Panoramic head tutorial (Nodal Ninja or any): 360 photos with DSLR or any camera for virtual tours
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
- Virtual tours are HOT! Stand out from the competition by taking very high quality 360 photos -- with almost any camera! The secret is to use a panoramic head -- a tool previously reserved for experts and specialists. But in this panoramic head tutorial, I will show the complete process -- everything you need to know to start using a pano head for 360 photos, from shooting through stitching. (In the tutorial, I used the Nodal Ninja 3, but the techniques I showed can be used for any multi-row pano head).
I will discuss:
- 6 advantages of using a DSLR / panohead for 360 photos instead of a 360 camera
- How to setup the panoramic head
- What kinds of camera and lens combinations work best for 360 photos
- What kinds of settings to use
- What is the no parallax point (NPP or "nodal point") to minimize stitching errors.
- A simple but effective way for finding the nodal point -- yes you can do it even with a fisheye lens
- How to shoot the spherical panorama
- How to stitch the panorama
Here are sample photos, comparing 360 photos with a panoramic head vs. popular 360 cameras:
360rumors.com/2018/06/360-came...
Hyperfocal distance calculator: www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html
Where to buy: shop.nodalninja.com
Get a 10% discount by using the code 360r10 during checkout!
Nodal Ninja 3 is part F3504
Nodal Ninja 6 for longer lenses (up to 200mm): part F6001
More info:
360rumors.com/2018/05/panorami... - Наука та технологія
In this panoramic head tutorial, I will show the complete process -- everything you need to know to start using a panoramic head, from shooting through stitching.
I will discuss:
- 6 advantages of using a DSLR / panohead for 360 photos instead of a 360 camera
- How to setup the panoramic head
- What kinds of camera and lens combinations work best for 360 photos
- What kinds of settings to use
- What is the no parallax point (NPP or "nodal point")
- How to find the no parallax point -- yes you can do it even with a fisheye lens
- How to shoot the 360 panorama
- How to stitch the panorama
I will be posting samples here in a few days: 360rumors.com/2018/05/panoramic-head-tutorial.html
What pano head is that? You forgot to add the bottom shot
Thank you for this! I am just getting started with DSLR panorama photography, and this video is the best I have found out of dozens that I have watched so far. Thanks to your information and presentation, even my first shots are coming out great. There were just a few issues with my learning curve in PTGui, but even for that, having well-shot photos makes a huge difference.
6:25 Explaining parallax with your eyes was great! I never thought of that, but it's the perfect parallax example.
Thanks buddy! I'm glad you found the analogy helpful :D
Great video easy to understand with the simplest explanation I've found on how to setup the pano head. Thank you!
Thanks! I didn’t know you made a tutorial for this thanks for sharing!
No problem Dawson! Glad to help!
Thank you for posting this. Very helpful.
Thanks mediamannaman! I really appreciate the time you took to give feedback! You rock!
Thank you very much for this very good tutorial about panoramic head, and particularly for the adjustement of the parallax. Now, it's very clear for me!!
Thank you very much! I'm glad you found it helpful! Stay tuned, i will have other videos about panoheads soon. Best regards, Mic
EXCELLENT TUTORIAL. WELL DONE.
I am a pro real estate photographer. I am lacking in 360 virtual tours. You are providing the confidence I need to try this. Thank you.
Thank you very much David! With your photography skills, you'll learn faster :D The composition techniques are similar to shooting with an ultrawide rectilinear or fisheye.
Thank you sir...God Bless you..
Well done video. Thank you for your help.
Thanks Pierre! In a few weeks, I will post a free video tutorial that talks about how to choose the camera and lens, plus everything from shooting to stitching 360 photos with a DSLR.
So funny. I watched that video in 2018. I was unsure if I should buy a 360 camera, but then stumbled upon this video. So I bought a pano-head and a good fisheye for the DSLR I already had.
Now 2020, I still watch your videos. And no actual consumer 360 cam produces as sharp and detail-richt spheres as my setup. Sure, it's tedious to carry around a DSLR setup, and the workflow is a pain in the ass. But the quality is still unbeatable.
You made a very wise choice my friend. DSLR is the best option for a virtual tour with very good image quality. There is one 360 camera that can beat some DSLRs for detail: ua-cam.com/video/XVbOKYGnluk/v-deo.html
@@360vroomers Yeah, the XPhase is really great. But also double the price of the fisheye I bought. :)
@@hirschheisstdermann Yes the main advantage of XPhase is speed. If you want to do a quick but high res virtual tour and your client doesn't expect perfect stitching or colors, Xphase is good for that.
Very good video, thank you.
Thank you very much VR Visuals!!!
Great video!
Thanks Vu Le! I'm working on a new online course for DSLR 360 photos with some advanced techniques and shortcuts :D Stay tuned.
Merci beaucoup
Great tutorial 👍😊
De rien mon ami! 😃 best regards, Mic
Thank you for taking the time to put this together.. I thought I was a dinosaur for wanting something more sophisticated than an adroid 360.
you are the man . thanks
Thanks buddy. Actually I have another more detailed tutorial that I'm working on - stay tuned.
Exactly the channel I was looking for 😍 - subscribed and hit also the bell. Please add any recommendations or affiliate links to the video description. Particular the 360 pano head and a head to get into level prior to mount the 360 head. 1000 thanks 🙏 in advance.D
Thank you very much Kwisaz! If you want to get any Nodal Ninja products, you can get a 10% discount by using the code 360r10. Thank you very much for your support!
thank you very much for the info, now i only make 360 pics with my dslr
Congratulations!! You might find this new technique interesting: ua-cam.com/video/3hP_8eZTGiw/v-deo.html
Hello Mic! First, congratulations, all of your videos are awesome! and I bough a Xiaomi Mijia 360 because of you and I'm vaery happy :) I have a question, do you think I'll have good results using a panoramic head like Nodal Ninja with a 17-40mm F4 lens with a 6D Full Frame? or I need to buy a 8mm fisheye lens?
