US Army Combat Vet REACTS to the Fallout World Lore! (REUPLOAD)
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You’re missing a key factor about the environment being radiated.while what you said is true that nukes don’t irradiate that much, you have to keep in mind that practically everything pre-war in this universe was using nuclear power, even cars. In almost every fallout game I’ve played you can find at least 1 nuclear power plant on the map. It’s not that the bombs caused all the radiation, it’s that the bombs destroyed all our power plants and nuclear technology, which irradiated the whole country.
Add to that that most of the bombs were probably Dirty bombs, ment to spread as much nuclear material and radiation as possible, and not tactical nuclear weapons like we use in our real world.
Also fallout 1 and 2 heavily imply china nuked the US because they found out about fev and it’s potential to wipe out everyone it’s tailored to. So when china nuked the US, the sites producing it were among those directly hit, such as the headquarters of the company producing it. The result was the bombs blasted fev everywhere causing mutations to happen quickly instead of gradually
Also, the areas which are not dead, are either isolated, rural environments or used alternate sources of power, in the Mojave the main source of power was hydro, even though some bombs got through the defence systems, they didn't leave huge lasting damage, almost all irradiated areas in FNV are landfills of nuclear waste.
The oceans are likely irradiated due to where nuclear power plants are situated, next to huge bodies of water, close to urban or military centres, acceptable targets even on their own merit.
It begs the question, how are areas which likely had less nuclear waste or powerplants faring, did the African or Australian continets see nuclear war, are they currently thriving without external competition and interventionalism?
My favourite fan theory is that the rest of the world just quarantined America post-war and is mostly back to modern levels of civilisation.
With nearly everything running on nuclear, it's not hard to see why the environment being irradiated happened at all.
Three Mile Island. Chernobyl. These incidents didn't take much in the way of mechanical, electrical, and personnel failure to cause serious damage, and in some cases severe injury and loss of life.
What do you think is going to happen when nukes go off, and cause most of the population to die of direct explosion exposure, famine from lack of surviving food stocks, unsafe drinking water caused by failure and destruction of purification plants, and competition between survivors for what little resources remain?
Nobody who's average and concerned for their continued existence will have the time or resources to stabilize nuclear powered assets, cars or plants or otherwise, to ensure the environment does not become contaminated. There wouldn't be enough survivors with the know how or resources to begin the *monumental* cleanup that would have likely lasted until their great grandchildren had children of their own, if even then.
In Fallout we get bombed back to the bronze age, and while we can get back on our feet and push past some of the ages in short order, it took close to 200 years just to be back on the level to manufacture robots of equal or inferior level to pre war manufacturing standard, and that capacity is not even uniform across the states.
@@radfoxuk8113 and places like repconn, test site, vaults and poseidon energy gas pumps
Something important to note is that neither China nor the US were stable at the time of the Alaska invasion: the US was suffering from a plague and civil strife, while China annexed region after region, building an Empire of hostile subjects who rebelled as soon as the US power armor attacked the occupying forces.
Neither side ever had the logistical ability to win under such conditions, and the large scale preparation for the US to be nuked implies the US knew that, and the Chinese large-scale spying on the same means they should have known that too, which begs the question of what was really going on during the war...
There are running theories that the Zetans chose that moment to spark the war. Where as another is Vault tech orchestrated it, as niether China or the US really wanted to do it.
Basically spite and a generations-long echo-chamber of 1950s racism in the upper echelons of both governments. The Enclave was basically a fascist junta with Democracy-themed verbiage in their propaganda, and it was ultimately in charge of the US government and military-industrial complex. And at some point after inventing the GECK, they basically figured that because they can't win conventionally, the best course of action is the wipe the slate clean (not only of distant communist foreigners, but also of various pinkos, hippies and other communist sympathisers in the US) in a nuclear exchange and expect to have the upper hand over any surviving Chinese Communists in rebuilding thanks to the GECK technology and a genetically pure population being sheltered from the resulting radiation by the Vault-Tec Vaults and their own secure bunkers.
In the Mothership Zeta DLC, its somewhat implied that a UFO that had been around since at least the Samurai era, was the one to fire the first shot and spark the nuclear exchange. Presumably, humanity was becoming too advanced and too dangerous.
Partially I think it's not hard to imagine based on current events for a strong military power to make stupid military decisions for their own reasons...
@@ididthisonpulpous6526 careful, people here dont want to hear this, they want to critique a fictional story, even when our own real world is starting to mimick the most stupid decisions made in such fictional story...
Ceasar's "basic understanding of military strategy" was more like how to discipline troops, the importance of logistical supply lines, and the value of shock troops and terror tactics. the timeless things that you adapt to the modern conflict, but are always there in one form or another.
Also just being a charismatic leader in his case. There are a lot of examples of guys that are just brave and are strong speakers having fanatical followers. Something that can't be overstated.
Also spies destroying the enemy from the inside.
@@fjparasite1172 I mean, why fight the enemy, when you can make the enemy fight the enemy?
And then a dude with charisma 1 and Speech 100 came and told the most fearsome butcher in the region to go away, and he did.
@@Mr.Heller no no no no. See 1 Lanius is afraid to fail like the Burned man did. 2 he knows that the legion's flaw is bodies. No bodies no legion. 3 he does not know how big california is. For all he knows it's a gigantic desert with nothing of value to risk all those bodies.
