I had a 2012 jetta TDI premium with fender sound system and right out from factory my car had this sort of mat on inside of door! here is one of reasons why german cars have been always known for quality also if you use adequate ammount of this stuff it will make the door in your prius close like in mercedes class S lol
I am about to perform what you did here on my very old Octavia. Your explanation and method was both top notch and crystal clear. Before this, I was nervous about the entire process but I feel more confident now. I will never forget your help with this. Thank you very much.
Awesome! Love your videos! I thought it was great how you did a comparison of the before/after measurements of the sound response. It helps to really depict how much of an improvement you can make by performing something like this.
I did this. Covered the whole inner side of the door with foam sheets. End result is reduced road noise. One drawback I feel is that the speakers lost a bit of mid range. But bass became so tight.
@@christojoseph2476 I’ve only found improvements in sound quality cause it reduces the resonance. If your sound was using the metal vibration from the door to transmit sound, that’s not ideal but I guess it could be possible
Really appreciated the way you explain sound damping. I have done the same thing to my car ..the bass, middle and treble improves a lot...but the problem is, without damping I didn't feel any ear pain, but after damping I felt stressed ear after listening music for long time..
I would really take the time/effort to put the car in the air, and get some of that stuff you can coat the wheel wells with. I believe there's a company in arizona that makes some non toxic smelling stuff you can use... Going through that process with my 370z...
That stuff looks wonderful! I just hate the expense of sound treatments in general... That stuff's a bit pricy, but seeing as it combines two layers in one roll, it's not as expensive as some. :)
other then the green tesa if you want a cheaper option I've used cling wrap. its saran wrap for leftover food storage or whatever but it's basically sticky saran wrap. it's made from glad.
I love that you took the time to replace the large piece that covers door holes. Also I would use spray on boom mat for the plastic panels and sound skins or a cheaper roofing insulation roll very simular to what you used to save a little money on a personal project.
Is it odd that I’m looking up videos on how to sound proof my car and I have an impala that is white and has a tan interior just like this one and I come across this video?
I like to put some sound treatment on the insides of where my cupholers are and console storage and parts of it where change and other stuff my end up, its helps a lot
I have a Monte Carlo the same generation as this Impala and a full system. I need this how much does it run? There is tons of rattling in my car on the rear deck, really ,roof, and doors
+CarAudioFabrication Thank you for another great video. Did you use the "doorkit" for your video? Do you think you'd need 2 "doorkits" to do all four doors on the Impala? I'm trying to gauge how many doors the "doorkit" would cover. I know there are a lot of variables in door size and what not, but just a general estimation?
can you post the differences between the cheaper sound deadening material like NOICE 80 mil butyl compared to the soundskin. I'm considering buying the mega pack soundskins but I want to see if its a worthy investment.
Ryan Kean i used Noico on my convertible and it helped a ton with reducing road noise and my car stays warmer inside for longer during winter. I would recommend it
If you can't afford this, then buy the cheaper product. No need for somebody to do a comparison for you. Car Audio is like making your car fast. Fast, Cheap, Reliable = You can only pick two and the same applies to Car Audio. Many of the less expensive alternatives are not designed for enclosed spaces...
I just bought a 2019 VW and installed a sub, the rattles from the trunk were killing the sound so as of today I am getting this done on the trunk and all 4 doors. Ill keep you posted on how it turns out and if its a noticeable sound and noise difference. I hope so!
Awesome. Now to figure out how to do this on the cheap. Looked up yoga mat + sound dampening and got a ton of results. Now what to paint it with too enhance the effectiveness.
I did apply the deadening sheets similar way but I'm not impressed with midbass response, I don't know why, maybe I need to get used to it. Door became a little heavier and nice closing "clunk" sound, reduced vibrations. Applied on both metal sheets, inside and outside.
