The Last of Us Episode 9 'Look for the Light' Finale REACTION!!
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- A pregnant Anna places her trust in a lifelong friend. Later, Joel and Ellie near the end of their journey. Here's Nikki & Steven's reaction to the season 1 finale of The Last of Us.
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Doesn’t look like the perfect Ellie? The voice actress Ellie looks more like her especially the eyes of Ellie from the games version & Pedro looks more a white latina then being a true caucasian like Joel’s game version. Wish he had the full beard like him too .
Only better thing about the show is the showing on screen backstory with the stuff they didn’t show in the game and the voice actors in game were being used there motion captures of showing there actual emotions and transferring it into there characters faces in the game as most people don’t realize that nowadays with how realistic video game’s graphics have gotten and they think there’s not showing any emotions in faces in a game compared to live action wich isn’t true . Games better then show by far just like stuff like Harry Potter or game of thrones or walking dead live action being based off comics or books that’s stuff always turns out better with also more detail being able to be put into it.
Have you seen the Netflix advert for The Last Kingdom film?
Ellie just kept chopping till she hit wood... nuff said.
@@osojasmine8288 why are you being xenophobic? Who cares if Pedro is a white Latino instead of a "true Caucasian" he is still white and while he was born in Chile he was raised in USA, Texas, he still lives in the US/NYC mostly but I think he holds a Chilean citizenship too and visits his family in Chile frequently that's why both his Spanish-Chilean and American-Texan accent is perfect, he is fluent in both but you could argue English is his first language, his parents moved to the US when he was a baby so they probably taught him English first and then Spanish.
He nailed it as Joel, focus on that instead or silly things like his beard or if he's Caucasian American white or Latino white.
The fear of losing Ellie brought Joel back to his prime. This is how terrifying he was back in his time with Tommy.
He was scary as hell in the moment
My man full on disassociated and got the job done
@@NikkiStevenReact He wasn't, he saved a Elly from the commies.
You can feel that Joel will never lose a loved one again, and he goes scorched earth to the idea of Ellie dying. What a ride was this show, amazing!
If ellie had cancer, I'd have feared for cancer's life
Eh does he really love her? Or is it just what she does for him
@@saharasafari9 It's both she replaces the daughter that he lost.
@@blackcrowvol2281 so she’s just a performance for him to feel like he matters.🤷🏾♀️ by the end of the season we know that he doesn’t really respect her as a friend or as a person because he takes her choice away and lies and manipulated her into continuing that father daughter role.
@@saharasafari9 Well if you think about it the fire flies didn't give her a choice either they just shipped her into the surgery room. She didn't even realize that she was drugged. Joel made sure that she lived long after his death.
I think the disconnect between Joel and Ellie in this episode was due to her PTSD. He’s getting better with his trauma while she’s dealing with a fresh trauma.
Oh without question. She is still traumatized. There's probably a little bit of "we've come all this way and we're just about there" but clearly she is still a wreck emotionally.
Yeah she literally tries to rationilize that the trauma is worth it as long as she can make the cure
Wich joel negates
She is gonna heal from it given due time but still
absolutely, she's gonna need time and human connection to get better
i had the added idea, even while playing the game years ago that Ellie, after her encount with child ra**** cannibals, she was probably thinking things like "is this world even worth saving? are these people worth it?" and that all got her depressed ontop of the PTSD, and the Giraffes sparked this "theres still great and beautiful things in this world that are worth it"
@@IH8YH It's an excellent interpretation, it makes a lot of sense.
" They say time heals all wounds".
"It wasn't time that did it".
Damn, that's almost as emotional as "Baby girl".
Great finale for an outstanding season.
Damn attack of the onion choppin ninjas!
I think that’s my favorite line from the series
Just seems like that would be something someone says to a romantic partner, not a father to a daughter.
@@BlackMadonna777 Only if your mind is in the wrong place.
@@BlackMadonna777 because only romantic partners can heal emotional wounds? What are you even saying?
My favorite parallel in this episode is Anna lying about Ellie to protect Ellie and now Joel lying to Ellie also too protect her. A parents love is on another level and as beautiful as it is, there's consequences to it.
To have Ashley as the woman birthing Ellie is my favorite cameo possibly ever. The emotion behind it and driving it makes me cry. It also makes me want to see Ashley Johnson do more live action work. What a damn performance.
Oh wow you just blew my mind about the lying part
@@wiiplaya25 cool! I was just blown away by how well written this show is and the constant parallels they've presented us with. The whole show is about love and the consequences of it. The things people will do to protect who and what they love, feels so human in this show and it's why I love it and the game so much.
Ellie meant EVERYTHING to Anna and she will do anything to protect her, even potentially put her childhood best friend at risk. She didn't know Ellie would be immune, but you better believe she's gonna lie to get Ellie safe.
