The new Moog Subharmonicon
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2020
- In which I give an overview of the new Moog Subharmonicon, put it into the historical context of the Rhythmicon and Trautonium and show advanced patching ideas based on historical and modern practice.
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@@realPhotoMocha I shouldnt worry - it actually costs more to order from Patch Point. They have chosen a really expensive shipping method and tax is added on, so the quote I got was €40.80. Cheaper to order from the US! (Though of course it may get hung up in customs and have extra tax added there).
Just to clarify eventual sour grapes. I love to support Hainbachs artistry, but I would rather have the option of a cheaper shipping method in Europe and not pay an equal amount of money to the shipping company. It's not like there is any guarantee of better quality than standard shipping!!
I did order from Patch Point and Hainbach was so kind and did refund the Bandcamp oder with higher shipping costs.
A great video and it was a pleasure making music with you on this!
Same here my friend!
moog : "here, i made a synth with a sequencer and beautiful sounding oscillators"
hainbach : "i like the sound of the sequencers"
moog : "the what ?"
shout out to harsh noise! most reviewers are like “oh sorry about that weird noise” and i’m like... *sigh* that was the best part of the whole video
Awesome how you expanded loopop's review with more artistic stuff, while loopop covered more technical things.
I highly recommend watching both reviews, they compliment each other quite a lot.
Also my two favorite music youtubers collaborate! Can't be happier about this.
That was the intent, glad it translated! For that reason I was probably also super relaxed when I recorded the talkie parts, good to have a launch buddy.
@@Hainbach this is actually why I follow you.. loopops practical, in depth overview of gear is invaluable, but your approach to music and creativity in general is more in line with my own and can be more telling of weather somethibg would fit my uses it if I'm GASing for the sake of shiny knobs.
Thanks to the complimentary nature of both your channels I've either saved money, or put it to the right things - it's the perfect pairing!
They also compl-e-ment wach other very well ;)
Searched UA-cam to see a subharmonicon review, thinking to myself "this sounds like something hainbach will lose his shit over." Stars aligned.
i love how moog keeps pushing the envelope for idiosyncratic and unique synths, especially over the past few years. its great how they're showing that atypical, weird synths can be musically useful and commercially viable.
I love that every review I've seen so far has such vastly different sounds/is so creatively different. Goes to show how much inspiration to your own sound this machine has.
8:54 the piano hits and I lost my mind. This is so beautiful. Thank you.
What a great video with your knowledge of the historical context! Wonderful ambient mix with your piano!
Really enjoyed this - you really showed the beauty of this machine. I also loved how much of the history you brought in...
Forget the synth this video is beautiful! The colours are very nice and the decors of your studio is awesome
Especially the second camera looks pretty
Thank you! That was an experiment, glad it turned out nice!
@@Hainbach the blues and oranges compliment eachother nicely
So Absorbing. And loving all the connections with other UA-cam musos - the best of the adventurers in the online muso ecosystem. Nga mihi nui - many thanks. (Also the first time I've felt excited by a synth in many a year - this actually feels like a living breathing instrument)
The SH is delightfully unpredictable. "tuning" the VCOs with the two Subs (on each side) is like audible moire patters, chaos for quite a bit but then coming into focus into an interesting pattern. Then start the sequencer(s) and it can go crazy!
As soon as I heard that beautiful chaos at 14:35 I was in love! 😍
You’ll probably love Érica synths db01
The piano bit was so gorgeous. Really great video.
You are just the right person to demo this synth. I've never been so inspired.
This is a really good presentation. Thank you for all your time and effort on this subject!
Vielen Dank HAINBACH! Sie insperieren mich schon seit erstem Video, ich möchte mich bei Ihnen bedanken für Ihre Arbeit. NOCH MAL, VIELEN DANK !
Das freut mich sehr!
This Channel is one of the reasons why I bought one.... great show of this instrument.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and music. Beautiful as always! I would be very interested in learning more details on using a resonant filter as a drum synth. Cheers!
Thank you Hainbach, I love the subharmonicon put into a historical context.
It is now my 4th Moog and I didn't regret one of them. The Subharmonicon is so much fun!
HAINBACH, thank you for the informative video. I have purchased my own Subharmonicon to go along with my DFAM and (2) Mother 32's. I am looking forward to receiving it.
Im just about to get all three. Any tips since you've had it?
Hainbach you are a legend! Love these videos.
So much amazing historical context and the demo sounds are stunning
11:50 ❤️🧘🏼♀️😃🌈
very happy to have found your channel too
Welcome!
Thanks! This is the deep workout that this interesting synth needs
That was Pansonic all the way there near the end. That formant frequency cheat sheet is greatly appreciated as well!
