WHAT IS THE BEST AK ON THE MARKET TODAY?

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  • @Nightwishlishus
    @Nightwishlishus 3 роки тому +49

    Little info about what PAP mean. In Serbian: "Polu Automatska Puska" translated in English: "Semi Autimatic Rifle"

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +9

      Thanks for the translation!

    • @djokicadjokic6375
      @djokicadjokic6375 3 роки тому +8

      @Josh Culick Get serious man. You'r writing bullshit. The first translation is correct!

    • @liberty0758
      @liberty0758 3 роки тому +5

      @Josh Culick it shows you know nothing about these guns, otherwise you wouldn't Google "ZPAP". Moron...

    • @sethchandler1271
      @sethchandler1271 3 роки тому +2

      Tacno bre

    • @lawrencethornbury8081
      @lawrencethornbury8081 7 місяців тому

      PAP is also the designation for the American design.

  • @DaMadDad
    @DaMadDad 3 роки тому +142

    Zastava all the way. Love my lady’s

    • @jbloun911
      @jbloun911 3 роки тому +1

      Shes not a lady

    • @steel2234
      @steel2234 3 роки тому

      @SCN No Ak is the best in US

    • @thevally6127
      @thevally6127 3 роки тому +10

      @SCN for the price, Zastava is better than a Wasr 10, VSKA or a Riley defense.

    • @cbj14
      @cbj14 3 роки тому

      @@thevally6127 where do u think the sam7 falls

    • @thevally6127
      @thevally6127 3 роки тому +4

      @@cbj14 Sam 7 is a really good rifle unfortunately the price is really high now.

  • @tjlovesrachel
    @tjlovesrachel 3 роки тому +28

    That’s how it happens...you never plan on buying anything and then you see your dream

  • @hotshotslayer
    @hotshotslayer 3 роки тому +37

    I purchased the walnut version in July.I absolutely love it!

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +8

      Good choice!

    • @wenku8471
      @wenku8471 3 роки тому +4

      @Josh Culick Me too! Don't forget to give the wood some love with linseed oil.

    • @brl5034
      @brl5034 3 роки тому +2

      @ron stone5 Zastava USA has them on their website. Bit pricey and takes some time and patience, but totally worth it

    • @gamermutt3642
      @gamermutt3642 3 роки тому +2

      how much is it right now?

    • @zataraadventures
      @zataraadventures 3 роки тому

      @@rockordnance what ammo would you recommend for these? steel or brass?

  • @francisco5798
    @francisco5798 Рік тому +4

    Nice vid! Got my beautiful Zastava last month and as a long time ak owner this is the best ak I've had so accurate and smooth as well as durable. Got the m70 npap!

  • @chemoautotroph
    @chemoautotroph 3 роки тому +12

    I’ve wanted a PAP rifle for years, and I just ordered me a ZPAP today. I’ve been watching them for a while and they keep flying off the shelves. I finally found one on GBroker new in the box for $1K and jumped at it. It’s the polymer furniture version, I’d rather wood instead but I’m not going to complain. I’m glad I waited this long to get one because I’m getting the best features this far. Awesome presentation. Thanks for sharing.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +2

      You can get walnut or maple furniture on the zastava site.

  • @christopherbennett4559
    @christopherbennett4559 2 роки тому +7

    Iam a veteran. I have shot all kinds of rifles. The AK is simply beautiful. To me I think God made them. Great video thanks for sharing.

  • @JuiceAlmightyJr
    @JuiceAlmightyJr Рік тому +1

    So much information packed into this one video. Thank you!
    Here we are 2 years later and you were absolutely correct.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  Рік тому +1

      In cases like this, I hate to be right. Thank you for the compliment

  • @markburks6842
    @markburks6842 3 роки тому +38

    I have the ZPAP M70 with Hogue furniture. Amazing rifle.

  • @Arthelas507
    @Arthelas507 3 роки тому +26

    I decided to get on-board with the potential AK import bans and am shopping around. I was deciding between ZPAP M70 and the WBP Box, and after watching your video I am now going to start looking for the ZPAP. Thank you so much for an extremely detailed info video. It really helped me a lot and I'm sure I say that for other folks who are looking to get into the AK import game.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! Now go get yourself the Fox! or better yet perhaps a Polish Beryl!! Keep stacking the imports. Trust me you will thank me a year or two from now.

    • @madride858585
      @madride858585 2 роки тому +1

      Did you get the ZPAP? Hope so.

    • @Arthelas507
      @Arthelas507 2 роки тому +1

      @@madride858585 Indeed I did! I also put on a Lantac Drakon brake and it shoots very sweet! Definitely a gun that I'm keeping forever!

    • @tfaber9394
      @tfaber9394 Рік тому

      Yeah, I'm buying AK's up. It's amazing we can still buy the most deadly assault rifle ever manufactured. Thank you Ar-15 for getting all the attention away from the AK !!! All it will take is one "nut" to thin out the neighborhood with an AK instead of an AR, and yup, the Ak's will be banned first.

  • @mmccarthy9458
    @mmccarthy9458 3 роки тому +11

    The original stock on the ZPAP is meant to double as a back up oar or paddle in Alaska :-)

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +3

      aint that the gods honest truth! Even looks like a canoe paddle and your cheek feels like you were hit with one after a mag or two.

    • @nikola_tomic
      @nikola_tomic 3 роки тому +1

      Kenai edition 😆

  • @spadetrump
    @spadetrump 3 роки тому +7

    I just got one wednesday. my WASR (1st AK) was about 6 moa from 100 yards. shot the Zpap today. Very much improvement! Love it!

