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UNHINGED & DISTURBING: Chicago Socialite Found In Suitcase | Heather Mack Bali Full Story & Update
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2024
- Welcome back to this week’s episode of SERIALously! In this episode, we will uncover how lust, greed, and hatred turned a mother-daughter luxury vacation into a nightmare. It all started out in the sun-soaked paradise of Bali. An idyllic setting for a mother-daughter vacation. But what started as an exotic retreat quickly spiraled into a chilling true crime nightmare. Heather Mack, just entering adulthood, her elusive boyfriend Tommy Schaefer, and Sheila von Wiese-Mack, a millionaire heiress and Heather's mother, were unwittingly on the brink of a horrific nightmare. Beneath the surface of this tropical utopia, something more sinister was brewing that nobody expected. Secrets were kept, relationships were strained, and hidden agendas were being pursued, and finally, things came to a boiling point that would send shockwaves across the globe. This is no ordinary vacation gone wrong story - it's a case that haunts everyone that was at the St. Regis Hotel to this day.
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This is so old 😒
@@honeybadger3570 she is in court today LMAO
Are you finished whit 10 to life?
Of all the times the police were called to their home, they would have, at some point, known whether or not alcohol was involved and it would have been noted in the police report. Any good attorney would rip that into shreds.
I like your content, but SERIOUSLY, why would such a pretty woman such as yourself get such an ugly and ghastly tattoo(s) of a skull? For someone who purports to want to root out evil, it appears you promote it.
Some people seem to forget that as a parent it’s not your job to raise a child, it’s to raise a future adult. You love them by setting boundaries and being a parent, not by letting them run the house and being their ‘bestie’.
❤ you got it.
I honestly feel more sympathy for Heather than I do her mother. Heather's mom was a terrible person and likely a narcissist who was clearly very entitled and screwing over everyone she met, including Heather. Heather's extreme behavior is a direct result of her mother's parenting. Instead of actually parenting her daughter she just kept calling the police on her. Heather clearly had serious mental illness and Sheila refused to get her help. Most likely because Sheila, herself, didn't want the moniker of having a "crazy" daughter rather than for concern for Heather herself. Heather should have been removed from her mother's care and provided with mental healthcare. Like with every other monster there was a lot of failure to help her before she turned into a monster.
My egg donor for my entire life wanted to be my best friend while bullying me and making me depressed. She is a psycho.
absolutely!!
Is she rabid??? Why is she always biting?
I can understand why you would get caught up in the "Golden Child" thing. After years of infertility, I was finally able to adopt my daughter when I was 38 years old. The temptation to spoil her constantly was huge. Fortunately, I was smart enough to realize that buying her too many things is not the same thing as real love. She needed a parent who would nurture her and guide her at the same time. Healthy boundaries and mutual respect are crucial. If you don't start at the toddler stage, you've already lost 80% of the battle. Giving in to tantrums is easy. Raising a functioning member of society takes much more work, time, patience, and energy.
Wow, you stated this beautifully. Hopefully you can share your wisdom with young parents and get them off to a good start.
You have a truthful perception of understanding ' for that which is good , for the greater whole . Blessings be with you always .
❤
I’ve also found with my children to help them learn a sport or music instrument. The success and hard work pays off. The feeling they get when practicing and hard work pays off is something you can never buy them. It teaches great life lessons too!
I couldn’t agree more. I don’t have children, but my mom sounds a lot like you. My mom and I have always been best friends, but let me tell you Lol she was NOT afraid to be what she was, a parent. Back talking and being a brat was not tolerated…it was unheard of in our house. I was spanked when I needed it, given a stern talking to when I needed it, and given comfort when I needed it and she understood how to do all 3. I remember being told no so much as a kid and never understood why everyone else got whatever they wanted or did whatever they wanted. Meanwhile, she was being the best parent a child needed to become functioning adult. I grew to understand hard work and the reality of the world. Started working at 18. Bought two vehicles before I was 20. Paid all of my bills. Moved out at 22 and now I’m 31 and can look back with nothing but appreciation for the fact that my mom was a parent, not just a friend.
I’ll be honest, the minute you said the dads will was changed to only benefit Sheila’s daughter 5 days before he died in a foreign country where she just left his body…. I definitely thought Sheila killed him. Wouldn’t be shocked at all if that part of one of Heathers stories is true.
I have been looking for this comment and I agree with you. Also the fact that the mom went through all that misery after the husband died is Karma at it's best. The Will's wording was just too specific for it to be a coincident. All that money ultimately led to her death am sure she regretted double crossing his other children as she faced her death.
Not only that, tbut the other children from the prior marriage she would turn off the lights, so it seemed they weren't home. The mother had some mental issues, too, that spiraled to her daughter. Does it make it right? No, but there was definitely a motive to kill .
Totally agree! I think she did kill him!
I’m working on a project at the federal courthouse in Chicago and was here yesterday for her sentencing. I saw her lawyer in the lobby during his interview. 26 years in federal prison!
I hospitalized my daughter at 14 she was angry and hated me for a while. But she is an amazing woman now and said it was the best thing that happened to her because they taught her coping skills for how she was feeling
You are a gift of a person, she's lucky to call you mom.
