I liked it when Jaime called Tommen their "baby boy". It's one of the few times Jaime openly displays love for their children, and I like seeing that side of him.
That broke my heart. Absolutely despised her when i thought of this moment. Jamie loved them and you know she didn’t because if she did then she wouldn’t let her ego get in the way. Myrcella and tommen were the only tragic deaths in house lannister.
@@BlackDiamond2718 False. How many parents irl love their kids in their own way, but also let ego get in the way? Like almost all parents. Sure most don’t go the Cersei route, but parents are only human. They’re egotistical.
@@Jocelyn_Jade The thing is that they play with parenting like it's a toy. It is not a toy. This is their fucking lives that you are messing with. Like God playing with humanity (for religious people).
I think Cersei also feels some guilt for his death. She knows damn well he killed himself because of what she did. But is unwilling to admit or confront that she played a part in her sons suicide.
@@thalmoragent9344 The only way she could survive her trial was by requesting a trial by combat. Tommen agreed to abolish it prior to her trial. He basically sentenced her to death.
@@here444now He chose the faith over his own mother. The Faith of the Seven is a big deal in Westeros. So much so that the Targaryen Dynasty had a VERY rough time after Aegon died. Aenys, Maegor, Rhaena and Aegon the Uncrowned, as well as Jaehaerys and Alysanne even after "peace" was restored ALL had a helluva time in part due to the Faith Militant. He got rid of trial by combat yes, but it's very understandable why he chose Faith/Religion over his mother at that moment given he was an impressionable kid that though the High Septon was the true authority, which in many ways, he is.
Calling Olenna a traitor is pretty hypocritical of Cersei considering she killed Olenna’s son and two grandchildren. Did she expect her to forget that and side with her?
I like the contrast between how Jaime and Cersei view the situation. Cersei lists off Jon Snow, Sansa Stark, Olenna Tyrell, Ellaria Sand, and Daenerys Targaryen. When she does she's listing off traitors who must be crushed. But all Jaime hears is that the armies of Dorne and Highgarden have rallied behind an army of Dothraki and Unsullied and three dragons and that the north has seceded from the seven kingdoms at the worst possible time. Cersei is vengeful and sees a fight she thinks she can win. All Jaime sees is a situation where one way or another they're fucked
@@rayleigh8 yeah its insane that because of tyrions words ( basically his only strength) he basically destroyed half of his own allies. They could have taken kings landing much earlier if not for him
@@aminiqbal4907 What bothers me is Sansa never murdered anyone in the Lannister household,and Cersei is still in denial! Truly Cersei is a moronic whore! Sansa is a noble woman that Cersei will never be! Boom roasted
She's clearly not counting Tyrion and never has in his life. To her, Tyrion is not just a traitor but the murderer of her mother, father and eldest son. That's all she sees when she so much as thinks of him and all she's ever seen. Much like with Tywin, Cersei will never count Tyrion for anything.
@@chideraobi7234 I wouldn't be so certain to say that. Yes, his psychical disability caused him to earn his father's hatred. Yet being a dwarf wasn't the only reason why Tywin hated his son. He "killed" Joanna on the childbirth. That was another reason. And if Tyrion weren't a dwarf, he wouldn't be the same Tyrion we know. Yes, he would be smart still, but not the funny, book smart Tyrion we know. He reads books because he knows his wits and sharp-tongue are all he has, he doesn't have power like Tywin and is not a warrior like Jaime. So he did his best to sharpen the only weapon he has: his intelligence. Also, because of his unattractive and deformed appearance, Tyrion was unloved and rejected, he had lonely childhood because of that, so he found comfort in the books. If he were born a tall, strong and handsome men like Jaime, he wouldn't be lonely nor be interested in the books that way.
@@teamblack204 ur wrong, next time read the books and ur understand better, tywin hated tyrion because he saw himself in him more than in cersei or jamie, tyrion had his wisdom and he hated that jamie didnt had that
I think this was the point that Jaime realised that Cersei was too narcissistic and overconfident, and that ignoring her was the only way it (Westeros) was going to survive. As Tyrion said to Daenerys, "you're going to have to inspire devotion", which is something Daenerys understands when he tells it to her and Cersei ignores when Jaime attempts to tell it to her.
