You know after the first cinematic i thought that maybe for once madness in a area wasn't the Ancestor's fault and that the Countess caused this one, but no he just had to make wine out of her Blood.
I would say it's only 50% his fault this time. He didn't invite the Countess or seek her out, she just showed up. Still, blood wine was a terrible idea.
To be fair I think that moment with the countess is what pushed him over the edge, the revelation that monsters do in fact exist could be enough to push even the most reasonable man into irrational thinking. And maybe in that moment "The Thing beneath the Manor" spoke to him making its move to use him to enter our world starting with a massive blood sacrifice, leading to the events before the Darkest Dungeon.
@@oscarriveraabal9390 above all else the Ancestor desired power, he wanted to be something more than merely a man. His wealth and noble upbringing had already allowed him to experience every pleasure available to humans in this world and he had become bored with that. A few, brief, glimpses into the occult had shown him that the universe did in fact have more to offer, so he pursued that in hopes of learning secrets beyond human or mortal understanding. The Countess was his first encounter with something truly supernatural and he recklessly pursued this revelation with every ounce of obsession he had. It's debatable whether he actually defeated the Countess or not, it's very likely that the Countess allowed him to win because she knew what he would do or the Heart of Darkness intervened and helped the ancestor to win. The Countess definitely has a connection to the Heart, whether as a creation, servant, avatar, or just another human who was deeply cursed by it like the ancestor. Regardless, the Countess was very likely sent or lured to the ancestor by the Heart to sent the events of the game in motion and prepare for the Heart's awakening.
BipolarMadness "The party is going spectacular, time to serve the horrors that weren't meant to be known by mankind that I got from the guy living downstairs my opulent and imperial mansion ."
I love how every single person or group, that to any other character would be an antagonist, gets spectacularly ruined by the Ancestor. The Countess is probably the best example, trying to get at the Ancestor. To her misfortune, he had already figured her out the moment he witnessed her walk down the hall.
@@spacehitler4537 Now now, he didn't MAKE wine from her blood, thats not how that works. He merely tainted the entire family wine collection in an attempt to poison a bunch of sadist aristocrats he used to consider friends!
@@redgunnit he actually drank some of it, so I doubt that he tried to poison everyone, I think he just wanted to kinda mock Countless even after her death
"let's kill this lady for shits and giggles and then serve her blood as wine!" Later "Oh god she was a monster! ...Whelp lets serve the blood wine anyway! Whats the worst that could happen?" 10/10 Best idea ever.
At least AFTER he drank her blood he had the excuse that he was under the Heart's influence. No idea wtf was wrong with him thinking it would be totally fine to drink the blood of the fucking weremosquito that just tried to kill him tho
To be more accurate, he saw that something wasn't right with her, though I'm not sure how... or what exactly he thought was dodgy about her. Then it was a case of "Let's kill her before she kills someone else, and I'll make a show of it... OH CRAP WHAT IS SHE?!" followed by "She was a horrible insectoid vampire monster. Drinking her blood sounds like a fantastic idea!" Wait WHAT. Also, why would blood contain tannin? Why would people drink it? Was it mixed with actual wine so they couldn't taste it? And why isn't the Ancestor a vampire after that point if he drank it?
NO it was nothing more than a Chance to continue the Reawaking of the Heart The Heir Became the Next Harold of The heart for as they looked upon its Cosmic Hideousness and Glory They became Attached to Its Story Forever Feeding and Sealing the God In a Maddening and Morbid cycle. We all are the Heirs of the Ancestor we all Know what Madness and Terror lies beneath the Earth we Know its Fruitless to try and stop it And yet we continue. Are we No Better?
What do you think the ancestor did? he Suicided and became the Avatar for the Heart of Darkness because he saw and knew of the Great God the same fate would fall upon the heir
You know, even though I love Wayne June's narrating, I think we should give some credit to the writers as well. Sometimes I feel that they were given a thesaurus and an order to not repeat a single word. "Mercifully the morbid encounter resolved itself in my favor." "I knifed the bitch." Sure, Wayne could still make it sound awesome, but it wouldn't have had that awesome vibe.
@Afqwa dude is a fucking idiot tho. He's obviously aware of what he did wrong and never lets you forget it "in time you will learn the extent of my failings"
honestly for the crimson court part I would have done the same. I would flay off the skin of every living person except for the genitals and then leave them to the mercy of life
I love how everything in Crimson Court just fits together so well. Everyone's a vampire, but not just a stereotypically supernatural one; They're all just gross hybrids of man and mosquito. Mosquitoes, of course, tend to hang out in swampy areas, which is where the courtyard is placed. So the people of the courtyard, turned into foul mashings of bug and human, just sorta stayed there. It's like a puzzle where every piece fits the other perfectly.
Can we point out that among this evil mastermind's many accomplishments and horrifying acts of irredeemable evil, one of them was fighting a super-powerful vampiric Countess in a one-on-one fight, with a small knife, and winning? I don't know that I would have wanted my adventurers to fight him while he was alive...
Oh please, our adventurers can take on the Heart of Darkness itself, and if you're a decent enough commander, you can do it without even sacrificing any of them. The Ancestor would be dreading meeting THEM! I've been playing too much Bloodborne...
i remember reading somewhere that he was a master fighter in his younger age and dont forget that he had quite suprise in his favor... she didnt even get the chance to morph properly and thats why when she was reincarnated she is this monster that cant fully turn in either form
@@mcdino6421 Honestly? I'd advise against it. It'll come across as pretentious. The reason it works so well here is that The Ancestor is a nobleman in a gothic horror world heavily inspired by the Lovecraftian mythos. If he didn't speak with such... sesquipedalian loquaciousness it wouldn't work as well. If, however, the average person on the street talked like that, the best reaction you'd get is people thinking they were talking to a posh twat that wants to lord it over everyone else. At worst people would get visibly irritated at the fact that you're doing that.
"Ay I may have laid waste to our home, town, and the population. But i got some sick knowledge out of it, but I'm gonna let you fix instead." - From Uncle Ancestor
I don't feel too bad for them though. They were all apparently unsavory and degenerate, one dude apparently fit to just sit there and eat garbage for fun.
I love this idea of a vampire seductress being brutally murdered because her mortal prey was an even bigger monster who immediately jumped to murder, when finding himself feeling slightly bewitched.
Can we all appreciate for a moment that the Creators used Mosquitoes as the animalistic theme of the vampires instead of bats? I mean, bats aren't even scary! They're cute! And, like, one of them at most actually goes for blood. Mosquitoes? Infinitely worse, actually suck blood, and I'm still waiting to meet someone who finds them unironically cute.
It really does make sense. All the Parasites in the CC, (Leeches, Ticks, and the posterboy, Mosquitos.), are ACTUAL Bloodsuckers and are really fitting for Vampires more so than Bats.
Happened to me against champion necromancer, ole reynauld held his ground virtuously against 3 hidden skellies while an afflicted party was trying to pass every turn at once (necromancer died of bleeding though)
@@silvermine97 In a recent game, Reynauld became vigorous against a Siren, while the rest of the party were going crazy and chaning sides. The man kept his game and DODGED her charm twice. Gotta say when he's not stealing and being an idiot, Reynauld is true badass.
@@awesomepocalypse3203 Again, I have played the game but I know the messed up things hmthis dude has done, he did gaindled the strength to overpower the vampire queen but really, did he truly needed to infest the court aside from destroying everyone lifes on the regular areas?
