Twelve Overview - Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike [4K]
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Twelve is very unconventional and was likely inspired by the Darkstalkers series, having an airdash and even an invisibility taunt. The developers were probably afraid of how such a character would upset balance, so left Twelve's damage pitifully low.
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The name twelve is a reference to the number of times it needs to win neutral in order to do enough damage to win a round
name would be 20 or something
Mad respect to the twelve Twelve mains out there, living the best life and being based.
Lol
Twelve gang for life
Sure he's garbage but have you considered he's just a really cool/goofy dude
Man there was a few of them on fight Cade maybe 6 years ago.
twelve is a slot and coin waster, nothing else. but sure if you like twelve....
I wonder if he really was originally designed to be in Darkstalkers. He'd be right at home with the other monsters
Same with necro. They both give DS vibes
Imagine how cool he would have been with vsav mechanics integrated (like morrigan in cvs2)
“He’s like the fighting game equivalent of a Pug” -Leon Massey
One day people are going to find a broken tech with twelve and change that "Incredibad" to "Top Tier Nightmare"
it's been 24 years of constant gameplay and competition, fat chance
uncle_pongo
@@maxownzor2thelawnmower776 Pretty sure they were just joking bruh
@@maxownzor2thelawnmower776 that one third strike video where twelve one shot yun with his anti air axe normal move
A shame this didn't go more in-depth. I wrote an extensive analysis on Twelve on TV Tropes a while back, looking at his numerous flaws. I've been playing Twelve for a few years, just for the sake of changing the pace (Chun-Li, Akuma, Sean, Hugo, and Elena are my other characters) and throwing opponents off. So, here are a few more things that should be mentioned:
-Most of his instant air dash enders can combo into his normals. All of his fierce, roundhouse, strong, and forward enders can combo into his weak/short attacks. Basically, all of his best combos start off as aerials, and go in reverse priority compared to the other characters. That's why a lot of players have trouble using him, because they don't realize _his combos are inverted._ But more importantly, they can also combo into his neutral forward kick, which is a knee attack very that inflicts high stun. Not only can you easily rack up stun and keep the opponent on the defensive, but it also hit confirms into SA1. This is absolutely essential for his pressure tactics.
-One of the most underutilized aspects of Twelve's SA1 is the invincibility it gives his upper body. If timed well, it will let you dodge and counter projectile Super Arts like Ryu's Shinkuu and Denjin Hadoukens, Akuma's standing Messatsu Gou Hadou, Sean's Hadou Burst, etc. It will also go through Urien's Aegis Reflector, Oro's Yagyou Dama, Chun-Li's Kikosho at certain distances, and beat out Necro's Electric Snake. It can also counter Remy's Light of Justice, but you need to be mid-range and trigger it before the second wave of projectiles come out. In short, it can be used as a counter Super Art in certain matchups. That's very much in line with Twelve's overall design; it's not about big damage or combos, but outmaneuvering opponents and countering by punishing whiffs and missed parries. Anyone who jokes that XCOPY is his best Super hasn't spent enough time experimenting with SA1.
-His ability to crouch walk can also be used to frustrate opponents who recklessly jump in. NDL and the EX version can be useful for that as well. I always use Twelve when fighting against Ryu because he can negate so many of the latter's attacks; when played correctly, Twelve is basically designed to counter Ryu.
-His back dash has some unique properties if your opponent is in the corner and you're using aerial attacks. Let's say you try go in for an instant air dash and end it with a fierce, roundhouse, strong, and forward. If your opponent gets hit or blocks, watch Twelve's animation carefully. As soon as he lands on the ground, input a backdash immediately. If done correctly and depending what attack you used, he'll backdash somewhere between half and all the way across the screen. This can be used to discourage opponents from trying to counterattack on block. When combined with the combo ability of his aerials to his normals, it becomes clear that Twelve's strategy was never about high damage; it's about maintaining pressure, keeping the opponent off balance via unpredictability, racking up stun (which is very easy to do with the knee), and finishing with a super.
-He has an OTG super via his matchup with Hugo. Do his neutral throw, and perform SA1 or 2 immediately after Twelve lands on the ground. It's obviously extremely risky against Hugo, so only do it if Hugo is dizzy and you want to show off.
