One early Saturday morning in the spring of 1997, I treated myself to an LIRR ride from Penn Station to Long Beach. I thought I'd died and gone to HEAVEN, the trip was so beautiful. The return trip, which you captured just as BEAUTIFULLY here, was nearly as memorable. Thank you, DJ, for reminding me of it in this post.
I couldn't agree with you more but for me it was Grand Central Terminal having community from Rye New York for over 30 years. Prior to Jacqueline Onassis being instrumental in its revitalization I remember when it revitalization I remember when it was a pit.
@@SicilianStealth Dude I know that. I recently visited the Moynihan Hall and I admit, they did a somewhat decent job at replicating the original. Though not nearly as magnificent, it’s still a massive improvement. I heard they’re now removing those beam columns on the ceiling. About time. Now if only old Port Authority Bus Terminal could get the same treatment.
Look almost the same as 30 years ago, I would take a round trip from Long Beach to Lynbrook for $2.50 to eat at White Castle for about $7 pretty good value for $10. Nice to see It's still there on the left @ 16:41 you can see the top of the building
What equipment do you use to film it? Footage is so crispy P.s: sad to see the metro north doesn't get as much love with these kind of videos, difficult to find content.
Everyone is all over the LIRR cock that yes its true, you don't see many videos like this. I am an engineer for MNR. I did post a video a few weeks back from the back cab of an m3 on the Harlem line. Only a few mins long
Actually there's plenty of footage with Metro North. Having commuted from Rye to Grand Central Terminal over a 30-year period there's plenty of Metro-North videos.
In cab signals. In most railroad systems there is an alarm in the cab that goes off periodically that the engineer/motorman must answer within a certain timeframe or the train will automatically stop, that is to make sure the engineer/motorman is awake and paying attention.
I ride the Long Beach branch always I never seen East rockaway and center ace station so busy as there so close together, I guess during rush hour it’s like this.
I remember growing up living in Laurelton/Rosedale. Riding the LIRR and would constantly see 75-80mph. Now when I come back to visit and ride, its painfully slower.. What gives?
I don’t have any experience on the LIRR but my guess would be deferred maintenance means that the trains must run slower to meet the same/higher safety requirements
I rode the Ronkonkoma to Penn line back in 2016 last time I was in NY and that train was hitting 80mph which is the max authorized speed these days even though LIRR train and track design speed is 100mph.
Some of those stations were built 100+ years ago when LIRR trains weren't running 10-12 cars during peak time. LIRR can run up to 12 cars in the consist, the most of any commuter railroad I believe and longer than the max length on a subway train.
Next time I'm on the island, I want to try one of the double-decker trains. Which branches do they run on, and do they do so at all times of the day, and on all days?
On diesel lines, so any train to Long Island City, Greenport Shuttle, Montauk, the diesel section of Port Jefferson, but some trains run to Penn Station with C3s in the morning.
I've noticed that sometimes the third rail is on the right, while other times it runs on the left of the train. Does the conductor have to "do" anything to switch the feet over, or do all trains have them on both sides all the time?
No the trains have 3rd rail pick-up shoes on both sides and neither the conductor nor the engineer need to do anything about that. This older M3 model EMU does not transfer power between cars however, so you notice the HVAC cuts out periodically (the lights in the car do too but not captured on video) as this front car goes over a gap in third rail , and cuts back in when a shoe contacts it again.
Enjoyed both versions of this run - have to note how muted the horn is by comparison to most US railroad administrations, is that a local noise pollution by-law? Sad to see the Montauk Cut-off laid low like that but amused to see how often you catch up with the HP Av/LIC train - isn't the loco on the third rail by this point? \m/
In most countries trains don't sound the horn nearly as much as the US, probably they adapt the horn a bit in New York due to the reality of people actually having to live near the trains 😉
There are signals on the Track - you just don't see them, because they are using ATC. This boxed you see between the track rails from time to time: That are the signal boxed, that send the signal into the cabin.