Its not necessarily about the radiation from the bombs, as mentioned the only thing that would really cause long term deadly levels of radiation would be actual nuclear material. In the Fallout universe the American society was using nuclear power and material for a lot of day to day things (there is board game with radioactive material) nuclear power was the best alternative after the extensive resource shortages. So all the bombs scatter this material and things get real Chernobyl like, even worse seeing as there's no government to try and contain mass nuclear meltdowns. Now this doesn't exactly excuse everything, but definitely makes the idea more entertainable.
plus corruption had reached titanic levels as america leaders became deseprate to win the war they were dumping waste everywhere even public lakes without a care imagine blasting all that buried waste with hundreds of atom bombs.
Don't forget about the most popular car in the US before the bombs fell was s nuclear power family car. That after the war, all the wrecks of the car will explode in a mini nuclear explosion, complete with fallout.
@@Phony81 If you want to see the real life concept car that probably inspired the ones in Fallout, look up the Ford Nucleon from 1957.
Nuka Cola had radioactive material in it as well.
@@kenyenjones yep with Quantum being the worst as it contained a form of STRONTIUM.
You're forgetting about the salted nuke idea, lacing nuclear weapons with materials that leave behind isotopes that can take possibly centuries to fully decay.
Dirty bombs are what they are called now though it is a catch all term.
@@brutaldecoder4169 a dirty bomb in common parlance just refers a conventional explosive laced with radioactive materials
@@johnathanblackwell9960 thank you
also Hiroshima and Nagasaki were 80 years ago and it was one bomb per city, and it was the original atom bombs they dropped. Those bombs are like water balloons compared to the firepower of modern society
So a minor cobalt bomb like bomb.
the "fallout" in fallout doesn't stem from those bombs that fell themselves, but from the destroyed decentral fission based power economy around the world, every item and its brother had a micro nuclear fission reactor. that dream of a nuclear based power economy is typical 50s and 60s, which is why fallout needs that as its historic starting point
The "Glowing Sea" in Fallout 4 is a perfect example. That area was the epicenter of a nuke strike and also had a large Nuclear powerplant as well as military facilities storing nuclear weapons.
That and Fallout operates on 1950s sci-fi logic.
Petrochemicals would have suffered from a resource war. From growing food to the plastics a lot of our devices are constructed from.
@@brodriguez11000 not sure what you mean. yes, petrochemicals suffered, they ran out in fallout. but you don't need petrochemicals to make fertilizers or plastics
problem is that it is described in the lore that they have developed the cold fusion reactor by the time of the great war. Fusion reactors don't spread radiation when they are destroyed, their reaction just stops.
A beter explanation would be that the bombs were intentionally designed t spread loads of highly radioactive isotropes to ruin the emeny's land and render it uninhabitable.
On the damages that nuclear weapons would cause, it's important to note the sheer number of nukes that China used during the Great War. Hiroshima and Nagasaki got one nuke of relatively small yield each. Thus the fallout was small and radiation only took a few months to reach healthy levels. In the Great War, China launched hundreds of extremely unstable, high yield nukes to every major and minor city in America. New York alone took about 5 nukes and not all of the bombs were Uranium, some were made using Plutonium so they would fizzle out before detonating and absolutely coat the surrounding areas in lethal amounts of radiation. If one or two bombs were to be dropped on America, it would be horrific, if hundreds were dropped? Yeah I think it's safe to say you'd have to wait a few years before it would be safe to take a breath of air out there.
Didn't house mentioned that only Vegas (Which wasn't as big as it is in out world) got 90 nukes launched against it? To launch nearly a hundred nukes on tiny little Vegas and launch only 5 to the Metropolitan New York seems unlikely...
Yes I agree, in the real world we use modern tactical nuclear weapons which are designed to be precise and fission most of it's material, where as in Fallout without our modern technology and design philosophy most of their Nuclear ordnance are probably Dirty Bombs design to make an area unusable to the enemy by spreading as much nuclear material and radiation as possible.
Austin from Shoddycast did the science on this one. Really cool video.
Small nitpick but a bombs yield doesnt really mean a whole lot as far as its radioactive impact. We have ballistic bombs with higher yield than the nuclear bombs used in WW2.
few years yes fallout 1 took 100 and fallout 3 took 200
"The early confederation was almost like the EU today, every state had an incentive to kick out the British"
brexit
Yes and the most incentive had the british themselves.
@@bracinggreen3785 In typical british fashion, they were always their worse enemies.
@diablo.the.cheater as a British person I can definitely agree we despise ourselves and other British people... also amazing name
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Extra Info : Edward Sallow was once a member of The Followers of The Apocalypse. A Faction dedicated to tending to anyone and everyone indiscriminately that needed help. He wandered to the far reached of The Mojave before encountering some tribals. He was captured but spoke his way out of the situation. Impressed the native people with knowledge he gained from Pre-War Era Books. Medical knowledge, crafting expertise, military know-how. He then declared himself Emperor i.e "Caesar", he based his empire on The Old Roman Empire, because it was the longest standing civilization that he read from old Pre-War Era Books. He's ruthless but cunning, a combination between The Brains of Athens and The Brutality of Sparta.
Render unto Caesar... that pathetic larper...
Didn't he have an Intelligence of 4 in the game's data, less than a literal Molerat named Snuffles?
