thrilled to hear the sweetspot is improved!!! I am now very seriously considering this as my high end VR headset upgrade for DCS! big congrats to Bigscreen on this device, so impressive what they've been able to accomplish and get out to market!
@JozefTrubac wrong question. You have to maneuver the G2 on your face in order to get it perfect and as soon as you make a quick movement the inertia can move the headset. With the Beyond its 100% centered 100% of the time and 100% in the sweet spot.
You still need controllers and a base station, an audio solution ($129 on their site), and for me the prescription lenses ($79 also on their site). So this is just about as expensive as a Varjo Aero but the IPD can't be adjusted for other family members. Unfortunately for Bigscreen, I'll take a wait an see attitude.
if you're sitting, you only really need one base station and with simming, you have your peripherals to control things, no need for controllers, i mean if you have your old controllers from old headsets you are still good.
I feel like the guys at Bigscreen said *If you want it done right, we'll do it ourselves* For years we've been asking for a vr headset with pancake lenses and oled panel that's comfortable. I'll be using your affiliate link and use my friends iPhone. 🔥
I think this is the way to go, smaller. Fed up with the Pimax and poor customer service and faults and too big and bulky so that is going back. When you review would be nice to know how their customer service will operate, how quick to respond, replacements, promises etc... It would be nice to know they have infrastructure in place and can handle their product and support it. I am going to order the Varjo, after update, wink wink, and will also try the Bigscreen as well, through your link. Thanks for the reviews, finding them extremely useful for my business.
I've always said the Pimax looks ridiculous irrespective of how it performs. Just call me Squarebob Spongepants. Alternatively wear a letterbox on your head.
I actually just returned my crystal. It didn't support my face shape, so that combined with weight made the sweet spot hard to stay in. So often I would get distortions and discomfort
Comfortability first. That's what I've learned after using headsets that are uncomfortable. It's the most important aspect in my opinion--the more comfortable, the better, over almost everything else.
Now we need to know how the retail version performs with systems and cards lower than the CPU and 4090 you have. I appreciate it works beautifully with your top of the range system but that's not real world for the majority.
@@ReavoEnd Totally agree. I rarely watch this channel anymore. No real world scenarios, no real bench marking, etc. All you get is, "this headset is amazing. My I9 and 4090 blah blah blah...." Soryy for being so harsh, but it is true. Never see any offline or online traffic. Always flying simple planes in the middle of the country. Gets boring. My friends and I call this channel the influencer bragging VR channel. Sorrry to be troll like, but it gets old.
Resolution is fairly standard and comparable to the Reverb G2 so it will be fairly similar ... Maybe better since with 75 hz it has a nice intermediate setting
I got asked for my face scan last Saturday!!! Whoooohooo it's happening. Just need to wait 2 months for delivery. Mark your comments on glare will be appreciated when you get yours.
9:25 Same, that's why I've been patiently waiting with my Vive Pro. But I don't like the custom fit gasket nor the fixed IDP. I know the latter is a requirement for such a small weight, but the weight never bothered me.
That seals the deal! After being disappointed by the Aero's comfort, Bigscreen Beyond is the next contender. The comfort is the main selling point for me! Looking so much forward to it.
I'm 41 now with some minor neck issues and this headset is so enticing. I can only play my Index for about 45 minutes before I start getting uncomfortable, but I can wear my FPV goggles for days and those weigh over 100g less than the Beyond. Also to address the "I don't have an iPhone" issue, I have heard of people going to the Apple store to use the app.
This is super exciting, everything that seemed like a downside for me appears to just be gone! Glare doesn't bother me, so I'm very excited to get mine.
For Mura you may want to check dark environments or fly at night. I'd love to get this headset but it's like 1,4k with tax to order it to my location so it's a bit of a steep curve compared to the 1k its supposed to cost. Don't even have base stations as well so that's totaling like 2k for the whole setup... Hard to justify when I don't spend that much time in VR.
Been following your report on the Bigscreen Beyond, but until this report, I hadn’t looked up the price. £1100 on the website. OK, my Valve Index was £999 for the full kit 3yrs ago, but this is almost as much as a Vario Aero. So a big outlay for most. Nice to see they’ve put a headstrap in the box as well now. Sounds amazing comfort wise & as you say, the colours & visuals sound like they may be worth the price. Personally, still not going to be able to afford one short of a lottery win. (I won my Index in a competition. 1st thing ever)
@@davidvincent380 In the UK the import tax makes the difference, so once thats added, we pay the same or more than the US price equivilent. The UK pound listing is £1200. Not saying it's not worth it but it's a stretch for most. The company's efforts & product in the market witha light weight focus is appreciated for sure
I'm kinda surprised it doesn't come with an extra "should fit most people" gasket for when (or if) you demo it to other people. (maybe you can order one if you want one, idk) Other than that tiny quibble, seems like a great option for people who put form factor and comfort at a premium. Man VR is tech is moving so fast, it must be a conundrum to have to chose only one and stick with it for potentially 4-5 years. I got my Quest 2 (soon to be 3) and psvr2 so I get to sit back on the sidelines and watch the VR parade move on by, with every float being more impressive than the last. And we still got the mysterious "Deckard" waiting in the shadows, potentially destroying all in its awesomeness. Good times. 😄
The reason they don’t have a generic face gasket is because of the IPD. The sweet spot is not very large and you would want the person using it be in the sweet spot. That’s why it is soooo specific.
yeah, I love when I get the opportunity to get someone who has never seen VR to sit in my VR cockpit for a minute or have them try Half Life Alyx. They're blown away every time lol
Yeah becasue the IPD and gasket are custom fit to your face scan another person would likely experience light leakage and no sweet spot. So its not really a sharable headset. To add IPD adjustment they would have had to make the form factor larger defeating its advantage.
