Yamaha recently released their 2022 ATV lineup featuring the Grizzly 700 EPS, SE, and XT-R. In this video, we review prices, options, and features of the Grizzly 700!
I think you convinced me with this video. I don't need 1000 cc. Heavy weight maintenance nightmare. I need a well rounded fun machine that is reliable. Great video
Glad to hear it! Some folks want the biggest most powerful ATV they can get and that's ok.. We went through that phase too.. But balance, agility, and durability is more important once you get past the ego thing
@@DirtObseXXion, not entirely true. I grew up drag racing on sport quads, because I live where sport quads are useless I finally jumped ship after 22 years to 4x4. As a motorsport salesman I think yamaha is missing a huge market due to the Japanese stubbornness to use a 75+ HP motor. If yamaha would at least put out 75 I wouldn't have bought a 1000.
@@BertaWheet I understand some folks want them, but it's obviously not enough of a demand to interest Yamaha.. My guess is that regulations and carbon credits play a role in the decision.. If Yamaha can only produce X number of machines with existing credits, they are betting they'd sell more 700 Grizzlies than big twins.. Plus the current Grizzly costs them 0 in R&D, there's huge cost associated with developing and manufacturing an entirely new atv which is what it would be.. All they have now is an engine they could theoretically use in an 850 if it was modified.. According to Polaris, Big Bore sales, 850 and up make up the smallest segment of their ATV market.. They literally said that verbatim at the press release for their S models.
Yamaha makes great 450cc machines. That's bout the lowest size I go in utility/ trail 4wd quad myself. Plus Yamaha has best all around choices out there these days.
Really enjoyed this well balanced overview! These are excellent sport utility ATVs for sure. We have a bunch of Yamahas & Polaris ATVs. Can't go wrong w/either.
I have a blue 2018 grizzly 700 with the Fuji 708cc engine and aside from the engine, it's been a fantastic atv! The newer 686cc Kodiak my buddy has runs a smooth and quiet as a sewing machine, it's an absolute dream of an engine. With that all out of the way, I have 5,000 km on this ATV and I haul firewood and plow snow in a pretty large driveway. That ATV has been strong and very reliable. So far I've had no wheel bearing, tie rod end or any suspension part replacements. Just last week I had the CVT cover off to do an inspection while I was performing a full service and the CVT is just like new. There is no belt dust or abnormal patterns on the CVT sheaves. I've never experienced belt slip even hauling a full trailer load of firewood in high range on a dirt road. If anyone is it all hesitant about purchasing an ATV with a CVT transmission, I would say Yamaha and Suzuki are about the best out there.
Have a 2021 Grizzly se and we love it! Thing is an absolute beast in every terrain we’ve hit. The shocks and comfort of the machine is insane especially compared to my Raptor. I totally recommend this machine to everyone looking for a solid do it all quad.
I have a 2021 Grizzly and couldn't be happier, it has surprised me at every turn . I have 28" Maga Mayhems and don't use 4 wheel drive much. Had to relocate the radiator to keep the mud out of it.
How is it through water? Polaris sportsman 450 is not good, water will get it and need to drain it. Can am 570 outlander xt flys through water and mud no prob at all
I was a Polaris guy for years. Owned 6 over the course of 10 years. After the last one I had, I did extensive research on most machines. I asked tons of questions to dealers and owners and after hearing multiple times that people haven’t touched their Grizzly for repairs other than oil and spark plugs for at least 30-35,000 kms I was sold. I saw a few Grizzlies with over 50,000 kms and still running great. I went out and bought a 2019 Grizzly 700 and haven’t looked back.
I have a 2018 Viking 3 with the 686 single and was at first skeptical about buying because of the larger displacement twin cylinders in the Polaris and Honda models that made anything less than 1000 cc seem underpowered... but I was wrong. Coupled with their CVT drivetrain, Yamaha nailed the perfect mix of power, weight and durability in the ATV/UTV industry... with the battle for the best looking model or number of gadgets driving prices through the roof.
Grizzly is the best overall woods riding quad. I think the question you have to ask yourself when you buy an ORV of any kind is: " what am I ACTUALLY using this for?" Cause if you wanna race occasionally than you want a can am or polaris If you just want a dependable woods banger than the Grizzly is a go to. They have an excellent suspension because you aren't losing ride quality from excessive weight. Big vtwins are 900+ lbs wet. Thats heavy AF for a bike that has to drive over roots and washboard terrain and only has 10" travel which loses ride quality from stiff swaybars as well that are necessary to control the power those machines have
This is such a great review! I'm a Honda guy and I think the Grizzly 700 is an exceptional machine. A bigger heavier machine may be viewed by some as a net negative, unless you intent to sink your machine up to the handle bars in mud, or unless you want to drag race. For farming/ranching/trail riding/bushwhacking my Honda Rubicon in the 500 class is perfect. I agree that the Grizz 700 seems to strike the right balance between power and agility.
Love the review and can't wait until you guys take it out and make a trail review and trash it around. I'm convinced to trade in my old one and upgrade to a new one. Thank you.
love yamaha my grandpa has a grizzly 400 he bought new in 2000 use it for all farm work never broke down on us never has had any issues other then dead battery and changing the oil super reliable
Had a Grizzly 700 SE, loved everything about it except the short wheelbase. At 6’4” it always felt like I was sitting right over the rear axle. Not a good feeling on a big hill climb. Regretfully sold it for a 1000 Highlifter. Love the longer wheelbase but sure miss the confident feeling I’ll make it home. Great video and I still love the Yamahas!
Hey I'm the same height as you and used to own a grizzly 700 as well. Do the canams have longer wheelbases in general, or do you need the outlander max xt? I'm shopping around right now
The Yamaha has a 49” wheelbase and the Can-Am is 51”. I bought a Polaris which is 53” but if you’re looking at Can-Am I did drive a new XMR last weekend and the 51” wheelbase is comfortable. The 2-up can-am is I believe 8 inches longer than the single seat models and they have plenty of room but on tight trails you will have a bigger turning radius. I loved the Yamaha but just too short for my build. Hope this helps some and happy riding.
I got 2 friends with can am's and they had to start replacing stuff by the second season of riding. One has an X3 and most of the bushing's wore out. Power steering rack was clunking all over too. Stock radius arms are super thin and bend easy had to shell 600 for billet by 2nd year he had it. They dont come with any protection so you'll tear off plastic's in no time
I have the 2021 Grizz SE model, and I love it .... live in the southwest, do a lot of technical and Trail riding with it , not so much muddying .... and it has been a blast coming from a can am outlander...
I've had my most recent ATV for 2 years or so and enjoy hitting the trails with a few friends a few times a month. Everyone has their own style of riding that they enjoy, I'm glad my group just likes lugging around and enjoying the scenery. Maybe some hill climbs, a flip over or two a month, but it's fun for us. I don't think I could do the 25mph trail riding, ass in the air, tree dodging techniques enjoyed by others. And there are really none of those trails in the miles we ride here in South Central Kentucky (near home anyway)
Fellow KY boy, we were just at White Sulfur in Salt Lick Sunday.. The OHV trails in the Daniel Boone are nice, 50inch restricted so they're perfect for ATVs and never very busy..
Just bought a kodiak 700 back in june and going from my 97 timberwolf 250 it is pleanty of power for me and the ride is awsome its like driving a Tempur-pedic mattress
Awesome review !! TY .... just put a deposit on a 2022 Grizzly 700 SE ... dealer told me that if I use yamalube and yamaha filter and keep up with the maintenance as per manual .... Yamaha warranties the engine for 20 years or 160 000 km ...must register unit online and update the maintenance done with mileage etc.... but well worth it .... first time I ever heard of that ...Big bonus aswell if Yamaha stands by it which i think they will.
All good brother, appreciate you watching! Please keep the feedback coming whether or not you agree with my opinions.. It makes the channel better... At the end of the day we're all just passionate about the sport, and I can definitely respect that!
With a KFI snow plow setup my 2021 SE cost just north of $16,000 Canadian, expensive yes! That said it’s been bullet proof. Put 1000km on it with no issues at all. It’s chipped, clutched and is a absolute blast to ride. It’s plenty fast with a few modifications!
I was so satisfied with my '08 grizzly that I bought a second one in 2020 and kept the old one for my sons. The only things I changed are the tires. The zillas are great in the mud but when you hit dirt roads, they throw rocks all over the place and give a rougher ride on those 14" wheels. So I bought a set of Bighorns on 12" rims for the trail.
@@TheAnnalynn77 I went with 26" but you have to remove the backing plate behind the discs. You can probably buy some that would fit in the 12" rims but I just took them off. It rides a lot smoother now. Totally worth it.
I just put money down an a 2022 xtr . Will be in within a month . Can’t wait ! Ultimately I chose the grizzly for its unparalleled reputation for reliability. I was considering a can am 650 but I agree with this video’s evaluation of usable power and trail friendliness of the grizz . I ride wood’s motorcycles as well and there is one thing that is for sure , it’s a lot more fun to ride a “slow “ bike fast than a fast bike slow 👍🏻👍🏻 Thanks for the Awesome video and review!
We just a 2022 a couple months ago and did a review on it, got a Kinf Quad for a comparison too... Congratulations on the new wheeler! Is it your first?
