Canon EOS R5 - More Than Worth The Upgrade From The 5D Mark IV - Review - Canon R5 vs. 5D Mark IV
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- Is the Canon EOS R5 worth upgrading from the Canon EOS 5D Mark III or IV? In this review Canon EOS R5 versus Canon 5D Mark IV video, I show sample images from the R5 and 5D Mark IV and give my initial thoughts during my first night of shooting with it. Though there are endless aspects that could be discussed, the topics I cover here include, bokeh, the multi-controller speed, Eye/Head AF, the electronic view finder, ergonomics, IBIS, high ISO, shadow recovery, subject tracking, and a couple missing features. Since filming this video I have already photographed multiple weddings, portrait session, senior photos, and engagement sessions. The R5 is absolutely incredible!!! My hat is off to Canon. The R5 is a huge upgrade from the 5D Mark IV! It is now my personal favorite camera of all time!
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Best video for the R5 I've seen. Thanks for showing the features in real life situations and not just speaking about the features.
Thanks so much for the kind comment! Glad it was helpful! My goal was just to use it and tell what I thought of it! The more I use the camera the more I am impressed with it!
0:58 - Bokeh
2:18 - Multicontroller speed
4:22 - Electronic viewfinder
5:17 - Ergonomics
7:26 - IBIS
8:58 - High ISO
10:23 - Shadow recovery
11:41 - Subject tracking
14:43 - R5 missing features
16:27 - Conclusion
Thanks! Appreciate you finding those times for me!
8:59 - Princess Leia mode!
Thank you so much for your video on the R5. I currently have the Canon 5D mark III, and have been wanting to upgrade for a couple years. Thanks to your wonderful input, I get a new birthday present :)
This is the video I needed to see as a 5d4 owner. Can’t wait for my R5 to be delivered
You are going to LOVE it! It is a really nice upgrade from the 5D Mark IV which is still a great camera!
The exact review we all needed. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! All the best in your decision!
This comparison was the most helpful video thus for me with the R5, showing real life comparison shooting against the Mark IV now. I really appreciated you going over the change of button positions. That was a first to see and has been something I've been concerned about, but not anymore! It's helped me see that I really do want the R5 and will spend a little more to buy it! I really appreciated your video and kids,and clean cut, happy face,happy family video! I'll be watching more.
Thanks Catherine! Glad it was helpful! All the best!
I’ve watched several 5D IV vs R5 videos, this is the one that made me take the upgrade plunge. Thanks!
Great to hear! Hope you love it! I have been using it over a year now and like it all the more every time I use it. All the best!
Very helpful explanation and comparisons. Thanks for posting!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great review. Focussing on all the important aspects for everyday shooting. Thanks!
Thanks for the kind comment! Glad it was helpful!
Hello, thank you very much for this really practically helpful video. Never seen so much relevant content per second about the R5 :) Sold! Wishing you all the best, be blessed!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for watching!!!
I moved from 5d4 to the R5 as well, really happy, good to see you enjoying the R5! Nice to see a photographer react too, so many on UA-cam are more focused on video
It sure is a fun upgrade! But you are loving it!
I debating on doing the same.... is it really that big of a difference?
Davidson Loriston ; the difference is huge! The Autofocus is amazing, my 85 EF 1.2 was great for portraits but had to overshoot a lot with it for anything else, however with Eye AF, and quicker focusing the RF 1.2 rarely ever misses, and becomes good enough to use as a reliable event lens - rarely missing a shot! the IBIS means you can shoot at speeds slower than you could on the 5D4, and the detail and colour in the shadows is significantly better! I always preferred the colours on my 5d3 to the 5d4, but the R5 raw files handle amazingly well! The crop factor is huge, and the files really feel like you are seeing much more than you can with your eyes! Definitely a camera I will be happy with for many years to come... definitely a camera that will reignite creativity and make every project more satisfying :D
@@davidsonloriston378 huge difference. Let some the lenses are worth the upgrade. Even the widest of them at f1.2 are sharp as hell shot open. Those are said to have a resolution beyond 100mp. And not forget the special lenses that are available now.
I love love love your review ;-) wanna jump right out to the next camera shop and get this baby!
Thank you so much! Glad it was helpful. If you do get it, have fun!
Great comparison! I'm upgrading my 5D4 and so excited for my adapter to arrive. Thanks for taking the time to compare these two!
Glad it was helpful! You are going to freak out when you use it for the first time!
@@ShaneLongPhotography Been playing with it the last few days, SUCH a great upgrade from the 5D4! :)
One of the best and most informative reviews I have seen so far. Thank you for covering how buttons and moving focus point works with the R5. As a 5d4 user this was one of the things I was concened about. Good to finally se someone talking about photography and operation of the camera in general. Nice job.
The 5d4 also have face detection. I think you missed that when your son walks twoards the camera.
