Yamaha Grizzly 700 | 25th Anniversary Review!
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2023
- Yamaha's Grizzly 700 has been at the top for the mountain for a long time! This video is a celebration of 25 Years of the Grizzly, and an opportunity for me to hear directly from Yamaha about the Grizzly's history.
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I’ve been doing a ton of research and thanks to your reviews I’ve settled on the Grizzly…and great news for me my closest Yamaha dealer is giving me $1500 off on a ‘23 Grizzly SE so I’ll take that as a win. Love the videos!
Thanks brother! No such thing as settling for a Grizzly, but I know you mean 😉.. Congratulations! That's an awesome deal!
@@DirtObseXXion Where is your dealer located? My two friends and I want to buy 3 Grizzly's
Where is your dealer located? My two friends and I want to buy 3 Grizzly's
You can’t go wrong with a grizzly !! I have put over 25000kms on my 2007 with no problems at all !!
Why not Can-Am?
That was awesome, dude! Honestly some of the best trails I've ever ridden and that Grizzly was dynamite all day long. Great vid, man!! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks Mike!!! I hope we get a chance to hang out again soon! Can't wait to see your video!!!
I love the Yamaha Grizzly, it's one of the best ATVs in the market, I just wish Yamaha would build a big bore sport 4x4
You don't need more horsepower. Yamaha says their atv is perfect lol.
This channel of yours keeps heading in all the right directions. Looking forward to the review on the old school Yammie
Thanks brother! I'm super excited about the moto video! Appreciate you being here!
Great job capturing the essence of the Rocky Mountains. I can almost smell the pine trees.
It's an awesome place! Short trip, but I'm definitely going to have to go back out there!
Im a first time atv owner and went with the 2023 Grizzly xtr based on watching your guy's videos and reviews. I appreciate it a lot! I live in western north Carolina and not one dealer close to my area could even get the grizzlies. Had to go to Middlesboro Kentucky to get it and that dealership had four of the xtr's. Been out on two different trail systems with it, drug piles of brush and pulled my trailer and wood splitter around with it. Loving it!
Awesome, congratulations on the new wheeler brother! I'm glad we could help! I imagine you have some great riding in that area... I'm towards Balsam Grove area to do some moto camping in a couple weeks.. Gorgeous country!!!
Looks like a great time.. Glad to see the channel still going and growing..
Wish Lando had kept hammering with ours, but not suprised..
👍👍👍
Thanks Doc! I wish Lando kept it up too, but he's got a solid foundation if he decides to get it rolling again..
What an epic video brother well done! That Colorado scenery with a fleet of new Grizzly's and the biggest media names in the business doesn't get much better. Can't wait to see you on the Moto 4!
I busted my but to get this done by Friday night so I could go to your race and then the bottom fell out of the sky! Like I told FB, we need a river day before we do anything else! Or like you said, the river needs a DO day!!!!
Great video as usual! I agree with most everything stated, it's a great machine. Looking forward to other creators take on the machine as well. Oh and that trail system...wow looked beautiful!
Thanks Joe!!! Very cool trails, Colorado is incredible
Phenomenal video as always.
Thank you!
1. the amount of work that went into this is amazing. Setting up the rider shots, editing and voice over most people don't understand how time consuming it all is.
2. That engineer went into all of the history and didn't mention once their choices in implementing bold new colors.
3. Always riding in 4x4 is a good idea. I am still struggling with having the balls to power over and get the ass loose in 4x4. I do know these things handle way worse in 2wd. But once you get comfortable with it, it really opens up your ability to ride more aggressive and get faster lap times.
4. The cvt transmission was invented before the internal combustion engine and was first implemented in the early 1900's. The belt warranty has more to do with the improvements in material qualities than any sort of engineering. Plus when you make 30hp to the wheels it's not difficult to keep belt temps and stress under control.
5. Finally... I'm calling bs with their "you peasants don't need more power" explanation. I suspect that their very political and borderline insulting explanation has more to do with emissions or the investment in tooling/assembly line. So let's be honest they're not listening to customers. How do I know? Because every review on the grizz the reviwer has to "explain to the peasants" why the atv doesn't need... more power. As far as the comment about chopping the throttle all day? More powerful atv's have adjustable electronic throttles. This is why I unsubscried from Dirt Trax. It's just a big commercial for sxs anymore.
This looked like a blast. I think I need to visit Colorado soon. Any additional footage on the trails coming?
Pheeeew.. I think I just got my a$$ handed to me.. But I have a few rebuttals... First, thanks man, this did take a lot of work, and as you know, I work full time and do this on the side, so I sincerely appreciate the acknowledgment..
The CVT, centrifugal vs flyweight and oil bathed, although there's a little sacrifice to low end pop, it's fairly maintenance free and reliable which is what most people are looking for.. That brings to my next point, you're not a common or average rider, or even in the target demographic for this machine.. You're a racer who practices at improving your ability and measures that improvement in seconds...
I was in no way obligated to Yamaha say anything in this narrative. But these reviews are prepared for our target audience which happens to be the same demographic Yamaha designs the Grizzly for.. Recreational trail riders who want a capable, reliable and fun machine to take out on weekend getaways.. So when I spoke about power, the intention wasn't to be condescending, it was only to explain that there's more to being able to ride on a trail at a spirited pace than top end.. If you need to make a pass in a field section of a GNCC race, the Grizzly isn't going to be the weapon of choice.. But if a 50something yr old fella who only gets out a couple times of year wants a machine that will let him ride for 3 days, have a ton of fun, and not have to wrench on a machine after the ride.. The Grizzly is perfect for that.. I completely understand racers need more power, not that it does much in the woods, but obviously there are sections of the track where you need it.