Just as Joel is going to lie to save Ellie because she in now his everything. They're both wildly selfish in those moments and there is no hesitation and it's such a beautiful and tragic human response. It's almost horrfying because it makes us confront ourselves and the decisions we know deep down we'd make. And 9 times out of 10, we're saving the one over the many. And we've seen how true that was during this pandemic, something as simple as wearing a mask was too hard for some people. It makes Joel's choice 10 years later hit harder for me, in the opposite way. 10 years ago I was completely in camp team wrong. Understood it, but 100% wrong. Now, I get it. Seeing the selfishness of humanity these past 3 years can harden your heart and make you want to say fuck the world, do we deserve saving? Maybe I'd rather just live with the people I love most and let the world just go on. Now I'm more 60/40 and that can swing on any given day.
Fantastic and emotional episode. I like the add when Joel confessed that he tried to kill himself and that he directly says to Ellie that she saved him, had me all teary eyed
What a moment between the two of them
Except he didn't say it directly...a lesser show would have followed up "It wasn't time that did it" with something like "It was you" or a hug or something. This show is better than that -- Ellie knows, the audience knows, everyone knows, but he didn't have to say it for us to know and feel what he was communicating.
Oh same. I didn’t know that part of the story.
@@misterderp4566i was kinda expecting ellie to hug him tho
Tess saved him first, gave him a purpose and kept him busy but yeah now Ellie is the one that kept him going without Tess there
I hate that Marlene talks about decisions but wouldn’t even give Ellie the chance to do just that. Not the chance to make the choice and not the choice to say goodbye. It’s such a grey area for both sides and I love that leading up to the next season.
She probably would have ageeed with marlene but I know what you mean
Both sides are the right and wrong choice
@@BluEx22329 oh yes I know she would have but that choice was still stripped away. Regardless of what her decision would have been, she should have at least gotten one.
@@BluEx22329 I doubt it. I'm not killing myself for a maybe.
@@someone23ful
True but tbf Marlene probably was backed in a corner by a lot of people who realize that Ellie’s life being taken will end the “apocalypse”. Marlene was right, and wrong, depends on how you want to look at it, should she be given the choice to say no, and then everybody just has to live with the fact that there’s a cure that can save everyone, but they can’t because they leave it up to free will, which is why there’s not really a correct option in this situation, because either way someone was saved
That Joel's killing spree scene montage is brilliant, it's quick, shows the violence in his eyes.
They fucking did it with that scene, it's so good
Had that 28 days / weeks later camera work.
I get why a certain someone did a certain thing to a certain character in the 2nd game
@@hermionesings Like... How? Abby is just a stuck up b!tch who hates Joel because he's a man. She doesn't care that Joel looks after Ellie and that Ellie loves Joel.
John wick ess
@@hermionesings Ahah, I understand too. But some major informations were missing in TLOU2 and from both sides.
Really great game though
The brutal hospital scene was so well done with the emotionless disconnect from Joel doing whatever is neccessary to get to ellie, the muffled combat and sad music..... omg so well translated from the game
I love how real Nikki is with her emotions during these videos...
It’s especially inevitable with a cute baby in the show
I know right. They both do a really good job
yes 100%
i tune in exactly for that. im very emotional too and i love that feel/react the same way. love this channel.
@@concretgod8085 - I agree...also love how Steven sometimes gets concerned and comforting when her emotions take over.
As a parent, I can 100 percent imagine how Joel is feeling. I would do ANYTHING to ANYONE to protect my child. What an episode 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Me too! 100% percent! If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I'll wear that proudly knowing that someone killing my beloved child would have to be over my dead body.
@@ro4eva amen!!
@@ro4evapathetic
@@ro4eva Absolutely, I would not only let the world burn, I'll strike the match to save my children.
It goes deeper than that. We know Ellie would have wanted this. Marlene eludes to this and those who’ve played the sequel, know this to be true too.
Her whole life has been decided by other people. She was put in FEDRA school by Marlene, her life set out for her - Captain Kwan gives her two roads she can go down, than after she gets bitten Riley gives her option 1 & 2 and ignores Ellie when she asks what option 3 is.
From there she’s given to Joel and goes through a series of traumas and near death exp, where she’s to follow Joel’s every direction.
After all this and all those who’ve died instead of her, Ellie is suffering from survivor’s guilt and needs her life to mean something. She would have readily let herself die for a cure. The tragedy, is that the one time she makes a major decision for herself, it’s taken away by the one person she loves in the whole world. The ending shows she sees through Joel’s lies and even though she’s alive, their relationship is forever broken because of this betrayal.
The fact that Joel got tunnel vision when it came to Ellie is a huge testament to his character development
Remarkable acting by Bella Ramsey and Pedro Pascal. The last scene when she asks Joel to swear, and the look on her face, in her eyes. You know she knows he's lying, but she loves him. I was so disappointed when I saw this was only a 45 minute episode but it was so emotionally packed. So good.