@@vivi7645 he also has a brain tumour
sad you gave up in your miming career 😞
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I HIGHLY recommend The storyteller: FALLOUT playlist. it goes into fallout lore while staying 10 to 12 minutes each video. also its entertaining.
and while at it: The science behind Fallout
There is one Fallout video I'd think you'd really enjoy. It's about a man who survived the nukes going off and made a home in Zion Canyon, Utah. It is a personal diary about survival, perseverance, and his encounters of other survivors throughout his life. It's one where I think you would also have a lot of input on.
Ah, the survivalist
@@NurseAmamiya Randall Clark is a badass leading the survivors
The argument against their being long term radiation is extremely ill informed. Neutron Bombs produce massive amounts of long lasting radiation, ground detonated fusion bombs additionally launch large amounts of irradiated material, Bikini Atoll just became habitable again around 8 years ago due to the use of Lithium-6 deuteride in the Castle Bravo testing it was left uninhabitable for 40 years approximately mainly due to the water and animals still being highly irradiated. Also about the Chinese avenue of invasion into Alaska didnt it say early in the video that they took over Russia? Therefor allowing access to the Bering Strait for invasion?
Did you really mean to say Neutron Bombs? It's a fairly big part of the concept that they weren't long lasting. (And I don't believe that they were ever tested at Bikini Atoll)
Did you mean to write Nuclear?
40 years is not a long time mate
China didn’t take over the Soviets, they *overtook* the Soviets as in China exceeded them and took their place as the second world power.
@@RikudoBraedon the amount of bombs doesnt change what theyre made of lol
It's like the one time I talked about in your stream, Fallout nukes have a massive amount of variation: from simple giggaton explosives that act like nukes, nukes that only have enough yield to act like hand grenades, nukes that made the tsar Bomba look like a slakers underachieving work, to dirty nukes who's solo purpose was to just dump as much radiation and chemicals to literally terraform a place into Nurgles Garden v1.2 "The air is literally causing my skin to bubble off" electric Boogaloo. Though I will say the Fallout lore is kinda different depending on what era your going off of (OG Fallout or Tod Howard Fallout) with OG Fallout being much much darker and realistic in terms of the dangers of actual fallout effects. While Tod Fallout is more about the Pulp Sci-Fi angle of the setting.
To be fair OG fallout also has a lot of pulp, from psychic powers to aliens, the ghouls and giant insects ect.
@@zachelkins1229 Somewhat, some of what you mentioned aren’t out of the question tho, like ghouls on a fundamental level could happen in that scenario, where people survived the bombs and got horribly irradiated but lived, disfigured and mutated and all. Although the whole living forever, not needing food or water thing was kinda weird.
For another military-oriented Fallout video you might like, Shoddycast's "NCR vs. Legion - Who will ultimately win America?" is an interesting strategic look at the conflict that is pivotal to Fallout: New Vegas.
your statement that longterm radioactive fallout from nuclear bomb is based on the assumption that nuclear weapon research in the fallout universe followed the same path that it did in ours. which since laser and plasma weapons are a common thing in fallout but are functionally impossible with our current technology its safe to say research between the 2 universes is not equivalent. also nowhere in the lore does it say that these were "clean" bombs, it is possible they were intentionally designed to cause maximum radiation waste.
no its based on facts om how nuclear radiation works
even with an amount of research that doesnt change nuclear decay rates which is a universal factor of radiation
both chernobyl and herishima exsplosions came fromn the same materials and research yet one was habitable not even a decade later one is still not it has nothng to do with research or yeild
a bomb vaporises the nuclear material releasing it all at onese to make a blast thos is incredibly fast to decay after a bomb wouldnt leave much radiation by the fact its a bombs
a reactor is designed to constantly release radiation thats why chernobyl is still bad but no bomb site is
bopmbsdont leave nuclear waste they use all of it uop in the exsplosion
@@demonic_myst4503 well real radiation doesn't exactly create ghouls now does it? The radiation of fallout is different from reality.
37:35 Where did you get he was Roman? He's from hundreds of years into the future, he knows how technology that doesn't even exist right now works Paul.
during the dlc honest heart dlc in fnv the is a character named randall clark (aka the survivalist) that not only survived the nuclear war but after some time even lived a full life after. also the point you made about the futility of knowing antiquate military strategies doesn't really work since knowledge in general is axiomatic and adapt with circumstace if need be, edward sallow having a basic understanding of warfare and a extensive understanding on tribal culture and life on a post apocaliptic setting gave him the tools to creating his legion, also also he doesn't know shit about hegelian dialectics but he knows the value in appearing to know hegelian dialectics thats the basic motto on the legion and this concept of bullshitting your way through victory is very typical of the greatest dictators and influencers.
Peak Oil really is a fascinating history subject. Kinda like how nuclear armageddon was thought of way back when, and kinda like how global warming is thought of now. It was just a theory of how the world would reach apocalypse that, never actually happened. Since, by now in 2022, it was theorized that nearly all the natural resources would be depleted.
If you look at history, the US government thought we would run out of oil before even the 1900s. It's always been a lie.
Well technically something like a mass famine was gonna happen if something the Haber process wasn't invented to re-fertilize lands that have been harvested so much they ran out of nitrogen. Science and technology saved billions.
A lot of times the newer Fallout lore downplays just how horrifying and effective even the prototype power armor suits were. The reason why shipping power armored troops to cause chaos in Beijing made sense is because a SINGLE well trained soldier in power armor would require an entire tank battalion or the equivalent to deal with. Imagine a tank, but with armor twice as dense, able to move FASTER than some infantry, with sci-fi bullshit dampeners so striking heavy shells don't turn the person inside into salsa.