Thanks Adriano! And thank you very much for buying the xiaomi! About the 17-40L, yes you can take a panoramic shot with it, although I don't know how many shots it will take. At 24mm, it takes around 22 shots. I also don't know if Nodal Ninja 3 will fit. Here's how you can check: measure the distance from the tripod hole to the front of the lens. If the distance is 12cm or less, then you can use nodal ninja 3. If not, then you need Nodal Ninja 6 (up to 16cm) or M series (up to 20cm). If you want to buy a fisheye lens, the 8-15 is what the pros use :D
Best regards, mIc
Very clear as usual. Thank you
But in that Ninja 3 head, would I need an L Bracket device to prevent the camera from leaning?
Hi Mic, when you shot a pic for tripod removal I suggest to adjust focus lens, because fisheye lens usually is set to infinity when take panorama, ..happy weekend ;)
Franco Melechi thanks Franco! Mine is set to hyperfocal distance so it is still in focus but that's a good tip!
Great video! What is the monopod or tripod are you using? There are no videos out there yet, that talk about stability, monopod plus base or great tripod.
Thanks getkitchendeal! For dslr or mirrorless pano, i would use a tripod nor monopod. I like the benro series 2 and i prefer flip locks. Here is an updated tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/3hP_8eZTGiw/v-deo.html
Hey, thanks for the video, one of the best places for 360 tutorials. I have some questions, if I have a 14 mm on a FF camera, with your experience, how many photos do I need to take? I guess I need to tilt up and down since the field of view of that lens is not 180 degrees? Can I use PS to stitch them together?
Jose Soriano hi Jose. I believe you will need 2 rows of 6 shots each although i havent tried shooting with a rectilinear ultrawide. PS is not designed to stitch spherical shots. If you dont want to get ptgui you can try hugin or microsoft image composite editor (ICE). HTH!
This is a great explanation! Thanks
Thanks! I have a newer tutorial and guide here if you want ua-cam.com/video/3hP_8eZTGiw/v-deo.html
@@360vroomers Thank you. I already watched it too ))
Thanks buddy! I honestly believe that for small virtual tours, a dslr or mirrorless is the best camera.
@@360vroomers And for huge buildings it is better to use Theta Z1 then I guess )
@@360dereceaz yes for virtual tours with hundreds of nodes a 360 camera would be more practical
Thanks for this very good video. One question still: how do you chose the number of frames. Is there a calculation you need to do? For example you want 360 degrees with 50mm full frame, how many shot and how many increment for the inckinaison?
Do you need to change nodal point for every lens?
Hey there lordoftiming! Here is a shot calculator shop.nodalninja.com/shot-calculator/
Re nodal point yes you must find it for each camera/lens/focal length combination. If you plan to use more than one lens, Nodal Ninja has spacers for particular camera/lens combinations to make resetting the nodal point it easier.
Thanks for doing this video very helpful. So you only do the calibration only once per shot? Do you need to put in order the vertical shots for the software to do the stitching process or it does by itself, like the zenith shot? Thanks once again 🙏
Thanks Juan. Normally, you do the calibration only once until you change the lens. Depending on the lens focal length, you may need zenith shot and/or nadir shot.
360Rumors great 👍 thanks for the feedback
Dude! This is the best 360 video out there. I have watched a bunch. Seriously! Great job! Its just the right length. You produced solid information throughout the whole thing. (the beginning could be tighter) A seriously amazing job. When I was watching the opening I thought you were trying to sell me a three week course by listing the objectives. Then you cut to advertising. The only reason I stuck around was because the Sigma Lense content was intriguing and I was folding my clothes.Fortunately I was still around for the real information. Move that break somewhere more annoying in the middle of something. For retention. I am not complaining about the advertising. I have no problem watching an ad to the end so you get paid for your knowledge. So back at you!. This is the whole thing.
I am going to be using what I learned here for good. I am sitting in my office playing with my new pano rig. I watched you video before I bought it so it does all the stuff. I am shooting spherical HDR,s that I am using for Fine Art Virtual Reality stuff. I couldn't have done it without you. you rule
Thanks Charles! I really appreciate the feedback and suggestions! I didn't realize that UA-cam put the ad in there
I will try to move it. Thanks again!
@@360vroomers No problem. I would hate for someone to miss your excellent content. Keep up the great work and thanks for your help.
Hey! Super great tutorial!!
Where is the step for removing the tripod from the nadir?
Thanks!
Chen Damari great question! I will do a follow up video that shows how. In essence, you import the handheld nadir shot then you paint a mask on the shots with the panohead. Thats all! Ptgui 11, panoramastudio pro 3, and autopano can do this. My tutorial will also show accessories to make it easy to shoot the nadir 😀
Is the Samyang 8mm F2.8 UMC Fisheye II still your recommended lens in 2019 for 360 panoramic photos using the a6000?
Hi Not0rious7. Yes the Samyang 8mm 2.8 II is still a good lens for a6000. and if you upgrade to ff in the future, you can use the Samyang 8mm 2.8 for that one too!
Hi Great videos you make. I just wanted to come back to this specific video to ask this since you're using the DSLR & the Fisheye: I can see that as you rotate/pan the camera you're take 6 horizontal shots (instead of the usual 4 horizontal, which would be at 0, 90, 180, 270 degrees). Could you please explain:
1-How do you assess how many horizontal shots you should capture?
2-How do you determine, by how many degrees you should rotate the Nodal Ninja horizontally, as you're taking the 6 horizontal shots?
3-Is the choice of Fisheye's Focal Length (example, 12 mm Wide vs 15mm Wide) the reason why you choose to take 6 instead of the typical 4 horizontal shots?
I know I asked too many questions... but I got to say THANK YOU, as you're the most informative educator concerning these virtual tours sir!!
Hi N G. Good questions. Actually I am working on an online training class for shooting with DSLRs, which will answer these and all other questions.
