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Your Fans have always enjoyed your camera placements AND it is not lost on us either the time and effort you spend in making sure Your REEL is The REAL DEAL! Appreciate your commentary as well in keeping us informed and updated on what's happening in and around your Farm! Thank you Eric for always giving us all the good and bad of daily life. A prime example was your decision to pass om picking up The Forms. Smart call! MOO From next door in COW-lumbus, Ohio
Putting roofs over your old bunker silos could be a great machine shed and shop, and furthermore could add some extra income if you rent out a part of the area. Great video!
It's very hard to do that because of hydraulic jerkyness at high rpm. What I do on our jcb 320 which is 2x the size is a put in neutral and foot on brake. Let the facer push you back as you go down
We have the same loader :) use the break pedal, rev with your throttle knob and then it lets you keep your rpm up and your pedal is not a creep pedal:) makes it super easy!
@@adamjacobs8715 Is there a better way than the method you suggested?My engine is old and the uneven fuel system also affects the smoothness of the engine
One tip I learned when driving a loader is if you’re driving high speeds hold the steering wheel like a car, that knob can get you in some trouble! Love the videos🙏🏼
The issue that the pins stick in the buckets is a common problem when they are new. In factory they put a little bit to much paint on it. We always grind the paint away when they go to the customer but not every dealer does that.
I like the 3500 Compact Wheel Loader, seems to me the best use for your operation is outside in the yard for what you did. We have a cow or two that has issues with calves from time to time, just a costly loss, but all you can do is either try to figure out what happened or cull the cow. Thanks for sharing, have a great evening!
Eric , good video and good to hear your thoughts on the machine, I watched a similar video recently by Jan at saskduch kid , I think he liked the extended boom for getting the sand into the centre of the beds but will stick with his skid loader . Great to hear two farmers views on similar machines. Take care and stay safe 👍
It looks like the riding comfort and the visibility around you is way better than with the skid only thing is the bigger turning radius very nice video al always
I plant the King Fisher corn, which is the conventional/untraited version of Red-tail corn. I'm very happy with the silage, great digestible fibers, with the soft floury type kernels.
I'm not sure what drive system that payloader has. If it has a torque converter your only option is to do it like you said. If it's hydrostatic then you should be able to creep slow enough.
Have you seen the Mecalac swing loaders? They allow you to pivot the bucket or forks without moving the wheels. Great for tight spaces. There's a dealership over in Carlisle, you should check out the AS600 or AS750.
So, i think the loader will be very helpful, and youll get use to the levers in time. ( like any new machine.) But i would go for a enclosed cab. Winter conditions and dust control for the operator. Good video! Too bad about the calf.
you should try to get one of those demos of a skid steer that the wheels actually steer which would probably be very good in your situation less tire wear
Watching the facer from the side I wonder if you tilted it down as you lowered the arms if that would keep it straight? Could you stand in the bucket fill a bucket with the auger while timing it then just run the auger for that length of time into the loader bucket then you wouldn't have to handle it by hand.
You'd need to retrain a new set of muscle memories to feel comfortable using a new machine type for familiar tasks you're accustomed to doing without thinking. Not much can be done about the lack of compactness in tight corners. She seems like an adolescent giraffe when you're used to your trained pit pony.
I don't know if you can but... Instead of backing up with that thing when shaving silage, how about trying to extend the boom then start shaving and feather the boom back as you go so you don't have to back up? Just spit balling here. Assuming you can telescope the boom.
I would recommend a jcb 403 as it’s pretty strong and powerful and can also go 30kph because I see that you go cart bales down the road with your skid steer
With all the roof surface area, you have the potential of collecting a lot of "free" rainwater, do you have a collection system to make use of your rainwater?
Some silo questions. Will you use a clean chute or chute funnel? How will the unloader be lowered as the feed is fed out? How will the robots turn on the unloader? In freezing temperatures how the robots keep the unloader from freezing down? How will you know when there are problems with the silo or unloader? How big of a tractor will be needed to fill the silo? What about silage wagon unload time compared to bunker unload time, added cost? Silos and unloaders can be touchy and require a watchful eye. I know A.I. is the software rage but can it handle these concepts? A discussion of these and other comments that come in might be a good topic for another presentation (when the unloader arrives/installed).