I have suggested that you could look at the Fallout (1) game manual, and the real life manuals they are basing it on.
That would be manuals made to prepare civilians for Nuclear war. "What to do when the bombs drop"
The one in Fallout is called: "Vault Dweller's Survival Guide"
One of the real life ones are called: "Fallout Protection: What To Know And Do About Nuclear Attack"
i think this video falls short on explaining the lore in the fallout universe, specifically in the tactics and forms of governments that rose up in the wasteland. First off the NCR, after the nuclear holocaust a lot of knowledge was lost as people turned away from preserving the past and started pursuing ways to survive the new hellishly radioactive wasteland they found themselves in, after a few particularly chaotic few decades followed of people exploring this new anarchistic world where its survival of the fittest and if your not willing to kill everything around you to survive then your gonna die, shortly after these chaotic decades as conflicts started to become the norm people started turning to larger groups either for supplies, protection or both, the NCR was an organized group that decided to learn from the past governments and hoped to use the knowledge of the old world to build a new world, based on an agrarian economy and exploring pre-war military tactical documents and history records for a direction in how to structure an organized military, the old pre-war military structure didn't fail the world it was the people in charge that failed, and if its not broken then don't fix it. Next up Caesars Legion, as the video discusses they're a dictorial slave state that sustains itself entirely by consuming weaker neighboring tribes and villages, the governing structure is a cult of personality centered around Caesar, what the video glosses over is the fact that the Legion is a luddite society that believes everything from the old world aside from military documents is wrong and so must be destroyed, their military and governments function almost exactly like the romans, for every city they destroy another prospers, and the soldiers of the conquered tribes and villages are not slaves themselves but are instead hired or indoctrinated in to the Legion's ranks, this combined with their luddite society means that they fight more with a quantity over quality military tactical sense, although this does not mean that they'll avoid using advanced weaponry, said technology is often reserved for their elite soldiers that are either the elite guard of caesar (imagine the Praetorians to the Romans) or as spies in more dangerous neighbors that they can't outright invade either because it'll be too costly to their forces or it might destroy a strategically important asset in said neighbor (think New Vegas, Caesar wanted the pre-war city intact prehaps more so than he wanted Hoover Dam). And then there's the Brotherhood of Steel, the video atleast admits to glossing over a tremendous amount of lore behind them and i'll admit the reason the video skipped so much is because they have a lot of lore, but the idea behind the Brotherhood of Steel is that the technology developed before the great war was simply too powerful to be trusted to people, a direct quote from Fallout 4 is "Science outpaced man's restraint" and what that means is that they believe that if given the chance mankind will abuse or misuse technology if given the chance unless they mature in their use and thinking in regards to technology, so they often delve in to pre-war research and military facilities to basically strip them of all technology and records, hoarding them so to avoid the posibility of the technology being misused, now their origins are partially right, they are pre-war US military that went AWOL after learning about inhumane nad unethical experiments in regards to developing new warfare technology, no doubt the source of their fanatical belief in that technology will be misused if given the chance, but they took shelter in bunkers created for scientists working on said technology. When you travel around the fallout universe a common sight when it comes to the Brotherhood of Steel is that they're masters of siege warfare, specifically in holding out during a siege, utilizing highly disciplined and extremely experienced soldiers weilding heavy weapons and power armour inside reinforced bunkers they are almost impossible for an opposing force to dislodge them without overwhelming force by several orders of magnitude equipped with decent quality equipment and training, even then the costs of defeating the Brotherhood of Steel in such an engagement are extremely high, even for technologically competitive enemies such as the NCR the idea of sieging down the Brotherhood of Steel when they have their bunkers is a last resort, instead a preferable tactic is to target their patrols and research teams, the same teams that go in to the afore mentioned pre-war ruins, because what the Brotherhood of Steel have in technology, tactics and discipline, they lack in numbers. In the government sense the Brotherhood of Steel has a sort of council of the most experienced and accomplished leaders, often chosen from the leadership of their military, although their government and their military are effectively one, in fact its better to think of their government as like all the leadership of the differnet branches of the US military and they decide amongst themselves which one is best suited to lead, the video explains that they're an honorable organization and that extends up the entirety of their leadership, and since they put their faith in science and restraint they'll genuinely put forward their vote on people they think is best for the role of "Elder" which is the leader of a particular chapter that operates in an area or region, and the other council members will act as advisors and assistants helping to manage the chapter and guide them forward. Now you might be thinking "this doesn't sound anything like what the US military leadership would do" well keep in mind that the original leadership that started the Brotherhood of Steel was scarred for life after seeing the experiments being done, and when the bombs fell they basically stewed with that trauma in isolation and spread it throughout the ranks, everyone knew what was happening, they all knew what had happened and they all decided to pursue this same goal, often remaining inside these reinforced bunkers, some of them their entire lives never setting foot outside their home of reinforced concrete and steel, knowing the trauma of the past, seeing the results of it everywhere they look and knowing they need to be both strong enough to tame this new world but also teach it to not make the same mistakes of the past, its easy to see how the Brotherhood of Steel are fanatical in their protection of humanity from technology and unrestrained scientific progress.
I highly doubt any of the 6 people who thumbed this up actually sat down and read this whole thing.
