What do yall think of the new intros?. Do you think this cap bank will be big enough? What's your thoughts on the tubes? Let me know here in the comments. Thanks!
This is just amazing - never seen anything like this before. Can't wait to see (and hear) this in person. Ear plugs will be mandatory - I bet you'll be able to give people nose bleeds with this!!
Amazing work and I love that you’re pretty much baring all with this build. I remember back in the day a lot of the loud guys wouldn’t even let you look in their car. You’re just like fuck it this is exactly what I’m doing lol.
I was on your Instagram page earlier. Now you have me over here considering caps. If I could get a super power it would be to time lapse in real life haha. Keep up the great work Project SPL FTW!
Derrick. You have a phlegmatic personality. Your appy and sad are so close to each oter it takes a true friend to know them apart. Thr upside, youre reliable like a granite boulder. Amazing work dude!
Dude. Much respect for what you do man. To have cut all of that out and not just have someone cut them out on a machine is awesome. Can't wait to see what this thing will do when you are done!
Damn man that's alot of wood work lol but that thing is looking more and more beautiful everytime you post an update... love the work, keep kicking ass!!!
Love the new intro. That was a great surprise to see the cap banks already there. I believe you have plenty of caps and some to spare. The tubes look awesome. I know it's a lot of work man, but it's coming together very nicely. I think it will all be worth it in the end. Keep up the awesome work. Looking forward to the next update.
Sorry couldn't help it... Watched to the end and COULDN'T keep my mouth shut! I'M SURE IT'S A HIGH TO YOU CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU LOVE EVERY MIN OF IT AND AT THE END WHEN YOU CRAWLED INTO YOUR " MASTERPIECE" YOUR EYES GREW AND GREW AS YOU EXPLAINED YOUR RELIEF AND HAPPINESS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE! I'M HAPPY FOR YOU! IT'S YOUR "BABY".... In all honestly looks like a MR 6.5 CREATION ON A HUGE SCALE... AND Anyone in the know will tell you what he does with that box is NOTHING short of AMAZING! And what CAMERA were you using on that shot of the above table saw the saw dust was like I was there... WHATEVER CAMERA that is great I mean GREAT QUALITY!
Watching you cut those made me want to send you some thick aluminum 18" round stock to save you the pain hahah. As a wood and metal fabricator I can say I bet you're going to get a good night of sleep after cutting all them.
I’ve Always loved the performance of tubes compared to square enclosures. Tubes can be made very light due to the nature of the round shape itself very hard to stretch and compress. With a common squared enclosure you would need lots of bracing and even so, sometimes there’s a little bit of flex going on. Of course you can have a very solid squared enclosure for SPL the damn thing will be so heavy it will be pretty much the weight of the vehicle itself to avoid issues. Tubes are solid. Good example is carbon nanotubes used in science.
you get more amperage out of the less caps you have in series... he plans on overcharging them to make up his voltage i guess. guess he doesnt care if they fail long term from the overcharging .
From what I understand you will get more amperage for a longer time if you start with a higher voltage on these super caps because when you drop the voltage on the caps ,say 2.7 down to 2 , they still have more than 60% of there power left , therefore if you have 5 in series your down to 10 volts and you still have a lot of juice left in the caps , I think you will get more power by having 6 in series and charging to 16 volts . Unless he competing in a voltage limited class I see no good reason for 5,thanks for you reply
Nice bro!!!! That really looked like a lot of work but I bet the end result will be amazing! I'm looking to redo my system later this year. I have an 04 Acura TL with 2 12" Skar VVXv3 in the trunk. I have a JBL GTO 1400.1 powering them. They slam hard but I want a set of the SA-15's in the trunk, just because I want to keep my amp for now.
Hi Derrick, loving the videos! Have you ever thought of trying to kerf the cylinders instead of stack fab ? I don't even know if its possible but would save a tonne of wood, sundown for the win !!!!!
Great job , Two questions . Can those tubes be used for music applications ? What did you do to feel the cover the hole on top of truck where you poured the foam .
I did some math and yeah those caps should be able to put out quite a shitton of power for spl purposes. Hell they could power my system for over a minute with only a drop of 1v with no power going in.
Well Derek I am super impressed with everything you have done making an awesome step by step educational series of videos. I have currently replaced my 18s with U series aswel. I Was wondering if from your experience and knowledge of Sundown products you could give me an ideal cube to run my 2 U18s to burp at using rings.