@@360vroomers That is awesom and I am looking forward to your book. In the meanwhile, may I ask you one question, since I want to start shooting 360 virtual tours and need to buy a Fisheye now:
I shoot in M/43 format (Panasonic/Oly cameras) which is crop sensor. I noticed the 8mm Samyang lens you're using in the video is equivalent to 12mm focal length of Full Frame sensor (35mm Equivalent).
1-I am wondering if picking up a Fisheye that say has a focal length of 16mm as opposed to 12mm (Full Frame equivalent), would put you at a disadvantage?
2- What MFT Fisheye (Focal length) mm, would you recommend?
Thank you SO very much for giving your invaluable insights!
Thanks for the advice on my last video - I gave you a like and fully watched 👍👍
Thanks Manchester! 😍 I really appreciate it! Best regards, Mic
how many photos did I need with 14mm?
I need FULL 360 with the full sky and full ground, not just sides,
and another question, how to know where to move my camera between frames? I mean how many cms I should move my camera sideways
I mean the movement you did at 11:49 , how to do it without checking every frame to make sure its aligned right?
if understand what I mean
Hi there, what kind of fisheye lens do you use? I'm using Nikon z50. Thank you
Hi Mic. Which fisheye lens would you suggest me to buy to use on my Cannon 600D? OR rather does your lens with which you demonstrated this video fit with Cannon 600D?
Thanks
Regards
Michael
Michael Carvalho hi Michael. Here are some suggested lenses. 360rumors.com/2018/05/panoramic-head-tutorial.html in addition, i have three more lenses that i will test: samyang 7.5, 7artisans 7.5 and sigma 8 f/3.5. Best regards, mic
Thanks Mic, Would they all go with my Cannon 600D?
Thanks
Regards
Michael
Is it possible to use 16mm on crop(1.6) and how to count angle?
Very well done! I've been thinking of getting a panohead for my Lumix GH4...if I dont have a fisheye. How would you compare the Lumix with getting a 360 one...(not the PRO)
Philip Quirino hi Gh4 + panohead will definitely result in higher quality than a consumer 360 camera. But you cant take spontaneous shots, nor video. So you have to choose... or get both? 😀 best regards, mic
360Rumors.com I can confirm this. I have a gh4 and gh5. After buying a gh5 i could not sell my gh4 because i really love the camera. I use it as my second camera. I also made 360 photo's with the g4 and the results are nice. Cant see much of a difference in image quality compared to the g5. I take 8 (every turn 45 degrees) pictures with a 7.5 mm lens. Hopefully i own a nodal ninja soon 🙏🙏
Hi guys, I really wanna see a 360 photo from gh4, i own this camera and i have got a 7.5mm lens. Can you share some 360 with me?
Great tutorial. I intend to get a Neewar Pano Head. What is your opinion of Panorama Studio? Where can I find some good tutorials for it?
PT Gui is way over my budget.
Thanks Behram. Panorama Studio Pro (psp) is cheaper and does a fine job with ultrawide lenses or other rectlinear lenses. For fisheye I found it a bit tedious. PTGui Pro also has advanced features like automatic masking to avoid stitching errors. I rarely have to fix stitching errors. See my updated dslr tutorial here: ua-cam.com/video/3hP_8eZTGiw/v-deo.html But if it is really too much, psp is not bad. I have a tutorial in a review here: ua-cam.com/video/oqHXQlF9QnQ/v-deo.html
Hey Vic, great video. What pano head do you recommend for a Canon 6D Mark ii with an 8-15mm fisheye? Just curious if you think that there's a particular Nodal Ninja that is best - I'll use the discount code bud!
Thanks Hopscotch. What is the total length of the 6D mkii with the fisheye_? Depending on the length, I would recommend Nodal Ninja 3 or Nodal Ninja 6. Or the Nodal Ninja R1. See my other tutorial here: ua-cam.com/video/9SJVdE7yO_I/v-deo.html
@@360vroomers It's just under 15cm/6"
@@HopscotchInteractive Hi Hopscotch. OK you'll need Nodal Ninja 6. Nodal Ninja 3 is not long enough for your camera/lens combo.
@@360vroomers Thanks boss!
hi Mic,
By the way what app do you use to click from your phone. Could I use this app with my Cannon 600 D?
Thanks
Regards
Michael
Hi Michael. In my case, I used the Sony a6000 app to control it remotely. The Canon 600D doesnt have built-in wireless control capability but there are many accessories to enable you to trigger it remotely. Just search for "Canon 600D remote shutter." best regards, mic
Is that lapel mic working correctly? Picking up all kinds of background noise.
Hi Dojo Mark! I live on a busy intersection (2 major streets) hence the noise. For parts of the video, i used a shotgun mic, and for other parts, i used the lapel mic with an external recorder
Awesome video! What model tripod are you using in this tutorial ?
Hi Rayven. I think for this one i used a light stand. But usually i use manfrotto 190go
Thanks for the video. Have seen a few, but none shows how to get rid of the tripod without affecting the floor. I tried PS and layers but always come up with something crappy due to the difference in the handheld shot. Any ideas?
In my upcoming HQ Method class, there is a whole chapter dedicated to showing how to do this seamlessly. The class will be on 360rumors.thinkific.com.
Thanks. Looking forward to it.
What lens do you recomend with sony emount camera? great videos
Hi Gil. APS-C or full frame? Here is an updated complete guide ua-cam.com/video/3hP_8eZTGiw/v-deo.html
Hello Mic. Thanks for this. Just few questions. Will my Sony a7ii with 28-70mm lens fit on the ninja nodal mark ii? And the second question is how do I take photos with just a normal kit lens? 5 shots at 0 degree angle? 5 shots at 35 degree angle? I know I will have to take a lot of shots because I won't be using fish eye lens but it's okay as long I get high qulity result. Thanks
hi Janus. No you'll need a nodal ninja 6 for a 28-70 lens. You can use a kit lens but it will take many shots. Basically, you need 25 to 50% overlap. So just move until there is around 25 to 50% overlap, then move it again, etc.