He must just be really good at killing things. I mean, his first thought when seeing her is "gosh, i'm not doing anything interesting today, how about I kill this person and serve her blood as wine." As for the Countess, git gud skrub Also, he only drank a drop, which implies to me that he only got a small enough dose to sense the blood flowing through the Heart of the World without going into a blood-frenzy. I don't think there was a secret plan by the Countess, the Ancestor isn't sensible enough to predict what he's going to do on any given day. Also also, the Ancestor's Vintage must not be 100% The Blood or else it would prevent Crimson Curse Craving entirely. It might actually be a blood-based wine derivative or something. I have no clue there, but it isn't 100% Blood whatever it is. Basically, he took 1/100th the dose of Blood that most everyone else took (especially since everyone else there is a hedonist and probably drank plenty of the stuff without thinking). Perhaps he wanted to savor his victory, rather than gulp it down gluttonously. Who knows.
The ancestor in those younger days was a nihilistic degenerate psichopath who instantly looked at the Countess and glimpsed her murderous intent from body language alone. After killing her, the man then served her blood so as to mock the beast, turning the predator who was hunting the attenders at the party, into prey, to be consumed in sadistic, ironic victory. He is basically a less cannibla version of Hannibal. He's as badass as he is insane.
@@KRIMZONMEKANISM damn. You almost got every, single, thing, wrong there. But yes. He did put up a sadistic display. Morals of the wicked laid bare to themselves
Khada Jhin Yes his opinion is the only one in the world to be wrong. Thank you for pointing that out on a year old comment like the true lore master you are
couldn't the ancestor just have gone senile with age or broken his back horseriding like every other nobleman too rich for his own good? did it HAVE to be parties involving eldritch monsters tainted blood and eldritcher abominations? why do i always get stuck with either a grand destiny or an ancient family curse?
My theory is that everyone at the party who drank the wine got 100% stress. When tested they got the affliction Rapturous. The Ancestor got Focused. With his knowledge it was an over powered Focused mind you.
The thing that's so interesting is when the ancestor "understood the terrible truth of the world", he got something that is a mix between Affliction and Virtue, a shinning Iron Crown.
I'd like to point out the Ancestor is the most terrifying thing in these scenes. For starters, this random lady walks down the hall whom the ancestor SUSPECTS, is a bad person. His first thought? To murder her. Secondly, if you look at the ancestor after he kills the countess, you see no visible wounds on him, which means he fought the count with what could be considered a butter knife and won WITHOUT A SCRATCH. Thirdly, even after the count turned into a weremosquito or whatever, he still decided "Hey, let's put this ladies blood in this wine!" and even after the wine was served and all the guests turned into weremosquitos you can still see at the ending scene that the ancestor is again, without harm. Which either means he somehow fought every guest there and won without taking a hit, or somehow was ignored by everyone. In conclusion: Thank god the Ancestor is no longer alive, he would be by far the hardest boss to beat in this game.
how insane is this? ancestor notices a guest is actually a monster in human flesh, thinks 'you know what would be awesome? if i turned this game of cat and mouse on its head.' he kills her and thinks 'you know what would be even more awesome? if i spiked everyones drinks with monster blood. and oh yeah, ill have a cup for myself as well' like, the fucking vampire is the least terrifying thing in this clip
What makes her terrifying is that we never truly know who or what she actually was, much less what she might have been planning, if anything at all. We see that the Ancestor referred to her as "A bewitching predator" and that the moon revealed "her in human desires" but we do know that madness runs in the family for the Ancestor, plus he himself admits that he was "driven mad by cloying vulgarity" and that he willingly let the Baron torture and kill people in his home because he didn't want to seem like a hypocrite. His first thought upon seeing her is also to kill her, so we have no idea of the true extent of just what happened there. Was the Countess truly an evil monster at the time? Was she truly killed and then resurrected or did she play along and let him infect everyone with her blood? Was it even her blood that caused this and not the house vintage? How come she appears first as this human lady but turns into a gargantuan monster by the time the heir arrives? Why is it that if she is the only queen of this insect plague, she gives officer positions to particularly deranged people? So many questions and so much lore to theorise about, but ultimately we cannot draw absolute conclusions. There are just enough stray strands to say "Hmmm...but maybe not." to make it seem vague, unfocused and much scarier than it ever could be if they made a clear declaration of just how powerful any one character is.
Have you noticed the halo above his head? In game, this form represents some kind of affliction, but the color is white like one of the virtues. So in his eyes this madness was something favorable
Oh you're right! Going virtuous was only a clean circle, becoming Afflicted has the strikes in the arc. Maybe it represents becoming attuned to cosmic enlightenment?
What's kinda terrifying is that the Countess doesn't start out as that horrifying monster we encounter: She was able to take a human form, as we see here, but while the ancestor defeated her, he didn't kill her. After all, he didn't stake her through the heart, and her blood clearly didn't coagulate. But time passed, her servants brought her more and more blood, and she changed from a mere vampire to a kind of uber-vamp.
I imagine listening to a conversation between Wayne June (the narrator for DD) and Morgan Freeman would be among the most epic experiences one could ever witness
So... drinking the blood of an ancient evil monster can either turn you into a monster as well, or it can give you cosmic knowledge that which no mortal should have the burden of carrying?
borderlands10 This is pretty late, but the ancestor said he only had a single drop of the wine that gave him the knowledge of the horrors below. He basically drank 1/1000 of the effect while the other nobles just chugged it all down and turned into mosquito like monsters.
The Ancestor has committed so MANY atrocities it's actually easy to lose track. Murder? That's the least of his crimes. Calling him a murderer is like calling a tornado a breeze. It's not overlooked... it's eclipsed by all the other bullshit he's done. You're worried about a crime he almost committed. Who gives a shit. That's nothing. Maybe if someone else had done it, that would be of note, but THIS ASSHOLE is special. He goes above and beyond ordinary evil. What about the time he chained a young girl to a statue and pushed her into the ocean so she could drown to death AND fish monsters could transform her into their queen fish monster? What about the time he created deformed pig people with dark magic and then dumped them all into a sewer? What about the time he hired mercenaries to kill large amounts of the local populace because they dared complain about all THE DARK MAGIC he was plaguing them with? And that's just the tip of the iceberg. You're worried about the time he almost killed a lady? One lady? Who was a monster and deserved it? That wasn't even the fucked up part! He used her blood to make wine that turned all his guests into vampires! For fun! Where is your head at??
@@rymaxrules6416 His intuition told him she's bad news, and "driven half mad by the vulgarity" he chose to get rid of her himself. Thats when he discovered the truth
Let this be a lesson learned. No matter how fiendish a man may be, he is but a mortal; forever unable to match the vileness of a real monst- oh for fucks sake!
It was to symbolise how feeble and powerless the Ancestor was compared to the Heart, to strip him down to his core. To show him the deep, unsettling truth of existence itself, back where man was nothing but a simple, sentient being. "Fragile, like a robin's egg."
well. In the glimpse of truth, humans will only be thinking about who to fuck over and completely miss the cosmic meaning in this reality. THAT, is why. He laid their morals bare. That, is why he gave them the blood of the Countess. So they could feast upon their own degeneracy
big deal, I defeated the countess with just a knife before they nerfed riposte in Colors of madness. send some highwaymen in and you'll see just how much prodigious size fails to dissuade the sharpened blade
Also, good lord, the Ancestor is just the worse. Like, he invites a bunch of asshole nobles to his home, decides to kill one of them for no discernible reason (though that reason quickly becomes “self-defence”). Then, for yet another unknown reason, he drains the Countess’ blood and gives it to the other asshole nobles as wine. Furthermore, this is before he got into his whole “evil sorcerer” schtick. This wasn’t for some ritual, he did all of this purely because the mood struck him.
Isn't this a big retcon? Originally, the Ancestor was already old and grey-haired when he first learned about the heart of darkness. The narration says he found out through old writings in his bookshelf. Why would he wait and do nothing for several decades after this revelation?