Pan Sonic forever, I truly love what they did.
RIP Mika
I am in love with this newest Subharmonicon
At long last, Moog too is returning to.the roots of electronic music, on a par with famed instruments of the 30s-50s. Imho, the most interesting of their 3 Eurorack bros (mother32, dfam and subH) by its sound and tuning/sequencing possibilities 🤗
Love the cross mod and the collab, great video
The best Subharmonicon demo. Making use of the REs-4 wich I also have, make me decide to buy this Moog instrument ! Best.
Love the subharmonicon to pair with my dfam! Synthesis like no other 😎
Awesome demo/review
"Almost forgotten"????? The Trautonium, at least, has certainly not ever been forgotten in this house!!!
I know I'm supposed to be listening to the Subharmonicon on this video.... but I just love the piano in the ambient passages..... lovely!
In my videos, i hope you listen to the music as such, so you are doing it right! 😀
Terug na een weekje trautorium linkjes volgen. Leuke excursie zo. Danke Schoen
Wow they shipped these out to the full circuit of synth youtubers, well done moog, everyone has done something different with it. desperately want one if only i had £800 spare
Thank You Bob Eats , another educational video.
Sounds amazing! Price points are high for such things though, not as high as they used to be. Hardware surely helps to commit to a sound and move forward. Damn, it sounds good.
Looking forward to the album delivery! I now have two records needing signing! ;)
Fantastic review 😎👍
I'm so buying your vinyl!
Thank you for sharing
I like you more every video you make!! Great lighting too!
Thank you! I enjoy moving lights around now.
Love it! Thanks again
This is absolutely next level Subharmonicon. I wasn’t ready for it, when I saw it for the first time and even now I don’t understand everything, what Hainbach does. Really terrific! Btw, all the VCA and VCF stuff can be controlled via MIDI, so perhaps it also can be controlled with a CV to MIDI converter? I don’t have such a thing, so I cannot figure out myself…
You really outdid yourself on this one. It felt like a damn documentary! I watched all the reference links but still need to watch loopop's. The novelty of this device is amazing, but that price is pretty trying in these uncertain times.
Thank you! Originally I wanted to travel to Deutsches Museum again, then visit trautoniks and also Deutsches Instrumentenmuseum. Sadly that did not work out, so I at least shared my research. Price is high, maybe it will come down.
So soothing!
I just got a Subharmonicon, and just watched your very interesting video. I'm thinking I could use one of the clocks to drive the sequencer on another synth. Interesting experiments ahead.
It's definitely tricky to make it fit with just about anything else. I have one and it's proving to be an enigmatic unit.
Yer new LP cover reminds me of that scene in Monty Python’s “Meaning of Life” (“Oh, look, they’re eating George”). Bravo. Love your YT page....
Really curious whether you could bypass the ladder filter to get the formant sounds you were using with the band pass filter at 10:45 great vid btw. Shows other capabilities of this instrument
Do you think that you’ll ever do a video on the Alexander pedals you own? I have a Syntax Error and F. 13 that I use for weird glitchy and tapey soundscapes and I would love to know how you incorporate them into your sets.
The trautonium is probably the greatest sounding instrument ever. Probably just side by side to the Ondes Martenot. The performances from sala are often so moving, that bring me to tears.
Great video :D
Damn Stefan, I come back after exam season and suddenly you’re broadcasting from an mad-science-lair... I love it! (and am totally not jealous >_>)
Thanks for this cool video. is it possible to use subharmonicon to quantize frequency of external oscillators like mother32 for exemple?
Awesome I love this sound!!!!!!!!!
So interested in this thing.
Hey Hainbach! Big fan of your channel and music. I especially liked your album impulsgenerator. I was wondering what inspired you when it came to that sound. I like the minimalist style. Is there any piece of equipment you could recommend to start creating that genre? Any info would be appreciated, thanks again!
Here is a video: ua-cam.com/video/MfH53a9xAjo/v-deo.html
Thanks for this inspiring video! I own a subharmonicon and experiment a lot with it. There is only one behaviour that is frustrating me. When I play it midi with a beatstep pro or other devices, if the sequencer of subharmonicon runs, at the end of each note the pitch returns always to C3. I find this not normal and I don't know if it is normal or a fault of my unit.
Making me regret selling mine! Lovely sounds as always.
That's just so warm and tilted and like my last comment, this should be enjoyed in dense woods and in a tunnel on gondola
I viewed a lot subharmonicon reviews and I have to say that Haibach patched the most interesting and beautiful sounds with that gear. That’s one of many reasons why I‘m supporting him as a Patreon...
Hi Hainbach. Very informative no bullshit vid. Nice! A little off-topic question, what do you think of the Vermona Synthesizer? Thanks a lot!