"I think" xD This dialogue is so simple and shovelware that it says it directly, the dialogues in that season had no other second meaning, foreshadowing, nothing, so you have to be an idiot to look for a second bottom or another meaning
@@jimmy2k4ook now that is complicated because usually people that commit suicide thinks they have no choice, and their tired. sometimes family isn’t enough to them anymore 😢
How Cersei loved her children -Joffrey, spoiled and gave him more attention because he was the oldest -Myrcella, favorite child but never managed to connect as we as she hoped -Tommen, only loved and paid attention to him when she had to.
@@nav7506 he was her clear favorite he was her golden Child go read books even in the show she said there is nothing you love the way you love your 1st child
She loved Joffrey more because he was ruthless, like she can be. She loved Myrcella too. She was the kind one and her only daughter. Tommen disappointed her because he didn’t take charge and wasn’t ruthless like she needed him to be.
She absolutely loves her children. But she’s not Caitlyn and emotional mother, she’s a practical strict mother. But at the end of the day she did loved them. Villains can also love their kids.
She was either delusional or incredibly stupid to believe she could take on Dorne, the Tyrells, the entire North, and Daenerys (3 dragons, 100K Dothraki, and 8K unsullied) all at once. She tries so hard to be Tywin and comes up short each and every time.
To be fair on her she almost beat them, mostly because of tyrion's ineptitude and the night king. Look what dany had vs what grey worm sailed away with.
@@mappingshaman5280the only reason why she almost won is because they weren’t willing to be as ruthless as her. They all had morals and shreds of honor whereas Cersei has none. Also they were focused on beating the army of the dead while Cersei was being dishonest and only caring for herself.
1:58 the tower of joy is there. Its said in the books that when eddard was finished there, he tore that tower down. Guess cersei kind of forgot that tower no longer exists.
Dialogue here is actually decent for late-GOT standards. They even discuss the logistical aspect of fighting a war (especially in winter), which is never a factor in Dany's army somehow, despite the dragons and tens of thousands of Dothraki. A scorched earth campaign from Cersei would've made sense and could've set up an even more miserable endgame fight against the NK.
Kind of amazing that they never figured out who did it. Arya told the girl "the north remembers" so you would think that someone would've realized that it was one of the Starks.
Ooh! Dynamic and intriguing foreshadowing for an insanely emotional final confrontation perhaps??? Oh wait.. (I will never forgive Dumb and Dumber btw)
It’s interesting to see the warped psychology of Cersei at play here. She lists off egregious acts committed (both things he’s actually done and things she’s accusing him of doing) by Tyrion to both shame Jaime and get the point across the point that she was “right” about him the whole time. Never, at any point, does she stop and ask herself “why” he did these things and what brought him to that point. That’s how her warped, psychotic, narcissistic brain operates. She’s never responsible for ANY of the misfortune that has befallen her in her own mind. It’s always someone, or something else (usually Tyrion). She hated her father, knew what a piece of shit he was, knew how rigged Tyrion’s trial was, but because she was finally going to be rid of the little brother who had “done her wrong” by, well………existing on the same planet as her, she was okay with it. Now all of a sudden, Tyrion (rightfully) puts that old piece of shit 6 feet under (Tywin had that coming for decades), and NOW she suddenly doesn’t hate her father anymore? Does she not realize how unreasonable, irrational and stupid she sounds? Or is there just a “common sense” filter in her brain that filters out any sort of logic or reason when it comes to dealing with others who have “wronged her”…….
It's because despite what she tells herself and others, she is the dumbest Lannister alive (existed). Even her spineless grandfather was smarter in how he didn't piss off literally every single individual he perceived as an enemy. Imagine the might of a proper Lannister/Tyrell alliance had she made inroads with Margery instead of making the decision at every turn to make a show of public importance of her being the queen in overall continental power. We can see just how much it infuriated her when her Uncle told her in polite terms to fuck off the the noble lady gallery, away from her accustomed seat next to the perceived center of power; The Iron Throne.
basically everything you said is right except for “she always hated her 😅father” . Cersei never hated him ,she always craved the love from her father ! always wanted to outsmart and be better than her brothers , she always tried to show that she provided the most to the things that her father cared about! basically “hey father i should be your favourite child”
Yeah and then she continues listing off the enemies that she made. Olenna - she betrayed her and killed both her grandchildren, Jon and Sansa - she allowed her son to kill their father and let Sansa be tormented in King’s Landing. She speaks about them as traitors but doesn’t entertain the fact that they were wronged first
Tyrion shipped of Myrcella to Dorne, the place she was murdered. He did that to spite Cersei and later apologized. But you can’t undo that. Never fuck with someone’s kids.
