THIS SYNTH IS INSPIRING // Moog Subharmonicon Review & Sound Demos
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Here's my review of the Moog Subharmonicon. It is a unique semi-modular synthesizer with 6 oscillator design and polyrhythmic sequencer. Sponsored by DistroKid. Use my link to get a 7% discount and support the channel: distrokid.com/vip/bobeats - a great way to get your music to Spotify/Apple Music and more stores.
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00:00 Intro
01:50 Oscillators
09:03 Filter
11:42 Sequencer
16:45 Patch points
18:55 My opinion
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I know I am quite randomly asking but do anyone know of a good website to stream newly released movies online?
You have made the most musical demo of this synth. Most others took a different approach. From the perspective of a synth player, this is the first modular/semi modular synth with promise to actually be playable with all of the modular bells and whistles! Thanks
This was super useful. Thanks for taking the time to explain all these wonderful features. :)
Thanks, Bo! Very happy Moog finally released this. I have wanted one since seeing the original Moogfest builds. Need to save up!
4:16 Well, Nick Batt is going to love it.
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BoBeats, Andrew Huang, and Loopop all in my Inbox a few hours after Moog Audio Canada emails a surprise "it's here!" email? Hmmm!
Glorious way of doing things, right? We get the official announcement from Moog, ability to preorder, and tons of incredible review videos all at the same time!
hainbach, sweetwater, prefect cirtut, vintage king, look mum no computer, sonicstate, myrlanmelodies and much more for videos like ,,DEMO no tasking,,
Don't forget - mylarmelodies as well :-)
I've watched 12 Subharmonicon videos so far in the last 24 hours. Thanks for the vid Bo, but a bit much there eh Moog? Covid stuck-at-home technique maybe? As sexy as the third member of the semi-mod 60HP Moog fam is, I've yet to hear it rip and rumble...yet. Maybe I'm expecting too much in err umm...24 hours... haha.
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Time stamps:
Oscillators 01:50
Filter 09:03
Sequencer 11:42
Patchbay 16:45
Opinions 18:55
there where allready so many other videos about the subharmonicon...... is there nothing else
Terrific demo! Thank you! (:
Love your reviews! yeah this is definitely on my short list!
Great demo. This thing looks so sweet.
IMO an important thing to consider with semi-modular synths is "would I wanna buy individual parts of this synth as standalone modules to add to a full rack". I want to buy the sequencer and oscillators from this as standalone modules. This is a good semi-modular synth
Really appreciated showing how you built up the sequences. One of the better Subharmonicon videos on UA-cam!
Props to Moog for doing something creative with this product. Same goes for the DFAM.
Love your jam at the end! I think this is a synth that will allow for some really creative uses.
Dear Bo, i just wanted to thank you for being such an inspiration. It is thanks to your videos i've gotten myself a Digitakt and started experimenting with electronic music after many years of being a listener. Huge support from Warsaw and as always, stay awesome. :-)
Also #bringbackthehair
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Thanks for the thoughtful review!
Great video as always! Don't think we didn't notice that Erica Synths Bassline off to the side. I would love your take on it!
Great review. Nice synth.
I love this, very unique
thanks Bo for another great video - definitely inspiring stuff... and an instrument should be PLAYED - I've always found inspiration in the machines I play - each part of this synth can and should be played - not just controlled but played. It's the human interaction with the instrument that brings to life the machine, the electricity, the performer and the listener!
Thanks Bo. Mine should arrive on Friday!
What a cool sequencer!
This is the best subharmonicon review on UA-cam.
Great review (as always) - what a cool instrument! I didn't get how the "rhythm" knobs 1,2, etc. function. It sounded like they are tempo dividers/multipliers for the sequencers?
Thanks this helped convince me to buy it.
@11:19 - My favorite polyrhythm sound I've heard on this thing so far.
Most musical and practical of all of the SubH reviews... nice!
Some reviewers seemed really perplexed by this machine.
Seems like the Keystep Pro came out at the right time.
I must agree :)
I think that it wants to be one happy family with his mummy and his brother. If you hook it up to a keystep, it`s gonna be sad and dissapointed in you :)
New subscriber from Arizona. Great channel Mr. Bo.👍
Tonally this sounds extremely close to the Volca Keys. Really very interesting sequencing possibilities... Excellent introduction.There were 3 examples you generated that sound like they want and would deserve full song structure. Nice.
I’m in the market for my first analogue synth. Everyone says start with the mother but I kind of want to start with this! I feel like this is more immediately usable and inspiring.
