holy shit this. I've spent at least a couple dozen hours listening to reviews about how Starflop is bad, this is more fun than I've had with a Bethesda game since Skyrim released and that was over a decade ago😂
I agree with pretty much everything that is said in this review. I gave up on Starfield after 20h of playtime. 75% of this game consists of fast traveling and loading screens.
I made it like 60 and hit the same wall. There's only like 12,000 active players now, it's getting shockingly dead. Very worried about the new Skyrim update and future Starfield plans.
The biggest myth about Starfield, (other than people suggesting that the stories have the slightest logic to them and aren’t filled with game breaking, gaping plot holes that a 10 year old should feel its intelligence being actively insulted by, I mean) is that, “You should play it for 20, 30, 40 hours before it gets good.” That’s a flat out lie. It gets way, WAY WORSE as you play on. And just WHO TF thinks it’s a good idea to promote the notion that publishers should be allowed to get away with shitting out games that aren’t entertaining inside the first hour anyway!?
@@merkbromerkington3215: This time, the problem with Bethesda’s latest game is unmoddable. You can’t come up with a mod that rewrites the basic premise of the game, its nonsense, illogical story; its bafflingly sociopathic companions; its chillingly corporate and immoral, “morality,” or just the fact that a 10 year old will point to the gaping plot holes (mine literally did) and feel insulted by the juvenile level of plotting and writing. The first question my friend’s son asked me was, “What have these people been doing for 40 years, if they’re an exploration organisation?” I asked him what he meant and he said, “They haven’t even scanned the wildlife or the plants on their homeworld, let alone logged and studied them. They’re literally on their doorstep!” And it was one massive plot hole after another from there. None of it makes any sense. There’s no internal logic to Starfield’s world.
@@johndodo2062 That’s funny I’ve got a hundred plus hours in and really enjoying the exploration. I love trying to get all the Flora, Fauna and unique items to each planet. Plus, every once in a while you stumble upon a large cave system with space spiders or something. Bethesda really worked hard those eight years to give us such a large galaxy to explore, I’m loving it!
Bethesda is what happens when parents keep allowing their children’s terrible paintings on the fridge. At some point you have got to say, “No sweetheart, you’re 56 and you still can’t color in the lines. You’re a terrible artist and we’re sorry for not being honest with you sooner.”
bethesda made some master pieces back in the day. but were over looked becasue the scale of the game they were building wasnt the most common then (they deffinately had massive games then too. but now every thing is open world with multi choice so there is not a reason for theirs to be buggy as all hell and as bland as british food. (if you call what the british eat food)
I was kinda hyped but knew it would be a coin toss of if was good or terrible. I had low expectations and was disappointed. I love all the elder scrolls games and was hoping they had learned from their mistakes and successes.
Overhyping always leads to unrealistic expectations which in turn leads to dissapointment. This has been proven on multiple occasions and people don’t seem to have learned anything from it.
I encountered a Terrormorph on Kreet, the very first planet you go to with Vascoe to stop the pirates from attacking you. There was an abandoned lab on the planet and I ran over to it after killing the pirates. Later I realized that POI was just a procedurally generated POI when I started the UC questline and it killed any immersion in that quest for me. The NPCs go into describing the terrormorphs like they're some big bad I had never encountered. I was thoroughly disappointed when I realized I had already killed one at the very start of the game. It was the moment I realized there was really nothing left for me to discover in SF, and I was only 50 hours into the game.
Had this same experience only it was on Akila at the very beginning of the game. I was looking forward to more of these monster encounters, only to discover none would happen until I did the UC questline. Don't even get me started on how few terramorphs I encountered on Londinion. The writing and dialog made it sounds like there would be legions of terramorphs But no. And Londiinion was suppose to be some quarantine zone locking all those terramorphs in the city. But once I got there, I could just walk right out of that city. And so could the terramorphs if they had a mind to. So lame and disappointing.
"...developers are almost afraid to give romance-able characters a defined sexuality" Tell you haven't played Cyberpunk 2077 without telling me you haven't played Cyberpunk 2077. Otherwise this is a thorough and appreciated review. Bugs aside - CDPR has set the new gold standard for open-world action/RPG following 2.0, as have Larian for the legacy style CRPG. Someone press F for Bethesda. Gone but not forgotten.
The Ranger thing is a great example of a missed opportunity. Imagine, for example, if being a Ranger created new dialogue and quest completion options. Maybe people who find out you are a Ranger might have different reactions or expectations about you. Maybe the Rangers can help you by providing forensic support in some cases. Maybe the Rangers will come after you if you sully their name by carrying out evil actions. There is a lot they could have done.
There are so many engine problems that trying to keep the game stable while also modifying it to do what you want it to do is obnoxious. Bonus points when Bethesda pushes an update to the game, which in turn breaks most, if not all, of your mods until the mod authors are able to update them... if they even decide to update them at all.
Yeah, even as someone who is enjoying the hell out of Starfield. I am not looking forward to trying to mod it. Bethesda said they are going to be updating this more than any of their other games. And all that means is that modding will be a nightmare for years to come. I find it funny how the GOG release of Fallout 4 literally advertises that it won't force you to update when the next-gen patch comes out. @@DWTerminator
If they did a good we wouldn't have to mod it would we. In this case with Starfield we need to mod it into a new game. Mods are great and all but not even they can fix this crap. You can mod this all you want it's still going to suck.😏
@@roserevancroix2308 Oh I agree. The game is fundamentally broken in a way that games like Skyrim or Fallout 4 were not. The choice of randomly generated planets doomed this game in a way that mods can't fix. Even if someone made one really good hand-crafted planet, or a great quest that would not fix the game as a whole. I was just talking about new gun mods and stuff like that. I don't expect every random gun mod to keep updated with Starfield if they start dropping a ton of updates and DLC.
The fact that every dead-eyed NPC is dead center both horizontally and vertically during dialogue just highlights how phoned-in and copy-pasted the whole thing is. If you're not sure what I mean here, play Baldur's Gate 3 for 15 min.
I deleted the game after 20h. As much as i didnt like Fallout 4, it got me going because of the exploration. I also somehow really enjoyed the settlement building. All the junk you picked up was also useful. Here the outposts are useless, just get some credits and buy all the resources you need. The exploration is dead. The moment that i turned the game off and unsinstalled it was when i was on a planet, and decided to check some ship wreckage point of interest. It was EXACTLY the same as the one ive seen like 1 hour earlier, It had the same items, in the same exact position laying around. Like, how lazy can you get. It felt like im being trolled. Not even gonna mention the fantastic Bethesda writing and quest design. How can a company not learn and evolve, instead every next product they produce is worse then the last one, this is the worst Bethesda game. Absolutely soulless.
I feel like this game might be decent once the modders have filled up the empty space you need like 500+ mods or something. Bethesda releasing RPG maker again.
Unfortunately what they’ve learned is that they can KEEP DOING THIS. I mean they STILL have a loyal base of fanboys who will defend this garbage to the end. And even worse they seem to have a very effective system of enticing content creators to basically sell this garbage for them and once it’s sold try and console their victims with moral support. Hype and sell. Hype and sell. Then abandon. Let the modders take over. Our job is done and we got paid. Fuck y’all. And we keep asking for more. I personally don’t think we are ever going to see anything decent from Bethesda again. But I feel like it’s important to hold their feet to the fire and refuse ok this type of release. They struck gold w their Xbox deal. Cashed in. Phoned in the development of this game. And will spend the majority of the next cycle trying to hype their next disaster. Not developing it. But coming up with a marketing plan.
Fully agree, Been getting worse and worse with every game since Skyrim, even then older fans will argue Skyrim was already taking steps back from Morrowind.
It's even worse than you think with the romance options. I specifically refused to flirt with Sarah until she initiated any actual interest first and got through all of her questing until the point where they just starkly ask you to choose friendship or romance. This all after, again, I choose no flirtation lines and she never got flirty with me. I chose romance and then her dialogue makes it seem as if I'd be pining for her this entire time and she was falling for me.
That *is* worse than I thought. I figured they wouldn't be so absurdly incompetent as to not require you to use the flirt options leading up to the big companion quest, so I didn't even test that. Bethesda never ceases to amaze me with their rapid descent into awfulness.
When I was in like fourth grade they had these choose your own adventure books. They were written far better than any storyline or quest line in this farce.
This reminded me of that time I wanted to marry an argonian woman at some town I found while exploring in Skyrim, went through the trouble of getting the ring that makes marriage possible, just to have the RADIANT AI mess everything up and not making the option for that NPC available. How do they keep screwing these things up.
If they stuck to handcrafted content in space, the contrast between being indoors and in the vacuum of space could have been a sick contrast. I remember clearly mass effect pulling it off when you have to space walk through a part of the ship thats been torn away. Like youre fighting enemies with all the sounds then you end up in vacuum and now have to fight those enemies in near silence.
Just 10 handcrafted planets, each with an area 1/3rd to 1/2 the size of Skyrim. And make it about finding out about the creators of the artifacts, not a lame multiverse to DE-incentivizes doing side content as you lose almost everything each time you travel to a "new" universe that's 99.999999999% identical to all the others.
I couldn't get past the tech issues and I'm glad you addressed this, I feel like it's THE most important part of building a modern game of this sort and it is totally holding them back. As soon as I saw the trailers, I knew that they had been lazy about updating their engine/tech stack. I loaded into the game expecting jank, and the scripted initial cut-scene seemed ok, seemed modern.... for a second I thought I was wrong, and then when the lift stopped and we stepped off into the mines, I immediately saw the cracks opening up. The sad thing is, this game has already been done, it's called The Outer Worlds, and it was done in Unreal Engine and felt 10 times better than Creation Engine does.
Same. When i first started i saw the being lift cutscene and thought if they kept io with this conversation and cutscene style and feeling of quality that it was going to be promising. It did not.
Modders shouldn't need to keep fixing Bethesda's damn games. Bethesda nees a collective kick up the arse from the community as they finally get their act together and learn how to release quality.
When I joined the fleet at the end of the legacy quest I got the message that I was now enemies with the UC. I thought they would be permently hostile and was completely disappointed when the quest was over and we were OK all of a sudden.