I know the classics and the Perfourmer - all are cool. Vintage ones are raw and kind of “cheap” but cool in sound, Performer is just nice
@@Hainbach Thanks for the reply! I'm actually referring to the old GDR 1982 Vermona Synthesizer. The semi-psychedelic 70's look one. I guess raw & ''cheap'' might apply to this one indeed :)
it seems like with each video your studio looks more and more like a space station
Thank you! I always wanted to be a space pirate when I grew up. With the time I have at hand due to not touring I can make my studio come alive in that way.
so LMNC, Hainbach, and Huang all put up a video about this within 10 minutes... Why do I have a feeling I'm being marketed to? lol. Always good to have new vids from all 3.
Oh there are many many many more.
Bro it happens with every new synth lol it’s not a secret, some of the ads are just less cringy
Because you are being marketed to
Most likely that today was the embargo date, Moog telling people to hold off till today.
Yeah, exactly that. They told no one how many there would be though, so that was a surprise.
This is really an inspiring video, thanks! Can you share the settings you used at 14:55 to get drum sounds?
Oh that is mostly the filter cutoff low and resonance high, with filter modulation.
perfect video. thx !
Hey Hainbach, Hoping you can answer a question for me about the drumatix, I just picked one up and I'm realizing that it does sync with the rest of my gear. Do you know a way I can fix this?
Solved my problem(not for to cheap but solved regardless) purchased the RK006. And with a little patience for it to arrive all will be well. Another question I have for you though is what power supply do you use with your 606? I need to pick one up for mine. Thanks.
Moin , hast Du gut gemacht . Kann man den eigentlich auch mit anderen Synth verbinden ? Zum Beispiel mit einem " VIRUS TI " ? Wäre ja ganz gut . Oder ist das nur was fürs Rack ? Klingt ja gut was man damit machen kann .
Honestly, when doesn’t Moog sound amazing??
Slowscape When the cashier tells you the price tag! Lol!
totalbrainfail haha so true. 😆
@@totalbrainfail1812 Doesn't look like this is going to be very expensive!
@@jazzjeffjazzjeff 849 euros as of now priced in amsterdam, it depends how big your wallet is to think that it's not very expensive...www.midiamsterdam.nl/moog-subharmonicon.html I wish I had your kind of wallet...:(
When Behringer rips off their designs 😬 sorry can't help myself...
While it is true that Sala used a 'harmonizer' with his Trautonium [sorry, I got that wrong the 1st time!] in his later years, his frequency shifter was indispensable to the signature sounds he made.
The frequency shifter was custom built for him in 1965. A frequency shifter shifts all of the partials of given sound up or down by the same number of Hz. This results in inharmonic timbres being produced.
This is in sharp contrast to a harmonizer which preserves the harmonic relationship of all of the partials, thus essentially keeping the timbre of the original sound intact. Note that this type of DSP technology was not available at the time that Sala's frequency shifter was built.
In fact, Sala was enamored of the inharmonic sound transformation that he could get when using his frequency shifter; it was as important to his work as the bandpass filters were for shaping the particular timbres that he desired.
Here is a link that describes it:
ua-cam.com/video/9YjM8IZmYTE/v-deo.html
It helps to do proper research before grandstanding like this 😄. Watch this video where Oscar Sala himself demonstrates his use of harmonisers: ua-cam.com/video/zsBBBmKFl8M/v-deo.htmlsi=JaO5EOdZVIJgHCPh
@@Hainbach sorry for missing that fact and thanks very much for the link! ☺
It does seem like the next logical step in his compositional process.
Do you know if he did any performances with the HD1000? If so, could you please post a link or two? Thanks!
do advisable VST or App exist, that work similarly like this subharmonicon?
I saw Sala in the early 1990s present his work in London. What a magical night that was. He played his music off a cassette to us there :-)
Robin Rimbaud-Scanner He was on stage playing a cassette to the audience?
@@WurstPeterl He was a very elderly man at the time and was presenting his work to a room of about 50 people. He wanted to play examples of his music so brought a cassette tape with him which was really sweet in a way. He kept moving the microphone from his mouth too so we could not always hear him either! It was so magical though. I still have the programme for this night in my archive, truly unforgettable!
Robin Rimbaud-Scanner That sounds wonderful. Thanks for sharing this little memory!
Ah somewhat less stressed for having watched that. Seem to find that with your videos, that section with the piano was beautiful.
That bit was particularly nice.
I was so relaxed when recording this, I calmed myself down during editing.
What were you using to get those lovely, lilting trails on the piano sounds around ~ 12:00?
That was an Eventide H3000, a dream a machine I could only justify to buy this year.