This car already had some decent sound deadening covers on. I can imagine the improvements on those with only thin plastic. Especially if amplified sound system
Thanks for another relevant and awesome video..... Can you do an episode on the use of sound processors such as the Audio Control Lc7i in future installs.
If any of you were wondering just like i was, the clear green tape that Mark used to outline the cutout of the SoundSkins is called “TESA-51136” made by a German company named “Tesa”. It is very expensive, averaging about $150 per roll. I wish there was a cheaper off-brand version of this that i could buy so i can accurately create a template for my Dynamat. Mark can you please help me?
I think you can use the protective film that car dealers put on the floors of cars to protect them from wear before sale. Which is same thing that realtors put down to protect carpet at open houses. Available at Home Depot, I think, and certainly on Amazon. Way cheaper!
It's an old video but most sheets help reduce vibrations in the door thus making sound better. Without sheets, vibrations make it difficult to hear certain frequencies when music is playing.
One thing I can't figure out is why most OEM vapor barriers have a very deliberate extrusion into the open hole of the door for no obvious purpose. As a result, I wonder if I should necessarily recreate this bump in with the replacement sound deadening material. If the OEMs put the extra effort into producing this form for the barrier, there must be a significant tested reason but its purpose isn't clearly obvious and all sound deadening applicators seem to ignore it by flatly covering over the opening. Are you aware of the OEMs intended purpose for this vapor barrier design?
I've watched a few of these videos and can't understand one point I keep hearing come up: closing off the inner door skin to keep the back wave from canceling the front wave. If the speaker is properly sealed to the door card, then the back wave can't interfere with the front wave. Which is a lot easier than going through all of those steps to seal off the inner door skin. Granted, it will reduce noise levels, presumably significantly. But insulating the inside of the door card would do that as well, which is also much easier than all of those steps on the inner door skin. It seems like mass loading the outer door skin, sealing/coupling the speaker to the door card, and insulating the door card will achieve the same effect with much less work and materials. Am I missing somethin?
Do I need to sound dampen my front doors if the only aftermarket speakers I have are two 12" subs (Kicker L7Ss) which are aimed upwards in the back of my SUV (Ford Edge)?
I have a 2004 Colorado 4 doors, my little set of mid speakers were only $60 I wanted so bad to install this skin sound treatment but that roll it’s more expensive than what I thought I don’t even know how many rolls I would need :,( $90 a roll it’s expensive
it will cost more then your truck. makes no since unless your doing like spl audio build or your crazy rich and in love with the truck. get yourself some rubberized undercoating and some printer paper.
aztecafily1524 , go to Home Depot and buy the roofing ice shield, self stick rubber membrane, does the same thing, buy a roll of foil tape, to cover it if you want to.
Thank you! I am looking to sound treat my 2015 Jetta Hybrid and 2014 BMW Z4. I'll keep researching to learn more. I'd appreciate any more advice you can give! Cheers.
The only problem I see with covering the holes in the door is that you'll have to remove the insulation to get to the window regulator to replace it and/or replace the window. And if there's cabling running along the door that would be problematic also.
In my personal vehicles I have to find the balance between Sq and weight.Oh and btw Tesa tape is awesome. I have a pair of pants with a "patch" that is nothing more than some waterproof tesa tape and it has held up for months lol.
Mark, love the videos! However i would enjoy if you could start doing a before and after comparison in sound by actually recording songs via camera playing in the car before builds and modifications then after
I do not have such sound deadening materials here in Fiji such as soundshield. Could you please give an alternative solution od which type of material i could use as a sound deadening material on my vehicle?...thanks. big fan 😊
Would treating the door panel be the same on a car with plastic outer panels, such as a Saturn(I own a 2002 Saturn S-series)..great video and very informative
Mark you should test GP car audio's STFUv2 sound proofing material. Your opinion would help me make my decision on which sound dampening material to use. Thanks for all you do & keep up the great work.