Unfortunately, racing just doesn't move ATV sales the way it did in the 80s. So Yamaha building something that directly competes with the Renegade probably isn't happening.. Any way, I knew this video wasn't going to make you happy 🙃 but I'll hit you up on IG regarding our other conversation..
Great video like always, thanks guys!
Thanks brother!
Just getting around to watching this, great video dude!! You were rippin the camo grizz 🤘 We have a family member that doesn’t ride much anymore that keeps his 2007 Grizzly 700 in our shed with 700 original miles on it!! I’ve ridden it once or twice and it was an amazing feeling machine with plenty of power, couldn’t imagine a newer one!
Thanks brother! Yeah the only one I haven't ridden is the OG 600.. If I could find a mint one I'd grab it!
Great video! I have the 21 xtr and i love it. The perfect machin! I agree on everything you say about the grizzly👍🏻
What a cool opportunity! Wish we had some of those 50 inch restricted trails in our part of the world. Looking forward to the retro review. I remember seeing showroom floors filled with those moto 4’s when I was a kid.
I'm very grateful for the opportunity! I can't wait to do the Moto4 video! It's such a cool piece of ATV history!
Really appreciate this vid. I'm fairly new to the ATV arena, and while the thought of getting a big boy Can-Am appeals to many (including myself in some ways)... I agree the Grizzly is just the best all-around ATV out there and what I'm leaning towards getting. Thank you for taking the time to post this.
Thanks for the kind words. I truly appreciate it! This channel is all about generating interest in and keeping folks updated on the ATV market, so if you have any questions about the Grizzly or anything else, please feel free to reach out!
@@DirtObseXXion LOL! My first question... got any connections that could get me a 2023 XTR at a discount? Ha Ha!
@noelslater822 Haha! Brother I don't have any connections that could get ME a discount! I will say though, the 24s will be out soon so if you can find a 23, you should be able to talk the dealer down a bit!
@@DirtObseXXion True dat! Fingers crossed man! Thanks!
Could not agree more on your opinions of the Grizzly just a great machine !
Thanks!
Brooo chad …killed the intro ! Awesome stuff .
I’d freakin love to attend something like that for sure ! Lol
Good ole Grizz . I have that Brett Favre 1998 edition dirt wheels magazine .
I admittedly miss the jam of my VTwin brutes and the 1000 I had .
KQ is super nice . If there’s
A new atv in my future any time soon again , prolly going to have to be a 1k Outty.
Great vid .
Thanks Joe! I pull the Raptor out when it's Jam making time! 😁
Great video bro as always definitely one of my favorites and definitely looking to getting a grizzly one day and let Tristan have that canam. Thought I recognized Case from TFL too. Thanks for video Chad say hey to the fellas
Thanks AJ! Yep, that was Kase! Super cool dude!
Another hit out the park video! I only live 3 hrs from Rampart. Makes me second guess my 2023 Can-am XTP 850 purchase from March.
Thanks! Well I really like the Grizzly but that's a great machine you have there too!!!!
Exactly video ! I have a 2020 Kodiak 700 and love riding it . Hope to have a Grizzly someday if the right deal comes along. I’m a big fan of Yamaha. They offer a excellent product.
Definitely!
Great video as always. Im a Can Am guy but I do own a 22 Grizzly 700 XTR. The more I ride it the more I like it. I understand your point about over powered machines as I prefer my XTP 850 over my XTP 1000…but I do think that Yamaha offering a v-twin 850 is a good idea. Why not? Keep the 700 the way it is and add something to the lineup, call it the Power Bruin or something like that. I understand that engineering a new ATV is not as simple or as cheap as I’m suggesting but I have confidence in Yamaha.
Yes exaclty! I just did a test ride for ATVonDemand Saturday on the XT-P 1000.. It's a great machine but there's just way more motor than chassis.. In most trail scenarios I feel faster on a Grizzly because of the weight and handling, and definitely more confident. CanAm is my big bore of choice though.. They really knock those XTP and XXC Outtys out of the park... I think Yamaha's decision not to do an 850 comes down to a few things. 1. I don't think the balance of the Grizz 700 could possibly translate to a twin. and 2. I don't Yamaha asses the market a viable enough to support R&D and production of just one twin.
The latter is the deciding factor in my opinion. However, if they were going to engineer a v-twin ATV I imagine they would make a 850 and a 1000, they already mass produce both motors..but economics rule the day, always has, always will. The only way I see it happening is a nosedive in the SXS market, forcing companies to redirect resources back to the ride on segment.
How awesome to see you get to experience my old stomping grounds! Granted I rode those trails primarily on my DRZ I did ride Rainbow Falls (connected to Rampart) on a EFi KFX400 once and it was a blast. I imagine that the Griz felt a little wide for those trails and the two way traffic was a little sketch, but the ride was amazing! I also got a little shock when I heard Pete's voice haha. Do you know if he is going to do a video? Would love to hear his "outside" opinion on the quad we already love. Did you get to ride anywhere else in CO?