You know what's crazy, according to a gamesradar article about startfield Phil Spencer he sat down with Todd and i think other Bethesda people and told them to delay starfield to 2023 instead of releasing in 2022 which Bethesda had originally planned on before Microsoft bought the company. He made a joke that tons of xbox's were being for q&a were running starfield. It's insane to me that after so many years of working with gambryo and it's creation derivatives that Bethesda seemingly can't even program with it properly. For so many years I've heard that Bethesda changing engines would be a bad idea because of having to relearn everything and that their main problem is treating polishing and bug fixing like an afterthought, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it's a combination of spaghetti code, tech debt, and Bethesda's own culture of laziness lack of ambition has finally started to catch up with them combined with the release of BG3 actually SHOWING what a proper role playing game is that much of the general public have realized that Bethesda offers jack shit compared to other companies.
Mods will not save this game, because of how it is built. The worldbuilding is limited to the quests. This isn't Skyrim where you can crawl out of Helgen and immediately ignore any quest to do your own thing for 150 hours, because there is nothing to do outside of what has been placed into the game for quest design. So unless you like staring at the same dozen buildings and fight the same four types of humans in them, or like building outposts that have no purpose aside from producing resources, questing is all you have. Any mod that would enhance the gameplay would do that for the quests. And the quests are insanely bad for all the reasons you mentioned.
I think they make the companions bisexual because if they defined a sexual orientation for them they would lock a decent chunk of a particular companion's content away for a particular play through. They're not being PC they're just ensuring that the content they did bother to make is always available to the player.
Always like your content for the simple fact you are the few people who understand the necessity of role playing in a rpg and to correctly identify what it is lol
Todd gives us stun weapons, but they're inconsistent. He gives us brig habs for our ship, but no way to apprehend bounties alive. It's like Todd wants us to play murderous psychopaths.
They built a broad foundation for expansion. I expect all of these things will be implemented over time. For now there is certainly enough to enjoy, and I'm excited about what is yet to come.
If anything I feel it’s the opposite FO4 and this game make it almost impossible to play as an evil character all your companions in this game fall into either “lawful good” or “neutral good”
I think all the unkillable characters actually make it feel more psychopathic.. It divides the world into “disposable people” (workers, grunts) and “non-disposable” people (CEOs that just casually proposed mass murder and slavery) .. So you have to choose one of their three options because the writers decided they will just shrug off any number of bullets pumped into their heads, and then your comrades will tell you “oh well.. couldn’t be helped.”. I think I will wait for Starfield New Vegas.
@@Drez47 yes but for me it's small things especially if theirs many of them add up to being a bigger deal than some blatantly broken things. Bethesda hasn't made a good game in over 10 years at this point so I'm not surprised this one is underwhelming as well.
Mainly because of his controversial views on some popular games. Not too many people enjoy hearing their favorite games so heavily scrutinized. Though I tend to agree with him so it doesn't bother me. Also I have thick skin when it comes to others' opinions.
@@Drez47 He might be overdramatic, or other people are just too much fanboys, and don't really analyze this game with the proper scrutiny, just because it is Bethesda.
I’ve watched basically all the big UA-camrs do reviews for Starfield and this is the best review I’ve seen. I also could feel your anger/disappointment as the review went on because I feel the same way about the game. Starfield is infuriating and you’re 100% correct it’s a CATASTROPHIC failure of a game. Bethesda have proven they are incompetent. Will not buy ES6 unless it gets rave reviews by real people and not the outlets.
At least CDPR had the balls to make every single romance-able character in Cyberpunk have their own sexual preference. Judy wont sleep with you if you’re a male V. Panam won’t sleep with you if you’re a female V. It’s a very minor touch but it really does go a long way to truly establish those characters as real people. Granted that sort of thing is CDPRs bread and butter so it definitely expected of them. Not Bethesda unfortunately.
I mean, Bethesda's idea of romance is "I've watched you pick locks on doors and containers a few times so clearly we're soul mates," so I wasn't expecting much from them to begin with. They still somehow managed to make that worse.
One of Bethesda's problems is they don't believe in locking people out of content. They dumb it down so everyone can experience everything. Factions, romance, quests.
That question to Todd about why isnt this game optimised for PC, he was caught off gaurd with that one hence the pause and Phillip the boy spencer having a giggles at howards expense, absolute magic was that, gan on Todd " This is a nxt gen game maybe ya need to upgrade your PC for this one" absolute quality ,theres games over 10 years old that are more deserved of that title.
It's a smart play. Bethesda gets fresh talent. Modders get actual paid employment for their hard work (because let's face it, modding is addictive and they will do it regardless)
but they are just adding shit on and not fixing the base engine and it is not paying off. A big corporate deal isnt the win you think it is@@RandomWandrer
Best Starfield review . Totally nailed it. Basically they phoned it in. It’s essentially a game geared towards 8 year olds. And maybe that’s their plan. Make a game that’s babies first space game. Then when those kids grow up they’ll be BSG fans. Idk. I do not understand a grown man or woman being able to get past the atrocious dialogue. Great review tho! Very thorough!
@@OrangeNashjust curious, do you like rift apart? I've been considering getting it for a good couch game. If it was on GeForce now I would have already.
@@skaetur1I hope it was smoking drugs and fuvking hookers. Cuz anything else and I’m like you guys suck. But tell me you’re all sex and drug addicts and maybe I’ll forgive ya. But I have a feeling they weren’t doing shiz
Fantastic review. You hit every nail on the head. I cannot believe how BAD Starfield turned out... I doubt I'll ever play it again which is saying a lot. I've been playing Skyrim for 13 years. Elder Scrolls 6 will almost certainly be dogsh*t and I'll be 40 when it releases, that's if the world isn't destroyed by then... I won't care about ES6. I already don't now. Entertainment as a whole is dead. The world's on fire. Screw Bethesda and their ESG score. They made a universe where I would cheer for the reapers. It's an absolute waste of time to play and arguably an objectively bad experience.
I agree entirely, my love for gaming has been dwindling for a few years now, and ive finally hit my breaking point of honesty losing interest in video games. Theyre all about making money and nobody is trying to deliver a good experience anymore. Its fucking sad and i too think entertainment is dead.
It use to be passionate gamers making games. Most of these devs have left companies like blizzard and bethesda to either create their own studios, or dropped out completely. It seems like the new devs aren't very passionate about games with a mix of stakeholder pressure in these companies to pressure deadlines. It's just a job to them.
I can't help but wonder how many of the "new" devs went through game development education programs. From what I've been seeing, those outright *teach* their students to make crappy games and treat the player like a complete moron.
This is true of every artform or medium once it gains a certain level of mass appeal. The future of the games industry is the the movie industry, the music industry, etc. @@DWTerminator
Another big thing the game is missing is sentient alien species. One of my favorite things from their early games was the ability to play as and interact with non-human characters. Even though I always play as a Breton. lol
Incredible and baffling this game came from the same devs who made Morrowind, one of the most immersive RPG's where player agency is respected and you can absolutely lock yourself out of quests because choices do matter in that game. A game which had smart quest writing and dialogue, because it expects a certain level of cognitive ability from the player.
It is kind of funny that Constellation is so goody-goody, yet the only reason to follow through on the whole relic gathering thing is so you can gain power. Which is basically an evil motif, the origin story of some kind super-villain or galactic emperor/sorcerer. If left alone, the Starborn would have gathered up the relics and moved on to a NG+, leaving the galaxy alone. So, off you go on a quest for personal power... while being constantly looked down upon for doing anything slightly non-good. On the whole, it just seems like when designing the game, they forgot to ask the two most crucial questions: "Is this fun?" and, "How can we can change it to make it (even more) so?"
During my play through I realised the “depth” of NPC dialogue. I walked past a guard in my sweet new security armour. This guard was NOT wearing armour. Her line? “You really should get some security armour” …
This reloading problem at weapon change occurs in other way when you are base building. Once you built hundreds of containers and set ship to your interlinks, the game checks EVERY single container EVERY time a ship is landing. No matter where in the universe you are, you get constant freezes Lasting SECONDS. It really just breaks your game. Once you just turn off interlinks, all is gone back to normal. What a nice feature 🎉
I found out about the weapon stuttering issue too late, my entire inventory were legendaries. I was carrying 19 weapons, 17 were legendary. As well as my whole gear setup being legendary. Soooo yeah; I can see why I was lagging so hard. It isn’t as bad now though.
I don't have the words to describe how much I hated this game. I paid the $100 for early access and it wasn't money well spent. I didn't have any performance issues on the xbox; the problem is just how bad the game is.
this game is what i will call a youtube or tv show game, which means you watch youtube or a tv show in the background to pass the time, and the fact i do agree with DWT about an over haul of this game, is why i have yet to get this game, i might ask for this game for christmas this year, hopefully by then some of the problems have bin ironed out
@@pacmikey1763In fairness, this translates to $113.97 USD and keep in mind, Australian prices include tax unlike the States, so it's basically the same price for the premium version, just with different units of currency.
Honestly, after thinking about the Pilgrim's notes a bit (specifically their comment on how jumping between universes *is not fulfilling*), the weird way the gamespace is designed, and the way that the mechanics combine... I really think the game wants to incentivise slow play. As such, I reckon I benefited from barely having time to play Starfield at launch. I could never game for more than an hour or two at a time, once every couple of days. So I ended up taking everything pretty slow, spending time in single locations rather than grav-jumping between objectives rapidly, and being pretty happy to sink an entire play session into putting a ship together or fiddling with outposts. Unfortunately, that's also where a lot of weird choices in game design jumped out at me. The absolutely lacklustre "no consequences for your quest decisions" thing. The bizzare gating of quality-of-life features and furniture (like storage) behind pretty investment-heavy perks. The UI design, the inability to remove the weirdly condescending pop-up tips, the way that the game bugs out and resets interiors of ships and player homes, including the contents of containers (and some display furniture doesn't even work). The emptiness of the galaxy. The utter lack of model variants for unique weapons and armour. The way that a lot of loot tables (like mannequins in the wild) are bugged. The weird hivemind-goody-two-shoes-morality of all the companions, despite them being written as very different people. It feels like a game that, in three or four years, will have had enough patches, DLC, and mods (both quality of life and content-based) will be something I can sink dozens of hours into. A nice big sandbox full of stuff, easily able to fit the sheer variety of content that modders like to cram into megapacks - something the old worlds of Fallout and Elder Scrolls never really could accomodate without feeling a bit weird. That said, I didn't mind the floatiness of the main quests and lack of "ending". I think Bethesda put a lot more effort into the "side" quests based around factions, locations, and npcs. The way most people ended up playing Skyrim and Fallout really did ignore the main quest, so I'm not too surprised they went in this direction. I also didn't mind the "choose between your two favourite Constellation companions" moment. I wasn't actually expecting Bethesda to commit to killing off a companion character, and was pleasantly surprised when it tied into the Emmisary's identity too. I didn't view it as "cheap", just kind of interesting. Solid and comprehensive review, as always. Definitely think that a big split in player response has been between slow players and rapid/completionist players.