So that butyl adhesive back is cool to have exposed on the inside of your door? If that's the case it is going to make replacing the vapour barrier for my power window conversion a lot easier
Im thinking of doing this to my camaro for my sound system. Lots of rattles and road noises but my car is fiberglass its ment to be light and fast. But i have no mid bass what so ever. So this is tempting. have you ever done a camaro with fiberglass doors?
What about access to the window regulator? Can the insulation you used to cover the big hole in the sheet metal be removed to allow access to the window parts and still have the same effect?
For how many Rms subwoofer do you need to cover the floor and top of the cover if thats a need. And do you need anything apart from single deadner sheet.. Flex sheet, foam etc..
I really would a loved to hear a before and after of the road noise!
This should really be a option on new cars
Good idea. Right from the factory.
I wonder if a true deadening treatment would cost to many man hours on their side. But certainly s option I would pay for if offered.
FSXgta its all about saving money for them.
They have it on luxury cars like Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Cadillac, etc. Just not as much as you want.
I had a 2012 jetta TDI premium with fender sound system and right out from factory my car had this sort of mat on inside of door! here is one of reasons why german cars have been always known for quality also if you use adequate ammount of this stuff it will make the door in your prius close like in mercedes class S lol
Corners should be cut at a round to lessen the peel off when it is hot or cold.
Thanks for the tip
I am about to perform what you did here on my very old Octavia. Your explanation and method was both top notch and crystal clear. Before this, I was nervous about the entire process but I feel more confident now. I will never forget your help with this. Thank you very much.
Awesome! Love your videos! I thought it was great how you did a comparison of the before/after measurements of the sound response. It helps to really depict how much of an improvement you can make by performing something like this.
I did this. Covered the whole inner side of the door with foam sheets. End result is reduced road noise. One drawback I feel is that the speakers lost a bit of mid range. But bass became so tight.
Thanks for the comment. Definitely not doing this for my pa mids
@@christojoseph2476 I’ve only found improvements in sound quality cause it reduces the resonance. If your sound was using the metal vibration from the door to transmit sound, that’s not ideal but I guess it could be possible
I also feel that, reduced vibrations and road noise but sound isn't that great, mid range is less now. It is 2018 Corolla.
Best video about sound deadening installation, “fresh” ideas and techniques !!!
Really appreciated the way you explain sound damping. I have done the same thing to my car ..the bass, middle and treble improves a lot...but the problem is, without damping I didn't feel any ear pain, but after damping I felt stressed ear after listening music for long time..
Might be your EQ or volume levels
This makes absolutely no sense as cutting down on sound intrusion like road noise should make the music easier to listen to
i need this just for the road noise in my car.
I would really take the time/effort to put the car in the air, and get some of that stuff you can coat the wheel wells with. I believe there's a company in arizona that makes some non toxic smelling stuff you can use... Going through that process with my 370z...
Jason Firth
07wrxtr1 get rid of that thing! Money pit machine!
+07wrxtr1 Did it work, quietening your 370Z?
Dont by cheap cars
If I had a nickel for every time Mark says Tesa Tape.
I love the background music used it reminds me of being a kid and watching cod zombies tutorials
That stuff looks wonderful! I just hate the expense of sound treatments in general... That stuff's a bit pricy, but seeing as it combines two layers in one roll, it's not as expensive as some. :)
other then the green tesa if you want a cheaper option I've used cling wrap. its saran wrap for leftover food storage or whatever but it's basically sticky saran wrap. it's made from glad.
I love that you took the time to replace the large piece that covers door holes. Also I would use spray on boom mat for the plastic panels and sound skins or a cheaper roofing insulation roll very simular to what you used to save a little money on a personal project.
Thanks for your videos, man! You have a fantastic approach to your work - great quality, and measured results - very inspiring & enjoyable to watch!
Is it odd that I’m looking up videos on how to sound proof my car and I have an impala that is white and has a tan interior just like this one and I come across this video?
Just had an alpine car play head unit and speakers installed into my 2010 Pontiac G8. Also had the front doors sound deadened. Sounds awesome.
