Stock Cummins VS Deleted Cummins
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2018
- Hey guys, making a video for those of you looking to see how a stock cummins runs VS a deleted cummins. The difference is pretty significant as you will see. Both trucks are 2016 ram 2500 diesels.
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Nice to see someone pumping out content in my neck of the woods.
Nate Mountford absolutely man we all should meet up sometime
Mines getting deleted the first of September , love the video.
Michael Guebara thanks so much man!! I’m going to be doing a video here very soon on how to delete. Thanks for watching!! Like and subscribe. God bless
Great video guys. Mine's done and holy moly it was worth every penny. Somethin some guys are asking about is mileage. Mine went from 16-17 empty to 21-22. Look forward to your next video.
No times
No MPG
Is a good video but I was hoping for more data in it! Thanks for sharing.
Rayado Uno thanks man and I apologize I work as a nurse in the ICU full time and it’s hard to find time to edit and get more footage for you guys. But thanks again for watching!
What kind of 30" light bar and brackets are you running? Looks nice
where did you get the bypass kit or where was it done ?
Looked like a fun video to make.
I would like to know more about the delete. Thanks for sharing
HealthJeeps &Guns hey man thanks for watching!! I made another video on my deletes which I performed on my truck. Check it!! God bless!!
That's cool.
What’s your guys wheel and tire setups? Leveled?
where did you get the light bar in the bumper, and what brand? I plan to delete my 15 cummins this winter i plan to go with double r diesel Ive heard nothing but good things about them
c c hey man the lightbar came with the truck when I bought it. Let me double check what brand it is for you, and oh yeah I don’t blame you. Ray is awesome, check out my other video i just put up. I ordered my deletes from HPP. Going to try those guys out and then make a comparison video. Thanks for watching man! I was in my buddys truck yesterday and you will love the trans tuning, it is unreal!!! God bless
A 30hp tune is the reason he’s fast
You didn’t mention how much stuff gets removed from underneath or within the chassis. Overall you’re removing 200+ lbs of weight from the truck which is insane. That alone can give you 1/2 mile per gallon back lol.
I have a 2016 rame 2500 i bought it with egr delete. But i dont see any tuner does that mean its not tuned how would I found out? If its not tuned should I buy a programmer
Off topic, but what light bar is that on the white dodge? @alex Kobert
Roy of the Run it’s a rough country light bar
Yea glad you two stuck with showing both trucks, deleted and non deleted...cool hearing the differences in the engine sound but hearing that deleted Cummins running at idle, sounds soooo badass lol obviously tho..but if this were two different videos with each truck, it would be harder to hear each truck in 2 different videos compared to each being in 1 video.
K WinChronic absolutely man love both trucks for sure. Hey check out my other videos,I actually just deleted mine! Thanks for the comment and watching god bless!
@@alexkobert_4746 yea no doubt dude and thanks for the response.. But I'll forsure check out them other videos of yours brother man 👍
Yeah she sounds like a Dyna Pac roller, the Cummins are pretty noisy to start with.
Great Yinzer accents. Makes me miss my Washington, PA days.
Where in sc did you go to get lighter in looking to do the same . I have a 2018 2500 on 295 70 18s
Impressive!
Nice 👍 good job 👍
I deleted the whole exhaust on mine. Sounds sicckkkk
Fla Ga the rest stock? Probably sounds like trash
Great video. But 1 question that you didn’t touch in. MPG.
What’s the MPG of the stock VS deleted ?
K Tiem hey man I got another video that shows the fuel mileage on my stock truck but now that my truck is deleted i will be making another video here soon on the difference in fuel mileage 👍
I just deleted my 2018 ram 2500. Running highway at 75-80 mph I get 22 mph. Running 295/70r18 wildpeak allterrains which is pretty identical to a 35” tire
What the difference in fuel mileage?
Guys need to understand it’s not the delete that makes your power it’s the tune.... simply taking off the emissions and straight piping isn’t gonna give power, it’s all in the tuning. You can take a fully stock emissions equipped truck, pay for the same tuning module, and the preset maps/dyno time and make that same +30hp, +60hp, +90hp... etc. either way no matter if it’s deleted or not you don’t want to tune it for more than 450hp without getting the transmissions some mods. Plenty of stock trucks out there though making 450-500hp with no deletes. Change the turbo, or add a second turbo and ofcourse necessary engine/trans mod and easily go 600-650hp with emissions intact..... but what you do get with an emissions free truck... no more stupid regents smelling up the cab, causing more heat, def fluid can be a thing of the past, cleaner oil which in turn means a better chance of that engine going a very long time
erik pollnow I agree man, it’s the tune 100%. I like the sound and I was sick of getting codes from the egr so that’s why I chose to delete it. Transmission tuning is key as well
I'd never trust a truck that's tuned with the filters on it
You mentioned having a leveling kit.