Man. Great vid! I’m excited about selecting my first atv and this is definitely on the list. I’ve also been looking at the Honda foreman and rubicon. Do you have an opinion on the Hondas and how they stack up to the Yamahas? Thanks!
We just did a comparison on the Grizzly vs KingQuad. The Honda's are an entirely different flavor.. They're great for what they are, very reliable. But fun factor and ride quality isn;t the same as Yamaha.
I have a 2021 Grizzly, I couldn't imagine having more power where and how I ride. I already can't use all the power it has riding thru woods. Now on the gravel roads ya but I have no desire to drive 100 mph on a quad. I think the grizzly is pretty close to perfect the way it is, maybe some better shocks but it's still very nice.
Looking between a CanAm outlander 650 and a Grizzly 700. Both seem to be similar pricing. Any recommendations? Rode a 2018 Griz on some trails and liked it, felt light and nimble. Test rode a CanAm in a parking lot so couldn't get a good feel for it.
2019 Kodiak 700 owner. I hate cvt but Yamaha does a good job at keeping it from revving to the moon just to do anything. I just wish I could get a Honda big bore that has more than 3 gears
Change your clutch weights, you can change your engagement point. I run 18gram grizzly weights in my Kodiak for the snappiness of a grizzly, but also have a machined sheave and a sim to keep my low end torque, plus I added a heavier secondary spring for faster back shifting and an even better engine braking.
Would love to see you do a video on the Kodiak 450SE. Love the grizzlies, but out my budget. I think the kodiak 450se is the best bang for your buck for those who aren't looking to spend an absolute ton of money on their machine, but also want something of good quality and reliability out on the trail.
I'm a huge fan of the Grizzly, but just not sure there are enough differentiating features between the it and the Kodiak, especially with price overlap depending on trim levels. Great video!
The Kodiak is a more compact chasis and the motor is detuned a bit to make the throttle much less punchy.. But depending on needs the Kodiak could certainly be the better buy..
In 2016 the Kodiak started out at $6,400 the Grizzly at $9,400. But that was the new 708cc and slightly different design on the quad. I had a lot of problems with my Grizzly not so much the motor but the quad itself. So much I'm disappointed and discouraged from Yamaha. I'd never buy a new Yamaha ATV from a dealer again. I'm at that point in my life where i'm ready for a SxS. I like the Viking but not with the 686cc.
The grizzly blows the kodiak away, I have a 2021 grizzly and a 2021 kodiak. The grizzly is more stable, rides way smoother, has a bigger layout and will blow the kodiak away from a dead stop and wheelies over obstacles that the kodiak won't. Both good machines but the grizzly is more sport and its worth the extra money in my opinion 😉
I actually went into the dealership planning on a kodiak because I was trying to keep costs down. It was the wider stance that convinced me to go for the Grizz, as much as anything. Lots of people put wheel spacers on their quads to make them wider, but not many are actively trying to make them narrower.
Just got back in town from a riding weekend and seen this video so had to check it out. Awesome video as usual! Hit the nail on the head on all key points of the grizzly. What the hell is up with the yellow paint scheme? Geez.. LOL
As a Yamaha owner I have to say I love it. Everything, with one small exception. That is the high beam light on the handle bar! As soon as you put a fuel pack on or a storage pack on the light becomes worthless, and the light low beam lights just don't cut it! I would love to see Yamaha do a few things....eliminate the light on the handle bars, put better (brighter) low beams on board, or a dual HB/LB lamp in. Widen the handle bars to accommodate some light pods! That would be a simple fix to make this machine PERFECT! It's just to simple to overlook. Anyone in on agreeing with this?
Yeah not a fan of the light placement on the latest model , i quite often have both racks loaded up so would be of no use . If they had stuck a snorkel on it i’d of probably got one :)
Im sneaking up on 10,000 miles on my 2018 Eps . Only issue was the 4x4 switch . I took it apart and re - greased it with new dielectric grease , its fixed. I should change the belt soon !
i went and had a good look on yamahas site at the 22 grizzlys i agree on the base model that color scheme does suck but i do i like the colors of the other two as for the base model they should've went with one color or the other i also had a good look at both the kodial 450 and 700's their colors look pretty good too
I tell you what I wanted a atv I did my home work very well talked to people and more. videos also I bought a 2020 Yamaha xtr I couldn't be more happier I think I got 118 miles on it 16 hours lol it was a great choice
I prefer an all around trail dire with directional lugs, ITP terracross and Kenda bearclaws are probably my favorite.. Next would be GBC Dirt Commanders
Love the review I just bought a 2020 grizzly se I am glad I did before the color change. Yamaha has always been good to me. It made me sell my brute force v twin, And alot better fuel efficient for the trails
I've owned 4 of them, last one a 16 model when they put that new motor on it which I hated it. So I traded for a 850 sp sportsman. I agree with everything you said. Best atv on the market... I want a 22 model now, and will trade my 850 in on it.
Wish I could get the 2021 Grizzly that I ordered back in March. It is extremely frustrating to wait 7 months for an atv then find out that for 2022 they chose that color scheme for EPS.
Hang in there it will be worth it! Have ur dealer get on them a bit too. Ordered a '21 Yamaha Raptor 700R-SE early April got it June 5th here in Ohio @ a pretty large powersports dealer. I think allocation is based on a dealers yrly sales. Tho not sure.
How about for property maintenance and plowing a larger driveway (with tracks)? I'm currently looking at an Outlander 1000 XT-P for the extra power to push a lot of snow and pull a small trailer to move dirt, maybe even leveling piles of dirt. I may do occasional trail riding, but primary use would be as a workhorse. Are 1000cc engines overrated when it comes to that type of use case as well, or are they a more appropriate fit for that purpose?
That's a tuff call.. In general I'd say a 1000cc atv is more performance oriented but the extra weight and extra power might be a good idea if you're pushing fairly deep snow and running tracks on it.. An XT-P with tracks and a plow is certainly going to be a pricey endeavor and a small tractor might be a better tool for some of those jobs, but the XT-P definitely an awesome trail machine..
@@DirtObseXXion Thank you. The Can-am won't be available until Spring so I can look at tractors in the meantime. I think the Outlander on tracks would be more fun to clear snow though. :)
@@Andre_Albert Definitely more fun!!! You know the work you have to do, so if you think the load is within an ATVs capabilities I'd say go for it! I personally would look for the machine with the easiest mounting system for the plow.
This video was fantastic. I'm torn between the 2022 Can Am Outlander xt 650 and the 2022 Yamaha Grizzly XT-R. The two are competitively priced and either would suit my off-road needs well, which is mainly trail riding with a little mudding in the mix. Top end speed means very little to me, but durability is huge. Initially, I was looking at the 2022 Polaris Sportsman Ultimate Trail, but Polaris seems to have a lot of opposition in online forums due to chronic mechanical issues. Any advice would certainly be appreciated.
I think you're on track with a Grizzly or Outlander 650.. We haven't had great luck with two of the big Sportsmans we had.. The Outlander is more powerful, that Rotax motor is no joke, but in my opinion the Grizzly handles better and is more comfortable.. I don't think you're gonna have durability issues with either one of them.. I suggest checking out both in person and see which one feels better to you.. I will say they're both probably going to be hard to find.. Our local CanAm dealer can't get any machines right now.. Lead time on ordering is 3-4 months. In this market, you might be subject to whatever happens to be available
I was down to the grizz and the 650 xt as well..... Went with the grizzly xtr, as it was priced exactly the same as the 650 xt.... If it were $1500 less I would have went with the can am
The grizzly and japanese bikes in general are the way to go. Parts are cheap and reliability is 2nd to none. That is a well established fact. The Rotax will be more powerful. My 21 grizzly takes 10w40 and a conventional screw on oil filter. The 4 zerks on the rear UCA & LCA needs lithium grease every ride or two. Same fluid for front/rear diff and transfer case. Maintenaince is so stupid easy. This is the stuff they dont tell you before you buy and is a huge factor in ownership. Thats another big reason metric bikes rule. Electronic switch on the fly transfer case. Except the front locker. Gotta be stopped for that. Sealed wet brakes and stout running gear. The grizzly 700 runs hot. Fan kicks on at 206°F. Not hot enough to burn plastics like the can am but the grizzly does run hot. In the end the Can Ams are like the BMWs of the bike world. Expensive up front and over the long haul. Not so much the yamaha
I've been incredibly tempted to upgrade my 2005 Grizzly 660 for a new XTR and I know the 686cc engine is better and has EFI, but when I went to the dealership to compare what the new Grizzly's offer, I can't justify spending over $11,000 when mechanically it really doesn't appear to be THAT much different than my old 660. I'm torn. My old 660 has all the power I need and the carb is dialed in perfectly to my Colorado altitude, and a paid off quad is the best. I sure would like one of these new XT Rs though 🤷♂️ I'm only interested in owning Yamaha or Honda. The big power machines are sweet but I'm into reliability and practicality. No one beats that over Yamaha and Honda.
If it’s not broke, why replace it. I’m still using a 2004 Kodiak 450. This thing is a friggin beast. 950hrs and 14000 km and finally had to replace the wet clutch, and greased up the primary and secondary sheeves for the belt. Toasted it trying to tow a trailer full of cut wood, in high gear and not low.
