Beginning of game: "Ruin has come to our family" Oh so we're related and he wants me to restore our family name End of game: "The great family of man...ruin has come to our family" Oh
@@naggie6358 by the day that happens tech will have advanced so just mail a photo of one of the eldritch creatures. Or just keep the eldritch secrets hidden until he arrives. Tell him about the disrepair of the estate, talk about the brigands, DONT talk about the Heart of Darkness(but keep records about him in the... whats the name of the town again?
I'd be a bit more concerned, but considering that this titanic monster from beyond the stars was beaten by a naked old man with a whip, an old man with leprosy, an old man with a mace, and an old man with a dog, I'm not really that worried about it. Just keep doing this dance forever, I guess.
Love how the Ancestor specifically asks you to come fix his shit and then after you do he’s like “btw all of that was pointless lol”. Even in death he’s such a douchebag XD
@@Crazieyboy15 It's like those emails from Nigerian princes that claim they've left us a fortune. The Ancestors are calling more schmucks to fight the good fight with scam inheritance.
@@martinhorvath4117 "The great family of man" is a quote from this video. It can mean both I think. Also the ancestor wasnt greedy, he was already so rich that he just kept throwing lavish parties in his youth, he was bored and evil.
He can't awaken the beast without enough blood to soak the soil. So he needs to restock the ruined structures around him with new monsters, bosses, and money. Then he has to bring someone who can convince people capable of sedating the beast again to come and fight, who are most likely (they could be driven insane) supported by your ancestor's ghosts who succeeded in sedating the monster in the past. The longer he does this, the less and less likely he will win.
It's funny, you can always hire new mercenaries through the stage coach, so you can't really lose, but at the same time, you can't really win either...
Well I dunno, clearly the Narrator/Ancestor is a bit of a douche and could just be lying. But I do kinda like the notion of just endlessly keeping the darkness just barely at bay.
The entire tone of the game is bleak and hopeless, it's clear this is the truth and those who think he is lying are just denying it out of fear or bitterness.
FAH Holliday it’s more then that, all of us will die in the end. Whatever order or meaning we have now will wither into ashes at the end. The darkest dungeon is the world and all of us will wipe it’s just a matter of when and what we do until that moment
Bleflar Brah that ancestor is you, and his ancestor before him is you. The same can be said to those before him. Its a cycle of sacrifice, to keep the darkness at bay while his bloodline bleed out.
What leaves me wondering is if there is really no power that can counter the heart and is of a more divine nature because, where does the Vestal get her powers from if not the Light? In the case the light is also a manifestaion of the heart, why none of it's acolytes seem to use it? all other healing methods aside from that either rely on medicine or is magic that involves a cost or a risk. I think one of the fish minions had support abilities but, you get my point... It's always possible that the Light is actually the virus of the planet, the accidental cancer that should not have happened and goes against what always was the true extent and purpose of the heart. Oh well, just another fatalist thought to add to the bowl.
People said your protagonist killed himself in the ending because he's driven mad by the horrible truth of the world. But no, he killed himself because he's sick of fixing his grandpa's bullshits.
"You still foolishly consider yourself an entity separate from the whole. I know better-" "Shut it old man and fuck off! I dont care what you know, but I know better how to flay your sorry ass!"
Cringy afflicted heir (player): kills himself because of the nihilistic reality that ancestor showed Chad Virtuous Heir (chad players): keeps going to beat the shit out of the heart of darkness when it comes back or to train their successors to do its job because all we need is just a leper and its massive crits
This might be me trying to get something happy out of a unhappy ending. But even with the fact that the Heart is still destined to come back, the fact that the heroes beat it in the first place is proof that people can overcome any force, no matter how dark. That even in a world full of madness, hope can still sometimes prevail, albeit for a fleeting period.
It is not really an unhappy ending. Life always try to delay death, even if it knows always end up coming. The ancestor is mad because we frustrated his plans, so he torments us with the "terrible" truth, that the egg one day will hatch. Ok. The sun will also explode some day. But today is not that day.
Darkest City? i could imagine everything with a very graffit slum-y gritty artstyle with more emphasis on corruption of the government or something. As for Darkest Space, i could see as having a classic sci-fi look to it with a sci-fi horror theme to it and an emphasis on how we're merely insignificant obstacles for more advance civilizations that have no issues wiping us out for their own prosperity and survival.
Unfortunately for the giant Cthulu planet when it hatched, humankind had colonized the galaxy a thousand years prior and had developed singularity technology. Thus, we just made an artificial sun and fired it at the thing. Game over, sucks to be eldritch.
Just beat the game, and I love how goddamn HOPELESS this ending is. There's nothing that can be done. There's no victory, only delaying the inevitable. Your characters, your stats, the hamlet, literally everhthing is meaningless and insignificant in the grand scheme of things, because it will all happen again. We are worthless. Everything is worthless. Ruin is not something that can be stopped; it can only be delayed. On the plus side sometimes you find secret rooms with a lot of gold and that's a nice plus, so everything balances out, I guess.
TheBrianJ ruin will arrived soon... but is it what we want? To let some entity comtrol our fate? Destiny is self control not by other... if eldrich die they recreate physical form in astral plane... why not destroy their very souls to stop them from control our destiny?
+Just Noob Eldritch horrors dont exist in our time, only their physical form is destroyed from what is shown here/Lovecraftian books. The true beings of Lovecraft arent Immortal, as universe itself is made around em and they were before and will be after. They are to be beings of something more yet less- its impossible to say, so no. Even if they could be made into other games, to their lore you would have to become one, or to go to where they are- in the gap of reality and material fabric to kill em. So no, its only shell of reinsertion here, not even their true forms (Cthulhu in the book included)
But how mutch delayed? Maybe deleyed enought for humanity to prosper and live long centuries? Maybe enought for humanity to find cure to this sickening madness.
Hey, this comment is like a year old! But doesn't this just mean humans should settle other planets? I feel like space travel often goes unconsidered in lovecraftian works. I like the flavor of the only escape being to brave the void of space, away from the womb of the planet we came from, in some sort of cosmic coming-of-age.
Just realised that you aren’t the first person in the family to be deceived by the ancestors letter to defeating the darkest dungeon. At first I thought the ending was showing all the progress you made in the hamlet and dungeon in reverse but It’s possibly the opposite.
Me seeing, that world will end eventually: "Well crap" Me realising I have to play it all over again to prevent This Thing from exploding: *SCREAMS IN TERROR*
If the real "monster" is the size of the planet, it's almost comical how small the heart (final boss) is. It's only a few meters tall by the looks of it. It's probably just one of BILLIONS of hearts, all keeping the egg alive, which is why you can keep going back to kill them, over and over.