Ashley Johnson herself said that Ellie doesn't believe Joel the second he lies to her. It blew Neil, Craig, and Troy's minds when she said that on the podcast. Their relationship is forever changed/ruined and seeing it play out on TV is going to absolutely crazy, cause TV Joel is a lot more "human" and "soft" compared to video game Joel
Exactly!! Such subtle and amazing acting by both. You can literally see on her face that she knows he’s lying and that for the first time she realizes she can’t trust him anymore. She just wanted him to be honest with her but he couldn’t, so eventhough they love each other they now have to live with this lie. You can see the wedge form between them and you know nothing will be the same. 😢
@xxxilva I don't think I agree with you fully... Yes, he lied. But that doesn't mean their relationship is ruined. He can tell her the truth and they could mend it. I think she would understand. People make mistakes and he saved her life. Lying was the only thing he did wrong. Everything else is on the Fireflies. 😭
@@casie6609 there's also connection with him and Anna about both of them protected Ellie by lying (Anna lied to Marlene about she cut the cord before she got bitten)
@@casie6609 I didn’t say it was ruined.. I said it will never be the same because that’s what happens when trust is broken and lies/secrets are introduced. She gave him an opportunity to be honest with her, being honest later won’t be as easily forgiven.
After Ellie "okay" and the music hits. I legit fell to my bed and just soak it all in. Spectacular game adaptation. Superb acting from Pedro and Bella. Cannot wait for part 2. Absolutely radical.
The music is perfection
When they gonna release part 2?
If you played the you don’t want a s2😭😭
I’m dreading a Season 2 if they follow the story like Season 1.
Joel wasn't on rage mode in the hospital... he was in eliminate threats to Ellie mode... calm, focused. I loved the music (sad) they chose for the scene... The nurses were killed in the game but for the show, they weren't a threat, get Ellie, move her out of harm's way... I can't believe how much emotion was packed into 44 minutes... Enjoyed your reaction!!
Fun Fact: One of the nurses is played by Laura Bailey, who actually voiced a nurse assistant from the game but also plays a very important character - who I won’t say, in case anyone doesn’t know - later in TLoU story.
Oh really? Didn’t recognise her in a mask I guess
Oh shit that's so cool!
@@danzansandeev6033 her voice I noticed right away
@Rick King 22 SPOILERS
Abby
Didn't you spot that in the flashback Ellie's mum is played by Ashley Johnson?? Ashley played Ellie in the game!!!
THANK YOU for mentioning Bella's likeness to Ashley. All the people complaining while at the same time they look like they could easily be related.
Ashley Jonson was the one who did Ellie in the video game. It is a really nice gesture of them that they have put some of the video game actors in the series too.
I have to say that before this, I never realized just how similar Bella Ramsey looks to Ashley Johnson. I could absolutely believe they could be mother and daughter.
I just wanna say there’s blood when a baby is born that baby looked pretty clean. Probably had too tame it down a bit for tv.
Yeah, the casting was so great due to likeness despite the game voice actor connection.
i agree people were wrong saying she looks nothing like ellie actress or in game but i do think shes not that good fo an actor to play the ellie role. Pedro for joel did a good job but bella Ellie isnt that endearing or likeable imo.
Nikki: "I'm not crying, you're crying."
Me: "Of course I am crying. Joel's crying!"
He just can't let her die to save the world. She is worth more to him than all of those people. Gotta love it. He is a dad again.
"She means more to me than you'll ever know."
Joel to Marlene and the Fireflies "She means more to me than you'll ever know."
It’s the way a dad would do anything for his child for me! 😭💔
Yep
" anything for HIS child" sure, but what about MY child?? 🤔... it's the horrific nature of the fallen world, and by extension, ultimately, of OURSELVES.... us ...
It was interesting when Joel told her the real reason he's deaf in one ear. He was in the exact same place emotionally Henry was at that time in his life. If anyone could sympathize with Henry's pain at that moment it was Joel.
I’m someone who never played the game I’m experiencing this story for the first time and the development of Joel and Ellie’s relationship during these past 9 episodes has been master class❤during this episode I kept thinking back to episode 4 when Joel told Ellie all you are is cargo to go from that to Joel choosing Ellie over saving all of humanity is something really beautiful
This. As someone in love with the game for 10 years it was hard to express to newcomers the long haul character arcs they were in for without giving things away. People were writing it off as a stupid zombie show and I had to tread the line between biting my tongue and urging them to keep watching.
You really can't judge this on the first few episodes although episode 3 with Bill and Frank did a solid job of showing newcomers this is not your typical post apocalypse story.
The story is all about the bond between Joel and Ellie and the decisions that leads to. That really only kicks off into full gear by episode 6.
This was an emotional episode seeing the opening with Ashley Johnson's Anna opening the episode gave me chills. It's the passing of the torch from the OG Ellie to the actress who is playing Ellie in the show. Ashley in those 5 to maybe 10 minutes powerful performance and knocked it out of the park.
Also, for me here's what sets this show apart from similar shows: restraint. It's eerie, intelligent, carefully paced and most importantly it only rarely shows you the infected. This means that when an infected DOES appear, it's impactful AF.
