@@D5quared91 lol just bc you arent married doesnt automatically make you a virgin. In reality he probably gets laid more than all you old farts that are married.
Great in depth and thorough review brother… currently have the Zpap92 with chrome lined barrel and honestly very happy with the quality, reliability and performance 🇺🇸
Man how beautiful or the Zastava m70s they really don’t get the love they should to me they are the highest quality import AK platform … the finish on them is just so beautiful and slick. You want it to shoot as smooth as a milled receiver just add a pound and a half of weight to it haha. Heavy guns shoot better I’ve been looking into building a gun on a krebs receiver pretty much same price as a arsenal can build a amazing AK platform.
As a whole...zpaps are good. Local ffl has one at 850 and you cannot CANNOT beat that right now. If I didn't have the exact one I bought for 300 more I would but it but I probably should..
I got a 2020 manufacture dated WASR and love it. Swapped out the crap furniture for the Magpul Zukhov and Strike Ind. grip. With all that still under $1K not counting my scope.
Great video! I was so excited to see this pop up this morning. According to Robski, the springs in the new ZPAP are stiffer and the M70 smoked the 5000 round test with no issues to the receiver and set the "Sand tornado" record. Again, I really respect and appreciate your content. Great job!
@@ritotron5752they don’t dimple or use the proper rivets. AKM for casuals. Really sad honestly. Mine sheared rivets after 517 rounds. Quality is hit and miss. The wasr 10 is superior to any PSA ak
I bought an M92 last year and recently picked up a Zastava ZPAP M70 with Turkish Tiger walnut stock. Absolutely the nicest, prettiest, best built AK I've ever seen. I've owned a Norinko MAK-90 and also have a PSA GF3 in the cabinet. 😎👌
Worked at M+M 5 years inspecting Cugir 4150 chrome lined barrels, thousands of them and dropped pin gauges down hundreds. Never saw even one that varied more than .003. Amazing quality for chrome lined bores. Saw some old M10-762s from ranges 8 years old w countless rounds fired and gas block port solid carbon. The -19 ser#s are even better. Metallurgy is superb. My bet is on the new M10-762 from Cugir for barrel life.
Misha, thank you for the time and effort you put into these videos. You and a couple other channels led me to buying my first M70, and I'm over the moon with it.
My favorite recent ak purchase was my Arsenal slr107ur. My local gun store had them on sale for $1400. Not sure why they are having such a hard time selling them. They’ve been at this guys shop since the lock downs. I’ve watched vskas and local parts kit builds sell like hot cakes for a couple hundred bucks cheaper. In my opinion the Arsenal is worth the extra couple hundred bucks.
@@greenbudzzz Pretty far😂 Plus it was a one day sale. I waited in line for 4 hours. He was selling a ton of stuff below cost. It was hundred degrees that day. It was worth it.
Glad you touched on good quality magazines. I tend to gravitate to the surplus Polish, Yugo, and Romanian mags but I've also had good luck with the newer steel Bulgarian magazines with the polymer followers that you can get for like $16-$18.
I am very happy with the wbp fox. I have handled a few aks but like the aesthetic of my classic. It is a very nice shooting rifle ak or otherwise. My ptr in 7.62x39 is also a very nice rifle to shoot. HK variety, definitely not an ak but very enjoyable and accurate. I very much appreciated the video and am looking forward to the 5.56 ak. Currently I am out of expendable income, my daughter needs 5k worth of orthodontist work. Playing with weapons is lots of fun, but sometimes life just splashes all over ya! Grateful for what I have and also for what I don't have. Thanks again for all your help and knowledge.
Completely understand and agree; family is more important than guns...unless you don't like your family I suppose? heh. I've sold much in the past to get bills paid off or fund more important things.
Zastava is best overall in my opinion. You get a lot for the money. Mine was perfect out of the box. I am biased,. I own 7 Zastava guns and I don't have any of the other guns shown in this video. The only bad thing is they are heavy AK's. I am disabled and that is an issue if I have to carry them far.
I wish I had your sentiment on zastava! I recently was very excited to purchase a zpap92 alpha with sba3 brace and the screws from dust cover rail dug into bolt carrier easy fix with file but the failures to feed/short stroking constantly "it picks round up but doesnt go into battery" is just damn disheartening. Twice the bolt caught my mag it seemed anyway. I have psa,arsenal and never had 1 failure. I put a alg recoil spring in zpap but havent had time to see if it makes a difference, what could cause such things? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you
My first A/K Variant purchase was the ZPAP / M-70 and in just 3 months put just under a 1000 rds.through it so far without a single issue ! I did install a adjustable gas system as it was over gased and I was slinging steel cases 20' onto other shooters at the outdoor range and most of them already dislike A/K's anyway , but 30 casings raining down on them was just to much , now it's down to 5' and I haven't had a single failure to feed after I dialed it in , really happy after adding the side mount and optics !
Misha knows his ak's. For a first ak after watching this video, the newer wbp jack will be my first ak. On paper it's solid, radom barrel, laminated furniture, and mishaco stamp of approval was enough for me to buy with confidence. I've avoided buying in the past because I just didn't know enough. Thanks man I appreciate your work. Excellent ak guru hahah
Okay, I’ll go ahead and say it, nice job. Very organized presentation! I own them all but not for any of the reasons stated. It’s all about availability. Buy them when you can. Luckily, I bought a safe full of Arsenals back when the prices were reasonable. The only exception was the new SAM7SF-94E. Had to have one 😁
Once you put KNS piston and Arsenal milled recoil spring assembly in the Fox, it smooths out and shoots just like a milled gun w/ less overall weight and perfect balance. Believe it!
I'd replace the bolt carrier with a phosphate finished lightning cut style along with a ribbed top cover to make it more like the original military Polish PKM AKM pattern.