I have a Rough Country 3" full coil kit with included shocks on my 6.7 2500 4wd.
The ride is bone jarring. Have you heard of anyone trying different shocks to try improving the ride?
I can drive over a quarter and tell you if it's heads or tails.
Thanks in advance.
brad truelove hey man! Yeah I noticed the front is a little rough going over bumps. I did hear of people switching to fox shocks which helped majorly. Obviously that stuff comes with a price but the ride difference is incredible!! Thanks for watching man! God bless!
@@alexkobert_4746 I'm going to research the Fox's in addition to the Bilstein 5100 series.
I wan't to maintain it's towing characteristics.
Thanks for the input and Bless you as well.
@@bradtruelove for bilstein go with the blue and yellow 4600. 5100 is designed for gassers. At least that's what someone told me
Hey man I have a 6” rough country it was pretty bumpy...if ya don’t wanna spend 2k on shocks try a different set of tires and air down to 50-60 unless your towing..it makes a huge difference. Your tpms light will be on but it’s worth it. And if your tuner lets you ya can change the settings
If you can tune down your low presure fuel by 1
My tune on the low presure fuel gose from 1to5 it was factory set at 5 so had some coal on lift off. I roled it back by one cut the black smoke on take off quite a bit and lift off is great
Sorry, I meant to say that the low-pressure fuel was factory set at 3. I rolled it back by 1 to two. That cut the black smoke on lift-off to zero or almost zero and the lift-off I never noticed any change. So I'm not pissing anyone off in stop-and-go traffic. Please get an after-market cold air intake kit. That engine has to breathe.
I have the same tuner and had a 6” tip installed for $1600 and I can run 0-60 in around 4.5 seconds just spool up before take off and the power will be instant, usually do it when racing and 4x4 high you will beat a lot of sport cars Camaros mustangs older corvettes at the 1/8
Claudio Pedraza that’s awesome man!! HPP makes some awesome tunes!! Thanks for watching god bless!
I have 2015 3500 dully i'm looking to do the delete what u recomend me Claudio Pedraza necesito ayuda de personas que sepan
Josue Pagan I reccomend ez lynk by HPP and a flo pro 5 inch turbo back exhaust👍
@@alexkobert_4746 thanks brou
What's impressive is just how fast these trucks really are with the weight they're moving.
Does he like the MM3 ? Cause I was going to get that , but ordered EZLYNK instead.
Was this filmed just north of Washington PA?
Stuart Grimes within the area man
Not far from Pittsburgh
Not to mention the soot not going into your intake from that stupid egr.
One thing to consider, depending on the mileage determines the chatter. I had a 2015 SLT & noticed the engine got louder once I hit 15k miles on it. When I traded it in w/ 18k on it I ran it next to the new 2018 Laramie I ordered & the 2015 had more engine chatter.
Great video, love the stars & bars hanging from ur buddies rear view mirror. 🤟🏻😁👍🏻
Rollin’ Coal that’s awesome man!! How do you like your 2018?? And I appreciate the comment man!! Stay tuned for my delete video coming up soon just waiting on my ez lynk to come in!! God bless!!
Alex Kobert_47 I love it, I picked it up in March & already have 2,600 miles on her! (She’s not a daily) I will say the stats are pretty accurate regarding the transmissions & the difference in HP & torque, my ‘15 was a automatic & the ‘18 has a manual, the manual is def de-rated, doesn’t have the get up & go like the automatic did. The plan is to delete, exhaust, manifold, intake, air horn, tune & level her. I should pick up some HP & torque doing that.
Rollin’ Coal that’s awesome man and yeah I noticed the automatics have more Torque but atleast you just have to put a clutch in it and that’s it. I got to spend some money to rebuild the transmission. I’m gonna run the ezlynk with HPP tunes and a 5in Flo Pro tbe. I just want to delete it so bad man. My buddys 16 manual is deleted and it runs sooo well man, you will love it!!
Alex Kobert_47 yeah, no doubt brother. Def gonna get her a South Bend clutch before I tune her.
My son has a 5.9 24 valve automatic, he had a guy over in jersey beef up his trans for $2k, shifts like it’s got a pair of balls now, the guy did a great job.
Rollin’ Coal that’s awesome man!! I’m glad you guys are having a good time working on the trucks. Best thing to spend your money on rather than drugs these days
Can't wait to delete my 2016 2500. Good video
Philly Avila thanks man!! The ez lynk should be in this week, gonna delete her probably this week or next week!! Thanks for watching and god bless!