Yes Chute Design: Clean Chute: This is a simpler design with a straight path for material flow. It works well for dry, free-flowing materials. Chute Funnel: This has a wider opening at the top that tapers down, promoting better material flow and preventing bridging (material getting stuck). It's a good choice for moister materials like silage. Unloader Lowering: There are a couple of options: Cable Winch: A winch system lowers the unloader as the feed level drops. Hydraulic System: A hydraulic mechanism raises and lowers the unloader based on sensor data. Both methods require safety features like limit switches to prevent over-lowering. Robot Activation: This is where AI can be helpful. Robots could be programmed to: Monitor feed level sensors and activate the unloader when it reaches a pre-set threshold. Communicate with silo management systems for automated control. Preventing Freezing: Heating elements can be installed on the unloader to prevent ice buildup in freezing temperatures. Temperature sensors can trigger the heating elements automatically when needed. Insulation around the unloader can help retain heat. Problem Detection: Sensor data from the silo and unloader (motor currents, bin level indicators) can be analyzed by AI to identify potential issues like motor overload or uneven feed flow. Alerts can be sent to notify operators about potential problems. Tractor Size: This depends on the silo volume. You can calculate the silo volume (area of the base x height) and choose a tractor with a hopper capacity that allows for efficient filling in minimal trips. Silage Wagon vs. Bunker Unload: Factors to consider: Distance: If the bunker is far from the silo, a silage wagon might be faster. Time: Bunker unloads can be slower due to maneuvering the equipment. Fuel consumption: A longer unload time with the bunker might be offset by fewer trips with a larger wagon. Labor cost: Operating a wagon might require additional personnel compared to a stationary bunker unloader. AI and Human Collaboration: While AI can handle data analysis and automate tasks, silo management still benefits from human expertise, especially for: Final decisions based on experience and unforeseen circumstances. Safety oversight and ensuring proper functioning of automated systems. Overall: A watchful eye is crucial, but AI can be a valuable tool for silo management by automating tasks, providing real-time data analysis, and improving early detection of problems.
It's not the unloader that freezes, it's the SILAGE that freezes and causes problems with the unloader! Of coarse, everything causes problems with unloaders, especially when you are in a hurry or have to be somewhere ASAP.
keep a seat belt on when running that new artic. loader you have. they have a strange center of gravity. when you have a load about 4 feet off the ground they want to tip over. We had one for years in the papermill and we hated it. Because we had grab broke....the sheet of that breaks and falls under the papermachine....wet down and haul it out. One day it springs a hydraulic leak and starts burning. lol.... they waited a few minutes before calling security and putting it out. Solved that problem once and all. So...keep your heavy loads low.
the wheel loader seems like such a better idea for a farm. you could keep your skid steer still and even with it having higher hours you wouldnt be putting a ton on it anymore
Would it be possible to put the wheel loader in some sort of neutral driving position so that the loader is pushed pack when you drop the arm when using the defacer?
Looking back at the foundation video for the silo. it seemed like a lot at the time. but then realizing they stuck a 14 story structure on top of it makes me wonder why they didn't go deeper.
Once you start using the new silo, what are you going to do with the existing bunkers? (apart from storing houses). If your workshop is to become your new feeding equipment room, maybe you can convert one of the bunkers into a new workshop.
I wish that I would have had your style of parlor, I worked on the straight style and got kicked a lot. With the style you have it makes it harder for them to kick your arms.
Your new machine that you are trying out!! I used to operate one like that only much larger and would lift 60,000 lbs Overseas containers. Once you get used to it you will enjoy operating it every day. If at times you are carrying real heavy stuff just keep the load close to the ground.
Since the demo loader has extension ability Why not extend the silage defacer at the top of the the bunker face and then slowly move it back as you go down rather than backing the loader
You Should reach out to Nathan from the Border View farms to talk ot him about Golden Harvest Enogen Corn, he has some dairy's using it for corn silage
Calving is calving, regardless of the calf being alive. Barring complications like infection, the milk producing hormones will kick in as usual, and the cow will produce milk. Oxytocin is stimulated by the milking process, and milk is "let down" especially in 2+ lactation cows.
The Lely robots, now a Giant loader. Its nice to see Dutch equipment overthere.
Your Fans have always enjoyed your camera placements AND it is not lost on us either the time and effort you spend in making sure Your REEL is The REAL DEAL! Appreciate your commentary as well in keeping us informed and updated on what's happening in and around your Farm! Thank you Eric for always giving us all the good and bad of daily life. A prime example was your decision to pass om picking up The Forms. Smart call! MOO From next door in COW-lumbus, Ohio
Eric, you and dad keep your farm nice and tidy.
