Been riding for over 40 years and never had a scooter, never even sat on one but last year just fancied giving it a try. Looked at the adv but they were all just preorder, found a 2 year old BMW C400GT with 400 miles on it so got that instead. Still have all my other bikes but love this one for getting around great seat for comfort and a pillion. Sits two up at 70+ think top end does about 90+mph not bad for a 350 single and gets about 80mpg. Heated seat/grips, braided brake hoses with twin discs and radial mounted callipers etc. Not bad handling either 15” front 14” back but they are the width of bike tyres at 120/150 that really helps. Just wish I’d tried one earlier👍
I've been driving motorcycles of all kind for 20 years. It didn't excite me anymore and only saw the negatives of motorcycles. But recently I rode a Forza 350 and I really was having fun again test driving it. Lightweight, good wind protection, low maintenance (I hate chains) and maintenance-costs. No heat from the engine in summer (I hated that too), no vibrations and so easy to drive. I loved it. A scooter, and probably the Forza 350 will be the reason that I start driving a 2 wheeler again. 😎
Just traded in my CB500f for SH125i and it's the best decision I've ever done. The nightmare of carrying your helmet and other stuff is finally over, I can stroll around, go to work like I'm in a car leaving all my gear in the scooter , awesome stuff 😊
@@Borderman47 ha thats cool, I think if I tried one I may want to buy one is my concern....I have a similar style SINNIS bike review coming soon ....I enjoyed that too
I think new scooters are horrendous prices. However there are some 2nd hand bargains if u watch and wait. I paid £2k for 2012 with 2000 miles on ( been on a camper). It looks and rides as new. It will cruise at 70 or nimble around town same size as sh125. Biggest bonus is belt drive if u ask me. Bloody chain maintenance. On my honda 125s I had to soak my chain in diesel every few months as rusted and seized even with chain guard. It was used 365 days. I think they have come on a mile nowadays.
I like that ADV350, ER, and what you said about older riders certainly rings true. I'm getting to the stage now where I seize up easily and something like this Honda with no gears and plenty of room to stretch the legs certainly hits a soft spot.
Nice and easy to pull out the garage is a major bonus as well Jim. That was something that always stuck out with me when I had the ADV....It was never a bind to pull out and go to the Chinese or shop.
I kinda fall into the second category, they're easy to ride. I'm 60 and last year I decided I wanted a motorbike. After failing my CBT twice on a manual, I passed on a 50cc scooter. I then decided to do my Mod 1 & 2 on larger automatics, probably a Honda DCT. I really cannot be bothered at my age to learn the clutch and gears. My instructor said there are more people nowadays going down the automatic route. I aim to do my Mod 1 & 2 this year. My dream is to own a Honda CMX1100 DCT.
First time on a motorcycle at 58 and passed the skills test here in the States although I almost put a foot down doing a figure-eight in the box. My wife actually scored better than I did. Anyway, finally got around to buying a bike at 60 and have been daily commuting ever since. I love riding, but I'm done with manual shifting. Killer on the grip too in stop-and-go traffic. Owning a Honda DCT is on my bucket list.
Have just got an ADV350. Brilliant piece of kit. The other advantage of a scooter is keeping it clean. My BMW 1200 GS would throw road muck and salt all over the front of the engine and exhaust. Had to wash it after every ride in the winter. In contrast, the ADV has a superbly designed and deep front mudguard which keeps the front end of the bike free from crud.
i have more than 3 reasons. extremely practical, no transmission maintnance appart from belt change every 18000km (easy to do at home), very low centre of gravity making city commuting between cars easy, both brakes on the handlebar, good weather protection, instant acceleration and reprises without having to select the right gear, good space under the seat for helmet and stuff (no mine but still a lot of space under seat) and so on...disadvantages? Not so good looking as a pure naked bike, not as powerful and most not as engaging or visceral when riding.