Is it just me or dose Bella look like Ashley I’ve never noticed it until this episode
Ashley Johnson is goated
Idk my personal critiques it seemed pretty fast especially this episode. I felt no danger to Joel when he was wiping out an entire building. I felt no danger for them from zombies while traveling the across country. And there was like 5 minutes of zombies in a zombie apocalypse. (Non game player)
Wtf this ending is horrible Joel is just a monster murderer who is selfish and thinks he's worth more than others
@@Ace-mw9pmNon-game player says a lot, lmfao. Its gonna be fast because besides the cut scenes it was all gameplay (in the game) which if they included all that it would obviously be boring and everyone would be complaining that it’s going too slow. Can’t win.
and the fact that they filmed the "babygirl" scene before the David scene, just PROVES how amazing Bella is!
Joel's attempt on himself is new for the show. I think the point of this addition is that our Ellie is currently in a bad point in her life for this kind of choice. She's in a rough patch. All Joel did is just buy her some time.
I’m pretty sure it’s hinted at in the game but not out right said
@@cydniebourret1702 Yeah it happened during the Pittsburgh scenes in the game, very much a hint
It’s alluded to in the hotel in Pittsburg. You come across a body (bodies?) in a bathtub with a toaster. Ellie makes a comment about them “taking the easy way”, and Joel says that it’s not as easy as it seems
Having Ashley Johnson as the person who “created” Ellie was a very poetic touch from the show creators 👏👏👏
Ashley Johnson’s voice is so recognizable as ellie
It really is. Even just the sounds she was making is recognizable
When she said it’s me that’s exactly how Ellie would say it
@@NikkiStevenReact my thoughts exactly, all the gruts and stuff.
Would've done the same as Joel.
What were they thinking?
After all they went through together, they blow him up, hit him over the head, didn't allow him to see Ellie again, hand him her knife instead (basically saying: "she won't need it anymore"), and then try to get rid of him with the words: "if he tries anything - sh__t him!"
Again: no second thoughts - just would've done what he did.
The giraffe moment gave me Jurassic park 1 vibes SO HARD, loved it.
Giraffic Park
Such subtle and amazing acting by both all the way through. In the last scene you can literally see on Ellie’s face that she knows joel’s lying and that for the first time she realizes she can’t trust him anymore. She just wanted him to be honest with her but he couldn’t, so eventhough they love each other they now have to live with this lie. You can see the wedge form between them and you know nothing will be the same. 😢
Ellie knew what happened right when she woke up. When Joel told her that raiders broke in and he barely got her out she knew. When she asked him "Were people hurt?" She was asking him, "Joel, did you kill innocent people?" You can see it in her face. Brilliant acting.
Calling these Firefly people innocent is really stretching it
This is the most touching show I have ever seen. I could literally feel their love.
" If somehow the Lord gave me a second chance at that moment, I would do it all over again*
I don’t think anyone truly understands how Joel is feeling UNLESS you have a child. His reactions and ruthlessness, is what any good parent would do to save their child. I can 100% say that aside from Game of Thrones, this is my favorite television show ever and is a Cinematic MASTERPIECE.
Bella’s little laugh makes my soul warm. I loved the giraffe scene ❤😊
As someone with CPTSD, I always feel a little bit of validation and appreciation, a little bit seen, when an on-screen character displays accurate symptomatic behaviors after such a traumatic event. Ellie's dissociation was a great touch - it wasn't too heavy-handed or exaggerated. Sometimes it really does just feel like the world goes on mute for a few seconds. I've missed pieces of conversation or having my name called, etc. It's basically a reflex for me at this point and something I've had to learn how to adapt my life around.
From a writing perspective, neither side could ask Ellie what she wanted. Whatever answer Ellie gave (which probably would have been to sacrifice herself), in the mind of most player/viewers that would have become the "right" answer (or rather, hard to reject on an emotional level). The beauty of the ending is that you can make a solid argument that Joel was right or that he was wrong. I change my mind about the answer to that problem regularly, it's such a close and interesting question. And people have been arguing about it for a decade. That is what you want from that ending, no easy answer.
Yes Nikki!! That’s what I’ve been saying as well. Marlene saying she thinks Ellie would want to do what’s right just really pissed me off. Because she didn’t give her the choice! So she was willing to let her die without her consent, when Ellie would probably have agreed to do it (not that a 14 year old is able to consent to such a thing anyway!). So she lied by omission and was willing to end Ellie’s life (and that took any other options off the table right then, leaving only one option for Joel),
whereas Joel did what he did and lied to Ellie to save her life. I know who I lean towards supporting.
Marlene didn’t give Ellie a choice, but Joel didn’t either.
@@gpeddino but one choice would end her life, the other would save it. I’m still with Joel on this. So he went scorched earth to save her life and the byproduct of that removes the option to continue the surgery… so in order to save her from guilt for not ‘saving the world’, he lied to her. Neither option is great, but like I said, I’m killing them all too if I’m Joel. Also, even if Marlene had given her the choice, there is no way a traumatised 14 year old should be able to consent to such a thing.