@@jeremyjohnson5893 I mean now is the time to sell a used quad with the prices they're going for and with winter around the corner. I just talked to a guy at my South Denver Yamaha dealership that just got his new MT09 in, and he only had to wait 6 months for it 😳. I've decided I'm going to keep my 660 and probably buy a new Raptor instead of a new Grizz 🤔
I had a Grizz for a while and did a lot of trail riding in sandy loam and hills with rocks. I could get that thing anywhere and it literally never broke unless I crashed. Now I am back in the market, and could afford any quad, and I think I will get another Grizzly.
I have a 2007 I bought brand new. Hasn’t changed much other than when they stuck that unreliable engine in for a few years. 9000 km and it’s been really good. Engine solid, still doesn’t burn oil at all and I’m still on the original belt! Other than normal maintenance items I’ve replaced the stator, rad fan, eps (my fault I sunk the quad an water got in the old unit), winch, heated grips, several wheel bearings and brake pads, one rotor, and that’s about it. Minor for 15 yrs old.
I've always LVOED my grizzlies! I've had a few, too, and never ANY real issues with them! I'm not too upset that they have not changed things in a long time. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Yes, they are awesome Indeed. Tho i'm partial to my new '21 Raptor 700R-SE these days ..it shares engine design w/newer Grizzly.. tho in pure performance capacity of course.
@@brucestephens1415 Honda has dropped the ball on its ATV line up. It's pathetic really. They are good. Yamaha, Polaris, Can Am etc are so much further ahead in tech & features. Lookin @ '22 Can Am XC Renegade 850 for my next quad.
Been watching y’all for a while love your channel can y’all do a review on say like the middle of the road atv like outlander 570 and a old school classic like the bayou 300-400 and beat the hell out of it man if I wasn’t so tore up about throttle response and power and I was the same size I was back when I had the bayou I would have those tanks anyways just asking for y’all to do a review on the poor mans atv and a budget atv
Just left our local canam dealership.. They don't have anything in stock.. Said it's gonna get worse before it gets better.. I do have a test on some middle weights almost done, but we didn't have an Outlander in it..
@@DirtObseXXion I ordered a outlander max xt a week before thanksgiving last year and in April this year they called and said it would be august or September so I got mad and bought a water softener for my house kinda wish I wouldn’t have been so impatient the Honda place said they can’t get any either hard to believe no dealer can get any they said they order them but they only send 3-4 every few months
@@whiterhinooutdoors4572 Same story with every manufacturer.. They expect it to get worse before it gets better too... 2023 will be extremely hard to find anything
@@alexprince9035 that’s what I keep reading. So, the Kodiaks made sense to me. I have the base models so I don’t need much. I just picked up a 21 700 a week ago and I do wish it had a Speedo/odometer though.
@@bach5780 even for the price they’re asking for the kodiak it should have one. Me personally I would never buy a new Yamaha with the prices they’re asking. I’d rather buy a new Polaris even if the reliability isn’t as good
@@alexprince9035 $7500 msrp for a 700 I think is a great value. I do agree though that it should have a screen of some sort. No Speedo is really lame at any price point
That's what I am seeing too. Big price jump... for what? Just like the Kodiak 700 EPS to the Kodiak 700 SE. All that money extra. For what? At least the 450 jump gives you a winch.
1:00 - couldn't agree more! What were they thinking? lol I agree, these are excellent trail machines and if Honda didn't make ATV's, I'd probably be riding a Grizzly. Excellent video! Very well done!
Yea I’ve always went for Honda I’ve been thinking on a Yamaha but I just don’t like that it’s belt driven so I say it’ll be Honda for sure stick with the what I’ve always had they never let me down
@@scottmugford1123 Yamaha cvt is nothing like any of the other cvt systems. And it will stay up against your gears in the Honda in water, or pulling a heavy load behind it. I sold my 450 foreman and bought a 700 Kodiak, world of difference, but best move ever. This bike can do anything that 450 could, easier, faster, and more comfortably. The only place the Honda beats it is fuel economy, but it barely does that.
Pls do a review on Yamahas '22 "pure performance" sport quads when they come out (tho likely unchanged). In fact, let us know when they will release '22 model sport quads!
Good review, I personally think the Kodiak should take the grizzly spot and the Grizzly should get a serious up grade with a 1000 for the enthusiast, Love Yamaha have the 17 Grizzly but under power for what I am into so gave it to the wife and son to ride, i went the 1000xt and love the power, would have stuck with Yamaha if they had an option. Great plat form would recommend it.
Yes, but it revs higher not lower. It requires higher revs to move the belt. You can simply change to the lighter grizzly weights and get the same snappy performance from the kodiak
I wish we could get the gray/orange in Canada. I'm going to go with the gray and white. I was going to go Polaris 1000 S or Can Am Outlander XTP 1000. But the price savings and reliability of the Grizzly has changed my mind.
I've got a 2009 grizzly 700 , I bought it used from a dealer with 2300 miles on it , I now have 7000 miles on it . I ride everyday and because I ride everyday I have had some wear issues .. CV boots and front wheel bearings .. I will have replace CV belt soon .. its getting a little noisy .. but all in all it is a GREAT machine .. I'd recommend it to anyone
I've got a 2008 King Quad 750 with a similiar amount of miles, 6800 as of yesterday. Still have the original belt too. I've had to replace all 4 cv shafts but they're not that expensive, the aftermarket models off Amazon are about $60 a piece and are just as good as oem. I'm sure the ones for your Grizzly are available for about the same price. I actually have a new belt that I bought last year but have yet to need to use. Ill just keep it on the shelf until I need it. Other than that routine maintenance like oil changes, brakes and wheel bearings. On my third set of tires, though the factory originals were pretty worn when i bought it back in early 2018. I actually was going to buy a used Grizzly 700 when I got this but the King Quad was a better deal and I've been quite happy with it. Paid $3500 for it then, $3500 won't buy you anything close to used 700 class machine now. She's not quite as pretty as she once was, the red plastic is faded and has got some cracks and tears in it but still starts right up and runs like new.
👍 good video. I talked my dad into buying a 2021 grizzly XTR The beginning of this year got it at the end of February. This machine is an absolute beast. My only complaint is the plastic is cheap & breaks very easily. In my opinion the XTR model should come with the upgraded bigger brush guard And metal skid plates. My dad bumped a tree and cracked front of fender😬 He also destroyed the floorboard the second trip in the woods. We ordered the ricochet 10 piece skid plates. They are well worth the money. Would be nice if it was straight from the factory decked out paying $12000+. We also have a Honda Rubicon deluxe 2017. The grizzly is bigger and heavier but rides smaller and more nimble.
Hate to hear that about the plastic! I think a better skid plate is a reasonable ask on the XT-R.. But I've used ricochet before.. That will definitely solve the problem
@@jessewilliams2719 Honda is great! Haven’t gone riding as much as I want to but starts up ride‘s nice just like day one. If you have the extra money I would go with Yamaha grizzly but you will not be disappointed with Honda unless you’re looking for speed.
May have to look into a grizzly. Looking at a Suzuki 750 Kingquad, Yamaha Grizzly 700 or a can am 570 or maybe a 650 or 850. Canam is my 1st choice but I’m not too sold on them yet
Just check both out in person before you go one way or the other... Sometimes the best machine on paper just doesn't feel right when you sit on it... Everyone is different
@@DirtObseXXion that's 100% right. I was set on a 700 grizzly until I sat on it..... Coming from a 450 Honda, the grizz felt huge, and the wider plastics took away my sight lines for technical trail riding. Sat on the Kodiak next to it and boom... Liked the seat and bar position much better, I could see the shaker plastic was closer to the old Honda sight lines... Yet still got my 700 power. Sold 2018 Kodiak 700 SE. It's been modded to do everything the grizzly could and more. Love this bike
I actually really like that grey/yellow combo. I had a Grizz 700 and while it's a great motor, I'm still holding out hope for a twin. I love the motor in my Polaris 850sp....the rest of it is a pass. I wish I could put this motor in a Grizzly frame.
Get one while you can they sell so fast! Can't go wrong w/Polaris either. All we have is Yamaha & Polaris ATVs. Maybe a '22 Can Am Renegade XC 850 next tho:)
I agree very twin would rock. I have 2016 700 it lacks power. Handel's well. Had can am 800 xtp fell apart on me had 750 brute force had a lot of power but did not take bumps well. I did switch 4 clutch weights spring and shim. It is much quicker and better coming out of turns I did loose a little top end but I do not need it on trails
Um.. We friggen love that quad! We have 2 07 LTR450s and just got a z400 yesterday.. I did a video on one of the LTRs.. We've got more videos planned..
I have to say your videos led me to buy my 21 grizzly a year ago now. I just recently went for a rip with a group of friends riding various brands and bore sizes. After swapping out rides every now and again to try out different machines. Everyone was drooling over my grizzly, and I agreed with all of the things they said. By far, I definitely am extremely overjoyed with my purchase. The only drawback I am having with it is that the two plastic wings towards the front of the seat cushion that are in place to help keep the seat in position keep coming out of their designated slot. I will say I find it quite annoying. Other than that, I thank you so much for all of the research you put into these machines.
Truly honored I could help and I'm super glad you're happy with it!!! The Grizzly will probably always be my favorite 4x4.. Nothing else checks as many boxes even tho there are a few things I would change too..