Well, it's size is cosmic, which is bigger than the flesh which is basically a giant room full of pig body parts, so I imagine it isn't that small, but at the same time, we fights its immune system, and those are freaking gigantic, so yeah, probably the heart is just one of the many that was awake, and when a number of them beat the thing wakes up, which is pretty hopeless considering one mistake, one death, one second of hesitation means the end of mankind, so yeah
Well old man you can think like that with you want but the darkness have yet to win and I think that they will have to wait for a really long time before the line collapse
The ancestor “you can’t beat the heart of darkness!” *Beats it* “Fuck you, it doesn’t matter anyway! So really we won in the end” Also, I like to imagine the player doesn’t kill themself and just goes “shut the fuck up grandpa”
I think the ending is left up to the individual! Some people will always be doom and gloom and always think everything is helpless and succumb to the darkness. But I for one am the opposite. I completed the full game and was obsessed with the story! I say the ending is you were successful in responding to your grandpas letter, and stopped whatever thing he succumbed to unleash. Lots of people died for the cause but thats a small price to pay for protecting the world. And the thing just has sounded like your grandpa towards the end to try to get you to succumb to it. To give up. To let it destroy everything. After all thats why it takes your grandpas form towards the end. You have taken your leave from the place, abandoning it, letting it rot to move on. While visiting it now and then to make sure the horror is gone. Maybe await its return some generations later. But for now.... Peace. You get in your stagecoach, honoring the fallen, knowing what you did here may never be remembered with all who fell. But your alive and will spread the word and message. And with that, Ditching the letter your grandpa sent on the road side. Thinking of the first words he wrote to you. "ruin has come to our family" and ride away.
I just beat the game, and one thing I liked is that the ones that died in the final fight, when you visit the graveyard have their tombstones beautifully ornamentated, with flowers and made of solid stone. Those tombstones could be built in the first place because they sacrificed themselves to give others the chance to build them. So life in the planet can continue existing.
The cycle repeats, no one but you knows of its repetition, people look at you crazily if you talk about it, its little wonder your uncle took his life, he too was cursed with this forbidden knowledge... will this time be the time YOU pick up the gun unable to forge forth yet again to face unspeakable horrors and stop the end of the world for it to repeat itself in a never ending loop. How strong is your fortitude, how determined your resolve? Is your hand shaking over the the pistol, how easy it would be to put an end to it all.
It’s meaningless to prevent the inevitable. But with mods it can be never ending. With new mod characters coming every six months, having to grind more in a new dungeon mod and PVP. Madness is never ending. Ruin. Has come to my sleepless nights.
So I beat him after getting just about every good trinket I could, and killing all the bosses. I’m proud to say I absolutely annihilated him and the last thing only had 1 move that wasn’t come unto your maker. So, I think he’s just salty his god got absolutely annihilated by a sellsword, an occultist, a runaway, and a guy with a dog
Straight outta Lovecraft. Try, try, try. In the end, it is all futile and meaningless. Your life is nothing, your efforts in vain. There is no valiance. No purpose. No hope. Only inevitability.
What a terrible curse...for it. I mean to spend an eternity as my butt bitch? I thought Lovecraftian was another term for "terrifyingly powerful" but I guess not.
Took me really long to finish the game but when I first got to the ending it hit me really hard and made me tear a little. Showing how useless the existence of us is. And showing how pathetic I am
I have to mention it because I couldn't find any theory about it in the comments, but did no one else think that the ruin that has come at the end is not the letter nor the monster, but the adventurers ? Driven mad from watching the thing slumber thoughout vain attempts at stopping it, the heir commits suicide, and destroys as much knowledge as possible in the hope of letting the secret go undisturbed, even abandoning the hamlet in that futile hope... But then another petty noble comes in pursuit of glory and gold, another batch of adventurers spill their blood in the corrupted lands, waking more of the unending evil that taints the region, merely offering the thing another chance to arise... Where do all the monsters come from ? How are there even bandits, madmen and villagers alive in this region ? The monsters are not trying to overtake the world or spread destruction and chaos : The demons possessing the swinefolk are mindless, the cove's inhabitants seemingly pursue other goals and even trade with terrestrians, the undead are untiring workers and the cultists are deluded by their god ! If human morals had any truth to them, the monsters would be victims. It is not good versus evil, and the heir eventually comes to that realization. Other monsters and the corrupted nature itself are under direct control of the thing : they do not leave their homes. Their numbers never thin. The most powerful ones are also the deepest, and only face the bravest of adventurers. The thing is not trying to fight for its survival of power. It is lazily luring humanity to itself, in a disdainful mockery of free will. When the heir comes to this realization, when he understands that coming here was a fundamental mistake, he tries to go back, and truly the ending is as good as it possibly could : everything is reversed to its most desirable state for mankind, when few people were aware, and fewer were interested. You were just playing in the wrong direction, and the game offered you a chance not to commit that mistake again.
Victory...a hollow and ridiculous notion. We are born of this thing, made from it. And we will be returned to it, in time. The great family of man -- a profusion of errant flesh. Multiplying. Swarming. Living. Dying. Until the stars align in their inexorable formation, and what sleeps is roused once more, to hatch from this fragile shell of earth and rock, and bring our inescapable end... So seek solace in the manner befitting your lineage, and take up your nugatory vigil. Haunted forever by that sickening prose, echoing through the infinite blackness of space and time: Ruin has come to our family...
I'm pretty sure the last line is "Ruin has come to my family" . At least that's how I understood, and made my mind blown, it doesn't get more lovecraftian than that.
@@ricardomaciel2955 No, it is "our family" because in the story you are the heir of the ancestor/narrator and he begs you to basically fix his horrible mistakes
@@rudsby but in the end the cycle repeats and we become the "new" ancestor, at least thats what i thought, in similar fashion to the lovecraft's The Rats in the Walls, Where the protagonist becomes the man he saw in his dreams...
@@ricardomaciel2955 I actually see the ending as time being rewound forever until one time you dont defeat the final boss or you know, you just delay it forever.
Well, that's because the ancestor here is super salty that we kicked his and his monsters ass back into the closet where it belongs. When we lose: "it's fate." When the ancestor loses: "victory is a meaningless notion."
I don't think the cycle has to repeat itself. There seems to be no reason why you can't just not send for someone else to repeat the cycle. You could just, I don't know, cover the entrance to the dungeon?
Alessia Aikley That is just a human conception of how things work. It doesn't go like that for most parts in reality. In many cases, when there's something bad happening, it tends to escalate very rapidly without an equally strong brake in sight. Also, you can never quite consider Lovecraftian horrors to be evil. They are less Satan and more natural disasters. Just as how you can't apply an equal opposite force to keep a storm from making landfall, cause floods and landslides and exacerbate the damage more and more in an escalating series of events, you can't just conjure a big good to stop a Cosmic Horror from damaging things just by walking around or stretching some limbs. You can start throwing in resources to fix things and gradually restore order and infrastructure operation, but only after the storm has passed. You can put up barriers to soften the blow of the storm. However, a Cosmic Horror is akin to a storm of an unimaginable scale and never goes away.
Alessia Aikley And a hurricane is still a storm. Point being that on a physics standpoint, a force is always counteract by an opposite force e.g. friction and inertia. However, this does not necessarily apply to things of human conception. How many times had we seen villains doing whatever without comeuppance? So a storm, or a superstorm, you can't stop it by any kind of human acts, it has to go away by itself as it eventually is drained of the energy needed to sustain itself (sped up by landmass). At best you can slow it down and control the damage it's going to bring. Cosmic horrors operate in a similar manner, except in this case, no, mere mountains won't really slow it down due to how overwhelming it is. If mountains can't stop them from breaking things just by stretching a tentacle or whatever, what can humans do? LIke it or not, reality is the universe was and has always been unfeeling and apathetic. Justice and morals is something we come up with to keep our society in working order (as society is what allows humans to survive for as long as it did). Lovecraftian stories bring that idea up to its ultimate conclusion, by making us even smaller than ever by pitting us against things that are incomprehensibly mightier and greater, be it the Yithians and their science that is indistinguishable from magic to Azathoth which is more akin to the very fabric of the universe made living than an actual creature.