    • @lmCIoudz
      @lmCIoudz 2 роки тому

      6 moa from 100 yards lol that is 100% on yourself and the ammo

  • @DixieLiving
    @DixieLiving 3 роки тому +4

    What a wonderful video. Only watched it about 20 times! Zeroing in my OPAP, excuse me, my ZPAP this morning. Looking forward to more videos from you.

  • @brock3426
    @brock3426 3 роки тому +17

    I love the zpap great gun.

  • @gordotortuga8748
    @gordotortuga8748 3 роки тому +2

    Thank-you! I was struggling between walnut and maple when I came across this video. Good information to help make the decision.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @dennisdunne588
      @dennisdunne588 2 роки тому

      Call me crazy but I love the laminated furniture. Just for the look.

  • @stanislavt6376
    @stanislavt6376 3 роки тому +12

    Beautiful rifle, with that wood and simple cool look, gun for all life! I choose M-70 Zastava!

  • @BlackeyeVuk
    @BlackeyeVuk 3 роки тому +4

    As I understand Zastava has greenlight export to US up until 2027. This is from company statement last month.

  • @veevans01ify
    @veevans01ify 3 роки тому +3

    I picked up the ZPAP M70 with polymer furniture. I didn’t plan on buying anything the day that I picked it up. So happy that I did. It runs as smooth as a sewing machine. Excellent rifle.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +2

      Keep shooting it. The more you shoot the smoother it gets. My underfolder is by far my smoothest rifle. It even gives the krebs a run for its money in that department.

    • @RafsGunCollection
      @RafsGunCollection 3 роки тому

      HAHAHAHA SAME SAME SAME

  • @user-pj2hp4ig4o
    @user-pj2hp4ig4o 3 роки тому +8

    Bravo, nice stripes! I have one as well and older Yugo builds. Much agreed; get one now and best value

  • @theloudestgun
    @theloudestgun 3 роки тому +23

    I agree. The stock market is about to collapse. AK's are an excellent investment. Great video. I just subscribed.

    • @MrSymbolic7
      @MrSymbolic7 3 роки тому +2

      Could not agree more, insider selling is rampant and always a sign of a blow off top !

    • @zataraadventures
      @zataraadventures 3 роки тому

      I have been wondering this too!

    • @madride858585
      @madride858585 2 роки тому

      @@MrSymbolic7 you called it.

    • @madride858585
      @madride858585 2 роки тому

      Nailed it

  • @ryanclay959
    @ryanclay959 3 роки тому +5

    My first good A.K was a Yugoslav underfolder with the flip up night sights that were no longer lit up, it had the wood hand grips and black plastic pistol grip. It looked like it had been in storage for years and got imported. I got mine when the old ban was lifted in the early 2000's

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +2

      ok, so a good ol M70ab2 That was one rifle that Century got right. Check out my video on it. It was my first as well

    • @ryanclay959
      @ryanclay959 3 роки тому

      @@rockordnance I was thinking about that AK-47 and it had another sight in the front that folded up and it was for grenade launchers. I had forgotten about that but I just remembered that was on that Yugoslav and that was a very good AK and I wish I still had it.

  • @noneurbisness6521
    @noneurbisness6521 3 роки тому +6

    Got mine on black friday. Went in looking for an AR but they were so expensive and the clerk talked me into a Zpap because of import bans and local ammo avalability.

    • @rmossman88
      @rmossman88 3 роки тому +3

      Go buy that clerk a cake. He guided you right, great purchase.

  • @danletter9357
    @danletter9357 3 роки тому +3

    I love the wood grip. It’s original to the AK. Looks good. Feels good. Is good.

    • @blackjohnny9570
      @blackjohnny9570 3 роки тому +1

      Yes some people call the AK ugly, I've always found it good looking with the wood stock.

  • @markmason3146
    @markmason3146 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the heads up on oiling the furniture I just did my new red Russian ak47 and it really looks fantastic!!!!

  • @fercecfe
    @fercecfe 3 роки тому +10

    Cool video brother! Gotta love AK’s!

  • @stevepellechia1747
    @stevepellechia1747 3 роки тому +7

    Love my Zastava NPAP DF underfolder 1.0 stamped receiver ,accurate when warmed up at 100 yrds💥👍

  • @jacobseraphin685
    @jacobseraphin685 2 роки тому +9

    Went to the gun shop and I asked the owner if Zastava was worth the extra money compared to century arms, and he told me all the rifles in for repair were made by century, not a single Zastava. Just purchased my M70 the other day very satisfied

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  2 роки тому +1

      Ive had one for over 15 years and its never missed a beat.

  • @leecaptis5865
    @leecaptis5865 3 роки тому +17

    My new ZPAP looks so cozy sitting next to my M-48 Mauser. Two amazing rifles. BTW , thanks for the prediction about banning imports. Here I am writing in October of 2021 , and the ban on Russian ammo is very real.

    • @marvincampjr935
      @marvincampjr935 3 роки тому

      Yet the prices on the ammo went down on them so glad stock up

    • @zataraadventures
      @zataraadventures 3 роки тому

      Wait since when are they banning russian ammo?

    • @TheHitman-
      @TheHitman- 2 роки тому

      @@zataraadventures Since putin decided to kill innocent children and babies.

  • @burljohnson5648
    @burljohnson5648 3 роки тому +21

    Out my collection of AKs the Zpap definitely has the best fit and finish. Glad i got one before they went up to over a grand. Things are getting crazy with prices right now.

    • @PandemicGameplay
      @PandemicGameplay 3 роки тому +4

      @F RR Well yea. AKs are supposed to use steel why would you use brass? First AK?