Cato Sicarius Her IQ and strategic insight just mysteriously evolved in the last two episodes of season 6. I think the inconsistency was from the lack of book sources.
@@ajt5284 perhaps, I think you could say to make her character even more interesting she could have gone through a learning curve after being careless with re arming of the sparrows
I wouldn't consider Show!Cersei as smarter though. However, she's a much better political player in the show than she is in the books. Yet, it's not due to her increased intelligence. Show!Cersei is less arrogant and impulsive than she comes across in the books. She's also far less delusional and paranoid, and definitely being more morally driven. In the show, she immediately understands that it was Jaime who freed Tyrion. But in the books, she thought it was Tyrells. And she also believed that Tyrion didn't escape, but instead he was hiding under the Red Keep and plotting to slave Tommen. That's how paranoid she is...
Jaime saying that the Tyrell’s stood with Daenerys because she looked like the winning side is surprisingly ignorant for this point of his character arc. He was usually a voice of reason at this point however I think it was pretty obvious Olenna didn’t care about being on the winning team, she just wanted to cause as much pain for Cersei as she could before her inevitable death
Cersei: You've been quiet since you came home. You angry with me? Jamie: Considering that you usurped the crown from our son and he killed himself, YEAH IM FUCKING PISSED!!
You forghet that I nuke the biggest church on the continent with a lot of people insisde and somehow the peasants do not put my head on a pike "Three kingdoms at best ' which one seriously ? , how did they still have a army
When this aired, I had this thought: Daenerys has The Reach and Dorne with her Dothraki, Unsullied, a hundred ships of Ironborn against Euron's, and three dragons. That alone would put Cersei at a huge disadvantage against her own rule over the Westernlands (bankrupt), the Stormlands (no lord or army), and the Crownlands (after the uprising and downfall of the Faith Militant). Then add the North allied with the Vale and the Free Folk. Cersei should have been finished. But then season 7 and 8 taught me one thing; David and Dan, the show runners really can't showcase the complex intricacies of warring factions without George. Let alone the themes involving Ice and Fire.
At best, she's queen of two kingdoms. The Crownlands are nominally under her control as the capital and the Westerlands are sworn to House Lannister. The Stormlands are in turmoil with no one to rule them since House Baratheon is legally extinct and Dorne, the Reach, the Riverlands, the Vale and the North are all in open rebellion against her due to very legitimate grievances against either her personally or House Lannister in general.
Jaime concluding their situation is fubar. But Cersei knows she has plot armor for a little while longer cuz the Night King does not speak and is not enough as a lone villain.
“Enemies everywhere. We’re surrounded by traitors.” I don’t know if it’s already been said; Cersei is as wicked, if not, more wicked than the Mad King.
Jamie understood that they were all alone and surrounded by enemies they made while they lost the few small allies they had. Cersei refuses to accept defeat and thinks money magically makes her army stronger or she can just buy more useful allies. At beast she can take out some of her enemies which she did, but there was no winning for her.
Lol no. Tywin would never sound so dumb, he is the mastermind behind many plots that would even tremble Old Valyria. Cersei doesnt even have a tenth of Tywin intelligence.
For sure, the entire country would be against her after that stunt. She wouldn't even last a day on the throne, someone would stab her and open the gates for Daenerys
@@Zeppelin616 yeah honestly. All the great houses are or should be against her. The powerful religious organisation that loved the Sept would be very against her. As well as the other sparrow supporters. The common folk would be (and already were seasons ago), many Lannister soldiers should be since she killed kevan Lannister. Many rich and poor folks were killed in that explosion too. She has Danys armies and dragons coming for her. As well as Dorne, Highgarden, the vale, the starks of winterfell, and the tullys all against her. Freys are dead. Arya the shapeshifting assassing was able to deal with them alone. Idk why she never easily killed cersei that way. The Tarlys were targaryen loyalists and should have sided with Dany. And like this episode said. There was no reason why any house would follow Cersei Lannister to war when winter just started and they're the losing side, and very unlikeable and not trustworthy. Makes no bloody sense. Euron probably would have raided kings landing rather than marry cersie. Show euron was cringe and just a plot device for Cersie.