I'm so, so greatful for bigscreen in making this headset, even though I can't afford one. This headset is absolutely a statement, and it is going to have definite positive effecr on the industry
If the reviews continue to be positive when they start to ship, I will definitely be ordering one of these. I do wonder how difficult it would be to make up a generic face pad in case your mates want to have a go?
They would also need the same IPD, or its going to look off. I've heard it's interchangeable enough to let someone else give it a try, even with the custom face pad, though.
What worries me about the custom fit face gasket is, it's meant to fit your face at a given time. Tomorrow, my face may swell/shrink because of any kind of reasons (disease, depression, etc.) and it won't be a perfect fit anymore. If VR headsets actually made face cushions similarly to the gel pads used for hearing protection muffs (peltor for example), you could strap it hard against your face and it still wouldn't feel like it's pressing too hard, because gel pads are that good.
Thanks for the update. Still a bit dear for me but price may drop when they start shipping serious quantities. Not sure what you mean by the glare, is there any way you can show the effect in a video?
Glare is where white letters on a black background (or similar) bleed into that background. It's like the white part has an aura. It's by far the worst part of VR movie viewing.
with a headset that small the thing I'm worried about is the FOV and stereoscopic overlap. How is it? With a modded Reverb I can sit in a theater and the stereo overlap covers the entire theater screen.
I'm very interested in how watching movies in Bigscreen is like. I want something close to what the new Apple Vision Pro looks like it can do. Can you lay down with it? Or rest your head on a recliner? Great review so far!
@@MrCrrispy I'm still with my Rift, resolution is shit, godrays mura and eveyrithin is there but at least it has oled. 😂 And built in headphones are great imho, of course I have no other reference... 🤷
Depends on what you want to play . If you want to play boneworks or half-life Alyx than the 3090 is enough . If you want to play no man sky , modded Skyrim or fly and racing sims I suggest a 4090 But I really don't advise getting this hmd since Somnium vr1 will be released very soon with much much bigger fov than this hmd
my first vr was the Oculus Rift, and I loved it but it was too pixelated and felt like i was looking through swimming goggles, and it was very heavy especially when playing on war thunder. This is almost twice as better in every aspect, all these years on. I will definitely order these!
The cost is wild for just the headset, makes me wonder if I could get it to replace my original HTC Vive with the original base stations and controllers. What about the "Screen Door Effect"?
I wish the standalone headsets were this size and just had all the processing and battery in a little puck that you can strap to your belt or clipped onto a haptic vest or whatever. I want as much weight off of my head as possible. I'll happily wear a discman on my hip if I can have a headset this light.
I have the Index and i do not see any glare when i am in a game. I perfectly see the glare in steam vr home\lobby and when i look at some light text\pictures on a dark background. Anyway, do you see any screendoor effect in the Beyond?
Considering this costs £500 less than the Crystal, meaning you can get the BSB, base stations and controllers for the same price, the Crystal screen would need to be dramatically better imo for the BSB not to be better. It looks so much more comfortable, and I'm sure the controllers and tracking would be much better than the Crystal. If I had base stations and controllers I'd be really tempted to order this...
I’d order it in a second if it didn’t require the investment in the base station and controllers. As far as I’m concerned that requirement kills this product.
@@Killswitch1411 I doubt there is a single Crystal user who wouldn't rather the XR2 wasn't taken out of the headset so it could be smaller, lighter and not have to run on batteries. Nobody is going to use the Crystal as a standalone headset. The eye tracking is nice of course.
@@kevinbrook7033That's not the point.. We all wanted that, but guess what it didn't happen. So staying on topic you pay more for more tech...The Beyond is bare bones, panels and lenses and a plastic casing.. Yet it still cost 1000 without controllers and Base stations.
@@Killswitch1411 apart from the eye tracking it's extra tech that nobody wants. If the Crystal had no XR2 Soc, no battery, no controllers and could therefore be lighter, smaller and cost $1000 like the BSB it would be a much better and more desirable headset. How is paying an extra $600 over the BSB for some crappy controllers with mediocre tracking plus an obselete XR2 Gen 1 Soc that cannot possibly power 2880 x 2800 per eye resolution displays in standalone good value? They should have sold it headset only like the BSB and let it just run on base stations and Index controllers. You're paying $600 for useless crap that just makes the headset worse.
Is it possible to have 2 people wear this headset flying same plane locally? Pilot & another person both wearing this headset & can look around cockpit interchangeably?
2560² per eye seems a bit low, as does 75 Hz and I've heard the FoV is on the low-end of things. If they can improve those and add eye tracking (I think foveated rendering is going to be essential for VR in the future), I'd definitely be getting one!
The hp reverb g2 has been the best purchase I've made got it at release and its still going strong.....still can't max out racing or flight sims with a 4070ti so no point in considering an upgrade.