I have a question. With that same set up, would it have been possible to just shoot 4 horizontal (perhaps tilted slightly downwards), plus one zenith shot?
I just got my multirow pano head, but in a big dilemma to go for a APSC Sony A6000 or a full frame.
The A6000 seems to be the lowest price camera with all the features I require (AEB, remote shutter). Problem is the lack of native E-mount lenses that will provide a cropped fisheye (4shots). Was thinking of just getting a Samyang 8mm instead, and take 4 horizontal, with just 1 additional zenith.
By going for a full frame camera, it solves this problem... Although, the price is a bit strep for me at the moment.
Hi Emilio. Yes, if you use a circular fisheye or cropped circular fisheye, you can get a fully spherical photo with 4 shots and 1 nadir shot to patch the nadir if you want. You can get Samyang 7.5 with shaved hood and converted to E-mount (Nodal Ninja sells a conversion kit), or Sigma 8mm. You can see samples of both lenses here: 360rumors.com/360-camera-comparison-tool#dslr
Best regards,
Mic
What where the 360 camera that you recommended at the end of the video?
To create a non distorted one huge panoramic image is just the lens selection? Not sure due the nodal may still do some image warp, isn't that true? thanks
Hi castilf1. If you shoot a 360 panorama, you can make it not distorted by choosing a *rectilinear view* in your 360 photo viewer. It doesn't matter even if you shot with fisheye or some other lens.
Hello again, I have a really old (about 22 years old) pano head that I bought to use with Quicktime VR and had an old stitching program from that era as well (which of course wont load on newer computers) So, I am inspired to use the pano head again (not so sophisticated as the Ninja, as it does not have detents it just has degree marks ( 0 to 360) which should work... My question is you are using an 8mm fisheye, I have a Canon xsi 12mp DSLR, is there a reason you pick that lens? I started shooting at an office today for a virtual tour when my Yi 360 decided to stop functioning! UG! So, I would like to try my hand at taking 360 like I did in the old days (sort of), and I will be using a new stitching program though. Any suggestion for the fisheye I should use. When shooting in the old days I shot 18 images for one rotation, I see you get away with 6 because of the fish eye.
Hey there namasterick. I use fisheye lenses because you can shoot a 360 panorama with less shots. Here is a guide for choosing lenses for a 360 panorama 360rumors.com/2019/02/lens-use-360-panorama-fisheye-lens-comparison-chart.html
Also, when using PTgui, which video tutorial can i watch for best setting when doing HDR.
The best setting for HDR depends on the camera and the ambient light. A good starting point is 3 shots +/- 2EV . You can adjust that depending on the dynamic range of the room, and your camera's own dynamic range. In post processing, you need a good HDR software. The one I use is photomatix. i'll post a sample
@@360vroomers ok, i appreciated very much. you been helpful, thx
you're welcome! :D
Hey buddy, i own a panasonic gh 5 and am wondering which fish angle lens is good for me to buy. Is Samyang 7.5 mm lens a good, not to expensive, option? Regards, Chris
Hey there buddy! Yes, you're doing good research I see! Samyang 7.5mm is indeed one of the most popular options for MFT. And in the future, if you decide to upgrade to full frame, you can shave the sides of the lens hood and even use it with a full frame or aps-c lens with excellent results. I myself don't have MFT anymore but I also got this lens for my APS-C cameras. Best regards, Mic
360Rumors.com Nice to know that i dont need to have to spend a lot of money anymore for having a good working set. The gh 5 is really awsome for making regular video's. Looks very professional. For video purposes its a high end cam.
Yes the GH5 is amazing, and this is just an example of why a panohead is actually a cost-effective solution for high quality 360 photos because many users already have a good quality non-360 camera that they can use. Looking forward to your shots Chris! :D Best regards, Mic
Hello My Friend, your Philadelphia friend has another relativly simple question for you. I haven't gotten around to the fisheye yet, but I will.
I have however obtained a panohero for a Yi 4k. (interesting design.)
Every time I take a photo with it, the Yi captures part of the Panohero! Huh?
I do not understand how it can take a photo of itseslf if it was made for the Yi. Any idea?
Congrats namasterick. When you stitch the photos, it should be ok. There will just be a small circle in the nadir
Do I need a ball head along with the NNR1? Is this necessary? I have a manfrotto 055 tripod and sony mirrorless?
No, you can straighten in post instead. Otherwise you will need to erase the tripod legs. Btw i will have a free webinar on which gear to get for dslr 360 photos and why, plus shooting and stitching. To be notified, sign up here: notify.virtualtouredge.com/prelaunch
Hi Mike.. thanks for your tutorial. I have a question, which best lens use for my Nikon D600 full frame and what is the best lens for Sony A7 m3? I also already have Sigma 12-24 Art for Nikon but the angle view is not 180⁰ so i have difficulties to shot 360x180. Thanks for your help.
Thanks Haryadi. For the Sony a7, you can get the Samyang 8mm 2.8 for 4 shots or Samyang 12 2.8 fisheye for 8 shots. For Nikon D600, i've heard people say good things abotu the nikkor 8-15 fisheye although i've never tried it myself. Sigma 12-24 is nice but yes you'll need to take many shots.
@@360vroomers thanks Mike, appreciate
Thanks Haryadi Handoko!
Great tutorial. but i'm confused of many types of Panoramic heads some of them have rotator, some has not. what is the difference . can u help? thanks in advance
Thanks Shirin. Rotator lets you turn the panohead precisely. For example, 6 turns of 60 degrees each.
Basic rotators have a fixed number of click stops.
More expensive rotators can be adjusted so that you can change the number of click stops without having to dismantle the rotator.
Mr. 360, I am setting up for pano with a DSLR and I do have a choice of lenses. Primary purpose is landscapes. You mention to go wider and you demo a fisheye. I thought that too wide, say less than 35mm would show a lot of distortion. I was wondering whether 35mm or 50mm would be better.
Please explain.
I haven't watched your nodal point discussion yet. But, I do have the Induro 5 way panhead and all I'm missing is nodal point technique.