He learned that the heart of darkness existed, but A: he needed the resources and manpower to uncover it, B: he needed to learn the dark arts in order to be able to access and awaken it, and C: he needed to keep it safe after he awakened. He's crazy, but not dumb, and being able to understand this cosmic entity before poking it with a stick would explain why it took so long, especially since he needed to find some long forgotten sacred texts to understand it.
No, I think he'd been evil for a while. I mean, he _did_ plan to kill this woman for shits and giggles even before he knew what she was, and then (for no apparent reason) decided to mix/bottle her blood as wine and serve it to his guests. That's a pretty fucked up thing to do. In short, he was already one sick puppy. All this event appeared to do was prompt him to look into what was underneath the manor.
I suspect that the countess might have been a previous servant of the heart of darkness, since she was the source of the crimson curse, The ancestor did not know this of course and just saw a political and slightly off in retroprospect threat in the countess and just barely managed to incapaticate it. with the ancestor being in his younger less experienced with fucked up shit might he have intended to blackmail the nobility by feeding them the countess's blood wine but did not anticipate them going utter batshit, then due to him ingesting a single drop of the blood, he saw the truth and hence started his mad dive to the darkest dungeon
Speculating here; whatever way she came upon that power, perhaps she had ties to the "singularly striking young woman" who apparently knew of the horror beneath the manor, and would later on become the Hag. This is probably entering fanfiction territory, but perhaps the two were related and came upon a sample of the Heart of Darkness. But while the Countess drank of it without abandon, her friend/relative wanted to know more about the stuff and decided to work with the Ancestor to get a better idea of what they were dealing with.
+Joep Van Melick Well, the game draws a lot of lore from Lovecraft, and Lovecraft got his stuff from occultism and basic science, sooo... The Blood being ingested is perhaps not just the blood of the Countess; it would have to be mixed for it to pass as wine. Even if it's not, it's likely to be a potent hallucinogen. And alkaloids and other drugs have been used to get visions since time immemorial, so there's a good chance it was the Blood that got him started on his quest. It's pretty accurate, too: one of the noted effects of drugs (heroin or crack, I forget which) is that the nerves on the skin tingle, making it feel like there are bugs crawling underneath, which then leads patients to scratch themselves raw, to the point of bleeding. The nobles here turned on themselves, remember, not each other. They're chewing their own arms off. However, the opening of the game implies he'd gotten tired of conventional extravagance and then started experimenting. He had a broad, broad taste in magic, ranging from demon summoning into pigs to necromancy to more hallucinogenic vision drugs. The whole Courtyard storyline seems to paint the Ancestor as less of a Lovecraft character and more of a Marquis de Sade type. By the time the Countess came around, he was already getting tired of the usual thrills, and had turned to murder and such for his buzz. Not only that, but he was *surrounded* by people who felt the same way. What makes the Ancestor different is that he ended up finding something else to get his rocks off: that magic and that portal. Keep in mind, he got tired of demonic magic in the end, too. He was evil before the Countess came around, and so were the other nobles. Possibly he was already experimenting with magic by then. But the Countess set him on the path to finding the portal, that is definitely true. Possibly the reason he was different was because he was tampering with magic already at that point, or the mansion itself was already exerting some influence on him, making him less susceptible to the cannibalism reflex and more open to the vision side of it.
+Boah-Noah I'd suggest that the Countess is exactly as she appears to be: A parasite, there to drink the blood of the star-spawn's errant flesh that is humanity. It would explain the motif of the bloodsuckers as ticks and mosquitoes, while the Crimson Curse would be their way of reproducing like a virus, taking the flesh that is humanity and twisting it to fit their form. It would explain why the gentry began devouring themselves as the urge to devour humanity took over while it gave the Ancestor a quick glimpse of outside truth before he decided to become one with the Heart of Darkness.
So in short the crimson curse infects your mind and body to bloodlet and waste for the heart to feast. I wonder how it originated because countess was patient x and we don't know much about her
The Countess has an interesting design choice. Every single character in the game has their eyes obscured by shadow, except for her, which are an unsettling shade of deep red. The eyes are the windows to the soul, so having one’s eye shrouded is to obscure the soul, but to have them as pure red is to show that this person is proudly inhuman.
Uncle Corny Sell meth to kindergartners to buy recreational child soliders to murder your neighbor because leaves from his tree landed on your yard violating the nap.
In those younger years, my home was a hive of unbridled hedonism. A roiling apiary, where instinct and impulse were indulged with wild abandon. A bewitching predator, slipped in amidst the swarm of tittering sycophants. Though outwardly urbane, I could sense in her a mocking thirst. Driven half mad by cloying vulgarity, I plotted to rid myself of this lurking threat in a grand display of sadistic sport. But as the moment of murder drew nigh, the gibbous moon revealed her inhuman desires in all their stultifying hideousness. Mercifully the morbid encounter resolved itself in my favor. And I set to work pursuing degeneracy, in its most decadent forms. The air pulsed with anticipation, as I revealed the unnatural terroir of the house vintage. But my exultation was cut short, as the attending gentry turned upon themselves in an orgy of indescribable frenzy. A single drop of that forbidden tannin gifted me with a dizzying glimpse of the hibernating horror beneath my feet and in that moment, I understood the terrible truth of the world. I stood reborn, molted by newfound knowledge. My head throbbing to the growing whine of winged vermin come to drink the tainted blood... Of the Darkest Dungeon. Typing this out just because I want to see how many words I could learn from this cutscene.
I would like to point out a small detail I just thought about. The first time you attempt the Viscount mission, the ancestor says that they discarded the idea of eating the composting refuse because it was "decidedly unhealthy". However, literally everyone at his party sees nothing wrong with drinking an eldritch mosquito's blood. You'd think that drinking any blood would be more unhealthy than a bit of rotting food, but I guess I'm not rich enough to understand.
@@epicbananaman7776 Terroir in this sentence might mean few things. He might had said that he put some blood in it or that he had revealed its contents fully. It is not possible to say the exact extent of what he had meant.
Up untill now, I am still not sure to the bone if Shiki or Darkest Dungeon has the most mindfucked, straightforwardly merciless story of all, but the urge to choose DD as the most terrifying game yet having the most beautiful narration is drawing me close intensly. Yup.
I believe I have a feeling that the crimson curse that the countess carries might just be the blood of The heart of darkness itself and that the countess is full of the hearts blood and that the the crimson curse is self terminating, because the countess actually dosent infect somebody on the scale the nobles were infected and she isn't so powerful and fit when the ancestor was alive. And she's depressed quite rapidly since she's lost almost all the hearts blood and that the blood gives visions to certain people of the heart of darkness and it also may be a lure of sorts to draw certain people to the heart of darkness
Awesome story, most disappointing DLC I've ever purchased. I was hoping for something interesting and challenging, and instead I got something frustratingly tedious. Or to put it another way... Despite the grandeur of the malignant tales, this... Haphazard addition gave promise of, it was a grievous lapse in better judgement. In my careless anticipation of a greater, more profound encapsulation of distilled escapism, and a lust for the dangerous and disturbing, I instead laid witness to a miserable quarry of fruitless toil, and agonizing perpetuity. My greatest folly, and a wasteful drain of my already dwindling coffers.
Most sophisticated review ever. And I also disliked this DLC, it's way too intrusive. Would only recommend for people who have beaten the base game to hell and back (literally, heh) and even then it's still kind of a slog.
@@CidGuerreiro1234 Now that I've gotten into modding, I kind of have to go through it at some point. I can still test the court trinkets for my mod without CC enabled, but I really should go through with it.
