the deadener guy
This stuff is not from anywhere called H and H Technologies.
@@UnofficialAudio I don't doubt it could be from somewhere else that manufactures with the same machines they do. I just know alot of people get Vibraflex and straight bitumen dampeners confused. Typically the stuff with the honey comb is more for the industrial application (sinks, HVAC, studios) it lacks the polymer blend, not saying you can't find the honey comb and polymer blend but certainly is what I have found.
Yes sir heat heat and more heat!!
How much vibraflex did you end up using on the blazer
Not done yet
Ima guess between 50, 65 square feet
Way more then that to do the whole truck
@@rickcreations1320 true probly closer to 125
@@hinesvillebass6742 good guess
where do you get that stuff?
Best place I know right now is Pure Pressure Audio. www.purepressureaudio.com/
why not just use 3/4 birch and 8x pl ....!! ??
This is an spl build and that is illegal in competition.
Depends in the class you wanna compete in
This isn’t an Extreme vehicle bud
Stock cabin
No problem installing it incentral FL during the summer, youll lose a few pounds in the process too 😂
More how to videos
cook it on boys😎
Why use this instead of normal deadener
And would have been nice to see it lol can’t see anything with roof being black lol
This is an spl build where strength is important and vibraflex is the strongest stuff there is.
I’m a dB drag spl competitor from Australia (ask jockers he knows me lol) I’m mainly asking as my corsa has anywhere from 3 to 6 layers of “deadener” in most areas and yes I did see gains from this, so I was just interested in how much an if there was a lot of difference, be in mind we most likely can’t get that here in Australia but I’m always keen to see how things stack up against each other
P.s love that some one on UA-cam is doing a proper spl build unlike sound man and fab kitchen lol
@@bdaudio9395 theres dB drag in australia? where? I've done a ton of searching and not come across anything yet
UniCrafter lol yea just jump on term pro all our scores are there and we have a a lot of competitors in Sydney and Queensland and a few in Melbourne and odd ones scattered over the rest of Australia lol
have to be really devoted to sound deaden, as that would take a lot more time to install compared to the peel and stick (dynamat) material. nice video.
No doubt vibraflex isn't for everyone. It's for more than just sound deadening. It's for panel strengthening.
Shop light :)
Why didn't you sound deaden the back part of the roof before installing the box? That would have made more sense.
That makes ZERO sense. It would be a waste of sound deadener. That entire area is filled with wood and expanding foam. Having deadener in there would make ZERO difference except wasting time & money.
that's not Vibraflex ...
hard to see what your doing ..need lighting
There's nothing extra to see.
Sundown Audio unofficial You said we were going to see the texture change.
Some lights would have been nice
There was nothing extra to see
Good video. Needs more nudity tho.
Why not use second skin,that's a lot of work.
Vibraflex is WAYYYYYY BETTER
This is an spl build where strength means everything. Vibraflex is the absolute best stuff out there for panel strength.