I've been riding bikes since I was 15 I'm now 76. I never had a car always small scooters for the week & a motorbike for weekends or day trips in the Alps. I moved up to the Honda ADV 350 mainly because it has a motorbike suspension. After one year of ownership, I found I was riding the Honda more than my Tracer900GT. It has all the advantages you mentioned plus It's as quick as the tracer doing legal speeds. The Tracer is a bike you want to ride fast so it's very easy to lose your points on the other hand the ADV is so much fun to ride within the legal limits most of the time.
Hi Exeter rider I've got a honda x11 and a burgman 400 I ride the scooter more than the x11 people need to not be so closed minded still its their loss .Keep up the good work 😊
your comment is spot on johnj, my pride and joy is a thruxton 900 and her stable mate is gts 300, poles apart, but love them both gts is the go to machine these days just so easy, and that's from a dyed in the wool Biker of 47 years, ride safe
Good one ER actually that 350 would great as a winter hack just for those short trips out and if the weather turns to crap like it normally does then it doesn't matter maybe even more fun certainly less worry I reckon .Would be good to have one in the back of the garage for sure .Nice one 😉👌👍
Rode bikes continually for over 50 years before trying a scooter, now have two scooters in the stable (nmax and xmax) hardly ever ride my bikes now. Scooters are relaxing to ride plus my knackered knees do not help. Toured Spain on my xmax last year, fantastic piece of kit with plenty of storage.
I'd add that Scooters are just fun. I've owned four scooters and my current one is a Kymco Agility 300 with 16 inch front wheel. Yes, I also ride proper motorcycles currently a Triumph Tiger 1050. Kymco is the goto transport for around town. Easy to park and very frugal plus at my age (68) I like the fact you can move your feet around on the floorboards which is difficult on most motorcycles except the heavy cruisers. Do yourself a favour and bring joy to your life by owning a quick 300 scooter; any Brand. Cheers
Having done the London Taxi knowledge twice, once on a cg125 bike and later on a piaggio twist and go, it's got tob a scooter every time! Can't beat them in town!
I bought a 400 Burgman last year, great transport and more fun to ride than it should be, the storage and weather protection were a revelation. It was written off 6 weeks after getting it, I found out the hard way that being a little lower than on a traditional bike, other traffic just don't see you. The elderly gentleman that knocked me off didn't see me until I was on the floor, I was off bikes 2 months with a fractured ankle and pulled shoulder, I didn't replace the Scooter with another because I now feel more visible higher up on a traditional bike.
Thats a good point DC, thats the issue with Maxis isnt it, although the ADV is very upright....I find cruisers the worst for that, certinly the 500 Rebel for example is very low albeit decent led front light.
i'm on my second scooter now, first was a piaggio medley 125 which i had for 6yrs and did over 50k miles (which started to struggle at that mileage) i now have a honda forza 125 (2023) and i'm loving it hopefully get the same usage maybe more as it got more power to the engine
We definitely need a bigger scooter presence in the US. Most dealers don't want to be bothered or just carry the low cc ones. I can understand the desire for a large cc motorcycle for long distance highway travel, but I think the majority of daily urban motorcycle commuters like me could embrace the practicality of a scooter over a motorcycle if there were more choices. My FZ6 is fun to ride, but in reality, I'm just making short bursts between traffic lights on secondary roads during my 6-mile one-way commute. The highway is usually too congested to bother with and I rarely get over 45 mph to enjoy the speed if I do take it. I'm ready to get one, but I want something larger than a PCX 150.
I'm a bit late but thought I'd mention that I have done several return trips in Thailand from Chiang Mai to Maha Sarakham. There's a great mix of flat and winding hills, on a 155cc NMax. 9.5 hrs down and 10-11 back (haven't figured that out yet). It is the limit of riding reasonably comfortable, speeds often in 100-110kph range but avge at 75. Only a weekender backpack under the seat and lone rider. 2 up would make the bike work too hard and would surely take 2 days. The 350 will take 2-up on a comfortable tour through hill and Dale. JMO
Very good reasons, I know sometimes us bikers give scooters a bad name but they do serve their purpose really well, and there's a reason why all the delivery companies use them, the most practical use of 2 wheels. Great video mate, hope you're well.