Alessia Aikley And that sun could eventually be swept away by an even larger Cosmic Horror, so yes, it does go both ways. So far we only found one planet that fosters any life. We are standing on it. Whether the universe nurtures life is still up for debate.
Man does not have to accept this fate. The ancestors was consumed by his fear, hopeless in the face of this eldritch horror. Maybe there is a way to stop. One must just dig even deeper
This can't be true at least not forever, they are making a part 2, so what do you think will happen? I think what will happen is that the heir didn't kill themself and has been trying to find a way to end the cycle, found a potential option and hires the adventurers again to help, that, or the heir does kill themself, the adventurers find out about everything, can't live with this fact as it makes all of their personal goal pointless, and seek to stop the cycle. After all in the teaser it shows a snowy mountain, clearly not where the darkest dungeon is, but somewhere new. perhaps an end to this vicious cycle?
I come from the future to explain to those who didnt understand. The ending basically says the game will repeat itself over and over. Even of the threat is quelled, it will call another to awaken in
Thank you for the explain, futurian number 231. Nice to meet you and have a nice time. Thereisnospoon here are great, but iseedeadpeople, somehow it will be riseandshine in no time. Ys2b7 to skip a level. I've got an endless gamma star and infinite mega nukes sadly they closed the server.
Some guys with swords:kills flesh thingy so it can heal America seeing it coming back to life: *Its in a cave we got a rocket,and barrel of explosives let’s fuck it up*
i actually love this game kinda i got to darkest dungeon beat all champion bosses and everything but when i got with my party to the darkest dungeon and all my lvl 6 party members with boss trinkets got killed at that point my love for the game kinda died its still there but i rather not think about it anymore game would be fine if levels were taken out
I took +500 hours to beat it too, but it was mostly because I started a campaign, stopped playing it and deleted it after some time to start a fresh one. Also, part of those hours is just being afk with the game open. But I finished the game for the first time in 137 in-game weeks.
Simple: we didn't kill it, not really. We simply put it back to sleep before it could truly awaken. We can only hold it back, but one day it may awaken anyway.
"... and take up your nugatory vigil. Haunted forever by that sickening prose echoing through the infinite blackness of space and time!" Yeeeeeesh... Ancestor really really needed to unplug/a plug
considering the ancestor is basically the hearts mouthpiece, the final boss, immediately after losing, tells you to kill yourself. it might be a god, but i think its pretty low tier...
So... you beat the heart of everything or creation itself... but you can't REALLY kill it or escape it so eventually the stars align and it wakes up anyway and blows up the planet despite your best efforts and then the great THING awakens and recreates all of existence. Okay that makes enough sense. But then the game implies that it is YOU the relative to the original ancestor that perpetuates the cycle... but you died when the world was remade... so that can't be you. If they're implying that the world is made in the exact same way, then it's still the Ancestor who is causing all the problems in the Hamlet just another incarnation of him. And you would still be a relative of the Ancestor undoing his mistakes. And if you become like your ancestor after you "slay" the Thing that doesn't make much sense. Because the Ancestor told you all his mistakes and you spent so much time correcting his mistakes and learning from his failures. How could you forget what happened and do the EXACT same thing? Like Do you also hire the brigand 12 pounder? Do you sacrifice another waif to the sea? Hire another crew of pirates to scour the land for relics? I just really don't understand the implication that you repeat your Ancestors mistakes, if someone understands this can you please explain it to me? I'm confused.
scoople6 When you beat it, you never actually kill it. It goes back into slumber, waiting for the stars to align to attempt an escape once more. This is the futile cycle the ancestor talks about: adventurers, going to the hamlet again and again, only delaying the inevitable, until one slip up happens and the earth blows up. In the end you hear the narrator say the opening line of the game: « Ruin has come to our family. » and the game starts again. This implies this is the next batch of adventurers coming to delve in the Darkest Dungeon, only to start the cycle once more.
I think there is no "new" ancestor... The Ancestor started the cycle and now, to prevent Man's ruin at the heart of IT, he lures evermore adventurers to the Hamlet to perpetuate the cycle, attempting in futility to prevent IT from truly awakening.
@@orangejoey1459 You know, if you think about it, the "family" he speaks of is not just his bloodline, it is all of mankind. Listen to what he says, the "Great Family of Mankind"
@@orangejoey1459 Okay that can make sense to me. Like how eventually the Thing will begin to stir once more and the new owner of the estate (the role the player takes) or your offspring or someone else hundreds or thousands of years later will continue to attempt to silence it until someone messes up and the world is undone then redone. Yeah that checks out. Just from the cinematic imagery they make it seem like YOU become the ancestor, saying that you take up the vigil, showing the opening sequence as if YOU were now the ancestor writing the letter and shooting yourself thus setting up the cycle again. That's the part that confused me, the implication that you become the ancestor. Thanks for the reply, helped clear up my weird nagging issues with the ending.
@@thyrussendria8198 Ah, so a less literal approach? Like it doesn't matter how long ago the ancestor died, he is a ghost that sends out letters to gather up "family" members to come fix his mistake and collect their fortune. The player could succeed then die and the ancestor would send out another letter to another far off family member decades later when the Thing begins to stir and he needs another army of adventurers to put It back to sleep again. I like that idea, that makes enough sense to me.
Someday the sun will collapse ending all life in our planet or the earth will be revealed to be the egg shell if a celestial horror. Either way, we all day in the future
@@TheSpitefulSword nah the characters seem to be the same. Maybe while we're fighting in the hamlet the rest of society collapsed and went full mordheim since we see some of the hero's fighting in a ruined city.
I don't know about you guys but I'd prefer if the Hamlet went back to normal and the ghost merely warned you that it is an endless cycle of the folly of man and eventually another will have to stand up and repeat what you did in a meaningless struggle that will eventually be lost. I mean that's basically what they do already but they didn't have to show it being repeated instantly
I think it's a timelapse. That it doesn't literally go back instantly, but they're showing fastforwarded what it'll look like in a couple decades, when the next cycle starts (presumably it gets ruined faster than a normal hamlet would due to monsters and such)
Perhaps the Ghost is the leader of the last fight against the Darkest Dungeon and the Heart, the player who managed to give us, the great family of man, a bit more time to live. The ghost leads you to the Hamlet so the cycle can continue for without it, we are all lost and doomed. They seek to guide the next one to take their place in the Ancestor's plan before fading away, hoping that Man can once again live to see a new dawn.
There's likely multiple hearts that rouse "the thing" when they start beating and bring about the apocalypse. Killing that single heart was about as useful as throwing a tiny pebble into the infinite ocean. You didn't make a wave against the darkness, just a pathetic ripple
"Victory. A hollow and ridiculous notion. We are born of this thing, made from it." Me: Ever heard of cancer m8? Besides, if this eldritch god wants to keep getting their shit kicked in by an old man with leprosy, I'm happy to oblige - no kinkshaming here. Edit: borked up a word in the Ancestor's speech
i dont think people understand how poetic what the ending is seek solace in a matter befitting your lineage. He is saying that now you know you are not human after witnissing the heart of darkness but of something greater cuthulu give cuthulu your life literally and be reborn to bring everyone to the only truth
I feel the ancestor might be wrong about the end of the world 🌍 as the Thing needs the blood and misery and triumphs of its children to *grow* . Or *he is right* , and just lied 🤥 to get more food 🥘 *for* God 💃🤖.