Yep. Me too! Blessings to you and all you love!😊
My 11 y.o son's behavior is becoming increasingly difficult, and is always angry and hateful towards me, and it's just getting worse.. I'm at a loss with what to do but I feel like if I send him to a therapist he will just make up stories and blame everything on us like he always does and that scares me bc I know dcf can be called immediately, even if there's nothing there. Not to mention, he hasn't opened up to counselors or any other family/friends that have tried to get through to him. I'm hoping as he gets older and matures, and I continue to show him love, but keep a firm hand when he acts out, things will get better.... any thoughts? I'd appreciate any suggestions
@@ninachkah13 send him, unless you have something to hide you don’t need to be afraid of dfs or whatever you called it. Plus I’m sure he would tell the truth before it gets that far. If he doesn’t open up switch the therapist. Try one younger, as young as you can find. Have any of them been younger so far? But do something, his future depends upon it. Chances are without intervention it will not get better.
@@ninachkah13so my oldest just came out of this state at about 15. AnD my middle son is entering it at 12.
My only suggestions would be to make sure he knows you hear him, and you want to understand. But you guys need to be able to communicate and that requiresrespect.
My oldest said HORRIBLE things. Acted terribly. It was SOOO hard. I made sure i didnt let him walk all over me, and for the most part just didnt feed into the teenager tantrum just like when he was younger. If he yells calmly say i understand you havr somethiny you want to tapk about, but i cant understand you this way. Go do something to calm down, and we ca talk after I am forever thakful he took up skateboarding
I feel for you. My husband passed away 5 years age and hes the father of my 3 kiddos at home. If u ever just want to talk im here. I can give uou my email or something.
It definitely helps just having someone to talk to and to remind you that the mean stuff isn't how he actually feels. After outbursts. He Would almost always apologize. It Took a bit to get there tho. And Now there's no more I hate you mom, but back to the regular I love you mom. And it's awesome. I'm still not extremely happy to go through it again. But I do feel more prepared ❤ you've got this and im here if you want to talk.
I'm a nurse and I must say having a blood clot is very common with diagnosis of cancer. Many times cancer is discover because of a clot. So does Heather believe her mom really killed her dad? Probably not, Heather was just very angry her father died.
She’s a pathological liar. The man was in his seventies, had stage four cancer, had just flown, AND was in a totally different climate and altitude. You cannot believe a single thing people like this say.
My mom had cancer and I remember she was hospitalized for a blood clot once
@@-MaryPoppins-No Heather is not a pathological liar what Heather saw in her life was her mother’s resentment toward her father for many years, what did sheila think was going to happen.
Agreed, very common with cancer.
Sometimes when someone dies a loved one NEEDS someone to blame. It's messed up. I know someone who overdosed because he had a secret drug addiction and his family blamed his girlfriend who didn't even use drugs or know he was using drugs. They barred her from even attending his funeral. They didn't even live together and he had been addicted before. It's seriously messed up. She had nothing to do with his death but they couldn't deal with his death and the fact that he alone caused it.
Your storytelling is fascinating. I appreciate your conversational way of presenting. No creepy voice and very authentic! I'm amazed by the amount of content you put out. The quality is superb as each is very unique and there is no predictable boring repetition. I had to give praise!
She has ALOT of content and I just decided to subscribe a few days ago. I love Kimbreleigha too but Annie has amazing content ❤❤❤ Love her channel too
@@cherylashley8658 someone named their kid that? holyy...
@@braidena1633 I'm sorry which name ???
Exactly….like meeting your bestie for coffee ☕️ who says “whoa, do I have a story for you “😂
I agree wholeheartedly !!!
UPDATE: She was sentenced to 26 years in prison for her mom's murder
spoiler!! ahh 😢 it’s my fault
Didn't she say 9 years?
@@JayBirdNJ.she did 7 years of a 10 year sentence in Indonesia and then was rearrested in the United States for conspiracy to murder a US national. For that she was sentenced to 26 years in American prison.
You mean in the US??
@@stevehawkins4301 Yes
I think some of her behaviors were learned from the mother. Like leaving her dead husband in Greece and just continuing the vacation after he had just passed. Sounds like they were both effed up in my opinion. The truth even if told wouldn’t be believed. But I do think mom created that little monster by entitlement, enablement, and example.
I totally agree! I've seen comments over the years from people talking about Sheila being an alcoholic. There's a video somewhere on here showing Sheila cussing out Heather in front of her friends... calling her a whore etc. Someone posted a link to the video under one of these older videos when Heather was being held in Bali. It sucks because people will think you're victim blaming for pointing out partial accountability on both ends
Wow, victim blaming much??
@@ridinwithjake well the shoe fits 🤷🏼♀️
Seems as if you are believing Heather’s lies and decept.
@@nelixsulu6201it’s still victim blaming.
It's so sad when you have half siblings that get treated better than you do..my dad ended up having my brother (half) in 2006 and we nor he were NEVER treated differently we were so happy to have another sibling..we all got the exact same care and attention and his mom even let us stay over so many times especially during the Summer!
That’s cool to hear that years later that matters to you! I have a son with a bonus momma and bonus brothers and they come and stay and play with me too and my daughter is the only girl between our two families of 8 kids!