Im a big guy and love the suspension and ergos of the ADV 350 here in Thailand. The handlebar is very UN-scooter like being wide like the dirt bikes we all grew up with. Wish it was sold in the USA.
I couldn't agree more. They are an excellent way into motorcycling. You can learn balance, handling and traffic awareness on something so easy to ride. Being economical and having good storage, I will keep a 125 scooter as well as a bike. You now seem able to get your leg over on a regular basis and I hope that continues for you for many years 😂😂😂😘
Very much so Lilly, I have got my leg over far more than I did in my earlier years . Im alot softer than what i was though, I mean when my beautiful soft buttocks are on the seat. They say as life goes on things get harder. I'm not finding that the case.😂 O yes and I agree with everything you said there : )
Funny how in places like Italy, France, Spain etc so many people ride scooters and they’re cool. But here there is a stigma attached, so if anyone is worried about street cred, they won’t have one. By the time you need one for physical reasons, you don’t care anyway 🙂
Yeap exactly, It is quite snooty over here for scoots. the only thing that bothers me about them is the feet position and it looks like side saddling and a little nancyish...apart from that I like em.
I'm open to trying but they turn me off on so many levels , let alone paying for the extra wheel set up etc. Lifes expensive enough....you never know unless you try I guess!!
A friend has an ADV350 and raves about it. I have a small scooter but don't like the riding position, so I'd rather have a motorcycle. Also, I like changing gear. They are no cheaper to run than the equivalent sized motorcycle. Storage is the plus point for scooters. And keeping your feet dry. Nothing else.
Hallo i test drove one today in Greece it is extremely good scooter this except one thing. Here in Greece especially in Athens we have very bad roads and the rear suspension was hitting very hard. The dealer said that it could be fixed if you try an ohlins suspension this may reduce the problem. Do you know any solution to this problem? Thanx your videos are awesome!!
I’ve noticed that your handguards are mounted inverted (left on right and op), I had the same issue with mine ADV until I have one of them replaced, you should check it out, now upper side of hand is poorly protected from wind :)
When you're old enough to remember Mod's & Rockers, scooters and motorcycles are at opposing ends of the spectrum. That said, in my teens-twenties I was a member of a local bike gang, one of whom rode a Honda C70. Having 9 brothers and sisters it was all he could afford and each year another sibling vied for street cred.
Depends on budget Danny, and is it a scooter only you want?. The old 650 burgmans were great tourers. I had one, you could get 2 full face helmets under the seat too👍
@exeterrider Have thought about burgman but only seem to find either very early ones or not in good condition, other bike can't get away from is nc750 dct, like both models of nc but which 8s the question if did go down that route. Thanks for replying, Dan
Will you be doing a full review of the ADV? I have the Forza 350 and contemplating whether to swap it for the ADV version with its better front suspension.
Do not expect huge differene. I rode both. ADV have bigger clerance. For trafic filtering or leg protection Forza is better option (I own ADV). But ADV has some great features. This is NOT offroad bike (some guys do not get marketing)! Just ADV style.
I'm really thinking of (eventually) getting a 125-160cc scooter for short 1-2 mile errands. Its a distance where the car is too much if you just want a loaf of bread, and the motorcycle looks silly and too much of a chore (I've tried to fit a Swiss roll on my tank before). I think scooter would be best.
At one time I played with an Aprilia Habana . Despite being a 50 it really was a laugh. I even managed the odd overtake on the 60mph A149. Clean, plenty of storage and half decent weather protection. I expected it to be a pain but thoroughly enjoyed it. The more modern scooters must be great ULEZ busters ( apart from London’s thieves 😢)
Looking at getting a adv350 or the big brother the x adv 750 not to sure what to do is the x adv is 750 worth an extra 5k please comment if you have tried both the bikes
Scoots are great, I'd love the Honda X-ADV 750 if I had the funds and room, TBH, I wouldn't mind an old Vespa or Lambretta either... but that would not be for any of these reasons in this video! 😀
Yes I've always fancied a Quadrephenia style weekend away with like minded folk. How fun would that be! Bit of Northern soul and all that would be awesome!