I have owned 1 Yamaha, It was worked on more then it was rode and at 8 months old it was completely shot. It just couldn’t stand the pressure. Lol. Still have that after taste in my mouth after 21 year’s.
Question, the Grizzly on this video from the 40 second mark to the 49 second mark... Is that an older model or a 2022? I don't see that color option for 2022. I wish it were, I'd buy it in a heart beat.
@@DirtObseXXion I'm actually planning on buying a Grizzly. I was going to buy a 700 if they didn't update it or an 850/1000 if they did. So since they didn't I was hoping for some more normal color choice options but wow they didn't help me there either. I don't like the camo option bc a lot of the atv is black+camo like on the headlight pod and it doesn't look good to me. And Green is always my other favorite color and that's not where to be found again. Instead we get that puke yellow/gray option. Guess I'll have to decide between the black or silver SE models smh
I had a chance to talk with some folks from Yamaha last summer... A bigger Grizzly isn't on their agenda or at least wasn't last year.. They're focused on the sxs market. Are you getting rid of the Sportsman?
@@hernilsoriano4873 Awesome man congratulations! The Raptor has been my favorite ATV out of everything I've owned, rode, or tested.. I can't ever imagine not having one..
I have enjoyed every minute of my 21' Grizzly 700 xt-r so far. Do i want way more power? of course, but i wouldn't sacrifice the agility for the power. The nimble size allows me to whip this around at every chance. I'm not a small guy either at 230# and i have no problem keeping up with the bigger bikes. A lot of obstacles i can easily maneuver that they tend to struggle with.
Hunter, anytime youre in Ohio and want left behind by the big heavy quads just let me know. The most common thing we hear from new guys is "Whats the fastest way back to the truck?"
@@HGTMachining Id be lying if I said the grizzly in our group didnt just almost have to tow a renegade out last weekend. The renegade tried to take a shortcut to pass me and smacked a tree very hard and broke his fan and radiator when bumper got pushed back into them
2022 grizzly is appealing but I think a 700 single would be a noticeable downgrade from my sportsman 800 twin. The suspension and power pushes me to polaris and can am. I'm trading in my 800 twin for a 850/1k cc machine. My local dealer has a 2021 sportsman 850 trail for 11k and a 2020 outlander 1000 xt for 14k. So what do you think is ur choice?. Is can am really that good???
We've had 2 Sportsman 1ks and 2 Outlander 1000s... I like the ride and ergonomics of the Sportsman better but I'd get the Outlander if I had to do it again... Too many issues with the Sportsman if you push them hard.. My spent a lot of time at the dealership getting things fixed under warranty
I own a 16 srambler 1k xp and a 21 renegade 1k xxc. Hands down the renegade is better and more reliable. You will be much happier with the outlander. I just had a buddy who was going back and forth on which he wanted so I brought both out and let him ride scrambler first half the day then renegade the second half. He likes the seat better on scrambler but nothing else. He said he's ordering a new renegade next week
The Outlander 650 makes more power than what your sportsman 800 does, I'd take a look at one of those too. Probably not a lot less expensive but definitely not 14k.
My first grizzly 700 was a 2018 and was a great machine but I didn't like the 708 engine I aggressively trail rode it for 1 year in the Colorado high country on rough trails for over 1200 miles and it performed well but at the end of the year it had some things that needed to be addressed like tires, brakes, shocks ,wheel bearings and and gear box bearings but I figured this is normal wear and tear but I literally rode it hard for that time and so it was then I decided to call my local dealer and see about a trade in for a 2020 and compare prices and it was at that time that I traded for my new current 2020 grizzly 700 with 686 engine that is a better more reliable engine and the horsepower as very slightly less than the 708 but still has enough for normal trail riding and suits me just fine, I have made some upgrades to it for reliability purposes only and not really horsepower gain and it performes like a dream on rough trails, I have had alot of atvs over the years and use to race sport quads but for trail riding this is the best and smoothest most reliable machine I have ever ridden and I will continue buying Yamaha their clutch and belt system is indestructible, there way better than the competition in my opinion, so anyone thinking of getting a sport utv, you cant go wrong with the grizzly or kodiak utvs
I have a 2002 grizz I bought as a second quad for letting the kids or a friend ride and ended up really liking it. The quad has so much more refinement compared to my 2016 brute force. Yeah the brute has an awesome engine but the brakes and tranny pale in comparison to the grizzly. I’m not a fan of the EPS the brute either. I’m thinly of pulling the trigger on the spec’d out version of the grizz. Good video BTW.
I dont think yamaha needs a 1000cc motor in the grizzly but it could definitely add another option in motor size like other manufactures do maybe like an 850 vtwin or something to help separate its powertrain from the kodiak
I think you convinced me with this video. I don't need 1000 cc. Heavy weight maintenance nightmare. I need a well rounded fun machine that is reliable. Great video
Glad to hear it! Some folks want the biggest most powerful ATV they can get and that's ok.. We went through that phase too.. But balance, agility, and durability is more important once you get past the ego thing
@@DirtObseXXion just try n buy parts now. Its brutal here in Ontario.
@@DirtObseXXion, not entirely true. I grew up drag racing on sport quads, because I live where sport quads are useless I finally jumped ship after 22 years to 4x4. As a motorsport salesman I think yamaha is missing a huge market due to the Japanese stubbornness to use a 75+ HP motor. If yamaha would at least put out 75 I wouldn't have bought a 1000.
@@BertaWheet I understand some folks want them, but it's obviously not enough of a demand to interest Yamaha.. My guess is that regulations and carbon credits play a role in the decision.. If Yamaha can only produce X number of machines with existing credits, they are betting they'd sell more 700 Grizzlies than big twins.. Plus the current Grizzly costs them 0 in R&D, there's huge cost associated with developing and manufacturing an entirely new atv which is what it would be.. All they have now is an engine they could theoretically use in an 850 if it was modified.. According to Polaris, Big Bore sales, 850 and up make up the smallest segment of their ATV market.. They literally said that verbatim at the press release for their S models.
Yamaha makes great 450cc machines. That's bout the lowest size I go in utility/ trail 4wd quad myself. Plus Yamaha has best all around choices out there these days.
I picked up a Kodiak 700 EPS SE last month... It is doing everything I need. I got it for hunting/working. I am very happy with it.
Kodiak just under the Grizzly!!! Still badass!!!!! CAN'T NEVER GO WRONG WITH A Yamaha ..
Really enjoyed this well balanced overview! These are excellent sport utility ATVs for sure. We have a bunch of Yamahas & Polaris ATVs. Can't go wrong w/either.
Thank you!!!
My 21 Kingquad 750 rips but I still have mad respect for Grizzly’s! We grew up on em!
I have a blue 2018 grizzly 700 with the Fuji 708cc engine and aside from the engine, it's been a fantastic atv! The newer 686cc Kodiak my buddy has runs a smooth and quiet as a sewing machine, it's an absolute dream of an engine. With that all out of the way, I have 5,000 km on this ATV and I haul firewood and plow snow in a pretty large driveway. That ATV has been strong and very reliable. So far I've had no wheel bearing, tie rod end or any suspension part replacements. Just last week I had the CVT cover off to do an inspection while I was performing a full service and the CVT is just like new. There is no belt dust or abnormal patterns on the CVT sheaves. I've never experienced belt slip even hauling a full trailer load of firewood in high range on a dirt road. If anyone is it all hesitant about purchasing an ATV with a CVT transmission, I would say Yamaha and Suzuki are about the best out there.
I have a 2019 Grizzly and love it. I run 27’s, added an EHS tuner with an air box mod and Barkers exhaust. Couldn’t be happier with its performance.
I bet it's a beast with those mods
My 19 Grizzly has the EXACT same set up. I couldn't be happier with it.
I'm interested about those mods. Are there any forums for advice? How to make airbox mod?
I am a big Grizzly fan. I have had three. One 660 and two 700s. Love them!!!!
Have a 2021 Grizzly se and we love it! Thing is an absolute beast in every terrain we’ve hit. The shocks and comfort of the machine is insane especially compared to my Raptor. I totally recommend this machine to everyone looking for a solid do it all quad.
Nice!
Should ride you a poolaris
I have a 2021 Grizzly and couldn't be happier, it has surprised me at every turn . I have 28" Maga Mayhems and don't use 4 wheel drive much. Had to relocate the radiator to keep the mud out of it.
How is it through water? Polaris sportsman 450 is not good, water will get it and need to drain it. Can am 570 outlander xt flys through water and mud no prob at all
I was a Polaris guy for years. Owned 6 over the course of 10 years. After the last one I had, I did extensive research on most machines. I asked tons of questions to dealers and owners and after hearing multiple times that people haven’t touched their Grizzly for repairs other than oil and spark plugs for at least 30-35,000 kms I was sold. I saw a few Grizzlies with over 50,000 kms and still running great. I went out and bought a 2019 Grizzly 700 and haven’t looked back.
I have a 2018 Viking 3 with the 686 single and was at first skeptical about buying because of the larger displacement twin cylinders in the Polaris and Honda models that made anything less than 1000 cc seem underpowered... but I was wrong. Coupled with their CVT drivetrain, Yamaha nailed the perfect mix of power, weight and durability in the ATV/UTV industry... with the battle for the best looking model or number of gadgets driving prices through the roof.