Awesome trails!!! I'm sure Pete's going to do video, but I know he had a busy couple weeks scheduled.. That was the all the riding I got to do there, short trip but 100% worth it! I need to go back out on an ADV!
Awesome show as usual , I do love the styling of the Grizzly !! I do have a question on tires. Did you get a chance to ride the Grizz with the 28"grim reapers and if so, how do they compare to ,lets say the " Big horn 2.0's or The ITP Terracross tires? I ask this because I currently have the big horn 2.0's on my 2017 Polaris Sportsman 850 SP (26" ) and also run the Terracross's on my 2018 Polaris Sportsman 570 SP. I'm looking to get new tires on my 850 and have been looking for a good alternative to those 2 tires as I feel those have been pretty good for "all around" use. I am also considering replacing one of my Sportsman 570's with a Grizzly and after watching this I think I may be persuaded 🙂 It's coming down to a NEW sportsman 570, the Grizzly and the new Can am 700 ?? Decisions, decisions 🤔 First world problems 😝
Lol! I hear you, and that's a great question! I did get a chance to try the Reapers and Yamaha made a great choice on those for the terrain.. They went with 8ply 28" for the sidewall size and strength and I think they'd be a great option especially on an 850. I'd personally go smaller and lighter like a 25 or 26" 6ply because I like the machine to feel lower and save on weight.. But in this terrain, I'd compare the Reapers most closely with the Terracross.. The tread design is a little more directional, which I like, and it has the consistent contact line in the center which I believe contributes to good handling feel. I like trying a lot of different tires and if I wanted tires that big, I'd consider the Reapers a really good option... Im just not sure that they come smaller than 27"...
What a freaking vid dude! Who in the world thought you could come up with anything else to say about a Grizzly???
I’ve got one buddy on Brycen Neal’s tail and now my other is hanging with the elite Tube stars!!!!!!
Ha! We're gonna need a river day soon..
@@DirtObseXXion LOL the river needs a Dirt Obsexxion day!
i m on my 3rd grizz. 02'- 16' and now 23' awesome quad for the forest here in northern ontario. cheers.
Very nice! I'd love to grab a 98 in that black/ green and camo.. That was cool looking.. But I've had a few over the years too
I love the opening music and the videos, you guys are doing a great job?
Thank you!
Great video. For the first time in my life (and always a dream of mine) I'm going to own 2 atv's, meaning I'm going to purchase another one to go with my current 2020 Honda Rubicon 520 DCT Deluxe. I'm going to keep that Honda for a long time, but the second/other quad will be the one I will probably only keep for 3-5 years before upgrading. I loved my 2011 Grizzly 700 EPS that was stolen from me. I've had more Polaris ATV's than anything else, and I've waited and waited on Yamaha to come out with something else other than the 700. I'm still hoping they do something with their 2024 Grizzlys. I guess I always will. But if they don't, I just want a regular GREEN Grizzly 700 like the 2020 version. The last 3 years they have all kinds of funky/weird looking color options. I know you like those type of choices, but I'm more of a regular guy who just likes a good green/camo version. And their camo's having the black at the top of the headlight pod vs how they used to have camo on the headlight pod... I'm just not a fan of how they have that now. So I'll happily get a 2024 Grizz 700 if they just give us back some of the normal color choices! If not I may go used or look elsewhere. Maybe one day they'll surprise us with some more power. But it's still my favorite quad of all time at the moment.
Like I tell everyone who gets two, just be careful but they mate or something when you're not looking and before you know it the garage is full! I completely understand the color preference.. I think my favorite ever was the black and green xtr a few years ago..
@@DirtObseXXion Hahaha I'm pumped because it's going to allow my dad or brother/friends/girlfriend etc to ride with me when I want to ride for the first time. So that'll be cool. On the colors side of things, my other thought is that if you aren't going to give us a 750/800/850 or higher motor, then at least have some regular color choices for us who will stick with a 700. They haven't done that for 3 straight years now. Hope they change that and give us some regular color choices for 2024
Looks like some phenomenal riding
Premium spot for sure! Easily the most scenic trails I've ever been on!
@@DirtObseXXion With yamaha leaving snowmobiles, hopefully they will start updating their atv lineup
@justinmochi7323 The snowmobiles were just rebranded Arctic Cats though, right? I don't follow the snow market much because we don't get much snow in KY
@DirtObseXXion well whatever they were, there won't be any more of them. I think snow Trax has a video on the whole thing
Nice video! Just curious, how were suspension settings setup on these?
Thanks! I did mention that in the video, they were set on 2 of the 5 way preload which is the factory setting. I've found that to be a pretty much perfect mix of plushness while resisting any front end dive. If you were the type to really push these you might go one more click on the front, but 240lbs I can't imagine needing more preload than than that.. Thanks for checking this out!
Great video loved it! Watched Pete's also. I grew up in that area (dirt bike riding) nothing like the rocky mountains...
I'm thinking of getting another quad. Question, it seems the grizzly is about a grand more than the king quad, is it worth it? You guys seemed preety impressed with the kq also. Ive road kq's and am very familiar with them but not the grizzly.
Thanks and again great job!