Signal is in the operators cab. It's not like the subway where there is a trackside signal every 1000ft because the subway is still running some rolling stock that is over 50 years old.
Excellent video, fantastic detail. Tell me, since I'm originally from the West coast, what are those bell sounds I am hearing frequently, that sound like telephone rings?
@@thomasdarby6084 Yes, basically all trains in the civilized world have that, both passenger and freight. If the engineer fails to respond to the alarm within a certain amount of time the train automatically stops.
It's legal if you're filming it for personal use, which I'm pretty sure includes this, anything else you need a permit. But nonetheless all Path trains are the PA5s which give no accessto the front window because the engineer closes the door blocking it.
I have been a rail fan my entire life. I do pity anyone who has to commute using the LIRR. I can’t imagine wasting 2 and 3 hours of my day, 5 days per week for 40 years. That’s time one can never get back no matter how anyone rationalizes it.
It is astounding that this bridge is still 1 track. And the going is walking speed until the 2nd track on land is reached. Little service increase is possible; this is a bottleneck. To add insult to insult, the speed limit appears to be 45mph, when it could be higher.
You could get around just as fast, perhaps faster, on a train one hundred years ago. Today's New York metro mass transit is a huge disappointment and clearly a result of lack of investment.
At least New York has very good public transportation. Yes I say very good because I have plenty of experience (as a frequent visitor) and I come from a place on the West coast that doesn't have that. Believe me, what you have in NY is light years better than a fragmented or non-existing public transportation system.
@AriesAreTheBest Yeah I totally believe you. My perspective is that a real, active public transportation infrastructure is better than none. Corruption is everywhere, unfortunately. I just hope NYC area can recover from all this recent craziness, including the public transportation system. Selfishly, I'd like to be able to continue visiting again. As things are now, I have no plans to go back. And honestly I miss it.
You all are plain wrong. Yes, there maybe have been some express trains on that branch from Long Island to Penn Station. But the nature of the line has changed: in the 1900s the line was made so that the New Yorkers could travel to a day at the beach. Nowadays it's a commuter train. And for a commuter train not the speed is important, but how many services they have. More services on the line means less speed, because you don't want a train to catch up to the train ahead.
@AriesAreTheBest Back in the day, you hopped the turnstile or pulled it backward and slipped past it. The old wooden ones, I was too small to hop so I went under those, lol. And this when fares were 35 cents.
They cant since the LB branch is electrified so the diesel engines are not necessary. And remember 2012 had hurricane Sandy which absolutely wrecked Long Beach so it likey damaged the third rail, therefore requiring the usage of diesel engines. I lived in LB at the time of hurricane sandy and my family and I had to leave to brooklyn since it was so bad. It was quite a while until we were able to go back.
Question; both your video and another one by Retired Railfan ua-cam.com/video/K48RNxEprnU/v-deo.html show trains leaving Long beach but on what appear to be DIFFERENT tracks and signals. Whats up with this? Thanks! 🙂
It's a commuter train. Why should it go much faster than 60 to 70 miles? The train has to stop all three minutes and in 11:00 he already overshoots a platform, because he's too fast :D
@@beelineenthusiast What i'm trying to say that it's not safe to run 3rd rail in the open space! Wondering how many humans and animals dying because of it :)
So great to see videos from 2019 and look into normal faces! Is it necessary to wear a mask in the US in all transit systems like it is here in Germany since April? If you do not, you must pay like you have no ticket for the trip...
It looks much slower then it is, it only takes around 40 mins to get to pen station, this line especially the stops are close so they don't got as fast but on others there faster, but I do agree we have slow trains.