I'm not going backwards though. the vr i have had for 5+ years now has been 90hz. and tbh higher would be better, you can still see the individual frames depending on what game you are playing. so whilst this headset is great, it needs to be slightly cheaper, include controllers and inside out tracking, and at least 90hz. then i am very interested. as it is its not for me.
They mentioned that 75hz in refresh rate with micro OLED is a lot faster than 90hz with LCD. That being said, 75hz is when you use the biggest resolution available. Otherwise, you could use the smaller resolution at 90hz. Although it has some compression, according to them, with the upscaling, it will be virtually as good as if you had no compression at all.
Man, it really is such a sexy looking headset and I really think that counts... for alot. We're trying to get mainstream adoption and nobody tackled this problem till now. I suspect that's something Apple didn't consider enough but we'll see. Well done to Bigscreen. Its such a shame it has the glare issue though. This and the unfortunate reality of the price holds me back. The price is fair. It's just too much for me realizing how little I'd use it. I know when I do decide to buy another VR headset though that I won't settle for anything but this type of form factor.
whether you need a prescription, that doesn't alter your facial structure nor your IPD. I could use my prescription lenses or contacts as I prefer. So no, you will be able to supply your prescription to Bigscreen and purchase the lenses separately.
May I ask you this ? Bigcsreen beyond with micro oled , so I noticed cheap headsets like Quest 2 Quest 3 using LCD . LCD caused SDE = mosquito net, so how about Micro Oled in bigscreen beyond ? zero mosquito net ?
I have still the htc vive and love to fly at night/sunset/morning - a new HMD have to have OLED ...thats the reason i didnt went with the Index or other HMD with led
Man I have paid so much for the Quest 3 and all the accessories. If it was for me alone, I would have went straight to PCVR only. But my father and brother both have Quest headsets (my brother has no PC) and I wanna play with them. Many drawbacks to the Q3 with the Display and such, but I'll enjoy it anyway.
Damn, I want one but none of my friends and family use iPhones, all androids. Is there a way to emulate an app for iOS on an android? Or are they planning to make the app available on Android?
@@VRFlightSimGuy Very different. However, the Beyond might be worth it for me if Im only using it for something like Virtual Desktop and Bigscreen for flat games which is primarily what Id do with the Quest 3. So Im wondering how much of a difference there is between the displays.
I really like the small size of the unit...very impressed. However for me theres simply not enough decent VR titles to warrent spending a thousand quid on VR. I would be interesting to see how it performs on a more common and average PC build also.
You don't need a hundred good titles, just at least one or two that you really enjoy. For me, simply the existence of Into the Radius is enough for me to want to upgrade from (plugging my quest into pcvr) to this.
@@vracan yeah I get that but i cant even say there's the Quality. Most titles are just kiddy stuff. When you can play red dead 2, Modern Warfare, Battlfield, the new upcoming GTA 6, etc and it works natively then yeah. Elite dangerous was pretty good in VR though!!.
it's true there aren't that many good PC VR games, but to me the key is using tools like VorpX or Reshade Depth3D filter to convert and play many of the most popular games & MMO's with the biggest budgets, some games I'm playing right now in 3D VR: Elden Ring Baldur's Gate 3 Star Trek Resurgence Scarlet Nexus Marvels Guardians of the Galaxy Journey Eternights
Something many reviewers forget is how taxing on hardware is the hmd. Not everyone has a top of the line rig. Good video though man I never knew about this hmd.
Yea the Mic sounds great . Plus , … from a vr streaming perspective I think it looks more natural to have less of the face hidden. Ps another great video 👍
Please test it with MSFS and report back! And, how is it to temporarily lift up to use a keyboard or pad of paper? Can it comfortably rest on your forehead like a pair of ski goggles?
I'm really interested in getting one of these headsets, but the problem I have with it is the need for an iPhone for the face scan - neither I nor anyone I know has a suitable iPhone.
@@Adamitar Not a hard one for me. In a couple weeks I'll have a more well informed opinion, but I'm thinking that the Beyond will be what I prefer by a margin.
@@x32i77 The VR1 is like an Aero or Crystal. In fact it uses the same displays as the Crystal. It's comfort is still unknown, but it is a mini LED aspheric lens headset. It's only real claim to fame is the modularity. The Beyond is something apart from those three headsets and is in a category of its own. So if you are looking at an Aero wait for the future of the Aero announcement on the 20th. If you are looking at a Crystal, wait to see how the VR1 looks since it should have more FOV. But if you have had a large bulky headset and want to improve the overall experience and immersion of VR, look at the Bigscreen Beyond.
Hi! What’s up? Let me say that I’ve been looking for a VR where I could find the best FOV and the Pimax is the the VR I have. I do like the FOV because your range view is more like the normal view you can have if you are using a helmet when you’re flying. But, the headset is not confort!!! My quest to you is it to much different the FOV in between the two? Cheers for your attention. (Sorry the english is not my native language)
So you buy it. then find a apple user scan your face? how long of a process do you have after you buy it to wait for your new face placement will be ready? and how bad does this affect if you want a family member or friend to use it? im guessing the lack of hand controllers for hand /motion tracking? I really want to update my VR to get AR this time if it wasn't for the quest 3 being 1/2 the price of this with AR and VR capability's. makes this price point to fall apart.
The process of order, scan, production will be one of weeks, right now they are still fulfilling preorders. For family members, see @Reavo's comments above - in short, it depends on their IPD vs yours, but it's never gonna be better for them vs you. Doesn't come with controllers or base stations, there is no cameras so no hand tracking.