    • @hxgianni1
      @hxgianni1 3 роки тому +4

      Yup! Price went up! I pay $1499 for mine.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +5

      @F RR Hell, I use steel case on anything. If I can get steel for it, its running it. I run it in my tavor, my AR's, AK's my scorpions and anything else I can get steel for in the correct caliber. Why not? its cheap and I can tell you from experience it doesnt hurt a dam thing. Dont listen to those that will tell you otherwise. Put it this way, your grandson will be shooting the gun before steel case ammo wears it out.

    • @madride858585
      @madride858585 2 роки тому

      @@hxgianni1 damn

  • @rhombifer566
    @rhombifer566 3 роки тому +2

    Good video I have a you go n pap pay 450 for it about 3,years ago I love it

    • @avalonavian3781
      @avalonavian3781 3 роки тому

      Same here... Now there worth about 3x that!!!

  • @mrsquishyboots
    @mrsquishyboots 3 роки тому +2

    this year I was able to get a vepr 6.5 Grendel and then a psak47 in green polymer. SVD style furniture for the vepr then cheese grater for the AK.

  • @dkdogs
    @dkdogs Рік тому

    I truly like you from what I’ve seen in your videos. A guy that’s not pushing sponsors and is truly excited about his guns. I’d love to have a cup of coffee and just hangout as two regular guys with similar interests.

  • @bobbyb7127
    @bobbyb7127 Рік тому +1

    I have exactly the same model, M70, but with walnut but cannot bring myself to putting anything on the wood, like Zastava's instruction say. That natural wood look and texture on mine is just too beautiful and I know putting any kind of finish on it, it will not look the same. I know that you you should protect the wood but I just can't do it. LOL.

  • @hollywoodquiet
    @hollywoodquiet 3 роки тому +3

    Just bought the red side folder version of it last night, for 1400. I'll get the Mapel one and the walnut one next as well. I bought the original Century import M70AB2 wood furniture underfolder in 2005-06 for $450 Nib, with two mags, bayonet, sling and cleaning kit. Still got it, and it still runs like a champ. I can't think of one FTF over the past 15yrs. Wanted an all Serbian made one, so I was looking at the Michelle imports from the 80s. However, they are about 3-4K. So now that Zastava created Zastava USA, and are exporting their guns (minus the compliance tid bits) I had to get one. Or three...

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +2

      I got a couple m70ab2's back in 05 as well. Same thing! Never a jam, not one. Things are tanks.

    • @zataraadventures
      @zataraadventures 3 роки тому

      @@rockordnance fixed stock or folding stock?

  • @kaweka260
    @kaweka260 3 роки тому +2

    Never knew that high hump on the hammer is what caused the tail mushrooming. Makes sense! I smoothed out the top of my ALG hammer on my Romanian to let it ride smoother but didn’t on my PSA AK103. I noticed the mushrooming on my PSA but my Romanian looks good. Now I will smooth out the hammer on my PSA. Thanks for the info!

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  2 роки тому +3

      It's not the hump that causes the mushrooming. What causes it is the hammer being harder than the bolt carrier tail. Tapco G2 triggers were notorious for being hardened more than most carriers and would mushroom the tails. There have been reports of earlier batches of ALG triggers that were too hard. Personally I have not experienced the problem with ALG's but I have with Tapso's. I wouldnt worry yourself about it. Typically if they do mushroom, its only a little bit and stops and really doesnt matter. In a perfect world both would be hardened to the same Rockwell hardness and would stay perfect. But.....

  • @donkeypunch5138
    @donkeypunch5138 2 роки тому +6

    Hands down best AK on the market right now value wise. I totally agree with you on some of the more proprietary aspects of the gun. I LIKE having more real-estate on my handguard. Gives you plenty of room for a light and a good foregrip if you so choose. I like how beefy they built the gun in general. The extra thickness on the receiver and bulged front trunnion are huge for durability and longevity of service. Also the gun is less janky feeling than a lot of other AK's on the market IMO. You shouldn't have to spend 2k to get a AK that doesn't seem like a drunk person built it and passed the QC on it.
    The only other AK on the market right now making waves is the WBP Jack and the mini Jack and that gun is just not as good of a buy for the value. You can find Zastava's for as low as 900 bucks some places. Those WBP Jacks are coming out the gate at 1400-1500 bucks and its REALLY nothing special. Its JUST an AKM that WORKS and lives up to what an AK should be able to do. Its fucked up that the AK market is so fucked up right now that people will spend that much for a reliable AK. In all honesty no AK should get to 2k and most shouldn't cost more than 700-800 bucks the only reason they do is because people fucking buy em for those inflated prices and I mean value is almost meaningless. Cause you can buy a PSA piece of junk novelty AK for the same price just about as the Zastava which is an actual working gun you could use in the field if you needed to and its going to be reliable. and so will the WBP but it costs 500 dollars more, and the only benefit you really get is compatibility of furniture. And the only time that's going to matter is if the world collapses and you gotta survive in the woods on limited resources and you needed a new handguard for your AK or some shit. its going to be a lot easier if you have a "mil-spec" kind of gun so to speak. But truth be told if that happened 75% of us would probably be dead before we had a chance to even do anything to begin with. So it doesn't really matter to me. I think the whole compatibility thing is over sold by people who live a fantasy about if a SHTF scenario arises they're just going to be out there surviving in the wasteland like Ellie and Joel or some shit. When the harsh reality is if things got that bad chances are something would happen that would lead to a huge death toll and your 3/4 chances going to be one of the people who dies from a god damn nuke or something like that. Everybody is a side character who thinks they're a protagonist in this world. That's part of the reason we have so many victim minded people running around. Cause no matter how badly you want to believe the world revolves around you, like a movie revolves around a protagonist, you find out very harshly that the world doesn't give a fuck about you. Aint no divine plan. Aint no narrative. Aint no plot armor. and the good ones suffer first. That's just reality. As sad as it is.