AND Marlene took that option off the table for Joel to give her a choice, by just plowing ahead with the surgery. He had no other recourse at that point.
Maybe Marlene told her on day one, told her to keep it secret?
@@jamesdodds9407 No. because after Joel says “cordyceps grows inside the brain. Find someone else”, Marlene says to Joel “there is no one else… we DIDN’T TELL HER, we didn’t cause her any fear, there won’t be any pain”; so Ellie didn’t know. In episode 5 Ellie told Sam that her blood was medicine so she likely felt it would just be a matter of doing something with her blood.
I was thinking that too. I don’t see Marlene as an especially bad person, but that moment disgusted me.
When Joel decides to kill everyone there, you can feel that he was prepared to die for her, the same way he almost killed himself on the second day. He was calm and precise as if nothing else matters at that point. Amazing and very emotional. Great reactions!
Im not a game player, Im old, Im satisfied..... To quote a wise man
"I don't have time for this" really sums it up
That shot and audio with the bullet shell falling on the ground as Joel's walking was so perfect my world started spinning! No show has ever done that to me.
I loved the scenes they are adding in the show. Ellie looks exactly like her mom. For those who didnt like bella as ellie cause she looks completely different from the game, well heres your answer. Bella nailed it. Pedro nailed it. This season is a 10 for me
Bella nailed the acting no doubt about It , but I think It could have been way better with a more similiar actress
The hospital scene was brutal but oddly beautiful. The music was incredible and haunting.
"Were people hurt?"
"No, no. Two nurses are ok."
I told my husband that the giraffes reminded me of innocence and Ellie's joy seeing them, while still dealing with ptsd....this episode was so powerful.
I genuinely can’t pick a favorite episode just because I feel it was the journey itself and how every episode added another level of excitement and emotion. Can’t wait to see all the awards they win.
Saaameee. It all builds up together and as overall is so good. And pretty much every episode is little different and brings something else to the table. And now I can't decide on ranking
@@Andjelka99 Couldn’t agree more! Same dilemma lol
Only ep 3 sucks, two bearded dudes fucking is awful
The conflicting views of Joel and Ellie is interesting to see. His major loss came from humanity, the soldier shooting Sarah. And Ellies major loss came from the virus, the runner biting Riley. And seeing how by the end of this they have opposite views where Joel is willing to sacrifice humanity to save Ellie. And Ellie is willing to sacrifice herself to try and save humanity. Fantastic story.
Woah really well put
When debating the morality of this whole scenario recall what they said in the very first scene of the series about how if a fungal infection were to exist a cure is impossible to even create they even tell Joel that this isn't 100% guaranteed to work and they didn't even keep her alive for as much testing as they could possibly think of from blood, brain scans, anything to try to understand this better they just jumped straight to life ending surgery. Not only this but the Fireflies have been shown to be a very poorly managed group of essentially terrorists with lofty ideals but no real structure or plan, you hand this group an actual vaccine and think they won't monopolize it and use it as a means to become the dominant governmental body where they get to decide who to distribute the vaccine to? This is my argument for Joel being in the right here, but a crucial part of the sequence is Joel does not care in the slightest whether he is in the right or even if they can actually make a cure, regardless of the morality or benefit he absolutely refuses to lose Ellie for any reason. Right back to what Bill said in his note, I used to hate the world but I was wrong because I found one person worth saving, so that's what I did I saved them. That's why men like us are here, we have a job to do, and god help any motherfucker who stands in our way. Joel would have killed every single person in that hospital plus more because NOBODY is taking another daughter from him.
And one thing I always asked was how would they duplicate a cure? How would they distribute it? What would happen if they lost the original sample? Too many what ifs and not enough answers so I'm 100% on Joel's side
@@VecnasCurse86 Joel should have came clean at a later point not right away and very heavily stressed the part that it was not a for sure thing that a cure would be created in why he decided to do what he did. Its easier now to lie, but if Ellie were to ever find out? Then it becomes a much worse situation for him trying to explain himself.
It always made me think, that even if by some miracle they made a cure...how are they going to manufacture it on a big enough scale to make a difference? How are they going to distribute it? Won't they just monopolise it? Why kill your only source of research? Wouldn't it benefit them to keep Ellie alive and keep being able to draw blood samples? i just don't see them being able to create a cure with shitty lab facilities, one doctor who isn't even a specialist, and only one immune subject to test with? It doesn't seem even remotely possible that it would work /shrugs.
@@MotherofImps The simple answer is they are a group of incredibly stupid, short sighted people with no actual concrete plan and Joel was totally justified in not sacrificing his daughter on the off chance they MIGHT be able to make at best a few samples of a vaccine, which they have no means of mass producing, distributing or testing. It was essentially we are just gonna wing it and cross our fingers, now get lost and no you don't get to say goodbye to your daughter, Joel had every right to save her.
