Full F-5C Review - Is It Worth It? + Gameplay + Helpful Tips [War Thunder]
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- Опубліковано 22 вер 2024
- In this video, I go over everything that you will ever need to know about the American F-5C premium fighter jet, including its stats, roles, strengths and weaknesses, and if it is worth purchasing. Please let me know what you think about this plane and/or video in the comments below. Thank you!
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"the f-5C is very small, making it a very tough target to hit" : Proceeds to ram a friendly F-5C
I’m happy I preordered. The plane is good and while you only get AIM-9E’s, they are a good way to make your opponent move into a favorable position. Plus the MiG-28 skin is nice.
@F4E Phantom II I dont think so. I pre ordered it
@F-4E Phantom II no you aren’t preorder only
@F-4E Phantom II ur not me
@random take another look
Yeah yeah wish I would’ve preordered too 😔😒
This plane is an excellent support fighter, and if you fly with a squad its a great distraction too. Most planes like the mig will get confident and try to turn fight you, but if you have an ounce of skill you will win every time.
With a mig-21? Hah the mig-21 bis could fly circles around the f5
@@youngflashy7181 they accelerate fast but can’t conserve energy at all. Once you build speed in the f-5c it’s almost impossible for someone to chase you down or outturn you
@@youngflashy7181nope migs loose like all of their speed on turns while the F5C conserves a lot of it
@@chris_elkins2093 ehh not the mig 23-29 USSR forever
I've heard a lot of people say it's op, but after flying it, it's biggest weakness is it's low speed compared to the competition. No one seems to realize this tho, so I regularly turn fight MiGs and win head ons with single Vulcan planes (104, Phantoms). It has a large advantage in head ons due to it's small size and the twin cannons. Hopefully we don't get a mega nerf due to bad players complaining loudly.
I tanked 2 missiles in this thing idk how like first crippled me and took out my right engine and the second took off my right wing but i could still fly i only died when they unloaded a full clip in me, i was not expecting such a light fighter to be a tank like this
I had a clip that I left out that shows me taking a missile and a bunch of rounds and still not being forced out of the plane. Albeit, I was out of control and on fire, but there are many examples where I receive nasty damage and keep truckin'. I also rarely catch fire.
Only version of the F5 with armor. Not much, but 6mm is better than 0.
Tips on this plane, (at least the F5E since I only have that, but still mostly stock and applies somewhat here too anyway):
- take armoured target belts. These rounds seem to do a lot more damage. A hit nearly always crits, or starts a fire.
- it's got 2 guns with 560 ammo total, this is insane amounts. Don't tape the trigger down but a little longer burst is fine.
- energy retention is insane, won't outrun migs but 1 turn and you lost barely any energy and they lost a lot.
- while the low speed acceleration is much better on the f5e. Like by a lot. The high speed one is not a huge difference. It will matter though.
- this thing will point where you want it too. You can make some crazy shots you wouldn't think you could get.
- low speed handling is quite good. At least better then most others. You can probably win stallfights (I usually have to even turn the afterburner off sometimes on the e to prevent and overshoot)
And to add, general tip: if you crit and pass an enemy. Do not turn around for them. It is absolutely not worth going after a damaged enemy. At top tier damage affects the performance so segnificantly it is way better to ignore them and go for another target. Even if it ends up not giving you the kill for the first target.
This applies to missiles too, if there is 2 targets at equal distance from you. If you fire your missile at 1 of them and there is a reasonable chance it hits. Assume it will hit. A plane that might be hit by a missile is less valuable then a plane that will definitely not be
@@xanderwusky3001 thanks i might consider buying it
Great video. You left out the 6mm armor plating under the cockpit and engine. Not game breaking, but sometimes means the difference between returning to the airfield or being sent back to the hangar by flak/missile bursts and not shared by the other F5s.
It is quite enjoyable to fly and very good at ground striking and it's maneuverability is superb . Id recommend the 2 bullpup and 3 750 pound bombs as well as missiles it is my favorite but taking just bullpups is solid
I like a million 250 lbs, I usually one shot bases. But imma switch out a few 250's for something larger.
Never had a jet before this… turns out jets is my forte and I’m using this puppy to grind out the tree. It’s a far cry from what I’m used too as prop pilot but it kicks ass. I feel the need… the need… for speed! Never have a game where I don’t get at least one kill and I rarely die. The weird thing is I can feel at this BR the lack of dogfighting skill, like very few people actually know how to at all! Fly straight out of the missile and turn into my guns thanks buddy! Love it!