    • @stoegerstewie8351
      @stoegerstewie8351 2 роки тому +1

      Bro ,you good ? We all our own heroes;) A look at the stars is all we need to remind ourselves how trivial we all are on this rock. Just remember that we passed a pandemic and living in the best times humans ever existed on this rock.

    • @1308SPAZZ
      @1308SPAZZ Рік тому +2

      So PSA Ak with forged parts and cold hammer forged barrels are any good ?

    • @donkeypunch5138
      @donkeypunch5138 Рік тому

      @@1308SPAZZ PSA are good in terms of NOVELTY grade AK's. They are 100% produced for the civilian market by people who haven't even been doing it for 10 years yet.
      Not saying PSA doesn't make GOOD AK's there is just a very obvious difference in quality when you compare a gun like a PSA AK to someone who has been doing it for generations now, and also builds these guns for their countries military and there fore have more experience but also they build these guns to actually work. Not just to sit in chads gun safe for 98% of the year, every year. This is why is preach so hard on Zastava being probably the best bang for the buck right now.
      Another reason I don't particularly like PSA is because, I don't give a fuck what they say, everything they make is mass produced. That's why PSA has the inconsistencies it has with its QC. Yes companies like Zastava mass produce their guns too, but then we go back to experience and standards being what separates these two companies.
      Zastava has bad eggs too. Every company does. But PSA has a few guns that, are just having some very basic level problems. And for the prices they are asking for on some of the 100 series guns PSA can eat a dick. I dont care if they serve the gun with a lifetime warranty. Im not paying 1300 bucks, waiting 2 weeks for it, to see its one of the guns with issues so I gotta send it back in. That shit right there kills the gun for me, idc who it comes from.
      So my issues with PSA are basically trust related. I trust they'll do the right thing, but I also trust that there's a fair chance that I buy an AK from them to find out the firing pin is out of spec, or any of the other issues they have been reported having. Nd I dont play around with 1300 bucks. If im spending 1300 on a AK that bitch better run. And that's why I bought a M92 instead of the PSAK105 I was going to get originally.

    • @donkeypunch5138
      @donkeypunch5138 Рік тому

      @@stoegerstewie8351 lol, yeah. I dont remember what exact mindset I was in when I wrote that bottom part lol. Im guessing it was a night where I was a little stressed out, probably popped a bottle open too lol. Whiskey and SHTF videos lol Im guessing thats what I was on lol

  • @wtchoutna
    @wtchoutna Рік тому

    Ur right about that hammer issue. I smoothed and ground it to function better and it makes a big difference

  • @randalhuffman8827
    @randalhuffman8827 4 місяці тому

    I gave 1750 for mine 2yrs ago. It has aftermarket furniture. It is a tank. They will pry that out of my cold dead hands. It runs out ammo with 0 issues as fast as you want. Zastava is the only choice in my book. I am just pissed the bayonet lug was cut off. Good video.

  • @lancelittleton9802
    @lancelittleton9802 2 роки тому +5

    Ordered my ZPap over a month ago in walnut, and just put the 10th coat of Tung oil on it...it looks absolutely beautiful. I paid $1050 for it, but I know prices will only go up.

    • @madride858585
      @madride858585 2 роки тому

      10 coats?

    • @lancelittleton9802
      @lancelittleton9802 2 роки тому

      @@madride858585 Yup, have you used Pure tung oil before? I'm sure it'll be more as the years go on.

    • @rustcoal
      @rustcoal Рік тому

      Welp....looks like prices actually went down

    • @christophermichaels6569
      @christophermichaels6569 Рік тому

      @@rustcoalnope that’s about what it is after tax. $992.99 then about $1,058 if I remember after tax. I got mine for $967 after tax with a code and free shipping.

  • @Kyle-si8yw
    @Kyle-si8yw 24 дні тому

    Sure glad i grabbed up my zastava. It shoots as tight as my Armalite heavy barrel target Ar15 but where it shines is it has never failed to fire or feed.

  • @kwangnam9993
    @kwangnam9993 3 роки тому +2

    Great info! Your love for AKs can be clearly seen. You’ve convinced me to pick one up soon.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +2

      You should! Pick a solid import. Wasr, zastava, arsenal. That order is going from least expensive to most expensive. Import rifles are for the most part built in military factories and will be built to those standards. They will work and last.

    • @marvincampjr935
      @marvincampjr935 3 роки тому

      I'm hooked on AKs been for 20 years when you could get wasrs for 325 brand new lol

  • @TheOzoneLayerHatesMe
    @TheOzoneLayerHatesMe 3 роки тому +5

    Absolutely beautiful wood and blueing

  • @christopherbishop4927
    @christopherbishop4927 3 роки тому +7

    I agree about the ZASTAVA ZPAP so does a lot of other reviewers
    Nice FAB & TDI furniture on your NPAP
    looks like my VEPR

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +3

      I bet our veprs look identicle!

    • @christopherbishop4927
      @christopherbishop4927 3 роки тому +1

      @@rockordnance, I am quite sure that they're very similar ......GL Core buttstock and AG 47 pistol grip, TDI was out of stock so I found the Alfa from the Russian Federation basically what TDI copied and I have a Cheese Grater gastube cover. 3X Primary Arms acs reticle scope

  • @coffeeandlifting
    @coffeeandlifting 3 роки тому +8

    Good overview. The Bulgarian stuff is in another price category, so for basic AK's most people get to choose between Zastava and Cugir (Romanian). I've had really good luck with the Romanian imports for what its worth. Cugir rifles have been imported by M+M as well as Century (WASR, RH10, Draco etc) and they are all good to go.