Putting roofs over your old bunker silos could be a great machine shed and shop, and furthermore could add some extra income if you rent out a part of the area. Great video!
Extend the boom. Shave down. As you shave down retract the boom instead of moving the machine
It's very hard to do that because of hydraulic jerkyness at high rpm. What I do on our jcb 320 which is 2x the size is a put in neutral and foot on brake. Let the facer push you back as you go down
I was going to say the exact same thing, the attachment would probably work better on the bobcat
We have the same loader :) use the break pedal, rev with your throttle knob and then it lets you keep your rpm up and your pedal is not a creep pedal:) makes it super easy!
@@adamjacobs8715 Is there a better way than the method you suggested?My engine is old and the uneven fuel system also affects the smoothness of the engine
@@far_outlook not that I know of. You can start from bottom and go half way up then from top down works too
That Giant loader looks great. You can really tell the lift capacity is much greater than a skid steer. Kubota powered, so good motor.
Safety harness would be good to wear when climbing the silos. Have a great day
One tip I learned when driving a loader is if you’re driving high speeds hold the steering wheel like a car, that knob can get you in some trouble! Love the videos🙏🏼
Eric - Any thoughts about maybe putting a roof over one of the bunks & using it for a new farm shop?
Eric: you do a nice job of explaining your feed mixtures. Simple yet concise.
The issue that the pins stick in the buckets is a common problem when they are new. In factory they put a little bit to much paint on it. We always grind the paint away when they go to the customer but not every dealer does that.
You are doing fine! Every day is a learning day.
Eric hope you and all of your family had a blessed and happy Easter.
I like the 3500 Compact Wheel Loader, seems to me the best use for your operation is outside in the yard for what you did. We have a cow or two that has issues with calves from time to time, just a costly loss, but all you can do is either try to figure out what happened or cull the cow. Thanks for sharing, have a great evening!
That loader looks cool
Love that loader!
Eric , good video and good to hear your thoughts on the machine, I watched a similar video recently by Jan at saskduch kid , I think he liked the extended boom for getting the sand into the centre of the beds but will stick with his skid loader . Great to hear two farmers views on similar machines. Take care and stay safe 👍
More time you spend in the machine the better you'll get as you know thanks for sharing
Looks like your getting better with the new machine. Another busy day.
Great video brother from the imperial county California 👍🇺🇲🚜🐐
awesome video Eric. Thank you so much
Your learning. Most ppl wldnt share this part. They'd just all of a sudden b professional. Ur real Eric and I love ya for it
Nice operation Eric!
It looks like the riding comfort and the visibility around you is way better than with the skid only thing is the bigger turning radius very nice video al always
Those were some hungry ladies...eating right off the feed wagon conveyor belt!
I plant the King Fisher corn, which is the conventional/untraited version of Red-tail corn. I'm very happy with the silage, great digestible fibers, with the soft floury type kernels.
Love your content. When defacing the silage, if you extend the boom, then retract instead of backing up, might be easier
Are you a professional silage defacer?
I'm not sure what drive system that payloader has. If it has a torque converter your only option is to do it like you said.
If it's hydrostatic then you should be able to creep slow enough.
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Another Great Video 👍 Great content, keep up the great work!
We use some of the Red Tail seed for corn silage. And have had very good luck with it.
Some tube and roofing cover over the bunkers, with some bed pack is a natural for store beef if you have the capacity for feed and litter.
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I think that there a definite use for that loader. But still going to need a skidsteer
Excellent video
Great video thanks for posting
Oh my shaking hands and knees Cousin Andrew!
Really clean editing for the end of the video, love watching you feed the cows.
Great informative video as always Eric! Keep up the good work to you and family 👊🏼
Have you seen the Mecalac swing loaders? They allow you to pivot the bucket or forks without moving the wheels. Great for tight spaces. There's a dealership over in Carlisle, you should check out the AS600 or AS750.
You guys should give a avant 860 a try they have great lift capacities, very compact, super reliable, and the hydraulic strength is insane
love the video! it would be awesome to come out and do some photography here! keep up the good work!
So, i think the loader will be very helpful, and youll get use to the levers in time. ( like any new machine.)
But i would go for a enclosed cab. Winter conditions and dust control for the operator.