Glad it was helpful! I try to make my videos real to how I use my cameras! You are right on the face detection on the 5D4! It is super accurate for up close portraits! He was too far away and the 5D4 couldn't find his face :( But yeah it wasn't my best focusing job ever as I was trying to hold the camera I was recording on. Haha!
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using face tracking you should with 5d4 have to used all the collimators with the option which allows you to determine the starting collimator of the Ai servo (aufocus selects the relevant collimators for tracking the face).
It's obviously not more efficient than the R5 but you would have had many fewer missed photos.
If the majority of photographers had results as bad as your Ai Servo demonstration on the 5d4 it would have been known quickly :)
Once again, this fact will not change the conclusion: the R5's autofocus is much better by far :)
Thank you very much for your comparison which is very useful.
Great video Shane, looking forward to using mine and the control ring adapter when they arrive on Wednesday
Oh boy! You are going to flip out! It is so much fun!
Awesome - this is my upgrade path and the big cost now feels justified. Can’t wait to get mine.
Just keep saving! I am sure it will go on sale eventually!
Great video dude!! Got an eos r 5 and loved using it during my last 2 engagement shoots
YES!!! Isn't it so much fun to shoot with?!?!
Great review, just subscribed. Thank you!
Thanks for the sub! Glad you liked it!
Thank you so much for this video. New subscriber!
Thank you Lucia!
finally someone using the R5 for what is was meant for photography!! Great video new sub here:)
Agreed, it was 'meant' for photography, but it was unfortunately marketed as an 8K video camera.
A major blunder by Canon's marketing department.
It is an awesome stills camera!!! Thanks so much for following along! I have more R5 and RF lens videos in the making for stills photographers!
Loved the review ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks!
Huge improvement over the 5DIV, thanks for thr video! Love my R5
Isn't it fun!?! Thanks for the kind comment!
Hi , great detailed and real world review. A couple of other points that might be useful to people are as a hybrid shooter (coming from the 5d4 to the R5) there is the benefit of being able to shoot video through the view finder which really comes into its own on sunny days when the LCD is often so hard to see on the 5D4 . Another is for us retired folk with bad knees the flip out screen makes a heck of a difference for getting those low or overhead shots it is the one thing that if the 5d4 had had I would have kept it longer.
Those are great points! Doing video through the screen is really nice outside on sunny days. And I didn't even think about the bad knees aspect! Happy photographing!
Such a happy photographer, great for you!
Thanks so much for watching! It was a really fun night to finally play with the camera! Jesus gives me all the joy!
Thank you for a great review
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
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Nice review. Thank you.
Peanuts brought magic to the review 🌟
Thanks so much for watching!
very good review, and yes it is so much better to see a photography review rather than a videographer review
Glad you liked it! I have my full still review coming soon!!
13:20 LOL, I thought I was the only one. Great vid. R5, can't wait to upgrade.
Haha! Yeah for sure. The other day I realized how many less photos I have been taking with the R5 just because the focus hits every time!
@@ShaneLongPhotography I'm so looking forward to that!
You made up my mind. Thanks
Glad I could help!
Love the video as its one of the first in depth videos that talks about still photos and not video. Thank you for sharing. I believe you stated at the end of the video that you shot a 10hr wedding with this camera? How many batteries did you go threw? How long does a battery last when shooting a wedding? I have the 5dsr and I can put that on at 4 in the morning and it will last most of the day. Thanks again for a great video.
You are welcome! Yeah, I have shot multiple weddings now and the go through about 3 batteries. I use two cameras at the same time, but they are both usually on. The other night I put in an old battery, took 370 photos on a portrait session and had 75% battery life left at the end of the shoot. So the battery life is good. I have like 8 of those batteries so it isn't a big deal to me!
Oh man you are making me want to upgrade from my 5D4!
5D IV is a great camera! Loved it! If you don't have the money for the R5, keep saving. It is incredible!
Great video! Love the bokeh balls observation. Question: did you ever find out how to not have the screen go black when shooting in servo mode on the R5?
Thank you! Unfortunately no. I have gotten used it it, but I still wish it didn't happen.
This was a great comparison! Looking forward to your ‘real life’ comparison between the R5 and the R6. Very interested to see what you would recommend after testing out both.
Thanks! Yeah that camera looks amazing!!! No doubt it will function just like the R5 but just have less pixels and a few less bells and whistles. Hoping sometime to play around with it! I have like the R5 so much I just ordered a 2nd one as I shoot with 2 cameras!
Shane Long Photography Wow that’s amazing!!! I was thinking to save up for the R6 since it’s more feasible to attain that camera within a shorter period of time. But seeing what the R5 is capable is making hyped😂
Can I use EF S18-55mm IS II & 55-250mm IS II with R5 using an adapter and will it work properly?
You sure can! And the 55-250 has great reach with it!
Cool video, will be upgrading! And a special thanks to Penit for her modeling!