As it should be!
@@brandyjean7015 I agree! But I also have an exhusband who won’t let any of our oldest son’s siblings come over to play and barely has started speaking kindly to them and it’s been yearssss. So I am thankful for the coparenting with my middle boys side of the family 🖤💙
My older two are half siblings to my younger sons. But just this evening my husband came upstairs after watching a movie saying he was so happy to have that time with “our” son, not biologically his. It warms my heart to know he will always see my older two boys just as much his as our biological sons together. This is so sad 💔
@@CrazyScarey23😊😊😊
What sucks is all the "missing person" reports for her running away is exactly why the system does not take ACTUAL MISSING PEOPLE seriously. Sad af
My older sister is the golden child to our mother and as a result she became quite the narcissist. She's chilled a bit in adulthood but the years of our mom comparing the two of us has done it's damage.
Annie (I really do feel like your bestie calling you that!), I love the new Serialously branding - but more than anything I love your coverage of current cases in so much detail. My other true crime favourites (Stephanie Harlowe, Kimbyrleigha and Danelle Hallan) do awesome deep dives, but you're my go-to for recent cases with the same level of research and dedication! I don't know how you do it, keep up the great work :)
- Kristen
Thank you so much for watching and supporting! 👯♀️
❤🌹😊
I’m British. My favourite from this side of the pond is Emma Kenny. She’s done a lot of expert analysis/opinion work for tv documentary series.
On UA-cam she can do long, deep dives into cases…some of which she’s covered for tv so she’s met some of the family, detectives etc. It’s so much better than the short clips that they use for tv.
I think that great creators like Annie & Emma produce far better true crime documentaries here (AND compassionately focus on victims & families) than tv true crime series do now! ❤🌹❤️
damn lol i didnt realize kimbyrleigha was still making content, let alone that she'd switched to true crime
What a selfish narsasist bipolar phycopath...pure Wicked...she is disgusting and just EVIL....what happens in the dark will come out to the light no one can mock Jeh God, she lives in denial... MENTAL instability...My own adult KIDS are both TOXIC and MENTAL...I stay away FROM TOXIC people, too many people lie and manipulate to deceive innocent people...My heart hurts for what I endured.
I love the new serialously vibe! Good work Annie!
Thank you!!
Broke down Palace scarred me for life too 😅💓 another great episode Annie! As always, so appreciative of your empathy in these retellings.
Brilliantly covered. Thank you. X🌸X
My theory: Heather talked so nicely about the prison because she made a deal with them "You talk about how well we treat you, make our image better in the eyes of the world, then we will let you out early". What do you think?
Deals like that are not unheard of, so yeah, that's probably how that went.
Absolutely. Heather is street smart. She used her gifts of leadership, dance, and community activities to get out early. Narcissists excel at these things. However, not everyone who excels at these things is a narcissist. LOL.
Hey Annie please keep us updated on what happens next month with this case ❣️
All I can say is wow, and great job at story telling Annie, you never miss a beat!
I just started to follow you on here and you seriously make me more motivated to really start my own channel that i had been thinking about. Your vibe and energy during your podcast/video is hilarious funny and i love it!
I lived with the same hell from my mother. She was completely narcissistic, codependent, controlling me & abusing me. I literally met a man 10 years my senior, ( I was 16 at the time ), over the fone, in a completely different state, and moved in with him .
I broken free on the 9th September, 1993, as I had grown big enough to start to stand up for myself physically, the fights were becoming absolutely brutal, and I could see that one day, only one of us would walk away.
30 years on, I still suffer from CPTSD, borderline personality disorder, and many other physical , emotional and psychological problems. I have dedicated my life to fixing the damage done, (and successfully broke the toxic circle of abuse, by raising all 3 of my children with all the compassion, understanding, & love that I myself missed out on in my own 'childhood '.)
I now have a 3 & 1/2 year old granddaughter, whose birthday falls on the 9th September, the same day I left my mother, and met her grandfather, all those years ago, in 1993. Time heals ( nearly) all wounds, when I look into her big, beautiful eyes 💖
Sending light & love, from Queensland, Australia. 💕
I'm glad it worked out for you but 16 and 26 isn't ethical. Sounds like you ran from one situation of control to another. Which isn't healthy either.
That’s so cool my birthday is 9-9-95
Thankyou for sharing ur comment love n light going out to you 🙏🏾🔮💐🥰
We are all here for you! Respect for being strong and continuing on🩵🦋
@@EchoM1995MINE & MY TWIN SISTER, JENNIFER'S BIRTHDAY IS, (6/6/66) YES, WE'RE 20 WHOLE MINUTE'S APART. MY MOTHER SAID THAT SHE, NOR THE DOCTOR KNEW THAT MOTHER WAS CARRYING TWIN'S, BECAUSE OUR HEART'S WERE BEATING SIMULTANEOUSLY, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS SO COOL. I'D HAVE GIVEN ANYTHING TO SEE MY DADDY'S FACE
WHEN THEY TOLD HIM HE'S GOT A SET OF TWIN GIRL'S, AND MY BROTHER BILLY,
WAS ONLY (2) YO AT THAT TIME.