I have a 300 Forza for commuting and shopping and a BMW R 1200RT for touring - works for me! The Forza is so relaxing and easy to ride, lots of torque and with after market shocks goes round corners really well. One problem with scooters are the plague of pot holes that has appeared with the rise of super heavy EV cars - some of these pot holes are very deep and can bottom out the suspension on a scooter - the front end upgrade is planned for the autumn. Apparently EVs may be banned form multi-storey car parks because they are so heavy - that green stripe on the number plate will mean more and more inconvenience for the owners I fear.
The seat is to Highmore these old legs over it & I can't flat foot it .I wanted a x adv 750 . I'm not sure witch is the case either. I'm getting smaller, or the bikes are getting bigger
Me too, When I was loaned this scooter girls were jumping off buildings and running in the road ,chasing me down the street so it did have an effect for sure.....Or maybe it was that cat I ran over?
I know what you mean there Mick, and I had a bit of that when I owned mine but you know what F*** em😀 your the one smiling through the traffic and getting into parking spaces while they struggle and have to concentrate. Only here once buy want you want to ride, all the good bikers (95%) of people will treat you the same.
I dare to disagree with you regarding. I have had just normal motorcycle but sccootes due to the belt change and all the plastic ar concidered to be quite espensive to maintain.
Belt changes hardly ever need doing on scoots....some ive seen have done over 50k without a change. Belts are a very good way for next to zero maintenance in my eyes.
As you know Exmouth, I’m a huge fan of scooters of all sizes. I just love the practicality of them. The weather protection when you get caught in a shower, the storage capacity, the fact that you can usually find a gap to park them right next to where you are going. That ADV is very tempting but too pricey for me. Something like that would be a lovely “old man bike” when I can no longer manage motorcycles. Cheers Exmouth. I bet it’s great when you head off to the big smoke. I bet it cuts through that Exeter traffic like a hot knife through butter. Love the scoots ! El Outro and Roby 👍
Yes a lot to be said for them and if I didnt have a cat lucency then perhaps that would be the way to go. The only thing I don't like it's the over rev waiting for the cvt to bite.... But with the Hondas, that isn't a issue with the esp drive units. El outro to you both 🐕
@@exeterrider What is a "cat lucency" ? Is that an Exmouth thing ? Ruby says that anything nasty you do to cats is a good thing, she's all in favour of it ! I don't mind the CVT slip myself, all part of the fun. It is a pain in slow manoeuvres but I like the challenge ! Cheers Matey, should be off out on my Meteor in a moment 👍🏻 El Outro y Roby
Damn, sorry ER I have no idea what that had meant to say.... my phone is awful at self correcting my already crap spelling.....cat lunacy it certainly is , been drinking too much muff water me thinks!
@@exeterrider Having oiled and fired up my own personal enigma machine I have deciphered your reply. I believe that 'cat lucency' was actually intended to be 'car licence' ( so pretty close really 😂 ). So you were saying that if you didn't have a car licence, a scooter would be the way to go. Keep those encoded messages coming Exmouth, you never know who might be listening in, possibly some of those devious Exeter types ! Mum's the word ! El Outro out !
I would happily ride a CVT machine with in built storage but I would want it in motorbike-format. This is because I am 6'4'' and do not want the higher foot-boards as I don't want my knees up round my ears (not with this type of riding anyway...ʕ ꈍᴥꈍʔ ) and I want larger wheels given the state of our roads. I fondly remember the Gilera DNA but it was far too small for me
Yes I know what you mean with the higher footboards, I think that is my only gripe with scoots is the leg postion they put you into...its almost like ladys side saddling.
They are rather like an armchair on wheels and I prefer the security of a leg each side of a motorbike but I just couldn't find one low AND light enough for me to learn to ride. Hence the scooter.