@@stephenking5852 I don't think it was ever addressed in the show lol. But it should've been obvious since only she and Tommen were absent from the trial.
@@karikim6905 Perhaps people were frightened. A woman who blew up the sacred place of theirs without hesitation was really a frightening monster. They were too afraid to stand to her.
Cersei in the books is basically the future of Dany. Shes corrupt to the core, not nearly as smart as she thinks she is and a worse leader, making every decision a poor one. Everyone who read the books knows this and every character has spoken out about it. But they needed a final boss, so it had to be the incompetent
1:47 Tywin would be so proud of Cersei don't you think? She somehow made the war Joffrey started worse. Surrounded by enemies and even made new ones such as with Dorne and Highgarden. She truly doesn't know what she's doing.
And funny enough, Had Tywin listened, he may still be alive. Cersei didn't trust House Tyrell, understandably so. And she was right. A stronger eye on them saves Joffrey and, in turn, saves him. Tywin knew Tyrion didn't kill Joffrey and he still went along with the bs. Tywin is a beast, but in this situation, he was the dummy.
@@janellejulianajoy The Tyrell's weren't the ones who brought a shoeless zealot into power, and they only turned their back on the kingdom after she blew up more than half of them in the church.
Why is the comments full with idiots who talk nonsens about cersei ? Why these people search cersei scenes if they dont like her😅 is so lame.cersei is so hard not to like.she is the most beautiful,powerful,smartest women on the show.she didnt need dragons,she is so badass and cool just be being her.❤
She's not dumb, she's impulsive and extremely thin skinned. Regardless, no female antagonist lives up to her. It's why she's my favorite. She's a bitch and she owned it.
I liked it when Jaime called Tommen their "baby boy". It's one of the few times Jaime openly displays love for their children, and I like seeing that side of him.
That broke my heart. Absolutely despised her when i thought of this moment. Jamie loved them and you know she didn’t because if she did then she wouldn’t let her ego get in the way. Myrcella and tommen were the only tragic deaths in house lannister.
It's only because Tywin the tyrells and every one of their allies are gone and it's just them in the red keep
@@BlackDiamond2718 False. How many parents irl love their kids in their own way, but also let ego get in the way? Like almost all parents. Sure most don’t go the Cersei route, but parents are only human. They’re egotistical.
@@Jocelyn_Jade The thing is that they play with parenting like it's a toy. It is not a toy. This is their fucking lives that you are messing with. Like God playing with humanity (for religious people).
@@Jocelyn_Jade wouldn't go that far. maybe fourth of parents.
Amazing how Cersei killed Ollena’s entire family but called her a traitor 🙄. Narcissist through and through.
They really made her an absolute delusional cunt in the last two seasons.
You can actually see that she's hurt by Tommen's betrayal and death. As soon as Jaime mentions him, she goes for the wine and her voice is broken.
I think Cersei also feels some guilt for his death. She knows damn well he killed himself because of what she did. But is unwilling to admit or confront that she played a part in her sons suicide.
I don't think it was a "betrayal" on Tommen's part. How did he "betray" her?
@@thalmoragent9344 The only way she could survive her trial was by requesting a trial by combat. Tommen agreed to abolish it prior to her trial. He basically sentenced her to death.
@@davideiceman exactly. He outlawed trial by combat knowing the Mountain was her only hope. He chose the High Sparrow and zealotry over his own mother
@@here444now
He chose the faith over his own mother.
The Faith of the Seven is a big deal in Westeros. So much so that the Targaryen Dynasty had a VERY rough time after Aegon died. Aenys, Maegor, Rhaena and Aegon the Uncrowned, as well as Jaehaerys and Alysanne even after "peace" was restored ALL had a helluva time in part due to the Faith Militant.
He got rid of trial by combat yes, but it's very understandable why he chose Faith/Religion over his mother at that moment given he was an impressionable kid that though the High Septon was the true authority, which in many ways, he is.
Calling Olenna a traitor is pretty hypocritical of Cersei considering she killed Olenna’s son and two grandchildren. Did she expect her to forget that and side with her?