Grizzly is the best overall woods riding quad.
I think the question you have to ask yourself when you buy an ORV of any kind is: " what am I ACTUALLY using this for?"
Cause if you wanna race occasionally than you want a can am or polaris
If you just want a dependable woods banger than the Grizzly is a go to. They have an excellent suspension because you aren't losing ride quality from excessive weight. Big vtwins are 900+ lbs wet. Thats heavy AF for a bike that has to drive over roots and washboard terrain and only has 10" travel which loses ride quality from stiff swaybars as well that are necessary to control the power those machines have
John Pellan from @atvscene has been racing a Grizzly this year and doing pretty well... If I were going to race a 4x4 it would probably be a CanAm
I had a can am and loved it. Up keep was stupidly priced so i got rid of it *shrugs*. Great bike if you got deep pockets
This is such a great review! I'm a Honda guy and I think the Grizzly 700 is an exceptional machine. A bigger heavier machine may be viewed by some as a net negative, unless you intent to sink your machine up to the handle bars in mud, or unless you want to drag race. For farming/ranching/trail riding/bushwhacking my Honda Rubicon in the 500 class is perfect. I agree that the Grizz 700 seems to strike the right balance between power and agility.
Been a Yamaha guy all my life but I think both Honda and Yamaha are exceptional.
Love the review and can't wait until you guys take it out and make a trail review and trash it around. I'm convinced to trade in my old one and upgrade to a new one. Thank you.
Thanks Luke!
love yamaha my grandpa has a grizzly 400 he bought new in 2000 use it for all farm work never broke down on us never has had any issues other then dead battery and changing the oil super reliable
Had a Grizzly 700 SE, loved everything about it except the short wheelbase. At 6’4” it always felt like I was sitting right over the rear axle. Not a good feeling on a big hill climb. Regretfully sold it for a 1000 Highlifter. Love the longer wheelbase but sure miss the confident feeling I’ll make it home. Great video and I still love the Yamahas!
Hey I'm the same height as you and used to own a grizzly 700 as well. Do the canams have longer wheelbases in general, or do you need the outlander max xt? I'm shopping around right now
The Yamaha has a 49” wheelbase and the Can-Am is 51”. I bought a Polaris which is 53” but if you’re looking at Can-Am I did drive a new XMR last weekend and the 51” wheelbase is comfortable. The 2-up can-am is I believe 8 inches longer than the single seat models and they have plenty of room but on tight trails you will have a bigger turning radius. I loved the Yamaha but just too short for my build. Hope this helps some and happy riding.
I got 2 friends with can am's and they had to start replacing stuff by the second season of riding. One has an X3 and most of the bushing's wore out. Power steering rack was clunking all over too. Stock radius arms are super thin and bend easy had to shell 600 for billet by 2nd year he had it. They dont come with any protection so you'll tear off plastic's in no time
I have the 2021 Grizz SE model, and I love it .... live in the southwest, do a lot of technical and Trail riding with it , not so much muddying .... and it has been a blast coming from a can am outlander...
Glad to hear it!! Thanks for checking out the vid!
Thanks for the solid review. Keep up the great work. This review helped me make up my mind. Appreciate it.
Glad I could help!
Glad you did this review……. I started following you two year ago when you had your Grizz!
I'll have another one someday.. We've been having a blast on sportquads but I miss the 4x4 sometimes
I've had my most recent ATV for 2 years or so and enjoy hitting the trails with a few friends a few times a month. Everyone has their own style of riding that they enjoy, I'm glad my group just likes lugging around and enjoying the scenery. Maybe some hill climbs, a flip over or two a month, but it's fun for us. I don't think I could do the 25mph trail riding, ass in the air, tree dodging techniques enjoyed by others. And there are really none of those trails in the miles we ride here in South Central Kentucky (near home anyway)
Fellow KY boy, we were just at White Sulfur in Salt Lick Sunday.. The OHV trails in the Daniel Boone are nice, 50inch restricted so they're perfect for ATVs and never very busy..
Just bought a kodiak 700 back in june and going from my 97 timberwolf 250 it is pleanty of power for me and the ride is awsome its like driving a Tempur-pedic mattress
Awesome review !! TY .... just put a deposit on a 2022 Grizzly 700 SE ... dealer told me that if I use yamalube and yamaha filter and keep up with the maintenance as per manual .... Yamaha warranties the engine for 20 years or 160 000 km ...must register unit online and update the maintenance done with mileage etc.... but well worth it .... first time I ever heard of that ...Big bonus aswell if Yamaha stands by it which i think they will.
Yep! They offer it because they know they won't need to honor it.. That motor is as bullet proof as they come...
just took delivery of my 22 eps se...love it, the best grizzly yet
Sorry bro I get carried away sometimes. Thank you for your service and God Bless!!! Great content keep up the good work
All good brother, appreciate you watching! Please keep the feedback coming whether or not you agree with my opinions.. It makes the channel better... At the end of the day we're all just passionate about the sport, and I can definitely respect that!
With a KFI snow plow setup my 2021 SE cost just north of $16,000 Canadian, expensive yes! That said it’s been bullet proof. Put 1000km on it with no issues at all. It’s chipped, clutched and is a absolute blast to ride. It’s plenty fast with a few modifications!
I was so satisfied with my '08 grizzly that I bought a second one in 2020 and kept the old one for my sons. The only things I changed are the tires. The zillas are great in the mud but when you hit dirt roads, they throw rocks all over the place and give a rougher ride on those 14" wheels. So I bought a set of Bighorns on 12" rims for the trail.
Awesome! Yeah even moderate mud tires are too much lug for me..
That’s exactly my thought I have a 2021 and want to change to 12” wheels. What size tire did you go with?
@@TheAnnalynn77 I went with 26" but you have to remove the backing plate behind the discs. You can probably buy some that would fit in the 12" rims but I just took them off. It rides a lot smoother now. Totally worth it.
I just put money down an a 2022 xtr . Will be in within a month . Can’t wait ! Ultimately I chose the grizzly for its unparalleled reputation for reliability. I was considering a can am 650 but I agree with this video’s evaluation of usable power and trail friendliness of the grizz . I ride wood’s motorcycles as well and there is one thing that is for sure , it’s a lot more fun to ride a “slow “ bike fast than a fast bike slow 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the Awesome video and review!
Well said dude, I may have to use that! 👍
Just bought a 2023, picking it up next week after they do the PDI and winch installation. Can't wait!!
We just a 2022 a couple months ago and did a review on it, got a Kinf Quad for a comparison too... Congratulations on the new wheeler! Is it your first?
@@DirtObseXXion No, my first was a Yamaha Wolverine back in 99, and I've had many since then. Been wanting a Grizz for a while now.
@@lcdubs7847 Very cool.. Warrior was my first in 2000..
I just bought a new kodiak xt 700 eps....Couldn't be more impressed with both the power and the ride...Not to mention the bullet proof reliability...
Man. Great vid! I’m excited about selecting my first atv and this is definitely on the list. I’ve also been looking at the Honda foreman and rubicon. Do you have an opinion on the Hondas and how they stack up to the Yamahas? Thanks!
We just did a comparison on the Grizzly vs KingQuad. The Honda's are an entirely different flavor.. They're great for what they are, very reliable. But fun factor and ride quality isn;t the same as Yamaha.
My 09 still rocking great machines
I literally just picked up my 2021 Grizzly SE today. I ordered it 4 months ago. Cant wait to ride it..
Awesome!!!
You must be really strong if you literally picked up a Grizzly. They weight almost 800 lbs!!
@@samsadovnik93 Oh geez... Dad joke time..
I have a 2021 Grizzly, I couldn't imagine having more power where and how I ride. I already can't use all the power it has riding thru woods. Now on the gravel roads ya but I have no desire to drive 100 mph on a quad. I think the grizzly is pretty close to perfect the way it is, maybe some better shocks but it's still very nice.
Great video I love your channel!
Thanks brother! Appreciate the plug on the Gram!!! 🙌
@@DirtObseXXion you’re welcome!
Looking between a CanAm outlander 650 and a Grizzly 700. Both seem to be similar pricing. Any recommendations? Rode a 2018 Griz on some trails and liked it, felt light and nimble. Test rode a CanAm in a parking lot so couldn't get a good feel for it.
2019 Kodiak 700 owner. I hate cvt but Yamaha does a good job at keeping it from revving to the moon just to do anything. I just wish I could get a Honda big bore that has more than 3 gears
Change your clutch weights, you can change your engagement point. I run 18gram grizzly weights in my Kodiak for the snappiness of a grizzly, but also have a machined sheave and a sim to keep my low end torque, plus I added a heavier secondary spring for faster back shifting and an even better engine braking.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 I will look into that
Would love to see you do a video on the Kodiak 450SE. Love the grizzlies, but out my budget. I think the kodiak 450se is the best bang for your buck for those who aren't looking to spend an absolute ton of money on their machine, but also want something of good quality and reliability out on the trail.
I'm a huge fan of the Grizzly, but just not sure there are enough differentiating features between the it and the Kodiak, especially with price overlap depending on trim levels. Great video!
The Kodiak is a more compact chasis and the motor is detuned a bit to make the throttle much less punchy.. But depending on needs the Kodiak could certainly be the better buy..