Thanks Eric! You are going to love this camera! The more I use it the more I am impressed! And I agree, she crushed the modeling ;)
Nice video, and agree it will be worth the upgrade for photography with the extra resolution and the new processor, as I guess the EOS-R was the mirrorless variant of the 5DMKIV! Thanks, well worth the watch! Wow those selective autofocus points move FAST!
Right! That seems like how the whole camera is: a mirrorless 5D that they thoroughly refined and greatly improved!
I’d love to see you do a similar shooting comparison between the R5 and R6 so we can see the differences resolution makes, etc.
Thanks! A couple of my friends are buying the R6 so maybe when it arrives I can borrow it from them to do a comparison video!
@@ShaneLongPhotography That would be excellent as i loved this review, the best i have seen so far, and i am unsure which one to buy so for you to do a comparison would be brilliant :)
Yes, the mRaw and sRaw on the new mirrorless cameras is something I'm really missing. They were fantastic options for many situations I used to shoot.
agreed!
Thank u for the review
You bet! Thanks for watching!
Your video convinced me to pass on a 5D4 and just save my money for an R5!
Great video, very informative. I love my 5d Mark IV, I really want to like R5 mirror less camera but I just can't do it.
Thanks for the kind comment! The 5D Mark IV is a great camera! It never let me down!
Thank you SO MUCH for the video, Shane!
I've always had an issue with the weight of full-frame cameras.
I've also always said the only way I'd ever leave my beloved Mark II was to make the jump to mirrorless.
Unfortunately I kept waiting for mirrorless technology to catch up.
I think this is it! The R5 looks amazing!
PS: Not being a professional photographer, budget could be an issue, though 😬 Santa?
Glad you found it helpful! I have my full still review coming soon!!! Yes, keep saving or ask Santa because it is so worth it!!!
Cool Video! I've got the 5d4, the R and the R5 and I totally agree with you, it's the far superior camera. A little thought about your comparison: It would be helpfull to show Lightroom in Develop mode and press "i" so it shows the settings/information for the pictures
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the tips! I know I like seeing other's settings too!
I've had the Eos R for a year and was great for portraits.. I like the R5 because I do a lot of animal photography now as well as Landscapes. The extra megapixels make my landscape photography phenomenal and the extra megapixels also allow me to crop especially when I'm shooting birds in flight. Sometimes the birds are just so far away I'm talking almost a thousand yards. And I can still get usable images
Totally the R5 is amazing with animals. I recently bought 100-400 so I could shoot birds, but like you I find myself cropping in a lot and the R5 is great for that!
I’m impressed how much of a cooperative subject your daughter is. You must have bribed her handsomely?!
Haha! Thanks! She was just super excited to go to a field and pick flowers!
Great video! Was wondering why you didn't use DPAF for face detect tracking on the 5D4? Whenever I used my Mark IV, I found that worked very well. Obviously the R5 DPAF II is vastly improved though.
You are right! I should have! I have loved that mode! In the moment I missed that. I was trying to just use a more automatic mode to compare it to the ease of the automatic mode of the R5.
Nice review sir how i wish i could buy that camera someday
Thanks so much Sedric! Keep saving! It will come down in price eventually.
Good to see that🙏🏻 can I ask you with which program you work the raw files of the R5? i can't with Photoshop camera raw.
Great question! Adobe DNG converter. It is a free download! Then I import those files into Lightroom. helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html
Finally a review showing the camera comparison I needed and being used for the things i shoot and the way I shoot. Well done and thank you! Also...I may hate you now because I am probably about to spend $5k. Lol
Hahaha! Thanks John! The R5 is absolutely incredible!! Big upgrades in usability over DSLRs. Don't spend all your money!! :)
Wow. Very informative video. I love the 5Dmkiv but the R5 seems like it's from a different planet
I loved my 5D Mark IV as well! And it still is a great camera. But it is really fun to see some of the new tech in the R5!
@@ShaneLongPhotography In some reviews I've seen they say that the ISO performance of the 5Dmkiv would be superior to the r5 above ISO 200. What did you find ?
I am in the should I shouldnt I camp as well... I have the money... but Im not sure its worth the upgrade - but im so TIRED of missing focus on 5dm4 !!!!! Anyway thanks for this... I never thought of mirrorbox cutting bokeh as a flaw but yeah crazy .....thank you
You are welcome! Hope it helps. There is no rush. So take your time and keep thinking if it will be worth it for you and your needs.
Love the autofocus on the R5. I'm also thinking of buying this or a 5dmk4.
It is such good AF!
I've decided to go R5. Will wait for the Mk2 version and compare it to the Mk1. Right now I dan get a brand new R5 from Canon for $3300. I only shoot photos, so if all the tech in the Mk2 is video centric, I'll get the Mk1!
Thanks for a great review. Coming from a 5d4 myself but just picked up the R5 and really look forward using it.
Based on you usage so far would you ditch back button focus in favor of the native AF and having a huge investment in EF lenses would you stick with those or start migrating to RF glass?