Most men; "Hey there gorgeous, how you doin'?" The Ancestor: "I'm going to use your cursed blood to fuck over my guests by damning them for eternity for shits n' giggles."
I'm curious to know what the ancestor expected to happen from drinking eldritch demon blood? Did he think they would all just gain super powers or something? In a way I suppose they did...
You gotta understand that the nobles deserved it. They allowed themselves to lose all sense of decency, they turned suffering into sport and cruelty into merriment, all while leeching off of the ancestors fortunes, keeping him in a cycle of social pressure. Nobody can blame him for wanting to stick it to them. If he had known what was going to happen then I doubt he would have done it, for remember, he stopped himself from drinking the moment he saw them turn - that shows he did not know. Still a sick sense of humor, but in this case, everyone are assholes.
In style, Marie Antoinette is more than Countess Bathory. I would call the DLC Queen Toinette's Revenge. When he killed her in this accursed place and gave everyone to drink this blood in which there were memories of the Terror of 1794, all those who drank the blood became the very beasts that began a real feast of madness. =)
![[SPOILERS] Ancestor's speeches in the Darkest Dungeon](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fiqCYrNmwkM/mqdefault.jpg)
"So...how was the wine?"
"My guests got a really strong buzz out of it."
ZorotheGallade get out
@@arawn1061 ^^^
No just no
Hm! I heard it kinda gives the tongue quite the *sting* of sharp flavours.
That one was really good
You know after the first cinematic i thought that maybe for once madness in a area wasn't the Ancestor's fault and that the Countess caused this one, but no he just had to make wine out of her Blood.
LOCAL MAN RUINS EVERYTHING!
I would say it's only 50% his fault this time. He didn't invite the Countess or seek her out, she just showed up. Still, blood wine was a terrible idea.
To be fair I think that moment with the countess is what pushed him over the edge, the revelation that monsters do in fact exist could be enough to push even the most reasonable man into irrational thinking. And maybe in that moment "The Thing beneath the Manor" spoke to him making its move to use him to enter our world starting with a massive blood sacrifice, leading to the events before the Darkest Dungeon.
@@MrTwistedLizard nah, he was an asshole even before that, the blood thing just revealed the darkest dungeon to him
@@oscarriveraabal9390 above all else the Ancestor desired power, he wanted to be something more than merely a man. His wealth and noble upbringing had already allowed him to experience every pleasure available to humans in this world and he had become bored with that. A few, brief, glimpses into the occult had shown him that the universe did in fact have more to offer, so he pursued that in hopes of learning secrets beyond human or mortal understanding. The Countess was his first encounter with something truly supernatural and he recklessly pursued this revelation with every ounce of obsession he had. It's debatable whether he actually defeated the Countess or not, it's very likely that the Countess allowed him to win because she knew what he would do or the Heart of Darkness intervened and helped the ancestor to win. The Countess definitely has a connection to the Heart, whether as a creation, servant, avatar, or just another human who was deeply cursed by it like the ancestor. Regardless, the Countess was very likely sent or lured to the ancestor by the Heart to sent the events of the game in motion and prepare for the Heart's awakening.
*sees first cutscene*
Dayum, alright Ancestor, this one wasn't your fault, I will help you
*sees second cutscene*
Sigh...
its ALWAYS his fault.
BioMatic2 comet in Color of Madness wasn’t his fault... At some point.
@@GregLdov Of course it was, he summoned the damn thing.
Start of first cutscene: her boobs look so gropable.
Transformation: no thanks
@@deathserpent9747 you DESERVE whatever horrors she inflicts on you.
the ancestor would win every game of Cards Against humanity
The Ancestor is a walking card against humanity.
He's not just a aristocrat, he's THE aristocrat.
Blood, the daemon lady i just murdered
BipolarMadness "The party is going spectacular, time to serve the horrors that weren't meant to be known by mankind that I got from the guy living downstairs my opulent and imperial mansion ."
I want to play CAH with Wayne June.
I love how every single person or group, that to any other character would be an antagonist, gets spectacularly ruined by the Ancestor. The Countess is probably the best example, trying to get at the Ancestor. To her misfortune, he had already figured her out the moment he witnessed her walk down the hall.
Well, he figured out she was up to something. He just wasn't aware of the whole "literally a monster" thing.
@@malcomalexander9437 Then for shits and giggles he made WINE OUT OF HER.
@@spacehitler4537 Now now, he didn't MAKE wine from her blood, thats not how that works. He merely tainted the entire family wine collection in an attempt to poison a bunch of sadist aristocrats he used to consider friends!
@@redgunnit he actually drank some of it, so I doubt that he tried to poison everyone, I think he just wanted to kinda mock Countless even after her death
@@redgunnit tbh he hated them, he enjoyed the townsfolk more
"let's kill this lady for shits and giggles and then serve her blood as wine!"
Later "Oh god she was a monster! ...Whelp lets serve the blood wine anyway! Whats the worst that could happen?"
10/10 Best idea ever.
Even later: "Oh god, the world is the egg of a hideous eldritch abomination...let's wake it up!"
Can't imagine how bored he must be at that point.
At least AFTER he drank her blood he had the excuse that he was under the Heart's influence. No idea wtf was wrong with him thinking it would be totally fine to drink the blood of the fucking weremosquito that just tried to kill him tho
C'maaan, you've never wondered what monster blood tastes like?
To be more accurate, he saw that something wasn't right with her, though I'm not sure how... or what exactly he thought was dodgy about her. Then it was a case of "Let's kill her before she kills someone else, and I'll make a show of it... OH CRAP WHAT IS SHE?!"
followed by "She was a horrible insectoid vampire monster. Drinking her blood sounds like a fantastic idea!"
Wait WHAT.
Also, why would blood contain tannin? Why would people drink it? Was it mixed with actual wine so they couldn't taste it?
And why isn't the Ancestor a vampire after that point if he drank it?
Local man ruins everything once again
light in the dark
....Again.
Man, is there ANYTHING *good* about the ancestor?
Well he did send the Letter to the heir to stop the The Heart of Darkness
and from the intro he did seem to regret what he done.
NO
it was nothing more than a Chance to continue the Reawaking of the Heart
The Heir Became the Next Harold of The heart for as they looked upon its Cosmic Hideousness and Glory They became Attached to Its Story
Forever Feeding and Sealing the God In a Maddening and Morbid cycle.
We all are the Heirs of the Ancestor
we all Know what Madness and Terror lies beneath the Earth
we Know its Fruitless to try and stop it
And yet we continue.
Are we No Better?
Point taken
What do you think the ancestor did?
he Suicided
and became the Avatar for the Heart of Darkness
because he saw and knew of the Great God
the same fate would fall upon the heir
You know, even though I love Wayne June's narrating, I think we should give some credit to the writers as well. Sometimes I feel that they were given a thesaurus and an order to not repeat a single word.
"Mercifully the morbid encounter resolved itself in my favor."
"I knifed the bitch."
Sure, Wayne could still make it sound awesome, but it wouldn't have had that awesome vibe.
The Biscuitstick I'd definetly want to hear him say "I knifed that bitch."
I wish they'd make a dlc which replaces June with Samuel L Jackson, and he's just written all his own lines.
Also would sound really out of place for that feudal atmosphere that it has
@@lukelblitz3627 Would be awesome though
That line sounds amazing though
In time, you will know the tragic extent of my failings.
Shortly after that you will spite me from those failings.
Yes, i too would drain the corpse of the eldritch being i somehow killed with a knife and serve the blood to my guests. Perfecly rational decision.