Funny you mentioned the doors/ladders in the ship builder are random. I hate it. Every time it makes me go around the long way because that's where it put the doors/ladders. There's always a better setup, but you can't have it because Bethesda wants it to be randomized.
I ran into a single other instance where you can use your Ranger status. It was a dialogue option during the UC questline, when you have to talk to the Freestar ambassador... and it did absolutely nothing. It's truly pathetic.
You know what this game reminds me of, Basically every Star Wars and Marvel Show you see on Disney plus. A season that's 8 hours long that could be boiled down into 1 hour.
There's an awful lot of padding in pretty much all entertainment these days. TV shows, movies (especially), even games are often *far* longer than they should be. They're trying to keep people watching/playing as long as possible rather than making the experience worthwhile to begin with. In particular, games are incentivized to do this in the hopes that players will stick around and engage with the microtransactions, buy the battle pass, etc... though Starfield has no excuse for it since it's singleplayer and doesn't have any of that crap (yet).
Totally correct on Bethesda's writing. The placing of the Terrormorph attack so close to the meeting about Terrormorphs almost made me want to quit the game. It's obviously a set up to influence the board. A set up that the highly critical board doesn't even question. It totally ruined the plot for me. You know where this is going and are not surprised when it finally does. I also guessed at the Heat leeches as well. Although those large larvae that are always creeping around had me guessing them as well, but maybe they're the larval stage of a Heat leech.
This game was proof that current bethesda has nothing of the charm that made their old and buggy games worth playing. The people that made that company what it was already left.
Really not sure what you're talking about since I don't bring up Megaton there, and Megaton definitely has a trader. She's a complete moron like pretty much everyone else in that game, of course, but she's still a trader.
Ah the worldbuilding issues. Should've been more clear on that since "Megaton doesn't have a trader" doesn't convey that. Frankly the lack of food is the *least* of Megaton's problems. The more you look at FO3 in general, the more completely it falls apart.
It's kinda funny how there's people who hate Starfield but love Skyrim and Fallout 4. To me, Starfield is the same but without the walking 🤷♀️ guess aesthetics makes a huge difference for some 🤔
You know what's actual biggest downer for me about Starfield? It's that Fallout is more Sci-Fi than Starfield. In Fallout you don't just have lasers, hell no. You got power armor, plasmaguns, genetic engineering, portable nuclear reactors, teleporters, actually useable helicopters and other stuff that I forgot to mention too. In Satrfield it's like: "Oh... right! So, all of the cool things, like mechs and power armor, and tanks, all of that exists, it's just against some bullshit war convention so it's all locked up and now we are all a bunch of cartoony 21st century NASA spacemen." Imagine you could just carry around with you a battlemech and play discount MechWarrior whenever you feel like you don't wanna just shoot everyone. Imagine if instead of landing in a designated spot every time, you could just choose a spot on the map and your ship would drop you there in a drop pod. It really doesn't feel like anyone except Todd cared about this game what-so-ever.
Please tell me the inventory reading thing is inaccurate. Please tell me. I don’t want to believe that they’d brute force such a basic software engineering problem.
It would have been a lot better immediately with just one solar system, but all planets filled with hand-crafted locations. But the limitations of space AND on-foot travel would still have hurt the immersion a lot.
So Bethesda polished the turd along with begrudgingly putting in some work to make their new release not look like a reskinned Fallout 476 in the near release gameplay showcases... wonderful. I don't know why but somehow I expected that Starfield will have at least one thing kind of OK, at least it seemed like they are really hard at work with this game, surely the story and gameplay cannot be a failure across the board, and yet here we are, once again the verdict is: back to the drawing board... What a "story" too, I don't know when I facepalm laughed harder, when I heard that you will get "powers", or when the word "multiverse" registered in my brain. Now that's one hell of a writing team there ! 1:15:37 well that's a pretty good demonstration as to why companions are still only good for being packing mules, although the very natural, organic reaction at 48:23 also tells me what you can expect from any kind of interaction with them. For the sequel they really should add the option to choose as a companion a cargo carrying robot that hides if you enter combat and save everyone the trouble. Bethesda and firearms knowledge, yep nothing seems to have changed in this respect. Oh, and so much for the improved gunplay, it's the same trash from before as far as I can tell. And seeing that you have 1400+ and 1700+ reserve ammunition for that white DMR/LMG looking thing also tells me pretty much everything about the resource managment, the game might as well have health regeneration and infinite ammunition, and stop with the ridiculous charade. And instead of adding bookmarks to the inventory, so once you open it you can click on the letter S for instance, and quickly get to your items that start with S, now you have to jump in and out of multiple inventories, excellent. Well, thanks for going through with this, it is certainly a very entertaining video. I hope the expansions wash the taste of this out of your mouth, because just looking at this game at times felt bad.
one thing that I never got used to was that stupid XP counter that they decided the best place for it was in the center of the screen, or that some guns have an ammo counter/indicator on them yet the game feels the need to display the ammo again anyway with the quests you can almost tell when the designer putting it together is less familiar/flexible with the engine. I've had quests unusually play out using the engine's own rules (a giant alien killed a quest giver with nothing on my part to contribute to it) only for the game to decide that this NPC can't die, and then they thanked me the killing the alien that I never even saw until it was dead. Some quests require you to have a certain type of outfit equipped, but then some suggest that you do but then they pedal back on it later in the same dialogue that to suggests to me that line was added once they couldn't get the scripting to work properly. it took me a while of just skipping dialogue, ignoring companions and weapons to just go around punching people into ragdolls that there's barely any role playing in this game either, the level up screen is just an upgrade menu and because of NG+ i realised the only actual RPG elements of "completing faction quests can lock you out of other factions" is completely thrown out. I imagine later on they'll be a DLC where you break the cycle and actual get an ending, where your character will get to say an outdated meme as their final words. It's weird that they decided to go with the "25 years in the making" thing yet the final product seems to lack identity after all this time. Maybe they meant it in the same way as I could pull out a game design document I made in college and call it "12 years in the making", it doesn't really mean anything.
Wow, reading the comments is entertaining. People are saying they are enjoying exploring a mostly copy and paste game are the same people that watch the same movie 20 times in a week like its the first time they are watching it. They are the same people who have thousands of hours in a game that can be completed in a few hours.
So it basically looks like Bethesda have released a shell of a game and expect modders to fix, polish and finish it. I do not have high hopes for Elder Scrolls 6.
Yeah I don’t know what he was saying about cities showing farming etc was lacking I’m no it’s there. Like outside of Akila city there are farms as well.
I am subbing to your Patreon bc you have been the only person in any starfield review that has explained the failure of BGS with the creation engine. It would have been much better if they actually updated it, they don't need a new engine. They need new management. Also are you me from another universe? Bc this is pretty much the exact points I bring up when talking about this game.
Wow, very impressive work. Thank you. I deliberately avoided any news or review about Starfield once I knew you were working on your review. So I went into this with the idea that it might be good. First, it's incredible to hear that they released a buggy game again. How can they just get away with this??? This is unbelievable! The game seems incredibly bland an boring. What a waste. I think we an now finally give up any hope Bethesda will ever release anything decent. They just don't care and won't do any effort.
I love the idea that the settlements are small due to game size limitations. And I remember back in 2003 all of the games that had you play in cities that felt absolutely massive, Jack and daxter 2, Any final fantasy city, KOTOR. And then I also remember Bethesda touting that new Atlantis is the biggest city they've ever made. But in reality its only the biggest by maybe a few square yards. And absolutely microscopic in size for any space faring civilizations capitol.
@@main1033 How about it? Its a 3 year old game. It has way more technical flexibility than games from 20 years ago. Its scope is relatively small. GTA5, a relatively large city, that feels like a genuine city. But compare Night City to the sprawl of Mirrors edge, or Deus Ex. My point is that we're not actually leveraging hardware and technology advancements to make bigger cities work better. Were using it for superficial stuff that isnt worth it and no one can actually utilize, namely, ray tracing.
The cowboy faction did it for me, above all the galaxy-famous "Rangers". There is the option to ask how many Rangers are out there: 12. No, not 12'000 which is a small amount of people when it comes to a multi-planet civilisation, no.....TWELVE! Then it became clear to me, those rangers are the minutemen from Fallout. This might work in a post-apocalyptic depopulized world, but not in a world where you supposed to believe that there are huge cities and many colonized planets. You are also supposed to believe that the cowboys who have barely nothing but some wild west huts have had a stalemate in a war against the pendant of the United Federation of Planets. I uninstalled the game when the sheriff of this cow-village came to me and asked if i could investigate whats going on near Miss Wilsons (or whatever name she had) farm.."ok", i thought, "lets go have a look, where is her farm?". It turns out, her farm is on another moon. Whats the population of all new colonies together? 80 or so? This is so dumb, the whole universe of Starfield makes no sense at all. Oh, and there is nothing to explore as mankind is already in EVERY system you visit and on every planet, there are already manmade installations, populated by pirates yes, but it means that other humans already found it before you did. You don't "discover" Paris f.e. when you drive there by train, seems there is simply no wikipedia or google in the future where you can simply search for whats in system xy. That was enough, not worth for any more painfull loading screens for that.
There are examples throughout the video, though it may not be completely obvious at first glance since so much of the game is recycled content that all just bleeds together. For example, when I talk about the Ryujin Industries questline, the gameplay being shown is of that questline. Same for the other questlines.
Don’t forget about the laziness of exploring old prison or nasa colonies that got frozen up or back in time and see that the same weapons the same outfits he’ll even the same tech is the exact same from the time line you are playing in
@@DWTerminatorthe level of incompetence from Bethesda is baffling their are some things in the game that are so bad I honestly can’t tell if they were trolling the player base or not
Also funny that you would mention Mass effect because thinking about it Starfield gives you a Virmire situation except the 2 companions you have to choose between are chosen depending on affinity and they give you a Miranda situation with the woman who is a clone/genetically edited version of Vae Victis. Might be complete coincidence of course.
Man, I appreciate your video, truly. I've watched many reviewers, you're the one pointing out the culture some fans are fermenting by not holding Bethesda accountable for their own games. Every faulty release we have some people saying that mods will fix it and fail to criticize Bethesda. More people need to see this.