THREE (3) BABIES IN DIAPERS. MY MOM DESERVES A DAMN METAL⁉️😳🤪❤️🤟💋♊✝️🙏🇺🇲🌎🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I truly don't understand why after all that, Sheila didn't actually let the police deal with it. Maybe she thought Heather could eventually change. This is just so sad.
Her not letting the police deal with it tells me she was codependent/possessive over Heather. Their relationship was wrong on so many levels on both sides.
Juvenile Hall 💯
The dancing on the grave and smiling is very disturbing. The worst case of no remorse. "Yep I did it, I don't care, yippee!" 🎉👎😬
@@JaymelShea you have no idea what her reasons were.
A complete lack of parenting skills
This relationship was so toxic it makes ME feel sick to my stomach. Heather was completely out of control and imo her mother fed her mental illness. As for Tommy … I’m truly disgusted by these so called boyfriends who try to convince us they were coerced into murder…
The funny thing is....my story is super close to Heather's. My mom was a handfull to say the least. She was a narcissist, codependent, never had friends, I was the baby and her only person after my siblings moved away, displayed Munchausen by proxy, alcoholic, married 6 times had many boyfriends in between, racist, dated black men on a few occasions, pill popper, couldn't hold down a job, always put guilt trips on me, always needed control over me, never let me leave the house, made me sleep in the same bed as her when she didn't have a lover, she was super needy of me always until the day she died. I would run away when she was drunk and she would lie to everyone saying I was a bad kid, I never laid a hand on my mom though. She put me in a lot of bad situations all my life. Being a child of an abusive mother is tough. You feel a need to protect her but also wish for a life with her not existing, sometimes she would just take all the air out of the room. I think Heather had some major trauma and she needs therapy. I just worry about her child now.
Heather is obviously mentally ill and from all reports Shelia was a good person who only wanted the best for her daughter but she didn't understand her daughters illness hence not allowing her to be hospitalised.
Saying your mom dated racists and black man like why is a evil racist in the same category as black men. Smh
Heathers mother was a living caring woman who spoilt her daughter. She had no fault in this situation and did not deserved to be murdered in such a brutal way. Heather is a narcissistic psychopath
I lived a similar upbringing as well. My parents were alcoholics and you just never knew if you were getting Dr Jekel or Mr Hyde. It was rough. When they weren’t binging, they were wonderful parents. No one had any idea what we were going through. I never told my friends and got straight As at school. I remember my dad chasing me through the house when I was in elementary because I wore his sweater vest without asking. If he had found me, I know I would be dead today. I do believe that some of Heather’s story is probably true. Thanks for sharing your experience btw.
DATING BLACK MEN??? Dude… what the f*** is your problem??? Geez… did you think that you could just sandwich that with a whole bunch of horrible crak and no one would notice??????
What's most shocking to me was that they put the mom in the suite case then in the trunk of a taxi cab then SIMPLY left it there and walked off .Poor cab driver, imagine the horror.
A really stupid move asking to be caught.
@sanchehandeymen 3444: Imho I somehow think that move with the taxi and mother in the suitcase was not a foolish move. This was likely part of her long term overall plan. She was too wise to make such a foolish mistake 😉 I haven't worked it ALL out yet, but perhaps it was her way of conveniently believing she
could 'get rid of her boyfriend (jail)', She likely thought he alone would be blamed
for the murder 😼 One of my daughters has 'Borderline Personality Disorder', so
this girl's behaviour/plan is 'clear as a bell for me'. Just my opinion & assessment from personal experience😓
They seriously didn’t think about the disposal of the body part at all 🙄
They were hoping that the driver was just gonna drive away, but they didn’t get so lucky.
She’s already got for her stories or more now that she told, but four of them that are out there that of all proven to be not true. Nobody should believe anything. She killed her mother because she wanted the inheritance.
Today is three years since I lost my mom. I cannot fathom someone choosing to take their mother from the world, from their life. People like Heather disgust me beyond words. I probably feel more guilt over lost time with my mom than she does for what she did, smfh. Rest easy Sheila. And rest easy Mom, I love you and miss you every day ❤
Not all of us have good mothers
depends on the mother
@@brittanyholtgreven4106
Yeah. But do you murder your crappy mom?
I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost my dad in 2015 and I would completely fall apart if I ever loss my MamaBear
Heather was a product of her mother. We grew up together. Her mom was a raging alcoholic and very abusive. I stopped being friends with Heather around 16-17 because she was getting out of control crazy even for me - a big party girl at the time. But my heart broke that things ended this way and she couldn’t have just left her home and created a new life for herself. These police reports only show Sheila’s story but I personally witnessed the other side of things far too often.