Killer video Mark. Seriously one of the best most descriptive videos ever.
where can i get the film he uses in 3:55 i looked up tesa tape and tesa film and cant find anything other than tiny rolls
Great video!!! Very informative, zero useless chatter.
I like to put some sound treatment on the insides of where my cupholers are and console storage and parts of it where change and other stuff my end up, its helps a lot
I think JayzTwoCents would appreciate the background music lol
Who wants to get some sound treatment done in their ride?! :P
+CarAudioFabrication I do! This video definitely makes me want some!
+CarAudioFabrication I certainly do, looking up the product right now
One day I'd love to try second skin
I have a Monte Carlo the same generation as this Impala and a full system. I need this how much does it run? There is tons of rattling in my car on the rear deck, really ,roof, and doors
+CarAudioFabrication Thank you for another great video. Did you use the "doorkit" for your video? Do you think you'd need 2 "doorkits" to do all four doors on the Impala? I'm trying to gauge how many doors the "doorkit" would cover. I know there are a lot of variables in door size and what not, but just a general estimation?
Thanks Mark. I'm getting ready to install Kilmat 50mil butylfoil throughout the cab of my truck.
For road noise reduction, which one do you think is better, Dynamat or SoundSkin?
can you post the differences between the cheaper sound deadening material like NOICE 80 mil butyl compared to the soundskin. I'm considering buying the mega pack soundskins but I want to see if its a worthy investment.
Ryan Kean i used Noico on my convertible and it helped a ton with reducing road noise and my car stays warmer inside for longer during winter. I would recommend it
Dont just buy spectrum 1 gallon easy on n u will save alot
If you can't afford this, then buy the cheaper product. No need for somebody to do a comparison for you. Car Audio is like making your car fast. Fast, Cheap, Reliable = You can only pick two and the same applies to Car Audio. Many of the less expensive alternatives are not designed for enclosed spaces...
I really like the Soundskin, it is awesome. also, their speaker rings are my favorite.
Great tip on making the cardboard template!
If you are on an extremely tight budget, what level would you take and what materials would you use?
I have a full size car like the Impala
I just bought a 2019 VW and installed a sub, the rattles from the trunk were killing the sound so as of today I am getting this done on the trunk and all 4 doors. Ill keep you posted on how it turns out and if its a noticeable sound and noise difference. I hope so!
Thanks Mark that's awesome. Love the Tesa tape transfer first. Brilliant idea.
*wish I could like more than once.
I'm gathering from the video that the butyl material applied effectively replaces the vapor barrier that was installed by the manufacturer?
Yep will definitely do this to mine A3 once the weather gets better
BTW GREAT VIDEO!
Is it worth adding some command hooks for the cable runs and looms too? Just to keep them from moving loose?
I have left over rolls of butyl adhesive from working at a Basement waterproofing company And some other stuff that might work too
Thanks for making all this great content. I enjoy your channel. 😊.
Awesome. Now to figure out how to do this on the cheap.
Looked up yoga mat + sound dampening and got a ton of results. Now what to paint it with too enhance the effectiveness.
What a good, detailed video. I smashed that like button, even though I won't do it myself
sMaShEd dAt LiKe bUttOn 🥴😂
Mostly higher class car already put sound dampling on the panel, europe car for example. But for most japanese car really need this treatment.
I did apply the deadening sheets similar way but I'm not impressed with midbass response, I don't know why, maybe I need to get used to it. Door became a little heavier and nice closing "clunk" sound, reduced vibrations. Applied on both metal sheets, inside and outside.
Great video. Very informative. I never realized ,what a difference sound dampening makes.
The graph showed almost no difference.
Where does one obtain this ‘ultra wide transparent tesa tape’ ?
Or is there a different name for it? Or, a better product for doing the tracing part?
I ended up using some transparent construction floor protector stuff… works great.