I've really wanted a WBP in the red wood but man, why are they so much more $ than the zpap. I've always been a value guy, so unless I find a steal on a WBP, a Zastava will probably end up in my safe in the future 1st. Great vid guys, as always thanks.
I just took delivery of my first Wasr and I'm quite pleased with it. It's a new 21 production paratrooper side folder model. I have 4 different magazines, US Palm, Serbian Scout, South Korean Kci, and a Bulgarian. Only the Bulgarian has any wobble and it is minor. The rest are very tight. The whole gun is very tight with uniform finish. The wood looks bland unfortunately and will go. I've never owned an AK, but I have owned a Russian Sks since 94 or 95 that was straight out of the Cosmoline. Both of my friends bought Aks back in the 2000s after deployments. 1 bought a Wasr and the other may have been a wasr or another Eastetn Bloc manufacture, but both guns looked and felt like used surplus guns. This newer production is quite an improvement.
Thing is, some of us like the surplus look. Has a been-there, done-that feeling. Of course back then for what they cost, it was more of a feature and not a detraction. I don't think I'd be so pleased to pay nearly $1k for such a look either.
Just watched a bunch of your videos 📹 thanks for the wealth of knowledge 👍 😉 I'm getting a Zastava ...as an AR guy.. this is a big step for me, thank you! 😊
Great Video! I still rocking my Romanian SAR-1 from 20 years ago that cost me $399. She is accurate but I have done some extensive tinkering. Threaded muzzle(thanks CNC warrior for the tools) and installed a SRVV titanium jet brake, straightened gas block and rear leaf sight, installed Rak-1 trigger group and Magpul furniture, and new pin and spring to hold muzzle devices in place. She runs
Ive got some expensive AKs but my WASR is my favorite. Its a smooth shooting accurate rifle. Ive heard some negative comments about them on youtube but I dont think those people have ever really shot one. Good video Misha...that Polish AK with wood stock is a beauty! Thanks & Happy New year.
I'd swap out the RH10 with the Wasr: Cugir Made, Same parts as the Gen 2 but with FSGB (Front Sight+Gas Block)Combo and is very well made, also comes with a Rak 1 Trigger and has ran flawlessly ever since I've bought mine, about 1000 rounds so and no issues or notable wear other than traditional heat marks.
One of the things I've never been able to get a straight answer on about the rear trunnions is whether it's milled from a piece of billet stock & heat treated or if it's cast. From all the ones I've looked at they appear to be milled from billet rather than just straight up cast. Which being milled from a block of billet steel is still not quite as strong as forged, but it's a way lot stronger than cast.
Definitely some of the best AKs on today’s market I’m Glad 4 of my AKs 3 of them are on your video ✅😀the other Ak is a HIBRYD AR /AK variant dope video 🤙🏽
My dad recently pass on oct 6 these guns was our passion. He left me a factory maddi ARM and my brother a TGI factory FEG Hungarian amd65. I own a opap converted by two rivers back to a m70b1 a zpap 85 with cnc warrior brace. A m90np. A sds lynx 12 and a PSA 103. I miss my russian saiga iz132 and iz114 and polish akm
Per Atlantic Firearms, the WBP with Polish laminate furniture has the original Polish FCG not a US made FCG. There are no US markings on mine. I highly recommend the Fox. AOA has indicated they will be importing Jack models soon. Model WBP Fox Classic AK47 Rifle All new quality parts FB Radom Hammer Forged Chrome Lined 16 inch Barrel Forged Polish Barrel Trunnion Bolt carrier is fully machined from hammer forged steel Polish Import markings on Receiver Collectible Matching Numbers / on many parts Polish Eagle marking on rear sight block Bayonet Lug Threaded barrel 14mm x 1 left hand Beautiful Black finish AK Side Rail for Optic Mounts Beryl Type Rear Trunnion for use with FB Radom Beryl rail system Polish Laminated Stock set Original Polish Fire Control groups 35 1/4 Inches in Length Weight 7.1 pounds empty
Hence why i said FCGs can vary and be swapped out. So judging one on that is a bit pointless. Different variants come with different units. Just look at the Beryls. 7.62x39 has the OEM FCG, while the 5.56 has a US made group.
@@misha5670 You forgot to mention that Atlantic Firearms and AOA also include the original FCG when they ship the 5.56 version so the new owner can swap it out if desired. I was not commenting regarding judging one of the rifles on which FCG group is included. I was correcting your misinformation. Per Shawn at AF the WBP Fox Classic with Polish laminate furniture does come with the original Polish FCG. You have mentioned in at least two videos regarding the Gen 2 Foxes that they come with US FCG. This is incorrect and to a lot of us it is important information.
I'd really like to get that new PSA Ra-47 Russian Parts kit with FN barrel. They just announced it yesterday I believe. Hopefully they made more then 10 Rifles
I’m hoping they aren’t too expensive as Russian parts kits alone can be 1000 or more. Psa needs to get back i their lane price wise. I love psa but the akv shouldn’t be the price of the kp9 and their aks shouldn’t really be over a grand there are way to many import options around there their whole successful part was that they had good prices
I bought a saiga with the rear conversion many years ago for $350. Man did i get lucky!. People always ask me when am i going to do the front conversion. Im not. I happen to like the longer handguard. And this gun goes to my son when im gone.
Another excellent, information-packed video! Thank you, Misha! I do have to mention that I'm a little disappointed you ignored the Arsenal stamped receiver AK in your comparison. It would have been very interesting to know where you would have rated Arsenal's stamped receiver rifles in this AK lineup.
I didn't include themm because in 2021, they are basically not available as new firearms. That said, we have done several comparisons in the past: SLR107R vs WASR vs Beryl vs PAP....etc. Short answer is? i don't think much of the 107R.