One of the few times pre ordering a game didn't bite me in the butt. I bought the ultimate edition for early access and thankfully because of it, I got a refund with 20hours played still in early access. Dunno if that is cause of Australian consumer protection laws or steam knew this game was a dog and was just giving everyone refunds. Perfect game pass game IMO. But nowhere NEAR worth the $170 AUD they were asking for it.
I think Valve's more lenient with refunds on pre-release builds. That said, I know AUD is worth 64% of USD right now, but $170 AUD is fucking insulting. It's infuriating enough at $70 USD, let alone $100 for the "premium" edition... and you're paying the equivalent of around $108 USD.
That's a good thing about steam. If you bought the premium like I did, and got the early release. It was counted as early access. Steam allows refunds of early access games no matter the playtime.
What has battered me ever since the lunch of Starfield Is the fact that they put so much attention to going into new game plus, which naturally nullifies any consequences of your actions and at the same time they make so many - not even essential - NPCs not killable. I don't understand this approach because they've basically created a game where you wouldn't even need to do any quests in order to finish it, while at the same time boxing you in on every occasion. Starfield literally has more reasons to be like Fallout New Vegas than New Vegas does itself, wtf.
1:40:57 I have a different perception of the persuasion system. At first, I liked the implementation, but when I started leveling up the persuasion perks, the system ended up disappointing me because it becomes incredibly easy. When you have all 4 points in persuasion, it's practically impossible to fail persuasion, and this is mainly due to the rule 'If your last persuasion attempt was successful, then you can continue persuading the NPC.' In simple terms, this means that you always have to choose the green option. The green option with all 4 perk points has almost a 95% chance of success. If the NPC requires 8 points to be persuaded, you just have to select the option that gives you +1 eight times, and since you never fail that option, you can repeat it indefinitely.
Excellent review as always, even better than your Fallout 4 review! I had very low expectations about Starfield to begin with, and when I saw other people playing the game, it only confirmed my predictions that it would be a bland and boring game. It seems that Bethesda took the worst aspects of their past games, i.e. the repetitive exterior and dungeon designs, and put it into Starfield without making it any better. It's a shame also that they still can't make any seamless transitions, whereas Gothic 1 was able to load everything continuously and it came out before Morrowind. I thought that this game may have been Outer Worlds but bigger and not written as well. But I guess it seems that Outer Worlds was the better space RPG after all, though that may not be saying much. With all that said, good luck on your next reviews! I'll certainly be looking forward to your reviews of the DLCs for Amid Evil and Ion Fury as well as your full Cyberpunk 2077 review.
I'm in general agreement with you but k don't understand how you can prefer this building system over fallout 4. Fallout 4 wasn't anything to write home about, but i pretty much ended up ragequitting trying use the Starfield system
It's not *massively* improved over FO4's building but it's definitely a bit more refined. The overhead camera for the outpost building in Starfield helps a fair bit, as does the fact that you're not having to build around existing structures right from the get-go. Like most things in Starfield, however, the controls for it are clunky and the interface is terrible, so I can see why you'd get pissed off at it.
@@DWTerminator Aside from the absolutely inexcusable ui/controls, its also just extremely limited compared to fallout 4. You can't place foundations, you cant place walls, you cant populate your base beyond a few people, you cant accurately rotate anything, the snapping system is aggressive to the point of it being something you are constantly fighting rather than it actually being helpful. I mean yea fallout 4 could be frustrating aswell, but atleast I could build cool stuff with it.. starfield is even more frustrating and you barely have any creative freedom... Like how am I supposed to build a cool base when all I can do is place a bunch of premade buildings in a field? Sorry for venting, but man.. Who on earth playtested this thing?
To be fair: the vast majority of planets don't have breathable atmospheres. Going with sealed habs rather than standard buildings just makes more sense. The snap-to system was janky as hell in FO4 so they overcompensated on it with Starfield. It works better now but the controls are still clunky, hence the feeling that it's overly aggressive. As I mentioned in the video, switching to gamepad when building helps out quite a bit. Keyboard object rotation is frustratingly imprecise. It's much easier to do that with the gamepad. Why they did it this way, I don't really know. How are you supposed to build a cool base? You aren't. As I mentioned, it's abundantly clear that outposts only exist to produce resources for your crafting and research. As for who playtested it, I have no idea. They clearly didn't give Bethesda the feedback they actually need, though.
A few questions: 1. Is this game straight up unplayable without the UI pointing every enemy out with their healthbar? I can't see jack in some parts of the video. That seems like a massive art direction issue. 2. With the evergreen topic of Bethesda vs Obsidian, there's been a few discussions comparing Starfield to The Outer Worlds. Considering what you said about this game and how utterly average if disappointing TOW is to the point you weren't even going to properly review it, do you think the games are comparable at all despite their disparate differences?
A friend of mine asked me what I thought of Starfield. I said it's pretty much a full conversion mod of Fallout 4. Which I wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened.
The companions in the game certainly remind me of a lot of the Skyrim companion mods I've used. From the cringe romance dialogue to the giving me useless shit to the fawning over the PC, it feels like they just took notes from mods to create the companions in SF.
@DWTerminator oh none whatsoever. I was about 20 hrs in, and I couldn't take it anymore. I got tired of the constant loading screens and the constant conversations with characters that all have a thousand yard stare and dialog I didn't care about. So I went back to Cyberpunk.
Good lord, i zoned out watching this video focusing primarily on your gameplay. Its either 1 shot kills or 10 clips from 3 different guns. The only thing consistent was you standing still to shoot the enemies lol. it looked like a rail shooter 😂
Agree with everything you said. Also, have to love how many story lines were direct rip offs from other ip's. Touching the artifact gives visions- Mass Effect, get to the center of the galaxy/unity - No Man's Sky, Vae Victus living in the basement prison (if you let him live) giving you missions to go after other bad guys - Blacklist, Hunter - Agent Smith clone, planet full of clones of old Earth leaders - og Star Trek, lost pre-warp colony ship - a couple of Star Trek episodes, the whole Freestar Rangers questline - episode of Justified, etc. And so many others. How about not having an inventory system or even sorting the inventory on your Outposts so you have to go box to box searching for your resources. The game could have been a good game, you could see the grand vision they originally had but for some reason they truncated story lines, dumbed things down or just abandoned ideas. Whether it was bad management, incompetence or laziness, or all of the above, we'll never know but something that could have been memorable turned out meh.
The best thing about Starfield's release is how good we're eating with all the reviews ripping it to shreds
holy shit this. I've spent at least a couple dozen hours listening to reviews about how Starflop is bad, this is more fun than I've had with a Bethesda game since Skyrim released and that was over a decade ago😂
I agree with pretty much everything that is said in this review.
I gave up on Starfield after 20h of playtime.
75% of this game consists of fast traveling and loading screens.
Thank god the outpost thing isnt mandatory to finish the game. Tediousest tedious thing ever.
I made it like 60 and hit the same wall. There's only like 12,000 active players now, it's getting shockingly dead. Very worried about the new Skyrim update and future Starfield plans.
The biggest myth about Starfield, (other than people suggesting that the stories have the slightest logic to them and aren’t filled with game breaking, gaping plot holes that a 10 year old should feel its intelligence being actively insulted by, I mean) is that, “You should play it for 20, 30, 40 hours before it gets good.” That’s a flat out lie. It gets way, WAY WORSE as you play on. And just WHO TF thinks it’s a good idea to promote the notion that publishers should be allowed to get away with shitting out games that aren’t entertaining inside the first hour anyway!?
@@merkbromerkington3215: This time, the problem with Bethesda’s latest game is unmoddable. You can’t come up with a mod that rewrites the basic premise of the game, its nonsense, illogical story; its bafflingly sociopathic companions; its chillingly corporate and immoral, “morality,” or just the fact that a 10 year old will point to the gaping plot holes (mine literally did) and feel insulted by the juvenile level of plotting and writing.
The first question my friend’s son asked me was, “What have these people been doing for 40 years, if they’re an exploration organisation?” I asked him what he meant and he said, “They haven’t even scanned the wildlife or the plants on their homeworld, let alone logged and studied them. They’re literally on their doorstep!” And it was one massive plot hole after another from there.
None of it makes any sense. There’s no internal logic to Starfield’s world.
Yeap
Starfield is indeed a combination of all Bethesda games limitations, but without the bright side ( meaningful exploration and discovery)
I’m having a great time exploring Starfield
@@TheChenny73no you aren't. There is no exploration
@@johndodo2062 That’s funny I’ve got a hundred plus hours in and really enjoying the exploration. I love trying to get all the Flora, Fauna and unique items to each planet. Plus, every once in a while you stumble upon a large cave system with space spiders or something. Bethesda really worked hard those eight years to give us such a large galaxy to explore, I’m loving it!
@@TheChenny73you’re a simpleton then. How old are you? If you’re ten or twelve I’ll forgive you. If you’re an actual adult I feel sorry for you.
@@TheChenny73 Please tell me you're being sarcastic. There's no way anything you said is genuine.
Bethesda is what happens when parents keep allowing their children’s terrible paintings on the fridge. At some point you have got to say,
“No sweetheart, you’re 56 and you still can’t color in the lines. You’re a terrible artist and we’re sorry for not being honest with you sooner.”
bethesda made some master pieces back in the day. but were over looked becasue the scale of the game they were building wasnt the most common then (they deffinately had massive games then too. but now every thing is open world with multi choice so there is not a reason for theirs to be buggy as all hell and as bland as british food. (if you call what the british eat food)
holy based
I really don't understand how anybody was hyped for this, Bethesda fans suffer almost as much from Stockholm syndrome as Blizzard defenders
I wasn't hyped at all after FO76 but been having fun with it anyway. Bought it expecting fallout in space, got fallout in space
I was kinda hyped but knew it would be a coin toss of if was good or terrible. I had low expectations and was disappointed. I love all the elder scrolls games and was hoping they had learned from their mistakes and successes.
My expectations were already low before Starfield came out.
Overhyping always leads to unrealistic expectations which in turn leads to dissapointment. This has been proven on multiple occasions and people don’t seem to have learned anything from it.
It gits gud after 66 hours! You dont get it mannnnn
I encountered a Terrormorph on Kreet, the very first planet you go to with Vascoe to stop the pirates from attacking you. There was an abandoned lab on the planet and I ran over to it after killing the pirates. Later I realized that POI was just a procedurally generated POI when I started the UC questline and it killed any immersion in that quest for me.
The NPCs go into describing the terrormorphs like they're some big bad I had never encountered. I was thoroughly disappointed when I realized I had already killed one at the very start of the game. It was the moment I realized there was really nothing left for me to discover in SF, and I was only 50 hours into the game.
