Honda Element Clutch Diagnosis and Replacement
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- My brothers 2005 Honda Element was having a strange issue with the clutch. Even with the pedal depressed, it seemed like the clutch was still engaged making it difficult to shift gears.
In this video I diagnose the problem and replace the clutch. For additional information on this job, see the engine replacement videos linked below.
Thanks for watching!
#ETCGVideo #Clutch #Transmission
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The first ETCG video I ever watched was on a Ford Focus clutch replacement. Five years on, and I still enjoy a proper nuts & bolts ETCG clutch replacement video - clearly, he hasn't lost his touch. Still the best on UA-cam.
As the kids would say, "it's clutch". Always great to see you.
Dang that’s a lot of work because someone took some shortcuts…..that’s why I do all my repairs on my cars, it’s hard to find a good mechanic you can trust. There are only a few Eric’s out there. 😊
Nothing like the satisfaction of doing things yourself and well done
@@leonardoalfaro6007 This looks like a brutal job if you're up on jackstands working in the floor though. Eeesh.
i subscribe to the tavarish school of thought on this; i am my own warranty.
... i tend to avoid the whole buying crashed supercars part though. we'll ignore the fact that i've rebuilt two of my last daily drivers pretty much from the ground up. that's clearrrrly not relevant to tavarish.
@@kenabi Never heard of him till now. The channel looks real click baity though. Is it any good?
@@PJBonoVox mixed. some its pretty cool just from a 'neato' perspective, but he does like, 95-98% of all the work to the vehicles in house between him and jared pink.
and then yeah, some of its just flat clickbaity. and even some of that's entertaining.
You're very good to your brother!
You are your brothers keeper
You saving the old clutch from your car to fix your brother's is a real clutch move.
That breaker bar bend was real! damn
I changed 4 clutches on my 1980 Honda Accord I had. I put a Japanese used engine in it and it didn't have a place for the pilot bearing in the back of the crank. The springs would fall out and would stay in gear. Cost me a red light ticket once. In 81 they incorporated the pilot bearing into the transmission. I wasn't smart enough back then to go get an 81 standard transmission and fix it right.
Eric needs a Grammy for his soundtrack choices. 😂
No but seriously, I like that you don’t play hype music. It’s unique. Keep it up :)
Gotta love Exedy clutches. They just work. I only install Exedy in my and my friends' and family's Hondas. Good job Eric!
The flex on that breaker bar is insane flexzilla 😱🤣🤣 @9:08 @EricTheCarGuy
spring steel
Right? It's making me cringe. I know all these sensations, bolts about to snap, bad threads. Lol
Bad clutch, good guy.
Ezzaaaa is a living legend.
Fantastic musical choice, Eric!
When someone says we don't have that clutch in stock but I got one that should work 🤣
Eric, you sounded so happy at the end of this video! Awesome work that you do!
I was very happy I didn't have to take the transmission back out.
@@ericthecarguy Once a decade is plenty!
like having the old Eric back
In todays “Element” of surprise, Eric removes a buncha pieces of plastic . . .
Sounds like the disc went potty. Saw your tutorial on replacement of the clutch master/slave cylinder on this car.
Great content here!
It wasn't a disc problem, it was a release problem. The disc was working just fine. I believe the incorrect clutch was installed. Thanks for the comment.
@@ericthecarguy i hope you do a short video explaining this.
@@emptytomb4967 yes please Eric!
The "new" throwout bearing looks taller to me but it could be the angle of the camera. Crazy issue and glad you got it resolved! I learn alot from your videos!
Ha! Wrong clutch! #ProblemSolved! Great video, Eric! Your brother is lucky to have you.
I'm lucky to have him too.
I have learned from watching eric and south main auto is to always use oem parts because aftermarket parts is not as good as the oem parts.
Sometimes finding out who made the original parts is hard as they've been replaced before you get there.
Generally true, unless you can find the OE manufacturer. ua-cam.com/video/wC2MZNY1Ie8/v-deo.html
Luke makes all the clutches for most European cars. Great brand.