Lol the way yins talk in p.a
Thanks I appreciate it!
Towing. Have you done a comparison towing a trailer? his truck vs yours to see if the deletes make any sort of difference? Im sure there would be and it would be interesting to see. Thanks
David Wisowaty I’m currently in nursing anesthesia school so it’s kind of hard to get some videos up unfortunately. But now that the truck is deleted you have more power and the shift points are a lot nice when towing once the truck is deleted. It’s not that you need more power, the shifting changes a lot on how truck handles heavier loads
Cool light bar bro how much more horsepower to torque ratio does that give you on the dyno and does that change if it’s flipped on
Cowboy P it adds around 60hp total
What sort of mpg difference do yyou get out of a delete ?
dannukesem I get around 22-26 on the highway maybe around 15-17 around town. All of that varies depending on how much you mash the pedal haha.
@@alexkobert_4746 Thanks, wondering how deletes will be done now that the EPA has cracked down.
I agree with walker walker they shouldn’t do that the truck is expensive enough that it won’t last up to it’s full potential.
The stock Cummins is more than enough without messing with it. I purchased new 1999, 2500, 4x4, Cummins, only change was the K&N air filter. Towed horse trailer approx 40k miles over a few years, traded it at 251k miles and it still ran great. Traded on a 2005, 3500 dually, 4x4, Cummins HO and changed air filter to K&N. Towed a 42'x8'Wx8'T living quarters horse trailer (14,300 lbs) all over the NC & TN mountains, towed like a champ. Ran perfect and just traded it with 207k miles, replaced with a 2018 Ram 3500 dually limited 4x4, 6.7 HO and Aisin trans. There will be no mods on the 2018 either, those trucks have more than enough HP and torque. If I want to go fast I will get my 1970 Chevelle SS 454 out of the garage! Keep in mind the consequences with deleting those trucks and trashing your warranty. A friend loved my 2005 dually so much that he purchased a 2006 2500, had a tuner installed along with 5" straight pipe exhaust. He loved driving it around with the fuel turned up and it cost him. My 2005 was like a new truck at 150k miles, his Cummins came apart at 60k miles and cost him $12,000+ to replace the engine. I personally think it is killing the engines lifespan but it is not smart to do it while under warranty. My 2018 has a 100,000 mile warranty so service, fuel filter change at every service and drive a dependable truck.
Chris M absolutely man! The stock trucks have tons of power! I just wanted mine to breathe a little and you can’t beat the awesome sound! I think tuning a truck is bad, but responsibility comes with it. When you begin to modify anything you should expect things to break haha. The stock parts are only made to handle so much power. But that’s awesome man I’m glad your trucks are running good for you. They all are very good machines and will last a life time if you maintain them properly👍 thanks for watching!! God bless
Bet you my 02 truck is just as reliable as your 2018 and it has 217k miles new does not mean better and you have 10x the electronic bullshit mines does but hey I guess you let a mechanic work on yours and I do all my own work.
I noticed the deleted truck looks like it has some blow by with the oil coming out of the dipstick and the oil spots everywhere. I agree it's not good to hot rod the truck around unless you build the motor for it or use a very mild tune. I had an '05 2500 and the injectors, head gasket, and pistons were toasted just from a tuner. Or it was abusive driving with the tuner....
@@Brexico engine health depends on so many factors other than just putting a tuner on it and making it fail you can make a stock engine fail it just requires more effort than a tuned and modified engine the right pedal is what makes or breaks a engine not modifying it (well unless you or the guy doing the work knows jack diddly shit about it)
I'm well aware, thanks.
I couldnt hear you, where did you get your truck worked at and deleted? thanks.
Deleted it right in the driveway sir
@@alexkobert_4746 sweet what kit did you use if i may ask. thanks.
@@darkokalajdzic3984 hey man I used ezlynk 2.0 from HPP performance. They are sort of out of business because of the EPA but I believe they are now CTT. They’re trans tunes are the best in my opinion. I also have a Flo pro 5 inch turbo back exhaust. Thanks for watching!!