  • @ajlukelepuke
    @ajlukelepuke 3 роки тому +4

    When the Romanian SARs started thinning out, WASRs were going for $150ish. Can't believe how expensive they are now.

  • @boomerak4774
    @boomerak4774 2 роки тому +1

    I have a wasr 10/63 uf but on the fence of getting a zpap m70 I think I'm going to pull the plug soon.. start an ak collection

  • @TheRobman139
    @TheRobman139 3 роки тому +4

    Excellent vid. Hope the dire predictions don’t come true but know they might. Beautiful rifle.

  • @hudsonhayer9376
    @hudsonhayer9376 3 роки тому +2

    I have had a few but im gonna tell you right now PSA makes a damn good AK. Nice and tight and don't feel like it's about to shake apart in your hands.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +2

      I have not shot one but I have seen them in person. The one's with the FN barrel sure seem well built and I have not heard anything bad about them.

  • @ThinkBIGBodybuilding
    @ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 роки тому

    you were right about imports!! Good call

  • @kbaseti5861
    @kbaseti5861 3 роки тому +4

    You got a really nice set of hand guards, I'm jealous. My stock looks amazing but my hand guards I wish had more striping. They are beautiful guns though. I used tung oil on mine and it's beautiful.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +1

      Well, if you'll trade me stocks, mine will look amazing! My stock is sort of plain and darker than the handguard.

  • @jourdencrebessa1297
    @jourdencrebessa1297 3 роки тому +2

    Just bought the sam7sf milled. I love it.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +1

      The zpap is an awesome rifle for the money but I put the sams in a different class. Not necessarily a better class just different. The milled guns have a different feel. Again, different not necessarily better. I tend to prefer stamped guns. For whatever reason I like the looks better, I like that I can run a heavier barrel but be roughly the same weight as a milled and I've got stamped guns that are smoother than my sams. That being said, I love my Sam side folder and my sam pistol. The sidefolder shoots so well for me! With iron sights and offhand shooting, I just cant miss! The thing is like a laser beam. Must just be it fits me well, handles well and is very accurate. Maybe I was having a good day, who knows. I shot the zpap and the Sam back to back the other day and definitely shot the Sam better but I love the yugos more and if I had to choose would probably keep my yugos over my sams.

  • @undeadgunslinger2537
    @undeadgunslinger2537 3 роки тому +3

    Finally got one a few weeks ago for $1300 !! I wish I would have grabbed one when they were $800-$1000, but glad I got the chrome lined barrel. Now I have some shooting to do.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +1

      You and me both! Mine was just a hair less.

    • @guns4Armageddon
      @guns4Armageddon 3 роки тому

      I was at budsgun shop here in tn and they had one for 1350 and I called another place and found one for 950 bought it and now they got 6 left

  • @mobilegamersunite
    @mobilegamersunite Рік тому +1

    I've had great luck with mine, got a full tactical Zastava while I could. 2000 rounds later I'm a happy camper 😅

  • @DARIVSARCHITECTVS
    @DARIVSARCHITECTVS 3 роки тому +3

    The Serbian AK's have always been a great bargain for what you buy.

  • @bobbyb7127
    @bobbyb7127 2 роки тому +1

    Man this was a year ago and now it's so much worse. I just bought a VSKA and wish I would have bought the Zastava zpapm70 but very very serious about getting it anyway. Thanks for the video, I really appreciate it.

  • @hattorihanzo2275
    @hattorihanzo2275 3 роки тому +1

    Do you have a sling recommendation for the M70? I picked up a 2 pt with leather clasps at both ends. Even giving myself the most length the clasp attached to the stock slips to one side and pulls at the attachment if I bring the rile up to firing position. Picked up the walnut variety at Crossroads of the West in July. Tiger Maple or Serbian Red was my desire but the latter was $600 because it had a folding stock. Walnut does not look too shabby. Still happy. Taking it to the range tomorrow morning for the first shoot. My first rifle. Have a stock retail magazine it came with to clean up which your other video will come in handy for.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +2

      I really like original yugo military slings but they can be a bit short depending on how you want to run them. Romanian slings are great too. As far as aftermarket goes, I like the magpul ms3 slings. The clips work well on typical ak sling attachment points.

  • @Civilian_Patriot
    @Civilian_Patriot 4 місяці тому

    Just purchased one of these off Armslist for $1,000, came with 6 mags, and all Midwest industries furniture on it. It’s built like a damn tank. Heavy rifle and shoots amazingly

  • @johnk5061
    @johnk5061 Рік тому +5

    I’ve owned a Century Arms, C39 V2. American made, milled receiver, under $800. Just a fantastic value, runs with the best of them.

  • @eclectic3618
    @eclectic3618 Рік тому +2

    GF3 for the money is really a great AK
    I have a Zastava UF, WASR 1063, and An Egyptian Maadi, but TBH my PSA GF3 fit n finish is the best lol

  • @ryanclay959
    @ryanclay959 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Rockford Ordnance. What State are you making your video's in? I just seen your channel for the first time this morning and I subscribed.

  • @snakeeater8303
    @snakeeater8303 3 роки тому +4

    There’s also the WBP fox which is getting great reviews but you can’t get them right now

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +2

      Yes! Forgot about them. Very nice solid and well built ak. As far as bang for the buck, the fox delivers. The only thing that keeps it sort of out of the running is that it has the puzzle piece or beryl tang and I dont believe its a firearm with true military history.

    • @davelpz3340
      @davelpz3340 3 роки тому

      @@rockordnance That and they aren’t coming in consistently. Zastava is kicking names and taking A$$

  • @kenibnanak5554
    @kenibnanak5554 Рік тому +3

    I agree this is definitely one of the best, if not the best, of the civilian AK variants. My only complaint is that they went with a proprietary side mount instead of just offering a Piccatinny railed dust cover. LoL that we don;t see corrosive ammo anymore. I have several unopened crates of corrosive M67 ammo.. Lots of places still sell that ammo. I like the new Polish magazines.