Glad it was helpful! You are going to love it! I rarely ever use back button focus now. The new AF is perfectly accurate and very smart. And when needed, dragging the single point AF around works great. I have been adapting my EF lenses the last couple years and they work really well on the R cameras. That said when I am shooting a wedding it has become very cumbersome having an adapter on one lens but not on another. Trying to switch the adapter and then put the caps on... So just this week for me, I have switched over all my main lenses to the RF lenses. They are insanely good! I will have reviews up on those new lenses eventually hopefully!
I love the R5 it has been great for me. I've been doing everything from portraits to Formula Drift. So it really is a great camera for everything including sports. I'm also from Minneapolis area as well by the way!
Nice! Isn't it fun?! Great to meet another Minneapolis photographer!
@@ShaneLongPhotography this camera has made shooting for me even more fun. I have become more comfortable shooting different styles and subjects by using this camera. I'm debating on what lens I want to get next. Not sure if I want to go with the 85mm 1.2 DS or the 50mm 1.2. I've been doing more and more engagment photos and hoping to make my way into shooting weddings this fall. My second camera I have the 50mm and 70-120 2.8, so I think the 85mm may be the one I choose.
I moved from the 5D Mk4 to the EOS R, and now the EOS R5. I love it but I was worried when I got the *temperature warning* icon while shooting just stills. This happened to me at three weddings on both of my EOS R5 bodies. The only way I've found to get around it is to turn the camera bodies off when not actively shooting. Other that getting worried about overheating I haven't had any issues at all and absolutely love these cameras!
I plan to make a UA-cam video next month on my journey from the 5D Mk4 to the EOS R and now the EOS R5.
I had the same progression! Would love to see your story. Interesting on the overheating. I haven't have any issues at any of my weddings or even doing sports shooting 20FPS. But you might be on to something with turning it off. I have a habit of turning it off after every set of photos. My thumb just naturally turns it off. And because it boots up sooo much faster than the R, it is almost instantly ready when I need it.
@@ShaneLongPhotography - Coming from the 5D Mk4 I'm used to keeping my camera bodies on all day. Didn't seem to be much of a problem with the EOS R but now with the EOS R5 bodies I had both of them throw up the *temperature warning* icon before the ceremony even began, but that was leaving them on all the time. Ran through two of the "old style" batteries in the grip on one body in less than 4 hours and the other body with two new batteries in the grip made it all the way through just fine. I'll reply to this thread when I get my video up, probably in about a month. Just subscribed, thanks for the great content!
@@ark8tct - *heat issues* - It depends on the situation, but I can tell you that if you're shooting only stills, you won't have any trouble at all. I've been using two EOS R5 bodies since they first came out (I got up at 5am to order them on the release date), which has been over a year and no problems at all when shooting stills.
This year I've been doing more video than previously (although still images remain the bulk of my work), and I've only had the *red* temperature warning appear once. It was during a very long wedding ceremony while I was recording in 4k HQ mode. It made me nervous but I got through the entire ceremony (over an hour long) and no problems.
The *temperature warning* icon that I occasionally get while shooting stills is *white* and doesn't affect anything or prevent me from taking images. I've seen other videos that describe the possibility of it being linked with the C3 video settings in order to warn you that the camera is getting warm, in case you're shooting hybrid and about to switch from stills to video. It makes sense but I haven't had the problem often enough to worry about it, so I haven't made any changes to the way I do things.
I still haven't made my UA-cam video (hopefully in the next month or sooner) detailing the 5D Mk4 vs the EOS R, and EOS R5. There are so many good things about the 5D Mk4 compared to the 5D Mk3 that it deserves its own video!
*Bottom line* - If you're using the 5D Mk3 and considering upgrading, I would *strongly recommend* going mirrorless (EOS R, EOS R6, or EOS R5) instead of the 5D Mk4.
With the EF to RF lens adapter you can use all your existing lenses (including the EF-s lenses for crop sensor bodies) and they'll be sharper than you've ever seen.
When I got the EOS R, my only regret was that I didn't do it sooner. Autofocus is so accurate it feels like I'm cheating!
I've written a lot about this stuff on Photography on the Net, so if you get a chance to check out those forums there's a ton of information from others as well.
Oh, and you asked about character/color/warmth, and I can tell you that the first day I shot the EOS R (owned it for less than 12 hours), I shot Metropolitan Fashion Week and was really impressed with the image quality over the 5D Mk4. It wasn't a dramatic difference, but I really liked what I was seeing in the shadows.
Hopefully this helps answer your questions.
So I have this Canon 5D Mk IV and I've been doing my homework on the R5. May think of getting it next year when the price should drop. But I will rent it out in Oct. for a photoshoot and football game. Test before you buy.
Great idea!!
One last thing moving the autofocus points I like to use my thumb on the back of the touchscreen. I'm left-handed so I use my left eye dominant and I'll use my left thumb on the left bottom corner and I can hit Focus points super fast
Great call! The thumb on the screen mode is super fast! I am left handed too!
