Fender: TONE MASTER PRO - A First Look
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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This video was shot just before the official release of the Fender Tone Master Pro and does not show interface with the Pro Control Editor, however it may give you a reasonable idea of some of the great sounds that are to be had with this machine.
There's another video of mine on this channel where I break down a couple of presets which are yours to download for free. See: • Fender: TONE MASTER PR...
Today's tools:
Guitar: 2021 Charvel Custom Shop Select So-Cal HSS FR.
Amp: Various models - Tone Master Pro
Cables: BOSS
Strings: Ernie Ball Paradigm 10-46
Mic: Audix USA PDX720 (See: audixusa.com/p...
Camera: GoPro HERO10 + Sony ZV-1M2 x 2
Soundcard: PreSonus Quantum
Desktop Monitors: PreSonus R80 R-Series Active AMT Studio Monitors (www.presonus.com)
Headphones: Audio Technica ATH-M50x (see: www.audio-tech...)
Computer: 2017 Apple iMac Pro, 2.5 GHz 14-Core Intel Xeon W, 64 GB 2666 MHz DDR4, Radeon Pro Vega 64X 16 GB
I’ve had all the big brand modellers. A few months ago, a musician mate played me some of his own material. I asked how he’d got the great guitar sound, he said it was the Boss GT100 I’d sold him a few years before. I sold everything and bought a Boss GT1000. It’s not what you got, it’s how you use it. 👍
Looking forward to more Tone Master videos from you, Brett! 👍
I literally just found out about you last week when i was in the weeds about programming the AxeFx3. Your articles (especially the dad jokes, a lot of people know I spilled the beans recently) and patches were super useful! I decided I wanted a floor modeler for local shows. I hesitantly pulled the trigger on this today after carefully considering the QuadCortex, FM9, Helix, and Kemper Stage. To hear your words at the end, especially knowing with how much you know about modeling, really made me feel more comfortable in my purchase. I really thought it was well designed, built well, and sounded great from the Andertons video. For someone who’s gigged tube gear the most, this Fender product looks like it will be a good medium ground from my 65’ DRRI and AxeFx3. The AxeFx3 sounds great, but you really need to understand modeling and real gear well to make it sound great. It’s been a black hole of research for me since I’ve gotten it haha. Thanks for the great work you do for the guitar community, I’m a fan 🤘
Happy to help. Thanks for watching!
It reminds me of when the Fender cyber twin came out. Lots of excitement!
People hate those cyber twins. I thought they sounded good
Want the downfall of the cyber series the motorized pots?
@@Place_to_keep_videos Yeah, that was one of the downfalls. It was also very expensive at launch, well over $1000. Keep in mind, that's 2001 money! Fender introduced it as their flagship, despite offering poor support for it, and not updating it over time. I took one in on trade years ago. Didn't sound bad especially for the cleans, but didn't sound great either. Modern day modelers are far more advanced. Hopefully Fender learns from their previous mistakes with it, the competition is fierce.
Hi Brett. Love your playing. I sold my QC last week and my new TMP arrives today. From what I have seen so far beyond the sound, I love that it has the Scribble Strips. You can always see where you are with things. God bless you and all you love.
A couple of centuries ago I was blown away by what I believe to be the first floor processor for guitars, the Boss ME-5. I sold all my pedals, I bought the ME-5 and it allowed me to so much, I loved it! It was intuitive and I used it for 9 or 10 years.
Then I went back and forth, using a bunch of pedals (and amps of course) and digital stuff. But for the last 20 years I’ve been using pedals exclusively. Building a new pedalboard every now and then. Using real amps.
I have bought a couple of digital devices through the years for recording purposes. But this is the first time I get a bit of that feeling when like when the ME-5 came out. I genuinely feel tempted. I’m not there yet. I mean I invested in the right amps and the right pedals and guitars to be as good and as versatile as it can be for my own situations, which was a journey and a puzzle. It was easy when I played the larger venues and had roadies to do the hard work for me. But now I almost exclusively play in bars and other smaller venues. And again, I invested in that transition. It took time and money, but I had a lot of fun in the process and I love what I have and where I’m at. But this thing speaks to me.
At this point though, I’d only be willing to add it to what I already have. I don’t want to make the same mistake again that I made a number of times before, meaning selling most of my gear to afford the new stuff, only to find out that it doesn’t do what I hoped it would. It only worked once. The first time, when I bought the ME-5. And this does give me the same vibe, even though it’s vastly different. 🤔
My first one was the ME-6. I went to work hard in civil construction for 15 days in holidays and bought it brand new in a store in Lisbon. Was really good!
Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹
Who knew they were making modelers in the 1800s😂.
@@easye9-21 : 🥴
@@easye9-21 😂🍺
I also bought the ME-5 when it came it out, and I still have it. I enjoyed it very much and if I have to join a band for only one or two gigs, I rather take the ME-5 with because of its simplicity. Besides the ME-5 I now have a 2nd hand Fractal AX-8 but use it only in my homestudio. That’s a great “machine” but as a rookie it’s not easy to program a good sound, it takes quite some time. The TMP looks easier to use but I no longer wanna buy such expensive stuff. I maybe should have done it if I hadn’t the AX-8.