  • @eltenda
    @eltenda 3 роки тому +10

    Krebs,rifle d. And meridian as far custom....standard zastava usa i love mine

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +3

      You know I agree with you! I was going toward the factory stuff but Yea, Krebs takes the cake for custom AK's ! Hell, I dont even consider them custom, I consider them a manufacturer as well. Just a high end one. If I had to keep just one or a go to war rifle, definitely my Krebs. I would probably ditch that zenitco furniture I have on mine and go to either the factory arsenal poly folder that came on it or the factory triangle stock. I would either put one of marks handguards on it or the TDI and for an optic I would either run my PA 3x prism or PA 1x6 and that folks is in my opinion the best ak. But for factory guns I'll take the yugo.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +3

      I actually forgot you had a zpap. I told you I was going to end up getting one! If you guys want to see a nicely done zpap, go over to my buddy's channel, eltenda's channel! This guy right here! He put together and added some things that make his one sweet looking rifle! Im going over to your video right now to refresh my memory. You added one of mark's handguards right?

    • @eltenda
      @eltenda 3 роки тому +1

      @@rockordnance yes sir! And I like it! Krebs customs for the win bro'!

    • @choppahgobark
      @choppahgobark 3 роки тому

      I think meridian defense is top dawg now, they suppressor tune their guns included in the $15-1600 price, 🤔 whereas RDynamics, your paying over $2k for a suppressor tuned gun. Don't get me wrong , every custom builder you mentioned are the shit, just throwing 2 cents in.

    • @PandemicGameplay
      @PandemicGameplay 3 роки тому +1

      @@choppahgobark I mean at this point they are just Romanian build kits with extra parts. but you do you. They dont even make their base guns Arsenals anymore.

  • @timkc1638
    @timkc1638 3 роки тому +2

    I’d say the New FB Radom 7.62 x 39 is …but agreed the zastava zpap and wbp fox are tops for the cost.

  • @vanillagorilla8197
    @vanillagorilla8197 3 роки тому +3

    Great info...nice job.....COULDNT AGREE MORE...LOVE MY ZPAP M70

  • @tinkerberns5216
    @tinkerberns5216 7 місяців тому

    I'm new to AK's and was on a Groupe on Facebook. This guy on there said he worked on guns and this was the worst you could get. He absolutely said they were a piece of crap. I differed with him and he sort of got mad. He said "listen" to me... these guns are crap. I would never buy one. I think you for confirming what I thought. And this is the one I'm going to buy.

  • @davelpz3340
    @davelpz3340 3 роки тому +3

    Any thoughts on the ZASTAVA USA Polymer magazines with metal locking lugs?

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +3

      Yep, ive got a few and they have run flawlessly so far. I cant tell you yet what the future holds for them but so far so good. I got a case of tula today so should have a few fun range days coming up!

  • @WhiteDwarfVR4
    @WhiteDwarfVR4 3 роки тому +2

    Got my girl an SLR-95 last Christmas. 800 bucks for an Arsenal?! Couldn't pass that up! Of course I picked it up right about the time people started fighting over toilet paper. Quite possibly one of the smoothest actions of any rifle I've ever held. Might have to keep my ear to the ground for one of these for myself 😁

  • @jimlind9449
    @jimlind9449 3 роки тому +7

    LOVE your videos! Totally agree about your talking points. These and the Arsenal sam7s could be the next "Polytech Legends" and Veprs. Protectors metals are now copper brass and lead. Those tiger stripes look fantastic. Great find!

  • @glorfac
    @glorfac 3 роки тому +2

    I purchased a Century Arms Thunder Ranch for $1400 after tax back in March, 2 weeks later I saw a ZPAP for 1250 + tax. As of yet I have nothing to complain about but I still wish I had waited for the ZPAP

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому

      Ha! Ive got a thunder ranch AR on the way.

  • @Zhukov43580
    @Zhukov43580 3 роки тому +4

    ZPAP is a solid rifle for sure. Nice review.

    • @rslover65
      @rslover65 3 роки тому +2

      @steven miller correct. 1.5mm receiver, hammer forged chrome lined heavy barrel and bulged trunion. Kind of a RPK carbine

    • @rslover65
      @rslover65 3 роки тому

      @steven miller that is too much. Mine was 950, and I think that was too much.

    • @rslover65
      @rslover65 3 роки тому +2

      Just looked on classic firearms, they're $1500 +tax and shipping now

  • @bonsaw57
    @bonsaw57 2 роки тому +1

    Don’t be scared, palmetto state is making incredible ak’s if you’re concerned about performance. If you’re looking for collectibility; buy now and buy fast

  • @1kozmosis
    @1kozmosis 3 роки тому +1

    Just got a zpap it's the magpul folder and quad rail. Thinking of going to wood furniture. What optic is that?

  • @embee5861
    @embee5861 3 роки тому +5

    New viewer and subscriber... I appreciated the conversation... 🍻

  • @bigtrev761
    @bigtrev761 Рік тому +1

    🇦🇺😎👍Youse people have all the good gear in the US. We get screwed down he in Australia regularly. We get told not to cause too much trouble with the government otherwise they’ll take everything away (SSAA) ( sporting shooters association Australia)They took all our semi automatic rifles and pump action shotguns in 1997 just in case. Nowadays they are coming for the bolt actions. 284 Nosler and up are banned for safety ( just in case ) in Western Australia and now they are putting 5 gun limit on shooters. ( buy back the rest or hand it in ) Not to mention the Licencing and registration crap and the cost associated. In Australia we don’t have a violent society. We don’t have mass shootings etc. Australia is a happy peaceful hard working nation and still they hound us. Great video brother. Never give up the 2A , it’s better than privileges

  • @kypatriot7037
    @kypatriot7037 Рік тому

    Great review! What are your thoughts on the WPB Jack chambered in 7.62x39?