Thankyou for the update & deep dive......You are Wonderful at what You do Miss Annie!!!🤗👍👏🏼✌️
what a insane story! thank you for diving deep in all these stories annie :)
My mom and I bickered ALOT while I was growing up and I remember many times where I said things to her that I absolutely should not have said. I remember her being really hurt by things I said and asking me why I didn’t love her. As I’ve gotten older I realized we fought so much because we are so similar and now I can confidently say she is my very best friend. I could never ever imagine doing anything like this to my mom. Yes I’ve been mad at her, but never have I thought about hitting her or harming her in any way. This girl is CRAZY
Same thing with me and my mom. I am glad I had a chance to apologize to her before she died. She said it was ok and that she knew I didn't mean it. I still miss daily after many, many years.
yes
Same especially realize now that I have a daughter how good my mom was with all my difficult behavior
Same. My mother and I get along a lot better now that I’m older and don’t live with her. I miss her when I don’t see her even for a few days! Even when we I was younger, I’d never imagine hurting my mother! Just arguing with her made me feel bad, I couldn’t imagine! Both heather and her mother seem F-ed up. Seems like they both had their own issues and enabled each other. They both needed help. They needed space from each other…like heather getting her own place…not by doing what her and tommy did…
To me it sounds like Heather had BPD
i am so obsessed with your rebranding. it really adds to your legitimacy and the all around vibe. love watching you grow!!
Great video!! I'm catching up on some of your old videos.
Side note: YOUR HAIR LOOKS AMAZING!!!
Well done, Annie. BTW LOVE YOUR HAIR!
The fact that she only got 10 years and he 18 is absolutely mind-blowing!!!! I cannot get over it. And the fact that they are able to be around one another and care for their child together is weird. I’m happy for Stella, but what the hell?
Money
Sexism. Probably didn’t think a woman could be responsible.
Annie!!!! You are defo my true crime bestie, I watch your videos EVERY DAY. Thank you for your hard work and commitment for your followers. Much love from Mx
I appreciate your research in the cases you discuss and the accuracy in your facts. I've always been interested in true crime, forensics etç.. your realness is refreshing! Thank you for what do!!!! 💜
I would be interested in you exploring and discussing the case of the Lisk sisters in Spotsylvania Virginia in I believe the late 90's. Again thank you!! ❤
55:20 I agree with everything else you said, but it’s important to note that mom could’ve ABSOLUTELY been racist despite marrying/having children with a black man. It happens so, so, so, so often unfortunately. It’s important to avoid this line of thinking.
I have to say that I have never had to call police or 911 the whole time raising them. I never had problems like this. This kid was out of control.
I've lived in my home for 31 yrs!! Yeah it's finally paid off. In those thirty one years the ambulance has only been to my house 3 time's. 1= I fell down my fullset of stairs and broke my tailbone. The 2nd time my 13 yr old daughter held a butcher knife to me and said she was going to stab me!! The cop's got there and they took her to juvie. She stayed there for 5 month's and she came home a different person. She then flew to Alaska to live there for 6 month's. This whole time she was off of all opiates and meth. She meet a guy on the base and he was supposed to be shipped out Nope he went AWOL and we had to pay airline tickets home. It really sucked because he couldn't get a job. My daughter got pregnant only 1 week before they got married in Alaska. The only good thing her husband did was to force her to stop doing meth or my grandson would have been born addicted. Luckily she stuck to that so she didn't loose the baby. My husband and I adopted our grandson and he is the best well adjusted 8 yr old. He calls me mom and has only seen her son 4 time's in almost 9 yrs.I hope his bio bad gets his act together and get to know our precious grandson. He such a great kid and god knew I wanted a boy. Then he loves me and his papa so he will alway live with us and help take care of us when we get old!! I'm 53 and my husband is 58
Yep. Should have been addressed seriously on the 2nd occurrence by pressing charges and sending her to Juvenile Hall if she didn’t care about the criminal record. She would learn not actions have consequences.
Maybe, but also sometimes parents are out of control and are manipulative. If you're the one calling 911, they're not gonna look at you as hard as the kid... Who knows. Sounds like things were all f'd up.
Sounds like Sheila was using police services to discipline her child smh.
Them who? Parakeets? Wombats? Grammatical tossed salad
Hey Annie! Another excellent report. I love you interjecting your personal feelings. I’m like yes!
This is one of the most interesting, and so well presented, I have seen so far!! But I am so curious as to how the trial, outcome of her trial, etc.?!?!? You will probably never see this, but if I am lucky, maybe you will be able to have the time, and chance to fill me in on the rest of the story!!! You do a wonderful job at what you do!
Thanks so much!
Susan
I am hooked on your channel. The stories you cover are some I've never heard of. I love your storytelling and your voice. Keep up the great work.
Love your haircut Anna, both the straightened version and the natural. As usual, you've knocked it out of the park describing this horrendous relationship and death between the 3 of them. Your details and obvious investigation into the entire situations keep me coming back to your channel.
“She’s just always biting her mom like some sort a f***ing rabid dog” 😂😂😂😂 I’m dying
Hahahahaha! This was fantastic lmao
Thank you for all you time and work on these cases. Your awesome ❤
IDK WHY you just started popping up on my feed but I LOVE IT !!
My day is always made when Annie put the new video out which is almost every day! You’re the best! I have an hour drive today and I’m so excited I can spend it listening to you
Annie, you are truly "killing" it in the true crime arena as always. Your rebranding is amazing and i love being true crime besties with you❤
Lol 😂
While I love your channel, I came to UA-cam to get away from being bombarded with commercials. Maybe, not so many (4)? Right now, being able to "fast-forward" through all of them keeps me coming back. But, I do really appreciate your work...
Love your hair Annie!!!❤ Beautiful and classy as always!