One question. Would I be able to use my OG Novation circuit as a drum machine paired to the subharmonicon?
is it possible to use subharmonicon to quantize frequency of external oscillators like mother32 for exemple?
Great presentation! Can you please share you light setup and camera setup? You looks great in this light!
Was hunting down a 0-Coast, but after this review I am rushing to get this. The experimentation of this box seems absolutely endless.
@Edward Godsall very different kinds of machines, do completely different things
The best demo of this device on YT
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Hey Bo, I've sadly sold my Moog Sub37 today and thinking to complete my DFAM and Mother set up with this. Have you experienced playing with all 3? My guess is that this will give me that inspiration that I feel I couldn't get in a set up with a sub37 and a Mother32. Keen to hear your thoughts. I also had an eye on the Novation Peak for a v long time and doing a weigh up. I have a Minilogue XD, Hydra, Digitone so not sure whether I go towards a Peak or go for Subharmonicon. I think the uniqueness is important but I do love how the Peak sounds :S BIG thanks!
headphones match so well with the moog wood cheeks ;) nice musical expamples Bo', now i want the 3 tier stand with a dfam and a m32
What are your drum gates from the KSP running to for drums? Looks familiar but can’t place it.
do you need a specific type of midi keyboard in order to play it?
Great review. Very informative and inspiring. Revenue share distrokid info was an eye opener for me 👏🏼🤔
20:31 thanks for the tip on lack of gain compensation with increasing resonance. you've given me lots of ideas. thank you ❤️🧘🏼♀️😃🌈
Wow all my synth people got their hands on this one apparently 👍🔥
Still a bit of a noob so apologies if this is a dumb question, but at 18:33, is that chord on the Keystep overriding the pots on the Subharmonicon? I’m assuming that each note played is assigned to the sequencer in the order it’s played?
Would the Medusa from polyend be an alternative? Though I would chose the Subharmonicon.
Out of interest what was providing the drums, was it the black noir I could see in the rack?
Hi Bo,
thanks for another great vid. Do you have any tips about how to sync a SubH to a DAW? I am using a USB-2-Midi-Cable from Ableton to SubH. But the sequencer is absolutely unreliable and becomes out of sync. I adjust the latency parameters in Ableton and all is good for a while. But with the next start / stop in the DAW, the thing is hell out of sync again. Makes me mad :-) Thank you!
Good and clear presentation ! (it’s usual on this channel ;-)
What’s the bassline synth next to it
Would you recommend the opz or this? completely different devices but in your opinion what would you go with
Great review Bo! Are there any similar synths available that you know of? Similar in sound I mean
Yeah, so Sub 37 and Sub 25 have a similar tone for sure. Grandmother perhaps? Not same at all in terms of functionality but you get this sort of beefy tone. Without the additional sub osc ofc.
Hey Bo. Great tutorial! Is there any way for saving parameters?
not exactly... but you do get a couple of overlays that you can use to note parameters to make your own "presets"
BoBeats thanks for coming back to me man. I guessed this might be the case.
Hmmm, nice! and coupled with the Make Noise 0-CTRL I can see some fun to be had :-)
where you getting the kicks from?
Hey, Nice review (subbed). Quick question; would you recommend this thing as a 'first synth' for someone to get into (semi-)modular (albeit a bit pricey)? I've been playing around with software (particularly REAKTOR) to produce some more electronic stuff and make some of my own patches, but I kind of miss the 'jamming' capability in the software (just turning the knobs). I used to be a professional session bassplayer, so the polyrythms and subharmonics seem super interesting to try some stuff with. It seems very unique and right up my alley. It seems pretty versatile as well.
this is not a good beginner synth. Mother 32 is much better for a beginner. Or a Minibrute 2. Minilogue XD is my best pick tho for someone startng out
@@BoBeats Cool, thanks a lot!! I'll check them out.
You are the first person to make this sound good.
Nice article. What are the alternatives to this, does the deepmind 12d compete well, or are there other choices ?
Deepmind is very very different
@@BoBeats Oh, I haven't fully evaluated yet, I am just weighing up options. I own 2 neutrons, a keystep, a crave and a model D at the minute, so just looking to add some polyphonics to the mix and i'm done .. for now lol.
I am sold :)
Sounds like Neo disconnecting from the matrix :) amazing
Good review thanks! Where do the drums come from?
Blck Noir drum module
Tack
Thanks, Bo! I like it more than the Mother-32 as well.
Now here’s a nice synth that’s stood the test of time
is that orange thing a USB MIDI port or your audio out cable? seeing plenty of C/Vs…but no DINs
You get a din midi adapter that goes into the patchbay. I show it in the patchbay section
Good review Bo, thanks for that. Do you think it would work well toghether with the Subsequent 37CV? (i already own that one). I would like some more Moog sound sources playing at the same time in my tracks.