KQs are pretty good.. I like the Grizzly better for trail riding especially on those kind of trails because it's handling is much better.. To me, the cost difference between them is the primary reason why a KQ would even be considered. If the difference is only a grand, im taking the Grizzly 10/10 times.. 2k or more might bring the KQ into the conversation.. But we bought both last year for the review and neither one of us wanted to keep the KQ after we were done. I ended up keeping the Grizz
Okay. Well thank you for the reply, I do appreciate it. That kind of trail riding and some dunes is what I like to do so that is very helpful. And I agree a grand isn't a big deal.
I'll start looking around for a grizzly deal.
Appreciate it!
What did you think about the 28 tires? I was going to try the 26x10 terra cross .. not many options for 27x10 out there
So, there's some personal preference here, but I like a smaller tire in general. The Reapers were a very good choice for that terrain but if it were me I'd go smaller and lighter. I'm also not really big on the square set up, I think a narrow front like an 8 or 9 is ideal. The bigger square set up looks killer but I prefer the the more precise handling of a smaller narrow tire. All that said, if you wanted a 28" 8ply trail tire the reapers would make a great option. I really like the Terracross though, I've run them a lot and they're one of my favorites, they're just a little pricey..
Cant wait for the moto video
Me neither!! I love that thing! I was so excited when I found it and it's in amazing shape!!!
How do you feel about the square wheel set up vs staggered?
I changed my front suspension to 3/5 to help with my back end flying up over woops or consecutive bumps that are common to my local terrain. Highly recommend if you're having an issue with that back end. Thanks as always for the content D.O.
Great tip! Thanks for checking out the vid!
I’m set on GBC Grim Reaper tires to replace the stock Zillas on my XTR. Should I go for a square 28x10x14 square setup like Yamaha did in this video, or narrower 27x9x14 front and 27x11x14 rear? I ride mostly hard pack.
That's a great question! I think the 10" front tires are too wide. The 9 would improve handling, and if you still wanted a square set you could still go 9 in the rear.. We have a 9" square set up on one of our 4x4s and it's a great setup. Every bit as stable, less weight, you can rotate them to prolong the life, and a little less weight.. Problem is I don't think you can get a 27 on a 14" wheel with a Reaper.. I put 12" wheels on my XTR for more tire options in smaller sizes.. But with the 14s you'll have to go up to 28 or find a different tire..
@@DirtObseXXion I don’t mind not getting reapers. I’ve also been considering Bighorn 2.0 or ITP Terracross
@@barneychamorro I'm a big fan of the terracross. I think 28s are too tall personally but it depends mostly on terrain and riding style.
Can anyone tell me if a Grizzly 700 can pop a wheelie? I'm not talking about standing on one foot with the other hooked onto the rear grab bar while hanging 50 lb. weights off the back-teehee . Can it pop a wheelie from a standstill? Thanks!
Anything to note on how the different wheel setups affect the ride for normal trail use? (Large wheel square setup vs smaller diameter staggered setup)
Absolutely! I didn't cover it in this one because talked a lot about it in our review last year and the Grizzly vs King Quad video, but I like smaller lighter tires on the Grizz... The Reapers were great for these trails but a 28" 8ply tire is more weight than I wanted to add on my Grizzly.. My personal preference is a 25 or 26" trail tire in a traditional staggered set up as opposed to square with directional tread.. It maximizes the Grizzly handling and performance..
@@DirtObseXXion thanks, I remembered something about that from the comparison video but on only a Grizzly it’s more apples to apples. Stock 25th aniv square setup slightly deterres me, but it’s not unheard of for dealers to do a couple wheel/tire swaps as part of the deal
I LOVE the look and features of the grizzly. My only concern is how close the tires look to rubbing the body panels over bumps and hard turns. The kingquad would be a second consideration.
Are the 28” tall x 10’’ wide GBC Grim Reaper tires still an upgrade over the stock zillas for all around trail riding? I do 70% hard pack and maybe 30% mud
They're better than the Zillas, but in my opinion 28" is too tall and 8ply are too heavy.. Also not a fan of square setups.. If I could choose any tire, I'd have gone with a 26" ITP terracross
@@DirtObseXXion I don’t want to buy new wheels and keep the XTR Bronze wheels for my 2024 Grizzly. I bought the Reapers like in the video. Oh man I hope I don’t regret it!
@barneychamorro I don't think you're gonna regret it.. Im speaking from personal preference and we all have different tastes.. It's good to try different things.. At some point in future, you may want to give smaller tires a shot, but it really depends on how and where you ride that determines what will work best for you 👍
Picked up a Kodiak 700 SE a year ago. Dropped in Grizzly clutch weights and swapped to Kenda Bear Claws. Both are great machines.
Definitely great machines!
what did that do to it ?
@@knightimusprime25 Makes the sheaves come together quicker as the grizzly weights are lighter helping with acceleration. You can also add a shim between the sheaves dropping the belt which will in effect give you a lower gear.
@@jbmc638 cool
How is the engine braking or hill descent control when descending a steep hill. Never really see any good videos of a controlled hill descent, always hill climbs. My old honda foreman 500 crawls down hills when in first gear, almost like walking speed, and hardly have to touch the brakes. Would really like to upgrade to a grizzly, better suspension, and little more speed. Any thoughts or videos you guys might do on hill descents?
Yeah the engine braking is good as long as you enter the descent at at reasonable speed.. Not so much that the wheels lock up, but it keeps the machine reigned in without the brakes.. Same is true for the KingQuad.. And with the centrifugal clutch, it's less wear on the belt compared to engine braking with an a dry clutch.. You won't get the "belt whine".