Had this same experience only it was on Akila at the very beginning of the game. I was looking forward to more of these monster encounters, only to discover none would happen until I did the UC questline. Don't even get me started on how few terramorphs I encountered on Londinion. The writing and dialog made it sounds like there would be legions of terramorphs But no. And Londiinion was suppose to be some quarantine zone locking all those terramorphs in the city. But once I got there, I could just walk right out of that city. And so could the terramorphs if they had a mind to. So lame and disappointing.
Holy crap this same thing happened to me LOL. I was so confused.
Same thing happened to me Total letdown. Especially with the braindead AI and bullet sponge behaviour of the creature.
This game feels AI generated.
When you consider that 95% of the game's content is empty, proc-gen moons, it basically is AI generated.
this is the best way to describe starfield, spot on comment
You should look at new tales of the borderlands as well. This one unironically feels ai generated.
"...developers are almost afraid to give romance-able characters a defined sexuality" Tell you haven't played Cyberpunk 2077 without telling me you haven't played Cyberpunk 2077. Otherwise this is a thorough and appreciated review. Bugs aside - CDPR has set the new gold standard for open-world action/RPG following 2.0, as have Larian for the legacy style CRPG. Someone press F for Bethesda. Gone but not forgotten.
The Ranger thing is a great example of a missed opportunity.
Imagine, for example, if being a Ranger created new dialogue and quest completion options. Maybe people who find out you are a Ranger might have different reactions or expectations about you. Maybe the Rangers can help you by providing forensic support in some cases. Maybe the Rangers will come after you if you sully their name by carrying out evil actions.
There is a lot they could have done.
Hey that type of malarkey involves actual people working on it ,how dare you , hence the term lazy devs lol
The problem with mods is that modding these games is getting more and more tedious and not worth it in the end.
There are so many engine problems that trying to keep the game stable while also modifying it to do what you want it to do is obnoxious. Bonus points when Bethesda pushes an update to the game, which in turn breaks most, if not all, of your mods until the mod authors are able to update them... if they even decide to update them at all.
Yeah, even as someone who is enjoying the hell out of Starfield. I am not looking forward to trying to mod it. Bethesda said they are going to be updating this more than any of their other games. And all that means is that modding will be a nightmare for years to come.
I find it funny how the GOG release of Fallout 4 literally advertises that it won't force you to update when the next-gen patch comes out.
@@DWTerminator
Creation club pays Modders right? To incentivize the work? I'm a bit out of the loop. I haven't molded since kotor
If they did a good we wouldn't have to mod it would we.
In this case with Starfield we need to mod it into a new game.
Mods are great and all but not even they can fix this crap. You can mod this all you want it's still going to suck.😏
@@roserevancroix2308 Oh I agree. The game is fundamentally broken in a way that games like Skyrim or Fallout 4 were not. The choice of randomly generated planets doomed this game in a way that mods can't fix.
Even if someone made one really good hand-crafted planet, or a great quest that would not fix the game as a whole. I was just talking about new gun mods and stuff like that. I don't expect every random gun mod to keep updated with Starfield if they start dropping a ton of updates and DLC.
The fact that every dead-eyed NPC is dead center both horizontally and vertically during dialogue just highlights how phoned-in and copy-pasted the whole thing is. If you're not sure what I mean here, play Baldur's Gate 3 for 15 min.
I deleted the game after 20h. As much as i didnt like Fallout 4, it got me going because of the exploration. I also somehow really enjoyed the settlement building. All the junk you picked up was also useful. Here the outposts are useless, just get some credits and buy all the resources you need. The exploration is dead. The moment that i turned the game off and unsinstalled it was when i was on a planet, and decided to check some ship wreckage point of interest. It was EXACTLY the same as the one ive seen like 1 hour earlier, It had the same items, in the same exact position laying around. Like, how lazy can you get. It felt like im being trolled. Not even gonna mention the fantastic Bethesda writing and quest design. How can a company not learn and evolve, instead every next product they produce is worse then the last one, this is the worst Bethesda game. Absolutely soulless.
i uninstalled fallout 4 after 3-4 hours after realizing how shit the quests are
Morrowind was peak while Skyrim was the last good game.
I feel like this game might be decent once the modders have filled up the empty space you need like 500+ mods or something. Bethesda releasing RPG maker again.
Unfortunately what they’ve learned is that they can KEEP DOING THIS. I mean they STILL have a loyal base of fanboys who will defend this garbage to the end.
And even worse they seem to have a very effective system of enticing content creators to basically sell this garbage for them and once it’s sold try and console their victims with moral support.
Hype and sell.
Hype and sell.
Then abandon.
Let the modders take over.
Our job is done and we got paid.
Fuck y’all.
And we keep asking for more.
I personally don’t think we are ever going to see anything decent from Bethesda again.
But I feel like it’s important to hold their feet to the fire and refuse ok this type of release.
They struck gold w their Xbox deal.
Cashed in.
Phoned in the development of this game.
And will spend the majority of the next cycle trying to hype their next disaster.
Not developing it.
But coming up with a marketing plan.
Fully agree, Been getting worse and worse with every game since Skyrim, even then older fans will argue Skyrim was already taking steps back from Morrowind.
It's even worse than you think with the romance options. I specifically refused to flirt with Sarah until she initiated any actual interest first and got through all of her questing until the point where they just starkly ask you to choose friendship or romance. This all after, again, I choose no flirtation lines and she never got flirty with me. I chose romance and then her dialogue makes it seem as if I'd be pining for her this entire time and she was falling for me.
That *is* worse than I thought. I figured they wouldn't be so absurdly incompetent as to not require you to use the flirt options leading up to the big companion quest, so I didn't even test that. Bethesda never ceases to amaze me with their rapid descent into awfulness.
When I was in like fourth grade they had these choose your own adventure books.
They were written far better than any storyline or quest line in this farce.
This reminded me of that time I wanted to marry an argonian woman at some town I found while exploring in Skyrim, went through the trouble of getting the ring that makes marriage possible, just to have the RADIANT AI mess everything up and not making the option for that NPC available. How do they keep screwing these things up.
"well folks..." 5 seconds in and I already agree with the tone alone. This guy gets it. Another great review and analysis to help us process this mess
Shoulda been ten, not a thousand. 🤷♂️
If they stuck to handcrafted content in space, the contrast between being indoors and in the vacuum of space could have been a sick contrast. I remember clearly mass effect pulling it off when you have to space walk through a part of the ship thats been torn away. Like youre fighting enemies with all the sounds then you end up in vacuum and now have to fight those enemies in near silence.
Just 10 handcrafted planets, each with an area 1/3rd to 1/2 the size of Skyrim. And make it about finding out about the creators of the artifacts, not a lame multiverse to DE-incentivizes doing side content as you lose almost everything each time you travel to a "new" universe that's 99.999999999% identical to all the others.
And don't forget gas vents. Not a single active volcano but gas vents E V E R Y W H E R E !
I had zero interest in Starfield. Had I started it, I would have uninstalled the moment anybody said “Starborn,” and I had FUCKING SHOUTS AGAIN.
I couldn't get past the tech issues and I'm glad you addressed this, I feel like it's THE most important part of building a modern game of this sort and it is totally holding them back.
As soon as I saw the trailers, I knew that they had been lazy about updating their engine/tech stack. I loaded into the game expecting jank, and the scripted initial cut-scene seemed ok, seemed modern.... for a second I thought I was wrong, and then when the lift stopped and we stepped off into the mines, I immediately saw the cracks opening up.
The sad thing is, this game has already been done, it's called The Outer Worlds, and it was done in Unreal Engine and felt 10 times better than Creation Engine does.
Same. When i first started i saw the being lift cutscene and thought if they kept io with this conversation and cutscene style and feeling of quality that it was going to be promising. It did not.
@@drgxiii totally fooled you didn't it... Just for a few moments....
Modders shouldn't need to keep fixing Bethesda's damn games. Bethesda nees a collective kick up the arse from the community as they finally get their act together and learn how to release quality.
When I joined the fleet at the end of the legacy quest I got the message that I was now enemies with the UC. I thought they would be permently hostile and was completely disappointed when the quest was over and we were OK all of a sudden.
Oblivion NPC dialogue back and forth with nonsense was pretty entertaining, ah nostalgia
You know what's crazy, according to a gamesradar article about startfield Phil Spencer he sat down with Todd and i think other Bethesda people and told them to delay starfield to 2023 instead of releasing in 2022 which Bethesda had originally planned on before Microsoft bought the company. He made a joke that tons of xbox's were being for q&a were running starfield. It's insane to me that after so many years of working with gambryo and it's creation derivatives that Bethesda seemingly can't even program with it properly. For so many years I've heard that Bethesda changing engines would be a bad idea because of having to relearn everything and that their main problem is treating polishing and bug fixing like an afterthought, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it's a combination of spaghetti code, tech debt, and Bethesda's own culture of laziness lack of ambition has finally started to catch up with them combined with the release of BG3 actually SHOWING what a proper role playing game is that much of the general public have realized that Bethesda offers jack shit compared to other companies.
Rachet & Clank did jumping between alternate realities better and more meaningfully.
Change my mind.
Mods will not save this game, because of how it is built. The worldbuilding is limited to the quests. This isn't Skyrim where you can crawl out of Helgen and immediately ignore any quest to do your own thing for 150 hours, because there is nothing to do outside of what has been placed into the game for quest design.
So unless you like staring at the same dozen buildings and fight the same four types of humans in them, or like building outposts that have no purpose aside from producing resources, questing is all you have. Any mod that would enhance the gameplay would do that for the quests. And the quests are insanely bad for all the reasons you mentioned.
I think they make the companions bisexual because if they defined a sexual orientation for them they would lock a decent chunk of a particular companion's content away for a particular play through. They're not being PC they're just ensuring that the content they did bother to make is always available to the player.
Yep. I seriously doubt they were trying to be PC, this just smells of laziness.
Bethesda Game Studios had one opportunity to fix their broken reputation since Fallout 76, and they blew it in Starfield anyway.
If it was fallout 4 in space i'd have like the game, but it's not as good as fallout
Bethesda fallout ain't good kiddo
@@chrisbj5251 Which should tell you something about Starfield
I dont even know how its possible to create a disaster like this. Ok nevermind i remembered fallout 76 and the almost depression it gave me...
Always like your content for the simple fact you are the few people who understand the necessity of role playing in a rpg and to correctly identify what it is lol
Ive watched like 36 different reviews of this game (i enjoy hating it) and his opinions are shared by most youtubers at the moment.