Charles Herby Rational is not equal to Ancestor.
i do it in my birthdary, everyone become into mad creatures but hey, it was fun
THANK YOU!! XD
@Afqwa dude is a fucking idiot tho. He's obviously aware of what he did wrong and never lets you forget it "in time you will learn the extent of my failings"
honestly for the crimson court part I would have done the same.
I would flay off the skin of every living person except for the genitals and then leave them to the mercy of life
I love how everything in Crimson Court just fits together so well. Everyone's a vampire, but not just a stereotypically supernatural one; They're all just gross hybrids of man and mosquito. Mosquitoes, of course, tend to hang out in swampy areas, which is where the courtyard is placed. So the people of the courtyard, turned into foul mashings of bug and human, just sorta stayed there. It's like a puzzle where every piece fits the other perfectly.
Some are ticks, too
The gist of the ancestor's story: "I accidentally the whole dynasty."
You accidentally what
The whole dynasty.
Hehe
i accidentally, the whole dynasty*
"""""Accidentaly"""""
Can we point out that among this evil mastermind's many accomplishments and horrifying acts of irredeemable evil, one of them was fighting a super-powerful vampiric Countess in a one-on-one fight, with a small knife, and winning? I don't know that I would have wanted my adventurers to fight him while he was alive...
I mean, the Countess probably didn't have 200+ HP back then.
He's also a damn wizard. Summoning, blood magic, necromancy, magic potions, he did it all.
I'd like to think those are after he drank the blood and became the Herald for the Heart
Oh please, our adventurers can take on the Heart of Darkness itself, and if you're a decent enough commander, you can do it without even sacrificing any of them. The Ancestor would be dreading meeting THEM!
I've been playing too much Bloodborne...
i remember reading somewhere that he was a master fighter in his younger age and dont forget that he had quite suprise in his favor... she didnt even get the chance to morph properly and thats why when she was reincarnated she is this monster that cant fully turn in either form
"cloying vulgarity"
"stultifying hideousness"
"unnatural terroir"
damn these writings. absolutely epic!
Imagine knowing a guy who speaks like that in real life.
That is definitely a Lovecraftian amount of Swiftyisms.
I'm a foreigner and my one goal in life is to learn to speak in such subtle way. :D
Titering sycophants is also a pretty good pair of words
@@mcdino6421 Honestly? I'd advise against it. It'll come across as pretentious.
The reason it works so well here is that The Ancestor is a nobleman in a gothic horror world heavily inspired by the Lovecraftian mythos. If he didn't speak with such... sesquipedalian loquaciousness it wouldn't work as well.
If, however, the average person on the street talked like that, the best reaction you'd get is people thinking they were talking to a posh twat that wants to lord it over everyone else. At worst people would get visibly irritated at the fact that you're doing that.
"Local man ruins everything."
This game in a nutshell.
"Ay I may have laid waste to our home, town, and the population. But i got some sick knowledge out of it, but I'm gonna let you fix instead." - From Uncle Ancestor
Solos Fate such a kind soul
"Eyy kid, want some _eldritch knowledge_ ?"
I think hes grandpa
So the vampires were nobles the ancestor screwed over, I figured it'd be something like that.
Like always haha
I don't feel too bad for them though. They were all apparently unsavory and degenerate, one dude apparently fit to just sit there and eat garbage for fun.
Don't worry, they're nobles. There was never much human in them to work with in the first place
I love this idea of a vampire seductress being brutally murdered because her mortal prey was an even bigger monster who immediately jumped to murder, when finding himself feeling slightly bewitched.
Can we all appreciate for a moment that the Creators used Mosquitoes as the animalistic theme of the vampires instead of bats?
I mean, bats aren't even scary! They're cute! And, like, one of them at most actually goes for blood. Mosquitoes? Infinitely worse, actually suck blood, and I'm still waiting to meet someone who finds them unironically cute.
Mosquitoes can also give some pretty fucked up deceases too.
also ticks. the main enemy aside from the mosquitos is a tick that latched onto the head of a noble.
It really does make sense.
All the Parasites in the CC, (Leeches, Ticks, and the posterboy, Mosquitos.), are ACTUAL Bloodsuckers and are really fitting for Vampires more so than Bats.
I can only think of one person who would find mosquitoes cute and he's from an anime.
Pacific Bobcat9er A character is different from a person
1:54 when your squad is afficted but last one gets virtue
It's something atleast
Happened to me against champion necromancer, ole reynauld held his ground virtuously against 3 hidden skellies while an afflicted party was trying to pass every turn at once (necromancer died of bleeding though)
When 2 of them gets virtue despite the other getting paranoid
@@silvermine97 bleeding... in ruins... i think i know why you had 3 resolve checks...
@@silvermine97 In a recent game, Reynauld became vigorous against a Siren, while the rest of the party were going crazy and chaning sides. The man kept his game and DODGED her charm twice. Gotta say when he's not stealing and being an idiot, Reynauld is true badass.
I was: "Ok Ancestor you were ok in this sit---" Ancestor uses the blood to turn the entire court into vampires; "Come on."
Breaking news: Local man can’t stop ruining everything for everyone forever
@@awesomepocalypse3203 Again, I have played the game but I know the messed up things hmthis dude has done, he did gaindled the strength to overpower the vampire queen but really, did he truly needed to infest the court aside from destroying everyone lifes on the regular areas?
" _let's kill that girl and put his blood in the wine 4 the lol's xd xd xd_ "
-The ancestor
Don't know about you, but I think that the Ancestor was a few wine glasses short of a violent orgy.
I would've done the same
"her"
@@Isk-an_---_deR96 "it"
@@Isk-an_---_deR96 did you just assume their gender?
Heeeey
Ancestor was pretty handsome in his yougner days
dat man No wonder why siren wanted to tap while she was hot.
Now we know what's in the tempting goblets....*shudder*
My GOD! Wait, why don't they infect then?
DON'T GIVE IDEAS TO THE DEVS!!
Maybe the goblets are full of dry blood. I dunno. I don't know how blood works.
The heroes don't drink the liquid, they get squirted of it.
indeed what the actual fuck
He must just be really good at killing things. I mean, his first thought when seeing her is "gosh, i'm not doing anything interesting today, how about I kill this person and serve her blood as wine."
As for the Countess, git gud skrub
Also, he only drank a drop, which implies to me that he only got a small enough dose to sense the blood flowing through the Heart of the World without going into a blood-frenzy. I don't think there was a secret plan by the Countess, the Ancestor isn't sensible enough to predict what he's going to do on any given day.
Also also, the Ancestor's Vintage must not be 100% The Blood or else it would prevent Crimson Curse Craving entirely. It might actually be a blood-based wine derivative or something. I have no clue there, but it isn't 100% Blood whatever it is.
Basically, he took 1/100th the dose of Blood that most everyone else took (especially since everyone else there is a hedonist and probably drank plenty of the stuff without thinking). Perhaps he wanted to savor his victory, rather than gulp it down gluttonously. Who knows.
The ancestor in those younger days was a nihilistic degenerate psichopath who instantly looked at the Countess and glimpsed her murderous intent from body language alone.
After killing her, the man then served her blood so as to mock the beast, turning the predator who was hunting the attenders at the party, into prey, to be consumed in sadistic, ironic victory.
He is basically a less cannibla version of Hannibal. He's as badass as he is insane.
@@KRIMZONMEKANISM damn. You almost got every, single, thing, wrong there.
But yes. He did put up a sadistic display. Morals of the wicked laid bare to themselves
Khada Jhin Yes his opinion is the only one in the world to be wrong. Thank you for pointing that out on a year old comment like the true lore master you are
@@creativenickname1
Wait I just got a notification there are people commenting on this thing? lol
@@koenyboy500 opinionated claim
couldn't the ancestor just have gone senile with age or broken his back horseriding like every other nobleman too rich for his own good? did it HAVE to be parties involving eldritch monsters tainted blood and eldritcher abominations? why do i always get stuck with either a grand destiny or an ancient family curse?