@@lilynorthover8378I've always had the habit of riding my road bike in the high end of the gauge so I quit when my son was born. I was so anti-scooter until I traveled Asia, the 'armchair' thing is exactly what hypnotized me and lit me up. Cruising the back roads with all the sounds of nature and the views, all seem so much bigger and better. I'm 70 and itching to get a m/c also, but I'm broken in places so I may get a Himalayan. Just hate to b/c they're so darn trendy.
@@RonniesRambles if you want to be untrendy, why not try a Honda CL 500. Service intervals are thousands of miles and the longest I've heard of for valve checks on a Honda is 24 years🤣 Comfort wise Exeter Rider's Honda a 750 comes as an automatic.
@@adrianleach1670 well said mate. Infact I just rewatched it and I was past the roadworks by the time I went over 50 so I was within then..... Anyway🙄😉😂😂
Been riding for over 40 years and never had a scooter, never even sat on one but last year just fancied giving it a try. Looked at the adv but they were all just preorder, found a 2 year old BMW C400GT with 400 miles on it so got that instead. Still have all my other bikes but love this one for getting around great seat for comfort and a pillion. Sits two up at 70+ think top end does about 90+mph not bad for a 350 single and gets about 80mpg. Heated seat/grips, braided brake hoses with twin discs and radial mounted callipers etc. Not bad handling either 15” front 14” back but they are the width of bike tyres at 120/150 that really helps. Just wish I’d tried one earlier👍
Good post, thats interesting to know...I will "pin" this post to the top!
I've been driving motorcycles of all kind for 20 years. It didn't excite me anymore and only saw the negatives of motorcycles. But recently I rode a Forza 350 and I really was having fun again test driving it. Lightweight, good wind protection, low maintenance (I hate chains) and maintenance-costs. No heat from the engine in summer (I hated that too), no vibrations and so easy to drive. I loved it.
A scooter, and probably the Forza 350 will be the reason that I start driving a 2 wheeler again. 😎
Just traded in my CB500f for SH125i and it's the best decision I've ever done. The nightmare of carrying your helmet and other stuff is finally over, I can stroll around, go to work like I'm in a car leaving all my gear in the scooter , awesome stuff 😊
Good choice! I REALLY want to try a SH125! I think it could be up my street....
@@Borderman47 ha thats cool, I think if I tried one I may want to buy one is my concern....I have a similar style SINNIS bike review coming soon ....I enjoyed that too
I think new scooters are horrendous prices. However there are some 2nd hand bargains if u watch and wait. I paid £2k for 2012 with 2000 miles on ( been on a camper). It looks and rides as new. It will cruise at 70 or nimble around town same size as sh125. Biggest bonus is belt drive if u ask me. Bloody chain maintenance. On my honda 125s I had to soak my chain in diesel every few months as rusted and seized even with chain guard. It was used 365 days. I think they have come on a mile nowadays.
Topcase would have solved that problem also
@@volt8684 Well average bicycle cost 50% of the Honda or Yamaha (300cc). They are not expensive at all.
I like that ADV350, ER, and what you said about older riders certainly rings true. I'm getting to the stage now where I seize up easily and something like this Honda with no gears and plenty of room to stretch the legs certainly hits a soft spot.
Nice and easy to pull out the garage is a major bonus as well Jim. That was something that always stuck out with me when I had the ADV....It was never a bind to pull out and go to the Chinese or shop.
I'm married I never get my leg over 😂😂
I kinda fall into the second category, they're easy to ride. I'm 60 and last year I decided I wanted a motorbike. After failing my CBT twice on a manual, I passed on a 50cc scooter. I then decided to do my Mod 1 & 2 on larger automatics, probably a Honda DCT. I really cannot be bothered at my age to learn the clutch and gears. My instructor said there are more people nowadays going down the automatic route. I aim to do my Mod 1 & 2 this year. My dream is to own a Honda CMX1100 DCT.