In 2016 the Kodiak started out at $6,400 the Grizzly at $9,400. But that was the new 708cc and slightly different design on the quad. I had a lot of problems with my Grizzly not so much the motor but the quad itself. So much I'm disappointed and discouraged from Yamaha.
I'd never buy a new Yamaha ATV from a dealer again. I'm at that point in my life where i'm ready for a SxS. I like the Viking but not with the 686cc.
The grizzly blows the kodiak away, I have a 2021 grizzly and a 2021 kodiak. The grizzly is more stable, rides way smoother, has a bigger layout and will blow the kodiak away from a dead stop and wheelies over obstacles that the kodiak won't. Both good machines but the grizzly is more sport and its worth the extra money in my opinion 😉
I actually went into the dealership planning on a kodiak because I was trying to keep costs down. It was the wider stance that convinced me to go for the Grizz, as much as anything. Lots of people put wheel spacers on their quads to make them wider, but not many are actively trying to make them narrower.
Not only is it a beast but it’s literally the best looking atv on the market Yamaha just nailed it.
I think the first XTR was the best looking Grizzly ever, with first SE blue one in a close 2nd..
Just got back in town from a riding weekend and seen this video so had to check it out. Awesome video as usual!
Hit the nail on the head on all key points of the grizzly.
What the hell is up with the yellow paint scheme?
Geez.. LOL
Thanks KC! Hope you guys had fun!
@@DirtObseXXion had a good time. Rode with quadBilly and his crew check out his channel quadBilly.
As a Yamaha owner I have to say I love it. Everything, with one small exception. That is the high beam light on the handle bar! As soon as you put a fuel pack on or a storage pack on the light becomes worthless, and the light low beam lights just don't cut it! I would love to see Yamaha do a few things....eliminate the light on the handle bars, put better (brighter) low beams on board, or a dual HB/LB lamp in. Widen the handle bars to accommodate some light pods! That would be a simple fix to make this machine PERFECT! It's just to simple to overlook. Anyone in on agreeing with this?
That's really good feedback 👍
Yeah not a fan of the light placement on the latest model , i quite often have both racks loaded up so would be of no use . If they had stuck a snorkel on it i’d of probably got one :)
Agreed!
Put a light bar on, end of story
20inch light bar on front rack from Amazon. Night into day
Own many miles can you get on a tank full? That is important info when trail riding.
Im sneaking up on 10,000 miles on my 2018 Eps . Only issue was the 4x4 switch . I took it apart and re - greased it with new dielectric grease , its fixed. I should change the belt soon !
That's awesome!
i went and had a good look on yamahas site at the 22 grizzlys i agree on the base model that color scheme does suck but i do i like the colors of the other two as for the base model they should've went with one color or the other i also had a good look at both the kodial 450 and 700's their colors look pretty good too
I tell you what I wanted a atv I did my home work very well talked to people and more. videos also I bought a 2020 Yamaha xtr I couldn't be more happier I think I got 118 miles on it 16 hours lol it was a great choice
Which atv and tires do you recommend for snow removal and winter riding...
I prefer an all around trail dire with directional lugs, ITP terracross and Kenda bearclaws are probably my favorite.. Next would be GBC Dirt Commanders
Love the review I just bought a 2020 grizzly se I am glad I did before the color change. Yamaha has always been good to me. It made me sell my brute force v twin, And alot better fuel efficient for the trails
Right on!
The brute is way more fun to drive, we went to the atv sled pulls and a brand new grizzly was crap couldnt pull the drag a foot.
The brute force is alot of fun to ride though!
@@WoodsUnknown For that kinda of thing I would agree the v- twin is better but for me I am a trail rider and grizzly fits that better imo
@@thejeepguy2059 I can’t deny my brute was awesome but I like my grizzly better
How does this compare to the brute force as far as power output ?
Will you review a king quad 750 in the future to compare to the Grizzly?
Please make a video show step by step how to install a hand warmer for an ATV Grizzly 2019-22 for some people don’t know how to install like me?
I've owned 4 of them, last one a 16 model when they put that new motor on it which I hated it. So I traded for a 850 sp sportsman. I agree with everything you said. Best atv on the market... I want a 22 model now, and will trade my 850 in on it.
Nice guys! Question for you- If you put a custom set a shocks on the Griz, could you or I race it XC?
Definitely! Check out @atvscene John Pellan is racing one this year..
@@DirtObseXXion Thanks, I will check it out.
I agree with these recommendations. I've ridden dozens of fourwheelers and Grizzly 700's are the best
Wish I could get the 2021 Grizzly that I ordered back in March. It is extremely frustrating to wait 7 months for an atv then find out that for 2022 they chose that color scheme for EPS.
Yeah that sucks man.. I hope you get it soon
Hang in there it will be worth it! Have ur dealer get on them a bit too. Ordered a '21 Yamaha Raptor 700R-SE early April got it June 5th here in Ohio @ a pretty large powersports dealer. I think allocation is based on a dealers yrly sales. Tho not sure.
I love the 700 Grizzlie. There awesome to ride. And the 660 to. My father has both of them. . Great machine s
Mines on order, black special edition, can't wait!
Sweet!!!
How about for property maintenance and plowing a larger driveway (with tracks)? I'm currently looking at an Outlander 1000 XT-P for the extra power to push a lot of snow and pull a small trailer to move dirt, maybe even leveling piles of dirt. I may do occasional trail riding, but primary use would be as a workhorse. Are 1000cc engines overrated when it comes to that type of use case as well, or are they a more appropriate fit for that purpose?
That's a tuff call.. In general I'd say a 1000cc atv is more performance oriented but the extra weight and extra power might be a good idea if you're pushing fairly deep snow and running tracks on it.. An XT-P with tracks and a plow is certainly going to be a pricey endeavor and a small tractor might be a better tool for some of those jobs, but the XT-P definitely an awesome trail machine..
@@DirtObseXXion Thank you. The Can-am won't be available until Spring so I can look at tractors in the meantime. I think the Outlander on tracks would be more fun to clear snow though. :)
@@Andre_Albert Definitely more fun!!! You know the work you have to do, so if you think the load is within an ATVs capabilities I'd say go for it! I personally would look for the machine with the easiest mounting system for the plow.
Love my 2014 se grizz bought it new only have had to replace a battery
This video was fantastic. I'm torn between the 2022 Can Am Outlander xt 650 and the 2022 Yamaha Grizzly XT-R. The two are competitively priced and either would suit my off-road needs well, which is mainly trail riding with a little mudding in the mix. Top end speed means very little to me, but durability is huge. Initially, I was looking at the 2022 Polaris Sportsman Ultimate Trail, but Polaris seems to have a lot of opposition in online forums due to chronic mechanical issues. Any advice would certainly be appreciated.
I think you're on track with a Grizzly or Outlander 650.. We haven't had great luck with two of the big Sportsmans we had.. The Outlander is more powerful, that Rotax motor is no joke, but in my opinion the Grizzly handles better and is more comfortable.. I don't think you're gonna have durability issues with either one of them.. I suggest checking out both in person and see which one feels better to you.. I will say they're both probably going to be hard to find.. Our local CanAm dealer can't get any machines right now.. Lead time on ordering is 3-4 months. In this market, you might be subject to whatever happens to be available
I was down to the grizz and the 650 xt as well..... Went with the grizzly xtr, as it was priced exactly the same as the 650 xt.... If it were $1500 less I would have went with the can am
The grizzly and japanese bikes in general are the way to go. Parts are cheap and reliability is 2nd to none. That is a well established fact. The Rotax will be more powerful. My 21 grizzly takes 10w40 and a conventional screw on oil filter. The 4 zerks on the rear UCA & LCA needs lithium grease every ride or two. Same fluid for front/rear diff and transfer case. Maintenaince is so stupid easy. This is the stuff they dont tell you before you buy and is a huge factor in ownership. Thats another big reason metric bikes rule. Electronic switch on the fly transfer case. Except the front locker. Gotta be stopped for that. Sealed wet brakes and stout running gear. The grizzly 700 runs hot. Fan kicks on at 206°F. Not hot enough to burn plastics like the can am but the grizzly does run hot. In the end the Can Ams are like the BMWs of the bike world. Expensive up front and over the long haul. Not so much the yamaha
I totally agree, I have a 2020 Grizzly wich is basicaly the same and I love it.
I've been incredibly tempted to upgrade my 2005 Grizzly 660 for a new XTR and I know the 686cc engine is better and has EFI, but when I went to the dealership to compare what the new Grizzly's offer, I can't justify spending over $11,000 when mechanically it really doesn't appear to be THAT much different than my old 660. I'm torn. My old 660 has all the power I need and the carb is dialed in perfectly to my Colorado altitude, and a paid off quad is the best. I sure would like one of these new XT Rs though 🤷♂️ I'm only interested in owning Yamaha or Honda. The big power machines are sweet but I'm into reliability and practicality. No one beats that over Yamaha and Honda.
Yeah that's a tuff decision.. They're definitely significant financial investments
I literally just sold my 660 and put a deposit down on an SE. Not sure it was smart, but I wanted a new quad so...
If it’s not broke, why replace it. I’m still using a 2004 Kodiak 450. This thing is a friggin beast. 950hrs and 14000 km and finally had to replace the wet clutch, and greased up the primary and secondary sheeves for the belt. Toasted it trying to tow a trailer full of cut wood, in high gear and not low.