Yea the writing really fell off
"the septs destruction was a tragic accident"
Pretty much. In the mind of any malignant and narcissistic sociopath, either you're on their side or you're a traitor and enemy.
Didn't Olenna poison Joffrey? Olenna technically killed her own family. She let an innocent, Tyrion, go to trial.
@@taishisingleton7927 that’s true but at this point in the show Cersei didn’t know about Olenna’s betrayal in this scene
I like the contrast between how Jaime and Cersei view the situation. Cersei lists off Jon Snow, Sansa Stark, Olenna Tyrell, Ellaria Sand, and Daenerys Targaryen. When she does she's listing off traitors who must be crushed. But all Jaime hears is that the armies of Dorne and Highgarden have rallied behind an army of Dothraki and Unsullied and three dragons and that the north has seceded from the seven kingdoms at the worst possible time. Cersei is vengeful and sees a fight she thinks she can win. All Jaime sees is a situation where one way or another they're fucked
Well she was kind of right, thanks to Tyrion who kept weakening Daenerys.
@@rayleigh8 yeah its insane that because of tyrions words ( basically his only strength) he basically destroyed half of his own allies. They could have taken kings landing much earlier if not for him
@@oliverrasmusson2362 gotta keep cersei in the game somehow because the show runners hated the white walkers and their CGI dependent army
@@valuebrandmelkor5973 that's not such a stretch is it
@@aminiqbal4907 What bothers me is Sansa never murdered anyone in the Lannister household,and Cersei is still in denial! Truly Cersei is a moronic whore! Sansa is a noble woman that Cersei will never be! Boom roasted
Cersei: "We're the last lannisters who count."
Tyrion: "Gee thanks sis."
Cersei probably wants him dead more than anyone
She's clearly not counting Tyrion and never has in his life. To her, Tyrion is not just a traitor but the murderer of her mother, father and eldest son. That's all she sees when she so much as thinks of him and all she's ever seen. Much like with Tywin, Cersei will never count Tyrion for anything.
Cerci: "You think I listened to father for 40 years and learned nothing?"
Everyone: Uhh, yeah pretty much.
In the books, yeah. But in the show, Cersei was Tywin's true heir.
@@teamblack204 she wasn't she made stupid decisions for pretty petty and dumb reasons.
@@teamblack204I honestly believe that if Tyrion wasn’t a dwarf he would’ve been Tywin’s true heir
@@chideraobi7234 I wouldn't be so certain to say that. Yes, his psychical disability caused him to earn his father's hatred. Yet being a dwarf wasn't the only reason why Tywin hated his son. He "killed" Joanna on the childbirth. That was another reason. And if Tyrion weren't a dwarf, he wouldn't be the same Tyrion we know. Yes, he would be smart still, but not the funny, book smart Tyrion we know. He reads books because he knows his wits and sharp-tongue are all he has, he doesn't have power like Tywin and is not a warrior like Jaime. So he did his best to sharpen the only weapon he has: his intelligence. Also, because of his unattractive and deformed appearance, Tyrion was unloved and rejected, he had lonely childhood because of that, so he found comfort in the books. If he were born a tall, strong and handsome men like Jaime, he wouldn't be lonely nor be interested in the books that way.
@@teamblack204 ur wrong, next time read the books and ur understand better, tywin hated tyrion because he saw himself in him more than in cersei or jamie, tyrion had his wisdom and he hated that jamie didnt had that
I think this was the point that Jaime realised that Cersei was too narcissistic and overconfident, and that ignoring her was the only way it (Westeros) was going to survive. As Tyrion said to Daenerys, "you're going to have to inspire devotion", which is something Daenerys understands when he tells it to her and Cersei ignores when Jaime attempts to tell it to her.
"I think" xD This dialogue is so simple and shovelware that it says it directly, the dialogues in that season had no other second meaning, foreshadowing, nothing, so you have to be an idiot to look for a second bottom or another meaning
3:00 "We're the last of us"
HE SAID IT! HE SAID THE THING!
Poor little Tommen. Least loved by his own mother. She called him a traitor for killing himself out of grief because she murdered his wife.
She called him a traitor because he outlawed trial by combat.
Killing your self is betraying your family.
You’re killing somebody they love.
How is that not a huge betrayal?