@@Hainbach Oof. Just gorgeous. Have you found it to be...finicky? A friend of mine just got an H949 back in January and it's already been through 2 rounds of repairs.
Hello Hainbach - What have you got the Subharmonicon plugged into for effects/after effects(?) - Thanks.
man that blooper is beautiful. 11:52, is that the blooper again being used in delay mode? thanks. Also, 9:18, love the birds!
14:33 reminds me of Devo, the track U Got Me Bugged!
Well people say do not get the sub harmonic on as a first synth.
I already know the fundamentals of synthesis and I do not want to waste money on a primer synth only to go for the best later.
I have the chance of buying a sub harmonic on nearly half the new price and I just love what it can do.
After watching your video I can really get the drift how it works.
I do not understand the patch cabling bay but can learn that later.
I thing some amazing music can be made with this synth on its own.
I fancy doing some ambient stuff on it and playing gentle chords to it on my Roland Juno DS.
It will be a learning kerb but at least I will have a good synth.
It is one of three few new synths I kept, definitely an inspiring instrument
Can someone help me identify the mode/progression at 8:40? I'm losing it over those chords
I understand that Moog at least considered releasing the Spectravox, which has bandpass filters. Whether they go ahead with it or not, I have no idea.
Beautiful! Does anyone know of a vst equivalent of the sequencer/chord generator based on harmonics or maybe a Max for Live device?
Not a standalone unit but you could get someone to put something like that together in VCV Rack quite easily.
@@Darwinist Thanks! I'll look into that
Nice video as always, Hainbach! I have a question how can you supply the lack of midi? Greetings from Wedding
MIDI is something I don’t use that much, but I think this thing has a bunch?
@@Hainbach mmm I see, I'm asking because I would like to pair it with the ndlr by conductive labs....
What’s producing the drums at 5:54? Is it the D-1000, the 606 or the subharmonicon? Any processing?
M2301 pretty sure this is the 606 here. in a previous video he showed each rhythm machine saturating the pre’s in the board.
It is Metasonix D1000 on bd and chrz, 606 on SN and hihat run through a PAR CR4a bandpass/preamp. Have a look at this video: ua-cam.com/video/8ZM4AmUdeYY/v-deo.html
Hello! this could be a stupid question, but can you couple a digital synth with a analog synth via midi? I'd like to couple DFAM with my Nord Lead 4. Thank you
Of course you can
Doepfer have (had?) several modules that in combination create a complete Trautonium voice.
Does the Midi input accept midi clock?
Eine Moog Schranz Maschiene! Nice
Instead of a fixed filter bank, or a bank of parametrics, it’d be interesting if this was the carrier half of a vocoder with one’s own voice providing the exciter half. This would take care of a lot of formant seeking and tweaking - you just speak them in.
I have the feeling that after watching this i'll need to come up with some money.
I'm new to the synth world and I keep having this question about how I would hear the sound. Do I need headphones? Do I need a speaker? If I just bought the Moog itself would it not be able to be Heard? I just want to casually create in my room by myself no intention to record yet just listen and experiment. Thanks for all responses
You need headphones or an amplifier and speakers. Powered speakers, aka studio monitors, are popular.
From now on, I'm gonna quote Hainbach on: Schranz is never far away with cross modulation 13:46
Der ist gut , sagte ich ja schon . Aber schade das er keine Anzeige für das Tempo hat . Also das er mir anzeigt mit wieviel BPM der Seq gerade läuft . Man kann zwar die Geschwindigkeit am Rad einstellen nützt mir aber nichts . Denn wie stelle ich da zum Beispiel 128,6 BPM ein ?
I noticed you have VCA patched out. The first Blade Runner sounding patch at the start of the video. Question: Are you using the VCA patch as a dry signal and then using the main output to add delay and reverb?
I only used VCA out to mixer.
@@Hainbach Oh, ok. BIG FAN. Thank you for the reply. I really enjoyed all your patches. All of them were so versatile. I would love to learn more about the two other patches you explored, specifically the pinging of sequences with each other and the cross modulating the oscillators.
yip..... assertion is a fantastic album!!!
.."Harsh noise is a good thing"..instant respect
13:25 I'm getting some early techno vibes.
sweet when the wishlist grows... good round check out
My wishlist grew by a Volkstrautonium, but that is far out of my pricerange for a decade.
@@Hainbach this is cool too ua-cam.com/video/4hWIbje5tu4/v-deo.html
can be that they plan to launch the spectravox and you can use it as band pass filters? nice vid as always
I thought they released that as the vocoder?
@@Hainbach is another one just builted in those workshops, like the previous subharmonicon, not released yet, but asking if it could be the kind of filter you describe or similar posibilities
Are there any other synths as competitors atm?
No, this is unique.