My father used to work for the LIR…back in the 60’s.. and..early 80’s….I miss my dad so much it hurts everyday 💙💙💙💙💙😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💙💙💙💙💙💙😭😭😭😭😭
Been on this train thousands of times. In fact, I will be on it in about 40 minutes, front car. :)
One early Saturday morning in the spring of 1997, I treated myself to an LIRR ride from Penn Station to Long Beach. I thought I'd died and gone to HEAVEN, the trip was so beautiful. The return trip, which you captured just as BEAUTIFULLY here, was nearly as memorable. Thank you, DJ, for reminding me of it in this post.
Just imagine arriving at the original Penn Station? That would be glorious.
That is the original penn station. It has not changed.
@@derekrohan9619 Wrong. The original station got demolished and now we're just left with a crummy underground station where the ceiling is too low.
I couldn't agree with you more but for me it was Grand Central Terminal having community from Rye New York for over 30 years. Prior to Jacqueline Onassis being instrumental in its revitalization I remember when it revitalization I remember when it was a pit.
@@armorpro573 Although I haven't been to it yet and I'm making a point too. The new station is in the old post office across the street.
@@SicilianStealth Dude I know that. I recently visited the Moynihan Hall and I admit, they did a somewhat decent job at replicating the original. Though not nearly as magnificent, it’s still a massive improvement. I heard they’re now removing those beam columns on the ceiling. About time. Now if only old Port Authority Bus Terminal could get the same treatment.
The key to successful videos...front unobstructed view💯
Look almost the same as 30 years ago, I would take a round trip from Long Beach to Lynbrook for $2.50 to eat at White Castle for about $7 pretty good value for $10. Nice to see It's still there on the left @ 16:41 you can see the top of the building
2:00 - 4:30 awesome view!
Can't believe I just watched the entire video. At work.. at 9am.. thanks!
Hope you enjoyed it! :D
Really enjoyed your video! Wish Oklahoma had subways to ride!
Great work and quality video, I was the operator at Lead for over 18 years, beautiful views, regards to Neville, thanks, Guy 3rd. trick
Being from Manhattan and The Bronx, I've always wondered taking the LIRR to Long Beach and it looks cool!
This is making me homesick lol. Going from Valley Stream and going through Queens..
I used to take that train from Long Beach to the city with my grandfather when I was a kid ( in the 1960s )
What equipment do you use to film it? Footage is so crispy
P.s: sad to see the metro north doesn't get as much love with these kind of videos, difficult to find content.
Everyone is all over the LIRR cock that yes its true, you don't see many videos like this. I am an engineer for MNR. I did post a video a few weeks back from the back cab of an m3 on the Harlem line. Only a few mins long
ok
Actually there's plenty of footage with Metro North. Having commuted from Rye to Grand Central Terminal over a 30-year period there's plenty of Metro-North videos.
Very great video hope more to come just like this from long Island railroad on other lines!!! Thanks DJH!
Ahh used to take this train everyday when I lived in Island Park and worked in NYC...
This must be the official LIRR train that crossed the highway because it is outside of New York. : )
Excellent video, would like to see the full Montauk Branch ride. Never been out to the Hampton's. Thanks for the ride along. 😁👍
I'm watching this from England. Such a great ride - wish I was on it! Splendid video, thanks.
if you ever visit NYC consider taking a trip for the day on the LIRR either to Long Beach or Montauk
The LIRR M3 has been in reserve status for a while and will likely never run again, so I am told by an insider.
I hope they do a final farewell trip like they did for the r42.
My line👍😎
wow no way I remember you from 9th grade
I've taken the lirr many times,what's the purpose of the ringing bell between stations,does anyone know?
Do one from Jamaica to Montauk
Thanks. Wasn’t expecting such a chilled and relaxing film. Was it shot early morning? Informative conductor too. Great ride
Glad you enjoyed! Yes, this was taken relatively early in the morning.
uhhh car at 5:43 isn't where he is supposed to be....
Loved this video alot thanks for doing the video keep the videos coming
@36:17 those buildings on the left (the grey and white ones) I live there and see these trains everyday
I am new to watching LIRR and Metro North videos. What do the bells between stations signify?