This was pretty stupid, it was a cop out to make it eternal, dragon's dogma did it right (sorta), but killing the heart of darkness and having it not matter really felt like a diss. I won't even play a second campaign because wow
It based on Lovecraftian god, just like Cthulhu and Azathoth, you can injured Cthulhu and made him sleep in the ocean all you want but it won't matter he will wake up someday, outer god can try to not waking up Azathoth all they want in the end he will wake and everything will disappear. That's the true horror of the inevitable
And this breaks rule #7 in my personal "Things Enjoyable Games Do" list: "Your efforts must amount to something." Say what you will about the journey and destination, I feel the stress this games puts on you, the player, should have some payoff.
IMO the "payoff" is knowing you delayed the absolute destruction of planet Earth, along with everything we know and hold dear. Even if it's just for a brief period of time, that's time you gave to the denizens of Earth and/or their posterity.
But the fact the struggle means nothing is the very *point* of the game. You start off fresh, knowing nothing of the land bestowed upon you. And as you plunge further into the madness, the terrors the Ancestor had to endure slowly begin to take their toll on you; ordinary townsfolk are turning into horrific beings, but you keep pushing onward towards the inevitable. And in the end, you realize that the horrors you've endured are too much for you to bear, thus sealing your fate as that of the Ancestor. I don't want to come across as arrogant, but I think you've missed the point entirely if you don't feel satisfied with the game's ending. You weren't immersed, you just wanted to see what the game -- rather than its narrative -- had to offer. You didn't think of your characters as *people*, you just saw them as tables full of numbers and variables. And I'm not saying that's wrong, that's literally the point of the game, but it's the narrative itself that makes Darkest Dungeon such a horrific and depressing game.
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Beginning of game: "Ruin has come to our family" Oh so we're related and he wants me to restore our family name
End of game: "The great family of man...ruin has come to our family"
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How to rope a stranger into your problems 101.
the inevitable is not inevitable if you delay it forever
*taps finger to head*
Just like homework. Never due if you never hand it in.
Mistakes are inevitable. It only takes one.
a mistake will eventually be made, one day someone will fail or refuse to believe. and even then, the stars will one day be right and awaken the thing
@@naggie6358 by the day that happens tech will have advanced so just mail a photo of one of the eldritch creatures.
Or just keep the eldritch secrets hidden until he arrives.
Tell him about the disrepair of the estate, talk about the brigands, DONT talk about the Heart of Darkness(but keep records about him in the... whats the name of the town again?
I'd be a bit more concerned, but considering that this titanic monster from beyond the stars was beaten by a naked old man with a whip, an old man with leprosy, an old man with a mace, and an old man with a dog, I'm not really that worried about it.
Just keep doing this dance forever, I guess.
Maybe the real unspeakable horrors were the old men we met along the way.
@@송어진-q8v underrated comment xd
to be honest a lot of people had to get fucked in the process to this guys be able to defeat the Titanic moster from beyond
@@송어진-q8v he was also killed by a woman with a knife and a censer
Maybe this is all a ploy to feast on the blood 🩸 of humans?
Love how the Ancestor specifically asks you to come fix his shit and then after you do he’s like “btw all of that was pointless lol”. Even in death he’s such a douchebag XD
He pulled of the ultimate scam
@@kamilslup7743"sorry but your 678h of game is usless"
The ending it literally
good job you "won" now you must burden the curse until the next family member comes to "reclaim their birthright"
Bruh how big is this fucking family!? 😂🤣😭
@@vincent_morrow_ I think when they say "family", its more like the human race in general.
@@Crazieyboy15 It's like those emails from Nigerian princes that claim they've left us a fortune. The Ancestors are calling more schmucks to fight the good fight with scam inheritance.
@@Crazieyboy15 No? The story is clearly about a noble who was being too greedy and evil?
@@martinhorvath4117 "The great family of man" is a quote from this video. It can mean both I think. Also the ancestor wasnt greedy, he was already so rich that he just kept throwing lavish parties in his youth, he was bored and evil.
Anyone else think that that thing is just bullshitting us because it's super salty we won?
I think it's immortality is a curse. To forever get it's ass kicked by random adventurers sounds like hell to me. Truly a loss in it's own right.
He can't awaken the beast without enough blood to soak the soil. So he needs to restock the ruined structures around him with new monsters, bosses, and money. Then he has to bring someone who can convince people capable of sedating the beast again to come and fight, who are most likely (they could be driven insane) supported by your ancestor's ghosts who succeeded in sedating the monster in the past. The longer he does this, the less and less likely he will win.
@@dragoneye6229 Imagine the ancestor and that eldritch thingy getting spanked in the ass by a waifs version of reynauld
Yes, especially after spending the entire fight demeaning the adventurers and bragging about his power and knowledge.
Yeah, seems like something this thing would do.
How very Lovecraftian.
It's funny, you can always hire new mercenaries through the stage coach, so you can't really lose, but at the same time, you can't really win either...
try stalgyam difficulty hahahaha
Stygian? lol
Laughs in Jesters snorting insane amounts of space dust, as plague doctors infuse his blood with cocaine laced LSD and an old man just yells at him
@@quinnlee-miller9792 gotta love that 199 DMG Finale
Well, that's even bleaker than I was expecting, not so much canceling the apocalypse as hitting the snooze button.
Well I dunno, clearly the Narrator/Ancestor is a bit of a douche and could just be lying. But I do kinda like the notion of just endlessly keeping the darkness just barely at bay.
The entire tone of the game is bleak and hopeless, it's clear this is the truth and those who think he is lying are just denying it out of fear or bitterness.
FAH Holliday it’s more then that, all of us will die in the end. Whatever order or meaning we have now will wither into ashes at the end. The darkest dungeon is the world and all of us will wipe it’s just a matter of when and what we do until that moment
Ancestor is dead so he knows nothing of what happened at the end of the game.
Bleflar
Brah that ancestor is you, and his ancestor before him is you. The same can be said to those before him. Its a cycle of sacrifice, to keep the darkness at bay while his bloodline bleed out.
History repeats, over and over...
But every time around, we can defeat it.
And in the process delay the inevitable.
Until the stars align and the planet just explodes instantly. There is no hope, only the power to delay.
What leaves me wondering is if there is really no power that can counter the heart and is of a more divine nature because, where does the Vestal get her powers from if not the Light? In the case the light is also a manifestaion of the heart, why none of it's acolytes seem to use it? all other healing methods aside from that either rely on medicine or is magic that involves a cost or a risk. I think one of the fish minions had support abilities but, you get my point...
It's always possible that the Light is actually the virus of the planet, the accidental cancer that should not have happened and goes against what always was the true extent and purpose of the heart. Oh well, just another fatalist thought to add to the bowl.
+Ron Nickels +FAH Holliday So? In the end, this Heart will stop beating. The inevitable is death, for every single thing.