Hi Michael. Great questions. First, the distortion on fisheye has no effect on shooting 360. The distortion is negated during the stitching process.
Yes you can use 35, 50 or even telephoto. The longer the lens, the more detailed the shot will be, but the more shots you will need to take a 360 photo. On full frame, 35mm requires 62 shots. 50mm requires 128 shots. With more shots, there is greater chance for error.
No you cannot use your induro panhead to take a spherical photo. The video explains what is nodal point and why you need a panoramic head.
Hi there, can you please let me know which monopod and small tripod kit you are using?
Hi George. for tripod i use the manfrotto 190 go carbon fiber. Monopod is not suitable for DSLR panorama because it will move too much. Pls check out this monopod and tripod comparison video: ua-cam.com/video/ZIgBZpwgP7g/v-deo.html
Awesome video! I have a Canon SL2 with EF-S 18-55mm, i don't have money to spend on a fisheye lens. Could i just buy the Nodal Ninja and take a lot of photos? How do i know what Nodal Ninja to buy?
Regards and thanks for sharing your expertise!
Hi Alejandro! Yes you can use your camera and lens to take a 360 photo. But FYI you will need many shots. Like 30 shots or something. On the other hand, the advantage is that you will have much higher resolution. You can use Nodal Ninja 3.
Many thanks for the response, with that info, i think that is going to be more effective and cheaper to buy a Hero 5 Black with a panoramic head.
Hi, thank you for the video. It was very helpful. I have now watched a few videos about how to create virtual tours. All the videos show taking pictures and then stitching them in special software to create panoramas. You mentioned ptgui and other software. However, my camera (Nikon D3300) has a feature called Easy Panoramas. So it let's you create the panorama IN CAMERA. So IN THAT CASE do I still need to take INDIVIDUAL pictures and then stitch them in special software or can I simply create my panoramas IN CAMERA and then skip the stitching step and start creating virtual tours with THOSE panoramas right away. Thanks again for the video, I'd appreciate your advice.
Thanks buddy. That panorama feature is designed only for nonspherical panoramas. If you use the photos from that to try to build a sphere, it will create a lot of stitching errors. So you should use regular photos, not your camera's panorama mode.
Thank you very much for getting back to me. So I understand we need a spherical panorama and shall NOT use the camera panorama mode. On that point you mentioned in the video that it is possible to use a regular wide angle lens rather than fisheye lens. Will the REGULAR WIDE ANGLE lens create a spherical panorama that we need? I would prefer using the wide angle lens rather than fisheye if that's possible. Thanks again for your reply.
@@notearsinheaven9445 hey there NTIH. Yes a wide angle lens or even telephoto lens can be used. And in fact you can get better resolution. The problem is that it will require many more shots, and shooting positions that are harder to remember, which means more chances of errors.
Ok, thank you very much:)
Thank you for the tutorial. Quick question. Can the PanoronaStudio create virtual tour?
Tanvirul Islam hi Tanvirul! Panorama Studio is only for stitching. There are many software for creating a virtual tour. here is one that is easy! ua-cam.com/video/xsDK4csf_UU/v-deo.html
360Rumors.com thanks for reply. I already watched lots of your videos. Very helpful. I am google trusted photographer. I can create virtual tour in google map. But looking for desktop software that i can create virtual tour. Thanks again for your tips.
Tanvirul Islam there are many such as kr2pano. Pls join facebook.com/groups/virtualtournetwork
Hi Tanvirul. The link I showed you is for Kuula, which is very easy to use and can be used on desktop or mobile. But there are many software for creating tours on desktop. Kr2pano, Kolor panotour, and pano2vr are some of the most popular options. Also, please join facebook.com/groups/virtualtournetwork Best regards, mic
Thanks for your reply. very helpful. I requested to join.
I understand manual exposure to avoid exposure differents and WB affecting the colors. But why must use manual focus?? Isn't it risky that the video will not be sharp?
Hi Wisnu. If you use autofocus, there is a chance that focus might change between shots. And if you use the right technique, manual focus will be sharp everywhere.
Hi Mic, finally I've got a good friend who doesn't mind to bring me a Nodal Ninja 3 mk3 from the US as I can't get it here in my country. I have a budget of around USD 1000 for a camera, would the Sony a6400 good enough for interior, exterior and landscape virtual tours? And which lens would give the best possible resolution for this setup. Thank you again, Mic, you've been a great help for us here :)
Hi there uav hans! Yes sony a6400 would be a great choice. For high resolution i recommend samyang 8mm 2.8 II. You will need 8 shots (1 zenith, 6 around, 1 nadir).
@@360vroomers thanks for the kind response, Mic!
Sure thing buddy! BTW there is a 10% discount code for Nodal Ninja: 360r10 :D
@@360vroomers hello again Mic. A friend of mine recommended to get the full frame Sony A7iii. Would you recommend this and which lens to get the best possible resolution out of it? Thank you :)
Hello. Why are the images in RAW format (ARW) from Sony alpha 6300 not displayed by Windows? What do I have to do so that I can get a preview of the pictures on Windows? I would like to continue editing the images in Affinity photo. Thank you.
All you have to do is install the free raw image extension from microsoft. 😀
Hi Mike, I have a full frame Nikon D850 and which lens do you recommend? I want maximum quality but less shots.
Hi Pixinity. Try this guide 360rumors.com/lens-use-360-panorama-fisheye-lens-comparison-chart/
@@360vroomers Hey Mike, one more thing, what's the difference between the Sigma 8mm and Samyang? Officially Sigma 8mm is for Full frame and Sanyang is not, but somewhere it says it is for Full frame. So using the Sigma you shoot less images and Samyang you shoot more? I'm really confused, I want to buy one tomorrow for my D850.
What Model is that Nodal Ninja Pano head and best place to purchase? Thanks!