In cab signals. In most railroad systems there is an alarm in the cab that goes off periodically that the engineer/motorman must answer within a certain timeframe or the train will automatically stop, that is to make sure the engineer/motorman is awake and paying attention.
Well done and fun. Thank you
I ride the Long Beach branch always I never seen East rockaway and center ace station so busy as there so close together, I guess during rush hour it’s like this.
Enjoyed the video. Great rice.
There are some large gaps in the 3rd Rail in various places. I’m surprised trains don’t get gapped.
Nice video!!
I remember growing up living in Laurelton/Rosedale. Riding the LIRR and would constantly see 75-80mph. Now when I come back to visit and ride, its painfully slower.. What gives?
I don’t have any experience on the LIRR but my guess would be deferred maintenance means that the trains must run slower to meet the same/higher safety requirements
Max speed on the Long Beach branch is 60MPH. Atlantic by Rosedale/Laurelton is still 80MPH.
So yeah.
It's not always slow. It's actually been going faster ever since they did maintenance and upgrading of signals
I rode the Ronkonkoma to Penn line back in 2016 last time I was in NY and that train was hitting 80mph which is the max authorized speed these days even though LIRR train and track design speed is 100mph.
8:36 an old air raid siren on the left.
Thanks for the video!
When the train stops and some cars are off the platform, what happens to the people who go in those cars and want to get off at that station?
They can just walk up to the cars that are in the station which is pretty common
Some of those stations were built 100+ years ago when LIRR trains weren't running 10-12 cars during peak time. LIRR can run up to 12 cars in the consist, the most of any commuter railroad I believe and longer than the max length on a subway train.
That Chevy at Island Park {5:40) is on the wrong side of the crossing-gate. Eek!
Excellent video!
Looks like it passed an Amtrak train along the way. How did Amtrak get on Long Island? I'm trying to figure out that route!
On the approach to Penn, the LIRR joins up with the NEC and they share tracks into the tunnels.
When you put automatic midroll ads on your video but they only put two of them right at the end...
5:44
In front of the barriers
Next time I'm on the island, I want to try one of the double-decker trains. Which branches do they run on, and do they do so at all times of the day, and on all days?
On diesel lines, so any train to Long Island City, Greenport Shuttle, Montauk, the diesel section of Port Jefferson, but some trains run to Penn Station with C3s in the morning.
@@AVeryRandomPerson Thanks.
Oyster Bay Branch
the ride out to Montauk has the best scenery on the ride, but Greenport has the most to do right by the station
Great ride!
I've noticed that sometimes the third rail is on the right, while other times it runs on the left of the train. Does the conductor have to "do" anything to switch the feet over, or do all trains have them on both sides all the time?
No the trains have 3rd rail pick-up shoes on both sides and neither the conductor nor the engineer need to do anything about that. This older M3 model EMU does not transfer power between cars however, so you notice the HVAC cuts out periodically (the lights in the car do too but not captured on video) as this front car goes over a gap in third rail , and cuts back in when a shoe contacts it again.
I always missing your videos
DJH Trains why are all your new videos premeiered
It’s a way to give people a heads up on what videos will be coming out while they upload! :D
TyType good morning
OK guys, during Minute 26, are the bells a Flag Stop request?
LIRR Has no request stops.
how come UA-cam recommended this video, its just youtube things. LOL
Enjoyed both versions of this run - have to note how muted the horn is by comparison to most US railroad administrations, is that a local noise pollution by-law? Sad to see the Montauk Cut-off laid low like that but amused to see how often you catch up with the HP Av/LIC train - isn't the loco on the third rail by this point? \m/
many communities throughout greater Montreal prohibit whistling..mind you, trains still gong
In most countries trains don't sound the horn nearly as much as the US, probably they adapt the horn a bit in New York due to the reality of people actually having to live near the trains 😉
whats the intro song name, its pretty catchy
Saw my home station 🙂
Skyline comes into view at 43:29
👍🏼
Just curious how do they control the trains with so few signals?