The answer to your questions a capital YES.
@@regend762 Hehe thanks :) Lets go feed that GAS.
I really need everyone to stop posting videos about it like FINE OKAY ILL BUY IT jeez you don’t gotta pull my leg this hard 😂😂
Nice video Bo, nice synth. You could of course use your dbx 286s channel strip and compress that resonance volume dip. Just a shame that all the synthfluencers post their opinions on the Subharmonicon the day that Behringer announce their MonoPoly clone, which is what has really got me excited.
Where are the drums coming from in this demo?
Blck Noir drum module
Very nice in the last third or so. The polyrythms, couldn't similar results be achieved with say a Keystep and an sq-1? The 6 oscillators and subharmonics are pretty cool.
There's something so sexy about modular synthesis , I'm very interested in getting into the scene.
Beautiful sounds. Well done Bo. Lovely machine. 1000 USD in Australia so thats not happening for me. If they ever sort their pricing out looks like a lot of fun to be had.
Yepp, pricey. One can hope it goes down a bit. Swe prices is pretty nutty. Like 900 euro :-/
"Only" 700 in Germany
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Nice ;-)
Definitely liked this review and your honest thoughts. That sequencer is pretty interesting and seems quite versatile. I was considering the Make Noise 0-CTRL ($400) for its analog sequencing option allowing you to affect pitch, strength and time (on note) AND ability to play patterns in reverse. Although the Moog doesn’t have that feature, it does appear I can pair the 0-CTRL with it at a later time if it’s that important…unless there’s a workaround/feature undiscovered on the Subharminicon that allows you to do it. For now, I can handle the four (?) step sequencing because of the two sequencers it has which is pretty cool. I’m new to this but I just placed my order for the Subharmonicon. Cheers to success and to your continued following. Your videos are usually high quality and the effort you put into creating them shows through. Did you have a review of the 0-CTRL already? Have you considered a review teaming it with the Subharmonicon? That would be a video worth learning from! Stay safe and take care!
Thank you! No video on the 0-coast. I wish I had one. Also a fun tip for the subharmonicon: if you have a sequencer with CV out you can put CV to pitch input to transpose the entire sequence! That can be useful to create longer sequences
@@BoBeats Thank you for responding so quickly! Can I fold the CV out back into to the pitch do that or….can I affect that same length (or longer) sequence by using say a Moog DFAM? While I think the $400 for the 0-CTRL is a bit pricey for me, are there other free standing analog sequencers you could recommend that can accomplish this? I am learning more about the CV world and it seems pretty powerful! Would a Keystep allow you to create 32, 64, or longer sequences using the CV? I literally just finished watching their video for the lowest priced version and it seems like it can do a lot. I love keyboards, but I’m ok having a good controller that has MIDI, pitch, and CV outs! I can do synth desktop modules all day and just use a MIDI breakout box and call it a day! In fact, I’m selling my OB-6 keyboard and so I can replace it with the desktop module one day. A strong controller can go far and NOT become obsolete so quickly as a MIDI ONLY controller can in MY usage. You’ve got a lot of knowledge so thank you for sharing whatever you can!
Hi Bo, some folks say it’s hard to put Subharmonicon into a song and quite disappointed about it, but I think it’s a rhythm generator power house for electronic music like techno. What do you think for producing wise with this new beast?
I dont find it difficult at all tbh, but I use it as an idea generator for riffs and melodic sequences.
cool instrument. i bet it would work really well with digitakt.
I’ve been watching all the Subharmonicon porn I can find before pulling the trigger- and this is in.the top three tutorial/demos. I shall be returning to this for hints and tips...
Seems very musical.
My only complaint with the Subharmonicon, which i probably will still get it, is that it doesn't have separate output paths or stereo paths. Imagine how cool it would be if you could hardpan the oscillators into the left-right, or get a spread going where they have even stereo distribution? Major problem with Moog. It's absurd that the Subsequent 37 for example doesn't have stereo outs. I know you can get around it, but it shouldn't increase the cost too much to include a stereo path
Couldnt you just take osc 1 and two out via patchbay and pan them? Ofc you’d have to process them individually but with eurorack you could do it fairly easily.