So, in regards to major targets during a nuclear exchange, I actually used to live in one. Albany, Or. was (and kind of still is) the highest priority non-military target on the West coast. This farming town with a present population of ~50k is such a high priority because it is home to a major steel mill that produces steel and titanium parts for bombs and aircraft, and it lies directly on I-5, a major artery that would be an incredibly important route for troops and supplies in a theoretical invasion of the West coast or Alaska by either Russia or China. A direct nuclear attack on Albany is such a major threat that schools did regular nuclear attack drills up until the oughts, and irregular drils were still occasionally held when I graduated in 2017.
During the Cold War, what is now Bangor International Airport housed interceptors and was a target of the Soviet Union.
There was also a radar station nearby that could see everything in the air from Moscow to the West Coast of America, and a highway that can actually land space shuttles because a long patch of it is made of cement rather than asphalt.
Security actually really sucked back then. My mother used to go on the air base to hang out with the maintenance crews. She even got to sit in the cockpit of an F-15 before. No clearance or anything, just some high-school girl with a pizza just wandering around an air force base that was listed as one of the first targets to be hit if the Cold War went Hot.
Fun fact: Depending on whether you consider it to be canon, the nuclear war was actually started by a supercomputer at the bottom of a military base in northern California. When you talk to it, the AI tells you that it had increased its processing efficiency so much, that it became bored, and decided to fire off a nuke to see what would happen.
yeah, but that is also only implied. There is also this theory floating around that vaulttech somehow got their hands on a nuke and fired it so that they could start their research.
But I guess it who started the war is intentionally kept vague to keep it an interesting mistery for us to discuss
The ai became sentient like 10 years after the bombs fell so it wouldn't even be able to get bored and do it own things until after the war
Unless there another ai you are talking about other then skynet
Yeah I’d love to see Paul react to more fallout lore. A channel that’s really in depth is shoddycast with the story teller series. Oxhorn is another great channel for lore. Anyhow great react glad you fixed the audio Paul.
Yeah, he's practically covered every part of the big games, like Fallout 1, 2, 3, New Vegas, 4, and 76.
What about using Cobal Nukes. That would be gift that keeps on giving.
What are cobal nukes?
@@vinuan A cobalt bomb is a type of "salted bomb": a nuclear weapon designed to produce enhanced amounts of radioactive fallout, intended to contaminate a large area with radioactive material, potentially for the purpose of radiological warfare. - Wiki
@@CommissarDan thanks
11:00 there's actually a historical alegori to that.
Mid XII century Poland was divided into districts by Bolesław III Krzywousty and given to his many children in order to prevent possible war for power between each other that lasted from 1138 to 1320.
While there weren't military wars per say, there was a constant fight for influence where districts went from ones hands into others and each district was weakened by lack of connection with others
If you want to kill a few minutes or see how dangerous nukes really are, look up nukemap. Allows you to simulate a bomb you choose detonating over an area you choose - can predict casualties, fallout, crater size, mushroom cloud size, etc.
or even better watch movie Threads (1984) ive seen it once 15 years ago and that shit still scares me
@@Infernus171 My father conviced me to watch that movie, thats nightmare fuel
As a enclave suppoter yes genocide is not answer its much more ethnic cleansing
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Welp, yes, but there was just 2 nuclear explosions, in the time of still developing nuclear weapons. Even after that, shortly after such explosions - the area WAS uninhabitable until some point.
But we forgot, what year are we talking about. It's 1945, but nuclear holocaust began in 2077. Time's changed, so are weapons. In a sense, nuclear weapons will be much, MUCH more devastating
The better nuclear weapons get, the less time they leave areas uninhabitable. Better nukes, are cleaner nukes.
@@zeallust8542 unless your specifically designing them to delete communist or capitalist scum. Plus it was most likely the large amounts of fission reactors across America.
@@zeallust8542 well it depends what you want to use them for right? I guess the best explanaition ofr the radiation in Fallout would be extremely dirty bombs.
They probably have a different docrine to us and want to render their target uninhabitable for a while.
@@meganoob12 Idk man. It seems like clean nuclear was actually a driving force prewar. Plus, a leveled city is uninhabitable, radiation or not. It would take a long long time to make it a real city again.
That said, as many people point out, everything ran on nuclear in Fallout. And we know all about companies cutting costs and making worse and less safe products to save 10 cents.
If your nuclear car gets nuked, Id bet itd actually be worse radiation-wise than the actual nuclear warheads
@@zeallust8542 not if the car is powered by a fusion reactor. Unfortunately pop culture spreads massive misinformation about the word nuclear. Nuclear simply means core. The energy of fission comes from splitting cores whilst fusion is… well fusing cores. These are two seperate concepts and processes that are very different in requirements.
There is nothing radioactive in fusion reactors, that could spread when they are destroyed.
It is described that cold fusion reactors had been introduced to the world of Fallout pre great war.
A leveled city is not uninhabitable at all as we can all see in all of the major cities in Europe or Hiroshima/Nagasaki. The point is to make them conmletely hostile to human life so that the enemy can‘t use the area for production or resources anymore
37:20 ....what makes you think they're literally an ancient Roman? this puts your entire "ACHKTULLY" persona in a much more negative and ignorant light
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Clarifying for TBOS : Although The BOS are plentiful and well armed. They are not a centralized faction and are seperated into Chapters. For example, The Mojave Chapter of The Brotherhood are complete losers when compared to their East Coast Brethrens. They were nearly wiped out when storming The Helios Power Station to obtain Old World Technology. Their main philosophy when oversimplified is basically "You have Old War Tech, give to me or you will die". Mr. House even ridiculed them for this worldview, calling them "The Self Entitled White Knights of The Mojave that think all technology in the world belongs to them". They are like The Templars if they are obsessed with Tech. Anyone who aren't part of them is a dangerous outsider and those who don't follow their ideals are to be terminated and considered "heretic". They even use Medieval Titles like "Scrybe" for Their RnD Boys, "Elder" for The Head of a Chapter, and "Paladin" for Their Power Armoured Guards and Soldiers.