There are signals on the Track - you just don't see them, because they are using ATC. This boxed you see between the track rails from time to time: That are the signal boxed, that send the signal into the cabin.
They use Cab Signalling on the LIRR.
Signal is in the operators cab. It's not like the subway where there is a trackside signal every 1000ft because the subway is still running some rolling stock that is over 50 years old.
Does this branch only use M3s?
@AriesAreTheBest I guess not😂🤷🏽♂️
No it uses M7s mostly
Half of this video is just the train sitting at jamaica waiting for departure clearance, do trains usually hold that long?
Its for the transfer off The double decker trains as they can't go into pen station, if you want to go further you have to switch to m3, m7
@@Chris-po9lkCorrect; the double deckers are diesel powered, as certain lines aren’t electrified yet.
Feels a bit weird to see no trap points protecting the moving bridge seen at the start
What happened, is the long Beach train late again?
Make sure to take your trash with you when you leave.
Excellent video, fantastic detail. Tell me, since I'm originally from the West coast, what are those bell sounds I am hearing frequently, that sound like telephone rings?
My guess would be a door closing signal as they ring just before the train leaves a station.
@@55metsfan No, the door closing signal is a two-tone chime. This ringing I hear is while the train is moving.
You hear that because this video was taken at the front of the train, next to the person driving. It's a signal which the driver has to acknowledge.
@@Tom_239 Thank you! It was a mystery. I suppose it keeps the engineer/driver alert.
@@thomasdarby6084 Yes, basically all trains in the civilized world have that, both passenger and freight. If the engineer fails to respond to the alarm within a certain amount of time the train automatically stops.
Can you upload the real-time Port Washington Branch video soon?
That would not be as good since the entire Port Washington branch is a no horn zone
@Railfaner 232 He already has the timelapse up, so I want to see the real-time version.
We are working on getting the Port Washington Branch Video uploaded, don’t worry!
Railfaner 232 thank the gods for that!
@@ROTE wait but I got a m3/M9/m7 horn when recording some trains at Flushing tho-
How much
Can you try the path trains?
It is illegal to film on path
@Railfaner 232 Bad PANYNJ
Renz-O ever since 9/11 it’s been illegal
It's legal if you're filming it for personal use, which I'm pretty sure includes this, anything else you need a permit. But nonetheless all Path trains are the PA5s which give no accessto the front window because the engineer closes the door blocking it.
@Renz-O It's also illegal to just have a camera out on the Path system.
I have been a rail fan my entire life. I do pity anyone who has to commute using the LIRR. I can’t imagine wasting 2 and 3 hours of my day, 5 days per week for 40 years. That’s time one can never get back no matter how anyone rationalizes it.
May I know the kind of fleet of this train?
AriesAreTheBest Thank you very much!
At about the 2:44 mark of the video. Is that an eagle I see?
It is astounding that this bridge is still 1 track. And the going is walking speed until the 2nd track on land is reached. Little service increase is possible; this is a bottleneck. To add insult to insult, the speed limit appears to be 45mph, when it could be higher.
Do port Washington
You could get around just as fast, perhaps faster, on a train one hundred years ago. Today's New York metro mass transit is a huge disappointment and clearly a result of lack of investment.
At least New York has very good public transportation. Yes I say very good because I have plenty of experience (as a frequent visitor) and I come from a place on the West coast that doesn't have that. Believe me, what you have in NY is light years better than a fragmented or non-existing public transportation system.
@AriesAreTheBest Yeah I totally believe you. My perspective is that a real, active public transportation infrastructure is better than none. Corruption is everywhere, unfortunately. I just hope NYC area can recover from all this recent craziness, including the public transportation system.