@@xaikken yeah unlike when fallout 4 come out people like dw and cretosis are now the majority opinion.
Todd gives us stun weapons, but they're inconsistent. He gives us brig habs for our ship, but no way to apprehend bounties alive. It's like Todd wants us to play murderous psychopaths.
They built a broad foundation for expansion. I expect all of these things will be implemented over time. For now there is certainly enough to enjoy, and I'm excited about what is yet to come.
If anything I feel it’s the opposite FO4 and this game make it almost impossible to play as an evil character all your companions in this game fall into either “lawful good” or “neutral good”
I think all the unkillable characters actually make it feel more psychopathic.. It divides the world into “disposable people” (workers, grunts) and “non-disposable” people (CEOs that just casually proposed mass murder and slavery) .. So you have to choose one of their three options because the writers decided they will just shrug off any number of bullets pumped into their heads, and then your comrades will tell you “oh well.. couldn’t be helped.”.
I think I will wait for Starfield New Vegas.
@@peterd9698haha I think you're overthinking it lol. But I swear, this game has more unkillable npcs than ever, it sucks
But he doesn’t because we can’t actually KILL anyone…
I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers. You are very thorough.
Very thorough but mostly overdramatic with negativity. He’s fun to listen to but take it with a grain of salt.
@@Drez47 yes but for me it's small things especially if theirs many of them add up to being a bigger deal than some blatantly broken things. Bethesda hasn't made a good game in over 10 years at this point so I'm not surprised this one is underwhelming as well.
Mainly because of his controversial views on some popular games. Not too many people enjoy hearing their favorite games so heavily scrutinized. Though I tend to agree with him so it doesn't bother me. Also I have thick skin when it comes to others' opinions.
@@Drez47 He might be overdramatic, or other people are just too much fanboys, and don't really analyze this game with the proper scrutiny, just because it is Bethesda.
@@jhonayo4887 Still, take it with a grain of salt.
I’ve watched basically all the big UA-camrs do reviews for Starfield and this is the best review I’ve seen. I also could feel your anger/disappointment as the review went on because I feel the same way about the game. Starfield is infuriating and you’re 100% correct it’s a CATASTROPHIC failure of a game. Bethesda have proven they are incompetent. Will not buy ES6 unless it gets rave reviews by real people and not the outlets.
At least CDPR had the balls to make every single romance-able character in Cyberpunk have their own sexual preference. Judy wont sleep with you if you’re a male V. Panam won’t sleep with you if you’re a female V. It’s a very minor touch but it really does go a long way to truly establish those characters as real people. Granted that sort of thing is CDPRs bread and butter so it definitely expected of them. Not Bethesda unfortunately.
I mean, Bethesda's idea of romance is "I've watched you pick locks on doors and containers a few times so clearly we're soul mates," so I wasn't expecting much from them to begin with. They still somehow managed to make that worse.
@@DWTerminator it was clearly them throwing in romance options just for the sake of having them. That’s pretty on par for Bethesda.
Bethesda romance is literally "We spent time stealing and killing ppl together - wanna blackscreen-with-buff?"
Making every single romance available to any gender breaks immersion for me like I’m supposed to believe that all my companions are bisexual?
One of Bethesda's problems is they don't believe in locking people out of content. They dumb it down so everyone can experience everything. Factions, romance, quests.
Not even the long time modders want to make mods for this game
That question to Todd about why isnt this game optimised for PC, he was caught off gaurd with that one hence the pause and Phillip the boy spencer having a giggles at howards expense, absolute magic was that, gan on Todd " This is a nxt gen game maybe ya need to upgrade your PC for this one" absolute quality ,theres games over 10 years old that are more deserved of that title.
Starfield makes me want to play fallout new vegas. Mainly because it's a Bethesda game without Bethesda making it.
they've been hiring from the modding community for years. its easy to drag and drop and copy and paste code... its another thing to write your own.
It's a smart play. Bethesda gets fresh talent. Modders get actual paid employment for their hard work (because let's face it, modding is addictive and they will do it regardless)
but they are just adding shit on and not fixing the base engine and it is not paying off. A big corporate deal isnt the win you think it is@@RandomWandrer
The people scream at BGS to change or reformat their engine.
Tod: *Slaps a V.2 on it and say. "Look how much graphics it can do!"
Best Starfield review . Totally nailed it.
Basically they phoned it in.
It’s essentially a game geared towards 8 year olds. And maybe that’s their plan. Make a game that’s babies first space game. Then when those kids grow up they’ll be BSG fans.
Idk. I do not understand a grown man or woman being able to get past the atrocious dialogue.
Great review tho! Very thorough!
Absolutely right! It's a sci-fi game for those who find Ratchet and Clank sci-fi too deep. For those who find Spyro the Dragon too challenging.
@@OrangeNashjust curious, do you like rift apart? I've been considering getting it for a good couch game. If it was on GeForce now I would have already.
What was all that dev time used as?!?!
@@skaetur1I hope it was smoking drugs and fuvking hookers.
Cuz anything else and I’m like you guys suck.
But tell me you’re all sex and drug addicts and maybe I’ll forgive ya.
But I have a feeling they weren’t doing shiz
Fantastic review. You hit every nail on the head. I cannot believe how BAD Starfield turned out... I doubt I'll ever play it again which is saying a lot. I've been playing Skyrim for 13 years. Elder Scrolls 6 will almost certainly be dogsh*t and I'll be 40 when it releases, that's if the world isn't destroyed by then... I won't care about ES6. I already don't now. Entertainment as a whole is dead. The world's on fire. Screw Bethesda and their ESG score. They made a universe where I would cheer for the reapers. It's an absolute waste of time to play and arguably an objectively bad experience.
Least defeated Bethesda fan
Spot the playstation owner
@@roywilson4514how can he play it “again” if he is a PlayStation owner
I agree entirely, my love for gaming has been dwindling for a few years now, and ive finally hit my breaking point of honesty losing interest in video games.
Theyre all about making money and nobody is trying to deliver a good experience anymore.
Its fucking sad and i too think entertainment is dead.
Yo relax dog lol
It use to be passionate gamers making games.
Most of these devs have left companies like blizzard and bethesda to either create their own studios, or dropped out completely.
It seems like the new devs aren't very passionate about games with a mix of stakeholder pressure in these companies to pressure deadlines. It's just a job to them.
I can't help but wonder how many of the "new" devs went through game development education programs. From what I've been seeing, those outright *teach* their students to make crappy games and treat the player like a complete moron.
@@DWTerminator it sure feels like it.
This is true of every artform or medium once it gains a certain level of mass appeal. The future of the games industry is the the movie industry, the music industry, etc. @@DWTerminator
Another big thing the game is missing is sentient alien species. One of my favorite things from their early games was the ability to play as and interact with non-human characters. Even though I always play as a Breton. lol
Comprehensive review, the best I've seen for this pile of ...game. Thank you!
I am sooooooo happy rn. Your Fallout 4 review is my favorite thing on UA-cam.
Incredible and baffling this game came from the same devs who made Morrowind, one of the most immersive RPG's where player agency is respected and you can absolutely lock yourself out of quests because choices do matter in that game. A game which had smart quest writing and dialogue, because it expects a certain level of cognitive ability from the player.
Most if not all of those devs have been gone for years. Like Blizzard. These companies are riding on loyalty. Nothing else.
@@oRnch199 actually Starfield is much more immersive then Morrowind ever was but I get your feelings for the past are strong
@@TheChenny73 Um no
I'm having a hard time actually seeing all the enemies, if it weren't for the gigantic health bar I would have no idea what you're shooting at.
It is kind of funny that Constellation is so goody-goody, yet the only reason to follow through on the whole relic gathering thing is so you can gain power. Which is basically an evil motif, the origin story of some kind super-villain or galactic emperor/sorcerer. If left alone, the Starborn would have gathered up the relics and moved on to a NG+, leaving the galaxy alone. So, off you go on a quest for personal power... while being constantly looked down upon for doing anything slightly non-good.
On the whole, it just seems like when designing the game, they forgot to ask the two most crucial questions: "Is this fun?" and, "How can we can change it to make it (even more) so?"
During my play through I realised the “depth” of NPC dialogue. I walked past a guard in my sweet new security armour. This guard was NOT wearing armour. Her line?
“You really should get some security armour”
…
Watching some of this corridor shooting/explorting footage gives me Fallout 4 PTSD. They really did reuse a lot of layouts stuff among other things.
This reloading problem at weapon change occurs in other way when you are base building. Once you built hundreds of containers and set ship to your interlinks, the game checks EVERY single container EVERY time a ship is landing. No matter where in the universe you are, you get constant freezes Lasting SECONDS. It really just breaks your game. Once you just turn off interlinks, all is gone back to normal. What a nice feature 🎉
I didn't notice that since I didn't put down containers outside of what I needed for the extractors. That's just... horrendous.
@@DWTerminator needed them for paramagnon, so 100k each of copper, silver, gold and neodyme. That sums up pretty much. Was lvl 231 when I quitted.
I found out about the weapon stuttering issue too late, my entire inventory were legendaries. I was carrying 19 weapons, 17 were legendary. As well as my whole gear setup being legendary. Soooo yeah; I can see why I was lagging so hard. It isn’t as bad now though.
I don't have the words to describe how much I hated this game. I paid the $100 for early access and it wasn't money well spent. I didn't have any performance issues on the xbox; the problem is just how bad the game is.
this game is what i will call a youtube or tv show game, which means you watch youtube or a tv show in the background to pass the time, and the fact i do agree with DWT about an over haul of this game, is why i have yet to get this game, i might ask for this game for christmas this year, hopefully by then some of the problems have bin ironed out
And thats perfectly fine if they werent asking $170 AUD for this mediocre video game
@Supadrumma441 lol I think your horrible economy and the corrupt government of Australia are more to blame than Bethesda
nah has more to do with the american dollar being in the toilet right now@@pacmikey1763
@@pacmikey1763 $70-$100 USD is still a lot of money for a mediocre game.
@@pacmikey1763In fairness, this translates to $113.97 USD and keep in mind, Australian prices include tax unlike the States, so it's basically the same price for the premium version, just with different units of currency.
your comments about companions and npc dialogue reinforces my deep suspicion that they used Chat GPT to develop most of their dialogue in this game.