I’m thinking of buying this jet, I don’t have any experience in jets kinda like what you said. I’m hating props. I’m tier 4 props now but I want to buy this, I just hear so many people saying lower level people shouldn’t. I think I’m only level 13 or 14. Think I should? I’m highly considering it so i can grind out the American tech tree without having to use the horrible props.
The F-5C is pretty good, average if not better. For anyone who's new to air combat and picking this up however, take some time to practice in a custom battle. It's a big help to know what your plane is gonna do
The F-5C pack is 30% off right now (and for 24hr from posting this) for WT's 9th birthday, and the "2021 Birthday bundle - USA" which includes the F-5C pack and the XM-1 General Motors Pack is 50% off. I used to play years ago and picked the game up again recently. I only have a couple very low BR prem. planes and haven't gotten far into tanks, but as I've just started edging into jets on the tech tree I was hoping to find a way to speed up that stretch of rank V, VI, and VII planes in addition to filling the gaps in the tech tree. A lot of new planes have been added apparently, but I guess that's to be expected after a 5ish years of not playing. I think you've convinced me to go ahead and hop on the F-5C. The maneuverability particularly interests me as the (somewhat newly unlocked to me) F8F Bearcat tends to tickle my fancy with its agility. Probably wouldn't hurt for me to have a nice meaty tank (XM-1) to start grinding that tree too. I'm rambling but I guess I felt like sharing. Thanks for the vid and for helping me decide!
Ohhh baby less goo the full review is here! Another great one from Tankenstein.
Ayo can I get some more bruh????
@@ssouperior yeah of course, 6 quid only
Who do you think you are?
@@bruhdealer5208 no way....
@@bruhdealer3505 I sell mine for 5 quid you scamming
You could kill the entire team with the amount of rounds you have. In case you have pretty good aiming, it would take you 20 rounds to finish someone straight in about 600-800M
This video is great, honestly i watched it and i am very glad i picked up the f5c. This video was great and informative. Couldn't ask for more. Keep it up!
In regards to the cannons, while you only get 560 rounds of ammo, most planes with larger rounds like 30mm never seem to go over 300 rounds. I have only really checked the other premium jets tho, so there may be some of that caliber with comparable ammo to the F-5C. It seems the trade off for more damage is less fire time to work with.
Edit: The A-10 is an exclusion, as it is literally built to be a flying gun lol.
Great Video just a quick correction at 9:30. Where using the 250 x 18 pound bombs you can completely destroy an enemies base in one go.
That’s a lot of bombs 👀
You’d think it would’ve been easier to go with 18 250lb bombs instead of 250 18lb bombs.
@@dubyas1989 I think you would do more emotional damage to soldiers on the ground with 250 x 18lb bombs than actual damage to the base lol
"This is by far the best premium to buy currently in game"
AV-8A Harrier- Hold my beer
It had been, but I think as an overall plane, the F-5C takes the cake.
I have both and I have to say it depends on playstyle and opinion. Im indifferent to either one.
Av8a. Meh. Can U really dogfight a mirage in av8? .f5c is soo much Skill based. It's an awesome plane to have fun
@@yajamanvamsikrishna509 why the fck would you do dogfight ANYTHING in AV8A? It's not a dogfighter.
Also, Mirage is like 10.7 iirc while AV8A is 9.3 smh
@@myth5671 it's more like. Dogfighting is the real game in the game . If you don't dogfight and just send missiles . Why play? Just grind? Play cookie simulator then
Glad you mentioned arcade, i spent almost 1k hours there , reach top tier on URSS until i had enough practice to play realistic only.
I definitely recommend this plane it is incredible.
Seconded my most played Jet because it's just so nice having premium, helps that it's the 2nd best dog fighter for its tier only beaten by the Mirage specifically the C because C stands for Chad. Noting both fighter.
Honestly you deserve more subscribers Love watching your videos
I like it its really fun to use and if you know what your doing you out do everything else lol.
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Great video as always. I really enjoy the plane. I did manage to rip a wingtip diving after a Mig21 tho.
2:30 *Harriers have Always Been a Thorn in F-5C/Es wings*
Watched your draken and f5c review. Liked and subbed man great work and thank you for explaining helping me decide whether to purchase :)
I pre-ordered this as a birthday present to myself. I only have a couple of missions in it but so far I like it. I agree with the points in the video. Good points in the ability to use flaps at high speed, I will have to try that.
Hey, i was looking to buy it myself and was wondering if it is a good grinder aircraft, i personally main ground and want to farm for aviation tree.
@@badstion7416 if you are not used to jets, F5C isnt a good choice for now. It's really good in hands of Experienced pilots but not for new pilots, it's not very forgiving. AV8A is much friendlier, and is also really good for grinding.