@@heavygeevr sounds like its really fitted for movie viewing mainly. Its missing to many features that will be coming on a $500 VR I understand paying extra for small size but missing out on hand tracking, and controllers along with AR and depth sensor for 2x the price. I prob value AR ability's to much. I have had my rift for long time. I really been wanting to play with AR.
Wow! It looks amazing! Well, at least from what you're telling us, anyway. LOL Very glad you were able to be their tester. I'll have to look into this one, literally, as well as figuratively. ;)
thrilled to hear the sweetspot is improved!!! I am now very seriously considering this as my high end VR headset upgrade for DCS! big congrats to Bigscreen on this device, so impressive what they've been able to accomplish and get out to market!
I am curious how does the sweet spot compares to G2 ?
@JozefTrubac wrong question. You have to maneuver the G2 on your face in order to get it perfect and as soon as you make a quick movement the inertia can move the headset. With the Beyond its 100% centered 100% of the time and 100% in the sweet spot.
@@Raycinjaycin I am talking about the sharp area.
@@JozefTrubac that's edge to edge clarity
You still need controllers and a base station, an audio solution ($129 on their site), and for me the prescription lenses ($79 also on their site). So this is just about as expensive as a Varjo Aero but the IPD can't be adjusted for other family members. Unfortunately for Bigscreen, I'll take a wait an see attitude.
if you're sitting, you only really need one base station and with simming, you have your peripherals to control things, no need for controllers, i mean if you have your old controllers from old headsets you are still good.
I feel like the guys at Bigscreen said *If you want it done right, we'll do it ourselves*
For years we've been asking for a vr headset with pancake lenses and oled panel that's comfortable. I'll be using your affiliate link and use my friends iPhone. 🔥
Thankyou so much for your support 😊
I think this is the way to go, smaller. Fed up with the Pimax and poor customer service and faults and too big and bulky so that is going back. When you review would be nice to know how their customer service will operate, how quick to respond, replacements, promises etc... It would be nice to know they have infrastructure in place and can handle their product and support it. I am going to order the Varjo, after update, wink wink, and will also try the Bigscreen as well, through your link. Thanks for the reviews, finding them extremely useful for my business.
I've always said the Pimax looks ridiculous irrespective of how it performs. Just call me Squarebob Spongepants. Alternatively wear a letterbox on your head.
I actually just returned my crystal. It didn't support my face shape, so that combined with weight made the sweet spot hard to stay in. So often I would get distortions and discomfort
Gregory cheers mate, and once again, THANKYOU for your amazing donation to the channel. It really does help. Take care
Comfortability first. That's what I've learned after using headsets that are uncomfortable. It's the most important aspect in my opinion--the more comfortable, the better, over almost everything else.
always be fed up, as consumer
Now we need to know how the retail version performs with systems and cards lower than the CPU and 4090 you have. I appreciate it works beautifully with your top of the range system but that's not real world for the majority.
FWIW: on a mobile 3070 GPU + Intel i7 CPU, still works pretty dang great!
@@ReavoEnd Totally agree. I rarely watch this channel anymore. No real world scenarios, no real bench marking, etc. All you get is, "this headset is amazing. My I9 and 4090 blah blah blah...." Soryy for being so harsh, but it is true. Never see any offline or online traffic. Always flying simple planes in the middle of the country. Gets boring. My friends and I call this channel the influencer bragging VR channel. Sorrry to be troll like, but it gets old.
you can always lower the resolution, it won't look the best but you can lower to the quest 2's res for example.
Resolution is fairly standard and comparable to the Reverb G2 so it will be fairly similar ... Maybe better since with 75 hz it has a nice intermediate setting
Even more excited to see my Bigscreen Beyond in the next few weeks! Thanks for the update!
My pleasure buddy.
I got asked for my face scan last Saturday!!! Whoooohooo it's happening. Just need to wait 2 months for delivery.
Mark your comments on glare will be appreciated when you get yours.
Thanks so much for the video was fun to watch as I wait for mine hopefully in the coming week.
Now it's your turn! I can't wait to hear your first impressions 😊
Question, how about for those of us wearing corrective lenses ??????
I've been playing a lot of flat games lately on a giant cinema screen inside Bigscreen. This is probably great for that.
9:25 Same, that's why I've been patiently waiting with my Vive Pro. But I don't like the custom fit gasket nor the fixed IDP. I know the latter is a requirement for such a small weight, but the weight never bothered me.
What about people with glasses? Is there a way to add extra lenses to accommodate the eyes?
That seals the deal! After being disappointed by the Aero's comfort, Bigscreen Beyond is the next contender. The comfort is the main selling point for me! Looking so much forward to it.
Not with glare and those lenses and FOV, not for my wallet anyway but hoping it works out for you
@@whiteflyingmonkey i come from the valve index so glare on the beyond will probably be mild compared to that.
@@whiteflyingmonkeyFov isn't even a big deal lol
@@Gervaj79it is 😂
I'm 41 now with some minor neck issues and this headset is so enticing. I can only play my Index for about 45 minutes before I start getting uncomfortable, but I can wear my FPV goggles for days and those weigh over 100g less than the Beyond.
Also to address the "I don't have an iPhone" issue, I have heard of people going to the Apple store to use the app.