-His instant air dash makes him highly susceptible to air throws due to the slow speed, especially if he's changing directions. Hugo is the obvious matchup that comes to mind (though that can be countered with Twelve's aerial medium punch depending on the spacing), but Chun Li is absurdly good at it due to her superior jump speed and range. Seriously, even if you have only a little bit of experience using Chun Li's air throw, you should be able to stop most of Twelve's air dashing antics cold.
as a twelve main, this is v helpful ty
I wonder if you'd get into trouble reposting your write up on tv tropes somewhere else like a 3rd strike subreddit or a yee old internet forum
Great analysis! Always liked Twelve's design and played as him casually just because it was fun.
I'm always hearing that Twelve is garbage because he has to hit the enemy more times than the enemy has to hit him. But what if that's what balances him out? His toolset basically makes him a professional at poking his opponents. He can harass the enemy from any distance and while his damage is low, his toolset (if used correctly) allows him to hit his opponents MORE times than they hit him. I've seen many matches of good Twelve players and they just harass the opponent non-stop, always throwing something different their way. It's always so entertaining. Sure, it requires an insane amount of skill to get to a competitive level, but boy is it hilarious to see the sheer confusion in the opponents' faces.
Twelve is like the nunchucks of fighting games. Impractical and very hard to use, but so entertaining in the hands of a professional.
My favourite SF character design ever if im being honest, id play 3S JUST so i can play Twelve.
"if you want to flop around and be useless, Twelve might be for you" sounds about me on a daily basis!
Niforse. Funny name for a Magikarp.
have fun literally getting smoked by every other character
@@maxownzor2thelawnmower776 bruh, sounds like you're taking this too seriously XD
@@maxownzor2thelawnmower776sounds like skill issue, but it doesn't matter for me because i have skill issue with every fighting game so i'm getting smoked either way.
"The best part of playing Twelve are those couple of seconds when you're not playing Twelve." In-game, Twelve is twenty kinds of terrible, but I think he's a cool concept story wise. Trying to hide from a group of these things would be terrifying, they're essentially T-1000s that can fly. Funny thing about X.F.L.A.T is that it would probably be a decent super in a Vs. game, since it apparently does more damage the higher up you are in the air.
I like what Bafael said about Twelve in his bad balance video, which is something along the lines of "Twelve feels like a developer's experiment on how little damage you can give a poking character and still be good".
I am fascinated with its animations, I love them
For the crazy few interested in learning twelve, check out yama and hugo-kun. Theyre two of the most well-known players of the character and are kinda seen as being novelties because literally no one plays this character. Theyre like an endangered species
my brother in christ. its the same person. lmao
Anyone who plays Twelve or Sean Has mad Respect 🔥🔥🔥
Being designed as an homage to Darkstalkers characters makes a lot of sense actually. Give him some chain combos, something to keep up offense and make those tiny cuts add up, and he'd be viable.
I remember in my final moments of continuous play of 3s, I went for Twelve. I just wanted to suffer and suffer I sure did.
Now this, this is my main. Somehow the most fun character in the game. Well to me at least.
He also has the best iddle animation of all time. Can't have everything.
There's my boy.
If you wanna watch some pro plays with this bad boy, Yama is a good one. He looks like he's playing on a different game.
I wanna see Twelve be put into street fighter 6. I wanna see what things the can do with him with the drive system.
Oh yeah, I might add a bit.
X.C.O.P.Y makes you take MORE damage after your duration ends, so sticking to N.D.L is more safe than turning into Chun-Li for a few seconds when you dealt no comebacks with it.
Now that you guys did all the character overviews for 3rd strike, would absolutely love some short 3s tips videos. 💪
I hope Blasted Salami do character overviews for all the Super Turbo II characters after he's done with the 3rd Strike characters! That'd be cool to see 🙂
WOOOOOOOOOO
this was a great series
Been waiting for Sean's video!
When I heard "Twelve" and "competitive" in the same breath, I laughed.
I'm going to hell
Twelve is *OP.*
Bro, I actually want to try him out now 😎😎😎
I got an ad for a medicine that has 12 hours pain relief, how
A wise man summed him up perfectly: "They call him twelve cause he do like twelve damage."
Dude plays like he don't belong in Street Fighter😂. Such insane moves
This is my fav character!
In an alternate timeline, Twelve is S Tier in Street Fighter 3: Fourth Knockdown
I hope there's a video on Gill just to highlight how nuts he is (despite being illegal)
I main twelve and Vega
twelve gang, twelve gang, twelve gang
Bit weird to name a character after the number neutral encounters they need to win but you do you capcom.
I have a strong belief that this character inspired Warhammer Titan in Attack on Titan. Three supporting facts:
- Weapon creation from hands (hardening ability)
- "Cables"
- White beast titan in the final part is not Zeke transforming, means it is actually inspired from XCOPY super
Not to mention, he's a walking innuendo waiting to happen.