Well you guys convinced me! I have a 2018 canam commander 4 seater for the family, but ive hated having to navigate that big idiot in trails. I just picked up an OG 2000 grizzly 600 and i couldnt be happier. Its a dinky old ride but damnit its fun!
Lol! Congratulations on the upgrade! I'd love to find a nice OG grizz like that in good shape!
Luv the review, reliable, comfortable.....if ya wanna go fast, buy a Can Am.
Guys in general, putting 27 wheel on Grizzly instead of the 25, does it make it way easier to flip in corners since you are raising the center of gravity?
No, not Way easier.. In theory it would technically be easier but in reality it doesn't feel tippy because the 27s are also wide in front. So there's some reduced steering radius and push from the front end, but I never felt like the 27s were tippy.. I personally will always prefer a smaller tire
Nicely done! If Yamaha's not paying you, they should be😉.
👍👍👍👍👍
Lol! Yeah a little biased but I'm comfortable with giving the Grizzly it's credit... No pay checks for me 🤷♂️ Thanks Q!
@@DirtObseXXion . . . It deserves the credit. Awesome machine for sure!
Love my grizzly, I've done a lot of modifications on it to make it Texas mud ready😅👍📽
Lol! I know you have Wayne! Good to see you again brother!
Always liked the grizzly’s but I just got a sportsman 850 ultimate trail and I’m loving that. If you don’t want a twin tho I would defintley get the grizzly over the new 700 for can am.
Right on brother, at least it's a 4wheeler!
The best ATV Ever 👍
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Awesome video an channel ,hey the grizzly may not be the fastest or most powerful atv,but i bet anything that it will out last all of them,just like honda there bulletproof,throw some exhaust a tune an some other stuff an shell be a mean machine! Thanks for all your awesome knowledge
Pretty darn bullet proof! Thanks for checking us out!
I'm riding my grizzly this weekend at Durhamtown!
Nice!
Need a head to head with can am hd7pro hunting edition and xt model one has visco 4lok xt has the qe visco like to see how they ride against the 3 and how their 4wd systems work against each other
In the griz vs KQ video you mentioned when you contacted yamaha they said they didn't re clutch for the 27" tires yet in this video they say they did? Just hoping for some clarity around an XTR with the zillas vs the base griz on 26s
So Pat did say that they lowered the gear ratio for the tires, but I was told when we did the comparison that the gear ratio was the same on both models.. Im assuming that when the gear ratio was changed in 2019, which coincided with the first SE model that had the Zillas, and also the return to the Yamaha 686cc motor, was that all Grizzlies have the lowered gearing.. In our comparison we put 25s on a XTR and it felt identical to the base model with 26s.. So if they are different it's negligible.. Probably because the Zillas really aren't very heavy for how aggressive they are
@@DirtObseXXion ahh gotcha! Thanks for the insight 🤘
I agree with you 100%
The only thing they never mentioned in the history of the grizzly was the crappy 708 and the big gap in the rear trunk .
If Yamaha made a two up 850 i woukd still be a Yamaha customer.
The 2020 xtr is the best quad out of 15 ive owned
I don't think they considered the 708 a different iteration.. From what I understand it was always a temporary solution because a Tsunami had impacted the facility that produced the 686.. I had a '16 and a '22, they've made some refinements but the feeling is very similar and obviously the motor is different.. But yeah I agree, the 22 XTR I had was my favorite 4x4, my Raptor 700 is my all time favorite 😍
@@DirtObseXXion the 708 was a Subaru
@@jakemccann2790Yes, it was a Subaru engine, built in the Subaru small engine division that Yamaha bought and now owns shortly after striking the deal with them. It is the exact same engine. Most parts are interchangeable. The only difference is the actual displacement. Being 708 versus 686. Same horsepower. Same torque. To look at the two engines are virtually the same. There was a slight manufacturing issue with the rings at first that was mostly sorted out by the 2018 year. Most of the problems with burning oil or in 2016 and a few of the early 2017 models. Other than that it's the same 700 Yamaha engine. It wasn't disastrous. The majority of the engines have zero problems. Typically the only issues you're hearing about are the few guys that had it that go online. Looking for answers and complaining. Anyone that has zero issues with it usually don't go online saying so. They go on about their life as if nothing happened because nothing did.
Grizzly 700 is the best ATV!!!
I have had 8 ATVs of different brands.
Two grizzly, a 450 and a 700.
Awesome!
Had 660 griz on 28 mud lites! Was fun !
Sweet!
I wish I had them new tires for my 700 but the stock tire fit my type of riding style
Yeah, I'm a fan of smaller tires, but I definitely understand Yamaha's intention of broadest possible appeal.. It's hard to please everyone
great video. the zilla tires came on the 2019 se models and for anything but mud, i'll take the regular tires
Right, I remember the blue SE that year.. I agree, I'm a trail tire guy
I dont know why yamaha put the 10 inch wide zillas on 14 inch wheels the SE, wide front tires suck.
The 27x9x12 front and 27x11x12 rear zillas are much nicer trail tires and just as good in mud.
@nseric1233 I just had that conversation yesterday.. I like 8 up front and 10-11 rear, better steering that way in my opinion
@@DirtObseXXion The zillas for 12 inch wheels run skinny, they're closer to 8 and 10 wide not 9 and 11, that and the lack of side lugs is why they're good for trail riding. They dont grab the sides of ruts and pull you around like wide mud tires.