Also to clarify another thing there is the Midwest brotherhood also casted out because they let super mutants and deathclaws in. Unofficial places they may be in is also Texas and Alaska from what I’ve heard. Since Fallout 4 came out the BoS in the east made contact with the OG BoS in the west and are returning to the original goal. So the Outcasts don’t exist anymore. Also because Fallout 76 exists they are also in West Virginia.
I hear you, and glad you recorded it again.
think about it like this way in Elder Scrolls we got a Roman generals we got magic that can be use as World War 1 artillery we have the red Africans of the nation of hammerfell who have recently developed black powder inversions of cannons for warships it is not a stretch that Firearms will be available in the coming century so I do not think it is a stretch that Roman general still have to soon figure out how to wage a war on a World War setting
The most important reason that the Wasteland is still irradiated in Fallout is that in Fallout radiation is basically magical. Radiation and lots of other tech/science is more based on 50's sci fi and horror than it is on any variety of scientific data
That and in real life there are ways to make nukes permanently irradiated the environment for centuries just like that nuclear power plant that had a melt down I don't know how to spell did irradiated the environment around it for nearly a century as is and it getting better but it still there and disturbing the soil by digging can agitate the irradiated dust like some Russian soldiers did and got bad radiation poisoning
@@kennyburkamp4054 This is where pop culture is actually spreading massive misinformation on how radiation actually works.
I suppose you are talking about the Chernobyl power plant and it's desaster in 1986. Now radiation in pop culture wants to make us believe that something that is irradiated starts to emit radiation itself which is completely wrong.
What happened in and around the Chernobyl power plant was that the reactor had a meltdown which caused an almost endless chain reaction of nuclear fission.
A nuclear reactor in it's essentials works in the same way the steam engine does. The nuclear fission emits energy on form of heat. The reactor also contains water as a coolant, aswell as as a medium to slow down the raction. Now water also flows through some pipes and is turned into steam by the heat of the reaction. This steam powers a turbine which creates electricity in a similar way to a dynamo on a bike.
What happened in Chernobyl was that the chain reaction got out of control which released so much heat, that the coolant (water) turned gaseous. As we've all learned in science class, gas needs more space than liquid, so the pressure in the reactor rose to the point that the lit broke of. The heat was also so much, that the water split into oxygen and hydrogen, as we all now these to in compination with a spark are a deadly mixture. Something created a spark when the lid of the reactor broke of creating a huge explosion.
Now here we get back to the radiation thing. Radiation is always emitted by something. What happened in Chernobyl was that the explosion shot fission products into the air in dust form, spreading these radioactive isotopes all over the place. this dust stil lexist in the area creating these zones where you cannot go.
Most of the material has changed over time, as the decay continues and the very dangerous stuff is almost not existant anymore now.
To summerize my point, the area around Chernobyl (and the world in Fallout) are not deadly because they got irradiated. There are radioactive isotopes in form of dust, that stem from the reactor's core, that cause the radiation there.
LOL I hope you figure out how to make the second reactions as genuine as the first
It's not the same video?
@@ConkerVonZap it’s a reupload as yesterday he uploaded one without recording audio
Can you figure that out yourself? Of course it won't be the same thing, maybe with some class actor.. which he never claimed he was.
Nothing outlandish here?
Cheers for the re-upload!
I remember that in fallout new vegas NCR paper money was almost garbage because their gold used to back it was destroyed by the brotherhood
The word “ not aiming for extermination of the population “ followed by the the word “aiming for high population areas”
An interesting dive is looking at the plans the original developers of Fallout had for their version of Fallout 3, a project known as Fallout Van Buren. The UA-cam channel Retconn Raider is doing full dive into the design documents of the game and is worth checking out.
Radiation in the Fallout works the way most people assumed it would in the 50's.
“That level of cruelty isn’t used today” that’s pretty funny
uh, are you forgetting that it's an alternate reality from ours where, everyone has resorted to nuclear-powered stuff instead of shunning the nuke...
Do keep in mind that the nuclear fallout was due to literally every single bomb that both sides had on each other.
Yeah he really thought he was smart for comparing 2 bombs being dropped to 2 global powers going into a full exchange
Man I loved the comment section on the broken upload, sh*t was so funny. (It was saying Paul had such great words, a good speech, etc.)
If you want to do more videos reacting to Fallout Lore videos, I recommend the ShoddyCast Fallout Lore series. It's my favorite series to watch/listen to, and they go over many details of the mutants, factions, important characters like Robert House, and locations.
On a side note, the glossed-over Midwest Brotherhood became warlords, building a nation from Chicago to Colorado Springs (the last part of the game their in, "Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel" has you using a Nuke to break into Cheyenne Mountain's Vault 0).