Someone once told me time is a flat circle
This sounds like quitter talk.
Ok, that got a laugh outta me.
People said your protagonist killed himself in the ending because he's driven mad by the horrible truth of the world.
But no, he killed himself because he's sick of fixing his grandpa's bullshits.
Goes to afterlife just to beat the shit out of grandpa
"You still foolishly consider yourself an entity separate from the whole. I know better-"
"Shut it old man and fuck off! I dont care what you know, but I know better how to flay your sorry ass!"
Cringy afflicted heir (player): kills himself because of the nihilistic reality that ancestor showed
Chad Virtuous Heir (chad players): keeps going to beat the shit out of the heart of darkness when it comes back or to train their successors to do its job because all we need is just a leper and its massive crits
This might be me trying to get something happy out of a unhappy ending. But even with the fact that the Heart is still destined to come back, the fact that the heroes beat it in the first place is proof that people can overcome any force, no matter how dark. That even in a world full of madness, hope can still sometimes prevail, albeit for a fleeting period.
Yeah the Ancestor was just being a dick lol
That's what makes the second game so fantastic. It breaks the time loop, and does have a happy ending imo
It is not really an unhappy ending. Life always try to delay death, even if it knows always end up coming. The ancestor is mad because we frustrated his plans, so he torments us with the "terrible" truth, that the egg one day will hatch. Ok. The sun will also explode some day. But today is not that day.
Not today. This day we fight. This day we win.
You said it, as long as there's hope, the will to fight will not falter. Many fall in the face of chaos, but not this one. Not today.
"Many fall in the face of chaos... but not this one, not today"
thank god this was here... just beat the boss then accidentally pressed something while trying to turn the volume up and skipped out
Wee bit late but you can rewatch the cutscene if you click on the ancestor’s memoirs (statue in town) and scroll down
same bruv
If the cycle repeats, are the sequels going to be Darkest City and Darkest Space ?
Darkest City? i could imagine everything with a very graffit slum-y gritty artstyle with more emphasis on corruption of the government or something. As for Darkest Space, i could see as having a classic sci-fi look to it with a sci-fi horror theme to it and an emphasis on how we're merely insignificant obstacles for more advance civilizations that have no issues wiping us out for their own prosperity and survival.
Darkest City
Oh god yes
Damn that sounds like a good sequel
Darkest mars
I want a Darkest City right fucking now
Jester: Sounds like some Salty Ducky mad he got one shoted!
Someone's being a sussy baka desu uwu
So...We get an invitation to Smash Bros??
Yes
Unfortunately for the giant Cthulu planet when it hatched, humankind had colonized the galaxy a thousand years prior and had developed singularity technology. Thus, we just made an artificial sun and fired it at the thing. Game over, sucks to be eldritch.
good ending
You wish. All of humanity died.
and then you realize all of that is just an illusion created from that thing.
For the Emperor!
@@DoctressCalibrator Given DD 2 is a thing, I think it's too early to claim that: we'll see once the game cames out though
Just beat the game, and I love how goddamn HOPELESS this ending is.
There's nothing that can be done. There's no victory, only delaying the inevitable. Your characters, your stats, the hamlet, literally everhthing is meaningless and insignificant in the grand scheme of things, because it will all happen again. We are worthless. Everything is worthless. Ruin is not something that can be stopped; it can only be delayed.
On the plus side sometimes you find secret rooms with a lot of gold and that's a nice plus, so everything balances out, I guess.
TheBrianJ ruin will arrived soon... but is it what we want? To let some entity comtrol our fate? Destiny is self control not by other... if eldrich die they recreate physical form in astral plane... why not destroy their very souls to stop them from control our destiny?
+Just Noob Eldritch horrors dont exist in our time, only their physical form is destroyed from what is shown here/Lovecraftian books.
The true beings of Lovecraft arent Immortal, as universe itself is made around em and they were before and will be after.
They are to be beings of something more yet less- its impossible to say, so no.
Even if they could be made into other games, to their lore you would have to become one, or to go to where they are- in the gap of reality and material fabric to kill em.
So no, its only shell of reinsertion here, not even their true forms (Cthulhu in the book included)
But how mutch delayed? Maybe deleyed enought for humanity to prosper and live long centuries? Maybe enought for humanity to find cure to this sickening madness.
Hey, this comment is like a year old! But doesn't this just mean humans should settle other planets? I feel like space travel often goes unconsidered in lovecraftian works. I like the flavor of the only escape being to brave the void of space, away from the womb of the planet we came from, in some sort of cosmic coming-of-age.
Don't listen to him. He got too much stress and became "hopeless".
Just realised that you aren’t the first person in the family to be deceived by the ancestors letter to defeating the darkest dungeon.
At first I thought the ending was showing all the progress you made in the hamlet and dungeon in reverse but It’s possibly the opposite.
Think about all the NUMEROUS deeds,busts,crests,and portraits,this whole thing could have been going WAY back!
ansonlyeify yeah lmao
Me seeing, that world will end eventually: "Well crap"
Me realising I have to play it all over again to prevent This Thing from exploding:
*SCREAMS IN TERROR*
HOPELESS PARANOID ABUSIVE
@@nickbhagatram2482 SELFISH MASOCHISTIC
If the real "monster" is the size of the planet, it's almost comical how small the heart (final boss) is. It's only a few meters tall by the looks of it. It's probably just one of BILLIONS of hearts, all keeping the egg alive, which is why you can keep going back to kill them, over and over.
Well, it's size is cosmic, which is bigger than the flesh which is basically a giant room full of pig body parts, so I imagine it isn't that small, but at the same time, we fights its immune system, and those are freaking gigantic, so yeah, probably the heart is just one of the many that was awake, and when a number of them beat the thing wakes up, which is pretty hopeless considering one mistake, one death, one second of hesitation means the end of mankind, so yeah
at 0:39, in the center of the heart you can see "the scream" from edvard munch :)
Damn, you have a keen eye.
I see something that looks very slightly like it, and if that's what you're on about I think it's a case of pareidolia more than The Scream.
I don t see it... But i see a lot of faces
Well old man you can think like that with you want but the darkness have yet to win and I think that they will have to wait for a really long time before the line collapse
I mean shit, as long as the cycle never gets broken, it'll be destroyed by an expanding sun lol
Yeah it wants to get out the planet just to not get scronched by the sun
How bold of you to assume there isn't another one of those monsters in the sun?
@@coultersheppard2052 Bold of you to assume the one in the sun wouldn't eat the smaller earth one
"why doesn't the sun, the larger of the eldritch horrors, simply eat the other horrors?"
That ghost spoke the truth... an endless cycle indeed
The ancestor “you can’t beat the heart of darkness!”
*Beats it*
“Fuck you, it doesn’t matter anyway! So really we won in the end”
Also, I like to imagine the player doesn’t kill themself and just goes “shut the fuck up grandpa”
Goes against the implications a bit but who cares that's way funnier
I think the ending is left up to the individual! Some people will always be doom and gloom and always think everything is helpless and succumb to the darkness. But I for one am the opposite. I completed the full game and was obsessed with the story!