I dont know about 5 in series especially with no balancing devices i dont know how sensitive they are if an extra volt will just degrade them or how much it takes before they blow up
All this hate you’ve been getting for being informative on Facebook is hilarious. I’m sure I don’t know every little detail but from what I did see others are mad because you showed real world accurate comparison information. The build looks to be coming along nice too, I’ll be watching for more updates.
Know that all the guys crying about what I'm doing are all guys that don't do this in real life (competition). I'm a real life competitor, not some keyboard jockey that talks theories and data sheets.
I believe that 100%. You seem like a good honest guy and that’s a fairly rare trait today, especially in the car audio world. You got my support and respect. Ill continue to watch your videos👍👍
I loved the intro driving in. It set up what was to come and made the video exciting to watch because I'm waiting for the fun stuff. Those caps are way more than I expected when you see them all together like that. I had a question on charging them - do they hold a charge overnight? Or do they bleed the charge off on their own or with heal/cooling cycles, etc? Sawdust everywhere was awesome! Epic time lapse!!!
WOW , I know you got a smoking deal on them , but With the cap Buss bars & 120 caps show , if my math is right that's about 9 thousand worth of stuff , guess I will have to wait for the build bteakdown
My God man!!! Two words; CNC Router!!!! Next time make a mold and use engineered concrete! That build looks like a lot of fun. Best part is the space you have. Did you ever get to 170Db?
Hey no cell phones while you're working! Lmao! Are you gonna do a video on how you wire all that stuff? I've been kinda intrigued about how people wire in all the batteries and caps and alternators and stuff
You may have answered this earlier and I just forgot but are you going to paint or wrap the body anything like the van or just gonna wipe her down and let it rip?
OK now ive got a ? on the caps end of things, ive always just added more batteries ive seen alot of caps never tried them as there is so much negatives about them honestly ive heard more negatives about caps then anything. Whats the deal with caps? Personally i cant say anything about them as ive never owned caps before tho lol they do look better price wise then buying battery after battery.
Caps are great for burps. Way better than batteries in that scenario. Batteries are better for long term playing music. In my opinion a mix of the two is ideal for every setup.
@@UnofficialAudio This is part the reason I'm watching this series. Caps have been getting a bad rep for no reason. They have a legit use and it makes me happy to see you using them like this.
Caps got a bad rep because 1 farad does nothing. Maybe some voltage smoothing, might reduce headlight dimming, but compare 3 old 1 farad caps to a single AGM totalling the same cost, and the AGM is 100x better. But, technology has progressed, and 500 farad competes with an AGM no problem for current delivery, though is smaller and lighter. Energy storage still needs to catch up, right now caps can store about 10% of the power of an equivalent size AGM or lithium. For burps though they're second to none.
@@UnofficialAudio AAhh ok because I know they are designed to charge and discharge fast, makes sense to use them in the case for burping a setup as you only need shit loads of power on big setup's for a few secs. So in another words batteries for long playing times and caps for burping to assist batteries. I got it now. Its like nos for a motor gives a short bust of power to the motor. Thank you for clearing that up ive always been up in the air about caps. Never really seen them on setups well really any setup, main reason i asked is because of my new amp i got i know im short on the battery end SPECIALLY when i burp my setup, i should be using at min 6 batteries with my amp tho im only running 3 ya it sucks lol. Thank you for the response.
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What do yall think of the new intros?. Do you think this cap bank will be big enough? What's your thoughts on the tubes? Let me know here in the comments. Thanks!
This is a 4th order correct?
@@DibeezyTheGifted Yes its a 4th order. These tubes will be the individual sealed sections for the subs.
You better hit a 160db with this setup bro
I mean, that music...
@@streamplug6070 he's going for 170s haha. Real shit
Your a fuckin machine brah! Excellent work so far!
Great job derrick. 👌👌👌👌 love the videos. Keep them coming👍
Get that router table secure. You work fast. Sign of a seasoned vet. Good shit. This shits gonna pound without question. This series is dope AF.
Crazy build , great work 👍👍
This is just amazing - never seen anything like this before. Can't wait to see (and hear) this in person. Ear plugs will be mandatory - I bet you'll be able to give people nose bleeds with this!!
Amazing work and I love that you’re pretty much baring all with this build. I remember back in the day a lot of the loud guys wouldn’t even let you look in their car. You’re just like fuck it this is exactly what I’m doing lol.
it's coming together pretty fast you are dedicated and a hard working dude can't wait till it's done.😎
I was on your Instagram page earlier. Now you have me over here considering caps. If I could get a super power it would be to time lapse in real life haha. Keep up the great work Project SPL FTW!