Where did you place that small square on the door lock? I have the same car and couldn’t figure out exactly where you put that
6:32 guess you could say you… Tamed the Impala 😎
Amazing video. Thanks for sharing this. Exactly what I needed
Glad it was helpful!
This car already had some decent sound deadening covers on. I can imagine the improvements on those with only thin plastic. Especially if amplified sound system
Awesome! I learn alot watching your videos!
Do you have more videos of the build you did to this impala????
Thanks for another relevant and awesome video..... Can you do an episode on the use of sound processors such as the Audio Control Lc7i in future installs.
LCi7 is not a sound processor, it's a way to turn speaker level outputs to low level so you can run amps.
If any of you were wondering just like i was, the clear green tape that Mark used to outline the cutout of the SoundSkins is called “TESA-51136” made by a German company named “Tesa”. It is very expensive, averaging about $150 per roll. I wish there was a cheaper off-brand version of this that i could buy so i can accurately create a template for my Dynamat.
Mark can you please help me?
Bennett Deering , go to a craft store and get some tracing paper, use painters tape, the blue shit, just tape together, bingo, there ya go.
I think you can use the protective film that car dealers put on the floors of cars to protect them from wear before sale. Which is same thing that realtors put down to protect carpet at open houses. Available at Home Depot, I think, and certainly on Amazon. Way cheaper!
Nice video, very clear instructions. Did you toss the vapor barrier? I didn't see you reinstall it.
It's an old video but most sheets help reduce vibrations in the door thus making sound better. Without sheets, vibrations make it difficult to hear certain frequencies when music is playing.
@@AbidAli-bo8sv does it help improve SPL though?
Link to the sheet of "tesa tape" you used to make the template? Could have used this stuff when making my fiberglass frame for my underseat enclosure!
Yea I cant find the tape
One thing I can't figure out is why most OEM vapor barriers have a very deliberate extrusion into the open hole of the door for no obvious purpose. As a result, I wonder if I should necessarily recreate this bump in with the replacement sound deadening material. If the OEMs put the extra effort into producing this form for the barrier, there must be a significant tested reason but its purpose isn't clearly obvious and all sound deadening applicators seem to ignore it by flatly covering over the opening. Are you aware of the OEMs intended purpose for this vapor barrier design?
SayWhat? , evaporation of moisture is the only reason I can figure
Great vid...... Always top notch. Thanks!
Can you provide a link or model for that Tesa tape? I can only find 2" rolls. Thank you.
Nice work. Will make a note of this product. Looks like good stuff.
Can we get a link to info on pricing in the US? Looks like the site is still in progress and doesn't link to an authorized dealer.
+Tim Germany You can purchase it here: goo.gl/oS1UPL (Link is in the video description)
+CarAudioFabrication Ah thanks. Skimmed over the description and didn't seen it.
+Tim Germany Haha no problem.
I've watched a few of these videos and can't understand one point I keep hearing come up: closing off the inner door skin to keep the back wave from canceling the front wave.
If the speaker is properly sealed to the door card, then the back wave can't interfere with the front wave. Which is a lot easier than going through all of those steps to seal off the inner door skin. Granted, it will reduce noise levels, presumably significantly. But insulating the inside of the door card would do that as well, which is also much easier than all of those steps on the inner door skin.
It seems like mass loading the outer door skin, sealing/coupling the speaker to the door card, and insulating the door card will achieve the same effect with much less work and materials. Am I missing somethin?
Make a video on equalizer settings of head unit...
Do I need to sound dampen my front doors if the only aftermarket speakers I have are two 12" subs (Kicker L7Ss) which are aimed upwards in the back of my SUV (Ford Edge)?
I have a 2004 Colorado 4 doors, my little set of mid speakers were only $60 I wanted so bad to install this skin sound treatment but that roll it’s more expensive than what I thought I don’t even know how many rolls I would need :,(
$90 a roll it’s expensive
it will cost more then your truck. makes no since unless your doing like spl audio build or your crazy rich and in love with the truck. get yourself some rubberized undercoating and some printer paper.
aztecafily1524 , go to Home Depot and buy the roofing ice shield, self stick rubber membrane, does the same thing, buy a roll of foil tape, to cover it if you want to.