On trails handling is more important than motor size
100%!
Do you guys plan on reviewing the new Outlander 700?
Yeah, im gonna have to buy one, but that's the plan..
@@DirtObseXXion I bought the HD7 Hunting Edition and am loving it so far. Great features and loads of power!
@@BC_Hunter Great to hear!
Okay since I have been in full OCD mode over what to buy... and you guys are Grizzly dudes... here one maybe you can help with. Might have an opportunity to buy a very well taken care of 2019 Grizzly 700 SE with 2500 miles on it. What is the market price for used machines like this? I will lose the square set up and drop to 26's but otherwise it's in great shape!
It's hard to say exactly what it should cost because with a used machine, it depends A LOT on how it was owned. But, I'll do my best. It's 5 model years old which really doesn't matter much because it's unchanged. 2500 miles isn't a ton depending on the miles (hard riding or mud would be a negative). I'd say with that mileage, if it's perfect, I'd want to be in the neighborhood 7000-7500 tops. That's assuming it's in really good shape. I'd go a little more if it had some extras that I wanted i.e. skid plate, winch, ect. Just keep in mind that the tires will easily be $400-500 and if you're into it for 8k that's getting on the high side in my opinion.. Leave a little budget room for unanticipated fixes. The Grizzly is as reliable as they come but but under certain riding conditions, that mileage could have you replacing some wearable items relatively soon (wheel bearings, ball joints, that kind of thing).
@@DirtObseXXion thank you a ton!!!
@@jamespresnell1421 No problem brother, hope you find the perfect machine!
So many head to head reviews out there keep pushing people towards the Can-Am or even Polaris... it's got more power, it's got more travel, its cheaper... this review hopefully helps some people understand that none of that is paramount when you ACTUALLY HIT THE TRAILS.. riding a 1000 twin on those trails would be a bit ridiculous, jumping from corner to corner, praying you don't clip a tree or sidewall your tires on a rock poking out of the trail wall. To each his own, but the Grizzly is the right balance for this type of riding, that's why it hasn't changed much in 20+ years.. "if its not broken don't fix it". They've made the improvements at a calculated pace to make sure its always going to be the Grizzly you expect and that's a win in my book. The biggest advantages Yamaha holds in this category.. the best transmission on the market, the best EPS system (they invented it), the best reliability, and a true locking 4x4 system, when I want all 4 spinning, I want all dang 4 spinning, I don't want a complex system of oil and clutches to decide what tires need traction and when.. push a button and its locked.. period. Excellent video Dirt XX!! keep em' coming!
You nailed it! I'll take a Grizzly over any twin all day everyday! Thanks for the comment 👍
How many horsepower does the grizzly 700 have and how much torque?
I don't think Yamaha posts any official numbers but HP is mid to upper forties.. Not sure on torque but it's a big single so it's pretty torquey
Maybe I missed it but why don’t you guys do more information on the Kodiak you can pick up a like new two year old base model for less than half the price of a brand, new grizzly, and with a couple cheap modifications it’s… Almost as good!
That's very true! But this event was put on by Yamaha specifically for the Grizzly, so they didn't have Kodiaks there.. I made one about Grizzlies and Kodiaks shortly after this vid
I still have my 98 grizzly 600 it is all all original except the battery tires and carb mine is the green one and I got a 2000 for parts it is the tan one both bikes just have 5000 miles on them my green one just went down on me September 2022 the moter needs rebuilt the love the grizzlys I'm disabled now can't do much ❤❤❤❤
I really like the look of those 1st Gen Grizzlies.. I wish you still enjoy them, thanks for the comment!
The Grizzly is a very nice machine, but I would still like to see a bit more power. I don't want or need a 1000, but a 750 to 850 Twin would be great!
Completely understand that, I just feel like the balance would suffer from the addional weight of a twin..
@@DirtObseXXion Too big of a motor might do do that, but a motor like the 750 Brute force would not hurt the balance at all In my opinion, and it would give the Grizz a more fun factor.
Hull ya brother straight for the base camo grizz, that's where it's at.
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Been waiting four months and even called Yamaha. When is the 25th anniversary edition going to be released.
I saw the video on the 25th Anniversary edition but I'm not sure if that was a limited release or what.. At this point the 24s should be coming out in a month or so..
Great stuff, love the Grizz. Imo if Yamaha goes with a twin leave the Grizzly alone and come out with an all new from the ground up machine designed for the twin cylinder motor.
As long as a version of the Grizzly is left as is, I'm all for it.. I just love singles, easier to ride and 10× easier to maintain.. Ive always felt like I could ride them faster in twistier trails which is way more fun than flat open runs..
@@DirtObseXXion I agree with you, I have a twin but it's a Brute so it's a good bit lighter than the 850s and 1000's so very nimble on trails. I find myself actually wanting smaller machines for 90 percent of the riding I do. I just can't utilize the power and size for what I do.
@@DirtObseXXion Actually Im gonna sound like a clown but I have had the most fun lately ripping trails on a Brute Force 300 I bought for my son in June. I can't believe how much pep this thing has for it's size, and combined with a solid axle in the back it's like a cvt sport quad almost. I flog this thing in the 50 inch trails and it's a blast, so much lighter than big 4x4 to, you really notice on the front end to without having a diff and axles up front. My point is it's not always about mega hp, there's something to being lighter and more nimble to that's pretty dam fun.