Best review so far. Pity that in Australia there’s little change from $7000. I have a couple of questions
Can you use the batteries from earlier Canon cameras?
What size is the c raw?
Glad it was helpful! So sad it costs so much there! My sister once lived in Australia! Yes you can use the older batteries. I have batteries up to 10 years old from my old 60D and they still work great! File sizes are very manageable. I just took two filesto compare for you at ISO100. The full RAW photo was 40mb. The CRAW was 20mb. Hope that helps!
how dare you use this camera for photography?!)) Very very awesome review, thank you!
HAHAHA! Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for the kind comment!
Thanks Shane for the review. I also have the MK4 and the IDX but focusing has always been an issue trying to shoot wide open, and capturing sharp images. I have all the fast glass 35 50 85 100 105 Sigma 135 I love shooting wide but miss so many great photos. I took out 4 RF lenses from Canon and used them with the R camera. 28-70 50 85 and the new 70-200 It was an amazing experience being able to shoot, compose and not have to worry about focusing. You are right the focus system is excellent and the R5 will be even better. Others have mentioned its not a game changer and may not be. Depending on how and what your are photographing. But for most I agree this will be such a joy to work with. I was a film shooter when I started. I had a Hasselblad and 7 primes lenses. When I switched to digital. I purchased the IDS that was the best camera on the market then, and the only full frame. I paid $11,400.00 Canadian. Just for the camera. Then also purchased a number of lenses as well. That was tough selling off the best Zeiss lenses and switching. At least now changing systems, you can use your EF glass and slowing change over when ready. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Photophil! I think you are on to something there! I had the same problem shooting wide open with fast lenses. The R5 has solved all of them! In my next review coming soon, I tested out the R5 with the RF85 1.2 with running subjects, it work perfectly! Thanks for the comment All the best!
@@ShaneLongPhotography thanks Shane I did get the opportunity to try out the R5 R6 and a few RF lenses. So I ordered the R5 RF 50 and RF 85 Great glass and an amazing camera like you said Thanks for sharing your video It was excellent to hear what you had said
This was a great video... I have been shooting with the 5DM3 2 years after it came out... was thinking of doing an upgrade to the 5DM4 because the prices are dropping but now thinking I should get the R5 or R6 instead. I 99% of the time do wedding and family pictures so don't need allot of the features but having great focus and better ISO would be so helpful. I somethings take 30 pictures of the bride coming down the isle in AI servo mode just to get 10 usable photo's. Thinking this one I won't need that many which will make for faster editing.
Hello! Thanks for the comment! You are onto something there! I literally was just saying to my wife how many fewer photos I take now that I know the focus hit every time. And I have now been shooting couples walking down the aisle with my 85 at 1.2 and it hits every single time! I definitely remember like you said having to overshoot situations hoping that the focus hit! Those days are gone with the R5 and R6! I would HIGHLY recommend them over the 5D4. All the best in your decision!
@@ShaneLongPhotography Thank you for the info and reply. Another question for weddings I don't need 45 Meg images because normally 16x20 is the largest anyone ever purchases. So with the R5 is I turn down the res to medium I think your video showed it at 21Meg which should enough so the question is shooting in lower res a bad thing or should I have the mind set I paid for 45Meg so I should shoot at 45? I realize this question is a personal preference but looking at your website your allot more skilled then me so your opinion matters to me. Thank you
Hey William! So I thought you could shoot the R5 in a lower resolution but you only have the option of shooting at 45mpix or compressed raw. I shoot at the full resolution and then I have the freedom to crop if I want. I currently export my photos at 30 mpix. The R6 will print 16x20 no problem, so if you don't do drastic crops, that camera will serve you very well and you will definitely save some money! And if you get the R6 you won't have to buy the more expensive memory cards. Two of my friends have the R6 and they really like it for weddings. Hope that helps!
never knew a mirror box affected bokeh. Cool
Right? It used to drive me crazy with the big bokeh lenses!
love the review, just what I’ve been looking for. I’m looking to upgrade from the mk3, mainly for photography rather than vids. Would you recommend the R5 still? Any other brands or models you’d recommend looking at in Nov 21? Thanks so much!
Thank you! Been using the R5 for over a year now and have zero regrets. The camera is absolutely incredible. The R6 is also amazing if you want to save a little money. I don't know the other brands very well, but I am more than happy with the R5!
Other than customizing buttons/dials, do you change any other settings? Like lowering noise reduction in-camera? Or pretty much leave settings like that at default.
Great question! I don't do anything with in camera noise reduction. I just do that in post if I ever need to. But I do change A LOT of settings on my cameras. I customize them so I can quickly get the shot as fast as possible. Maybe sometime I will make a video on that!
Can you explain to me the test you were doing with the boy walking toward you, on the 5div please? How do you set up the camera to track a subject, through the viewfinder, and take stills?