S.J. Owens thanks for asking SJ! The one i used is nodal ninja 3. It is the entry level panohead for fanotec and can accommodate mirrorless cams or small DSLRs with lenses up to around 50mm. I used Nodal Ninja 3 mk II but they just released a new one called mk iii. The manufacturer is selling directly on ebay here ebay.to/2KYLRiq
Before i got nodal ninja i tried a low cost pano head and nodal ninja is more reliable (less stitching error). After i tried nodal ninja, I kept the nodal ninja 😀
Best regards,
Mic
I saw a 360 with no zenith or nadir, how was that achieved? Also, how high should you position the camera?6ft?
Hi Robert. The tripod got removed in postprocessing. See this tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/HyLkNBwoXGs/v-deo.html For the camera height, I recommend around chin height.
Hey Mic, do you know which dslr is the best for 360 regarding sharpness and dynamic range? Regards, Chris
Hi Chris! For dynamic range, it's about the sensor. If you look at DXO, the top sensors are either Sony, or Nikon (most Nikon sensors are by Sony). For sharpness, Nikon and Canon tend to have the best lenses, but Samyang is also well regarded.
If you consider both the dynamic range and sharpness, then in my opinion the most logical choice is Sony because they have excellent sensors and because of its short flange distance, sony e-mount can use lenses from almost any manufacturer, incuding Canon, Nikon and Samyang (both DSLR and mirrorless lenses).
When you use adapted lenses, you usually don't have native compatibility so you lose things like autofocus and auto exposure but those aren't so important for panoramas anyway :) 360rumors.com/2018/07/dslr-vs-mirrorless-full-frame-vs-aps-c-best-camera-360-panoramic-photos.html
Best regards,
Mic
360Rumors.com thanks, i think the sony a7rii and a7riii must be great camera's for 360. If i upgrade to full frame can i use the samyang 7.5 mm MFT or do i have to buy an adapter or shave the edges?
Hi Chris yes the a7rii and a7riii would be great. Samyang 7.5mm is a good lens if you will use APS-C cameras like a6500.
For full frame, Samyang 7.5 is not a good lens. A better lens for full frame is the Samyang 8mm, and yes you need to shave the lens hood. There are tutorials for it. With the shaved Samyang 8mm, you can take a 360 photo with 4 shots. If you are willing to take 8 shots, then you can get the Samyang 12mm 2.8 instead (the fisheye lens, not the 12mm f/2 ultrawide). Best regards, Mic
360Rumors.com thank you very much Mic. This is usefull information. Regards, Chris
Glad to help, my friend!
Hi there,
I am having a Sony Alpha A6000 DSLR Camera.
Will a Sony SEL057FEC Fish Eye Converted (105 Degree FOV fish eye lens) enough to do a complete 360 Degree Panorama? My worry is even If I do 8 horizontal shots, will I be needing two vertical shots due to the reduced FOV?
Please explain. Thanks in advance.
Fish eye link www.amazon.in/dp/B00UJRSM1I/ref=gno_cart_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A24EO4R1FIR3GJ
Hi Balaji. This is not a good lens for a6000 because it is designed for full frame and because it is only a converter not a lens. To avoid getting the wrong equipment, I highly recommend waiting for my DSLR training class.
dear Mic, will keep a long story short. bought a camera and 8mm fisheye, a nodal ninja panorama head and stitch them in ptgui. The panoramas are fantastic and I get a jpeg at the end. Now the question that I can't figure out: How do I show them to customers and how do I place them on street view. Thank you in advance for your help.
Congrats Ernst! The easiest way to share them is to upload to a 360 photo sharing site. There are dozens and dozens of them. The most prominent of them are probably Google Street View and Facebook. You can even upload it to Google Photos, although you will lose some detail. You can also upload to a dedicated 360 photo sharing site such as Kuula.co.
And there's the problem Mic, I would like to upload them to streetview, but how to do that from a desktop. th files ar in a folder on the desktop. thanks so much for you help allready@@360vroomers
I use an 8mm on a full frame camera. When scroll horizontally on my VR, objects on the left and right edges of the image look stretched. Is that normal or is it caused by the focal length of the lens. Lot of photographers use 12mm on a full frame camera. Appreciate your feedback.
Hi Faro. The distortion you are seeing does not have anything to do with the focal length. It is because you are viewing in rectilinear projection and the zoom level is too wide.
@@360vroomers Excuse my ignorance, what is rectilinear projection ? I lock the horizontal movement in my VR.Does that have anything to do with the distortions?By zoom level too high, do you mean I am zooming in too much in VR? Thank you for your help.
I added a video logo that I shot with Samsung gear 360. then uploaded to youtube. There are dots under and over the video. what are the reasons for this. did you have an idea 😔😔
Hasan Çelik hi Hasan. Maybe the ratio was not exactly 2:1
Hi
I am going to buy a Panohead.
My thoughts are between the R20 Google and the Panohead NN6.
I must make virtual tour of rooms inside an office building for my firm, not to sell.
Is the R20 goog enough? I would like it to be easy to shoot and the I have to stitch it later. I Understand that the R20 can not shoot downwards, but is this needed? Just to show an office building for clients?
Hi Palle. R20 is good enough. Be sure the lens you choose is wide enough so that you can shoot it with only 4 shots. What camera do you have?
@@360vroomers I have a Canon 6D full frame and Canon 8-15mm lens. Would the R1 be better? Or would the R20 work just fine?
Hi Mic, I am a subscriber and have your blog as a shortcut.
Could you do tutorial on the cheapest set-up to create photo spheres with a smartphone and tripod? - using google street view on android phone.
This would help greatly with under privileged members of the community. I teach in such areas in the UK and many cannot afford such the setup you show. Please see this as a creative challenge with such constraints. You would also help address the so called "digital divide". Blessings to you. :)
Hi William. Thanks for watching 360R all this time! It is possible to take a 360 photo with just an android phone and the google camera app, but the results will not be good. It is probably better to get a Gear 360 2016 or 2017. The only issue is whether you or your students have a compatible phone or PC. Here is my review of the 2017 360rumors.com/2018/07/gear-360-2017-review-2018.html God bless you and your ministry.
will this lens (samyang f/2.8 II) work well on a sony a73?