How does the sound skin, compare to the abs door enclosure you made?
point of revers camara cable
Thank you! I am looking to sound treat my 2015 Jetta Hybrid and 2014 BMW Z4. I'll keep researching to learn more. I'd appreciate any more advice you can give! Cheers.
Hey Mark, keep up the great work with attention to detail!
How can someone have a vehicle featured on your channel?
Do you have a video for sound deadening for rear deck speakers?
awesome video is always
CAF
for the win
+John Work Thanks man!
Is it recommanded to wind down the window glass first before removal of the door panel?
The only problem I see with covering the holes in the door is that you'll have to remove the insulation to get to the window regulator to replace it and/or replace the window. And if there's cabling running along the door that would be problematic also.
Glad I got an Impala too, installed it on floors too, way quieter lol
I so need to do this. Great vid thank you!
this is a lot simple than your previous door treatment vid!
Different levels of sound treatment
Could you send a link for the role of "tesa tape" you used?
I can only find 2" rolls
You ever find it? Now I need some.
In my personal vehicles I have to find the balance between Sq and weight.Oh and btw Tesa tape is awesome. I have a pair of pants with a "patch" that is nothing more than some waterproof tesa tape and it has held up for months lol.
I have a 2010 impala LTZ. Nice video
Had to SLAM! that like button and thank you for your time SIR
Very nice video. One the best
Thanks for the measurements!
Mark, love the videos! However i would enjoy if you could start doing a before and after comparison in sound by actually recording songs via camera playing in the car before builds and modifications then after
Love the videos Mark. Keep 'em coming...BTW...What RTA setup are you using here?
I do not have such sound deadening materials here in Fiji such as soundshield.
Could you please give an alternative solution od which type of material i could use as a sound deadening material on my vehicle?...thanks. big fan 😊
Cool, this product looks incredibly interesting!:)
If I'm removing the door panned should I also disconnect the battery beforehand? Are there any errors on the computer that could appear?
Super dope since I got an Impala, I will give this a try to help! thank you!
I do! Great video brother!
Would treating the door panel be the same on a car with plastic outer panels, such as a Saturn(I own a 2002 Saturn S-series)..great video and very informative
Nice vid mark
Mark you should test GP car audio's STFUv2 sound proofing material. Your opinion would help me make my decision on which sound dampening material to use. Thanks for all you do & keep up the great work.
for inside the doors i put 3 layers of that stuff in each door and 1 layer on the ceiling of the car works much better than 1 layer
Can someone please tell me what he exactly did at 3.50? My door locks makes the rattling sounds as well. Thanks
He put the deadener behind it on the door, I can see how this could be confusing because of how swiftly he did it
So that butyl adhesive back is cool to have exposed on the inside of your door?
If that's the case it is going to make replacing the vapour barrier for my power window conversion a lot easier
Where did you get the tape from?
You’re the best man
Nice work! Could you provide the link where to purchase the Soundskins?
Where do you get that see through tape/film at?
great video, great information!
Im thinking of doing this to my camaro for my sound system. Lots of rattles and road noises but my car is fiberglass its ment to be light and fast. But i have no mid bass what so ever. So this is tempting. have you ever done a camaro with fiberglass doors?
You dropped the ball by not giving us a before and after door shutting!
Good stuff brother ....
What about access to the window regulator? Can the insulation you used to cover the big hole in the sheet metal be removed to allow access to the window parts and still have the same effect?
That's the exact thing I was wondering. I would really hate to make my car hard to service
For how many Rms subwoofer do you need to cover the floor and top of the cover if thats a need.
And do you need anything apart from single deadner sheet.. Flex sheet, foam etc..