Shame to hear about the glare, but overall I'm very excited to receive mine at some point in Q4.
This is super exciting, everything that seemed like a downside for me appears to just be gone! Glare doesn't bother me, so I'm very excited to get mine.
For Mura you may want to check dark environments or fly at night. I'd love to get this headset but it's like 1,4k with tax to order it to my location so it's a bit of a steep curve compared to the 1k its supposed to cost. Don't even have base stations as well so that's totaling like 2k for the whole setup... Hard to justify when I don't spend that much time in VR.
Sadly it's bradly reported that it has absolutely 0 Mura. This is due to micro oleds having quite a distinct manufacturing process to normal OLED.
sadly? isn't that good? you want 0 mura...?
In any case, Steve, fly this baby during night time!@@MassDefibrillator
@@SnakeHelah "sadly it's bradly" is the name of the youtuber. Yes, you definitely want 0 Mura.
If it had eye tracking, I would go for it. Waiting to see what else is coming like Valve, before making my move.
I can't stop watching Varjo Aero videos now mines on order.
Not been so excited since waiting for my CV1 back in 2016.
WHAT A PRICE.
Been following your report on the Bigscreen Beyond, but until this report, I hadn’t looked up the price. £1100 on the website. OK, my Valve Index was £999 for the full kit 3yrs ago, but this is almost as much as a Vario Aero. So a big outlay for most. Nice to see they’ve put a headstrap in the box as well now. Sounds amazing comfort wise & as you say, the colours & visuals sound like they may be worth the price. Personally, still not going to be able to afford one short of a lottery win. (I won my Index in a competition. 1st thing ever)
It's $1000 and don't forget the $2000 GPU you need to go with it
@@davidvincent380 In the UK the import tax makes the difference, so once thats added, we pay the same or more than the US price equivilent. The UK pound listing is £1200. Not saying it's not worth it but it's a stretch for most. The company's efforts & product in the market witha light weight focus is appreciated for sure
I'm kinda surprised it doesn't come with an extra "should fit most people" gasket for when (or if) you demo it to other people. (maybe you can order one if you want one, idk) Other than that tiny quibble, seems like a great option for people who put form factor and comfort at a premium. Man VR is tech is moving so fast, it must be a conundrum to have to chose only one and stick with it for potentially 4-5 years. I got my Quest 2 (soon to be 3) and psvr2 so I get to sit back on the sidelines and watch the VR parade move on by, with every float being more impressive than the last.
And we still got the mysterious "Deckard" waiting in the shadows, potentially destroying all in its awesomeness. Good times. 😄
The reason they don’t have a generic face gasket is because of the IPD. The sweet spot is not very large and you would want the person using it be in the sweet spot. That’s why it is soooo specific.
yeah, I love when I get the opportunity to get someone who has never seen VR to sit in my VR cockpit for a minute or have them try Half Life Alyx. They're blown away every time lol
Yeah becasue the IPD and gasket are custom fit to your face scan another person would likely experience light leakage and no sweet spot. So its not really a sharable headset. To add IPD adjustment they would have had to make the form factor larger defeating its advantage.
I'm so, so greatful for bigscreen in making this headset, even though I can't afford one. This headset is absolutely a statement, and it is going to have definite positive effecr on the industry
For a long time it's been backward evolution as far as LCD/fresnels are concerned. This has reignited my interest in VR.
Going from an HP Reverb G2 with index knuckles, I can't wait for my bigscreen to arrive
Hey @smallbutdeadly931.... how was/is your feedback BSB compared to G2?
Great to see you again and I awawiat to get mine when being offerered,It lokkks brill folks. Be Blessesd Be Safe.
If the reviews continue to be positive when they start to ship, I will definitely be ordering one of these. I do wonder how difficult it would be to make up a generic face pad in case your mates want to have a go?
They would also need the same IPD, or its going to look off. I've heard it's interchangeable enough to let someone else give it a try, even with the custom face pad, though.
super excited the sweet spot size has gotten bigger, that was actualy one of my main concerns about the headset after I preordered.
how is the fov compared to the pimax crystal?
Would love a stand alone version of this just for movies
What worries me about the custom fit face gasket is, it's meant to fit your face at a given time. Tomorrow, my face may swell/shrink because of any kind of reasons (disease, depression, etc.) and it won't be a perfect fit anymore.
If VR headsets actually made face cushions similarly to the gel pads used for hearing protection muffs (peltor for example), you could strap it hard against your face and it still wouldn't feel like it's pressing too hard, because gel pads are that good.
this is cool this is the Future and VR needs to go this Direction
Thanks for the update. Still a bit dear for me but price may drop when they start shipping serious quantities. Not sure what you mean by the glare, is there any way you can show the effect in a video?
Glare is where white letters on a black background (or similar) bleed into that background. It's like the white part has an aura. It's by far the worst part of VR movie viewing.
@@eeeeyuke Got it thanks.
Love small form factor but small FOV is holding me back. So sticking to my pimax until FOV gets ALOT bigger
With the Aero price drop, I think I’d go for the extra clarity. Actually am tempted to buy one now
Is it better quality/ higher resolution than this one then? (I'm new to the higher-end of the market so just trying to catch up)
@@soots-stayingoutofthespotl5495 I think a different set of compromises so it depends what you want. FWIW I went for a Quest 3 in the end!
Another great video! Good news about the bigger sweet spot.