So much science involved ! Great progress 👍 thanks for letting us see it all go down
Derrick. You have a phlegmatic personality. Your appy and sad are so close to each oter it takes a true friend to know them apart. Thr upside, youre reliable like a granite boulder.
Amazing work dude!
great video! its nice to see every piece of the builds documented like this, looking forward to the rest!
Your channel has become my new favorite car audio channel... Thanks for all the knowledge and cool videos... Keep them coming 👍
It was honestly so amusing to watch you cut and assemble those tubes.
There is no substitute for experience. Brilliant work Sir!!!!
I cant wait to see this done wish you all the best
Awe dude, props to you man, I feel your pride and excitement at the end of the vid there man xx
Would like to see you do a video on the box design and what type it is considered and everything like that
Great job! Hard work and dedication pay off.
Man them tubes will be perfect. Experience and all your test runs. Knowledge is king
Really enjoying these frequent updates with so much being done. Great work!
Trying to get an update done at least every couple days. Things are progressing fast now that I have a bunch of supplies in and ready to go.
Awesome vids.
U are the man.. fantastic job..keep up the great work..this what being a basshead is all about.
#Bass 4 Ever
Dude. Much respect for what you do man. To have cut all of that out and not just have someone cut them out on a machine is awesome. Can't wait to see what this thing will do when you are done!
Damn man that's alot of wood work lol but that thing is looking more and more beautiful everytime you post an update... love the work, keep kicking ass!!!
Holy cow you aure are kicking butt getting mad progress accomplished on your build up project
Hard work pays off always
Super caps instead of batteries. Nice. You must have some powerful alternators to keep up with em.
My tubes were definitely louder! I gotta agree with you, I did 4 t2 15s in 4 massive tubes...we refer to them as bass cannons lol!
IM HERE FOR THE TIME LAPSE "BEAT" LOL 😆 💯💪🏼🔊
Love the new intro. That was a great surprise to see the cap banks already there. I believe you have plenty of caps and some to spare. The tubes look awesome. I know it's a lot of work man, but it's coming together very nicely. I think it will all be worth it in the end. Keep up the awesome work. Looking forward to the next update.
Very nice indeed ser!!!👍
Looks great I'm very impressed can't wait until it's finished and I think CJ on 32s sent you a shout-out for hooking him up with the amp
Doing great work! Keep it up!
Scott did the same with his and all SAS enclosures are round tube as well. It's been a proven concept for many years.
Sorry couldn't help it... Watched to the end and COULDN'T keep my mouth shut! I'M SURE IT'S A HIGH TO YOU CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU LOVE EVERY MIN OF IT AND AT THE END WHEN YOU CRAWLED INTO YOUR " MASTERPIECE" YOUR EYES GREW AND GREW AS YOU EXPLAINED YOUR RELIEF AND HAPPINESS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE! I'M HAPPY FOR YOU! IT'S YOUR "BABY".... In all honestly looks like a MR 6.5 CREATION ON A HUGE SCALE... AND Anyone in the know will tell you what he does with that box is NOTHING short of AMAZING! And what CAMERA were you using on that shot of the above table saw the saw dust was like I was there... WHATEVER CAMERA that is great I mean GREAT QUALITY!
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Great video as always 😊
Don't forget xtra PRETTY....you have got to keep the trolls happy..😨...I cant wait to see how it turns out....keep up the good work
wow. I love you guys job. I always want my sound to be all sundown. Can I get some sample? ✌
Watching you cut those made me want to send you some thick aluminum 18" round stock to save you the pain hahah. As a wood and metal fabricator I can say I bet you're going to get a good night of sleep after cutting all them.
That enclosure is gonna be insane!
Hey at least you got a good head start on the tubes for when you go 15s. You can just use the centers of the rings to make the 15 rings
You put alot of work in
I’ve Always loved the performance of tubes compared to square enclosures. Tubes can be made very light due to the nature of the round shape itself very hard to stretch and compress. With a common squared enclosure you would need lots of bracing and even so, sometimes there’s a little bit of flex going on. Of course you can have a very solid squared enclosure for SPL the damn thing will be so heavy it will be pretty much the weight of the vehicle itself to avoid issues. Tubes are solid. Good example is carbon nanotubes used in science.
Building anything to go boom is exciting. 😂
Joking lol, but i love the build man. Badass! You gonna hit that 172 for sure man 👌🏻.
Great video and testing info at the end!
Definitely looks insane
This is sick dude!!! I love this channel!!
That is my goal for cells but I want to run some yinlong 40ah lto cells. Loving the update videos. Can't wait till it's ready.