@@myth5671 im somewhat experienced with jets seeing i am working towards the mig21mf in the german tree. But im wondering because the harrier has a lower br and better missiles is it worth the 20% rp decrease?
because i heard rumour that when rank 8 aviation eventually comes out the f5c will get better missiles (g's or d's)
@@badstion7416It was a lie
Really clear
Thx for the info and great job
I was wondering if I should thank you for the video
FANTASTIC review!!!
great video man
So you said the A2D-1 was a good grinder at the end of the video. Ever since the Sk.60 was added, I'm going to have to disagree with that. Since you go against it every time and every time they always go after the A2Ds and 9 times out of 10 there's nothing you can really do. Other than that, good video and thanks for the tips.
true..t.rue...true....sk60 destroyed the value there
Yeah and it got uptiered to 9.0
I'm torn. On one hand I promised myself I would never spend real money on War Thunder, but after test flying the F-5C for free... I really want this plane. And that was before I found out about the MiG 28 skin.
Don't unless you already have top tier experience
I personally don’t have the f5c but knowing how it plays you need top teir jet experience, it’s a non forgiving hard jet to fly even just messing around in test flights, av8a is a super grinder but not as fun I’ve heard from a lot of friends that have both but also a lot easier to use, if you play everyday though even with no premiums you will eventually get to top tier
@@littlecreeper8543 You will eventually get top tier but it will take months upon months to actually get to the phantom or F5e premium shortens it down to possibly 2-3 months if you take breaks in between
When I’m on PlayStation, it says “coming soon”
Great video!
keep up the good work
It sucks atm....its US vs US cuz there are so many....I've played about 10 games in it and all been 11.0 matches 😬😬
Air rb is trash man. For ground rb it's probably pretty fun.
And can’t spawn in your jet in
@@ty8012 Air RB is fine and in Ground RB it'll be super hard. to use at 10.3 because of how insanely good the SPAAGs are.
Like the Top Gun red bandit skins. I need that! F5 is my favorite plane to fly for dog fights. This plane is pretty amazing as long as u save ur afterburn. U run out of that and u in trouble.
Thank for the videos
I find them helpful and instructional
I bought t on sale and it is fun
Also seems like either manage to bomb a base and score well or nada 1-3
F-5 vietman CAS fighter
used in war thunder against modern fighters
LoL
Still great today. Custom load outs make ground pounding better now!
" Limited amount of rounds "
Laughs in MiG player
sadly yes, migs are cursed with over performing flight models with literally no armament for jet tier. "Russian Bias".
Lmao mig pilots already used to this. Mig pilot say "issue?"
@@sebastianlorant6502 mig pilots switch to sabres, f8u and f5s, because they're the only gunfighters with which using the guns actually grants you 4 or more kills without needing to reload or use suspended armament
And for my next trick, I'll make all this Gsh-23 ammunition disappear in the blink of an eye!
Aight I'm buying it
Could you do a review on the German G.91 R/4?
If I get my hands on it, sure
Really fun to play just hope theirs no aa also look at the killfeed at 7:10
Lol
7:06 oof xD
Am mostly likely gonna buy it besides I wanna have the whole American tree even the premium tree
Same
Coming from arcade air without any jets and right now i'm doing better with the Su7 BMK than F-5C in RBs :/
My highest rp with Su was 44k (+30 % rp bonus)! :)
I've already ground almost 200k rp and 1.5 mil sl with it lol, haven't even played yet today
Same. It's an easy way to grind out the top of the tech tree
@@Tankenstein having ground to the phantoms, I wish I'd had it weeks ago, but atleast I have it going forward for rank 7 lol
Got my sub
Hello, what belts would you recommend taking on this plane, very good video btw
Air targets is the best for hunting planes
December 2022, Be careful buying this, you can easily die in 1v1s so learn to pick out enemies and only fire off your missiles when necessary, if you are wanting to get the f-14 though or grind usa tech tree learn the plane because using this plane is the only option.
Not to mention how u get 2,000 GE and 15 days premium acc on top of the premium plane boost
Pros: good acceleration, high ammo count for cannons, multi role,
Cons, low top speed, horrible turning times as WW2 and Korean War era jets can out turn you with ease
That goes for all supersonics though
@@grikkajunior the j35 says otherwise...
@@youngflashy7181 but then it loses all its speed and has bad loadouts and not enough ammp
How do I get the MiG-28 camo
This thing can take multiple missle hits as well. Very survivable
I think someone in my Discord mentioned this very thing
@@Tankenstein once again that would be me.
-Jagerwahl
Can you zoom in when firing to bullpups? It seems quite useless to have guided ATGMS when you can't see the tanks you are trying to shoot at outside of like 1 km.