Thankyou 😊
Submitted my face scan earlier this week. Cannot wait to get my hands on it :)
Thank you very much for that review🎉
Excellent as always my friend.
Take care. See you @20.09.
Thanks for watching mate as always, I will, indeed, see you on the 20th 👀😁
I just received my Bigscreen VR and haven't yet set it up. Are the overlays you have part of DCS?
with a headset that small the thing I'm worried about is the FOV and stereoscopic overlap. How is it? With a modded Reverb I can sit in a theater and the stereo overlap covers the entire theater screen.
Stereoscopic overlap is identical to valve index. Fov is around 98 v by 102 h, bigger than quest 3.
I'm very interested in how watching movies in Bigscreen is like. I want something close to what the new Apple Vision Pro looks like it can do. Can you lay down with it? Or rest your head on a recliner? Great review so far!
That's why I could not choose from any current top headsets. There is always some little thing which makes them imperfect.
Very same for me, not sure what to get after the Q2 now (and a previous Pimax 5K+ )
@@MrCrrispy I'm still with my Rift, resolution is shit, godrays mura and eveyrithin is there but at least it has oled. 😂 And built in headphones are great imho, of course I have no other reference... 🤷
Does it correct for prescription glasses!
How do the visuals compare to the Pimax crystal?
Would i need a 4090 gpu to get the best out of this headset .Or would my 3090 be ok thanks.
Depends on what you want to play .
If you want to play boneworks or half-life Alyx than the 3090 is enough . If you want to play no man sky , modded Skyrim or fly and racing sims I suggest a 4090
But I really don't advise getting this hmd since Somnium vr1 will be released very soon with much much bigger fov than this hmd
@@x32i77 Thank you.
Strongly considering one, given buying an aero back in August my rear end hurts. Which runtime does the beyond use?
Is it possible to use an ND filter to reduce glare ?
my first vr was the Oculus Rift, and I loved it but it was too pixelated and felt like i was looking through swimming goggles, and it was very heavy especially when playing on war thunder. This is almost twice as better in every aspect, all these years on. I will definitely order these!
The cost is wild for just the headset, makes me wonder if I could get it to replace my original HTC Vive with the original base stations and controllers.
What about the "Screen Door Effect"?
To me you look like layne stayley with that headset on😎 thank you for the video. Peace✌
I don't see it ...
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@@acratone8300 I can see it.
I wish the standalone headsets were this size and just had all the processing and battery in a little puck that you can strap to your belt or clipped onto a haptic vest or whatever. I want as much weight off of my head as possible. I'll happily wear a discman on my hip if I can have a headset this light.
I have the Index and i do not see any glare when i am in a game. I perfectly see the glare in steam vr home\lobby and when i look at some light text\pictures on a dark background.
Anyway, do you see any screendoor effect in the Beyond?
So which one the BG or the $990.00 Areo Vajro?
Nice vid... Was wondering about your moving map. Which add-on are you using?
Considering this costs £500 less than the Crystal, meaning you can get the BSB, base stations and controllers for the same price, the Crystal screen would need to be dramatically better imo for the BSB not to be better. It looks so much more comfortable, and I'm sure the controllers and tracking would be much better than the Crystal.
If I had base stations and controllers I'd be really tempted to order this...
I’d order it in a second if it didn’t require the investment in the base station and controllers. As far as I’m concerned that requirement kills this product.
Crystal has more tech inside of it.. SO really the Crystal is cheap in comparison to the Beyond. Crystal has eye tracking and standalone.
@@Killswitch1411 I doubt there is a single Crystal user who wouldn't rather the XR2 wasn't taken out of the headset so it could be smaller, lighter and not have to run on batteries. Nobody is going to use the Crystal as a standalone headset.
The eye tracking is nice of course.
@@kevinbrook7033That's not the point.. We all wanted that, but guess what it didn't happen. So staying on topic you pay more for more tech...The Beyond is bare bones, panels and lenses and a plastic casing.. Yet it still cost 1000 without controllers and Base stations.
@@Killswitch1411 apart from the eye tracking it's extra tech that nobody wants.
If the Crystal had no XR2 Soc, no battery, no controllers and could therefore be lighter, smaller and cost $1000 like the BSB it would be a much better and more desirable headset.
How is paying an extra $600 over the BSB for some crappy controllers with mediocre tracking plus an obselete XR2 Gen 1 Soc that cannot possibly power 2880 x 2800 per eye resolution displays in standalone good value?
They should have sold it headset only like the BSB and let it just run on base stations and Index controllers.
You're paying $600 for useless crap that just makes the headset worse.
Is the lower FOV an issue or not noticeable?
The question I have , is the glare better than the Index?
If its anywhere near the Index level then it is frankly useless. I can't even use my Index. The glare just ruins the entire image.
great direction for this stuff to go, I see they have corrective lenses as well. Maybe I will finally try VR
Wondering if you could knock the glare down by running at , say, 90% brightness ? Cheers !
Just like any headset, yeah, you could
I know that thrill seeker and sadly it's bradly preferred it at a lower brightness for these sorts of reasons.
@@MassDefibrillator Thrill runs his at 150% LOL
@@RidgeXR_2 oh, thought it was the other way around.
Is it possible to have 2 people wear this headset flying same plane locally?
Pilot & another person both wearing this headset & can look around cockpit interchangeably?
No. Not possible with games or your standard gaming computer.