My first AK was a ZPAP. I love it. My second AK was an Arsenal SLR107R. I hated it. I put that on the market and bought an M70 UF Parts kit and have also gotten a Yugo M59/66. I guess I'm just doing a Yugo collection and the M98 and Tok are next on my list.
I have a 59/66, M57, 88 & 70 plus two Yugo mausers and two Zastava AK's....all great "oldies but goodies"...and still affordable to buy and shoot...caution: collecting/shooting Yugo/Zastava guns and Millsurp ammo is addictive.
great buyers guide, wish I watched this before getting a VSKA :[ Don't feel bad though, I sold it back to the gun store and purchased a wasr v2 and just picked up a sam7sf84e and love the smooth action.
Wbp fox probably the best fit and finish wise on the market these days IMO ive not heared any bad things about them either..but still got to love the Wasr, she aint pretty but she will make you happy...my 2nd was a wasr my 1st was a Mak90
Very very very helpful video. Was gonna get a Meridian Defense, roughly 1900 dollar one, as my first AK. Couldn’t drop that coin during the scamdemic, and wait 50 weeks. Placed an order for a PSA GF5 magpul folder in black, AKOU tried several different models, but did some more research and discovered the QC issues and the light primer strikes. Didn’t wanna be on the phone for hours and play UPS tag w my first AK. So I canceled. Don’t like proprietary furniture of the Zastava, so that’s out. Want standard stuff. Don’t want century, don’t VSKA, don’t want cheap AK, don’t mind spending a little extra. Don’t really need milled w proprietary furniture so it looks like the WSP Fox AK might fit the bill
My only AK47 is the Arsenal Sam-7r 61 which I replaced the black poly furniture with Comblock wood. Had several Saiga sportster which I converted all of them to the original configuration of course to 922R compliance by replacing parts to US made parts.
@@weduhpeople8504 wanted Combloc Customs, unfortunately the owner of the company passed away and they are no longer in business. I did go with the Arsenal plum furniture.
I just need the M762 and I’ll have all five. I hesitated on the last shipment since their markings were white (yours are black and therefore it was from the first shipment), and I prefer the black as that’s more military-esque. Another thing about the WASR V.2 is the goofy shaped gas block. It’s not a standard 45 degree AKM design.
I have an Ak that there are pretty much no videos of, and i've never really heard it mentioned to many places, but i bought from an elderly man, who was selling his entire collection, he bought it brand new in the early 2000's, it's a SSR-85C-2, He told me it is, or will be worth something someday, and he had only shot 1 mag through her, in the near 20 years he owned it. The rifle uses the Complete barrel assembly, Cold hammer forged and Chrome lined, the sights, bolt, carrier, dust cover, and trigger group as the Bulgarian Military Type 3 AK47, they were originally designed and produced by Arsenal U.S.A / Armory U.S.A, and Made in Bulgaria by ISD LTD, and marketed in Europe by them. It has a 1.6mm receiver, after the company A U.S.A went out of buisness, TGI/ Tennessee Guns them, and marked their models (TGI) ..No mine is not one of the later models know as TGI, I think ISD builds Arsenal Bulgarias stuff since 2012, any way its in perfect condition, i've put 200 rounds through her now and OOWWEE she is so sweet! but i dont think there is many like her out there?
The SSR885c is a Bulgarian AK Type III parts kit build done in Bulgaria by ISD. The difference is that instead of using a milled receiver, they used a 1.5mm stamped receiver, which was made with tooling purchased with help from Arsenal-USA in Texas.
@@misha5670 Cool, I don't think there is many like her, and she is in perfect condition, and shoots so good, Thank you for the response, and have a great weekend sir.
My stock z92 pistol had the stock Shepard hook get out of line and let the trigger pin walk half way out before I noticed it. Replaced with a retaining plate because I could feel the Shepard hook had too much leeway movement on the trigger pins, like a soft feeling. The retainer plate made it solid
They are, but I found a nice gem in my small town gun store, I found an SA93 for 800 bucks in its original unconverted state and in impeccable shape. At least there are still deals out there, couldn't believe I snagged one for less than a WASR these days.
I bought the first offering from WBP/Radom in the Classic form and I just love it. I haven't shot another AKM I would trade it for. My son bought me a Bakelite Mag last week for my birthday...smart kid, He just bought a pre-ban WASR- 10 in August before the Biden ammo ban.😒
Hello Misha! Will you review the new DPMS Anvil AK ? I’ve heard PSA now owns DPMS so it might no be so much of a new product, but I’d love to hear you ramble on pretty much anything, including the DPMS!
@misha I'm really looking looking forward to your 5.56 videos I've gone so far down the rabbit hole with multiple Beryl's, Mini Beryl (early and late), an attempt at a M21 from a mop starter and a kit as well as a milled Arsenal, which isn't my favorite. Thanks for the great content as usual.
You mean the bolt tail??? Don't worry about that. You can file the hammer to a round shape if it makes you feel better, but that thing will deform to a point and stop. It's only purpose is to keep the gun from firing out of battery.
@@Kalashnikingz47 I know what the purpose is. Which is precisely why you do not want excessive peening damage. The root cause is more than the hammer geometry profile. It's also an issue with Rockwell surface hardness differences between the rear of the bolt carrier and typical US made hammers in US made fire control groups.
@@Kalashnikingz47 Actually in worse case examples, the deformation progresses until the point where it causes hang ups and the bolt carrier will need to be replaced. Rob Ski has mentioned this.
@@Enjoyer.762 My bad I misread your comment. It says "Least". I thought it said most. Still I've NEVER seen one deformed to the point that it negatively impacted the function of the weapon. I have a G2 trigger in my FM vepr, I filed down that sharp piece that makes contact with the bolt tail anyway
Same goes for the OEM hammers from WBP and FB.....Really, any factory made part will be fine. Its the USA made stuff that has some potential to ding up the tail a bit. That said, most of the time, its only cosmetic. It takes a lottttt of dinging to mishape it to the point of causing functional issues.