Were can I get my ram truck deleted. Or where can I get the parts for it. Is there a website. Thanks
Michael Pitsko hey man!! I got all my parts from Rollin Smoke Diesel google them they are awesome!! Fast shipping and excellent service
www.maxxedperformance.com/b-101960-ppei-by-kory-willis.html
About a second difference in the 0 to 60 is about what I came up with
What HP gain is that to make it 1 second quicker? We know the Ram doesn't put it's advertised 350-370hp down to the ground on a Dyno, but have you done a test with various other tunes or done any 1/4 mile racing? Would love to know what a near 400hp truck does, and one with a little more power.
just like most of all other videos, all they talk about is how they sound and how quick it accelerates and how strong it feels. all that is not noticable on video and not important. what really is important is THE MPG, nobody talks about mpg . mpg stock vs. deleted and with what tire size and lift. tire size and lift lowers mpg. what are your mpg?
juan borrego I totally agree man I just wanted to do a little comparison video of them running side by side but I’m actually going to be making a video today about my ez lynk and the fuel mileage I get. If you check out my other video I have one on my stock trucks fuel mileage! 👍 thanks for watching
Actually some 35’s and a leveling kit on a Cummins, have improved fuel mileage, sooooo.....
How do you get a Deleted truck past emissions? Most states require a test every year or sometimes 2 years. I would love to get rid of the DEF and not blow coal.
jetdr hey man so in PA we have inspections we actually don’t have emissions. They’re thinking about emission laws but they haven’t gone through with that yet. If your not able to get rid of your exhaust I would highly recommend HPPs emissions intact tunes. Basically you can tune your truck with all your emissions equipment on the truck 👍 thanks for watching too!
awesome, I live in Maryland. they require Emission's once a year
None test in alabama and i dont roal coal at all
I actually checked the laws, Diesels don’t have to Emissions tested in MD, they are exempt. That a first for this commie state.
Diesels don't get Emissions tested in Maryland. One of the ONLY good things about this shithole state!.
What STATE?
So how does it pass the emissions test now?
Diesel operated vehicles are exempt from emissions tests, at least in NC they are
I have a 2008 2500 Cummins. And the guy quoted me $3000 for the delete. And I get 14 MPG. ANd said I may get a few more. Is it worth it?
Dam dont know where you live thats 1500 to much
What’s the difference in mileage? What transmissions and gearings?
Prevailing Viking hey check out my other videos for the stock gas mileage. I just deleted my truck and I get about 16 to 19 around town and on the high way 20 to 24. All depends on where your foot is. Honestly I’ve been getting less because it’s just so much fun to feel all that torque now. Both have the 68rfe and 3.42s I believe I’ll have to double check on that! 👍
they dont know, poor thing could barely describe his own truck! his dad prob bought it!
Carlos Juarez he bought the truck himself haha
Do you mean " He bought it himself"?. What do you got? tell us what you got. Well I got the um..... 7 secs later... what do you got? ..... um 2016 dodge cummins basically the same thing as alex.... WOW!
Next time your trying to tell us something about the engine under the hood turn the damn thing off so we can hear you.
Crowman thanks for the advice man. I played the video multiple times before I released it and I thought I could hear myself okay but I’ll do that next time. Thanks for watching!
Crowman I have to turn off my truck now when ordering food at a drive thru.
How nice you guys are so concerned about the air we breathe 😢jackass!
hello there im new to your channel and i just purchased a 2018 ram 2500 and was wondering how much it would cost me to delete it . with parts and everything included
It’ll probably cost you around 2000 to 4000 dollars max to delete the truck depending on where you buy the delete kit and if you pay to have someone install it or if you decide to install it yourself.
Alex Kobert_47 nice , i have ZERO experience working on trucks but ill keep watching videos over and over on how to do it and maybe ill do it my self . thanks!
Jovanny Becerra I have a video on how to do the deletes as well. I tried to keep it as detailed as possible
I bought a full egr delete kit + cooler with a efi live tuner 5 fly switch and a 4 inch straight pipe exhaust for only $1400 . I have the 17 model
@@Donny24v where did you buy it?
Damn, I wish you would have had a Timer running so we can see the difference.
It's Me gonna make a video this week on the different times once i delete mine this weekend
@@alexkobert_4746 sounds good
For the MPG alone it's worth deleting and tuning. Not only will it pay for it's self AND save you money on fuel it adds a lot of performance and sounds better. You probably get around 13-16 MPG because of the 35" mud tires and lift but if you DPF/EGR delete it and tune it you'll be getting the MPG you got when it was completely stock. The best tunes for cummins are PPEI and EFI Live.
Anthony J absolutely man I couldn’t agree more. I actually do pretty good on fuel mileage man. Check out my other videos. And those are very reputable companies. It seems a lot of people like HPP as well. Best trans tuning out there👍 thanks for watching man god bless!
@@alexkobert_4746 That's surprising but remember the dash doesn't always accurately read MPG. In fact most of the time it's wrong by like 2 MPG. I also forgot to mention regearing. That can also give a small MPG gain and performance because of the bigger tires.