Good video! Too bad about the calf.
you should try to get one of those demos of a skid steer that the wheels actually steer which would probably be very good in your situation less tire wear
Thanks for another interesting video. You made a wise choice in not moving the forms. You also seem to be getting more used to the new loader.
Sorry to hear about the calf.
I've heard housing is tight in Lancaster Co. so your idea of parking a trailer in the unused bunk, and maybe renting it out might work out for you.
I thought the same, here in germany many farmers rent out unused space
Like the loader.
Watching the facer from the side I wonder if you tilted it down as you lowered the arms if that would keep it straight? Could you stand in the bucket fill a bucket with the auger while timing it then just run the auger for that length of time into the loader bucket then you wouldn't have to handle it by hand.
Great machine!
You'd need to retrain a new set of muscle memories to feel comfortable using a new machine type for familiar tasks you're accustomed to doing without thinking. Not much can be done about the lack of compactness in tight corners. She seems like an adolescent giraffe when you're used to your trained pit pony.
Practice with the extend a boom for shaving the silage, bet you'll like it a lot when you figure that part out!!
Did you find our what happened to calf? Everything looking good. Thanks Eric
Pretty hard to out do a skid loader
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your operation is set for skid steer turns.
a shorter farm version might work
That thing looks handy
I don't know if you can but... Instead of backing up with that thing when shaving silage, how about trying to extend the boom then start shaving and feather the boom back as you go so you don't have to back up? Just spit balling here. Assuming you can telescope the boom.
I would recommend a jcb 403 as it’s pretty strong and powerful and can also go 30kph because I see that you go cart bales down the road with your skid steer
With all the roof surface area, you have the potential of collecting a lot of "free" rainwater, do you have a collection system to make use of your rainwater?
Love your videos
You can use the left pedal as a clutch te creep backwards
Some silo questions. Will you use a clean chute or chute funnel? How will the unloader be lowered as the feed is fed out? How will the robots turn on the unloader? In freezing temperatures how the robots keep the unloader from freezing down? How will you know when there are problems with the silo or unloader? How big of a tractor will be needed to fill the silo? What about silage wagon unload time compared to bunker unload time, added cost?
Silos and unloaders can be touchy and require a watchful eye. I know A.I. is the software rage but can it handle these concepts? A discussion of these and other comments that come in might be a good topic for another presentation (when the unloader arrives/installed).
Yes
Chute Design:
Clean Chute: This is a simpler design with a straight path for material flow. It works well for dry, free-flowing materials.
Chute Funnel: This has a wider opening at the top that tapers down, promoting better material flow and preventing bridging (material getting stuck). It's a good choice for moister materials like silage.
Unloader Lowering:
There are a couple of options:
Cable Winch: A winch system lowers the unloader as the feed level drops.
Hydraulic System: A hydraulic mechanism raises and lowers the unloader based on sensor data.
Both methods require safety features like limit switches to prevent over-lowering.
Robot Activation:
This is where AI can be helpful. Robots could be programmed to:
Monitor feed level sensors and activate the unloader when it reaches a pre-set threshold.
Communicate with silo management systems for automated control.
Preventing Freezing:
Heating elements can be installed on the unloader to prevent ice buildup in freezing temperatures.
Temperature sensors can trigger the heating elements automatically when needed.
Insulation around the unloader can help retain heat.
Problem Detection:
Sensor data from the silo and unloader (motor currents, bin level indicators) can be analyzed by AI to identify potential issues like motor overload or uneven feed flow.
Alerts can be sent to notify operators about potential problems.
Tractor Size:
This depends on the silo volume. You can calculate the silo volume (area of the base x height) and choose a tractor with a hopper capacity that allows for efficient filling in minimal trips.
Silage Wagon vs. Bunker Unload:
Factors to consider:
Distance: If the bunker is far from the silo, a silage wagon might be faster.
Time: Bunker unloads can be slower due to maneuvering the equipment.
Fuel consumption: A longer unload time with the bunker might be offset by fewer trips with a larger wagon.
Labor cost: Operating a wagon might require additional personnel compared to a stationary bunker unloader.
AI and Human Collaboration:
While AI can handle data analysis and automate tasks, silo management still benefits from human expertise, especially for:
Final decisions based on experience and unforeseen circumstances.
Safety oversight and ensuring proper functioning of automated systems.