I've said this from day one of playing the first game. The fireflies didn't even try with ellie they just instantly wanted to kill her over a "hope" it could work. And like you said if it had somehow worked they sure as fuck would of used it to get what they want from who they want. They didn't care about humanity they only cared about themselves.
On one hand Ellie would have wanted it, but Marlene didn’t know if it would work, why else wouldn’t she ask Ellie? On the other hand if you had a kid wouldn’t you do anything to keep them safe, especially since it wasn’t guaranteed .
I don't think so, after the giarfe scense she told Joel she wanted to live with him after this was over. She wasn't planning on dieing.
If Marlene felt that strongly that Ellie would choose to be the cure WHY didn't she ask Ellie what Ellie wanted to do??? Instead, she just let them put her under without knowing the full truth. That was her first mistake.
Marlene was being selfish. Marlene & Joel were being selfish. Also, Marlene was approaching Joel like he was Old Joel (when Ellie was just cargo). Marlene NEVER even let it cross her mind that Joel & Ellie created a bond and now he's Poppa Joel. That was Marlene's second mistake.
Marlene’s explanation doesn’t hold water. If Ellie’s cordyceps is telling the other zombies that she’s one of them, why did they attack her in Kansas City?
I think she means that the cordyceps that’s transferred when bitten recognizes the cordyceps that’s already in her body, so it doesn’t do anything maybe? That’s how I understood it at least.
I hate that she had to die but Ashley Johnson playing Ellie's mom is perfection.
This is by far the best video game adaption that has crossed my path.
Sure they took some creative liberties but what the show delivered was something truly special and unique for gamers and non-gamers alike. I can't wait to see season 2! Well done everyone
I wanna watch season 2 but I absolutely do not wanna hear all the bullshit from ppl about the story of part 2.
@@mediumvillain i am so fucking ready for season 2 and hope they make it just as faithful as this
I look forward to season 2 as well because the story is actually really good.
I loved Part 2
@@mediumvillain part 2 sucks
"it wasn't time that did it" ooh wee. what a line.
I love this story.
Only thing Joel did wrong was not killing those nurses, and getting Ellie her backpack.
"he THINKS it could be a cure Joel" fuck that thought.
The Fireflies shoulda let Joel recover, told Ellie what was about to happen and let them say goodbye. Maybe that would have prevented the massacre, and they woulda been able to TRY. Like its been well over 4 months since they left Boston what's one more night so people can have a proper goodbye.
What I would give to experience this storyline for the first time again. Still one of the best shows ever.
I agree with Joel. Marlene said they THINK it’s a cure…why not do lab work and tests on her before taking out her brain? They also wouldn’t let Joel say goodbye, AND they didn’t tell Ellie “hey if we do this operation, you will die-are you okay with that?” She wasn’t able to give consent.
Also, in a way, Joel did save the world-he saved HIS world. The world took his daughter from him, now he’s taking the potential cure from the world. 💔
Yes, Troy Baker is who said that originally. About his world, I mean.
Anyone who discredits the importance of there being a huge possibility for a cure isn't accepting the gravity of the situation and is being delusional. There is no right answer here. There are points supporting both. You have to recognize that the cure was very, very possible, or you're not doing the story justice
From ep3: "I used to hate the world and I was happy when everyone died. But I was wrong.. because there was one person worth saving. That's what I did. I saved him. Then I protected him. That's why men like you and me are here. We have a job to do, and god help any motherf*cker who stands in our way"
Amen
Can’t believe it’s over can’t believe 9 weeks went by so quick. But it was fun watching you guys react every Sunday. Can’t wait for the next season
So the moral of this episode was...
Don't fuck with Joel.
Cringe
The fact that Marlene supposedly “knew what Joel was capable of” yet only sent 2 guards to escort him 🤣🤣 she had it coming
@@laratheringfabian I mean, she trusted him not to give in to emotion. That's the Joel she knew.
@@laratheringfabian in the real world Marlene would kill Joel right after that flash bang
@@QuangMinh-kd1bn -- She was in his debt, so real world or not, I would remove such a person from society.
When Joel said, “It isn’t for you to decide.” Then Marlene replied with a “or you. So, what would she decide?”
I was screaming “YOU SHOULD’VE ASKED HER BEFORE YOU LET HER GO UNDER.”
I doubt they would’ve let her go if Ellie decided she didn’t want to go through with it and maybe they knew that and decided against it. I can’t be sure. But as a kid, with every adult around me telling me I’m the only one who can save the world, imagine the hero complex that would come with it.
And given the fact that she is 14, I think it’s fair Joel made the decision FOR Ellie, because Marlene did it too, as her ‘godmother’ she did a shitty ass job at taking care of Ellie, didn’t even bother telling the details about what would be done to her even as they took tests and kept her chained in Boston. Marlene made her decision.
Come on now! Don’t suddenly act like you care. Where were you for 14 years, before she became your most important asset?
Exactly! She only started caring when it was convenient for her and Ellie would’ve served a purpose. I think it makes sense that Joel chose for her.