@@rzl07375 That's exactly right 💯... You should see my face on that Moto4! Friggen ear to ear grin
if ya havent tried em yet you should get a set of those sedona coyotes i got a set of those yesterday for the ole 400 they did pretty good for the most part but i got stuck in some loose gravel both little and big stuff even 4wd didnt get me out of it of all things to get stuck in i got stuck in fuckin gravel LOL but otherwise they did good id say they'd do good out there where ya were
Good to know, I've never tried them before..
@@DirtObseXXion nothin stoppin ya from tryin em lol
Any word that they will keep selling the sport ATVs?
Yep! No plans to stop producing sport machines... If that segment fails it will be 100% the fault of government regulations on emissions
@@DirtObseXXion they government needs to stay the fuck out of it they arent wanted nor needed
@@DirtObseXXionwell for the uninformed, lol, are we close yet?
@brutelife9177 I hope not.. But we're supposedly going to see big changes in the automotive industry in the next 10-15 years... So hopefully we're not all telling our grandkids how cool ATVs used to be..
Grizzlies are great machines. I wouldn't mind owning one. But I don't think it would tempt me to go riding like my Brute does. I average 3500 miles a year on trails very similar to these in this video, and I only do that because the Brute is thrilling to ride. Until Yamaha gets a machine that's a little more exciting, I'm sticking with Kawasaki.
Right on, unfortunately it's looking like you'll have to stick with used BFs from now on.. Unless Kawi has something up their sleeve..
@@DirtObseXXion Just got a new one so I'm covered for a few years.😉
@@utahwanderlust700 nice!
Yamaha should release a retro moto 4 200. I had a 1985 200 and rode the wheels off of that atv several times. Lol
Lol! I couldn't pass it up when I saw it! I'm excited to see some folks express interest in it!
Why not just 5 more hp , something to really seal the deal when deciding between the other atvs in the 700 class , just a bit more not much 55hp would be fantastic
Yeah I hear that, it's very easily achieved in the aftermarket tho.. There's plenty of power to uncork.. My Raptor got a huge performance gain with the big 3 💪💪💪
I’d still take the aging Brute Force over this. It’s cheaper and has more power. And even tho it’s been unchanged after all these years it’s still fun to ride. That’s not to say the grizzly isn’t a nice machine. It’s just personal preference.
Yeah, be interesting to see if Kawi brings the BF750 back, but as of right now, it's gone.
I got a can am outlander max xt in 2020 because the yamaha has no 2 up version... Otherwise I would of went with Yamaha, I love the grizzly but I need a 2 up.
Yep, no doubt about it.. If you're riding 2up, there's no substation for 2up built machine.. Hopefully someday you can just get two Grizzlies 😁
More power has never been my issue with the Grizzly. Im not comfortable on them. The handlebars are too low, and the seat is uncomfortable. If the Grizz had the Polaris ergonomics, there would be one in my garage.
i also own a 19' wolverine x2 and i measured the width of the 850 motor compared to the 686 motor and think it would be too wide between your feet. don t get me wrong that 850 would be sweet in the grizz🤟
Yeah no doubt about it, it would be more than just mounting a twin in the current chasis.. That's why I'm afraid it would get thicker and heavier and lose the Grizzly feel
The Grizzly is definitely a great machine…..if Can Am didn’t make Renegades I would be riding one
Right on! There's some great machines out there, I've just always connected well with the Grizzly
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🎉 LOL! Appreciate you bein here! I hope you enjoy it!
@@DirtObseXXionheck yah! Super awesome and informative video. Killer quality and definitely took some serious time to make!
We don’t need a 25th anniversary grizzly !! We need a 850 or 1000 grizzly !!
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Why ? Go buy sumthin else.
@@TKinMB I did !! I have owned 3 grizzlies !! Great quads!! But they need a up date
Meh I don’t know about that. My Griz 700 has more than enough power. With a bigger engine comes more weight.
Caught between the grizzly, new canam 700 or another Arctic Cat Alterra 600.
Decisions decisions 🤔.. My 2 cents is to try the Grizzly or CanAm out and see how they compare to the AC..
@@DirtObseXXion My youngest daughter loves the new canams. My oldest wants a new Alterra like her moms. I just ride my defender 6x6.
Suzuki , Yamaha , Honda and kawisaki wheelers go by , If it’s not broke don’t fix it
Well Kawasaki just dropped the BF750.. So maybe 🤷♂️.. But Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda all updated machines fairly recently.. I'd say the Grizzly is due but it's still so good..
As for the other manufacturers ditching thier bread and butter machines to try thier hand at the mid bore segment .....good luck , hunting grizzlies is no easy task
I agree, dangerous gamble to enter the Grizzly maze! 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe Yamaha will come out with a 108hp Grizzly 1000 with an electronically controlled Ultramatic CVT, a locking torque converter rather than a wet clutch, fully adjustable suspension...no, make that electronic active suspension (like polaris dynamix), throttle by wire with multiple power settings, RMAX 1000 front styling, and a can am inspired gauge cluster rather than a light pod.
🤣 No way! But we can always dream 🤪, hopefully Yamaha will bite back at Can am after taking a chunk out of their market.