I typed it beofre I will again. It is the mazda miata of the sky.
I like this comparison
Great to grind. Unless you get uptiered. In which case, have fun with your 2 minute matches getting beamed from across the map by long range missiles.
love the mig-28 skin
Great plane
Def worth it. Got 500k sl in 7 games
What are your setting if you use controller?
Awesome
I took it for a test fly and if I’m honest as an air rb main, I have concerns. The lack lustre acceleration and climb rate combined with the low top speed at sea level and meh missiles while pretty much exclusively seeing top tier… for so much money… meh. Your handling only goes so far and as people are spamming the mig-21bis, I’ve just been watching people get dunked on in it. Once it’s slow then it’s such an easy target. The acceleration means you can’t get your speed back once you’re slow as well. I don’t care about the lack of radar. The lack of rwr is a concern. 10g missiles vs 11.0 and only having 2 of them at that is a huge disadvantage too.
The only thing that makes me even consider buying it is that I don’t have top tier US vehicles. I have top tier UK, France, Sweden, and Germany. With the FGR.2 I have shot these things down within a minute of the match starting with sparrows. It just doesn’t seem as good from an air rb perspective as you’re making it out to be.
Would absolutely get it for ground but I haven’t got top tier US ground either lol
Once this thing gets moving, it gets going quick. My strategy is to hit 800 km/h in a shallow climb, and then increase the angle substantially. By the time I encounter enemy fighters, I'm at 5k-7k meters, depending on my angle/map, and going near mach 1. It's really quite good once you get moving. The F-5E is even substantially better than that.
@@Tankenstein I do this in the F-104A. Just climb really high and then dunk on people who are tunnel visioned on those Harriers or F-4s. I don’t like how slow the F-5C is but if I was to play it as I would the F-104A it should be a very good fighter and just boom on some planes and then dogfight. But then again, you might not want to dogfight because you will be so slow and get baited. It is a good plane in the right hands imo. Don’t just get the plane and play it like a MiG. There is a very special way to play the F-5C.
Hey great video. I’ve just started playing war thunder. I guess you can call me a noob. Anyway, I’ll probably buy the F-5 having seen your review on it. My question is: How do you fly the aircraft without the horizon moving if you know what I mean? It looks so cool, only the aircraft is moving, not the horizon. Can I change that in the settings?
Do not buy it if you just started. You will get clapped like there is no tomorrow. Play some games and get level 20. Then think again.
The bottom is normally c I think.
I really want the f5c and I love test flighting it, but people tell me it’s bad but I’m still unsure I should get it or not
With the f14 existing, it gets fucked by the Phoenix missiles
@@groerkurtfurst9 I have the f5c now, somebody kind gifted me it without me asking and I love the f5c
@@ThunderPlayer_WT same thing happened to me yesterday! We should play together soon, tomorrow perhaps?
@@groerkurtfurst9 I’d love to! I grinded with the f5c to br 4 in an hour but at the end of my grind yesterday, in my last few rounds I kept getting spawn sniped by tomcats lol
@@groerkurtfurst9 I damn hate getting sniped by those
Hey how do i turn on this skin that you are using?
AV8 marine harrier is still the better pick due to it being 9.3 and has 30mm adens and AIM9 G which has been buffed from 16 to 18g turn
Yeah. But the f4c is more fun. Especially dogfighting a mig . It's soo much fun
Is IT a better Grinder than the Av8a?
i am planning to buy f5c us and 25k ru with xmas 50% sales, any objections?
I have this plane and it really is nice but something about the AAM are not the best and have issues locking on
Right now it's kind of a plague to play the F5-C, gets uptiered on a regular basis.. Sometimes it's fun to play but it's rare imo..
+Amazing maneuverability.
+decent guns and ammo count
-Trash missiles.
Yeah, it's worth considering.
The 9Es are not trash. They're definitely not meta, but not trash either. They're great for slowing people down or getting them in a climb.
@@zackbobby5550 This is from experience but all you have to do is do a small turn in the F5e and pop a few flares and woosh it's gone though the missile is good for slowing down F4 and Mig21
@@pirateboss1128 Well yeah no shit the 9E is not a top tier missile. It's not trash either though. But any heat seaker currently in the game would be thrown off by the maneuver you just described.
@@zackbobby5550 I would kinda disagree thoughfrom a side on aspect obviously it will miss but from the rear if its an AIM9J it may pose a risk of death as it still kinda has resistance to flares not as much as before though
@@pirateboss1128 No if you cut your burner, deploy flares, and jink properly it will not hit you in an F-5E.