@@jeremyjohnson5893 I mean now is the time to sell a used quad with the prices they're going for and with winter around the corner. I just talked to a guy at my South Denver Yamaha dealership that just got his new MT09 in, and he only had to wait 6 months for it 😳. I've decided I'm going to keep my 660 and probably buy a new Raptor instead of a new Grizz 🤔
@@gordonwbell Holy hell thats a lot of miles / kms on it!! My Grizzly still only has 1800 miles on it.
I had a Grizz for a while and did a lot of trail riding in sandy loam and hills with rocks. I could get that thing anywhere and it literally never broke unless I crashed. Now I am back in the market, and could afford any quad, and I think I will get another Grizzly.
Smart move!
I have a 2007 I bought brand new. Hasn’t changed much other than when they stuck that unreliable engine in for a few years. 9000 km and it’s been really good. Engine solid, still doesn’t burn oil at all and I’m still on the original belt! Other than normal maintenance items I’ve replaced the stator, rad fan, eps (my fault I sunk the quad an water got in the old unit), winch, heated grips, several wheel bearings and brake pads, one rotor, and that’s about it. Minor for 15 yrs old.
Right on.. I agree the 16-18s (I had a 16) weren't great motors.. Fortunately Yamaha went back to that bullet proof 686..
I picked up a 2022 CfMoto Cforce 600, for 7800. Canadian cvt, and Bosch Fuel injection, it's a beast.
Nice!
A bit confused …how do you choose between the mud tires or the tune since I will be ordering online ?
The SE and XTR models come with the zillas.. Base models have trail tires..
@@DirtObseXXion ohhh alright makes sense thanks !
I have really enjoyed the grizzly even on mx track it’s fun to drive and take jumps easily
Dang, a Grizzly on a MX track?? You animal!
Grizzlies and King Quads best all around quads in the game. Very torn on which one to get next. I already have a 500 King Quad and I love it.
I've always LVOED my grizzlies! I've had a few, too, and never ANY real issues with them! I'm not too upset that they have not changed things in a long time. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Great point! Hope y'all are doing good up there! Seen some gorgeous photos on the Gram!!!
Yep
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it just like on the Honda’s
Yes, they are awesome Indeed. Tho i'm partial to my new '21 Raptor 700R-SE these days ..it shares engine design w/newer Grizzly.. tho in pure performance capacity of course.
@@brucestephens1415 Honda has dropped the ball on its ATV line up. It's pathetic really. They are good. Yamaha, Polaris, Can Am etc are so much further ahead in tech & features. Lookin @ '22 Can Am XC Renegade 850 for my next quad.
Been watching y’all for a while love your channel can y’all do a review on say like the middle of the road atv like outlander 570 and a old school classic like the bayou 300-400 and beat the hell out of it man if I wasn’t so tore up about throttle response and power and I was the same size I was back when I had the bayou I would have those tanks anyways just asking for y’all to do a review on the poor mans atv and a budget atv
Just left our local canam dealership.. They don't have anything in stock.. Said it's gonna get worse before it gets better.. I do have a test on some middle weights almost done, but we didn't have an Outlander in it..
@@DirtObseXXion I ordered a outlander max xt a week before thanksgiving last year and in April this year they called and said it would be august or September so I got mad and bought a water softener for my house kinda wish I wouldn’t have been so impatient the Honda place said they can’t get any either hard to believe no dealer can get any they said they order them but they only send 3-4 every few months
@@whiterhinooutdoors4572 Same story with every manufacturer.. They expect it to get worse before it gets better too... 2023 will be extremely hard to find anything
Chad nice informative vid ! 700 in 2 wheel ( Raptor ) or 700 in 4x4 ya can’t go wrong , can ya !!
Dude. Love the claymation at the end. Lmao...Great review. I am fond of the Yamaha as well.
Lol! Thanks, did you check out the last Grizzly video I did? Went to Colorado with Yamaha back in June, it was pretty cool..
@@DirtObseXXion Haven't yet. Just subscribed and will soon. Thanks for the heads up.
Great video guys! Loved my Grizz no need for anything bigger hope the motor never changes !
Thanks brother!
Is the exhaust heat still an issue with the new model?
Exhaust heat is an issue on everything now.. A fuel programmer adds fuel making the machines less lean and therefore a little cooler
My next atv will be a grizzly. I have owned a Polaris, a Honda - Time for a Grizzly. Great review.
Thanks for checking it out!
Wya ya the major difference between the se and xtr?
Love the Yamaha line up. I currently have three kodiaks. Two 450s and a 700. The pricing compared to the Grizzlys kept me buying Kodiaks.
There’s barely any difference between the two.
@@alexprince9035 that’s what I keep reading. So, the Kodiaks made sense to me. I have the base models so I don’t need much. I just picked up a 21 700 a week ago and I do wish it had a Speedo/odometer though.
@@bach5780 even for the price they’re asking for the kodiak it should have one. Me personally I would never buy a new Yamaha with the prices they’re asking. I’d rather buy a new Polaris even if the reliability isn’t as good
@@alexprince9035 $7500 msrp for a 700 I think is a great value. I do agree though that it should have a screen of some sort. No Speedo is really lame at any price point
That's what I am seeing too. Big price jump... for what? Just like the Kodiak 700 EPS to the Kodiak 700 SE. All that money extra. For what? At least the 450 jump gives you a winch.
1:00 - couldn't agree more! What were they thinking? lol
I agree, these are excellent trail machines and if Honda didn't make ATV's, I'd probably be riding a Grizzly.
Excellent video! Very well done!
Thanks Q! I could see you on a Grizzly.... Shirtless.... Waving a Canadian flag...
@@DirtObseXXion 🤣🤣🤣
Yea I’ve always went for Honda I’ve been thinking on a Yamaha but I just don’t like that it’s belt driven so I say it’ll be Honda for sure stick with the what I’ve always had they never let me down
@@scottmugford1123 Yamaha cvt is nothing like any of the other cvt systems. And it will stay up against your gears in the Honda in water, or pulling a heavy load behind it. I sold my 450 foreman and bought a 700 Kodiak, world of difference, but best move ever. This bike can do anything that 450 could, easier, faster, and more comfortably. The only place the Honda beats it is fuel economy, but it barely does that.
Pls do a review on Yamahas '22 "pure performance" sport quads when they come out (tho likely unchanged). In fact, let us know when they will release '22 model sport quads!
I did one on the Raptor this year.. We have a few Raptors inches 21 SE.. 22s will likely come out early next year..
Have had a grizzly for years !! Awesome quads !! But they do need to up the horse power with a 850 motor
850? u need a 1000 little boy
@@glockisaac5570 I have a 1000 sportsman also
@@markbuck9299 lol u need a Can Am Renegade XXC 1000 best of both worlds work n play
Good review, I personally think the Kodiak should take the grizzly spot and the Grizzly should get a serious up grade with a 1000 for the enthusiast, Love Yamaha have the 17 Grizzly but under power for what I am into so gave it to the wife and son to ride, i went the 1000xt and love the power, would have stuck with Yamaha if they had an option. Great plat form would recommend it.
Totally agree, but I also HIGHLY doubt Yamaha will do it.. ATVs don't interest the big brands anymore..
Are they still putting different clutch weights in the Kodiak that make it rev lower?
Yes, I believe they are..
Yes, but it revs higher not lower. It requires higher revs to move the belt. You can simply change to the lighter grizzly weights and get the same snappy performance from the kodiak
I wish we could get the gray/orange in Canada. I'm going to go with the gray and white. I was going to go Polaris 1000 S or Can Am Outlander XTP 1000. But the price savings and reliability of the Grizzly has changed my mind.
I've got a 2009 grizzly 700 , I bought it used from a dealer with 2300 miles on it , I now have 7000 miles on it . I ride everyday and because I ride everyday I have had some wear issues .. CV boots and front wheel bearings .. I will have replace CV belt soon .. its getting a little noisy .. but all in all it is a GREAT machine .. I'd recommend it to anyone
I've got a 2008 King Quad 750 with a similiar amount of miles, 6800 as of yesterday. Still have the original belt too. I've had to replace all 4 cv shafts but they're not that expensive, the aftermarket models off Amazon are about $60 a piece and are just as good as oem. I'm sure the ones for your Grizzly are available for about the same price. I actually have a new belt that I bought last year but have yet to need to use. Ill just keep it on the shelf until I need it. Other than that routine maintenance like oil changes, brakes and wheel bearings. On my third set of tires, though the factory originals were pretty worn when i bought it back in early 2018. I actually was going to buy a used Grizzly 700 when I got this but the King Quad was a better deal and I've been quite happy with it. Paid $3500 for it then, $3500 won't buy you anything close to used 700 class machine now. She's not quite as pretty as she once was, the red plastic is faded and has got some cracks and tears in it but still starts right up and runs like new.
👍 good video. I talked my dad into buying a 2021 grizzly XTR The beginning of this year got it at the end of February. This machine is an absolute beast. My only complaint is the plastic is cheap & breaks very easily. In my opinion the XTR model should come with the upgraded bigger brush guard And metal skid plates. My dad bumped a tree and cracked front of fender😬 He also destroyed the floorboard the second trip in the woods. We ordered the ricochet 10 piece skid plates. They are well worth the money. Would be nice if it was straight from the factory decked out paying $12000+. We also have a Honda Rubicon deluxe 2017. The grizzly is bigger and heavier but rides smaller and more nimble.