I ordered one, waiting for it....cant wait
2560² per eye seems a bit low, as does 75 Hz and I've heard the FoV is on the low-end of things.
If they can improve those and add eye tracking (I think foveated rendering is going to be essential for VR in the future), I'd definitely be getting one!
The hp reverb g2 has been the best purchase I've made got it at release and its still going strong.....still can't max out racing or flight sims with a 4070ti so no point in considering an upgrade.
I'm not going backwards though. the vr i have had for 5+ years now has been 90hz. and tbh higher would be better, you can still see the individual frames depending on what game you are playing.
so whilst this headset is great, it needs to be slightly cheaper, include controllers and inside out tracking, and at least 90hz. then i am very interested. as it is its not for me.
And not require a stupid iPhone to purchase
Isnt it 90hz website says it is
@@ronaldkasteel3459 I thought it was 72 or 80, but I have not been following this lately so it's possible (but unlikely) that's changed.
@@socks2441 ah oké lets hope it will be 90
They mentioned that 75hz in refresh rate with micro OLED is a lot faster than 90hz with LCD. That being said, 75hz is when you use the biggest resolution available. Otherwise, you could use the smaller resolution at 90hz. Although it has some compression, according to them, with the upscaling, it will be virtually as good as if you had no compression at all.
Man, it really is such a sexy looking headset and I really think that counts... for alot. We're trying to get mainstream adoption and nobody tackled this problem till now. I suspect that's something Apple didn't consider enough but we'll see. Well done to Bigscreen. Its such a shame it has the glare issue though. This and the unfortunate reality of the price holds me back. The price is fair. It's just too much for me realizing how little I'd use it. I know when I do decide to buy another VR headset though that I won't settle for anything but this type of form factor.
Off topic, but I too cannot stop flying the FlyingIron spitfire 😛
Thanks for the video. Does BSB get your IPD from the face scan?
They do indeed!
@@VRFlightSimGuy Hmm this and now the Aero is 50% off. Got me thinking. []~}
Hello Steve,
And if after a while we observe we need some prescription lenses, does we need to redo a face scan ?
Best
I have a pre-order and I am getting lens inserts from Bigscreen that are very thin and cost $79.00 USD no need for new face scan.
whether you need a prescription, that doesn't alter your facial structure nor your IPD. I could use my prescription lenses or contacts as I prefer. So no, you will be able to supply your prescription to Bigscreen and purchase the lenses separately.
@@heavygeevr thanks for your answer
@@sparkerinvr526 thanks for your reply
For sim racing or flight simulation do you need base stations or controllers?
you need separately purchased base stations for the head tracking. pretty sure you don't need controllers though.
@@jimmy8x541 first timer here, what kind of base stations is out there? Which one should I buy?
@@jedfeng748 ...don't they come with the headset?
As someone still using my Index, is it a good thing I haven't been spoiled by a no-glare display?
What headset has no glare?
May I ask you this ? Bigcsreen beyond with micro oled , so I noticed cheap headsets like Quest 2 Quest 3 using LCD . LCD caused SDE = mosquito net, so how about Micro Oled in bigscreen beyond ? zero mosquito net ?
Zero SDE
@@VRFlightSimGuy Thank, love it 😄
It's not the LCD that causes SDE. My OEM Vive and Vive Pro have OLED and AMOLED and they both have SDE too. It's the size of the pixels that matters.
@@replacesoundboard Thanks for info
Coming from a G2 and 8KX, do you think I would notice the glare?
How is gauge clarity?!
I have still the htc vive and love to fly at night/sunset/morning - a new HMD have to have OLED ...thats the reason i didnt went with the Index or other HMD with led
Man I have paid so much for the Quest 3 and all the accessories. If it was for me alone, I would have went straight to PCVR only. But my father and brother both have Quest headsets (my brother has no PC) and I wanna play with them.
Many drawbacks to the Q3 with the Display and such, but I'll enjoy it anyway.
Thanks Steve!!! :)
No worries!
Thanks for the review!
My pleasure!
Damn, I want one but none of my friends and family use iPhones, all androids. Is there a way to emulate an app for iOS on an android? Or are they planning to make the app available on Android?
Cool, Whats the cable like? does it pull a bit more because the headset is light?
Thanks for the video, how do these compare to the high end VARJO ??
To bother about these comparisons . Simply make a preorder reservation for the Somnium vr1 at the end of this month .
Trying to decide on this or the quest 3.
Very very different headsets.
@@VRFlightSimGuy Very different. However, the Beyond might be worth it for me if Im only using it for something like Virtual Desktop and Bigscreen for flat games which is primarily what Id do with the Quest 3. So Im wondering how much of a difference there is between the displays.
Does the distant dot spotting improve in this unit in IL2?
Damn they seemed convinced they could fix the glare and that is a killer for me. I literally can NOT use my Index because of glare.
Where did you read they were convinced they could fix the glare?
Now that the Aero is also under $1000, I gotta wonder which is the one to buy?
That is a GOOD question
this is exactly what i was looking for as a simulator guy. Are prescription lenses available
Yes, although you need to buy them from Bigscreen 👍
So this one is the upgrade path coming from the Hp Reverb G2 sunning on an AMD gpu this will support also?
It works with both AMD and Nvidia.
Gamebreaker for me is no inside out tracking. So Im waiting on pico 5 pro next year which will also get eyetracking.