I've never understood this. So for wildlife I have manually focus on moving subjects to get stills but it seems you could track a moving subject through the viewfinder and get stills?
Thank youl
Hello Stephen! Sorry for the slow response! I have been crazy busy over here with wedding season and haven't had time to check my UA-cam comments. Yep you can totally track a subject through the viewfinder! Maybe this article will help you out! blog.lensprotogo.com/2017/05/03/understanding-canon-5d-mark-iv-autofocus-af-points-af-areas/
Hi thanks for the video I'm thinking of change to R5 from 5Dmark4 but you used only EF lens with adapter or RF lens and if is EF only how good responds the camera with does thanks in advanced
Both! I have been using the RF 50 and RF35 and adapting all my old EF lenses. The EF lenses work really good. Better than they did on my 5D Mark 4. But it is becoming a little cumbersome with the adapter so I am starting to sell my EF lenses and I am buying mostly RF lenses now. The RF lenses are incredible!!!
I don't have the R5 in my hands yet but could the black screen you mention be due to the shutter mode you are using. I see there are 3 modes -Mechanical Shutter - Electronic 1st Curtain Shutter & Electronic shutter. I think the electronic 1st Curtain is the default.
Thanks for the suggestion! You are correct that it came defaulted to the electronic 1st curtain! I just tried out all three and the all gave me an initial black screen though the electronic shutter was very brief. I need to play around with the settings more to figure it out. I called CPS, but it was still too new to the rep that she didn't know the answer. If you figure it out let me know! Hope you get it soon!
Thanks for doing this.
How does the flash comparison size up?
Hey Donna! Very similar. At the wedding I shot 2 days ago, I had a 4 flash setup going during the reception. Not a single issue with the R5. And it focuses in the dark waaaaayyy better than the 5D. It blew me away. Face tracking during the dance!
The screen on the R5 is amazing. Not enough love goes to it. I feel more in tune with the art(Eos-r for fun). With my Sony it feels like a machine. I know it’s in focus, but thats about it. Good work. On the video!
Ps: Canon please remove the record limit and give me Canon log 2/3. I would love to get rid of my Sony stuff. It really looks like the AF can be trusted(the reason I shoot sony)
Yeah the screen is fantastic!
Sony's AF is really good too! Fun to see the camera companies coming out with all these innovations!
Hire it first
There is nothing that no other manufacture has not done. They have only copied. No innovation
Video it heats up badly
I have to say this is the first time I've ever seen this mirror box issue with bokeh that's really interesting!
Yeah isn't that interesting! I noticed it with I got the EF 85 1.2!
Hey Shane, great video. In your experience shooting full weddings with the R5 how was the battery life?
Hello! Great question! I hope to cover it in my next video! I usually go through about three batteries. With my 5D Mark IV maybe it was two. Not a big deal at all. I have like 8 of those batteries now since Canon has kept the same basic model of the years! The other night I did a one hour family session and took 370 photos and was at 75% battery life at the end of it. Hope that helps!
I kinda only watched this video because you're based in Minneapolis and I spent most of my time there before the coronavirus even though I live in Fargo for the moment. I have everything except Canon. I'm happy to see them do better with the camera body but the lenses are too expensive for me. It's the same reason I don't have but one Nikon Z lens. I have more Sony because they had the eye focus and that made my entry into photography easier. When I start getting paid, I might get there R5 but I'm likely to get there RP if it goes on sale this holiday season and the 35 f1.8. I've shot with it. It blew out the highlights too much but I figure that may have been be not being used to Canon differences.
Thanks for the comment! I have never used the RP but I am sure it is great for the price! Sony also makes great AF cameras. All the best!
Really liked your informative video. I am a professional photographer, and will only shoot stills. No video work. What is your suggestion on memory cards. I'm confused about what is a CF Express and UHS ll, and how big it should be. I'm not technical.
Hello Penni! Great question. Here are links to the SD and CF express cards I recommend! I usually use 64 gig cards, but I sometimes use 128 if I want to put a whole wedding on a card!
CF Express Memory Card: amzn.to/3iQ6ajV
Sandisk SD Card: amzn.to/2ZgLiKJ
CF Express Card Reader: amzn.to/38Ih3jd
Alright well here a solid question.
Looking to upgrade from Mark II full frame( got it used for under $300) I have one full frame lens.
Gonna be picking up the 70-200 2.8 lens
Is it better( I don’t shoot professionally)
To get the mark IV and an EF 70-200 2.8 lens
Or the 70-200 lens an adapter and the R5?
Yeah I know price is big.
Great question! Having used both extensively, I would personally go with the R5 and the adapter any day! The AF, and the camera as a whole, is on a whole other level. It's truly something you have to have in your hands to feel. And if you don't need the 45mpix, look at the R6. Both would be big upgrades! Have fun!
have you tried comparing jpeg's ? i shot RAW+jpeg large . . if you compare the image raw seems obviously better on the R5 but jpeg on the other hand looks a bit smudge , i dont know if its the settings . . . but i shoot both at 1/80th f2.8 iso 800 with r5 using adapter , PP : standar . .( tho at 1/80th with IS sometimes it looks blury on R5 even on RAW which is weird , 1/8th looks sharp )
Hey Stephen! Sorry I haven't compared the JPEGs as I just shoot RAW. Interesting observations!