I really appreciate the update. I heard about this case years ago, but to find out that she was able to keep her baby in prison was eye opening. And that she has already been released from her Indonesian prison is shocking. I think the boyfriend was manipulated by Heather and his statement rings truer to me than her multiple versions. Please keep updating us on her possible plea bargain in the U.S.
Yes !!!! PLEASE !!!
I remember hearing this case! This girl was so spoiled and out of touch. She even posted on UA-cam after all this. She blatantly didn’t give a single F what she did to her own mother. It was supposed to be here and her daughters get away and she forced her loser bf with her and they callously stuffed her in a suit case. She didn’t even minds prison. Just not a care in the world. Plus she bashed there reputation after to attempt justification.
Yup! I saw her videos that she posted while in jail. She was partying smoking cigs and dancing around to music
@@jordanrodrigues5860 right! Just having a good ol time! Apparently they would do yoga everyday ? Just insane.
How was Heather spoiled, when should just wanted to live her life, her mother Sheila reported her daughter missing every 24 hours that’s Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Sheila could have press charges on her daughter every time she called 911 many times and the mother didn’t, that’s Psychopathic Narcissism cause normally I can see Sheila von Wiese Mack not pressing charges on Heather Mack once or twice but continuing to let her daughter live in the house out of fear 😒 miss me with that.
@@NightWolfXVI she was from an elite family even the other children didn’t get all the fancy clothes and vacations. She stole credit cards from her mother constantly and was never truly reprimanded. That’s spoiled. How could you think she’s not? That’s a highly privileged life!
@@cassieblack1776 Nobody cares about Heather coming from an elitist family, at the end of the day she ran away from her mother for a reason after the father passed away, she stole credit cards from Sheila cause she wanted to get sent to prison that’s not being spoiled these are Red flags.
Sheila Force her daughter Heather to go on a Vacation while her father was laying inside of a morgue she wasn’t allowed to grieve for her father as a child. but y’all think it always the child is spoiled routine instead looking into other Possibilities.
I love the work you put into these! I have a 21yr old and girls go through an insane stage during teen years.. I think her mother underestimated her rage as teenage angst. Also the mother could have been covering her own toxic traits due to potentially being viewed as the cause of her teens behavior. 2 toxic people in a storm results in a bad outcome.
Great coverage, as always.
Thanks for keeping it real 100% and telling us how you really feel about these cases. My husband thought I was crazy for always watching true crime, but I showed him your video about the Cuban guy from Miami who disemboweled his Peruvian girlfriend and he was shook. 😅
Hon I agree but pls give props to her scriptwriter! Annie (wonderfully) reads straight from her script
@@usernameusersurname7223 I would say 95ish% is read from her script. I think the parts where she gets opinionated are the parts that genuinely come from her. 😂 But yeah, she definitely does work hard and her team is undeniably hardworking and talented as well!
@@usernameusersurname7223 who’s her scriptwriter? I agree they deserve props for what they do, but Annie brings the script to life and adds her own opinion/thoughts. It’s not easy to read from a script, not sound like a monotone zombie and keep the viewers engaged.
That video I classify as the worst I've ever heard in my 57 years of living. Nightmare
I love when you chew the murderer out and call them dumb losers 😭
I don't like it so much because it makes it seem like if the murderers were smarter then they would earn and deserve some respect. A dumb murder or a perfectly executed one, it's still a murder. No kudos. No respect.
@@jeanbeans7926 yeah I think it's weird aswell
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this channel !! You cover some absolutely HORRENDOUS cases but give handle it with such grace & dignity for the victims while leaving your unique “ Annie touch “ when talking about the perpetrator ( s) . I’m a fan for life ( or as long as you keep this channel going , whichever comes first ! But seriously, keep these cases coming & I will keeping watching/ listening . Great Job!!
Great coverage, thank you, its just so sad. ❤
This case only proves that no matter how much money and material possessions a parent provides for a child, it doesn't matter. Love and quality time is all a child needs ( aside from basic needs ).
This is so true ❤
Yes ' it's not the amount of time one spends with their child " but the quality of that time , that means the most to the child .
Yup!
Also some people are born psychopaths
@@greensorrel6860 true
As someone whose "mother" fucked up her life in more ways than one and betrayed her multiple times, I do not buy into the "mother can do no harm to her child" bs. They can and they do. Heather's changing her story over and over again doesn't make her look good, for sure, but I think Sheila was a piece of work, too. Just the way she acted when her husband died says a lot about this woman.
I agree.
Someone posted a video link in the comment's section under an older video on this case. The video shows a drunk Sheila cussing out Heather in front of her friends. Calling her a whore etc. I wish I can find that video on here somewhere. But after watching it, I have a different perspective on things
Sometimes kids can also just be bad my brother and I grew up in same home same experiences he was violent and self centered, it was not any fault of my parents
@@nelixsulu6201 If Heather really was acting wild and crazy I can understand the mother saying that to her. If she was acting like a whore....
People don't know what it's like to deal with someone who has untreated BPD (which by the stories according to Heather it sounds like her mom did). I don't condone what she did but I think anyone under the right circumstances is capable of horrendous things.