I don't know if you will see this, but do you still f-5c whould be the best premium pack to buy?
Yes it is. If u have premium, it has the highest SL multiplier in air rn shared by only a few planes. Also if you're xbox, dont know about ps4, its 30 dollars as opposed to the 60 it used to be. This thing prints me SL in air rb, so I would suggest getting it. Also I'm over half way through the american air tree and still coming out positive after buying the planes. Not crewing though.
Can we Play together with the F-5C?
How can you get that black skin ?
i’m wanting to get it but i’m not too sure, i’m sure this video will make me make up my mind
if you are new u are much better off with purchasing the AV8A, if you are experienced in jets and can aim well then you can go for the F5C
@@myth5671 oh i’m very experienced, i’m all jets now and have been thinking about this for a while, this video has helped me choose tho
It’s a very fun plane, if you’re getting a premium you should get this.
@@sabre1010 then go for it, it's a really good plane
@@Koyomix86 okk thanks
this thing has literally no weaknesses when going against an a-5c. out turns it, faster than it, better climb rate and better energy retention. only thing is its slightly less quick on acceleration.
not a lot of people play china tbh
@@cointossgaming1 it's an OP premium aircraft when down tiered
cost of f5c golden eagles?
F-15A is the next plane
Why do you keep talking about the A7?.. There is no Premium A7 to compare with the F5C. There are event A7, but no Premium.
In this I blindly fired a missile at a mig23 and killed him. I’m sorry that one random mig
Might've been me lol. In my mig-23, I was killed by an F5C
@@aydenwells3751 what map were you on. I was on malta
Can you do the su7 next?
I may be able to. It depends on a few factors
18*250 lbs can take a base in Air RB
I love how the F5 was called a MiG 28 in top gun...
I think MiG 28 was a fake designation
you’d be correct, irl migs only use odd numbers
I want a jet I only has tier 2 American planes
Im not a wallet warrior. Saving money for a year and planing to buy prem air for usa. Should i buy it or is AV-8A better?
Depend of if you want a good and fun and very good grinder plane buy It if you want and super grinder buy the av8
How do I make it black
Not gonna lie it being half off made it really worth 4.0s to 10.0
Is it still worth it in 11.0?
I will say it turns well like as good as a small mig
Yeah and in a sustained rate fight your MER will actually be better than a MiG-21's. They will pull more AoA, but after that you'll be beating them. Also their guns are trash so as long as you don't give them a shot with the R-60 you'll be fine lol.
Anyone here because of the sale?
I'm here because Tankenstein is a handsome fella, or so I hear.
@@Tankenstein He’s HOT!!!!
Would you guys go for av-8a or f5c for grinding without going mad?
I would chose f5c
7:11 lol
i have it and played it quite alot. its pretty nice only one problem. its turns so quick that the pilot cant handle g forces which results in constant black screen. i cant really dogfight in it cause pilot will just me unconscious the whole time
It is really capable. One of the major examples of a plane outflying the capabilities of the pilot.
Very late but in case you havnt figured it out if you use keyboard what you can do is use mouse to aim, keyboard for maneuvers so for example hold s to go up and if you start blacking out hold w for about 1/4 of a second to add a little bit of negative g’s and as you continue your turn. You will start. Not blacking out and then eventually start again, biggest part is realizing that it’s delayed for visual meaning you can just tap opposite direction and it will work just might not look like it until. A second later, also sorry for grammar typing on phone lol
@@littlecreeper8543 iknow my man. ive been using that tactic ever since playing WT. The f5C with unexperienced crew just still blacks out insanely quick even when using that tactic. My g tolerence and stamina is now max tho so it isnt really an isue anymore, really like the f5C i wreck alot of people in it
I would like to see the f5e the F5C sucks. I have it
is this still any good? is it the best to grind with in america premium ?
Yes, it is just as good as it was when it was first released. While I would recommend starting with a lower BR premium, like something between 3.0 and 7.0 BR, if you have to grind the entire American tech tree, the F-5C is still an amazing plane in War Thunder.
I can only get 1 centimetre worth of grinding and it takes too long for me to grind any tech trees and it gets annoying.
You bought the f5c?
When will they be avalibal for consol?
They already are
One year later still a good plane.
Hi I am thinking about whether and which premium jet I want to get my current best aircraft is the 3.7 p51 mustang but I have had relatively long experience in warthunder would you recommend it to me
@@Sean00769 I wouldnt recommend any jet to you especially one at 10.3, you will join the millions of other F-5C players that have no experience in top tier jets
the av-8a seems a lot better since its 9.3 gets way better missiles and a airspawn and ccip
yea but it’s an absolute bus in the air it will not move