Excellent job man!!!! Brilliant review of a really deep platform. Fender did a number here.
I'm really impressed with fender on this one.
Thanks for all your videos. My TMP is coming Thursday and it looks to be a great unit.
Mine comes Thursday too. I was one of, if not the first to order from Sweetwater, this morning. :)
I ordered mine around 9am and even got a nice little discount :). Enjoy the tones!!!
You beat me Doc, I ordered mine about 10:30. @@DoctorMcFarlandStudios
well done, this is the best one I've seen!
I’ve been following you for years , and your reviews are my bible for buying gear , and I’m familiar with Fractal , Line6 , Quad Cortex , but I think this has friendlier/ user interface and is simpler all around for an old guy like me , It sounds good , I may buy one , cheers from Boston 🍻
Very cool, very cool. I'll be saving my quid
Love it, getting one tomorrow, sounds wicked!
heard of NAM?
Love your work, Ben. Thoroughly enjoyed this review as well as your guitaring.
09:17 That clean sound really tempts me to get one...Nice demo!!
Ok, up front, I'm a big Fender tube amp guy; who recently had 9 amps stolen in an outside studio break in. I can NOT afford to replace what I once had as the investment capital needed well exceeds my current earning potential and budget. So, I'm looking at this as a next best replacement option for those classic amp losses. $1,700 may be steep in a normal situation, but I am seeing it as a cost savings of around $15 Grand to my wallet. It frees up square footage, electric bill, cooling costs as well. Those amps when fired up in multiples, throw a ton of heat into the room. So, I've ordered mine to park it on my desk to run direct to DAW. It just makes sense for my current needs.
Kind of wonder at this price range what competition is going to be effected the most. The quad cortex has tone capture and normal modeling but the TMP does not have the tone capture. The UI is easier for sure than the Fractal system but Fractal has way more amps and IRs. Seems to me that if Fender supports this product with updates in both features and fixes that Fractal will be most affected in new sales to newbies to the modeling world. What do others think?
Reminds me of the iPB10 , digitech dropped the support like a hot scone
Grande Brett. Sei il meglio
It looks the guts. The UI seems really well thought out and the rear is well appointed.
So It's down to tones and feel.
The dual purpose switches are a nice simplifying touch..... quality? could be the Archilles heel
Thanks man great review and thanks for clean and crunch review usually get mostly Distortion you did a great job man they should hire you to do official demo
Seems like one hell of a piece of gear. Here's hoping Fender will launch an equally slick and lower-priced, "junior" version for the consumers who don't have $1,700 burning a whole in their pocket to snap one up!
Just subscribed to your channel after watching quite some videos from you. I rather don’t reply on videos but you showed the best demonstration so far I have already seen. Most others are making videos to show their guitar techniques from the Northpole to the Southpole and with an speed like a passing F16. You do it much humanly and this way it’s funnier to listen and to make a decision. I grew up with the sound of The Shadows but until today I haven’t seen a video of any modeller yet HOW they can bring that typical Hank Marvin sound. If I am correct he used a Vox AC30, the Stratocaster and a Binson echo chamber, and this it. So my question, can you let us hear if you can make that sound (eventually compared with the the original sound from CD) ? Many thanks in advance. Greetings from Belgium 🇧🇪
The switches seem to be very close together. I'm guessing that you'll need to take careful aim rather than just throw your foot in the general direction.
Same distance as the FM9. The QC’s are closer.
Too mutch expensive! Crazy money! For mutch less money, BOSS GT-1000 does it all, and in some cases even more!
Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹
Sounds good. WaIting for the Tone Master Pro vs Axe FX video.
Upgrades and Updates, MORE Amps. Bass stuff, But most of ALL WE WANT a MAGNATONE no modeller has one YET!!!! And the PITCH SHIFT VIBRATO!!!
Im interested how it compares to fractal on the long run..
best Demo guy, Brett rules !
I don't mind how it sounds at all, I'm sure it's got a ton of even further possibilities, I'm welded to an old multi effects unit that not even this wonderful new contraption could convince me to retire, it took me a long time to refine and personalise the tweaks and it already wrecks a lot of boutique rigs, I'm asked how did I get it to that point and will I share the settings please......sorry!
Damn that sounds GOOD !... might sell my golf cart to get one.
sounds great, I didn't see where to download the free presets?
I think they're on the last clip mate.. just press the more button under the heading.
😎👍👍
Except for the price😉
😎✌👍❤🖖
wow!!
Sounds and looks great but its too mutch expensive.
For the same money i can buy a Marshall studio Silver Jub + the Marshall matching 2x12 cab + a Boss Me-90 to connect in 4cm...
Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹
How are you liking the fender TMP compared to the boss GT1000.