I went through hell with my oldest. She was extremely mean, doing what she wanted no matter how many times I told her no, always trying to get me in trouble and once she pushed me. She is now twenty four and I don't think there is a single day that goes by that she doesn't tell me how sorry she is. I never wanted her to get in trouble though, so I never reached out to anyone. Heather's case is extreme and I'm so sorry her Mom didn't make it. I wish Heather would have been better and that they could be sitting around being best friends.
I adore you Annie!! Your realness and dedication is unsurpassed!
Always here for the support and how much time and dedication you put into these videos !❤
Girl I have been watching your videos all day every day!!! While I work, while I drive, while I cook, al day!!!! I stop at night time because I don’t like watching crime videos before bed.
I love how sassy you are in this video 🤣 it's the perfect vibe for talking about this absolutely spoiled brat 💕
Perfect timing! It’s become a habit of mine to drink my morning coffee and watch some Annie💜
YET ANOTHER FANTASTIC PODCASTS. Thanks Annie. Sending lots of love to you and your gorgeous family from ENGLAND. X❤❤
OMG, I knew these people. Not the daughter. James Mack was the musical director at the church I attended in Chicago. My boyfriend and I sat with him and his future wife at a picnic. He had so many fabulous stories about musicians he'd worked with. Kind, charming man.
I did think it odd that Heather's dad changed his will 5 days before his death. Then, later in the video, Heather confessed she found out her mom killed her dad. Did Sheila actually kill her husband?
I wouldn't be surprised. There's gotta be SOME reason why this girl hated her mother so much. Seems like she didn't hate any of her other family members this way
I also have seen many times when a child is born and one parent completely dotes on that child, the other spouse gets absolutely jealous and hateful toward their own child, feeling completely replaced by their own kid. Which would cause so many issues within the family dynamics and how each member would feel about the others.
The mom's actions around the dad's death were weird, especially continuing her vacation after he passed. But Heather is a pathological liar so take anything she says with a grain of salt.
No
@ashleywalker1 such a bullsh………!
Annie you are the best...I love how much content you put out & how dedicated & hard you work on both your channel and podcast🌹❣️
This one is chilling! Thanks for sharing Annie! I hadn’t heard of it yet. Gives me the creeps, as it feels like something was happening to Heather from her mom. Needless to say, Heather was calculated for orchestrating that outcome! Chills
Yes!! So excited for you to over this very old but current case. I’ve researched this case heavily.
Annie... I watch several other podcasts but always come back to yours. You are awesome, smart, well informed and the best there is. Keep up the great work.
I believe there is truth to Sheila being an alcoholic, and that she played a big part in their toxic relationship also. Certainly she didn’t deserve to be murdered and I can’t believe anything Heather says Because of all the lies, but I just have a feeling that her home life was extremely toxic. I really don’t think anyone will ever know the full truth about it all tho
Sadly so. I wish these cases were put under scientific research of the possible brain malfunctions and also a comprehensive study of the history of these kinds of murderers' upbringing. We need to figure this out, and the sooner the better.
My mom was nice to my sister, but my sister would throw huge fits and throw things. So I don't think you are completely right
I think Heather is a very disturbed girl and a pathological liar
did she give in and give her what she wanted when she threw fits? even 1 time out of 5? Each time you give in, she will know she will just have to throw their fit a little bit longer. That is why they do it, inconsistency. You buy them everything instead of doing the work of raising them too.@@rosieclown8817
Idk heather just seems like she's blaming her mother the whole time but she was the one who was biting, hitting , runnning away...like maybe she wont let u sleep alone bc u run away and steal all her stuff? Not saying thats a good idea but i mean seems to me like her daughter was giving her hell so she grabbed a bottle to help cope. Heather doesnt make sense saying she would come back bc her mom would threaten to kill herself like if anything if u were so done u killed her...why not just not come back and that way u dont have ro get ur hands dirty🙄
Hi Annie. Enjoyed listening to your video. You voice is very soothing and gets to the point when needed. Thanks
Annie, I hope in your research on babies in jails you discovered that most states have the same programs for those moms determined to not be a danger to kids. Babies stay with moms from 2-4 years, depending on the state. These programs DRAMATICALLY reduce recidivism - it's well-researched. The babies are kept away from the general population - at least in the US.
❤ I always look forward to your videos to listen to while I’m getting ready for work ❤ You work so hard on cases you share with us ❤️ And I forgot to mention how much I love your haircut 💕💕💕 Also, yes your videos are extremely serious but sometimes the little comments you say here and there just crack me up 😆 Thank you for all your hard work and sharing these with us 😊
You've nailed the new branding, 👏🏽 and just adore you in black and white ensembles 👌🏽. Love sharing your space Annie, so proud of you.
I love your commentary! I just recently started to follow you! I will definitely keep watching! ❤
His response sounds very mature. He takes accountability. I respect that. He may have been emotionally manipulated, but it's his reaction to it. It doesn't excuse his actions, yet his response is mature.
You have made me a slacker at my home job and my house needs cleaned because of your videos. And you are adorable. "give me a break my guy" Priceless.
It makes it easier for me to clean house WHILE listening to Annie. Lol
I can relate to that. Yikes.