Is there no way to scan with Android?
Please comment specifically in relation to brightness, contrast and colour when compared with the G2
I really like the small size of the unit...very impressed.
However for me theres simply not enough decent VR titles to warrent spending a thousand quid on VR.
I would be interesting to see how it performs on a more common and average PC build also.
You don't need a hundred good titles, just at least one or two that you really enjoy. For me, simply the existence of Into the Radius is enough for me to want to upgrade from (plugging my quest into pcvr) to this.
quality over quantity my freind
@@vracan yeah I get that but i cant even say there's the Quality.
Most titles are just kiddy stuff.
When you can play red dead 2, Modern Warfare, Battlfield, the new upcoming GTA 6, etc and it works natively then yeah.
Elite dangerous was pretty good in VR though!!.
it's true there aren't that many good PC VR games, but to me the key is using tools like VorpX or Reshade Depth3D filter to convert and play many of the most popular games & MMO's with the biggest budgets, some games I'm playing right now in 3D VR:
Elden Ring
Baldur's Gate 3
Star Trek Resurgence
Scarlet Nexus
Marvels Guardians of the Galaxy
Journey
Eternights
Something many reviewers forget is how taxing on hardware is the hmd. Not everyone has a top of the line rig. Good video though man I never knew about this hmd.
What flight simulator is this where you can fly a Spitfire?
Steve, have you tested the audio strap they have available? What about a mic?
Uisng the Mic for this video, as you can hear it sounds amazing. I'll hopefully test the audio strap next month.
Yea the Mic sounds great . Plus , … from a vr streaming perspective I think it looks more natural to have less of the face hidden. Ps another great video 👍
@@charzy11 Thankyou :)
Maybe I would consider after developing cataracts dealt with but 65 inch TV will do for now eh 😊
Can you set it to 60 Hz to watch entertainment vidz smoothly?
no 60hz mode, only 75hz and 90hz
Please test it with MSFS and report back! And, how is it to temporarily lift up to use a keyboard or pad of paper? Can it comfortably rest on your forehead like a pair of ski goggles?
Can certainly do this easily, but you might wind up getting schmutz on the lenses, depending on your hair and the geometry of your facial cushion.
I'm really interested in getting one of these headsets, but the problem I have with it is the need for an iPhone for the face scan - neither I nor anyone I know has a suitable iPhone.
You can go into a shop and use one that's displayed there
They have to reverse their policy on this absurd requirement. Need to have an option to ship with generic face-cushion.
Been thinking between this and the Aero. I think I'm leaning towards this one.
I have an Aero and my BSB will be here in two weeks or so. I'm pretty sure my Aero will collect dust after my BSB arrives.
Im thinking too my friend Aero vs Pimax vs Beyond 😀 Jesus hard choise...
@@Adamitar Not a hard one for me. In a couple weeks I'll have a more well informed opinion, but I'm thinking that the Beyond will be what I prefer by a margin.
Don't order either of them . Just be patient and order the VR1 🙂
It will be soo much better that any of those hmds
@@x32i77 The VR1 is like an Aero or Crystal. In fact it uses the same displays as the Crystal. It's comfort is still unknown, but it is a mini LED aspheric lens headset. It's only real claim to fame is the modularity.
The Beyond is something apart from those three headsets and is in a category of its own.
So if you are looking at an Aero wait for the future of the Aero announcement on the 20th. If you are looking at a Crystal, wait to see how the VR1 looks since it should have more FOV.
But if you have had a large bulky headset and want to improve the overall experience and immersion of VR, look at the Bigscreen Beyond.
Hi! What’s up? Let me say that I’ve been looking for a VR where I could find the best FOV and the Pimax is the the VR I have. I do like the FOV because your range view is more like the normal view you can have if you are using a helmet when you’re flying. But, the headset is not confort!!! My quest to you is it to much different the FOV in between the two? Cheers for your attention. (Sorry the english is not my native language)
So you buy it. then find a apple user scan your face? how long of a process do you have after you buy it to wait for your new face placement will be ready? and how bad does this affect if you want a family member or friend to use it? im guessing the lack of hand controllers for hand /motion tracking? I really want to update my VR to get AR this time if it wasn't for the quest 3 being 1/2 the price of this with AR and VR capability's. makes this price point to fall apart.
The process of order, scan, production will be one of weeks, right now they are still fulfilling preorders. For family members, see @Reavo's comments above - in short, it depends on their IPD vs yours, but it's never gonna be better for them vs you. Doesn't come with controllers or base stations, there is no cameras so no hand tracking.
@@heavygeevr sounds like its really fitted for movie viewing mainly. Its missing to many features that will be coming on a $500 VR I understand paying extra for small size but missing out on hand tracking, and controllers along with AR and depth sensor for 2x the price. I prob value AR ability's to much. I have had my rift for long time. I really been wanting to play with AR.
It's a fit for PC VR in general right now. Does sound like a deliberate AR device is where your desire lies, indeed.@@st0mper121
Thanks for a gread video! Much appreciate the info!
Glad it was helpful! :)
Do they still require you to take a picture of your face with a iPhone and send it to the company before they send you the product?
That's a deal breaker
Wow! It looks amazing! Well, at least from what you're telling us, anyway. LOL Very glad you were able to be their tester. I'll have to look into this one, literally, as well as figuratively. ;)