👊great job
Why banks of 5 , would 6 be better , please explain, and by the way that looked like the hardest part of the build great stamina
you get more amperage out of the less caps you have in series... he plans on overcharging them to make up his voltage i guess. guess he doesnt care if they fail long term from the overcharging .
From what I understand you will get more amperage for a longer time if you start with a higher voltage on these super caps because when you drop the voltage on the caps ,say 2.7 down to 2 , they still have more than 60% of there power left , therefore if you have 5 in series your down to 10 volts and you still have a lot of juice left in the caps , I think you will get more power by having 6 in series and charging to 16 volts . Unless he competing in a voltage limited class I see no good reason for 5,thanks for you reply
The new intro is cool, I really like it.
👍👍👍
Do you have any data sheets to back up that the circle tubes are louder?
haha lol
Yeah it called experience
@@russellwilkey390 it's an inside joke. Its ok
My bad
AHHHHHH!! YOU BEAT ME TO IT!!!! I swear I was about to say "data sheets say that octogons are louder. You're wrong Derrick." 😂🤣😂🤣😂
That's alot of super caps. U may need a couple chargers in order to keep them up too par. Or a couple alternators.
Nice bro!!!! That really looked like a lot of work but I bet the end result will be amazing! I'm looking to redo my system later this year. I have an 04 Acura TL with 2 12" Skar VVXv3 in the trunk. I have a JBL GTO 1400.1 powering them. They slam hard but I want a set of the SA-15's in the trunk, just because I want to keep my amp for now.
Hi Derrick, loving the videos!
Have you ever thought of trying to kerf the cylinders instead of stack fab ?
I don't even know if its possible but would save a tonne of wood, sundown for the win !!!!!
Its possible but extremely difficult and not as strong
Dude you are a beast! 👍
Great job , Two questions . Can those tubes be used for music applications ? What did you do to feel the cover the hole on top of truck where you poured the foam .
How did you know how many rings you need like for the air space
Who makes XS caps? are they the black maxwells or that one other brand
What was the air space for each sub? How tall was each tube?
I can't wait 👍👍👍👍👍
The thing about hard work, it will either pay off, or it will kill ya!!
Think of all the smaller size rings you could now make with those remaining blanks 🤣
...or defuser baffles.
Door pods ????
I did some math and yeah those caps should be able to put out quite a shitton of power for spl purposes. Hell they could power my system for over a minute with only a drop of 1v with no power going in.
The intro is COOL 👍👍
you got it bad..... basshead.
is there rehab for this ish.
1+1=0.5 and 6ga "power wire" = speaker wire! keep up the hard work its beautiful.
Since you rarely see tubes on a musical 4th is it better to have a common chamber over each sub in its own tube per say
I built the Sundown demo van with individual tubes in a very low tuned musical 4th order.
Well Derek I am super impressed with everything you have done making an awesome step by step educational series of videos. I have currently replaced my 18s with U series aswel. I Was wondering if from your experience and knowledge of Sundown products you could give me an ideal cube to run my 2 U18s to burp at using rings.
I feel bad you had to hand cut all those rings ... you should of swept all the dust into a big pile , just curious how much was there 😊
There was a lot
@@UnofficialAudio are the tubes made from Baltic birch or mdf
Love this build. So much new information. If I play the video at double speed does the project get done faster? Lol!
What's the tubic feet of the tubes?
I dont know about 5 in series especially with no balancing devices i dont know how sensitive they are if an extra volt will just degrade them or how much it takes before they blow up
Derek what is that tool behind the saw that hold the excess sheet. As a builder i neeeeeed this
I call it a roller stand. Dont know any more technical name for it.
All this hate you’ve been getting for being informative on Facebook is hilarious. I’m sure I don’t know every little detail but from what I did see others are mad because you showed real world accurate comparison information. The build looks to be coming along nice too, I’ll be watching for more updates.
Know that all the guys crying about what I'm doing are all guys that don't do this in real life (competition). I'm a real life competitor, not some keyboard jockey that talks theories and data sheets.
I believe that 100%. You seem like a good honest guy and that’s a fairly rare trait today, especially in the car audio world. You got my support and respect. Ill continue to watch your videos👍👍
I loved the intro driving in. It set up what was to come and made the video exciting to watch because I'm waiting for the fun stuff.
Those caps are way more than I expected when you see them all together like that. I had a question on charging them - do they hold a charge overnight? Or do they bleed the charge off on their own or with heal/cooling cycles, etc?
Sawdust everywhere was awesome! Epic time lapse!!!