I got a m70 4 months ago and it’s been great! The fit and finish aren’t top tier the rear sight is a tad canted but zeroed and there’s some machining marks on the gas block but it’s a military factory weapon they aren’t goin for looks.
Thing is by not including the Galil here, that just means it is getting its own video soon. I think classing it as its own thing pays more respect to its creators compared with just lumping it in as 'another AK copy'. So no worries, it will get its due here.
The only way you can do left side folder without modifying receiver, and all you have to do is swap butt stocks, is buy a KPYK left side folding butt stock for AKM or get AKM Zenitco PT-5 butt stock that is also left side folding
You did good, but the WBP and FB guns out of Poland are very nicely made and customer satisfaction is extremely high. Where you dropped the ball is with the VSKA. That's a steaming pile of wasted metal.
Thank you for this video! Where can one purchase a synthetic pistol grip like the one on your Zastava, in excellent cosmetic condition? Yours looks like the ones issued to the Yugoslavian armed forces.
My wife hates you for these videos Misha. My wallet hates you. But I love you dude! Keep the videos coming!
AK Jesus loves you
Wife jokes are corny
@@savegeko280 Virgin alert
@@kabardino1337 Jesus is Lord
@@D5quared91 lol just bc you arent married doesnt automatically make you a virgin. In reality he probably gets laid more than all you old farts that are married.
Just ordered the Zastava zpapm70 as my first AK. Was the sweet spot for my needs.
You won't be disappointed. It's a very well built AK variant.
@@colddeadhand7414 Picked up the optics mount promo with the gun Saving some money.
I am so glad I got mine.
How do you like it? Any issues?
@@HawkLad no issues with it about 500 rounds through it. Thinking of replacing stock trigger with an ALG trigger.
I love your knowledge on the AK.
One of a kind person.
Thanks
Great in depth and thorough review brother… currently have the Zpap92 with chrome lined barrel and honestly very happy with the quality, reliability and performance 🇺🇸
Man how beautiful or the Zastava m70s they really don’t get the love they should to me they are the highest quality import AK platform … the finish on them is just so beautiful and slick. You want it to shoot as smooth as a milled receiver just add a pound and a half of weight to it haha. Heavy guns shoot better I’ve been looking into building a gun on a krebs receiver pretty much same price as a arsenal can build a amazing AK platform.
Zpap by far the best value.
Zpaps are meh
Get a nice used Romanian fuck a zpap
@@SuperBikerboy101 zastava is better than Romanian
@@airaddict3749 the fuck it is
As a whole...zpaps are good. Local ffl has one at 850 and you cannot CANNOT beat that right now. If I didn't have the exact one I bought for 300 more I would but it but I probably should..
Great video thank you. Got my M70 a month ago and can’t be happier.
I have my WASR 10 and it's served me well. Alot of folks hate on it, but it works
I got a 2020 manufacture dated WASR and love it. Swapped out the crap furniture for the Magpul Zukhov and Strike Ind. grip. With all that still under $1K not counting my scope.
@@andrettski8686 how much was your butt stock ? Thinking about getting a Wasr 10.
@@letsgetit90 $95 for the stock and $35 for the handguard
Great video! I was so excited to see this pop up this morning. According to Robski, the springs in the new ZPAP are stiffer and the M70 smoked the 5000 round test with no issues to the receiver and set the "Sand tornado" record.
Again, I really respect and appreciate your content. Great job!
I was wondering if the spring issue had been fixed in the new M70. I don't remember Rob mentioning it, but its been so long.
@@dsdahustla Robski said the spring issue was resolved
@@dsdahustla resolved
PSA AK 103 would like word, comrade
@@ritotron5752they don’t dimple or use the proper rivets. AKM for casuals. Really sad honestly. Mine sheared rivets after 517 rounds. Quality is hit and miss. The wasr 10 is superior to any PSA ak
Got a zastava zpapm70 and loved it so much I bought the zpap85 pistol (with pic rail) absolutely love both amazing guns
I bought an M92 last year and recently picked up a Zastava ZPAP M70 with Turkish Tiger walnut stock. Absolutely the nicest, prettiest, best built AK I've ever seen. I've owned a Norinko MAK-90 and also have a PSA GF3 in the cabinet. 😎👌
Worked at M+M 5 years inspecting Cugir 4150 chrome lined barrels, thousands of them and dropped pin gauges down hundreds. Never saw even one that varied more than .003. Amazing quality for chrome lined bores. Saw some old M10-762s from ranges 8 years old w countless rounds fired and gas block port solid carbon. The -19 ser#s are even better. Metallurgy is superb. My bet is on the new M10-762 from Cugir for barrel life.
The FB-Radom mfg barrels are holding up similarly. Like the Cugir, they are CHF +CL and just built with quality steel and solid QC at the factory.
Misha, thank you for the time and effort you put into these videos. You and a couple other channels led me to buying my first M70, and I'm over the moon with it.
thank you, good to hear
I love the sound of the Beryl. It has a unique report with a deeper sound. I love my Mak 90's.
My favorite recent ak purchase was my Arsenal slr107ur. My local gun store had them on sale for $1400. Not sure why they are having such a hard time selling them. They’ve been at this guys shop since the lock downs. I’ve watched vskas and local parts kit builds sell like hot cakes for a couple hundred bucks cheaper. In my opinion the Arsenal is worth the extra couple hundred bucks.