I really wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Honestly, after thinking about the Pilgrim's notes a bit (specifically their comment on how jumping between universes *is not fulfilling*), the weird way the gamespace is designed, and the way that the mechanics combine... I really think the game wants to incentivise slow play. As such, I reckon I benefited from barely having time to play Starfield at launch. I could never game for more than an hour or two at a time, once every couple of days. So I ended up taking everything pretty slow, spending time in single locations rather than grav-jumping between objectives rapidly, and being pretty happy to sink an entire play session into putting a ship together or fiddling with outposts.
Unfortunately, that's also where a lot of weird choices in game design jumped out at me. The absolutely lacklustre "no consequences for your quest decisions" thing. The bizzare gating of quality-of-life features and furniture (like storage) behind pretty investment-heavy perks. The UI design, the inability to remove the weirdly condescending pop-up tips, the way that the game bugs out and resets interiors of ships and player homes, including the contents of containers (and some display furniture doesn't even work). The emptiness of the galaxy. The utter lack of model variants for unique weapons and armour. The way that a lot of loot tables (like mannequins in the wild) are bugged. The weird hivemind-goody-two-shoes-morality of all the companions, despite them being written as very different people.
It feels like a game that, in three or four years, will have had enough patches, DLC, and mods (both quality of life and content-based) will be something I can sink dozens of hours into. A nice big sandbox full of stuff, easily able to fit the sheer variety of content that modders like to cram into megapacks - something the old worlds of Fallout and Elder Scrolls never really could accomodate without feeling a bit weird.
That said, I didn't mind the floatiness of the main quests and lack of "ending". I think Bethesda put a lot more effort into the "side" quests based around factions, locations, and npcs. The way most people ended up playing Skyrim and Fallout really did ignore the main quest, so I'm not too surprised they went in this direction.
I also didn't mind the "choose between your two favourite Constellation companions" moment. I wasn't actually expecting Bethesda to commit to killing off a companion character, and was pleasantly surprised when it tied into the Emmisary's identity too. I didn't view it as "cheap", just kind of interesting.
Solid and comprehensive review, as always. Definitely think that a big split in player response has been between slow players and rapid/completionist players.
Funny you mentioned the doors/ladders in the ship builder are random. I hate it. Every time it makes me go around the long way because that's where it put the doors/ladders. There's always a better setup, but you can't have it because Bethesda wants it to be randomized.
Amazing video. As the head of a tiny studio myself, I like watching these videos. Helps expand the game design portion of my brain.
It was very disappointing that after I become a friggin space ranger with a badge and all, you can't use it outside the specific quest.
I ran into a single other instance where you can use your Ranger status. It was a dialogue option during the UC questline, when you have to talk to the Freestar ambassador... and it did absolutely nothing.
It's truly pathetic.
As always, top-notch review! Thank you DWT!
I feel like I’ve been on a long journey with you since watching your Skyrim video… THIS is as far as I’m concerned the definitive Starfield review.
You know what this game reminds me of, Basically every Star Wars and Marvel Show you see on Disney plus. A season that's 8 hours long that could be boiled down into 1 hour.
There's an awful lot of padding in pretty much all entertainment these days. TV shows, movies (especially), even games are often *far* longer than they should be. They're trying to keep people watching/playing as long as possible rather than making the experience worthwhile to begin with. In particular, games are incentivized to do this in the hopes that players will stick around and engage with the microtransactions, buy the battle pass, etc... though Starfield has no excuse for it since it's singleplayer and doesn't have any of that crap (yet).
@DWTerminator that's very well put.
Totally correct on Bethesda's writing.
The placing of the Terrormorph attack so close to the meeting about Terrormorphs almost made me want to quit the game.
It's obviously a set up to influence the board. A set up that the highly critical board doesn't even question. It totally ruined the plot for me. You know where this is going and are not surprised when it finally does. I also guessed at the Heat leeches as well. Although those large larvae that are always creeping around had me guessing them as well, but maybe they're the larval stage of a Heat leech.
This game was proof that current bethesda has nothing of the charm that made their old and buggy games worth playing.
The people that made that company what it was already left.
Buckle up boys and girls, it will be a long one!
Going in predicting: 1.5?
Around 1:16:00, you went for the Megaton doesn't have a trader argument route?
Really not sure what you're talking about since I don't bring up Megaton there, and Megaton definitely has a trader. She's a complete moron like pretty much everyone else in that game, of course, but she's still a trader.
@@DWTerminator Father Elijahcal, and Cretosis bring up the there is no source of food in Megaton.
It have good videos by the way
Ah the worldbuilding issues. Should've been more clear on that since "Megaton doesn't have a trader" doesn't convey that.
Frankly the lack of food is the *least* of Megaton's problems. The more you look at FO3 in general, the more completely it falls apart.
@@DWTerminator yeah my bad, I was half asleep when I commented.
It's kinda funny how there's people who hate Starfield but love Skyrim and Fallout 4. To me, Starfield is the same but without the walking 🤷♀️ guess aesthetics makes a huge difference for some 🤔
You know what's actual biggest downer for me about Starfield? It's that Fallout is more Sci-Fi than Starfield. In Fallout you don't just have lasers, hell no. You got power armor, plasmaguns, genetic engineering, portable nuclear reactors, teleporters, actually useable helicopters and other stuff that I forgot to mention too. In Satrfield it's like: "Oh... right! So, all of the cool things, like mechs and power armor, and tanks, all of that exists, it's just against some bullshit war convention so it's all locked up and now we are all a bunch of cartoony 21st century NASA spacemen." Imagine you could just carry around with you a battlemech and play discount MechWarrior whenever you feel like you don't wanna just shoot everyone. Imagine if instead of landing in a designated spot every time, you could just choose a spot on the map and your ship would drop you there in a drop pod. It really doesn't feel like anyone except Todd cared about this game what-so-ever.
That was one of the best reviews ive ever seen.😊
Please tell me the inventory reading thing is inaccurate. Please tell me. I don’t want to believe that they’d brute force such a basic software engineering problem.
From everything I've seen by people far better at programming than I... that's exactly how they handled it.
It would have been a lot better immediately with just one solar system, but all planets filled with hand-crafted locations. But the limitations of space AND on-foot travel would still have hurt the immersion a lot.
0:31 God, to think I was rolling my eyes at the people annoyed that Bethesda was taking over Fallout back then.
20:00 I actually liked FO4 npc animation better. Idk if it's the less awkward side angle or something
So Bethesda polished the turd along with begrudgingly putting in some work to make their new release not look like a reskinned Fallout 476 in the near release gameplay showcases... wonderful. I don't know why but somehow I expected that Starfield will have at least one thing kind of OK, at least it seemed like they are really hard at work with this game, surely the story and gameplay cannot be a failure across the board, and yet here we are, once again the verdict is: back to the drawing board...
What a "story" too, I don't know when I facepalm laughed harder, when I heard that you will get "powers", or when the word "multiverse" registered in my brain. Now that's one hell of a writing team there !
1:15:37 well that's a pretty good demonstration as to why companions are still only good for being packing mules, although the very natural, organic reaction at 48:23 also tells me what you can expect from any kind of interaction with them. For the sequel they really should add the option to choose as a companion a cargo carrying robot that hides if you enter combat and save everyone the trouble.
Bethesda and firearms knowledge, yep nothing seems to have changed in this respect. Oh, and so much for the improved gunplay, it's the same trash from before as far as I can tell. And seeing that you have 1400+ and 1700+ reserve ammunition for that white DMR/LMG looking thing also tells me pretty much everything about the resource managment, the game might as well have health regeneration and infinite ammunition, and stop with the ridiculous charade. And instead of adding bookmarks to the inventory, so once you open it you can click on the letter S for instance, and quickly get to your items that start with S, now you have to jump in and out of multiple inventories, excellent.
Well, thanks for going through with this, it is certainly a very entertaining video. I hope the expansions wash the taste of this out of your mouth, because just looking at this game at times felt bad.
one thing that I never got used to was that stupid XP counter that they decided the best place for it was in the center of the screen, or that some guns have an ammo counter/indicator on them yet the game feels the need to display the ammo again anyway
with the quests you can almost tell when the designer putting it together is less familiar/flexible with the engine. I've had quests unusually play out using the engine's own rules (a giant alien killed a quest giver with nothing on my part to contribute to it) only for the game to decide that this NPC can't die, and then they thanked me the killing the alien that I never even saw until it was dead. Some quests require you to have a certain type of outfit equipped, but then some suggest that you do but then they pedal back on it later in the same dialogue that to suggests to me that line was added once they couldn't get the scripting to work properly.
it took me a while of just skipping dialogue, ignoring companions and weapons to just go around punching people into ragdolls that there's barely any role playing in this game either, the level up screen is just an upgrade menu and because of NG+ i realised the only actual RPG elements of "completing faction quests can lock you out of other factions" is completely thrown out. I imagine later on they'll be a DLC where you break the cycle and actual get an ending, where your character will get to say an outdated meme as their final words.
It's weird that they decided to go with the "25 years in the making" thing yet the final product seems to lack identity after all this time. Maybe they meant it in the same way as I could pull out a game design document I made in college and call it "12 years in the making", it doesn't really mean anything.
Lmao i lost it when you said that you switch to a gamepad for the ship combat.
Wouldn't have to if the keyboard + mouse controls for it weren't janky as hell.
Wow, reading the comments is entertaining. People are saying they are enjoying exploring a mostly copy and paste game are the same people that watch the same movie 20 times in a week like its the first time they are watching it. They are the same people who have thousands of hours in a game that can be completed in a few hours.
So it basically looks like Bethesda have released a shell of a game and expect modders to fix, polish and finish it. I do not have high hopes for Elder Scrolls 6.
1:15:00 while the scale of everything is relatively small, there are multiple fully automated farms surrounding New Atlantis.
Yeah I don’t know what he was saying about cities showing farming etc was lacking I’m no it’s there. Like outside of Akila city there are farms as well.
I am subbing to your Patreon bc you have been the only person in any starfield review that has explained the failure of BGS with the creation engine.
It would have been much better if they actually updated it, they don't need a new engine. They need new management.
Also are you me from another universe? Bc this is pretty much the exact points I bring up when talking about this game.
Thank you for fallout in space review, will you make baldurs gate ?
Baldur's Gate is a long ways out since it's 3 games + expansions to cover.
Wow, very impressive work. Thank you.
I deliberately avoided any news or review about Starfield once I knew you were working on your review. So I went into this with the idea that it might be good.
First, it's incredible to hear that they released a buggy game again. How can they just get away with this??? This is unbelievable!
The game seems incredibly bland an boring. What a waste. I think we an now finally give up any hope Bethesda will ever release anything decent. They just don't care and won't do any effort.
I love the idea that the settlements are small due to game size limitations.