Look on the bright side, he pretty much left you as the sole inheritor of the Estate, including a brothel. Aka, he gifted you Bitches.
The dude managed to beat a vampire, at night, armed only with a knife, the RNG gods must have been in his favor.
@T. O. don't forget he's got all the ancestor trinkets and this was before ripostes got nerfed 😂
My theory is that everyone at the party who drank the wine got 100% stress. When tested they got the affliction Rapturous. The Ancestor got Focused. With his knowledge it was an over powered Focused mind you.
Now thats a plottwist
"Tempting Goblet" but to a bunch of fat rich people instead of hardened adventurers
@@thebighurt2495 If that were the case, then each attack of the tempting goblet would give you crimson curse. Imagine that? : )
@@YukoValis *shudders*
I have to say, I just saw the most horrible thing in the darkest dungeon, the ancestor's ass crack!
"The mind cannot hope to withstand such an assault."
+SuperKratosgamer Underrated
The thing that's so interesting is when the ancestor "understood the terrible truth of the world", he got something that is a mix between Affliction and Virtue, a shinning Iron Crown.
I'd like to point out the Ancestor is the most terrifying thing in these scenes. For starters, this random lady walks down the hall whom the ancestor SUSPECTS, is a bad person. His first thought? To murder her. Secondly, if you look at the ancestor after he kills the countess, you see no visible wounds on him, which means he fought the count with what could be considered a butter knife and won WITHOUT A SCRATCH. Thirdly, even after the count turned into a weremosquito or whatever, he still decided "Hey, let's put this ladies blood in this wine!" and even after the wine was served and all the guests turned into weremosquitos you can still see at the ending scene that the ancestor is again, without harm. Which either means he somehow fought every guest there and won without taking a hit, or somehow was ignored by everyone.
In conclusion: Thank god the Ancestor is no longer alive, he would be by far the hardest boss to beat in this game.
Haha, yeah lets say that
Now I wish there was a mod with prime Ancestor as a boss
how insane is this?
ancestor notices a guest is actually a monster in human flesh, thinks 'you know what would be awesome? if i turned this game of cat and mouse on its head.'
he kills her and thinks 'you know what would be even more awesome? if i spiked everyones drinks with monster blood. and oh yeah, ill have a cup for myself as well'
like, the fucking vampire is the least terrifying thing in this clip
What makes her terrifying is that we never truly know who or what she actually was, much less what she might have been planning, if anything at all.
We see that the Ancestor referred to her as "A bewitching predator" and that the moon revealed "her in human desires" but we do know that madness runs in the family for the Ancestor, plus he himself admits that he was "driven mad by cloying vulgarity" and that he willingly let the Baron torture and kill people in his home because he didn't want to seem like a hypocrite. His first thought upon seeing her is also to kill her, so we have no idea of the true extent of just what happened there.
Was the Countess truly an evil monster at the time? Was she truly killed and then resurrected or did she play along and let him infect everyone with her blood? Was it even her blood that caused this and not the house vintage? How come she appears first as this human lady but turns into a gargantuan monster by the time the heir arrives? Why is it that if she is the only queen of this insect plague, she gives officer positions to particularly deranged people?
So many questions and so much lore to theorise about, but ultimately we cannot draw absolute conclusions. There are just enough stray strands to say "Hmmm...but maybe not." to make it seem vague, unfocused and much scarier than it ever could be if they made a clear declaration of just how powerful any one character is.
Have you noticed the halo above his head? In game, this form represents some kind of affliction, but the color is white like one of the virtues. So in his eyes this madness was something favorable
Oh you're right! Going virtuous was only a clean circle, becoming Afflicted has the strikes in the arc. Maybe it represents becoming attuned to cosmic enlightenment?
Dude got Virtuous but used the power for evil
What's kinda terrifying is that the Countess doesn't start out as that horrifying monster we encounter: She was able to take a human form, as we see here, but while the ancestor defeated her, he didn't kill her. After all, he didn't stake her through the heart, and her blood clearly didn't coagulate. But time passed, her servants brought her more and more blood, and she changed from a mere vampire to a kind of uber-vamp.
i mean, was she a vampire all along? Or was the ancestor insane and did a ritual that turned her into a monster?
@@Emanuelmartins69 she was always a vampire, silly
I still think that the actual narrator is a god. Well, at least it's surely how god would have sound like.
Werebereus Why not both???
He has an Audio reading H.P lovecraft books its pretty amazing.
Where. Where can I find this?
Just search Wayne june H.P lovecraft on youtube
I imagine listening to a conversation between Wayne June (the narrator for DD) and Morgan Freeman would be among the most epic experiences one could ever witness
So... drinking the blood of an ancient evil monster can either turn you into a monster as well, or it can give you cosmic knowledge that which no mortal should have the burden of carrying?
borderlands10 This is pretty late, but the ancestor said he only had a single drop of the wine that gave him the knowledge of the horrors below. He basically drank 1/1000 of the effect while the other nobles just chugged it all down and turned into mosquito like monsters.
@@Evan-vx1ys: A month isn't very late, either way that clears things up a bit.
@@borderlands10 I’ll show you what *is* late, though
@@paxtonl1330 back at ya, a month after :)
@@rottenpizza7403 hi
And now we know why the Ancestor's Vintage staves off the thirst...
In the court of the Crimson Kiiing~
you mean
CRIMSON EMPEROR
@@Darkros123 You mean Ram Abbalah
We just gonna overlook how this man was gonna indulge in some casual murder in the middle of hosting a party before she turned out to be a monster?
The Ancestor has committed so MANY atrocities it's actually easy to lose track. Murder? That's the least of his crimes. Calling him a murderer is like calling a tornado a breeze. It's not overlooked... it's eclipsed by all the other bullshit he's done. You're worried about a crime he almost committed. Who gives a shit. That's nothing. Maybe if someone else had done it, that would be of note, but THIS ASSHOLE is special. He goes above and beyond ordinary evil. What about the time he chained a young girl to a statue and pushed her into the ocean so she could drown to death AND fish monsters could transform her into their queen fish monster? What about the time he created deformed pig people with dark magic and then dumped them all into a sewer? What about the time he hired mercenaries to kill large amounts of the local populace because they dared complain about all THE DARK MAGIC he was plaguing them with? And that's just the tip of the iceberg. You're worried about the time he almost killed a lady? One lady? Who was a monster and deserved it? That wasn't even the fucked up part! He used her blood to make wine that turned all his guests into vampires! For fun! Where is your head at??
Pretty sure the reason he wanted to murder her was because he sensed that she was a monster
@@rymaxrules6416 His intuition told him she's bad news, and "driven half mad by the vulgarity" he chose to get rid of her himself. Thats when he discovered the truth
oh so THAT is where the Bone Courtier gets the wine!
HOLY FUCK SHIT
Mmm... imported
Yeah guys lets serve the blood of an ancient eldritch horror from the the deepest part of thr abyss as wine. Nothing can go wrong.
*When the makeup comes off*
Lol,the Ancestor is just a fountain of good ideas that definitely dont backfire in a spectacular way EVERY SINGLE TIME XD.
"... come to drink the tainted blood...." ... ehhh oh fuck there was something else ehh... oh right ".. of the Darkest Dungeon!"
Pause for... effect!
So basically, it's like vampires, but replace all the bat imagery with mosquitoes, fleas, ticks, and spiders.
To be fair, there is only one sub species of bat that drinks blood, while there are multiple species of bugs that drink blood.