Oh definitely 👍
I have many AKs the best is the Arsenal
How far is your local gunshop from southern Indiana lol
@@greenbudzzz Pretty far😂 Plus it was a one day sale. I waited in line for 4 hours. He was selling a ton of stuff below cost. It was hundred degrees that day. It was worth it.
I haven't seen any 107's available from Arsenal for a very long time. That must have been tucked away for awhile.
Glad you touched on good quality magazines. I tend to gravitate to the surplus Polish, Yugo, and Romanian mags but I've also had good luck with the newer steel Bulgarian magazines with the polymer followers that you can get for like $16-$18.
can u rank best to worst ak mags?
The new production Bulgarian steel reinforced polymer and steel magazines are of excellent quality with solid lockup.
I am very happy with the wbp fox. I have handled a few aks but like the aesthetic of my classic. It is a very nice shooting rifle ak or otherwise. My ptr in 7.62x39 is also a very nice rifle to shoot. HK variety, definitely not an ak but very enjoyable and accurate. I very much appreciated the video and am looking forward to the 5.56 ak. Currently I am out of expendable income, my daughter needs 5k worth of orthodontist work. Playing with weapons is lots of fun, but sometimes life just splashes all over ya! Grateful for what I have and also for what I don't have. Thanks again for all your help and knowledge.
Completely understand and agree; family is more important than guns...unless you don't like your family I suppose? heh. I've sold much in the past to get bills paid off or fund more important things.
Zastava is best overall in my opinion. You get a lot for the money. Mine was perfect out of the box. I am biased,. I own 7 Zastava guns and I don't have any of the other guns shown in this video. The only bad thing is they are heavy AK's. I am disabled and that is an issue if I have to carry them far.
I wish I had your sentiment on zastava! I recently was very excited to purchase a zpap92 alpha with sba3 brace and the screws from dust cover rail dug into bolt carrier easy fix with file but the failures to feed/short stroking constantly "it picks round up but doesnt go into battery" is just damn disheartening. Twice the bolt caught my mag it seemed anyway. I have psa,arsenal and never had 1 failure. I put a alg recoil spring in zpap but havent had time to see if it makes a difference, what could cause such things? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you
My first A/K Variant purchase was the ZPAP / M-70 and in just 3 months put just under a 1000 rds.through it so far without a single issue ! I did install a adjustable gas system as it was over gased and I was slinging steel cases 20' onto other shooters at the outdoor range and most of them already dislike A/K's anyway , but 30 casings raining down on them was just to much , now it's down to 5' and I haven't had a single failure to feed after I dialed it in , really happy after adding the side mount and optics !
@@proudlyamerican2764 Definitely the mag man. Zastava's do not malfunction by themselves.
Misha knows his ak's. For a first ak after watching this video, the newer wbp jack will be my first ak. On paper it's solid, radom barrel, laminated furniture, and mishaco stamp of approval was enough for me to buy with confidence. I've avoided buying in the past because I just didn't know enough. Thanks man I appreciate your work. Excellent ak guru hahah
How is that Jack holding up for you? Mine has continued to run boringly reliably throughout 2022.
The father of import ak's has spoken!
Right, Oscar the cat. He's chilling here right now.
Misha, want to thank you for the high quality videos. My new WBP Jack arrived, I'm very happy with it.
I am glad the WBP name is continuing to be a strong, positive thing in the US market. That company seems to relaly want to deliver a solid product.
Jack all the way, love mine.
Great video. For me it comes down to either the SAM7 or Beryl M762 as being the two best out of the bunch, but they're all great!
@will b yep, always have been pretty high quality cold hammer forged, chrome lined barrels.
Okay, I’ll go ahead and say it, nice job. Very organized presentation! I own them all but not for any of the reasons stated. It’s all about availability. Buy them when you can. Luckily, I bought a safe full of Arsenals back when the prices were reasonable. The only exception was the new SAM7SF-94E. Had to have one 😁
An AK pistol guide for 2021 vid would be cool too. I already know what I like, bit I enjoy your videos.
Once you put KNS piston and Arsenal milled recoil spring assembly in the Fox, it smooths out and shoots just like a milled gun w/ less overall weight and perfect balance. Believe it!
I think I’m going to do this
I'd replace the bolt carrier with a phosphate finished lightning cut style along with a ribbed top cover to make it more like the original military Polish PKM AKM pattern.
I've really wanted a WBP in the red wood but man, why are they so much more $ than the zpap. I've always been a value guy, so unless I find a steal on a WBP, a Zastava will probably end up in my safe in the future 1st. Great vid guys, as always thanks.
I just took delivery of my first Wasr and I'm quite pleased with it. It's a new 21 production paratrooper side folder model. I have 4 different magazines, US Palm, Serbian Scout, South Korean Kci, and a Bulgarian. Only the Bulgarian has any wobble and it is minor. The rest are very tight. The whole gun is very tight with uniform finish. The wood looks bland unfortunately and will go.
I've never owned an AK, but I have owned a Russian Sks since 94 or 95 that was straight out of the Cosmoline. Both of my friends bought Aks back in the 2000s after deployments. 1 bought a Wasr and the other may have been a wasr or another Eastetn Bloc manufacture, but both guns looked and felt like used surplus guns.
This newer production is quite an improvement.
Thing is, some of us like the surplus look. Has a been-there, done-that feeling. Of course back then for what they cost, it was more of a feature and not a detraction. I don't think I'd be so pleased to pay nearly $1k for such a look either.
Just watched a bunch of your videos 📹 thanks for the wealth of knowledge 👍 😉 I'm getting a Zastava ...as an AR guy.. this is a big step for me, thank you! 😊
Riley Defense, after fixing their early trunion problem, makes a pretty solid AK.
Thanks! This makes a great data-point for anyone interested in buying a AK.