Anthony J I hand calculated and I thought it was pretty accurate but that could always be the case. It’s so hard to judge fuel mileage on this truck because my foots always into the throttle. I call it smiles per gallon😂👍
I get 15.5mpg with a stock 16’ 2500 with 35inch tires no deletes
@@gigologreenz3277 thats pretty good that means you should get 18-19 deleted and tuned maybe even 20 or more at the right speeds depending on traffic and how you drive
Thanks
Cory has deleted brains cells.
before you start whining and complaining about deletes, get an education on what the EGR / DPF actually DO. Those emission control systems choke an engine that was built for 500k miles and wear it out at 125k. if you buy a Cummins or the Ford built powerstroke or whatever diesel engine, you're dropping 10-15K JUST for the diesel engine it has. The same type and size truck with a gas engine is WAY less. deleting all the emissions control crap will help the engine do what it was BUILT to do. rolling coal and all the other crap is a complete secondary consideration. Perfect world: buy the Ram 2500/3500 with the cummins..drive it stock and totally baby it for 4-5 years and hope you don't crap out the engine. at the end of 5 years, delete all that crap and live the good life! Roll Tide!
walker walker Not to mention the gas mileage. I daily drive a 2012 6.7 (last year before the def fluid was added). Before the delete I was averaging 13.5 mpg. After I deleted the DPF and the EGR system, I’m averaging around 18 mpg, and as high as 22 on the interstate. The buy in is never fun, but you see that money back through lower fuel and maintenance costs pretty fast.
Also the millions of plastic jugs in the landfills from DEF fluid containers. Better for the environment, right? The best thing I did was the delete kit on my Dodge.
On average, what’s the cost on a delete?
LaneUSMC depends on where you go. Do you want a tuner? What kind of exhaust tip/ new exhaust? What is the shop fee where you are going (not every diesel mechanic will do the delete) I payed 1500. Start by calling around to some of the custom shops in your area. Wether they work on diesels or not, they will probably be able to refer you to someone they work with.
Good luck
Wake Warthen Thanks
I got a 2016 ram 2500 diesel how much should i be expecting to pay for deleted and tuned work on my truck...?
J Perez hey man it all depends on who you go through. All companies are different in prices and exhaust systems are also different prices as well. Take a look at Rollin Smoke Diesel and give him a call and he will hook you up for sure! Thanks for watching! God bless! btw check out my video with my new exhaust on my truck
$2,500
I live in Washington Olympia
How much did you spend on the delete package?
Gibson SG Fan about 1800. Worth every penny! Thanks for watching!
I am impressed! No giant black cloud. More power is great but as you pointed out at the end, the engine is only part of the upgrade. Since the factories never overbuild anything (hard to find anything built well enough) the entire truck will need to be scrutinized. As for me, that's too much money for what you get in the end. I'd rather just get a bigger truck for utility purposes and leave the hotrodding for the cars.
Within 0:02 ... I'm like "Is this near Pittsburgh?" That accent. So thick. Feels like home.
Jonathan Hopkins haha yessir thanks for watching too!
I’m having a hard time understanding how the deleted truck is stock, it has to be tuned in some way if it’s deleted.
Jay Doucette the silver truck is stock and the black is deleted and tuned👍 sorry for the misunderstanding. Thanks again for watching!!
Can they be deleted and still as quiet out the back? I don't like loud exhaust any more.
jason454455456 yup! You can get a muffler for the exhaust if you want. It’ll still give you that nice sound but also keep the truck quiet as well
I went with Banks cold air and Monster ram when I deleted, that and my tune, thing absolutely rips and I just keep it on level 3 it goes to 5. It's like driving a sports car. I came out of a Raptor and this is easily faster off the line than my Raptor was.
I should also mention I have a 2019 3500, I used to get 16 mpg before the delete after the delete I get 19
Can you pass an emissions test? What will you do for next test?
Usualy the people who delete it have someone to get you an emissions test
Couldn't hear anything. Be cool to see the differences explained.
Looks like where I used to work in Houston PA.
Stuart Grimes yeah man thats the area
Thats about an hr away from me. How's your buddy get his inspected being deleted? I know smog test in PA is exempt, but don't they visually inspect for that stuff?
Here in va we must pass inspection, but it’s a joke.. just passed a few months ago deleted with a cracked windshield worn brakes and worn tires
@@extremerc76 were did you go for your inspection?! I need to go there.
Robert Luoma what part of va are you in? It’s different by region. Northern va is a lot more strict from what I’ve been told. I can give you the shop if your local, I don’t want to post it publicly
What Are the differences in fuel economy?