It would cost 25k! I'd love to see Yamaha get a little jabby with Polaris and CanAm and show them up at their own game.. But in reality I think they're just a more mature company that appeals to a more sensible market... But it's like that quiet martial artist who could totally f@%$ them up if they wanted too..
@@DirtObseXXion Yep totally agree 😂.
It might not be 108hp but I love my Grizzly 550!
Thought the place looked familiar
What about the yamaha tri moto? LOL Anyways, I think most people will be sold on warranty and service of a dealer or company. JMO. The atv's are getting very similar and very capable.
I just missed out on the tri-moto! Same guy had one, but it wasn't in as good of shape as the 4... K!lln people is apparently harder on a machine 🤣🤣🤣
@@DirtObseXXion Shaft drive way back then! ua-cam.com/video/v8N5ddglODM/v-deo.html
It would be cool to see Yamaha stick with the 700 and add a supercharger or turbo charger instead of following the industry in to the heavier v twin.
Definitely would never see that and you would never want that because there would go your reliability factor instantly
@@jasonmorehouse3756 I wouldn’t say never, but I don’t disagree…it’s highly unlikely in my opinion. Turbo 4-stroke snowmobiles are very reliable but you’re also talking about multi-cylinder machines, but they’re also heavy as shit and expensive.
a 750 v twin is all they need to do with this setup
More weight and less agility for a marginal increase in power..
they should hire a locksmith for all the key problems they're having 😂
I jest... solid review!
Lol! You're crazy
Wish it was still all about atvs unfortunately it’s most of the younger crowds still on atvs. Some older folks but mostly the young ones and so at my age, if your still on an atv, the older crowds on sxs will kinda let you know it’s time to grow up 🤣🤣🤣
That's the saddest sh!$ I've ever heard.. Probably the same folks say kids are too soft
@@DirtObseXXion yeah I’m in the south so if you’re familiar there’s a lot of sxs riding and it usually the older crowd. I’m still on my xmr outlander 1000 I’m 46 now and yeah in my group im the only one left on an atv. Don’t get me wrong many my age still on atv but majority in a sxs. I’m here in sw Florida so it all muddin. The taller the better
@paulgarcia6257 Yeah SXSs are the thing in KY too..
@@paulgarcia6257 I will never grow up!! LOL!!!! I'm 59 and still riding an ATV. Definitely the last of the Mohicans in our group but I just keep telling them I'm not ready to drive a glorified golf cart. Lol!!!!
Iv been told everytime i ask that Yamaha fourwheelers are unreliable, difficult to work on, and the worst quad for the money. My question is if i had to get a honda or Yamaha which would be better.
All Japanese OEMs are reliable and anything can break under enough pressure.. You should get whichever machine has the performance and features you're looking for.. A Grizzly 700 and a Honda Rubicon are about as different as possible. To tell you arbitrarily one over the other simply by brand is not advice, it's bias..
Nothing about how Yamaha ripped 1000’s of people off by selling the lemon 708. I bought a 2017 grizzly 700 se and 3 times in 8000kms I’ve had the motor done!!!! I was a die hard Yamaha guy for 30 years and I’ll never give them another penny of my money with how there head office done nothing to make my situation right!!! 2023 Polaris 850 is my next bike!!
Man I hate to hear that for you.. I thought they had the issue resolved in the second half of 16. The 686 is bulletproof, the 708 was definitely a dark era. If you're going bigger I'd strongly consider the Outlander 850 XTP over the Sportsman. We've had two of the XP1000, they both were riddled with issues. I say the XTP because the shocks on the base and XT don't last very long.
@@DirtObseXXion yah it definitely left a bad taste in my mouth, so much so that I refuse to buy the 686 even tho I know it’s probably the best bike out there for the price!! Thanks for the reply I will definitely have a look at the can am
@@DirtObseXXion I also called the dealership that I’ve been buying Yamahas at for the last 20 plus years just to see what they would give me on a trade for a new bike and of course they came in with the lowest trade in value on the lemon they sold me. $5500 to $6000 for my 17 grizzly. Every other atv dealership offered me $7000 to $7800. Yamaha are the worst to deal with and I hate to switch brand’s as I absolutely love the older Yamaha bikes and there 686 but sometimes customer service is why people buy or don’t buy!!
They didn't actually rip thousands of people off with the 708 Yamaha fully honors repairing the 708 for free. They have actually even done it past the expiration date of that offer. Not only that, but it didn't affect all. The 708's was very limited more than 2016, a few in early 2017 and very very few in 2018. But out of the hundreds of thousands of those 708 engines they sold, you only hear about a few from the people that went on the forums and stuff complaining about them. You don't hear anyone going on bragging about the ones that didn't have issues because there's no reason to. So the problem is not anywhere near as large as what it seems. When you only hear one side of the story, you obviously don't know the whole story.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 Exactly; when people cry too loud about their negative experiences, I toss their opinions aside. People that don’t come to social media to share their negative experiences are out riding…and there is definitely more of them. Find a manufacturer that produces a 100% problem free machine 100% of the time.
If they would throw a V-Twin in the grizzly, id buy one today.
Well, like I mentioned I like it the way it is so I hope it doesn't get replaced.. But I acknowledge there's a lot of folks out there who want more..
Why didn't Yamama leave those shitty Zillas on those bikes for this event? Premium bike rolling on garbage tires that are left to the consumer to replace. Sorry but it's a sore spot for me, it feels like being taken advantage of.