He literally need to thousand cut/hit his opponent to win. Wow. While also need to be mindful that he himself is made of glass/fragile.
Wait, so is Sean worse than Twelve?
Spoiler for the next video, I read the linked document-
Yes. He's literally mostly just worse Ken. He does have a few fun tricks, but there's apparently confirmation that he was made a handicap character.
@@RiukuCresent Second impact Sean was too powerful that the Capcom developers went completely ballistic on nerfing him
Sean was INTENTIONALY made bad, he is without a doubt the worst in sf3 3rd strike
Twelve is basically smash bro’s Jigglypuff except the attacks hit like a form dart from a toy gun.
I misssss this song!!!! Please capcom bring us oe on modern consoles
Subbed
Damn, so Sean is worse than Twelve?
he's so much fun and his design is sweet. shame about the dmg
#TwelveforSF6
Man, there should be some balance patch version of this (maybe on MUGEN?). He looks like so much fun. Except the invisible part. I hate when people try that in a fighter.
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@@Owen-zm6sq oh, sweet. Thanks.
What if 12 had those Darkstalkers normal links?
"Links"? You mean combos? XD
@@Wazzen563
XD
I be sleeping on noodle arms
Dont worry my other my Twelve mains, Capcom will definitely release Them as a DLC fighter in SF6 😭
>max meterless combo is just cr.LK into AXE.
this poor thing....
Who does the remixes?
twelve mains are real ones. ironically every twelve I've played against are super cracked for some reason.
What is the theme used at the beginning. I know it’s a remix of his theme, but I don’t know what.
OMG
TWELVE !!
If his attacks just did more damage he would have been good. What a shame.
How can i even play the game? I only own a pc
"if you like to flap around and generally be useless and annoying though, give twelve a chance." LMAO
Twelve neutral stance is vibe
I'm lost, how do I play this game? Like platform wise, currently on pc
Fightcade
Dudes a Nonody from KH2
His normals look cool and I dare you to not have fun with an air dash; But I think flicking my Panthera's Stick at my opponent will do more damage than 12 will
Its kinda funny, Q is a terrible character made decent by his amazing defense and high damage potential, while twelve is a decent character made terrible by his inability to do any damage.
In a game where the goal is to reduce the opponents health in a 1v1 fight? Low dmg out put is a death sentence for a character
Maybe Thirteen will be better 🤷♂️
If Copy could turn you into whatever character you want (like Gill or Shin Akuma), then hot damn that would be some sauce.
Curse you competitive balancing!!! And the sheer hard on/love players have over it.
Oh and look how they massacred my boys Sean and Akuma (compared to 2nd impact).
1:04 (Glares at Chun-Li) Oh, is that a fact?
If Twelve was in a smash game. He'd easily be a Mid tier
Twelve is basically worse Jigglypuff
It's called Twelve cuz thats how many neutral interactions u need to win to do as much dmg as one Chun Li combo lmao
He's called Twelve because he dozen do no damage
I want to use the word incredibad more often
You are saying a fragile ass character who cannot even properly combo 2 normals is outright better than a bad character with function moves and 2 good supers?
Its explained in the klaw/fugo document that sean was intended to be a “handicap” character of sorts and was intentionally made bad, which is their reasoning for putting him last. Both characters have moves so minus on hit they can be punished (with supers) and both have absurdly low damage, but id say that sean arguably has more useful tools, so yeah i dont really agree there either
@@MidWestWolf1985 twelve's best punish after parry is raw sa1 or the whip hands move to sa1 and a full heavy whip hamds that does pretty solid damage for twelve,sean atleast can get some milege out of parrying,twelve gets pretty mediocre ones
Twelve mains, rise up!! #Cockmeat
eeby deeby
Twelve is suck a cool looking character
Ah yes, my favorite letter of the alphabet.
He may stink but I think he's awesome. Why do my favorite designs have crap mechanics.
UNFAIR!!!
I don't even need to play twelve to be useless and annoying :D
First?
imagine dogging on a character you dont even know how to play and just dog cuz youre making mad shortform vids for ego
Stop it. It's not up for debate. 12 is garbage. You can't have damage out put THAT LOW. And be viable in the slightest. Elena literally does the poke game he wants to do, but way better.
I'm now waiting for you guys to watch 'Leon Massey - THE Bottom Tier' and laughs for good
It's a great vid :)
@@ThatBlastedSalami it is! XD