@@mst3KGf yeah. They both made decisions. But Marlene sat with the idea of Ellie being sacrificed for humankind from the get go. She let that thought marinate for months and yet even in the last moment, she still didn’t let Ellie decide for herself. She had to guess “this is what she would’ve wanted.” Maybe, just maybe if she asked, talked to her about it, if she said yes, give her time to talk to Joel? I’m quite certain, if Ellie talked to Joel he would’ve let her go.
I stand with Joel on this 100%. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I'll proudly wear that moniker.
No loving parents would allow their children to be killed, especially at Ellie's age.
@@ro4eva and it's why I stand with a certain Part 2/season 2 character 100%
@@csi2448 You mean that character that ruined the entire franchise ?
They took that pregnancy bite from BLADE 😂
When I was watching this tonight I said out loud I can't wait to see what Nikki and Steven think. Love you guys.
As someone who never played the game, I want you to know I thank you for not mentioning spoilers. Even though it was hard, it’s what I have enjoyed about watching you two. I watched the first episode, and checked comments on other channels and so many people would put spoilers in the comments. I can’t wait to see what season 2 has and what is in the future for your reacts. Thank you again.
Loved this show and so happy to have ridden this roller coaster with you guys! Can’t wait for season 2.
Fun fact: one of the nurses in the surgery was played by Laura Bailey, the voice of Abby in Last of Us 2, & Vex in Legend of Vox Machina.
I think they did the muted sound like that because of Joel's hearing loss and it made us feel like what it's like from his perspective
Laura Bailey the ectress who played Abby is one of the nurses when Joel killed the doctor.
"It wasn't time that did it"
When your anger goes top level, you see red, it’s real. It can seem like a fog, tunnel vision, with all sound turned down. They also said it was a chance of a cure, the doctor didn’t know if it would work or not.
I couldn't keep the tears in, I cried the entire episode and yet again I haven't even played the game!! I think I cried more during this show than any other! I agree with both of you...I like 8 then 6 then 9, but they were all so amazing!!!
Pedro Pascal deserves all the success hes been getting he was so fucking good in this episode. I didnt even recognize him during the shootout scene nor did I recognize the Joel we've been following this entire time he was that good. The subtle last of us theme playing during the shootout scene was so fitting. Absolutely loved Bella Ramseys performance as well. This adaption was near perfect. Can't wait for season 2!
It's official, Joel's a savage. It'll be interesting to see how they both live with the lie. Ellie 'ain't buying it I feel, and the tension is palpable. Great show and great reaction. Cheers!
@@mst3KGf It's gonna be a good problem because Joel saved her life. Hopefully, trust will be a short-term issue.
I'm ready but at the same time not ready for season 2 I hope they change up joel role to last a bit longer but we all know
Steven, your editing is so precise I only watch your reactions and I get all of it. You' have been excellent at this since editing skill since GoT.
Appreciate that very much. I put a lot of time and effort to make these videos as good as possible.
I got to watch this with my fiancé and she has never played the game, knew nothing about it going into it. So fun to see her reaction to everything! 10/10 show for me
NEVER LET A TEENAGER DECIDE TO KILL THEMSELVES.
Joel did nothing wrong. Marlene should’ve gotten consent from Ellie. But she didn’t. They behaved like a baddies, so they got handled like baddies.
even joel wouldn’t say that he did nothing wrong lmao. joel didn’t get ellie’s consent either, and that will come back to bite him.
@@babykermie The only thing he did wrong was not tell Ellie the truth. Marlene was willing to kill Joel. She only told the soldiers to escort him out as a way of paying him back.
Yes, in a perfect world Marlene would’ve heard Joel out and asked for Ellie’s consent, and he would’ve had to live with her choice. That wasn’t the world they were in, though. Marlene wasn’t interested in consent, and she was willing to kill Joel to not have to face that situation.
Great watching your reactions to these shows! So down to earth and real. ❤️❤️
I seriously love Nikki’s hoodie! It’s awesome.
Legit cannot wait for season 2, they did an incredible job with this show
Episode 1 of season 2 tho …
So excited to see live action Scars. Fuuckkk…
@@Straddllw we don’t know how they’ll adapt it, Craig Mazin said Part 2 is a 2 season story we might get Joel for a whole other season before introducing Abby
@@uhuhuh1966Lol dream on buddy
@@chuckiemyers dream on? That’s literally what Mazin said you’re the one that’s in dreamland
I’ve been refreshing my feed for 1x9 reactions and JUST saw yours. Can’t wait to watch. I love y’all!!❤️ I loved the episode, I thought it was really well done for the game lovers, and the just show lovers!! The episode made me an emotional WRECK. Every time I stopped crying, i was crying again💔🖐🏼
From the moment Joel met Ellie, it was his destiny that he would protect her, no matter the cost. Not death, not even the human race being possibly saved was going to keep Joel from protecting Ellie.