Hey man so in my truck which is the stock one, I get get anywhere from 15 to 17 around town. And 19 to 22 highway. In the deleted truck he got around the same around town but on highway is where I noticed more of a difference. The deleted truck gets a round 25 to 27. Pretty good for a big truck. Hope this helps!
Alex Kobert that's why I love the Cummins
TheTysurfs haha samehere man. Hey share this video. Thanks for watching! God bless
And subscribe haha
If you plan on keeping your truck after the warranty expires, deleting is a must. I gained 2mpg in city and 4 mpg highway after deleting.
Unfortunately today in 2022 videos like this draw attention from the unwanted epa. My buddy posted a video of doing a delete on his cummins a year ago. He got a letter in the mail from the epa saying he was going to get fined for removal of emissions. For shits and giggles he took the letter to a lawyer. The lawyer confirmed it was a legit letter from the epa. He's still hashing it out in court today.
Yikes
How about turn the truck off next time so we can hear without struggling to hear the info on the trucks then start them afterwards
jadasupra thanks for the advice man.
Also did u make any changes? I have a 2014 ram 3500 and lookin to do the deletes. Wondering what biggest notices were. And also very nice looking trucks btw. I live in myrtle beach with Carolina
jadasupra check out my delete videos man, I got a video that you can work along with when doing your deletes. Deleting is totally worth every penny. The performance gains are noticeable depending on your tunes. But remember your transmission is limited if you turn your tunes up. My auto transmission is working well and I’ve been running it on 130hp time but driving respectively though.
When my warranty is done I'm deleting mine lol
jason Bockkey you will not regret it man!! Thanks for watching!! God bless!!!
If it makes it to the end of Warranty. Get it off the Engine and u dont have to worry about Warranty. Deleted my 18 at 14k miles. Not a regret in the world.
@@redpoole9323
Where can you get your ram truck deleted. Or were can I get the parts to delete the ram truck.
@@Michael-js1qp Depends on where your located and u should be able to go to any Diesel shop near you
www.maxxedperformance.com/b-101960-ppei-by-kory-willis.html
Just order a package for my 17.
The most simple, cheap (price) to tune and delete. Compared to other tuners, this is guy is well known and not a piece of shit.
Don’t do cheap raceme shit. Just rip the emissions off and do the lowest HP rating if you’re not built, and drive it normally and it will put live you, if you just do regular service.
But how are you going to pass a smog inspection?
Pirateofthesage : Fuck Utah.
Francisco Islas : You don't pass an emissions inspection with a deleted anything.
Overall, it often depends on what state you live in and how their emissions testing is performed. What's really sad is that we all suffer in the end, both financially and ecologically.
Many of the so-called emissions devices on vehicles often result in the premature / demise of the engines, higher fuel consumption (less mpg's), and very costly and unreliable components for the end user/consumer to contend with.
Furthermore, there are far too many bullshit, nonsensical, & downright poorly thought out laws created all the time in this country, and it just keeps getting worse with every passing year. The bureaucratic jackasses are forever trying to remain in office however they can, often whilst talking about how great he/she is by all of the "great" laws that they've passed during their time that they've been in office. - Nothing but damned idiots, constantly making things worse and worse for society as a whole.
Furthermore, despite what so many foolish and under-educated Joe six-packs out there think or believe, the federal, state, and even local government bureaucrats couldn't give two shits about clean air or the environment, like they all too often claim that they do.
They only care about how to get votes by telling people whatever they want to hear during every election time in order to keep their over-paid government jobs. Not a damned thing more.
Ok, time to get off my soap-box...
Just purchased a 2006 4x4 with only 115k miles. No rust, no DPF, no EGR. $13,700. I can go buy 3 more and still have $ left over, vs buying 1 new Truck. And the 5.9 is a much better engine.
Bob Johnson that’s awesome man! Here in PA it’s difficult to find a nice used truck with lower miles. Let alone the rust. But I hope it treats you well!
That Maryland accent though...
I'd like to see a [Tuned Emissions Equipped] 2016 Cummins tuned by Calibrated Performance go up against these two trucks. They talk a big game on their Diesel Performance Podcast about the effectiveness of the emission intact tunes being better then deleted tuned trucks [not full builds just deleted + tuned vs tuned.
If you’re out of warranty then toss all the EPA shit out. Or sell it later. 😂
My 3500 is completely deleted, fuel economy is amazing and it runs like it should, keep up with maintenance and it will last longer than you.
What kind of fuel economy you getting? Looking to delete and tune my 2012 3500
@@michaelbasham389 on the hiway at 105 kms ranging from 11.5 litres per 100 to 12.3. In the city 13 litres per 100
What’s your setup?! If my math is correct converting that to mpg that’s 24mpg?!