Bethesda (and even Black Isle) has been rather Hot and Cold as to whether or not Fallout Tactics is Canon and if the Midwest Brotherhood exists. With Ceasar's Legion encroaching upon the Colorado Territories (one of the tribes in the Legion comes from Dogtown, which is what remains of Denver), and New Vegas stating there's an Enclave Outpost in Chicago.
What's a Chicago?
@@smileyshy3d A United States City on the shores of Lake Michigan, best known for the assorted Mafia wars in the 1920's and 1930's of which Al Capone was known for leading one of the gangs until he was arrested for Tax Evasion. In more recent history, it was the location of the movie "Chicago", which was based off a stage musical, which was based off a stage play which was loosely based off of actual criminals.
Feels weird to think Cheyenne would even have a vault.
@@WintersFinalstand Not too hard, considering there is a military base already under the mountain IRL, I've been there and helped with "NORAD tracking Santa" one year. Of course, Nukapedia points out several differences between Vault Zero and an actual Vault...like fallout 3 showed you couldn't open a real vault with a nuke...
@@SwordlordRoy I work in the same field.
In the Fallout 1 intro you do see a Canadian protester get shot and killed by an American troop wearing power armor.
It occurs to me that the, "understanding of military tactics," played out almost exactly how one would expect. The Roman strategy and tactics were effective against the uncoordinated tribes, with a relatively low level of technology, but The Legion started grinding itself to paste when it encountered the NCR at Hoover Dam.
Finally some audio!
I’d love to see you tackle more fallout lore!
RadKing does some pretty solid videos
Oxhorn covers things pretty in depth
I think it’s implied that with the continued red scare, there was a continued progression of nuclear technology and from the low morals most pre-war military minds had in the Fallout universe, they likely progressed further along the line with cobalt bombs as well.
sucks that you had to rerecord the video, thanks for doing it though
Fallout lore is fascinating yet perplexing and I love every second of it
If you what to know what caused the time timeline split its this: the transistor was not invented until the 2020's where as there was major advices in micro-nuclear technology.
Thats not what caused the timeline split. Timeline isn't the same up to WW2 for example Sunset Sarsaparilla was founded in 1918.
It was interesting how you also reasoned that using the society of the old war would not work in the post apocalypse, as it is one of the basis of Caesar's legion. Caesar was originally a member of the Followers of the Apocalypse, a group dedicated to preserving humanity. One of the follower's main goals is to ensure that humanity doesn't repeat history in a way that would cause the true extinction of humans, ie the old world. While slavery and conquest are harsh, the wasteland is harsh and it proved to be extremely effective.
It's important to note that in the fallout timeline the high yield fusion bombs which you mention are not the ones used, in fallout the nukes used ate specifically dirty bombs, low yield nukes designed to spread radioactive materials as opposed to thermal shock
I would love to see your thoughts on more fallout lore!
i remember a theory (probably from the ol game theory channel) that the nukes used in the fallout verse werent actually big boom nukes, but smaller nukes that were actually meant to scatter radioactive particulates. that might be why, though as far as i know that hasnt been officially confirmed
When I heard people think fallout is unrealistic because they had 50s aesthetic I immediately thought "the most unrealistic part of fallout is the fact that they don't have color tv... not even in the 2070s"
Really cool video. He did gloss over alot especially with the Alaska Conflict, but as he said, that'ed a whole lot longer of a video lol
Well, here we go, take 2.
Ay, the cat gave you back your tongue
1:00 Except it isn't by us, so...no, it wouldn't be us destroying ourselves. People seem to forget that Earth is still recovering from the last ice age...
One of things not mentioned early on is the fact that the US developed fusion reactors and so slowly the demand for oil in fueling vehicles began to drop. The problem is that during the conflict China developed a disease that Virologists in the US simply called "the great plague" combined with discontent at home over the ever-increasing prices of food and other resources. The US hadn't fully swapped over by the time armed conflict with the PRC began and we still had military vehicles that were reliant upon oil/gas.
Wait 34:10 when did you react to the seth´s company of heroes video?
I’m highly amused at how “Prooobably not” seems like something of a catch phrase of yours by this point.
Watch the opening cinematic for Fallout 4. It explains a quite a bit about how nuclear technology became normalized and the role it plays in the Fallout version of Earth. The Cold War, as we know it, never happened until sometime around the mid-21st century, and that was between the U.S. and China, not Russia.
I got a history lecture from this guy in the first 1 minute, I can conclude I am now an experienced Russian captain who likes to fire nukes unprovoked
We can replace oil for cars and power plants. But we need it for chemical proseses for example to produce plastic.
The Nukes used in the Fallout universe are far far smaller yield than the nuke dropped on Hiroshima. You need a dozen of these small Fallout bombs to destroy a city, however in the Fallout universe their destructive might wasn't the primary goal of the bombs. It was to blanket the area in nuclear fallout. The majority of the bombs, by design, blew in the atmosphere and not by hitting anything. The Fallout universe diverged from our own during world War 2 (Fallout 3 had some mentions of WW2 history that never happened).
I keep looking down at your shirt thinking it’s a sweat stain 😅😂
There's a series that goes into way more detail and nuance about the lore on a channel called Shoddycast. I get that this one is supposed to be a summary but it glances over a LOT for the sake of time.
Like how technology diverged in the 1950s ; Where instead of developing transistor tech, the Fallout universe invented the microfission reactor which became the standard power source in many household appliances ( and also lead to the creation of retro-looking reactor robots ). This significantly contributed to the radiation problems that persisted in the wasteland ( the average car was basically a 200 mph, 2 ton Davy Crockett ).