@@frankburn6312 LuK makes the friction disc for my Sachs clutch kit.
The last time I bent a breaker bar that far was on an axle nut I had installed previously on my daughter's Accord. It eventually broke at the head end.
Great video. Quoting MCM the wrong g clutch goes "in the bin!"
Thanks Eric for the new videos.
I liked that time-lapse music!
Eric, we need mechanic like you everywhere. It would be great if you create a Network of reliable mechanics that you can send us to for repairs. You can make commission either from customer or from your exclusive network of mechanics or perhaps both.
You need to think about retirement some day. So, start the network now and in a few short years you get there. You have fans everywhere that can help you out to expend the network.
Thanks for this so much! Amazing to see the diagnostic shift from the hydraulics to the clutch. Seems like it all was needed. My only comment is (with great appreciation for your work) that...~~ Whenever I'm under my vehicles with "whatever" and have exposed areas of RUST ~~~. I'm there with the RUST-OLEUM !!! Every time. I know that control of body rust is not the topic but for my vehicles ~~ all over 20 years old ~~ here in New England, it is a never ending battle. Just a one bay workspace. (Just saying.) Thanks so much for this !!!
Everytime I have had bolt like that subframe one, I end up with a bolt head in the wrench and the rest still in the car, that horrible feeling of a bolt shearing off as you add pressure.
nightmare fuel
My fears exactly. All four of these bolts on my '05 E needed over 180 ft lbs to remove and the first 6 full turns were each a series of cracks! Turns out that some moisture gets into the top four threads inside the chassis and rusts up.
I hate that. One second it feels like it's coming out the next it's broken trash that takes up a whole lot of time.
A lot of work! Hope your brother appreciates you.👍🏻
You're a great brother, Eric!
crazy how you remember where every piece goes
Good update Eric @EricTheCarGuy
Thanks!
Eric you ARE Amazing glad you got it fixed. That is a lot of work for one person and you stayed the course. You and I are close to the same age and I was exhausted for you. There's NOOOOO way I would Home garage try to repair my 02 Accord LX with a Five speed manual. At our age I'm about paying a qualified Honda Specialist.
When I was in my 30's and fresh out of the Army I did that kind of car work in my home garage and I was ok. But now Nooooo sir. Great vid Eric. Great Vid.
Recording a clutch job is a huge PITA. Pure coincidence, I literally just recorded removing a 2000 Maxima clutch, last night.
I (tried) to remove as little as possible, on the ground, in a driveway, passenger side up against a tree ..........ugh.
Much more fun to watch someone else doing it!
How long did it take you
the league of shadetree mechanics.
@@supersabrosinho 2 days. First day was removal and OCD cleanup. Day two was reinstalling, torquing, refilling, and reassembly of intake and all the plastics, and the battery. Can be done in one day, but it's not worth rushing. Also, it's almost impossible to record and get all of the camera angles in such a short time... (and then there's the editing time...)
Man it's a pisser when you get it apart and the problem isn't obvious. Glad it worked out!
Good video! I’m waiting on the Fix it Forward PCM and CAN data cable fix. Those are a PITA and an caused me to get rid of my old car rather than dealing with it. It will be good to learn the etcg fix incase it happens again to another car of mine in the future!!!
Yea, that's on the list. What I've done so far hasn't fixed it which is why I haven't posted a video about it yet. Hopefully I'll get it sorted in the next week or so.
@@ericthecarguy Good luck with the fix! Thanks for all that you do to help everyone!!!
Hey Bro. Your on your way to your 2m mark! Your one of the best out there Eric. Ive been a fan almost from the start. I remember your 500 subscriber video! I am so sorry i didnt renew my prmeum membership on time awhile back. I was late and the price went up. Still love you man! God Bless
Indeed I am, thank you for your part in that. No worries on the PM. Life happens. Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Eric is the clutch master of Hondas😉
If it was my brother that needed an Element clutch, I would at least expect him to hang out and hand me tools while I fixed his car. Eric is a nice guy.