@@michaelbasham389 3.73 gears and 34” ties
Hope your State DEQ or division of Motor Vehicles doesn't start enforcing the removal of the Federally mandated emissions equipment. The Federal fines are probably huge.
who cares if they do. screw them! they bitch and complain about so much emissions from everyone driving and then they put on all this bullshit equipment which drastically lowers the mileage and in effect creates MORE emissions instead of less. fuck the fed!
@@michaelkey3915 you got that right. They are worried about us, but government officials fly around in personal jets putting off more emissions then we ever will.
I mean odds are you're breaking several laws a day by just existing
The deleted truck definitely sounded better. It sounded sweet, and that was just at idle.
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A company I worked for had a 2012 Cummins 1 ton that had the DEF system unplugged if that makes sense. The diesel mechanic at our shop said "I just unplugged it." That truck is stupid fast now but it overheats whenever put it under a load.
That's because its clogged. You can't just unplug it. It gets clogged with soot. Its needs to regen. It's going to filter regardless if you have the sensors plugged in. Think of it as a air filter in your home it's going to get dirty.
@@XJlover90 Im well aware of the DEF regeneration cycle. The issue was that the truck had been regenerating for years. Literally, the truck would indicate it was going to regen and would sometimes successfully do so. After a "successful" regen it would be good for a couple of hours. Then the truck would lose all power and max out at 25 mph. The truck was dangerous to drive at that point. The shop mechanic did what he felt he should do to maintain the safety of those who were going to operate it. That wasn't the only truck in our fleet that would do that either.
@@XJlover90 He may have done more to it but he did not elaborate beyond unplugging it.
@@bryantodd6507 yea but you have to gut or remove that filter core otherwise it's gonna get fully clogged and just blow up the engine
thinking of getting a 2019 diesel truck, if i drive 6 miles to work, and 6 miles back home (per day) thru the work week, and then on saturday drive 30 to 40 miles on the highway, will this be enough?
don’t care about mpg it’s a truck
K bomb the 2019s are nice trucks man. I like them but honestly they’re too expensive for me so I stick to used trucks. But the truck will be more than enough. Just remember to delete it down the road is all😏👍 I never once had a frown on my face while driving my truck. Thanks watching man! God bless
thanks man
Diesels need to get warmed up. I've heard driving diesels for a short time is not good carbon build up and things of that nature
@@Kr4j its true and mpg sucks with short trips
Just get a gasser if you just drive a few miles per day to work. You'll burn a lot of fuel warming up, you'll spend more on fuel and DEF, unless deleted, and if you're going stock, you'll burn a lot of fuel purging the DPF. If you're in the city, you'll be looking at less than 10 mpg.
NC for DoubleR. And EFI is the way to go. EFI EFI EFI LIVE
Red Poole nothing wrong with EFI live man. All are good platforms👍
@@alexkobert_4746 EFI LIVE is a totally different Monster. But DRD is in my home State and if they still done EFI i would use them also. But i am running Custom tuning from Ryan and a CSP4 switch.
Red Poole that’s awesome man! I agree EFI live is phenomenal but you have to know what you are doing when your dealing with tuning. I chose ez lynk because of the simplicity. I think it’s incredible how you can view everything from your phone.
@@alexkobert_4746 that's badass
Hey Alex in my your stock Dodge is way better in my opinion I think I really like the leveling kit you have on there
Alex Guzman thanks man! I appreciate it!
wrxassa nah I care more for the environment
Alex Guzman I don't want to roll coal that's wasted fuel but I don't want to pay thousands of dollars for emissions crap when it goes bad had a friend that had his def system go out and it wasnt covered by warranty but his insurance did it was about 5 grand
wvboy0311 holy shit I understand you but care about the environment that's why I love def honestly is personal opinion I think you friend probably didn't take care of def system
@@bighorn9119 lmao you obviously don't know what def is then
what was that message blinking on your dash when you started driving? let me guess, 4WD shift in progress 😊
You have that too?
@@wizard_of_poz4413
Yes I do and is fckin annoying 😒! I bought several front axle actuators and yet still doing it, Ram can't figure it out, I'm done expending money on this crap !
@@l.a3752 I don't think it's that because if I jiggle the 4wd stick then it stops doing it. I think the contact switch is reading false
@@wizard_of_poz4413
Okay im gonna try that before I set it up on fire 🔥. Thanks bro
@@l.a3752 mine never really bothers me and it's only when I first start it in the morning
In the UK they’re getting super strict, not worth it any more here too much risk. Five years time we won’t even be able to buy an ICE motor car
Isn’t it a shame? I respect the EPA but come on let’s face it, it’s all about the money anymore
Europe is fucked totally
Should have upgraded his intake also if he deleted all the exhaust.