Love the AK vids, any subject is great, Much love and respect buddy
Great Video! I still rocking my Romanian SAR-1 from 20 years ago that cost me $399. She is accurate but I have done some extensive tinkering. Threaded muzzle(thanks CNC warrior for the tools) and installed a SRVV titanium jet brake, straightened gas block and rear leaf sight, installed Rak-1 trigger group and Magpul furniture, and new pin and spring to hold muzzle devices in place. She runs
My SAR1 is now 21 years young and still shooting straight & strong.
Ive got some expensive AKs but my WASR is my favorite. Its a smooth shooting accurate rifle. Ive heard some negative comments about them on youtube but I dont think those people have ever really shot one. Good video Misha...that Polish AK with wood stock is a beauty! Thanks & Happy New year.
Yep. WASR10s are fun to shoot. Solid rifle, no question.
Your the true ak guy ,thanks for sharing all that info.
I'd swap out the RH10 with the Wasr: Cugir Made, Same parts as the Gen 2 but with FSGB (Front Sight+Gas Block)Combo and is very well made, also comes with a Rak 1 Trigger and has ran flawlessly ever since I've bought mine, about 1000 rounds so and no issues or notable wear other than traditional heat marks.
One of the things I've never been able to get a straight answer on about the rear trunnions is whether it's milled from a piece of billet stock & heat treated or if it's cast. From all the ones I've looked at they appear to be milled from billet rather than just straight up cast. Which being milled from a block of billet steel is still not quite as strong as forged, but it's a way lot stronger than cast.
I always learn something new when I see your videos .As an AK lover you gave me the knowledge I needed.Thank you .I look forward to learning mode.
The galil is so baller though! That being said im very happy with my sam7 for my traditional ak
Then know we have a pretty thorough video coming up son on the Ace RNL + a bit on the ARM too.
Definitely some of the best AKs on today’s market I’m Glad 4 of my AKs 3 of them are on your video ✅😀the other Ak is a HIBRYD AR /AK variant dope video 🤙🏽
You got me beat by 1
My dad recently pass on oct 6 these guns was our passion. He left me a factory maddi ARM and my brother a TGI factory FEG Hungarian amd65.
I own a opap converted by two rivers back to a m70b1 a zpap 85 with cnc warrior brace. A m90np. A sds lynx 12 and a PSA 103. I miss my russian saiga iz132 and iz114 and polish akm
I completely understand and empathize. Lost mine this year too. Did a little video on my personal channel about 2 of his guns i was gifted afterwards.
@@misha5670 its hard brother. We have to take it day by day. I'll keep you and your family in my prayers.
@@misha5670 what's your other channel name
Sorry for your loss.
That Yugo is beautiful! Watching this before work!
I have my eyes on the WBP, something about that Polish Eagle with the black paint just tickles my fancy
Per Atlantic Firearms, the WBP with Polish laminate furniture has the original Polish FCG not a US made FCG. There are no US markings on mine. I highly recommend the Fox. AOA has indicated they will be importing Jack models soon.
Model WBP Fox Classic AK47 Rifle
All new quality parts
FB Radom Hammer Forged Chrome Lined 16 inch Barrel
Forged Polish Barrel Trunnion
Bolt carrier is fully machined from hammer forged steel
Polish Import markings on Receiver
Collectible Matching Numbers / on many parts
Polish Eagle marking on rear sight block
Bayonet Lug
Threaded barrel 14mm x 1 left hand
Beautiful Black finish
AK Side Rail for Optic Mounts
Beryl Type Rear Trunnion for use with FB Radom Beryl rail system
Polish Laminated Stock set
Original Polish Fire Control groups
35 1/4 Inches in Length
Weight 7.1 pounds empty
Hence why i said FCGs can vary and be swapped out. So judging one on that is a bit pointless. Different variants come with different units. Just look at the Beryls. 7.62x39 has the OEM FCG, while the 5.56 has a US made group.
@@misha5670 You forgot to mention that Atlantic Firearms and AOA also include the original FCG when they ship the 5.56 version so the new owner can swap it out if desired. I was not commenting regarding judging one of the rifles on which FCG group is included. I was correcting your misinformation. Per Shawn at AF the WBP Fox Classic with Polish laminate furniture does come with the original Polish FCG. You have mentioned in at least two videos regarding the Gen 2 Foxes that they come with US FCG. This is incorrect and to a lot of us it is important information.
Love my zpap. My first AK
Great first AK and just good choice in general.
I'd really like to get that new PSA Ra-47
Russian Parts kit with FN barrel.
They just announced it yesterday I believe. Hopefully they made more then 10 Rifles
i wonder where they got their kits tho
@@kalashloy4179
Probably "lost em" in the warehouse.. then "Recently Found em"
LoL who knows.
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I'm more curious how PSAs Russian parts kit Ak compares to Legion USA
Old previous offerings
Don't buy a PSA
I’m hoping they aren’t too expensive as Russian parts kits alone can be 1000 or more. Psa needs to get back i their lane price wise. I love psa but the akv shouldn’t be the price of the kp9 and their aks shouldn’t really be over a grand there are way to many import options around there their whole successful part was that they had good prices
I bought a saiga with the rear conversion many years ago for $350. Man did i get lucky!. People always ask me when am i going to do the front conversion. Im not. I happen to like the longer handguard. And this gun goes to my son when im gone.
Another excellent, information-packed video! Thank you, Misha!
I do have to mention that I'm a little disappointed you ignored the Arsenal stamped receiver AK in your comparison. It would have been very interesting to know where you would have rated Arsenal's stamped receiver rifles in this AK lineup.
I didn't include themm because in 2021, they are basically not available as new firearms. That said, we have done several comparisons in the past: SLR107R vs WASR vs Beryl vs PAP....etc. Short answer is? i don't think much of the 107R.