Selfishly, I'd like to be able to continue visiting again. As things are now, I have no plans to go back. And honestly I miss it.
You all are plain wrong. Yes, there maybe have been some express trains on that branch from Long Island to Penn Station.
But the nature of the line has changed: in the 1900s the line was made so that the New Yorkers could travel to a day at the beach. Nowadays it's a commuter train. And for a commuter train not the speed is important, but how many services they have. More services on the line means less speed, because you don't want a train to catch up to the train ahead.
@AriesAreTheBest Back in the day, you hopped the turnstile or pulled it backward and slipped past it. The old wooden ones, I was too small to hop so I went under those, lol. And this when fares were 35 cents.
They should send Them Diesel trains to Long beach again like they did in 2012
They cant since the LB branch is electrified so the diesel engines are not necessary. And remember 2012 had hurricane Sandy which absolutely wrecked Long Beach so it likey damaged the third rail, therefore requiring the usage of diesel engines. I lived in LB at the time of hurricane sandy and my family and I had to leave to brooklyn since it was so bad. It was quite a while until we were able to go back.
Question; both your video and another one by Retired Railfan ua-cam.com/video/K48RNxEprnU/v-deo.html show trains leaving Long beach but on what appear to be DIFFERENT tracks and signals. Whats up with this? Thanks! 🙂
why some US trains stop on station out of limits of the platform?
Some are too long
Oh it looks like a war train
Why does it go so slow?
It's a commuter train. Why should it go much faster than 60 to 70 miles? The train has to stop all three minutes and in 11:00 he already overshoots a platform, because he's too fast :D
Awesome scenery!! But so f^€kin’ SL⭕️W‼️‼️
Well at least it picked up some speed when on “land” which doesn’t really make a lot sense (to me) lol
wait the c3 cars are only cab cars Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
basically, it is subway, cause it has 3rd rail. why does it open for public access? so weird to be able to get shocked by high voltage.
That's because The L.I.R.R is a commuter railroad not a subway system
Y'know the commuter lines in NY use 3rd rail to right?
@@beelineenthusiast What i'm trying to say that it's not safe to run 3rd rail in the open space! Wondering how many humans and animals dying because of it :)
@@arishem555 oh If I came of rude I'm sorry I was just confused😋🙂
@@beelineenthusiast it's youtube, you can do whatever you want :-D
Looks like roller coaster ride at first 😅reminds me of Thomas the engine. This should be on pbs
Put the playback speed to 2x it’s better
Better hurry up with the videos. The M3's won't be around too much longer then the front window videos are gone.
DJH you have a roblox acc
Tsw anyone lol
wtf ist that platform at oceanside way too short`? half of the train doesnt fit? :D *okay, that seems to be a very common problem on this route*
There are streets at both ends that limit length of train. It can only platform 8 cars out of 10
I would say in that specific moment he was too fast and overshoot :D
does anyone else play it at 1.75 and slow down to look at graffiti?
Lol I did
Many years ago mine was there
So great to see videos from 2019 and look into normal faces!
Is it necessary to wear a mask in the US in all transit systems like it is here in Germany since April? If you do not, you must pay like you have no ticket for the trip...
Yes.
Most, if not all systems require masks.
Well, we know this wasn't this year. I don't see a single mask. Plus I see crowds of people on the platforms.
It says in the description "Taken in 2019"
Americans, we are the greatest in the world... Yet we build the slowest trains ever!!!
It looks much slower then it is, it only takes around 40 mins to get to pen station, this line especially the stops are close so they don't got as fast but on others there faster, but I do agree we have slow trains.
also these are one of the older trains now these are being replaced by m9s which are faster
now i can use my fake train cab and pretend I'm driving the train
Juyhy
Defund the MTA!
Can you please put music behind this in stead of the background noise
Why should he? 99% of the people then would dislike, because WE WANT TO HEAR THE BACKGROUND SOUND. When you want to listen to music - use spotify!
Cringey