Hi Edward. Yes the Samyang 8mm 2.8 II can work on a7 III. On FF, you need to shave off the hood. Then you'll be able to take 4 photos, single row, with better resolution than a circular fisheye. Alternatively, you can try the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 with removable hood. But I haven't tried that lens yet.
360Rumors hi mic, are you refering the Samyang 8mm Hood Detachable (HD)
Which format of 360 is better to upload to facebook? PNG or JPG? Png file is like 5x bigger. Let me know your suggestion.
Best Regards,
Hi Mykolas. Just upload as JPG. PNG is too large for facebook. 👍
Won’t you get distortion and vinetting with a fisheye? Will a wide angle lens work?
Hi Robert! When the fisheye photos are stitched together and reprojected as a 360 photo, you can choose to use rectilinear projection, which will have no distortion. The stitching software will also usually have vignetting correction.
Thanks Mic, your the best! The problem I’m having is I have a Mi Sphere and a Gear 2017 and I’m happy with the workflow of the Gear but have been unable to get a live view on my Mi Sphere. Also I’m a little unhappy with the image quality, I want them to be much sharper! So, maybe a dslr or mirrorless or maybe even a medium format may be best. I have another question that I would like to ask you, can you email me at RobertEAlexander71@gmail.com
Thankyou
@@robertalexander2478 hey there Robert. If you want more detail, yes a dslr pano will give that to you. It just depends on how many shots you want to take. 4? 8? From there, you work backwards and find out what lens and panohead you will need.
R u reading my mind???just today morning I ordered Nodal Ninja 2 MK3 I have Sony A3 and Sony 6300 with samyang 8mm.will stich in PTgui.ans soon send .a sample.waiting for NN3 to reach India..
I hypnotized you into buying a nodal ninja! 😉
360Rumors.com ha..ha.. Inception......!!!!....
Hi Mike, I have a Nikon D7100 crop sensor camera body with a Nikon 10-24mm series G lens. Can I shoot high quality 360 degree pano photos with this equipment or do I have to purchase a 8mm fisheye lens? I am a relatively new real estate photographer and want to get into 360 pano photography. Which Nodal Ninja do you recommend? (to save money: what are your thoughts on alternative pano heads such as Neewer, Cowboy Studio, DSLRKIT 360° and Sunwayfoto 360?)
Hey there Lenny. Re 10-24, it can work, as can almost any lens. In fact it will provide higher 360 resolution than the fisheye lens I used. But compared to a fisheye lens, it will take more shots, and the shooting pattern will be a bit more complicated. For that reason I recommend getting the Samyang 8mm 3.5 instead. amzn.to/2I6yXlg
I recommend nodal ninja 3 (use the code 360r10 to get a 10% discount). you can get other brands. my first one was sunwayfoto. but after i tried nodal ninja, i found nodal ninja is more repeatable.
@@360vroomers Hi Mike. Well, I did it. I took your advice and I purchased the Samyang SYHD8M-N 8mm f/3.5 HD Fisheye Fixed Lens with Removable Hood for Nikon online today and waiting for the delivery. I have been using my 10-24mm lens up to now. I have had some stitching problems with the 10-24, especially in empty homes. I guess the blank walls and the empty floors confuses PTGui. Hopefully, the 180-degree angle of view of the Samyang will resolve that problem. My new lens is the CS2 version. Will my camera recognize the new lens or do I have to set it up as a Non-CPU lens? Do I have to change any settings in PTGui to recognize this lens? Please answer these questions and any other advice will be appreciated.
@@PhotographyByLenny Congrats Lenny! The Nikon will not recognize the Samyang automatically. No need for setup. Just use manual mode or aperture priority, then use the aperture ring to control aperture. In PTGui, it will have no lens metadata, so just enter the focal length 8mm and "generic fisheye" and if you click on the generic fisheye dropdown box, you'll see one of them is Samyang 8mm 3.5.
@@360vroomers Thanks Mike for the fast response. You're the best.
@@PhotographyByLenny thanks buddy! Enjoy your new lens!
Can you please mention the tripod used in this shoot?
Hi Sandi. For this one I used a light stand. But normally I use a tripod for maximum stability.
I have a 60d with a Tokina 11-16mm Cine Lens, which Panohead and mount should I get? .... and can I even use this type of lens for 360 Spherical Panoramic shots?
Musique Decor Multimedia hi Musique. Yes you can use a Tokina 11-16 (just make sure you dont change the zoom while shooting the pano. You can uze nodal ninja 3 as long as the total length of thr lens and camera is 11cm or less.
360Rumors.com Thanks again, wheres the best place to buy the Nodal Ninja 3?
thanks Musique. You can get it from shop.nodalninja.com . To get a 10% discount, use the code 360r10 during checkout :D
360Rumors.com one more question , which version?
i recommend nodal ninja 3 mk 3. if you want to use longer lenses, then get nodal ninja 6.
You took one more shot without the tripod to remove that but you didn't use it, how we can use it?
I can't find link to pano head for go pro. Can you help me out with a link? Thank you.
Hi J. If you want a panohead for gopro, check out the pano5+1 or the panohero. Here are videos about them:
Pano5+1 ua-cam.com/video/UvjH31KdBpA/v-deo.html
Panohero: ua-cam.com/video/oqHXQlF9QnQ/v-deo.html
Please note that you'll have to make sure you use the same exposure and white balance for each shot.
@@360vroomers thank you!
Your videos are inspiring and motivating, Can I shoot 360 pictures with a Cannon 600D using a EFS 10-18mm f4,5,- 5,6 IS STM lens? I have a Benro T600EX (Photo & video tripod.
Will this equipment be enough to shoot 360 photography at a professional level? Please advice.