I say the ending is you were successful in responding to your grandpas letter, and stopped whatever thing he succumbed to unleash. Lots of people died for the cause but thats a small price to pay for protecting the world. And the thing just has sounded like your grandpa towards the end to try to get you to succumb to it. To give up. To let it destroy everything. After all thats why it takes your grandpas form towards the end.
You have taken your leave from the place, abandoning it, letting it rot to move on. While visiting it now and then to make sure the horror is gone. Maybe await its return some generations later. But for now.... Peace. You get in your stagecoach, honoring the fallen, knowing what you did here may never be remembered with all who fell. But your alive and will spread the word and message. And with that, Ditching the letter your grandpa sent on the road side. Thinking of the first words he wrote to you. "ruin has come to our family" and ride away.
i have now declared your headcanon to be, canon !
I just beat the game, and one thing I liked is that the ones that died in the final fight, when you visit the graveyard have their tombstones beautifully ornamentated, with flowers and made of solid stone. Those tombstones could be built in the first place because they sacrificed themselves to give others the chance to build them. So life in the planet can continue existing.
The cycle repeats, no one but you knows of its repetition, people look at you crazily if you talk about it, its little wonder your uncle took his life, he too was cursed with this forbidden knowledge... will this time be the time YOU pick up the gun unable to forge forth yet again to face unspeakable horrors and stop the end of the world for it to repeat itself in a never ending loop. How strong is your fortitude, how determined your resolve? Is your hand shaking over the the pistol, how easy it would be to put an end to it all.
It’s meaningless to prevent the inevitable. But with mods it can be never ending. With new mod characters coming every six months, having to grind more in a new dungeon mod and PVP. Madness is never ending. Ruin. Has come to my sleepless nights.
Sheesh
This game took me forever to beat, I finally finished it yesterday after like 2-3 years. What a frustrating but insanely good game
I made the mistake of trying to steam screencap while this happened so I missed out on this.
same :(
So I beat him after getting just about every good trinket I could, and killing all the bosses. I’m proud to say I absolutely annihilated him and the last thing only had 1 move that wasn’t come unto your maker. So, I think he’s just salty his god got absolutely annihilated by a sellsword, an occultist, a runaway, and a guy with a dog
Straight outta Lovecraft. Try, try, try. In the end, it is all futile and meaningless. Your life is nothing, your efforts in vain. There is no valiance. No purpose. No hope. Only inevitability.
What a terrible curse...for it. I mean to spend an eternity as my butt bitch? I thought Lovecraftian was another term for "terrifyingly powerful" but I guess not.
Took me really long to finish the game but when I first got to the ending it hit me really hard and made me tear a little. Showing how useless the existence of us is. And showing how pathetic I am
TomeOfBattle shit man thank you so much
Calm down son, it's just a video game. :D
"Forget not that our errand is holy and just! Light will prevail!"
Thats the beauty of cosmic horror
"The tide rises. And the tide falls."
The ending of this game reads like a chain-letter email but with extra steps.
Our inescapable end boi the heart of darkness was killed by 4 people
Yet said death was but a lullaby to such an eternal horror. It will return to life and the cycle will continue or Man will be brought unto ruin.
Someone didn't get the ending...
I understand the ending but what im saying is the canonical strongest enemy got killed by 4 people im just saying
@@Ghost-jd7mf But it didn't get killed. It can't really be killed. That's the whole point.
@@T0mN7 well defeated then
I have to mention it because I couldn't find any theory about it in the comments, but did no one else think that the ruin that has come at the end is not the letter nor the monster, but the adventurers ?
Driven mad from watching the thing slumber thoughout vain attempts at stopping it, the heir commits suicide, and destroys as much knowledge as possible in the hope of letting the secret go undisturbed, even abandoning the hamlet in that futile hope...
But then another petty noble comes in pursuit of glory and gold, another batch of adventurers spill their blood in the corrupted lands, waking more of the unending evil that taints the region, merely offering the thing another chance to arise...
Where do all the monsters come from ? How are there even bandits, madmen and villagers alive in this region ? The monsters are not trying to overtake the world or spread destruction and chaos :
The demons possessing the swinefolk are mindless, the cove's inhabitants seemingly pursue other goals and even trade with terrestrians, the undead are untiring workers and the cultists are deluded by their god ! If human morals had any truth to them, the monsters would be victims. It is not good versus evil, and the heir eventually comes to that realization.
Other monsters and the corrupted nature itself are under direct control of the thing : they do not leave their homes. Their numbers never thin. The most powerful ones are also the deepest, and only face the bravest of adventurers.
The thing is not trying to fight for its survival of power. It is lazily luring humanity to itself, in a disdainful mockery of free will. When the heir comes to this realization, when he understands that coming here was a fundamental mistake, he tries to go back, and truly the ending is as good as it possibly could : everything is reversed to its most desirable state for mankind, when few people were aware, and fewer were interested.
You were just playing in the wrong direction, and the game offered you a chance not to commit that mistake again.
This is a fucking great ending. How did they fit 2 plot twists in one quest?
This the worst fucking ending they could have possibly created.
Had to watch it here because taking a screenshot skipped the cutscene :P
Karza you can rewatch it in the hamlet
Victory...a hollow and ridiculous notion.
We are born of this thing, made from it. And we will be returned to it, in time.
The great family of man -- a profusion of errant flesh. Multiplying. Swarming. Living. Dying.
Until the stars align in their inexorable formation, and what sleeps is roused once more, to hatch from this fragile shell of earth and rock, and bring our inescapable end...
So seek solace in the manner befitting your lineage, and take up your nugatory vigil.
Haunted forever by that sickening prose, echoing through the infinite blackness of space and time:
Ruin has come to our family...
I'm pretty sure the last line is "Ruin has come to my family" . At least that's how I understood, and made my mind blown, it doesn't get more lovecraftian than that.
@@ricardomaciel2955 No, it is "our family" because in the story you are the heir of the ancestor/narrator and he begs you to basically fix his horrible mistakes
@@rudsby but in the end the cycle repeats and we become the "new" ancestor, at least thats what i thought, in similar fashion to the lovecraft's The Rats in the Walls, Where the protagonist becomes the man he saw in his dreams...
@@ricardomaciel2955 I actually see the ending as time being rewound forever until one time you dont defeat the final boss or you know, you just delay it forever.
@@rudsby fair enough
Just a little snooze before doom. Welp that went down pretty well.
... then Darkest Dungeon 2 came along with a much more positive ending
Well, that's because the ancestor here is super salty that we kicked his and his monsters ass back into the closet where it belongs.
When we lose: "it's fate."
When the ancestor loses: "victory is a meaningless notion."
@@dragenfire68yeah it's an act of spite from an false god its a shame his lies dragged one final good man down with it.
Awww, he’s salty he gets denied by himself
This feels like the intro to a spooky show.
Ele gostou tanto da surra que vai voltar novamente. O cara é muito freguês kkkkkkkkkk
LOL!
I don't think the cycle has to repeat itself. There seems to be no reason why you can't just not send for someone else to repeat the cycle. You could just, I don't know, cover the entrance to the dungeon?
Because someone will dig that gateway up again out of curiosity, eventually.
+Felipe Thirteen yeah thats why i LOVE it
Alessia Aikley That is just a human conception of how things work. It doesn't go like that for most parts in reality. In many cases, when there's something bad happening, it tends to escalate very rapidly without an equally strong brake in sight.