Better love story than Twilight.
And with more interesting vampires.
Let this be a lesson learned.
No matter how fiendish a man may be, he is but a mortal; forever unable to match the vileness of a real monst- oh for fucks sake!
He knew she was a threat because she has eyes
Normal people:"Oh my god,a vampire".
Ancestor:"lol,serve that shit to the guests"
a pity they didn't reached the goal in KS for cinematics of each boss and some others things ,things one looks amazing!!
Maybe we’ll get them in the second game
@@Klavin almost certainly we will they have a proper budget this time around
WAIT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A THING? I’m genuinely mad that that didn’t happen, they would have been so unbelievably badass
LOVE the writing of this game
I love how the voice actor absolutely eats the mic whenever he says "darkest dungeon"
Does no one find it weird that the Ancestor has a more mordern hairstyle (no wig) when compared to all the other nobles?
Yepitzme
He probably is in good health compared to the rest of the Court.
He is mocking them in a way. You have to powder up your wigs, but i'm the big wig here.
the writing is phenomenal. HPL would be proud.
Not enough racism tbh
@@BringOnTheWall or magenta
@@BringOnTheWall we need more racism
0:56
Gibbous moon is decidedly ungibbous.
1:50 = ancestory's booty is what the depths of the darkest dungeon comes to this world for.
Why'd he have to be naked in his revelation vision thing?
To make his revelation extra shocking. You go all "Ohh so this is how it all started... AHHH THE ANCESTOR'S BUTT!"
It was to symbolise how feeble and powerless the Ancestor was compared to the Heart, to strip him down to his core. To show him the deep, unsettling truth of existence itself, back where man was nothing but a simple, sentient being.
"Fragile, like a robin's egg."
yes and to see his butt too
@@MiniBahamut "What are you doing?" "The obligatory butt shot!"
well. In the glimpse of truth, humans will only be thinking about who to fuck over and completely miss the cosmic meaning in this reality.
THAT, is why. He laid their morals bare. That, is why he gave them the blood of the Countess. So they could feast upon their own degeneracy
"I never expected that drinking the blood of an eldritch horror would have undesired consequences"
1:45 - Naked Wayne. Do not thanks.
Thanks.
Well I thought he was wearing a tan suit
The countess is kinda hot, when she's not a horrible monster of course
Oh baby oh yeah oh that feels good OH MY GOD SHE TURNED INTO A HUGE INSECT ABOMINATION
THAT'S MY FETISH! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Somebody call Rachnera
Methinks that's kinda the point
The countess is kinda hot even while a terrible monster
Only if we could recruit the ancestor, he would be the strongest character, since he defeated the countess with just a knife....
A reconstruction of the Ancestor made by other “Fallen God” but that wants to get rid of what the Original ended up causing... It sounds Interesting
big deal, I defeated the countess with just a knife before they nerfed riposte in Colors of madness. send some highwaymen in and you'll see just how much prodigious size fails to dissuade the sharpened blade
eausterberry He did it alone though
Can we just appreciate the fact that this man just stabbed an eldritch mosquito goddess to death with a knife?
Anyone noticed how the Countess is the only person in the entire game with eyes?
This is the best love letter to Lovecraft.
In those pre-Koveed years my home was a hive of unbridled hedonism, a roiling apiary where instinct and impulse were indulged with wild abandon.
Also, good lord, the Ancestor is just the worse. Like, he invites a bunch of asshole nobles to his home, decides to kill one of them for no discernible reason (though that reason quickly becomes “self-defence”). Then, for yet another unknown reason, he drains the Countess’ blood and gives it to the other asshole nobles as wine.
Furthermore, this is before he got into his whole “evil sorcerer” schtick. This wasn’t for some ritual, he did all of this purely because the mood struck him.
so after drinking the blood, all the guests transformed into monsters but the ancestor rolled a virtue so he didn't transform.
Can you imagine The Ancestor on House of Cards? O.O terrifying.
First rule of blood homeopathic: Don't drink the blood from demon, beast or eldrich being
Darkest Dungeon in a nutshell: God damnit Grandpa
I feel like the Ancestor scores high on his SAT tests.
Isn't this a big retcon? Originally, the Ancestor was already old and grey-haired when he first learned about the heart of darkness. The narration says he found out through old writings in his bookshelf.
Why would he wait and do nothing for several decades after this revelation?
Well, it did said it was just an hallucination, so that may prompt him to investigate more about the dark arts and stuff like that.
He learned that the heart of darkness existed, but A: he needed the resources and manpower to uncover it, B: he needed to learn the dark arts in order to be able to access and awaken it, and C: he needed to keep it safe after he awakened. He's crazy, but not dumb, and being able to understand this cosmic entity before poking it with a stick would explain why it took so long, especially since he needed to find some long forgotten sacred texts to understand it.
yeah as the comment before explains this is only the catalyst that began his descent into cosmic horror and madness
so that's why the ancestor turned evil right? because he drank a tiny amount he didn't get all fucked over and became "evil"
No, I think he'd been evil for a while. I mean, he _did_ plan to kill this woman for shits and giggles even before he knew what she was, and then (for no apparent reason) decided to mix/bottle her blood as wine and serve it to his guests. That's a pretty fucked up thing to do.
In short, he was already one sick puppy. All this event appeared to do was prompt him to look into what was underneath the manor.
I suspect that the countess might have been a previous servant of the heart of darkness, since she was the source of the crimson curse, The ancestor did not know this of course and just saw a political and slightly off in retroprospect threat in the countess and just barely managed to incapaticate it. with the ancestor being in his younger less experienced with fucked up shit might he have intended to blackmail the nobility by feeding them the countess's blood wine but did not anticipate them going utter batshit, then due to him ingesting a single drop of the blood, he saw the truth and hence started his mad dive to the darkest dungeon
Speculating here; whatever way she came upon that power, perhaps she had ties to the "singularly striking young woman" who apparently knew of the horror beneath the manor, and would later on become the Hag. This is probably entering fanfiction territory, but perhaps the two were related and came upon a sample of the Heart of Darkness. But while the Countess drank of it without abandon, her friend/relative wanted to know more about the stuff and decided to work with the Ancestor to get a better idea of what they were dealing with.
+Joep Van Melick Well, the game draws a lot of lore from Lovecraft, and Lovecraft got his stuff from occultism and basic science, sooo...
The Blood being ingested is perhaps not just the blood of the Countess; it would have to be mixed for it to pass as wine. Even if it's not, it's likely to be a potent hallucinogen. And alkaloids and other drugs have been used to get visions since time immemorial, so there's a good chance it was the Blood that got him started on his quest. It's pretty accurate, too: one of the noted effects of drugs (heroin or crack, I forget which) is that the nerves on the skin tingle, making it feel like there are bugs crawling underneath, which then leads patients to scratch themselves raw, to the point of bleeding. The nobles here turned on themselves, remember, not each other. They're chewing their own arms off.
However, the opening of the game implies he'd gotten tired of conventional extravagance and then started experimenting. He had a broad, broad taste in magic, ranging from demon summoning into pigs to necromancy to more hallucinogenic vision drugs.
The whole Courtyard storyline seems to paint the Ancestor as less of a Lovecraft character and more of a Marquis de Sade type. By the time the Countess came around, he was already getting tired of the usual thrills, and had turned to murder and such for his buzz. Not only that, but he was *surrounded* by people who felt the same way. What makes the Ancestor different is that he ended up finding something else to get his rocks off: that magic and that portal. Keep in mind, he got tired of demonic magic in the end, too.