There was also an issue with nuclear waste, which became as prevalent as highway litter and landfills, coupled with corruption in local and federal government agencies common to this exaggerated late stage capitalist society, leading to massive deregulation in disposing of hazardous materials. Basically, imagine if Chernobyl was hit with a nuke. Now imagine if there was a Chernobyl every few miles from each other. Only the most remote areas would be safe from the contamination.
There are also some fantastic elements to the reason why Fallout's world is how it is, including but not limited to aliens and Lovecraftian inspired cosmic horror entities pulling strings from behind the scenes.
On the matter of Caesar, his strategic knowledge is some matter of debate, and the game seems to indicate he was more of an educated huckster brimming with charisma that the tribals responded to and around which his cult was built. He used a corrupted aesthetic of Rome as a culture to inspire obedience and awe. The real strategy and military skill came from his companion in the time before he was Caesar ; A Mormon missionary named Joshua Graham, who would later become known as the Malpais Legate, and far more infamously, "The Burned Man" ( Mormons actively practice Doomsday preparation in the form of military training and SHTF survival. Yes, this is a real thing. Look it up). A man who Caesar himself would fear so much, that even after Caesar set him on fire and threw him into the Grand Canyon, mentioning his name or his legend was grounds for decimation.
Lastly, while the Brotherhood is indeed a cult, the goal of that cult isn't to go kill mutants. It's to safeguard technology and keep it from falling into hands that would abuse them ( Sometimes these threats came from within the Brotherhood, such as during New Vegas' "Dead Money" DLC, which revolved around a senior member of the Brotherhood who goes AWOL looking for pre-war tech to commit a genocide with ).
Yes, please do more Fallout lore!
The issue with the Fukushima, nagasaki and hiroshima examples. People cleaned up after that and we didn't use dirty bombs
the nukes used on Japan were only 25 kt, now most countries have nukes that are 50 Mt
At 27:43 you where talking about those nuclear areas but the nukes used in this war are almost 100x lagger and made to give off radiation in order to full wipe each other out
The thing with the Fallout Universe is not just the nukes and radiation but the government had been releasing and testing bio-agents on the population and one of them mutated and got out of hand and spread beyond the test group to infect the whole planet which is where the FEV which created the super mutants came from. And as for the nukes it has been speculated among fans that the warheads were cobalt seeded or some other exotic seeding to produce a longer lasting radiation footprint than standard.
hey hey, you have to add in the "with modern day forces against modern day Afghanistan" to your analogy. romans were pretty used to fighting in the desert and steppe, Persia was a big enemy of theirs.
If you want more Fallout Lore I suggest Oxhorn who has a lot of lore videos.
yeah would love to see your thoughts on it and how bethesda keeps changing the lore
21 seconds into the video he's reviewing, doesn't let him finish his point and immediately goes on tangent.
Fallout Lore is Great. Would enjoy your Dives into some of the Factions
I'd add that I'd love to see a playthrough/reaction to the classic game, World In Conflict
The little ice age wasn't in the middle ages.
My father was in Vietnam and he said why he was on ship that planes would come by periodically and spray the ship with unknown chemicals
The big thing about the fallout universe is that transistors weren't invented until right before the bombs fell, so they had to rely on vacuum tube tech
Also we've calculated that the Tsar Bomba if ever set off, would shift EARTH'S ORBIT AROUND THE SUN
Oh yeah i think its important to mention, the fallout nukes are much smaller, and much more radiation based, and about spreading radioactive ashes
oh my god you have no idea how much of a breath of fresh air it is to hear someone intelligently articulate one of the causes of high oil prices and not just say "High oil price = biden fault"
Is this a tutorial on how to make a 15 min video into a 48 min video?
Don't get me wrong, I love Paul's videos but he has a bad habit of pausing while the video in question is making a point and going on pointless tangents that are covered in said video.
I'd love to see you comment on the video "NCR Vs Legion - who will ultimately win America" by Shoddycast
It's the type of video I'd guess youd have a lot of good points to make on
Also their most recent video is on the legion and it's quite a good exploration.
Other then that the templin Institute has done a few videos that cover things generally
A personal anecdote on the subject of experiments on soldiers... I was a Human Research Volunteer for 6 months when I was in the Army. Basically sent TDY there after AIT at Natick, Mass. You get to choose from several ongoing experiments when you get there. Biggest one I did back than was a sleep deprivations study.
On a similar note I also had an uncle who was in the Navy in the 50s and was part of one of the nuclear detonations in and around the Bikini Atoll. Surprise! He died of cancer...
Another key point missed in the video was the nukes in fallout were specifically designed to be portable and small payload bombs with extremely volatile materials that left more... fallout. And thus is the supposed reason for so much radiation being everywhere but even still, in the lore the world wasn't wiped clean and a lot of people did survive and were the founders of some of the factions in the game
Isn’t it kind of weird that the guy drew the men of the legion using guns
Just wanted to point out that bombs in the Fallout universe are more like neutron bombs (but larger) and are designed to cause as much fallout as possible.
Yes! I'd love to see more of these.
Easy to call someone a half baked writer when your hair was maintained so "half baked" it up and left.
Yes please more fallout lore videos 🙏
Will we get to see you go over Shoddycast’s fallout lore videos? They go really in depth with the lore on certain topics and stories within the Fallout lore.
Punished Paul, Betrayed by his own mic