It's so crazy how they had Ellie (Ashley Johnson) from the game play Ellie's mom giving birth to Ellie in the show I love that
It’s crazy to see the hospital that I was born in was used to shoot that scene in my old hometown. So proud to see my province featured in this series. Alberta is beautiful. ❤
“That was…too short.” Haha I said the same thing too, even with some of these shows maybe having too many episodes a season, I really wanted just like 10 more minutes!
Gosh, I just finished watching this ep. Damn, it's so hard. I mean, I really hate moral dilemmas. If it comes to a point when something can't be agreed upon, I'd do what I think is right, you do what you think is right. Marlene did what she thought was right, but Joel did what he felt was right.
EDIT: Even though Ellie felt that the Fireflies are good people because of Riley, Someone needs to knock to her head that what happened was a tragedy and her life is much more precious than a sacrifice. People lived without a cure, Ellie doesn't need to die for a cure. it's not worth it.
(NON-PLAYER POV)
They both lied to Ellie. But Marlene lied by omission without giving Ellie a choice to sacrifice herself (a choice no child should be made to make anyway) and was willing to end Ellie’s life. Joel was willing to lie and go scorched earth to save it. I’m with Joel on this one 👍
You also have to factor in that the doctor only thought he could get a cure. The Fireflies were willing to sacrifice Ellie to extract a treatment that may not work, and even if it did, how would they have distributed it? They don't have the power or numbers to mass produce it. And then what happens if a community unreached by them has an outbreak and it spreads again? They were gonna kill Ellie based on a whole lot of maybes. The real complexity is that both sides were right and wrong as well. The Fireflies had the best intentions, but were risking a lot on something uncertain, and whilst what Joel did was pretty horrible, any parent would probably do the same. He just found a reason to live again, and he's expected to give it up?
I played the game before I was a parent, and at that time I 100% was on Marlene and the fireflies side. After I had my daughter, I sided with Joel.
Also agreed as a non player.
I don’t even think Joel would say that what he did was right. It wasn’t about what was right to him, he just couldn’t stand to lose someone again.
They used a real giraffe 🦒 for some of the scenes, you can see some behind the scenes pictures. Where Bella and Pedro are next to a real giraffe 😍
Whenever I finish an episode I immediately come to you're channel and watch your reaction on the episode and you guys never disappoint.❤️
When you tried to being honest but don't want to hurt his feeling : "even tho it's too short, it was still perfect."
legit in the FIRST SCENE of EP1 the expert said "there are no cures, it's impossible to even make them" so ellie would've died in vain
A vaccine is not a cure tbf
To be fair, that scene was in the 60s, before a lot of huge medical advancements, and I doubt they would have considered the possibility of Ellie's unique birth. But the real reason Ellie would have died in vain - in my opinion - is that the Fireflies have nowhere near the manpower they would need to even begin to mass distribute a cure
They reinforced what was said in the opening of episode 1 with the opening of episode 2, where the expert restated, 45 years later, that there was still no possibility of a cure or vaccine.
Medical science has advanced a bit since the 60s. And even if it hadn't, it's possible for someone to be wrong.
But the firefly doctors weren’t 100% sure either Marleen said they think they can make a cure. So if they killed Ellie and there research failed Ellie would have died for nothing. In a way Joel spared her life. Ellie didn’t know they were going to harvest her brain and kill her.
My son was born March 3rd....watching this show before and after becoming a father is wild. I would 100% do what Joel did at the end of this episode in his position. Zero hesitation when it comes to protecting my kid.
I've played the game more times than I can count, and you guys, as parents, gave me some insight that had never occurred to me before. Great review and analysis.
I haven’t cried so hard about a show finale since the vampire diaries last episode I maybe even cried more. I love this show so much I’m so sad to see it gone for awhile bella and pedro are incredible I can’t wait so see more of them in the future, no matter how long it takes.
the giraffe scene was the moment from the game that i was looking forward to the most in the TV series. they remade it beautifully.
Giraffe was real they filmed at zoo
Thank you so much for sharing your reactions to this show-it was truly enjoyable watching & hearing your enjoyment of the series. Genuinely appreciate how you expressed yourselves, on emotional & analytical levels.
I've watched a dozen or more reaction videos (from ep. 1 thru ep. 9) to TLoU, and that's bc of how spectacular the show has been-it's really grabbed my attention, got me thinking & feeling and I'm thoroughly wowed by it...the thrills & the scares, the moral quandaries, the human frailty & resilience (individually & as a species). The acting is absolutely top-notch, the scenery breathtaking, the writing unparalleled in its economy and clarity.
Once again, best reaction channel on UA-cam. Thoughtful and insightful commentary. Keep up the great work!!!
I love her dad jokes I crack up every time 😂
6 and 8 were my favorites in terms of Joel and Ellie, 3 and 5 were my favorite for guest characters and story.
OMG I LOVE THIS COUPLE SM ,HOPE YOU TWO TAKE CARE OF YOUR HEALTH ♥️
We had another game actress cameo. Laura Baily from part two played one of the nurses in the surgery