Man I wished I would have bought an orange one of these back in the day... Wife hates them but I thought they were a different kind of cool!
I always wanted one in orange, but I'm loving my Cargo Khaki one.
Wow, so That's how you got 1.7m subscribers? Bravo!...
Nice 1 Eric!
It must indeed take a special type to install the WRONG clutch!
Thanks for another great video, ETCG!
The advantage of having more than 1 of the same car in the family.
You can save a part and cover off more than 1 car.
Glad your brother also drives a Honda! My one does too.
I too am the family mechanic.
My family rate is I charge him the parts, even if like this it covers parts that May not have been needed but needed to pin point the issue.
Jist wanted to update this. I just bought a Element with a recently installed Luk clutch with the EXACT same problems. Replaced with an Exedy brand clutch and it's all good again. Again, same visual differences as this. It seems like the Luk is not correct from the factory. The Luk brand is normally a good aftermarket clutch brand but doesn't seem to be right for this application.
Thanks you, Eric!
When you don’t take your gloves off & go in the car or drive it, 😬. Another great video. 👍
Brothers love man a brothers love .
I have watched and I have learned. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
This was a great video. All that work just to un-do someone’s screw up.
Thank you Eric love watching your wonderful videos I am from South Africa and very entertaining
Thanks for watching!
Yikes Eric. That’s a fairly big job. Hope that thing runs for 200K with no clutch slip after that battle.
I bet the guy that put that old clutch in never compared the parts he was installing ! And so the parts house sold him the wrong clutch . It worked for a while till it stopped releasing .. Great Job Eric !! ENJOYED, Happy Brother to ..
It is always very very nice when you fix something and it is fixed like you did what you thought was going to fix it and it worked and it wasn't something else or something else or something else or something else OMG
This is why you always use the same manufactorer's clutch as the factory one was. It was designed to work with that, and even small differences can make it not work. Especially tru with the dual mass flywheels. If you install a different manufactorer's one, you can even break the transmission.
Good job Eric. Respect for the job.
"Removing the ground here...... that I just installed" ---- lol.
oohh the salt of doing things the second time. I hate it too.
OEM, if you can do it, is always the best way to go. Too bad it’s always so stinking expensive. Well done Eric!
Or you find the OE manufacturer. I believe Exedy makes the clutches for Honda.
You turning back to the old Eric
Gearwrench toolbox review🙌🏾🙌🏾
The timelapse music was a joy to listen too :-)
Good move to save the 'old' clutch from your element, i also always save parts that are good enough to reuse at some point.
And i'm glad my new LUK clutch works as it should.
I actually think this clutch was the wrong part for this application. I don't think it was an issue with the clutch itself.
Thank you for the awesome tutorial Eric.👍
What a tough job, lots of work.
I didn't feel it was too bad, but I have a lift and a transmission jack. Those help a great deal. Thanks for the comment.
Having the exact same symptoms replaced master and slave.bled the system and wheels won't stop spinning when the clutch is pressed in in gear
That was not what I expected!
Nice find on it being the clutch just not the springs in the friction disc interesting 🤔🤔 @EricTheCarGuy
I think it was the wrong clutch from the start, or the pressure plate was bad. The only thing I changed was the clutch, pressure plate, and throwout bearing. Now it works. 🤷♂️
@@ericthecarguy yeah very interesting problem wrong clutch makes sense each clutch works under different Pressure and spring tension
Just awesome!! I don't know how you do it Eric... So many pieces/parts removed including bolts, brackets and connections. How do you remember where everything goes and in what order????
Like I did in this video, I often leave the fasteners in the same location as removal to help keep track. It cuts down on what I need to remember.
I'm always impressed with complex mechanical work that doesn't include profound cursing and throwing of shit. Perhaps that is edited out?
Great work!
How long did that wrong clutch work? Just really weird to me that it worked at all.