@@misha5670 Thanks, Misha. I appreciate your reply. 👍🏻
Thanks for posting Misha! Lots of love from Hawaii.
The Steven Hawking of the ak world. Thank you sir.
My first AK was a ZPAP. I love it. My second AK was an Arsenal SLR107R. I hated it. I put that on the market and bought an M70 UF Parts kit and have also gotten a Yugo M59/66. I guess I'm just doing a Yugo collection and the M98 and Tok are next on my list.
The Yugo Tokarev variants are very interesting, especially the M57 and M88.
I have a 59/66, M57, 88 & 70 plus two Yugo mausers and two Zastava AK's....all great "oldies but goodies"...and still affordable to buy and shoot...caution: collecting/shooting Yugo/Zastava guns and Millsurp ammo is addictive.
great buyers guide, wish I watched this before getting a VSKA :[ Don't feel bad though, I sold it back to the gun store and purchased a wasr v2 and just picked up a sam7sf84e and love the smooth action.
Don't feel bad. Sold my vska back and bought a m70 Zpap for several hundred $ more and better quality.
Srpski M70 je najbolji... vrlo pouzdana i kvalitetna puška...
i do not know the others but honestly I can say I like the 70 model very well
Misha just came across your channel. Thanks so much for this content. Much appreciated.
The WBP Fox is the highest quality AKM-pattern rifle ever imported.
Right now AoA is shipping the Fox with the G3 trigger system for like $1100. So much bang for your buck there.
Wbp fox probably the best fit and finish wise on the market these days IMO ive not heared any bad things about them either..but still got to love the Wasr, she aint pretty but she will make you happy...my 2nd was a wasr my 1st was a Mak90
You can paint your wasr with engine enamel and it will look just like the who fox in the video
I see zastavas everywhere and almost got one, but the WBP fox seems like a better choice. Great video
Love the picks I got a yugo m72b1 carbine, and a mini Beryl
Very very very helpful video. Was gonna get a Meridian Defense, roughly 1900 dollar one, as my first AK. Couldn’t drop that coin during the scamdemic, and wait 50 weeks. Placed an order for a PSA GF5 magpul folder in black, AKOU tried several different models, but did some more research and discovered the QC issues and the light primer strikes. Didn’t wanna be on the phone for hours and play UPS tag w my first AK. So I canceled. Don’t like proprietary furniture of the Zastava, so that’s out. Want standard stuff. Don’t want century, don’t VSKA, don’t want cheap AK, don’t mind spending a little extra. Don’t really need milled w proprietary furniture so it looks like the WSP Fox AK might fit the bill
Yeah, we just got a fresh batch of WBP Fox rifles in the store. I've had mine for 4+ years and she's never missed a lick.
@@misha5670 Does your store sell online?
Feeling good that I stayed in the middle of the pack with my last 2 purchases.
Great video, and very informative. Thanks to you, I have made up my mind on my first Ak purchase.
Great program. The Information about the weapons is first class. Keep it up. 👍👍🇺🇸
Mishaco, this video brought some positive to my morning. Thanks
Arsenal for me.
Great Video Man Very Informative .
You my Friend are a Hero
to the AK Community...
Thank you much for watching, cheers
WBP Jack all the way! Quality craftsmanship and reliability at an affordable price point.
That fox is beautiful
My only AK47 is the Arsenal Sam-7r 61 which I replaced the black poly furniture with Comblock wood. Had several Saiga sportster which I converted all of them to the original configuration of course to 922R compliance by replacing parts to US made parts.
Where did you purchase your Sam7 wood furniture from? Ironwood Design is no longer in business due too the death of the owner 😢
@@SlickSlack4pac You just have to find RPK furniture for a milled receiver
@@weduhpeople8504 wanted Combloc Customs, unfortunately the owner of the company passed away and they are no longer in business. I did go with the Arsenal plum furniture.
I just need the M762 and I’ll have all five. I hesitated on the last shipment since their markings were white (yours are black and therefore it was from the first shipment), and I prefer the black as that’s more military-esque.
Another thing about the WASR V.2 is the goofy shaped gas block. It’s not a standard 45 degree AKM design.
Something strange? If you go back and look at my (relatively) recent video covering the original AES-10, you'll see something very similar.
@@misha5670 Interesting! I will have to check that video out!
Variety is the very spice of life. Good video and information
Great content Mishaco
I have an Ak that there are pretty much no videos of, and i've never really heard it mentioned to many places, but i bought from an elderly man, who was selling his entire collection, he bought it brand new in the early 2000's, it's a SSR-85C-2, He told me it is, or will be worth something someday, and he had only shot 1 mag through her, in the near 20 years he owned it. The rifle uses the Complete barrel assembly, Cold hammer forged and Chrome lined, the sights, bolt, carrier, dust cover, and trigger group as the Bulgarian Military Type 3 AK47, they were originally designed and produced by Arsenal U.S.A / Armory U.S.A, and Made in Bulgaria by ISD LTD, and marketed in Europe by them. It has a 1.6mm receiver, after the company A U.S.A went out of buisness, TGI/ Tennessee Guns them, and marked their models (TGI) ..No mine is not one of the later models know as TGI, I think ISD builds Arsenal Bulgarias stuff since 2012, any way its in perfect condition, i've put 200 rounds through her now and OOWWEE she is so sweet! but i dont think there is many like her out there?
The SSR885c is a Bulgarian AK Type III parts kit build done in Bulgaria by ISD. The difference is that instead of using a milled receiver, they used a 1.5mm stamped receiver, which was made with tooling purchased with help from Arsenal-USA in Texas.
@@misha5670 Cool, I don't think there is many like her, and she is in perfect condition, and shoots so good, Thank you for the response, and have a great weekend sir.
I just picked up a M+M M10-762. Romanian. Parts kits was made in 2019. Not a WASR. Runs great.