What's the diffrence between tubes and a port with flared ends
WOW , I know you got a smoking deal on them , but With the cap Buss bars & 120 caps show , if my math is right that's about 9 thousand worth of stuff , guess I will have to wait for the build bteakdown
My God man!!! Two words; CNC Router!!!! Next time make a mold and use engineered concrete! That build looks like a lot of fun. Best part is the space you have. Did you ever get to 170Db?
I think the sundown logo should stay up there a lil longer because it's fire💪
How much is a bank like that?
Tuned in to your SPL build. Will it be ready by The Jeff Lockhart Memorial Show in May?
Yes I'm planning on having it there
Awesome vid Derrick. Love the timelaps. I guess you got tired of routerwork that day huh? 😂
Are you going have to do major redesign/refabrication once you go to the 6 15s?
No the six 15"s will slide right in.
Are you using birch for the whole build??
Yes authentic Baltic birch straight from Russia
Why 5 caps instead of 6. XS kept telling me the other day to use 6 even though I'm not going to be going above 15 volts. Amp is only rated to 15
They can't tell you to use them out of spec. Liability thing.
How are you going to use these tubes? For ports? Or to hold the sub??
They will be the individual sealed sections of the 4th order bandpass wall
Yo I truly appreciate u show step by step what it takes to BUILD a real BURRRPP system. Educate the idiots of this world. It ain't easy as u can see🤔.
Hey no cell phones while you're working! Lmao! Are you gonna do a video on how you wire all that stuff? I've been kinda intrigued about how people wire in all the batteries and caps and alternators and stuff
Trippy
How much was it for that pallet of birch ?
You are on a mission man ive seen you on everything getting ready for this season.
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
@@brandoncantrell3317 you better believe it there not many good lumber yards up here in north Georgia
@@elsey1976 lol sure
My kid talked about that demo you gave us for a week man we cant wait to here the new setup
Holy moly that's enough field day EMT device
Are these tubes gonna be the sealed section for the subs?
Yes
Im first! Years of wasting my life watching UA-cam videos wishing it was me has finally paid off! 😂😂😂
Actually you weren’t first
Said no views when i got here 😂. Idgaf tho lmao. It's not like you get a prize dude, i was just joking around lmfao.
Hence the comment above clearly stating that i was joking. Just incase you missed that.
dmncanter are you okay? You seem upset buddy. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. You can be first another time man.
I wish i could put some smartass gifs in here 😂😂😂. You can be first this time dad. God will allow. Only this time though...
Keep the cut out circles for doing 15" circles or 12's.
I’m still kinda confused on what the tubes you keep talking about. What are they for
They're the individual sealed sections for the 4th order bandpass wall
unofficial gotcha.. thanks man...
You may have answered this earlier and I just forgot but are you going to paint or wrap the body anything like the van or just gonna wipe her down and let it rip?
Yes its getting a wrap
@@UnofficialAudio Sweet! Can't wait to see it at Slam!
OK now ive got a ? on the caps end of things, ive always just added more batteries ive seen alot of caps never tried them as there is so much negatives about them honestly ive heard more negatives about caps then anything. Whats the deal with caps? Personally i cant say anything about them as ive never owned caps before tho lol they do look better price wise then buying battery after battery.
Caps are great for burps. Way better than batteries in that scenario. Batteries are better for long term playing music. In my opinion a mix of the two is ideal for every setup.
@@UnofficialAudio This is part the reason I'm watching this series. Caps have been getting a bad rep for no reason. They have a legit use and it makes me happy to see you using them like this.
I've been using caps for years. They're fine as long as you use them properly. If you don't know what you're doing things can go bad fast.
Caps got a bad rep because 1 farad does nothing. Maybe some voltage smoothing, might reduce headlight dimming, but compare 3 old 1 farad caps to a single AGM totalling the same cost, and the AGM is 100x better. But, technology has progressed, and 500 farad competes with an AGM no problem for current delivery, though is smaller and lighter. Energy storage still needs to catch up, right now caps can store about 10% of the power of an equivalent size AGM or lithium. For burps though they're second to none.
@@UnofficialAudio AAhh ok because I know they are designed to charge and discharge fast, makes sense to use them in the case for burping a setup as you only need shit loads of power on big setup's for a few secs. So in another words batteries for long playing times and caps for burping to assist batteries. I got it now. Its like nos for a motor gives a short bust of power to the motor. Thank you for clearing that up ive always been up in the air about caps. Never really seen them on setups well really any setup, main reason i asked is because of my new amp i got i know im short on the battery end SPECIALLY when i burp my setup, i should be using at min 6 batteries with my amp tho im only running 3 ya it sucks lol. Thank you for the response.