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  Рік тому +1

      everything coming out of wbp seems to be great stuff and for the price I think theyre a steal

  • @Widemouth1832
    @Widemouth1832 3 роки тому +1

    I hear that people on the AK files say the chrome is flaking. Mine is holding up very well. I loved my Zastava. I picked mine up in June 2020 for about $799.00. My Bosnian friend told me they did not chrome line their barrels so that they could quickly make the barrels in case of a war.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому

      Lots of rumors about why they didntuse chrome. Some say they lacked the natural resources in their country and would have to rely on importing the chromium.

    • @suki376
      @suki376 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@rockordnance There was no need to chrome line barrels. It is simple, you have to keep your rifle clean. Every soldier in Yugoslav (latter Serbian) army had obligation to return his rifle in the same condition after a one year service. 5 % of barrel damage was allowed. If there was more damage, you should pay for it (although, I never heard that such a case ever occured). So, keeping your riflle clean and in the good order on daily bases was a priority.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +2

      Ive heard the same from some guys who served in the yugo army. The reason some folks here in the states get so worked up about it is that back when ak's first started coming in, all there was was milsurp corrosive ammo. They would go shooting and not clean the rifle right away and then pick the gun up a week later to find the bore all rusted. Now with commercial ammo, its not a problem but they will then insist a chrome bore will last longer. This is usually the same guy who puts 20 rounds through it every couple years. The rifles will outlast them and their grandchildren. LOL!

  • @egmjag
    @egmjag 3 роки тому +10

    I tried to buy a Tiger Maple online when it was first released from a reputable and well-known dealer and the website indicated that I made the purchase. But because so many were making the purchase for that same rifle, I got screwed out of getting one. figured that Zastava would make another batch and even one gun store told me they had some on the way. But alas, it wasn't to be for me again. I almost got the Serbian Red triangle folder ZPAP but thankfully, someone online wrote that if I want a Tiger Maple that bad, I should go to a website where I found several on auction. I wasn't going to wait so I paid double the price a few days ago. I don't have the luxury of living in a free state, so I can't bid for valuable items that might soon be banned by that decrepit, brain-damaged resident and his boss.

    • @RepentorPerish77
      @RepentorPerish77 3 роки тому

      Just got a tiger maple for $999 brand new. As soon as I saw it I snatched it up and sold my PSA GF3 to get some of my money back lol

    • @gordotortuga8748
      @gordotortuga8748 2 роки тому +1

      DK Firearms has them back today if you are still wishing.

    • @madride858585
      @madride858585 2 роки тому +1

      @@gordotortuga8748 DK is great

    • @lmCIoudz
      @lmCIoudz 2 роки тому

      There is no such thing as tiger maple.

    • @1308SPAZZ
      @1308SPAZZ Рік тому

      @@RepentorPerish77what brand rifle? You sold your PSA so I figure I should look into whatever brand you have

  • @Ron55669
    @Ron55669 3 роки тому +1

    Picked up the walnut version the same day the ammo ban was announced.😑

  • @thomasforman7628
    @thomasforman7628 3 роки тому +10

    I GOT THIS GUN WHEN COVID CAME. I LOVE IT MORE THEN ANY OF MY OTHER AK TYPE RIFLES ITS A NICE FIRE ARM. BOYZ BUY THEM WHILE WE STILL CAN.

  • @spadetrump
    @spadetrump 3 роки тому +2

    ye. I ordered a czechpoint made VZ 58 last week. figure there will be an import ban. i should probably get an AK. im an AR guy. but i want to have things I wont be able to get in the future. I think you sold me on a Z-pap. I regret not grabbing one up this week at brownells for 969.

    • @spadetrump
      @spadetrump 3 роки тому +1

      funny. i made that comment before i watch the end of the video. i drew the same conclusion. ANYTHING you want from overseas. BUY IT NOW.

  • @DarisHolt
    @DarisHolt 3 роки тому +6

    Got the zpap92 pistol ...love it ...new to ak’s so I don’t really have anything to compare it to but I’ve heard great reviews on it ..Shxt is loud‼️

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому

      Congratulations!!! You chose well! As your first album, I know all to well how exciting it is and how much you probably love that gun. My first was a Yugo as well. Enjoy and spread the word to all you know. What’s important is that we gain 2a supporters or this way of life is over my friend. Try to introduce someone new everyday, especially the young. We need them and their votes! Have fun and be safe!

    • @sanchosgotcha2749
      @sanchosgotcha2749 3 роки тому +2

      I chose the Zpap pistol also. It’s in the mail and I’m patiently waiting for it to arrive.

    • @DarisHolt
      @DarisHolt 3 роки тому +1

      @@sanchosgotcha2749 it’s a really good firearms ..you’ll enjoy it

    • @sanchosgotcha2749
      @sanchosgotcha2749 3 роки тому

      L.D. MUSIC what makes it so much sweeter is I won it in a package with a brace and red dot already on it. I was bored one day and entered a raffle.

    • @DarisHolt
      @DarisHolt 3 роки тому +1

      @@sanchosgotcha2749 ah man ur lucky lol I had to buy all that stuff and put it on mine but that’s dope‼️ let me know how you like it 👍

  • @rmichaelzachary8574
    @rmichaelzachary8574 29 днів тому

    If you mean newly manufactured and available to US Shooters, the best value is the wood stocked or underfolding wood stocked Zastava, but their aftermarket accessories aren't The greatest. The best quality is the Arsenal. PSA is making strides with 1.5mm receiver carbines. Century may be producing a new in spec milled receiver, forged, chrome lined barrel AK soon.