How about battery life? I saw it was rated at 220 shots per charge with the EVF vs the 900 or so for the 5dmk4. How does this translate to the real world?
Hello! Great question! I hope to cover it in my next video! I usually go through about three batteries. With my 5D Mark IV maybe it was two. Not a big deal at all. I have like 8 of those batteries now since Canon has kept the same basic model of the years! The other night I did a one hour family session and took 370 photos and was at 75% battery life at the end of it. Not sure at all how they come up with those ratings! Hope that helps!
I want to know what is the maximum ISO you think is possible in 5D Mark IV and if you use single point AF with servo and aim in the subject, you get more pictures in focus (more accuracy)
Great question! For me, I rarely shot above 6,400 ISO. Any higher I would just use a flash at wedding receptions. I did get better AF accuracy with single point and servo but the main advantage is the screen wouldn't go black in between shutter clicks. Hope that helps!
this a video I have been waiting for because I have the 5dmk iv and the Panasonic Lumix sh1. great video the only i thing that is and upgrade for me us the IBS but honestly it not worth me jumping out 4k jus for IBS and i will also have to pump money into RF lense th R5 in just not worth for me right now.but thank you for the video. 😂
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for watching! Fun to have so many great camera options right now!
Hi, not sure if you shared what adaptor you purchased. Thank you
Hey Teresea! Here is a link to the Canon Control Ring Mount Adapter! amzn.to/2XO5RxN
Interesting video!!
But I have not seen/heard anything that would justify paying an additional $1500+ for an upgrade from 5DM4. That is, I did not see/hear about any new feature that will improve my photography above and beyond what I am getting from my current 5DM4. I did see/hear about "nice" new features but none "essential" features based on my usage of my 5DM4.
I think the main thing that can enable certains photos is AF, depending on your situation and what you shoot. But overall, what you'r saying is true but you could say the same thing for almost any DSLR, going back very far in time. As long as I can mount FF EF lenses, have a good central spot AF, and decent enough sensibility and resolution, nothing is "essential". My 5dM3 is still 100% "good enough" and one could say that even my old 40D is almost there. But I'm very happy with the R5 nonetheless, and it makes shooting way more enjoyable ( and easy )
@@DamienAristodemo this is exactly why the most widely used camera for professions in 2020 is still the canon 5d mkIII.
@@GPadugan Also, I guess, no articulated screen to break and an absurd battery life ( compared to mirrorless ) are a nice bonus !
Yeah the 5D Mark IV is a great camera! If you are getting great images with it, keep going! Then when the price comes down in a couple years, see if it would be worth it for you!
Great video, I’ve just pulled the trigger on R5 for weddings. Can I ask how you’re getting on with battery life? Roughly how many images are you getting through on a battery. Thanks :)
So excited for you! You are going to love it! The battery life has been great for me (I run it in airplane mode most of the time and have the EVF on the regular refresh rate and normal brightness). I think I get around 1,300 photos mechanical shutter if I remember right... I cover it at the end of my full review of the camera here: ua-cam.com/video/l8izgCPnrHc/v-deo.html
That R5 is so nice. I have a question, does the refresh rate of the evf slow down when using ef lenses and the high speed continuous frame rate? That’s one of the few things i hate with the R.
Great question! That annoys me too on the R! I just tried it out for you and it was improved from the R! As a wedding photographer, most of the time I just in the slower burst mode there are times where that extra burst is nice so it is good to know it doesn't lag like it did before!
Glad they improved that. I’m looking forward to get my hands on it sometime next year.
Lightroom and photoshop don’t recognize the raw files with the latest update. How can I open them?
They do now! Try updating them!
I'm wondering if that initial blackout when you shoot in burst mode is due to the fact the R5 defaults to Electronic First Curtain Shutter (the R didn't do this). I wonder if full mechanical would fix this.
Thanks for the idea, unfortunately it didn't fix it for me. I have tried all the shutter modes. Do you have an R5? Does it blackout like mine?
@@ShaneLongPhotography No, sadly I don't yet. There are EOS-R and EOS-R5 groups on Facebook with quite a few users with R5's. That would be a great place to ask!
I enjoyed this review, thanks! The real question, however, at least for me, is how R5 compares to its contemporary rivals made by Sony, Nikon and Panasonic - not to another Canon camera that went on sale back in September 2016. Surely, no one would expect the older camera to be better? What makes both models somewhat similar is the fact that they both disappoint when it comes to shooting video, and by this, again, I mean that they do not compare favorably to their contemporary rivals. So, should one upgrade from one camera that was not very good for video to another one that is still lacking?