@@jimmy2k4ook now that is complicated because usually people that commit suicide thinks they have no choice, and their tired. sometimes family isn’t enough to them anymore 😢
This is a different persona of Cersei completely she’s abandoned who she used to be. She only seeks revenge this point further.
@@jimmy2k4o What a shit take.
How Cersei loved her children
-Joffrey, spoiled and gave him more attention because he was the oldest
-Myrcella, favorite child but never managed to connect as we as she hoped
-Tommen, only loved and paid attention to him when she had to.
Joffrey was her favorite by far
@@saketadarsh7606 she might have paid more attention to him but that wasn't because he was her favorite.
@@nav7506 he was her clear favorite he was her golden Child go read books even in the show she said there is nothing you love the way you love your 1st child
She loved Joffrey more because he was ruthless, like she can be. She loved Myrcella too. She was the kind one and her only daughter. Tommen disappointed her because he didn’t take charge and wasn’t ruthless like she needed him to be.
She absolutely loves her children. But she’s not Caitlyn and emotional mother, she’s a practical strict mother. But at the end of the day she did loved them. Villains can also love their kids.
All those insults, and they perfectly describe who you are, Cersei Lannister. And I’ll be sure to put those insults on your tombstone.
She insults more people than she can kill herself
Are you talking to... yourself?
A usurping, murdering whoring bitch.
You are delusional😅
Never Give Up Without A Fight
She was either delusional or incredibly stupid to believe she could take on Dorne, the Tyrells, the entire North, and Daenerys (3 dragons, 100K Dothraki, and 8K unsullied) all at once.
She tries so hard to be Tywin and comes up short each and every time.
Delusional=Cersei.
To be fair on her she almost beat them, mostly because of tyrion's ineptitude and the night king. Look what dany had vs what grey worm sailed away with.
@@mappingshaman5280the only reason why she almost won is because they weren’t willing to be as ruthless as her. They all had morals and shreds of honor whereas Cersei has none. Also they were focused on beating the army of the dead while Cersei was being dishonest and only caring for herself.
@@FTTBALLright that how you play the game of thrones. Exploit your enemies weaknesses and be willing to do things they won’t.
1:58 the tower of joy is there. Its said in the books that when eddard was finished there, he tore that tower down. Guess cersei kind of forgot that tower no longer exists.
Dialogue here is actually decent for late-GOT standards. They even discuss the logistical aspect of fighting a war (especially in winter), which is never a factor in Dany's army somehow, despite the dragons and tens of thousands of Dothraki. A scorched earth campaign from Cersei would've made sense and could've set up an even more miserable endgame fight against the NK.
They did after the news the Tyrells fell and the other Reach Lords sided with Cersei, they brought it up that they now loss the food.
Dialogue here is pure cringe what are you on about, Cersei listing each of her enemies one by one and adding an insult afterwards was stupid.
Mentions the Freys.
Arrya: *the north remembers*
Kind of amazing that they never figured out who did it. Arya told the girl "the north remembers" so you would think that someone would've realized that it was one of the Starks.
Cersei is standing on a part of the map known as “the neck,” and Jaime is standing at “the fingers”
Another plotline going nowhere
@@3tusconAKA Was it ever a plotline to begin with? They omitted that part of the prophecy.
Ooh! Dynamic and intriguing foreshadowing for an insanely emotional final confrontation perhaps???
Oh wait..
(I will never forgive Dumb and Dumber btw)
It’s interesting to see the warped psychology of Cersei at play here. She lists off egregious acts committed (both things he’s actually done and things she’s accusing him of doing) by Tyrion to both shame Jaime and get the point across the point that she was “right” about him the whole time. Never, at any point, does she stop and ask herself “why” he did these things and what brought him to that point. That’s how her warped, psychotic, narcissistic brain operates. She’s never responsible for ANY of the misfortune that has befallen her in her own mind. It’s always someone, or something else (usually Tyrion). She hated her father, knew what a piece of shit he was, knew how rigged Tyrion’s trial was, but because she was finally going to be rid of the little brother who had “done her wrong” by, well………existing on the same planet as her, she was okay with it. Now all of a sudden, Tyrion (rightfully) puts that old piece of shit 6 feet under (Tywin had that coming for decades), and NOW she suddenly doesn’t hate her father anymore? Does she not realize how unreasonable, irrational and stupid she sounds? Or is there just a “common sense” filter in her brain that filters out any sort of logic or reason when it comes to dealing with others who have “wronged her”…….