It never really shifted well if I'm honest. My brother complained about it from day one. I was reluctant to pull the transmission. A lot of good that did me.
nice job fine result ,satisfies
Good video, probably same issue as mjne.
holy shit the amount of bending on that breaker bar when you were doing that subframe bolt.. scary
Time to get a hockey stick my man!
I'm enjoying it... TQ teacher.
9:13 Eric the tool bender
Smashing repair, it's back to honda spec now :-D
Maybe the friction disk materal was thicker than normal, that could change the finger leveridge angle and require the bearing to push firther than normal.
Actually, I think the wrong clutch was installed from the beginning. If there was an issue, I'd say it was the pressure plate and not the clutch because it simply wasn't releasing. I hope you have a great weekend.
Dat breaker flex lol 9:16
That’s awesome Eric unfortunately I am battling a different gremlin in my CRV which is a four-wheel-drive and a five speed auto tragic what happens is when I slow down to turn the corner sometimes when I go back on the gas it slips a bit it appears that when the transmission is hot turned off in park it is sitting just below the top of the crosshatches... I really hope that there’s nothing wrong with the transmission but nonetheless it is what it is by the way it has new fluids and a new filter
www.ericthecarguy.com/solving-transmission-problems/
Your brother needs a full case of rustoleum on that frame and sub frame. Wow 2 foot breaker bar and a two foot cheater. Solid.
Eric you should do a full transmission video of a Honda Element disassembly and assembly with new parts
This is linked in the description. The only difference is the PTO on the back of the trans on the Element AWD applications. ua-cam.com/video/yRRZUgoSzf4/v-deo.html
Great video thank you
I always have to fix the stuff ppl said that's new or replaced
Very cool.
Amazing job!
Thanks Eric!
It would be nice to have a new subframe from the junkyard that wasn't Rusty other than that well lot of work good job Eric
As long as there aren't any holes, it's fine. They aren't that difficult to replace if need be. Thanks for the comment.
"The wheels don't move!" *happy dance*
Great job. However, after seeing the underside of your car….. Soooooooooooo glad I live in Texas. All my cars have ZERO rust, including my 1994 Integra GSR. God bless Texas.
Hi, did you check the pressure plate for normal operation? If the pressure plate fingers are worn, you will see this symptom? Idiots holding the clutch in at the lights etc. wear out the strength in the fingers.
Nice video , Ty
Yup,wrong clutch,good job,got to watch that on the Honda's.
My guess the wrong clutch would be causing to much hydraulic pressure on the master causing the triangular diaphragm to exert so much force is blew the 2 fasteners off it from the previous video. It's a common thing on rsx and certain gen civic si, they have the same looking clutch master, when switching to aftermarket heavier duty clutches
I wonder what that clutch was actually for? Is there any part numbers visible that could help you track down what vehicle it is actually supposed to be installed on? Great video by the way.....tough one.
Not sure really. I suppose it could have also been a pressure plate failure, but either way, the replacement clutch fixed it. Thanks for the comment.
I have a 2006 element that the clutch engages fine car stop's when clutch is in ,but sometimes but not all the time has trouble getting in first second gear, if you try to engage first it goes in third an can't get it in second gear. But then it'll work just fine got any ideas on what might be wrong with it thanks for any advice love your you tube videos been big help in the past
Interesting. I wouldn't have guessed something about the thickness or whatever could be that close to cause this issue. I still think the clutch on my Accord V6 has to come out since replacing the hydraulics didn't fix this similar issue for me.
Make sure it's adjusted properly. Video in the description.
So is it an after market issue? I’ve had a lot of bad luck with Honda, Toyota and Nissan after market parts.
Aisin clutches have worked for me.
I don't think so, I think it was the wrong part for the application, or the pressure plate failed.
Were you able to get the numbers off the old clutch? I wonder what it was meant for…
I didn't bother. I took the win and moved on.
Thanks for the video. Did you spray the undercarriage and other parts with rust oleum or POR while you had it in the air?
Yes, I used Krown.
Great job
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