@@BoBeats I actually don't have any other eurorack, I have an Analog Four MKII and Hydrasynth though which allow me to send CV though. Was considering this as the first semi-modular in my setup. I tend to shy away from Eurorack because I prefer having presets and a more standard synth mod matrix, but this Moog is too cool to pass up. I had a Mother-32 for a little while and I loved the sound but just found it too basic with only 1 oscillator. So this is great because it sounds similar to the Mother, but is much more interesting and I want to include polyrhythmic elements in my music
Man.. I literally don't even have a job
recently fired rogue cop? xD wwg1wga lol yea moog is far beyond affordability... can you believe they gave one of these to Look Mum no computer? imagine what he will do to it, poor synthi ^^
Moog is desirable. I think I'll stick with Korg and sq1. It would be good for minilogue3 to accept the A/B of sq1 when it comes along
Even Gaz is reviewing this thing.
I wish Moog could give me one to get inspired with
It's beautiful. The part that bothers me about making music with polyrhythms is how do you control it? I have the NI Kontakt Moon Kit drum kit and it has a polyrhythm program built in. It sounds great, but I can't figure out how to make use of it with other instruments. If I can edit the piano roll and put in my polyrhythms I can at least see something that makes sense & that I can control. But having trouble with it for hardware or software that will "do it for you" because then they've taken out your ability to change it, or maybe I'm hallucinating the problem.
I love the weird machines and effects so this Subharmonicon is definitely up my alley...albeit it certainly is steeply priced...it must be my arch-enemy, inflation, creeping in.
shitmandood it’s easiest to work with polyrhythms live rather than working with them in a DAW, also helps if everything else is running in a 4 to the floor rhythm. That way the polyrhythm is adding surprise/interest/spice rather than getting in the way of establishing a clear rhythm. In some respects that lack of controlability is kind of the point I think - it encourages you to embrace snap decisions and surprise (also why they’re better for live jamming than for working in a DAW
It sounds cool, if I wasn’t completely satisfied with my Elektron gear and Manakin Schrittmacher with Waldorf synths I’d be into it. 4 step sequencer comment is not knit picking, 4 steps is lame 😒--
I think it sounds very video game, very Deadmau5, sometimes that’s the same
It's not REALLY a 4-step sequencer though it's 2 that can be clock divided poly-rhytmically which makes the permutations much more complex if you take advantage of that. Also uh, if you have Elektron devices you have NO limitation with sequencer stuff you can just MIDI control it.
Nah, it's not a nice synth Bo. Better send it over to me so I can dispose of it for you
Aaaaah ofc! You are right! Better just trash it, wouldnt want to expose a dear friend to this synth!!
Send it to me instead; I can properly destroy it. I've got a regulation 60hp-sized trash bin all ready for it in my Pittsburgh case.
@@BoBeats I think it's the only synth you'll ever need. Send your other synths to me so I can put them in the proper disposal areas ;)
Mick Benjamins 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🤣😂
I might need 2 to go with my 2 DFams
@7:59 gold
I love it, it sounds like adult swim at 2:00am in 2006
hi, wath is the little black gear in the right side of the moog?
Erica Bassline!
Wait..... wait... modulated subharmonics??? This might actually take B a while to clone!!
Hi Bo, another annoying thing about this synth is the lack of consistency when you find a nice setting and you switch it off and on again as it's not going to sound the same!!!! if you find a nice rhythm my recommendation is to record it or try to make the whole tune with it because it's not certain that you will hear it again. I guess this is good and bad because it makes you just go for it and keep the tune as it is, I'm loving this synth big time
i agree you have to record what you are doing with it, absolutely!
The ad before the video was telling me to read the bible, as if I wasn't already watching BoBeats...
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Wow, great demo! 👏🎶Tycho is my favorite band/musician, and your sound is right there in that genre. I'm not a musician but am interested in dabbling a bit, I saw one of these for sale in my area and was curious about it (Moog is hot stuff). I'll likely stick to laptop things, but this gives me more of an idea of what all those little buttons and knobs do. Synth Voodoo Magic. 😁
Sounds cool but cant see myself making music with it.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought I need those BMW knobs
Bo, you know where to send this after it gets Bo-ring? right? RIGHT? lol
Ofc!!
@@BoBeats great! I am a drummer and know polyrhythms, it should be right where it belongs here lol
Did Moog send every UA-camr one of these?
I think so... I got mine, and also a DFAM. If you have a UA-cam channel and didn't get one, reach out to them. They're a very nice company to work with.
Economy tanked at the wrong time...maybe get one next year. Hope synth manufacturers can survive, not looking good.
I entered a perfect circuit giveaway for the subharmonicon, dfam, and a 2 tier rack kit. I hope I win
And at $399 it’s a real steal!
Try $700
Midi?
Yes. Via 1/8" jack on front. Comes with an adapter
quantized drum-machine coitus interruptus