It's because despite what she tells herself and others, she is the dumbest Lannister alive (existed). Even her spineless grandfather was smarter in how he didn't piss off literally every single individual he perceived as an enemy. Imagine the might of a proper Lannister/Tyrell alliance had she made inroads with Margery instead of making the decision at every turn to make a show of public importance of her being the queen in overall continental power. We can see just how much it infuriated her when her Uncle told her in polite terms to fuck off the the noble lady gallery, away from her accustomed seat next to the perceived center of power; The Iron Throne.
She is Hitler
basically everything you said is right except for “she always hated her 😅father” .
Cersei never hated him ,she always craved the love from her father ! always wanted to outsmart and be better than her brothers , she always tried to show that she provided the most to the things that her father cared about! basically “hey father i should be your favourite child”
Yeah and then she continues listing off the enemies that she made. Olenna - she betrayed her and killed both her grandchildren, Jon and Sansa - she allowed her son to kill their father and let Sansa be tormented in King’s Landing. She speaks about them as traitors but doesn’t entertain the fact that they were wronged first
Tyrion shipped of Myrcella to Dorne, the place she was murdered. He did that to spite Cersei and later apologized. But you can’t undo that. Never fuck with someone’s kids.
Cersei would never be remotely this smart in the books i feel like they merged her character with Aegon
Cato Sicarius Her IQ and strategic insight just mysteriously evolved in the last two episodes of season 6. I think the inconsistency was from the lack of book sources.
@@ajt5284 perhaps, I think you could say to make her character even more interesting she could have gone through a learning curve after being careless with re arming of the sparrows
They had to drag on the war or else dany would win
I wouldn't consider Show!Cersei as smarter though. However, she's a much better political player in the show than she is in the books. Yet, it's not due to her increased intelligence.
Show!Cersei is less arrogant and impulsive than she comes across in the books. She's also far less delusional and paranoid, and definitely being more morally driven.
In the show, she immediately understands that it was Jaime who freed Tyrion. But in the books, she thought it was Tyrells. And she also believed that Tyrion didn't escape, but instead he was hiding under the Red Keep and plotting to slave Tommen. That's how paranoid she is...
Which Aegon would that be?
Jaime saying that the Tyrell’s stood with Daenerys because she looked like the winning side is surprisingly ignorant for this point of his character arc. He was usually a voice of reason at this point however I think it was pretty obvious Olenna didn’t care about being on the winning team, she just wanted to cause as much pain for Cersei as she could before her inevitable death
Cersei: You've been quiet since you came home. You angry with me?
Jamie: Considering that you usurped the crown from our son and he killed himself, YEAH IM FUCKING PISSED!!
You forghet that I nuke the biggest church on the continent with a lot of people insisde and somehow the peasants do not put my head on a pike
"Three kingdoms at best ' which one seriously ? , how did they still have a army
When this aired, I had this thought:
Daenerys has The Reach and Dorne with her Dothraki, Unsullied, a hundred ships of Ironborn against Euron's, and three dragons.
That alone would put Cersei at a huge disadvantage against her own rule over the Westernlands (bankrupt), the Stormlands (no lord or army), and the Crownlands (after the uprising and downfall of the Faith Militant).
Then add the North allied with the Vale and the Free Folk.
Cersei should have been finished. But then season 7 and 8 taught me one thing; David and Dan, the show runners really can't showcase the complex intricacies of warring factions without George. Let alone the themes involving Ice and Fire.
"I'm the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms"
Any woman who must say I am the Queen is no true Queen.
At best, she's queen of two kingdoms. The Crownlands are nominally under her control as the capital and the Westerlands are sworn to House Lannister. The Stormlands are in turmoil with no one to rule them since House Baratheon is legally extinct and Dorne, the Reach, the Riverlands, the Vale and the North are all in open rebellion against her due to very legitimate grievances against either her personally or House Lannister in general.
In the end Cersei and the Night King will divvy up Westeros and nobody else will live happily ever after
wrong
Jaime concluding their situation is fubar. But Cersei knows she has plot armor for a little while longer cuz the Night King does not speak and is not enough as a lone villain.