Overall:
A watchful eye is crucial, but AI can be a valuable tool for silo management by automating tasks, providing real-time data analysis, and improving early detection of problems.
It's not the unloader that freezes, it's the SILAGE that freezes and causes problems with the unloader! Of coarse, everything causes problems with unloaders, especially when you are in a hurry or have to be somewhere ASAP.
Nice small endloader
3:04 nice to have the engine rpm low when your driving slowly in tight area. Skid steer is almost always WOT
Would you be able to extend the boom and when ur lowering it slowly bring the boom in the not needing to back up?
when shaving the feed.. will the neck of the loader wind in more slowly instead of reversing the entire tractor?
You guys gonna buy one this time
keep a seat belt on when running that new artic. loader you have. they have a strange center of gravity. when you have a load about 4 feet off the ground they want to tip over. We had one for years in the papermill and we hated it. Because we had grab broke....the sheet of that breaks and falls under the papermachine....wet down and haul it out. One day it springs a hydraulic leak and starts burning. lol.... they waited a few minutes before calling security and putting it out. Solved that problem once and all. So...keep your heavy loads low.
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Great video. Very informative. You do a great job of explaining items.
another great video
the wheel loader seems like such a better idea for a farm. you could keep your skid steer still and even with it having higher hours you wouldnt be putting a ton on it anymore
Would it be possible to put the wheel loader in some sort of neutral driving position so that the loader is pushed pack when you drop the arm when using the defacer?
Looking back at the foundation video for the silo. it seemed like a lot at the time. but then realizing they stuck a 14 story structure on top of it makes me wonder why they didn't go deeper.
What do you do with a dead calf? Or even a dead cow? Do you guys bury it somewhere or is there a place you take something like that?
I forgot if you said the new silos would do away with the bunkers. I know they are to help automate the feeling better.
How much horsepower will it take to blow silage to the top of your new silo? Is there a risk of plugging the silo pipe quit often?
Once you start using the new silo, what are you going to do with the existing bunkers? (apart from storing houses).
If your workshop is to become your new feeding equipment room, maybe you can convert one of the bunkers into a new workshop.
Equipment and manure storage.
I wonder how well the grapple bucket would do with leaving a silage face? If it would stay nice and clean or not?
A JCB skid steer has a side door that you can get out of the cab when the bucket is in the air.
You have a very nice video
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I wish that I would have had your style of parlor, I worked on the straight style and got kicked a lot. With the style you have it makes it harder for them to kick your arms.
You folks ever use cottonseed meal or whole cottonseed?
Just a thought. Maybe some 4” corrugated perf pipe, geo and 2b stone along that pad where no gutter to run the water out past that silo?
How are the dry cows liking the new water beds?
Eric did you see the foot wrap on your drycow?
Skid steer maneuvers around much better.
It is hard to beat a skid steer for many jobs, I'm not sold that machine can replace it .There is probably a place for both.
Your new machine that you are trying out!! I used to operate one like that only much larger and would lift 60,000 lbs Overseas containers.
Once you get used to it you will enjoy operating it every day. If at times you are carrying real heavy stuff just keep the load close to the ground.
Why no bucket under skimmer for food...seen some before and save time from changing tractors
I’m guessing there are no platforms in the feed shoot?
Since the demo loader has extension ability
Why not extend the silage defacer at the top of the the bunker face and then slowly move it back as you go down rather than backing the loader
What are your plans for your bunkers once you start using the new silos ?
Repurpose them for equipment and manure storage.
These guys really want to sell you /loaders/telehandlers. I think you solved the problem ages ago.
Merhaba eric, buzağılara verdiğin karışımın içeriğinden biraz bahseder misin ? Türkiye den selamlar.
Pulling a calf. Been there done that.
You Should reach out to Nathan from the Border View farms to talk ot him about Golden Harvest Enogen Corn, he has some dairy's using it for corn silage
Do cows who have stillborn calves, keep producing enough milk to keep getting milked? Or are they done after having a stillborn?
Calving is calving, regardless of the calf being alive. Barring complications like infection, the milk producing hormones will kick in as usual, and the cow will produce milk. Oxytocin is stimulated by the milking process, and milk is "let down" especially in 2+ lactation cows.
Perhaps extend the boom some and as you lower you can retract the boom at the same time.... 🙂@10:04
Just a heads up, don't need to Teflon tape the threads on hydraulic hoses.