Hate to hear that about the plastic! I think a better skid plate is a reasonable ask on the XT-R.. But I've used ricochet before.. That will definitely solve the problem
Hi what do you think about the Quality of CF moto atv
How has the honda been?
I'm having a really hard time deciding between the two.
@@jessewilliams2719 Honda is great! Haven’t gone riding as much as I want to but starts up ride‘s nice just like day one. If you have the extra money I would go with Yamaha grizzly but you will not be disappointed with Honda unless you’re looking for speed.
May have to look into a grizzly. Looking at a Suzuki 750 Kingquad, Yamaha Grizzly 700 or a can am 570 or maybe a 650 or 850. Canam is my 1st choice but I’m not too sold on them yet
Just check both out in person before you go one way or the other... Sometimes the best machine on paper just doesn't feel right when you sit on it... Everyone is different
@@DirtObseXXion that's 100% right. I was set on a 700 grizzly until I sat on it..... Coming from a 450 Honda, the grizz felt huge, and the wider plastics took away my sight lines for technical trail riding. Sat on the Kodiak next to it and boom... Liked the seat and bar position much better, I could see the shaker plastic was closer to the old Honda sight lines... Yet still got my 700 power. Sold 2018 Kodiak 700 SE. It's been modded to do everything the grizzly could and more. Love this bike
I actually really like that grey/yellow combo. I had a Grizz 700 and while it's a great motor, I'm still holding out hope for a twin. I love the motor in my Polaris 850sp....the rest of it is a pass. I wish I could put this motor in a Grizzly frame.
I like the flo-yellow & grey hue myself.
Get one while you can they sell so fast! Can't go wrong w/Polaris either. All we have is Yamaha & Polaris ATVs. Maybe a '22 Can Am Renegade XC 850 next tho:)
I agree very twin would rock. I have 2016 700 it lacks power. Handel's well. Had can am 800 xtp fell apart on me had 750 brute force had a lot of power but did not take bumps well. I did switch 4 clutch weights spring and shim. It is much quicker and better coming out of turns I did loose a little top end but I do not need it on trails
What's your take on the 2006 ltr 450?
Um.. We friggen love that quad! We have 2 07 LTR450s and just got a z400 yesterday.. I did a video on one of the LTRs.. We've got more videos planned..
I have to say your videos led me to buy my 21 grizzly a year ago now. I just recently went for a rip with a group of friends riding various brands and bore sizes. After swapping out rides every now and again to try out different machines. Everyone was drooling over my grizzly, and I agreed with all of the things they said. By far, I definitely am extremely overjoyed with my purchase. The only drawback I am having with it is that the two plastic wings towards the front of the seat cushion that are in place to help keep the seat in position keep coming out of their designated slot. I will say I find it quite annoying. Other than that, I thank you so much for all of the research you put into these machines.
Truly honored I could help and I'm super glad you're happy with it!!! The Grizzly will probably always be my favorite 4x4.. Nothing else checks as many boxes even tho there are a few things I would change too..
@@DirtObseXXion I wouldn't mind more storage. Never mind, I just saw another video, and it has plenty. lol
Love my lightly modded 2014 Grizzly 700 EPS. Adding a SxS soon otherwise I might be tempted at a new Grizz!
Eew don't get a SXS...
I have owned 1 Yamaha, It was worked on more then it was rode and at 8 months old it was completely shot. It just couldn’t stand the pressure. Lol. Still have that after taste in my mouth after 21 year’s.
Not fair... Nothing withstands the littleMan
Looking to buy our first ATV and I see I’m lining more to Yamaha or Polaris I think I’m gonna go for this grizzly
Having owned and tested nearly everything on the market I strongly recommend Yamaha over Polaris 👌
Question, the Grizzly on this video from the 40 second mark to the 49 second mark... Is that an older model or a 2022? I don't see that color option for 2022. I wish it were, I'd buy it in a heart beat.
That was a 2020 model
@@DirtObseXXion I'm actually planning on buying a Grizzly. I was going to buy a 700 if they didn't update it or an 850/1000 if they did. So since they didn't I was hoping for some more normal color choice options but wow they didn't help me there either. I don't like the camo option bc a lot of the atv is black+camo like on the headlight pod and it doesn't look good to me. And Green is always my other favorite color and that's not where to be found again. Instead we get that puke yellow/gray option. Guess I'll have to decide between the black or silver SE models smh
I had a chance to talk with some folks from Yamaha last summer... A bigger Grizzly isn't on their agenda or at least wasn't last year.. They're focused on the sxs market.
Are you getting rid of the Sportsman?
Nice review…I’m in the market for Yamaha raptor..but now I’m considering this one..thanks
Dude... There's 3 of us, we all own Raptors
@@DirtObseXXion thanks for the advice been..I’m rocking a 2021 raptor 700r blue!!!live it
@@hernilsoriano4873 Awesome man congratulations! The Raptor has been my favorite ATV out of everything I've owned, rode, or tested.. I can't ever imagine not having one..
I have enjoyed every minute of my 21' Grizzly 700 xt-r so far. Do i want way more power? of course, but i wouldn't sacrifice the agility for the power.
The nimble size allows me to whip this around at every chance. I'm not a small guy either at 230# and i have no problem keeping up with the bigger bikes. A lot of obstacles i can easily maneuver that they tend to struggle with.
Yep, power doesn't always do it..
Hunter, anytime youre in Ohio and want left behind by the big heavy quads just let me know. The most common thing we hear from new guys is "Whats the fastest way back to the truck?"
@@jaretaustin14 I'll take that offer. It wont be the fastest but I'll be towing those big bikes back to the trailhead later on
@@HGTMachining Id be lying if I said the grizzly in our group didnt just almost have to tow a renegade out last weekend. The renegade tried to take a shortcut to pass me and smacked a tree very hard and broke his fan and radiator when bumper got pushed back into them
Hi what do you think about the Quality of CF moto? I just feel like to buy it? Is this good to me ?
I've scripted a video to answer that exact question.. I hope you stick around, it will be posted in a couple weeks
@@DirtObseXXion thanks sir
2022 grizzly is appealing but I think a 700 single would be a noticeable downgrade from my sportsman 800 twin. The suspension and power pushes me to polaris and can am. I'm trading in my 800 twin for a 850/1k cc machine. My local dealer has a 2021 sportsman 850 trail for 11k and a 2020 outlander 1000 xt for 14k. So what do you think is ur choice?. Is can am really that good???
We've had 2 Sportsman 1ks and 2 Outlander 1000s... I like the ride and ergonomics of the Sportsman better but I'd get the Outlander if I had to do it again... Too many issues with the Sportsman if you push them hard.. My spent a lot of time at the dealership getting things fixed under warranty
I own a 16 srambler 1k xp and a 21 renegade 1k xxc. Hands down the renegade is better and more reliable. You will be much happier with the outlander. I just had a buddy who was going back and forth on which he wanted so I brought both out and let him ride scrambler first half the day then renegade the second half. He likes the seat better on scrambler but nothing else. He said he's ordering a new renegade next week
The Outlander 650 makes more power than what your sportsman 800 does, I'd take a look at one of those too. Probably not a lot less expensive but definitely not 14k.
My first grizzly 700 was a 2018 and was a great machine but I didn't like the 708 engine I aggressively trail rode it for 1 year in the Colorado high country on rough trails for over 1200 miles and it performed well but at the end of the year it had some things that needed to be addressed like tires, brakes, shocks ,wheel bearings and and gear box bearings but I figured this is normal wear and tear but I literally rode it hard for that time and so it was then I decided to call my local dealer and see about a trade in for a 2020 and compare prices and it was at that time that I traded for my new current 2020 grizzly 700 with 686 engine that is a better more reliable engine and the horsepower as very slightly less than the 708 but still has enough for normal trail riding and suits me just fine, I have made some upgrades to it for reliability purposes only and not really horsepower gain and it performes like a dream on rough trails, I have had alot of atvs over the years and use to race sport quads but for trail riding this is the best and smoothest most reliable machine I have ever ridden and I will continue buying Yamaha their clutch and belt system is indestructible, there way better than the competition in my opinion, so anyone thinking of getting a sport utv, you cant go wrong with the grizzly or kodiak utvs
There is zero HP difference between the 708 and 686. There's a 6% torque increase in the newer 686 due to a great box change.
@black bear No problems at all it runs great and cooler, runs better than my 2018 that had the 708 in it
@black bear 👍
I just got the base model and love the grey and yellow
Awesome dude congratulations!
I have a 2002 grizz I bought as a second quad for letting the kids or a friend ride and ended up really liking it. The quad has so much more refinement compared to my 2016 brute force. Yeah the brute has an awesome engine but the brakes and tranny pale in comparison to the grizzly. I’m not a fan of the EPS the brute either. I’m thinly of pulling the trigger on the spec’d out version of the grizz. Good video BTW.
Thanks! The Grizzly is probably my favorite 4x4 ATV and I've been very fortunate to have experienced most machines the market..
I dont think yamaha needs a 1000cc motor in the grizzly but it could definitely add another option in motor size like other manufactures do maybe like an 850 vtwin or something to help separate its powertrain from the kodiak