Grahf j
Fubar
“Enemies everywhere. We’re surrounded by traitors.” I don’t know if it’s already been said; Cersei is as wicked, if not, more wicked than the Mad King.
Say what you want about the last two seasons, but you can’t say they didn’t have some great scenes
With hindsight, Cersei had the last solid plotline of the show
Jamie understood that they were all alone and surrounded by enemies they made while they lost the few small allies they had. Cersei refuses to accept defeat and thinks money magically makes her army stronger or she can just buy more useful allies.
At beast she can take out some of her enemies which she did, but there was no winning for her.
Victoria
The Goddess of Victory
0:52
cersei sounds more like his father here than ever
Lol no. Tywin would never sound so dumb, he is the mastermind behind many plots that would even tremble Old Valyria. Cersei doesnt even have a tenth of Tywin intelligence.
1:47
They sure as shit knew where shed make landfall. Why not set up an ambush? Dragons yea, but plan for that
Tywin said it himself that Cersei aint as smart as she thinks she is
She really said she's the queen of the seven kingdoms while they're at war with her??!! Is she BLIND????
Saint Lucy
Cersei would have been killed for blowing up the Sept. This writing is so ridiculous.
For sure, the entire country would be against her after that stunt. She wouldn't even last a day on the throne, someone would stab her and open the gates for Daenerys
@@Zeppelin616 yeah honestly. All the great houses are or should be against her. The powerful religious organisation that loved the Sept would be very against her. As well as the other sparrow supporters. The common folk would be (and already were seasons ago), many Lannister soldiers should be since she killed kevan Lannister. Many rich and poor folks were killed in that explosion too. She has Danys armies and dragons coming for her. As well as Dorne, Highgarden, the vale, the starks of winterfell, and the tullys all against her. Freys are dead. Arya the shapeshifting assassing was able to deal with them alone. Idk why she never easily killed cersei that way. The Tarlys were targaryen loyalists and should have sided with Dany. And like this episode said. There was no reason why any house would follow Cersei Lannister to war when winter just started and they're the losing side, and very unlikeable and not trustworthy. Makes no bloody sense. Euron probably would have raided kings landing rather than marry cersie. Show euron was cringe and just a plot device for Cersie.
Did everyone know it was her though?
@@stephenking5852 I don't think it was ever addressed in the show lol. But it should've been obvious since only she and Tommen were absent from the trial.
@@karikim6905 Perhaps people were frightened. A woman who blew up the sacred place of theirs without hesitation was really a frightening monster. They were too afraid to stand to her.
3:55 Jaime or Jon Snow?
Cersei in the books is basically the future of Dany. Shes corrupt to the core, not nearly as smart as she thinks she is and a worse leader, making every decision a poor one. Everyone who read the books knows this and every character has spoken out about it. But they needed a final boss, so it had to be the incompetent
1:47 Tywin would be so proud of Cersei don't you think? She somehow made the war Joffrey started worse.
Surrounded by enemies and even made new ones such as with Dorne and Highgarden. She truly doesn't know what she's doing.
Definitely not the 'Last of us', that is a better written series...
God cersei was truly useless. Tywin was right not to trust her.
And funny enough, Had Tywin listened, he may still be alive. Cersei didn't trust House Tyrell, understandably so. And she was right. A stronger eye on them saves Joffrey and, in turn, saves him.
Tywin knew Tyrion didn't kill Joffrey and he still went along with the bs. Tywin is a beast, but in this situation, he was the dummy.
@@janellejulianajoy The Tyrell's weren't the ones who brought a shoeless zealot into power, and they only turned their back on the kingdom after she blew up more than half of them in the church.
Why is the comments full with idiots who talk nonsens about cersei ? Why these people search cersei scenes if they dont like her😅 is so lame.cersei is so hard not to like.she is the most beautiful,powerful,smartest women on the show.she didnt need dragons,she is so badass and cool just be being her.❤
Cope
She's dumber than my Sunday shit
She's not dumb, she's impulsive and extremely thin skinned. Regardless, no female antagonist lives up to her. It's why she's my favorite. She's a bitch and she owned it.
this might just be Cersei's cringiest scene yet
CERCEI SHOULD WIN! R.I.P her beautiful soul!