I have heard this story retold quite a few times but the details you included with your retelling is great!! I learned things I didnt know about this story and I kind of feel a bit for Heather.(small bit) It definitely probably all began with the parenting differences between how her daddy treated her from her mom. Then to lose him later Im sure she was angry and didnt learn to handle her emotions properly. Boundaries are important people.
I also think she has a lot of resentment towards her mom because she accused her mom of being racist. In an interview with True Crime Daily, she told the interviewer when she & Tommy (her bf) confronted her mom in the hotel room, the mom started calling Tommy the N word. I think Heather always knew her mom was racist & has pent up resentment because.... you married a black man & had a biracially black child.... why are you racist?
I started watching your podcast a few months ago, and I am hooked. Thank you for all you do.
This kind of hate towards a parent doesn't just Happen. Either traumatic psychological boundaries were crossed (via parent to child) or the child was somehow a born sociopath. Was there ever footage of shop lifting? Receipts of mother's excessive alcohol purchase?
I was having such a bad day and saw you had a new episode up. Thank you! My day is instantly better. Your coverage is always great and I love your thoughts thrown in. You’re my favourite true crime reporter. Keep up the excellent work! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
weird.
Rabbit Dog 😂😂😂 I’m on the floor Annie 😂😂
I love your shows, I watch as many as I can, thank you for being the victim's voice! I appreciate all you do.
Ugh. The saddest part of this is poor little Stella. Hope she finds a good stable family to love & bond with.
Along with a huge trust fund when she turns 30
New to this page and i dont know how i missed it for so long. Your storytelling skills are perfect. Plan on binge watching every bit of content you posted. Appreciate your opinion on all these crimes.
Annie! Another awesome episode! Also, I jumped online and ordered tree Athena Razor, I was sure to tell them Annie Elise from x10 to Life sent me
Please keep creating, i love your podcast and deep dives, and it really does make me feel like we could be true crime besties!😊
I just love how you tell the story! Sue
At much as I hate victim-blaming, I think momma was addicted to the toxic relationship as much as Heather was. This goes far beyond motherly love ... 😞
Absolutely!
Sick.
I absolutely agree. Let's not forget she left her husband dead at the morgue to galavant off to Capri. I don't want to be accused of victim blaming either but I think Sheila might have been all those things Heather said she was. I felt that every time Sheila called the police on Heather after an attack or theft it was to get attention. Also wasn't Heather the sole beneficiary of her father's will? Why would she have to steal from her mother. Anyways just my thoughts.
@amyhellman325 Heather was a minor when her father died. It's likely that her inheritance was in a trust until she turned 18, which is pretty normal. Annie didn't give many details about the wording of the will, aside from the fact that Heather was the sole beneficiary, so it's possible that Shiela may have been specified a monthly allotment for Heather's care or other verbiage regarding how and when the funds would be paid out to Heather herself. This is just me guessing based on how large inheritances are commonly handled, of course. For instance, I have a young coworker who started receiving monthly payments from his father's estate on his 18th birthday. He'll receive a final lump sum on the remaining balance when he turns 21.
There's a video somewhere on here that shows Sheila being drunk, and calling Heather a bitch & whore. A lot of people in the Oak Park area talked about how Sheila had a drinking problem. I'm not victim blaming however it seems like Sheila was no saint either
You truly have grown, and obtained, such an incredible process, delivery of content, and professionalism that is unmatched. I have enjoyed watching your content for a very long time, and i am so excited for you and all that you do. Amazing job Annie!! I truly hope you are as proud of yourself as we are of you! ❤️
So glad i found this channel!
What a messed up life they both had. My heart goes out to the little girl who stands little chance of overcoming all this chaos. Thank you for your in-depth look into this story. I had heard about it before but you got into the nuts and bolts and now I really don't know what to believe. Certainly not Heather or any of her versions. At least the boyfriend has taken some responsibility and hopefully he will be released and will try to make a life for himself independent of Heather. What a mess.
I love the way you present cases!
From what I have learned from many years of dealing with narcissist, liars and drug abusers, the truth normally lies somewhere in the middle. After listening to Heather’s many stories, it wouldn’t surprise me if she believed that her mother killed her father. Even though in reality it might not be true. She was probably very mad and hurt when her mother left right after her father died. It scared her for life. And maybe her mother was controlling and abusive? But Heather definitely has issues. And her thought process is extremely off the wall! And, unfortunately it’s centered on evilness.
How in the world is she going to behave out and about in the world? Scary.
*scarred
57:51 Of ALL THE LIES and BS...i do BELIEVE this part of it. 💯 It lines up to why she kept running away. Why Shelia never pressed charges. Heather needs to pay the price and take the consequences for what she did but I truly believe she was molded into the monster she became by Sheila and that she was a terrible excuse for a mother
I love Annie. So amazing that she spoke for almost 6 minutes not one word about this case and I'm still enjoying it. I think she has one of the best podcasts out there
I remember watching a docu about this case years ago! That girl is the epitome of unstable.
Hi Annie, I have been watching you for years and have watched or listened to 90% of your episodes and or podcasts, I wanted to let you know I think your content is amazing. I am in Australia and wanted to say hello and and I wait up each night to watch or listen. I wanted to say thank you for keeping me updated with all crime stories. Do you think you could do any from Australia?
Stephanie harlowe does some from Australia ans well as kimberleigh