  • @joseleon3868
    @joseleon3868 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful gun just what I was looking for where can I get the accessories keep the videos coming got links where to get the accessories 🙏

  • @d30gaijin
    @d30gaijin 3 роки тому +1

    Wonderful. Another "This is the best AK in the world" video. Might I suggest that the "best AK in the world" is the one you can afford and find it in stock when you're looking for an AK.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому

      I absolutely agree with you. That's why I didnt say best ak in the world. The title is Best ak on the market today. Meaning best ak that is available and a good price considering the current market.

  • @zapplebuttergaming5647
    @zapplebuttergaming5647 2 роки тому +1

    I'm so happy I put one in layaway I knew just feeling the zastava it was a good ak feels 20 times better than century arms

  • @averydrew478
    @averydrew478 3 роки тому +3

    The TGI AMD-65 is one of my favorites

    • @keithmoore8777
      @keithmoore8777 3 роки тому +1

      I own one I call it my lil ugly lmao...it's loud as hell!

  • @petyapetov502
    @petyapetov502 3 роки тому +2

    Great review, ton of useful information 👍

  • @dougshelton69
    @dougshelton69 3 роки тому +1

    This video made me buy that rifle...thanx dude💕🇺🇸

  • @tomchepey2999
    @tomchepey2999 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent video. Thank you sir.

  • @smlee7348
    @smlee7348 3 роки тому +1

    You were right and On-Target...."Let's go Brandon" did it and more....I got $1000 ZPAP today....maybe not best price but its fun....thanks

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому

      Not a bad price either! Congrats! How does yours shoot?

  • @andrewmahdak3165
    @andrewmahdak3165 3 роки тому +1

    ty boss i have a zastava looking to get anither one

  • @kennethparker2168
    @kennethparker2168 Рік тому

    He was so correct on buying now you know the old saying Thoes that hesitate !!!

  • @Badlanders214
    @Badlanders214 2 роки тому

    This was a decent video, learned a few things

  • @dealerofburningsalt3649
    @dealerofburningsalt3649 3 роки тому +4

    Hey can you sell me that wooden stock, the one you took off? Love the video! I just bought an M70 and it has a metal fixed stock, and I hate it.

    • @goodsamaritansnipersociety3240
      @goodsamaritansnipersociety3240 3 роки тому +1

      I'm using a UTG rubber buttpad zip tied to my metal triangle stock...while I decide what to replace it with, maybe order a surplus stock, and stain it to match the "Serbian red" handguards.

    • @dealerofburningsalt3649
      @dealerofburningsalt3649 3 роки тому +2

      @@goodsamaritansnipersociety3240 I just bought a whole matching set, and its working out pretty good. Still waiting on bonesteel stock, but who knows when that is going to happen. Original YUGO wooden stock works awesome with optics, I also converted standard wooden AK stock and it works on my YUGO. It does requires cutting, drilling, and fitting but it is possible. I ordered out of spec stock for 12$ and made it work just fine. Currently using yugo wooden stock just because I run optics 9/10. Hope it helps.

  • @tm42023
    @tm42023 3 роки тому +1

    I just bought corrosive ammo. Happy I have that chromed barrel . Tough market .

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому

      Nothing a little cleaning after a range session cant handle.

    • @johnwallace1729
      @johnwallace1729 3 роки тому

      Use the high ammonia windex , then clp or your choice , your fine , i bought some brass cased euro ,it was really corrosive , just do your maintenance.

  • @bass_and_bass3323
    @bass_and_bass3323 3 роки тому +8

    I love my wasr10 never fails ❤

  • @kenhall490
    @kenhall490 Рік тому

    ZPap is based on the Opap not the Npap. Npap had a 1mm thick receiver and standard AK front trunion. Opap had the RPK front trunion and 1.5mm receiver, hence the bulge under the charging handle.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  Рік тому +1

      You are talking about gen2 zpap. when the zpap first came out.....again, when it first hit the market, the ZPAP was not the rifle it is today. It didn't have bulged trunnions and it didnt have a chrome lined barrel. Those changes were made shortly after. First they added the bulged trunnions and then they added the chrome lining of the barrel. People forget about the first ones that came out when zastava usa first started doing there own importing and distribution. Before zastava usa, century arms was handling the importation and selling of zastava product. Do a little research and you will see. There are plenty of videos on the original zpap.

  • @thebigfellar7178
    @thebigfellar7178 3 роки тому +2

    I didn't have a choice as far as wood or hogue setup .It popped up as available at 5:25 in the morning . I had to go feed the critters ,I didn't hesitate I ordered right then no waiting to confer with the BOSS , ""Life or Death Decision """ I know ,I know. At 5:45 it was no longer available , and has not been since. Everywhere you go now Ak's are over a thousand everywhere they can be found , which is like finding a white Unicorn. My M70 was $799.99 in Sept 20 , Jan 13th 21 $ 999.99 and My fingers were typing so fast the keyboard was smoking. I had to wait 7 weeks before I got it .I agree boys and girls ,if you don't get one now , you may never get the chance ever again. They have been banned 3 times in my lifetime , the 4th will be the last ,wanna bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Century's are unavailable everywhere too . And they are nothing compared to a Zastava. If nothing else great investment . Peace.

    • @rockordnance
      @rockordnance  3 роки тому +1

      If you see one, buy it. doesnt matter what you payed if you cant get one. This may be the final nail in the coffin.

  • @lilteerex
    @lilteerex 3 роки тому

    How can I purchase one