Great comment and thoughts! There are some amazing cameras out there right now! So many awesome options! My area of expertise is Canon cameras so I don't think I could do a good job speaking to the pros/cons of the other manufactures. Here is my latest review of the R5 where I talk about some about dynamic range, low light ability, and AF. Maybe that would help! All the best! ua-cam.com/video/l8izgCPnrHc/v-deo.html
you don't/didn't need ANY of the buttons on top of the DSLRs. I never have to remove my eye from the viewfinder. go into the menus and program your custom functions/buttons. takes 3-5 mins. GREAT VIDEO btw
Totally agree! I used those buttons all the time! And yet I had a hard time getting my finger to press the correct one since they were all in a row. I have found the R5 has more programable buttons and dials so all the functions I need are even easier to access!
Your colors look amazing. Do you sell your presets?
I don't at this time! I use a VSCO Portra 400 preset but I have modified it quite a bit to my liking! Maybe someday I will make one from scratch!
Would you switch to all mirrorless now? Some combination of the R, R5, and R6?
I just made that switch. The AF was worth it for me. I currently and going with an R5 and two R's for wedding photography.
Shane Long Photography Thanks. I am definitely considering an EOS R or RP as a backup camera. Probably the R.
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Yes. Always.
Great review, can't wait to have mine.
Jesus... how can the canon 5d4 be big for holding.... you must have very small hands... or me big ones. :D hahahahah i think then i will miss the grip of the 5d4
Yeah that will be a subjective one based on size! For many people I think the 5D Mark IV is a great size! I have been shooting with the R the last two years (and the 5D Mark IV) and got used to the size of the R. Hope yours arrives soon!
In your opinion, would the 5D4 be better to learn and grow on instead of having a camera like the R5 that comes though for you almost every time with less effort?
Hello Russ! Sorry for the slow time to respond. I had to take a break from UA-cam as I was super busy with photoshoots and family life. You probably have already made your decision. I personally would just jump into mirrorless and get either an R or and R6. The tech is so much better and the EF system wont have much re-sale value. Hope that helps!
What are your thoughts on the EVF?
Great question! Love it! I now much prefer shooting though an EVF than an optical viewfinder. In actual use I don't notice a huge difference between EVF of the R and the R5, but the R5's viewfinder is better.
Good Camera
Agreed!
Always assuming you can get it. Ordered one in July and told by Wex delivery could not be guaranteed by March! I'll have to struggle along with the 5D IV!
March?!?! Oh buddy. That is such a long time! It will be worth it when it finally comes ;)
I have the 5D Mk IV and up to this moment I was happy but now I feel inadequate. The cost of the R5 however means I wont be changing anytime soon. The cost is also increased in needing new batteries and CF Express cards. Then there is the advantages of new RF glass over the older EF .... even though the adapter allows EF mount glass. If I get rich by magic I would change to the R5 for the animal eye tracking and the IBIS. Not that bothered about 8k video.
what about r6 then? It's got everything except for the resolution. But to be honest 20mpx is plenty even for canvas prints ;) and cheaper dual sd cards.
The 5D Mark IV is still a great camera and you will be able to make amazing photos with it! Keep saving up and the price of the R5 will eventually come down!
Great suggestions on the R6!
It's interesting how the back of the screen showed a brighter image than what you showed on your computer screen during the high iso tests.
Hmm.
In the shot where I did ISO 8000 I didn't have the shutter speed set the same even though the ISO was the same. 1/500 vs. 1/400. I pushed the exposure of the R5 image slightly to match the 5D image in that one and was shocked so that the grain didn't change so I didn't want waste time in the video explaining what happened. So if anything the R5 image should have been cleaner than the 5D image. In my upcoming review of the R5 I demo the high ISO of the R5 and I am waaaay more impressed with its high ISO than I ever was with the 5D. Hope that helps explain it.
@@ShaneLongPhotography thanks for getting back to me I appreciate it.
Hi for food photography which camera is best
Not sure on that one as it isn't my area of expertise. But if you don't need to card slots, the R is a great deal!
Please can you tell me if that is the 85mm f1.4 IS you are using on the R5?
It is! The bokeh is beautiful :)
@@ShaneLongPhotography Thanks, yeah I have one, it's a lovely lens, I chose it as it was, I think, the only 85mm with IS, I was interested in how it performed on the R5, most EF glass seems to adapt seamlessly, it's probably going to save me dropping another £2k on the RF 85mm, at least for now!
Did you thought about getting the R6 instead of the R5 because of the smaller filesize?
I did! I actually debated it for a long time! Here is the video I made on that process if it would be helpful for you! ua-cam.com/video/qtnhH7iIjkM/v-deo.html
Do you shoot in mechanical or first curtain?
Sorry for the slow response! I have been crazy busy over here with wedding season and haven't had time to check my UA-cam comments. I shoot in mechanical with the slower continuous mode. I find it more responsive than the first curtain mode. Hope that helps!