MCMUSICH he did
When you get caught ants a 10,000.00 fine good job
Two turtles racing
Haha. That's what I was thinking.
Why did you guys park so close to each other
chopper 09 small driveway man
It might have been more effective to have him tell you what his truck is all about when the motor was turned off, it's pretty garbled.
Pete Morse sorry about the poor quality man it was my first video and I didn’t realize the amount of noise until we uploaded it. But we got it all figured out for next time though! Thanks for watching
@@alexkobert_4746, I also give credit! It was informative as well. No disrespect intended.
Not my 12v Cummins she is admission free 92 Cummins
No def fluid in the truck I love that 3500 dully 2014 diesel
so from 0-60 in 8 seconds to 0-60 in 7 seconds? Doesn't seem to be that much of an improvement for the work put into it.
tallthor the deletes are not for strictly for speed. I delete my truck to increase reliability and actually let the truck breath. And I got sick of all the egr codes too. Deleting is definitely worth it though👍
I deleted my 07 6.7 in 08 after I put 50k on it...the amount of egr soot in the intake almost made me puke....now 200 k later....ALL soot out the exhaust and not in my intake.
U can't seal up a diesel engine and make it a closed system and expect it to work properly, be reliable and for it to provide any kind of long-term worry free operation. It's the nature of the beast. Sadly the government has killed the benefit diesels once had. Which is why u see the big 3 reinvesting in big displacement v8 gasers.
it also improves mpg and its better for the engine because soot isnt being dumped into it all the time
i know guys with a bigger turbo and upgraded injectors that gain 6 mpg which is huge
That sounds so awesome! I am in wheeling and have a 2013. Hit me up I would like to talk to y’all!!!
Brandon Evans haha for sure man!! Actually putting my Flo Pro on as we speak. I’m on a mission to get this done
I live in wheeling as well and I'm planning to get a 5 inch turbo back on my 1994 12 valve.
Nate Mountford nice man!!! That truck is going to fly!!! How close to cabelas are you?
@@alexkobert_4746 About 15 minutes from the highlands cabelas.
Nate Mountford awesome man that’s not bad at all. I’m about 20 minutes out. We all should meet up sometime
It is a huge misconception that you need to delete these trucks to make power. A simple tune will get you that +30, +50 or +100hp for $1000, and you get the transmission tuned aswell. or so you can get the same power and more upto nearly 450hp on all stock parts with emissions. That's the video I want to see, what a difference just the tuning does in 1/4mile time and 0-60mph. 400hp in a stock truck would be fun, even 420hp
Nobody really thinks of power when doing that, they are more worried about not having to replace it or have the emissions equipment destroy the engine. Like I know that mine has done a regen only a couple times and It looks like it's already diluting the oil from that late injection cycle
Mine is night and day difference i will run off and leave both of you turn the tune all the way up and it will fly
Nice man that’s awesome!
@@alexkobert_4746 ours is a straight shift so I know that makes a difference but my neighbor has his turned up nearly as much as ours is and he has almost 300k on it with only ujoints water pump and some hoses
Emission control components do not cause your diesel to loose power nor does it shorten the life of the diesel engine.
Alex Salazar you’re an idiot
Skysm Sorry but it’s true man. Emission controlled Diesels will easily last 1 million miles just the same as Deleted Diesels.
@@alexsalazar5871 I mean I highly doubt it personally, I've driven a lot of rigs that have emissions and some are great and some are crap. But that 6.7 in the dodge and the powerstroke both rely on dumping fuel into the cylinders to regen and that shit is a recipe for a catastrophic failure sooner than later.
Not to mention basically any egr cooler will plug up or bust eventually
He deleted the Cummins? Is that the samething as deleting the muffler? Lol
No, the new trucks come with an exhaust recycler and a trap that catches the black smoke and requires additional fuel to set the accumulated coal dust on fire essentially
Bed bug bites??
Dont deleting that void the warranty
Murphy Davis yes it does
A stock Ram Cummins is always the best in my opinion
Alex Guzman there’s nothing wrong with a stock ram my man.
I keep seeing all these comments about the motors not lasting that long with all the emissions crap, but how do yall know that? Are you guys just making up BS or is there some actual research on this!?
Alex look it up on forums and you’ll find out real quick
Alex Kobert_47 Whats the difference? it’ll probably just be people making assumptions based of something somebody else read or heard. Where is the research?