Also, you can never quite consider Lovecraftian horrors to be evil. They are less Satan and more natural disasters. Just as how you can't apply an equal opposite force to keep a storm from making landfall, cause floods and landslides and exacerbate the damage more and more in an escalating series of events, you can't just conjure a big good to stop a Cosmic Horror from damaging things just by walking around or stretching some limbs.
You can start throwing in resources to fix things and gradually restore order and infrastructure operation, but only after the storm has passed. You can put up barriers to soften the blow of the storm. However, a Cosmic Horror is akin to a storm of an unimaginable scale and never goes away.
Alessia Aikley And a hurricane is still a storm.
Point being that on a physics standpoint, a force is always counteract by an opposite force e.g. friction and inertia. However, this does not necessarily apply to things of human conception. How many times had we seen villains doing whatever without comeuppance?
So a storm, or a superstorm, you can't stop it by any kind of human acts, it has to go away by itself as it eventually is drained of the energy needed to sustain itself (sped up by landmass). At best you can slow it down and control the damage it's going to bring. Cosmic horrors operate in a similar manner, except in this case, no, mere mountains won't really slow it down due to how overwhelming it is. If mountains can't stop them from breaking things just by stretching a tentacle or whatever, what can humans do?
LIke it or not, reality is the universe was and has always been unfeeling and apathetic. Justice and morals is something we come up with to keep our society in working order (as society is what allows humans to survive for as long as it did). Lovecraftian stories bring that idea up to its ultimate conclusion, by making us even smaller than ever by pitting us against things that are incomprehensibly mightier and greater, be it the Yithians and their science that is indistinguishable from magic to Azathoth which is more akin to the very fabric of the universe made living than an actual creature.
Alessia Aikley And that sun could eventually be swept away by an even larger Cosmic Horror, so yes, it does go both ways.
So far we only found one planet that fosters any life. We are standing on it. Whether the universe nurtures life is still up for debate.
Do not fight that vocabulary you will lose.
Man does not have to accept this fate. The ancestors was consumed by his fear, hopeless in the face of this eldritch horror. Maybe there is a way to stop. One must just dig even deeper
TomeOfBattle that is a beautiful quote, lad
CanDonaldTrumpget10,000,000subscribers you do realize digging is what woke the thing up prematurely right?.
TomeOfBattle not much hope to find when your technically part of it.
Your fallen sense of hope doesn’t help the enlightened flame
Hope is a lie.
And I choose to believe.
That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange eons even death may die
This can't be true at least not forever, they are making a part 2, so what do you think will happen? I think what will happen is that the heir didn't kill themself and has been trying to find a way to end the cycle, found a potential option and hires the adventurers again to help, that, or the heir does kill themself, the adventurers find out about everything, can't live with this fact as it makes all of their personal goal pointless, and seek to stop the cycle. After all in the teaser it shows a snowy mountain, clearly not where the darkest dungeon is, but somewhere new. perhaps an end to this vicious cycle?
1:01 **That Violin**
Hyped for DD 2
I come from the future to explain to those who didnt understand. The ending basically says the game will repeat itself over and over. Even of the threat is quelled, it will call another to awaken in
Thank you for the explain, futurian number 231. Nice to meet you and have a nice time.
Thereisnospoon here are great, but iseedeadpeople, somehow it will be riseandshine in no time. Ys2b7 to skip a level. I've got an endless gamma star and infinite mega nukes sadly they closed the server.
@@LolLol-bo1vb Ah, truly a sad day Futurian 147. I will ride my Hydrorian MegaCaster2000 into the nearest mega-quasar system as sacrifice
“We are one with this thing. Made from, and eventually returned to it”
That’s where you’re wrong, kiddo.
Some guys with swords:kills flesh thingy so it can heal
America seeing it coming back to life: *Its in a cave we got a rocket,and barrel of explosives let’s fuck it up*
Gee, grandpa. Maybe if you didn't fuck around with forces beyond your ken, our family wouldn't be in this situation -_-
Grandpa wanted the eldritch zaza.
So seek solace in a manner befitting your lineage...
came here because I am too salty to finish the game. Glad even the ending agrees that all the grinding would be pointless
i actually love this game kinda i got to darkest dungeon beat all champion bosses and everything but when i got with my party to the darkest dungeon and all my lvl 6 party members with boss trinkets got killed
at that point my love for the game kinda died its still there but i rather not think about it anymore
game would be fine if levels were taken out
Dude this was a great game, I have like 500 hours in the game and I finally beat it today. The ending was fucking sick
500 to beat it? What the fuck dude?
I never took that long to finish it
I took +500 hours to beat it too, but it was mostly because I started a campaign, stopped playing it and deleted it after some time to start a fresh one. Also, part of those hours is just being afk with the game open.
But I finished the game for the first time in 137 in-game weeks.
Oooooh, victory isn't that _triffling_ anymore, eh? Stay salty.
So we are the next ancestor?
Huh.
I want a vid of someone saying victory with the voice of the ancestor but the tone of the tf2 announcer when she says it
Just playing it on loop with the beginning
Yeah everyone would just commit suicide after saving the world from a cosmic god...
I don't understand: if at the end of the game you kill the heart in the egg, then why it keeps coming back?
Duke Phinéas Barton That heart is a literal god. A lovecraftian god. If you know lovecraft you already know what that means.
Because it's just a gestation not a creature we could "kill" in the traditional sense. Especially as humanity is literally birthed from it.
Simple: we didn't kill it, not really. We simply put it back to sleep before it could truly awaken. We can only hold it back, but one day it may awaken anyway.
Duke Phinéas Barton its immortal you are delaying the inevitable
@@ralseiwithagun9859 That's actually metal as fuck when you think about it. These people are probably tithed to become Grey Knights.
Local man ruins all of time.
"... and take up your nugatory vigil. Haunted forever by that sickening prose echoing through the infinite blackness of space and time!" Yeeeeeesh... Ancestor really really needed to unplug/a plug
0:57 "and take up your arm JHUQATORE AN VIGIL"
Someone please translate
+Mocky 'and take up your pugatory vigil'
+drmythbusters nugatory
+drmythbusters which means hell watch
it might also be purgatory which means hellish
Wayne June himself confirmed in an interview that he says "nugatory vigil", which means useless or of no value.
considering the ancestor is basically the hearts mouthpiece, the final boss, immediately after losing, tells you to kill yourself. it might be a god, but i think its pretty low tier...
So... you beat the heart of everything or creation itself... but you can't REALLY kill it or escape it so eventually the stars align and it wakes up anyway and blows up the planet despite your best efforts and then the great THING awakens and recreates all of existence. Okay that makes enough sense.
But then the game implies that it is YOU the relative to the original ancestor that perpetuates the cycle... but you died when the world was remade... so that can't be you. If they're implying that the world is made in the exact same way, then it's still the Ancestor who is causing all the problems in the Hamlet just another incarnation of him. And you would still be a relative of the Ancestor undoing his mistakes.
And if you become like your ancestor after you "slay" the Thing that doesn't make much sense. Because the Ancestor told you all his mistakes and you spent so much time correcting his mistakes and learning from his failures. How could you forget what happened and do the EXACT same thing? Like Do you also hire the brigand 12 pounder? Do you sacrifice another waif to the sea? Hire another crew of pirates to scour the land for relics?