Given credit & mentioned in the video too.
I just got the M70, have to say I am quite happy with it with the all wood
This is a wonderful video. I have enjoyed it many times. Thank you guys!!! 🇺🇸!
My stock z92 pistol had the stock Shepard hook get out of line and let the trigger pin walk half way out before I noticed it. Replaced with a retaining plate because I could feel the Shepard hook had too much leeway movement on the trigger pins, like a soft feeling. The retainer plate made it solid
The zpap appeared to run a little smoother than the others. What's your take?
I snagged my SAM7R for 1400 in 2019, every one of these are fantastic AK's.
Bought my SAM7 in 2016 for $1245. These prices are insane.
They are, but I found a nice gem in my small town gun store, I found an SA93 for 800 bucks in its original unconverted state and in impeccable shape. At least there are still deals out there, couldn't believe I snagged one for less than a WASR these days.
I got lucky with my wasr 10... It was made after they got the contractor deal, and had better qc... Now we got brandon banning our ammo
what wee need is more ammo makers in usa ! for this lovely rifles
I bought the first offering from WBP/Radom in the Classic form and I just love it. I haven't shot another AKM I would trade it for. My son bought me a Bakelite Mag last week for my birthday...smart kid, He just bought a pre-ban WASR- 10 in August before the Biden ammo ban.😒
I love my m72b1 with the finned barrel gorgeous weapon . Zastava is a strong company I support.
Always been a yugo guy, but the KR-103 is now becoming my favorite.
Wack
Nice. Just got a zpap.
Hello Misha! Will you review the new DPMS Anvil AK ? I’ve heard PSA now owns DPMS so it might no be so much of a new product, but I’d love to hear you ramble on pretty much anything, including the DPMS!
Honestly, probably not. just doesn't interest me, and all the guns & ammo on here? Those things are purchased with money from my own pockets.
@@misha5670 Got it, thanks for the answer!
"Crappy balsa wood furniture." So accurately described..
@misha I'm really looking looking forward to your 5.56 videos I've gone so far down the rabbit hole with multiple Beryl's, Mini Beryl (early and late), an attempt at a M21 from a mop starter and a kit as well as a milled Arsenal, which isn't my favorite. Thanks for the great content as usual.
Wish there was an easy option for a Fox with a standard fixed trunnion and a folding trunnion.
The ZPAP and Arsenal factory hammers are least likely to damage the rear of the bolt carrier.
You mean the bolt tail??? Don't worry about that. You can file the hammer to a round shape if it makes you feel better, but that thing will deform to a point and stop. It's only purpose is to keep the gun from firing out of battery.
@@Kalashnikingz47 I know what the purpose is. Which is precisely why you do not want excessive peening damage. The root cause is more than the hammer geometry profile. It's also an issue with Rockwell surface hardness differences between the rear of the bolt carrier and typical US made hammers in US made fire control groups.
@@Kalashnikingz47 Actually in worse case examples, the deformation progresses until the point where it causes hang ups and the bolt carrier will need to be replaced. Rob Ski has mentioned this.
@@Enjoyer.762 My bad I misread your comment. It says "Least". I thought it said most. Still I've NEVER seen one deformed to the point that it negatively impacted the function of the weapon. I have a G2 trigger in my FM vepr, I filed down that sharp piece that makes contact with the bolt tail anyway
Same goes for the OEM hammers from WBP and FB.....Really, any factory made part will be fine. Its the USA made stuff that has some potential to ding up the tail a bit. That said, most of the time, its only cosmetic. It takes a lottttt of dinging to mishape it to the point of causing functional issues.
Dark walnut zpap m70 on the way 🤗
Do you think zastava has stepped up their game in the last 2 years? It seems like they have been handling criticism with the qc and are doing better.
I got a m70 4 months ago and it’s been great! The fit and finish aren’t top tier the rear sight is a tad canted but zeroed and there’s some machining marks on the gas block but it’s a military factory weapon they aren’t goin for looks.
He's wrong about the but stock on the Z pap. Its different from his O pap.
Please revisit what I said.
I'll take my Galil over anything on the table except the Arsenal.. Good Video Mish
Thing is by not including the Galil here, that just means it is getting its own video soon. I think classing it as its own thing pays more respect to its creators compared with just lumping it in as 'another AK copy'. So no worries, it will get its due here.
I really want the galil rifle but fear I'd have a 12# gun before it even fires a round - rifle, loaded mag, optic, light and sling.
Appreciate you brother
The only way you can do left side folder without modifying receiver, and all you have to do is swap butt stocks, is buy a KPYK left side folding butt stock for AKM or get AKM Zenitco PT-5 butt stock that is also left side folding
I was looking forward to a black box video so I'm going to watch this wearing my welding helmet
So like Luke with his first lightsabre practice? ;p
fox has had some issues with atlantic swapping out pistons for US made ones and overdrilled magwells
The more Kalash the better - I want em all
I'm buying romanian kits now, Bought 10 before they jumped from 287 to 450!
Top 3 imports available right now
Arsenal Sam series
Zastava m70
Wasr 10v2
Honorable mention but not an import, the century arms VSKA
You did good, but the WBP and FB guns out of Poland are very nicely made and customer satisfaction is extremely high. Where you dropped the ball is with the VSKA. That's a steaming pile of wasted metal.
@@misha5670 is this the real misha? My day is made thank you for the reply
@@redskinfan1012 Actually, one of the cats ;p
Thank you for this video! Where can one purchase a synthetic pistol grip like the one on your Zastava, in excellent cosmetic condition? Yours looks like the ones issued to the Yugoslavian armed forces.
You forgot to add the VZ58 😂 - I know it’s not an AK, but I like it better than all my 7.62 AKs!
Yep, not an AK, so...