Interested to know how it compares to the Headrush Prime. Had a flick through the manual and it looks like the Tone Master Pro might be able to apply FX to the mic input? IF so that seems like a pretty great addition to an all in one solution (depending on output routing).
Nice
Yikes! Only 22 years after the Cyber Twin, we get an update?
Have you done the Fender Mustang LT50 modelling amp yet, or the BOSS Katana. Would love you thoughts on these?
Katana, yes several. Here's one: ua-cam.com/video/l3Xg1Yyl5uo/v-deo.html. Mustang: Only the GTX50: ua-cam.com/video/Jr6A78oLQYM/v-deo.html
Nice 😻😻😻😻
Does it do capture/profiling of amps and pedals? For the price it better.
Still waiting for voice side demonstration , grab a mic add effects sing & play guitar
will you do a demo on NAM- the Neural Amp modeller taking the world by storm?
Probably not. When I asked to help at its release they dismissed me as just another UA-camr. 🤣 That says a lot to me about the company.
@@BrettKingman I dont think its a "company"..lol just a bunch of nerds led by a very competent and brilliant coder Steve Ack..Its certainly making waves - seems like they wanna keep it under the radar..
@@BrettKingmanare you confusing them with Neural DSP?
NAM is an open source project that’s completely free and is being developed by a bunch of nerds and coders. It is using AI tools developed by google for speech recognition and repurposing it to profile guitar amps and pedals. In null tests done it blows Kemper and Quad Cortex away and is also better than Tonex
Pedalera para ricos con sonido plastico y sonido de fondo
Con buen marqueting
No sabe ni mierda de este equipo y ya habla basura. La ignorancia va de la mano con la pobreza.
Any chance of a Fractal shootout?
No point, really. Different machines aimed at a different user. Sounds of amp and pedal models will be similar but the interfaces, tweakability and depth of editing facility are markedly different. I think there's a market for both.
@@BrettKingman I understand the the Fractal will be a lot more in depth editing wise. I'm just curious to how close similar models sound between the two. I love my Fractal, but this looks like it may be a good option for couch playing or when I take trip.
TM Pro or Helix
Helix
sorry guys but this thing sounds ugly to me, badly compressed attack and no air for the release, a big sh...
I’ve been watching all the demos and I feel like I’m being gaslit by all my favorite UA-camrs. Sounds like a Boss GT-1000 to me (that’s not a good thing). Other than good form factor/UI, not sure how it competes at this price.
I am with you on the gaslighting. I think this thing sounds bad compared to fractal or even L6 with tone matched IRs
UA-cam compresses de videos.
Can you setup the footswitch to have the dim LED (example orange for compressor) when the pedal is on bypass, so it's easy to see by color what stomp to hit? and then when it's active it turns bright.... Like my Helix does. Is that possible? My eyes suck and i'm not sure if I can see the pedal/fx name all the time.
I don't believe so - yet. I've also requested enabling secondary 'hold' functions for each footswitch. It shouldn't be too difficult to implement in future FW.
@@BrettKingman I did see on another video there is the option for selecting an LED color for both On and Off... However I think both are the same brightness. I think I can work with that. Got one on order. Will see
Great idea and tones until the PCB board components start craping out then you find out you can't replace the board or they don't have the part just like line 6 .
What are you actually trying to say? I believe all modelers are pcb based and "unrepairable" for the most part...
@@Driftuner That is the point. Things are being made that technicians can't repair.
So I would rather just have a pedal board. If one pedal goes you still have the rest.
Sounds good but I'm not sure I'd pay 2300$ in Canada for it...
If only this unit could drive a passive speaker - onstage you are at the mercy of a sound "engineer" - played some festivals over the past couple of years and you never know what sort of sound you're going to get - if this unit could drive a cab, no matter what happens to the sound from the board, onstage you can hear yourself the way you want... would be curious to hear this unit live with one of the Laney FRFR units that Guthrie Govan is gushing over. He switched to a Fractal based rig and says the Laney FRFR feels like a passive cab... maybe with the evolution of FRFR speakers, the need to drive a passive speaker will be eliminated....
Why is EVERYONE demoing this SO WET! Holy delay and reverb!
I honestly didn't think this unit sounded that good at all and certainly not in the class of the Axe FX that you normally demo.
I am probably in the minority but I don’t think it sounds that great based on the demos I have seen so far.
No thanks.
Don't trust Fender to support their products. I'll pass.
Hard pass at $1700.
It costs the same as the Helix, & QuadCore. Cheaper than a Axe FX 3.
@SwingingCreeper Fender might have been able to blow the competition away if they priced it lower and sold a lot more units. I get it, though. I suppose they dont want to cut into their own amp market, perhaps.
Yeah but L6 supports it’s products for years and years a track record that fender has the opposite of when it comes to digital.
Este producto fracasara. Cuesta la mitad y aun asi no suena real. Demasiado digital y sin pedal de expresión....
The drives sound like crap to me. Like a 1997 Zoom pedal.
Have IR ?
Yes, you can pop your own in and the onboard factory IR's are already very good.