Thanks Michael! Yes you can get great photos with that. Just remember that you need to find the nodal point for each focal length that you use. The hyperfocal distance will also change with focal length. But you can get great photos from that. For the number of shots, i dont know with those focal lengths but ensure 30 to 50% overlap between each shot. Have fun and welcome to the club 😉
Best regards,
Mic
Thanks Mic for the advice. Please explain "that you need to find the nodal point for each focal length that you use" I would love to understand this a little more. As I have tried, I am not fully satisfied with the way the output turns out. I do overlap the shots by 50% at least. Its the indoor shots that I cant seem to be satisfied with.
Hi Michael. That means that if you use an 8-15 zoom and you use it at 8mm, it has a certain nodal point. If you use it at 15mm it has another nodal point. But if you use the same lens at the same focal length all the time, then you don't need to worry about it.
Re output, do you mean that there are stitching errors? If that's the case, maybe you could try to be more precise with finding the nodal point.
Also, are you rendering? The preview will look rough so you need to actually render it.
Best regards,
Mic
Thanks Mic for your reply. Usually I try not to touch the lens. Generally what I do is to set the camera position and lens at a best point around the room and rotate it 360 to check if the entire room is covered. Then I shoot. Is this a good practice? Yes there are stitching errors. And yes i do render the pictures. May be I have missed out on finding the Nodal point.
I have tried stitching with Kolor Autopano giga 4.4 Trial Version. Also used On one trial version.Once perfect and satisfied will invest in a full version.
Regards
Michael
Oh i see... Finding the nodal point is a critical step. See around 05:50 of the video. You need to do that before shooting. Best regards, Mic
I have D750 + sigma 5mm. Can NN3 MK3 ok for 360?
Hi Duspendra. I think you mean Sigma 8mm right (I haven't heard of a Sigma 5mm)? If so then yes D750 with Sigma 8mm can work with NN3 mk3.
@@360vroomers Thanks for prompt response. How about D750 + 105mm for landscape? Do you prefer NN6 over NN3?
@@PushpendraMatharu Hi I don't have 105mm but see the total length of the lens + the body. If the total length is under 12cm you can use NN3.
how about if there is no poll and I'm shooting inside a venue or restaurant?
Sorry what do you mean 'no poll'?
@@360vroomers i meant pole
@@petenicezz Oh ok. Actually for a 360 panorama, it is better to use a tripod not a monopod. If you are some place that doesn't allow a tripod, that is very hard to take a 360 panorama, and you are probably better off with a 360 camera. i hope that helps!
@@360vroomers Alright, thank you.
Is it suitable for 360 photography with DSLR
Yes you can use this with a dslr to take 360 photos. Pls see my complete tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/3hP_8eZTGiw/v-deo.htmlsi=cO-hOvk-tpTiu_xG
Hello, I am a 360 Photographer & Currently using Canon M. Want to upgrade with Camera. But confused between Sony a7rii & Sony a7iii.. Which would you suggest for better results..
Thanks in advance..
Thanks Amit! Hmm that is a tough choice! a7RIII would be best but between a7RII and a7iii, I guess I would recommend A7RII for the higher resolution. :D best regards, mic
360Rumors.com but in between A7ii & A7rii which one would u prefer?
Sorry for giving you trouble Mic
No worries my friend. In that case i would choose a7Rii for sure!
360Rumors.com Thank You Mic.. It was pleasure talkin with you..
Sorry, I wanted to ask you in between A7iii & A7rii..
Hi Mic,
I am interested in buying the Nodal Ninja 3 Mk 3. and its not available from where I am coming from. Would it be possible for you to arrange it for me and send it across to India? whats the cost including shipping (customs - if it applies) etc? That would be g8 to take my 360 panoramic photography to the next level.
Thanks
Regards
Michael
Hi Michael that sounds great! hmm i could send it for you to India. I know a viewer from India who got an insta360 pro quickly using Fedex, so I can inquire about the cost if you'd like. How about it?
Hi Mic,
Good news that it can be sent. Please go ahead and do let me know all details including mode of payment.
Thanks
Regards
Michael
Alright i will find out for you!
360Rumors.com any luck on the info on sending the Nodal Ninja 3mk3.
what's your city and zip code? send me an email so i can tell you how much fedex will charge 360rumors.com/contact-me
What if I don't have Fisheye Lens, is it still possible to do this?
Yes it is possible but it will take more shots. With more shots, there is a higher chance of errors. With a 28mm lens for example you need 10 shots. With 50mm lens you need 18 shots.
Is there an alternative add-on lens that I can put on top of the original lens to make the shot looks fisheye?
@@ave1996 There are wide angle converters but they are all horrible. You're better off buying an inexpensive fisheye lens. Which camera do you have?
I have Nikon D3200, I really want to buy the Theta but I can’t afford it and for now I can’t buy expensive add-on for my camera. I need to make HDRI for my 3d project. And watching this video, gives me a lot of hope.
@@ave1996 You can buy a fisheye lens for Nikon for $130. amzn.to/2Ah5tLD is that within your budget? If not, you can just shoot with your regular lens. You will just need to take more photos, that's all.
Can we use this with Mobile???
You can, but it will take a lot of shots, so it is not really practical in my opinion. Another option for smartphones are motorized tripods that can shoot and stitch with a phone automatically, but it will have some stitching errors.
@@360vroomers thank you for info can u please paste some link for such motorized tripod
Great video but you are not using a DSLR. That is a mirrorless camera.
Yes you're right. I think in the video i did say that.
hi budy its me kevin again from argentina. . I been matterport user 6 years in a row but here we are having several economic problems so sells are low. Im looking from substitutions witouth loosing quality. I have a Sony a7r ii and a 24-70 lens. I talk to bhphoto and they recommend me the syrp 2-axis genie mini motion ( bhpho.to/2HtWhIl ) and a rokinon 14mm 2,8 lens EF . Do you think dis will work ? How many photos I will have to take ? In a room of 3mts x 3mts do you think I could deliver a good 360 image ? I have to take horizontal photos only or I will need vertical photos too ? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE YOU ARE THE BEST
Hiii can u plz answer ?!?