And I remember back in 2003 all of the games that had you play in cities that felt absolutely massive, Jack and daxter 2, Any final fantasy city, KOTOR.
And then I also remember Bethesda touting that new Atlantis is the biggest city they've ever made. But in reality its only the biggest by maybe a few square yards. And absolutely microscopic in size for any space faring civilizations capitol.
How about cyber 2077
@@main1033 How about it?
Its a 3 year old game. It has way more technical flexibility than games from 20 years ago. Its scope is relatively small. GTA5, a relatively large city, that feels like a genuine city. But compare Night City to the sprawl of Mirrors edge, or Deus Ex. My point is that we're not actually leveraging hardware and technology advancements to make bigger cities work better. Were using it for superficial stuff that isnt worth it and no one can actually utilize, namely, ray tracing.
@@117johnparKotor really didnt feel big most of the time.
The cowboy faction did it for me, above all the galaxy-famous "Rangers". There is the option to ask how many Rangers are out there: 12. No, not 12'000 which is a small amount of people when it comes to a multi-planet civilisation, no.....TWELVE! Then it became clear to me, those rangers are the minutemen from Fallout. This might work in a post-apocalyptic depopulized world, but not in a world where you supposed to believe that there are huge cities and many colonized planets. You are also supposed to believe that the cowboys who have barely nothing but some wild west huts have had a stalemate in a war against the pendant of the United Federation of Planets. I uninstalled the game when the sheriff of this cow-village came to me and asked if i could investigate whats going on near Miss Wilsons (or whatever name she had) farm.."ok", i thought, "lets go have a look, where is her farm?". It turns out, her farm is on another moon. Whats the population of all new colonies together? 80 or so? This is so dumb, the whole universe of Starfield makes no sense at all. Oh, and there is nothing to explore as mankind is already in EVERY system you visit and on every planet, there are already manmade installations, populated by pirates yes, but it means that other humans already found it before you did. You don't "discover" Paris f.e. when you drive there by train, seems there is simply no wikipedia or google in the future where you can simply search for whats in system xy. That was enough, not worth for any more painfull loading screens for that.
I appreciate how in depth this review is, but I wish examples were shown for each section instead of just B roll. That’s my only real complaint
There are examples throughout the video, though it may not be completely obvious at first glance since so much of the game is recycled content that all just bleeds together. For example, when I talk about the Ryujin Industries questline, the gameplay being shown is of that questline. Same for the other questlines.
@@DWTerminator oh okay my bad I didn’t make it terribly far into the game so most of it kinda blended together.
Don’t forget about the laziness of exploring old prison or nasa colonies that got frozen up or back in time and see that the same weapons the same outfits he’ll even the same tech is the exact same from the time line you are playing in
It's even funnier when you find perfectly edible 100-200+ year-old food items.
@@DWTerminatorthe level of incompetence from Bethesda is baffling their are some things in the game that are so bad I honestly can’t tell if they were trolling the player base or not
Also funny that you would mention Mass effect because thinking about it Starfield gives you a Virmire situation except the 2 companions you have to choose between are chosen depending on affinity and they give you a Miranda situation with the woman who is a clone/genetically edited version of Vae Victis. Might be complete coincidence of course.
I saw the terrmorph on the 1st planet you visit know the one that your forced to going to visit to deal with the crimson fleet..... so annoying
Man, I appreciate your video, truly. I've watched many reviewers, you're the one pointing out the culture some fans are fermenting by not holding Bethesda accountable for their own games. Every faulty release we have some people saying that mods will fix it and fail to criticize Bethesda. More people need to see this.
One of the few times pre ordering a game didn't bite me in the butt. I bought the ultimate edition for early access and thankfully because of it, I got a refund with 20hours played still in early access. Dunno if that is cause of Australian consumer protection laws or steam knew this game was a dog and was just giving everyone refunds.
Perfect game pass game IMO. But nowhere NEAR worth the $170 AUD they were asking for it.
I think Valve's more lenient with refunds on pre-release builds. That said, I know AUD is worth 64% of USD right now, but $170 AUD is fucking insulting. It's infuriating enough at $70 USD, let alone $100 for the "premium" edition... and you're paying the equivalent of around $108 USD.
Yep Australians are getting screwed royally with pricing on steam@@DWTerminator
That's a good thing about steam.
If you bought the premium like I did, and got the early release. It was counted as early access.
Steam allows refunds of early access games no matter the playtime.
What has battered me ever since the lunch of Starfield Is the fact that they put so much attention to going into new game plus, which naturally nullifies any consequences of your actions and at the same time they make so many - not even essential - NPCs not killable. I don't understand this approach because they've basically created a game where you wouldn't even need to do any quests in order to finish it, while at the same time boxing you in on every occasion. Starfield literally has more reasons to be like Fallout New Vegas than New Vegas does itself, wtf.
The proper name for the Crimson Fleet is the Crimson Cringe. I have accepted this head canon.
1:40:57 I have a different perception of the persuasion system. At first, I liked the implementation, but when I started leveling up the persuasion perks, the system ended up disappointing me because it becomes incredibly easy. When you have all 4 points in persuasion, it's practically impossible to fail persuasion, and this is mainly due to the rule 'If your last persuasion attempt was successful, then you can continue persuading the NPC.' In simple terms, this means that you always have to choose the green option. The green option with all 4 perk points has almost a 95% chance of success. If the NPC requires 8 points to be persuaded, you just have to select the option that gives you +1 eight times, and since you never fail that option, you can repeat it indefinitely.
Great recap of the creation engine issues. I never fully understood why people harped on it until now.
Excellent review as always, even better than your Fallout 4 review! I had very low expectations about Starfield to begin with, and when I saw other people playing the game, it only confirmed my predictions that it would be a bland and boring game. It seems that Bethesda took the worst aspects of their past games, i.e. the repetitive exterior and dungeon designs, and put it into Starfield without making it any better. It's a shame also that they still can't make any seamless transitions, whereas Gothic 1 was able to load everything continuously and it came out before Morrowind. I thought that this game may have been Outer Worlds but bigger and not written as well. But I guess it seems that Outer Worlds was the better space RPG after all, though that may not be saying much.
With all that said, good luck on your next reviews! I'll certainly be looking forward to your reviews of the DLCs for Amid Evil and Ion Fury as well as your full Cyberpunk 2077 review.
I'm in general agreement with you but k don't understand how you can prefer this building system over fallout 4. Fallout 4 wasn't anything to write home about, but i pretty much ended up ragequitting trying use the Starfield system
It's not *massively* improved over FO4's building but it's definitely a bit more refined. The overhead camera for the outpost building in Starfield helps a fair bit, as does the fact that you're not having to build around existing structures right from the get-go.
Like most things in Starfield, however, the controls for it are clunky and the interface is terrible, so I can see why you'd get pissed off at it.
@@DWTerminator Aside from the absolutely inexcusable ui/controls, its also just extremely limited compared to fallout 4.
You can't place foundations, you cant place walls, you cant populate your base beyond a few people, you cant accurately rotate anything, the snapping system is aggressive to the point of it being something you are constantly fighting rather than it actually being helpful.
I mean yea fallout 4 could be frustrating aswell, but atleast I could build cool stuff with it.. starfield is even more frustrating and you barely have any creative freedom... Like how am I supposed to build a cool base when all I can do is place a bunch of premade buildings in a field?
Sorry for venting, but man.. Who on earth playtested this thing?
To be fair: the vast majority of planets don't have breathable atmospheres. Going with sealed habs rather than standard buildings just makes more sense.
The snap-to system was janky as hell in FO4 so they overcompensated on it with Starfield. It works better now but the controls are still clunky, hence the feeling that it's overly aggressive. As I mentioned in the video, switching to gamepad when building helps out quite a bit. Keyboard object rotation is frustratingly imprecise. It's much easier to do that with the gamepad. Why they did it this way, I don't really know.
How are you supposed to build a cool base? You aren't. As I mentioned, it's abundantly clear that outposts only exist to produce resources for your crafting and research.
As for who playtested it, I have no idea. They clearly didn't give Bethesda the feedback they actually need, though.
A few questions:
1. Is this game straight up unplayable without the UI pointing every enemy out with their healthbar? I can't see jack in some parts of the video. That seems like a massive art direction issue.
2. With the evergreen topic of Bethesda vs Obsidian, there's been a few discussions comparing Starfield to The Outer Worlds. Considering what you said about this game and how utterly average if disappointing TOW is to the point you weren't even going to properly review it, do you think the games are comparable at all despite their disparate differences?
1. Unplayable, no. Frustrating, absolutely.
2. I wouldn't really compare the two much. TOW is a much more focused experience, after all.
A friend of mine asked me what I thought of Starfield. I said it's pretty much a full conversion mod of Fallout 4. Which I wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened.
The companions in the game certainly remind me of a lot of the Skyrim companion mods I've used. From the cringe romance dialogue to the giving me useless shit to the fawning over the PC, it feels like they just took notes from mods to create the companions in SF.
At least the mods are amateur work done in the modders' free time. Bethesda has no excuse.
@DWTerminator oh none whatsoever. I was about 20 hrs in, and I couldn't take it anymore. I got tired of the constant loading screens and the constant conversations with characters that all have a thousand yard stare and dialog I didn't care about. So I went back to Cyberpunk.
I'd imagine starfield getting the Baland Wonderworld treatment, where it's only good for a speedrunning category and nothing else
Good lord, i zoned out watching this video focusing primarily on your gameplay. Its either 1 shot kills or 10 clips from 3 different guns. The only thing consistent was you standing still to shoot the enemies lol. it looked like a rail shooter 😂
It's pathetic, isn't it?
Agree with everything you said. Also, have to love how many story lines were direct rip offs from other ip's. Touching the artifact gives visions- Mass Effect, get to the center of the galaxy/unity - No Man's Sky, Vae Victus living in the basement prison (if you let him live) giving you missions to go after other bad guys - Blacklist, Hunter - Agent Smith clone, planet full of clones of old Earth leaders - og Star Trek, lost pre-warp colony ship - a couple of Star Trek episodes, the whole Freestar Rangers questline - episode of Justified, etc. And so many others.
How about not having an inventory system or even sorting the inventory on your Outposts so you have to go box to box searching for your resources. The game could have been a good game, you could see the grand vision they originally had but for some reason they truncated story lines, dumbed things down or just abandoned ideas. Whether it was bad management, incompetence or laziness, or all of the above, we'll never know but something that could have been memorable turned out meh.
Name one unique idea in starfield (impossible challenge)