He was evil before the Countess came around, and so were the other nobles. Possibly he was already experimenting with magic by then. But the Countess set him on the path to finding the portal, that is definitely true. Possibly the reason he was different was because he was tampering with magic already at that point, or the mansion itself was already exerting some influence on him, making him less susceptible to the cannibalism reflex and more open to the vision side of it.
+Boah-Noah I'd suggest that the Countess is exactly as she appears to be: A parasite, there to drink the blood of the star-spawn's errant flesh that is humanity. It would explain the motif of the bloodsuckers as ticks and mosquitoes, while the Crimson Curse would be their way of reproducing like a virus, taking the flesh that is humanity and twisting it to fit their form. It would explain why the gentry began devouring themselves as the urge to devour humanity took over while it gave the Ancestor a quick glimpse of outside truth before he decided to become one with the Heart of Darkness.
I like how he managed to beat her in a 1 to 1 battle.
She was overconfident... get it?
He just stubbed her before her metamorphosis
Well she did survive.
So in short the crimson curse infects your mind and body to bloodlet and waste for the heart to feast. I wonder how it originated because countess was patient x and we don't know much about her
Such a good Minecraft DLC
Nah dude, this is like a whole new game, let’s call it hmmm... Minecraft Story Mode
oh god imagine dan tdm playing this dlc an youtube
The Countess has an interesting design choice. Every single character in the game has their eyes obscured by shadow, except for her, which are an unsettling shade of deep red. The eyes are the windows to the soul, so having one’s eye shrouded is to obscure the soul, but to have them as pure red is to show that this person is proudly inhuman.
1:48 the ancestor might have been a horrible monster but he sure had them buns
APPEALS TO THE MALE FANTASY
Watching it the 3rd time realizing he's naked when he's staring down the revelation he saw in the blood
Shes kind of hot
Until she's not.
This thread is pure poetry
Just imagine the S U C C
@@NIHIL_EGO guess that...sucks hehe
@@B-Man-69 isn't she more of a mosquito though? Bugs aren't usually a fun kink
She violated the NAP
Strong Back Recreational nukes when?
Strong Back But what if the child consents tho
Uncle Corny Sell meth to kindergartners to buy recreational child soliders to murder your neighbor because leaves from his tree landed on your yard violating the nap.
In those younger years, my home was a hive of unbridled hedonism.
A roiling apiary, where instinct and impulse were indulged with wild abandon.
A bewitching predator, slipped in amidst the swarm of tittering sycophants.
Though outwardly urbane, I could sense in her a mocking thirst.
Driven half mad by cloying vulgarity,
I plotted to rid myself of this lurking threat in a grand display of sadistic sport.
But as the moment of murder drew nigh, the gibbous moon revealed her inhuman desires in all their stultifying hideousness.
Mercifully the morbid encounter resolved itself in my favor.
And I set to work pursuing degeneracy, in its most decadent forms.
The air pulsed with anticipation, as I revealed the unnatural terroir of the house vintage.
But my exultation was cut short, as the attending gentry turned upon themselves in an orgy of indescribable frenzy.
A single drop of that forbidden tannin gifted me with a dizzying glimpse of the hibernating horror beneath my feet and in that moment,
I understood the terrible truth of the world.
I stood reborn, molted by newfound knowledge.
My head throbbing to the growing whine of winged vermin come to drink the tainted blood...
Of the Darkest Dungeon.
Typing this out just because I want to see how many words I could learn from this cutscene.
i thought he was gonna do good this time and tried to save the party but it failed but nope. he caused it yet again
I would like to point out a small detail I just thought about.
The first time you attempt the Viscount mission, the ancestor says that they discarded the idea of eating the composting refuse because it was "decidedly unhealthy". However, literally everyone at his party sees nothing wrong with drinking an eldritch mosquito's blood. You'd think that drinking any blood would be more unhealthy than a bit of rotting food, but I guess I'm not rich enough to understand.
EpicBananaMan 777 They thought it was just red wine
@@awesomepocalypse3203 But he said "I revealed the unnatural terroir of the house vintage", which means he told them where he got the wine
Well it seems like he revealed this fact after they had started drinking
It did say his exaltation was cut short as the guests ate themselves
@@epicbananaman7776 Terroir in this sentence might mean few things. He might had said that he put some blood in it or that he had revealed its contents fully. It is not possible to say the exact extent of what he had meant.
I'd play a spinoff dedicated to the Ancestors story
Up untill now, I am still not sure to the bone if Shiki or Darkest Dungeon has the most mindfucked, straightforwardly merciless story of all, but the urge to choose DD as the most terrifying game yet having the most beautiful narration is drawing me close intensly.
Yup.
I believe I have a feeling that the crimson curse that the countess carries might just be the blood of The heart of darkness itself and that the countess is full of the hearts blood and that the the crimson curse is self terminating, because the countess actually dosent infect somebody on the scale the nobles were infected and she isn't so powerful and fit when the ancestor was alive. And she's depressed quite rapidly since she's lost almost all the hearts blood and that the blood gives visions to certain people of the heart of darkness and it also may be a lure of sorts to draw certain people to the heart of darkness
Welcome home, good hunter...
Awesome story, most disappointing DLC I've ever purchased. I was hoping for something interesting and challenging, and instead I got something frustratingly tedious. Or to put it another way...
Despite the grandeur of the malignant tales, this... Haphazard addition gave promise of, it was a grievous lapse in better judgement. In my careless anticipation of a greater, more profound encapsulation of distilled escapism, and a lust for the dangerous and disturbing, I instead laid witness to a miserable quarry of fruitless toil, and agonizing perpetuity. My greatest folly, and a wasteful drain of my already dwindling coffers.
Holy fuck are you the script writter or what? I could read all that in Wayne June's voice perfectly.
I wish everyone delivered their distaste in such a grand voluble and viscously descriptive way.
The dwindling coffers got me
Most sophisticated review ever. And I also disliked this DLC, it's way too intrusive. Would only recommend for people who have beaten the base game to hell and back (literally, heh) and even then it's still kind of a slog.
@@CidGuerreiro1234 Now that I've gotten into modding, I kind of have to go through it at some point. I can still test the court trinkets for my mod without CC enabled, but I really should go through with it.
This DLC's perfect to the Duchess, since she is the sworn enemy of the Countess
You know what makes this scene unsettling? The fact that everyone has eyebrows now.
The Ancestor looked pretty dashing in his younger years, let's not prevaricate about the bush.
Most men; "Hey there gorgeous, how you doin'?"
The Ancestor: "I'm going to use your cursed blood to fuck over my guests by damning them for eternity for shits n' giggles."
Still not as bad as handing that poor waif over to the fish people.
_the Crimson Court met its Final Demise, at the hands of one of the Vanir.. who had first sealed them beneath, knowing they were dangerous monsters.._
Bro i almost don't want to play with the crimson court DLC because the narration for the first mission drives me crazy
I'm curious to know what the ancestor expected to happen from drinking eldritch demon blood? Did he think they would all just gain super powers or something? In a way I suppose they did...
You gotta understand that the nobles deserved it. They allowed themselves to lose all sense of decency, they turned suffering into sport and cruelty into merriment, all while leeching off of the ancestors fortunes, keeping him in a cycle of social pressure. Nobody can blame him for wanting to stick it to them. If he had known what was going to happen then I doubt he would have done it, for remember, he stopped himself from drinking the moment he saw them turn - that shows he did not know. Still a sick sense of humor, but in this case, everyone are assholes.
that moment when u realise the symbol isnt a torch but a mosquito with blood.
In style, Marie Antoinette is more than Countess Bathory. I would call the DLC Queen Toinette's Revenge. When he killed her in this accursed place and gave everyone to drink this blood in which there were memories of the Terror of 1794, all those who drank the blood became the very beasts that began a real feast of madness. =)