I just really don't understand the implication that you repeat your Ancestors mistakes, if someone understands this can you please explain it to me? I'm confused.
scoople6 When you beat it, you never actually kill it. It goes back into slumber, waiting for the stars to align to attempt an escape once more. This is the futile cycle the ancestor talks about: adventurers, going to the hamlet again and again, only delaying the inevitable, until one slip up happens and the earth blows up.
In the end you hear the narrator say the opening line of the game: « Ruin has come to our family. » and the game starts again. This implies this is the next batch of adventurers coming to delve in the Darkest Dungeon, only to start the cycle once more.
I think there is no "new" ancestor... The Ancestor started the cycle and now, to prevent Man's ruin at the heart of IT, he lures evermore adventurers to the Hamlet to perpetuate the cycle, attempting in futility to prevent IT from truly awakening.
@@orangejoey1459 You know, if you think about it, the "family" he speaks of is not just his bloodline, it is all of mankind. Listen to what he says, the "Great Family of Mankind"
@@orangejoey1459 Okay that can make sense to me. Like how eventually the Thing will begin to stir once more and the new owner of the estate (the role the player takes) or your offspring or someone else hundreds or thousands of years later will continue to attempt to silence it until someone messes up and the world is undone then redone. Yeah that checks out.
Just from the cinematic imagery they make it seem like YOU become the ancestor, saying that you take up the vigil, showing the opening sequence as if YOU were now the ancestor writing the letter and shooting yourself thus setting up the cycle again. That's the part that confused me, the implication that you become the ancestor.
Thanks for the reply, helped clear up my weird nagging issues with the ending.
@@thyrussendria8198 Ah, so a less literal approach? Like it doesn't matter how long ago the ancestor died, he is a ghost that sends out letters to gather up "family" members to come fix his mistake and collect their fortune. The player could succeed then die and the ancestor would send out another letter to another far off family member decades later when the Thing begins to stir and he needs another army of adventurers to put It back to sleep again. I like that idea, that makes enough sense to me.
i see whatcha did their
Someday the sun will collapse ending all life in our planet or the earth will be revealed to be the egg shell if a celestial horror. Either way, we all day in the future
That thing got it's ass Dormamued. It's not that threatening.
I'm very glad I bailed on this game. It was a fuck you from beginning to end.
Is this ending now considered false as there is a sequel? Did we miss the shot and survived?
How so? The end was prevented. However, elsewhere. Beyond mountains of madness, something stirs....
Pretty sure events of DD2 are connected to old plot, but are not actual sequel.
@@OriginalRAB Prevented? Or just delayed?
@@thyrussendria8198 quite right. Delayed. Part of the exestential horror is the inevitability.
@@TheSpitefulSword nah the characters seem to be the same. Maybe while we're fighting in the hamlet the rest of society collapsed and went full mordheim since we see some of the hero's fighting in a ruined city.
I don't know about you guys but I'd prefer if the Hamlet went back to normal and the ghost merely warned you that it is an endless cycle of the folly of man and eventually another will have to stand up and repeat what you did in a meaningless struggle that will eventually be lost. I mean that's basically what they do already but they didn't have to show it being repeated instantly
I think it's a timelapse. That it doesn't literally go back instantly, but they're showing fastforwarded what it'll look like in a couple decades, when the next cycle starts (presumably it gets ruined faster than a normal hamlet would due to monsters and such)
Perhaps the Ghost is the leader of the last fight against the Darkest Dungeon and the Heart, the player who managed to give us, the great family of man, a bit more time to live. The ghost leads you to the Hamlet so the cycle can continue for without it, we are all lost and doomed. They seek to guide the next one to take their place in the Ancestor's plan before fading away, hoping that Man can once again live to see a new dawn.
There's likely multiple hearts that rouse "the thing" when they start beating and bring about the apocalypse. Killing that single heart was about as useful as throwing a tiny pebble into the infinite ocean. You didn't make a wave against the darkness, just a pathetic ripple
Chads after beating the game with 0 deaths: 🤨🤔😂
"Victory. A hollow and ridiculous notion. We are born of this thing, made from it."
Me: Ever heard of cancer m8? Besides, if this eldritch god wants to keep getting their shit kicked in by an old man with leprosy, I'm happy to oblige - no kinkshaming here.
Edit: borked up a word in the Ancestor's speech
i dont think people understand how poetic what the ending is seek solace in a matter befitting your lineage. He is saying that now you know you are not human after witnissing the heart of darkness but of something greater cuthulu give cuthulu your life literally and be reborn to bring everyone to the only truth
while the artwork reminded me of Blood Brothers the game itself reminded me of a Diablo ripoff even the ending felt similar
It's a great game with a fun story but try not to wax too poetic, comment section.
What do you mean this ending is hundred pourcent poetic so what do you expect from comments
the results of the 2020 US election
I feel the ancestor might be wrong about the end of the world 🌍 as the Thing needs the blood and misery and triumphs of its children to *grow* .
Or *he is right* , and just lied 🤥 to get more food 🥘 *for* God 💃🤖.
This was pretty stupid, it was a cop out to make it eternal, dragon's dogma did it right (sorta), but killing the heart of darkness and having it not matter really felt like a diss. I won't even play a second campaign because wow
It based on Lovecraftian god, just like Cthulhu and Azathoth, you can injured Cthulhu and made him sleep in the ocean all you want but it won't matter he will wake up someday, outer god can try to not waking up Azathoth all they want in the end he will wake and everything will disappear. That's the true horror of the inevitable
@@mrdeafter Now that you mention it I don't like Lovecraft either, the Eldritch concept is cool but the rest isn't my forte at all
Maybe all game takes place in the "limbo", and all the characters are dead, prisoners of the darkest dungeon :S
Makes sense
this is bullshit ending we would not do such a thing.
And this breaks rule #7 in my personal "Things Enjoyable Games Do" list: "Your efforts must amount to something." Say what you will about the journey and destination, I feel the stress this games puts on you, the player, should have some payoff.
IMO the "payoff" is knowing you delayed the absolute destruction of planet Earth, along with everything we know and hold dear. Even if it's just for a brief period of time, that's time you gave to the denizens of Earth and/or their posterity.
*snort*
You got your payoff by beating all the bullshit the game threw at you. Your ingame characters are fucked on the other hand, as they have always been.
You don't know how Lovecraftian horror works then.
But the fact the struggle means nothing is the very *point* of the game. You start off fresh, knowing nothing of the land bestowed upon you. And as you plunge further into the madness, the terrors the Ancestor had to endure slowly begin to take their toll on you; ordinary townsfolk are turning into horrific beings, but you keep pushing onward towards the inevitable. And in the end, you realize that the horrors you've endured are too much for you to bear, thus sealing your fate as that of the Ancestor.
I don't want to come across as arrogant, but I think you've missed the point entirely if you don't feel satisfied with the game's ending. You weren't immersed, you just wanted to see what the game -- rather than its narrative -- had to offer. You didn't think of your characters as *people*, you just saw them as tables full of numbers and variables. And I'm not saying that's wrong, that's literally the point of the game, but it's the narrative itself that makes Darkest Dungeon such a horrific and depressing game.
XD Damn this game is way too edgy for me
lame
Garbage.