Go get that dream CMX mike. Let me know when you have it : )
@@exeterrider I'll be sure to let you know. Cheers!
First time on a motorcycle at 58 and passed the skills test here in the States although I almost put a foot down doing a figure-eight in the box. My wife actually scored better than I did. Anyway, finally got around to buying a bike at 60 and have been daily commuting ever since. I love riding, but I'm done with manual shifting. Killer on the grip too in stop-and-go traffic. Owning a Honda DCT is on my bucket list.
@@PCDoctorUSA DCT really does sound like it's for you Barry💯👍
Have just got an ADV350. Brilliant piece of kit. The other advantage of a scooter is keeping it clean. My BMW 1200 GS would throw road muck and salt all over the front of the engine and exhaust. Had to wash it after every ride in the winter. In contrast, the ADV has a superbly designed and deep front mudguard which keeps the front end of the bike free from crud.
Absolutely, thats a very good point right there! it makes life a lot easier....certainly when they look this good!
i have more than 3 reasons. extremely practical, no transmission maintnance appart from belt change every 18000km (easy to do at home), very low centre of gravity making city commuting between cars easy, both brakes on the handlebar, good weather protection, instant acceleration and reprises without having to select the right gear, good space under the seat for helmet and stuff (no mine but still a lot of space under seat) and so on...disadvantages? Not so good looking as a pure naked bike, not as powerful and most not as engaging or visceral when riding.
Well said👍
Couldn't agree more mate well said.
I've been riding bikes since I was 15 I'm now 76. I never had a car always small scooters for the week & a motorbike for weekends or day trips in the Alps. I moved up to the Honda ADV 350 mainly because it has a motorbike suspension. After one year of ownership, I found I was riding the Honda more than my Tracer900GT. It has all the advantages you mentioned plus It's as quick as the tracer doing legal speeds. The Tracer is a bike you want to ride fast so it's very easy to lose your points on the other hand the ADV is so much fun to ride within the legal limits most of the time.
Great story, love it!.
I was the I had 3 loan bikes at the time, and it read always the adv I went for👍thanks for posting 🍻
Hi Exeter rider I've got a honda x11 and a burgman 400 I ride the scooter more than the x11 people need to not be so closed minded still its their loss .Keep up the good work 😊
Well said. You cant beat a bike/scoot that is just easy to take off the stand and "GO".
your comment is spot on johnj, my pride and joy is a thruxton 900 and her stable mate is gts 300, poles apart, but love them both gts is the go to machine these days
just so easy, and that's from a dyed in the wool Biker of 47 years, ride safe
@@johnjjackcutler2105 I've always wanted to try a GTS300...great run arounds.
Good one ER actually that 350 would great as a winter hack just for those short trips out and if the weather turns to crap like it normally does then it doesn't matter maybe even more fun certainly less worry I reckon .Would be good to have one in the back of the garage for sure .Nice one 😉👌👍
Nice and easy to pull out too which is something that was refreshing while I had, No lumping around which suits me fine!
Rode bikes continually for over 50 years before trying a scooter, now have two scooters in the stable (nmax and xmax) hardly ever ride my bikes now. Scooters are relaxing to ride plus my knackered knees do not help. Toured Spain on my xmax last year, fantastic piece of kit with plenty of storage.
Alot to be said for then . I will get another one day for sure. Thanks for watching.
I'd add that Scooters are just fun. I've owned four scooters and my current one is a Kymco Agility 300 with 16 inch front wheel. Yes, I also ride proper motorcycles currently a Triumph Tiger 1050. Kymco is the goto transport for around town. Easy to park and very frugal plus at my age (68) I like the fact you can move your feet around on the floorboards which is difficult on most motorcycles except the heavy cruisers. Do yourself a favour and bring joy to your life by owning a quick 300 scooter; any Brand. Cheers
I never understood why kymco don't take on the UK more, from my knowledge they seem pretty solid.
Having done the London Taxi knowledge twice, once on a cg125 bike and later on a piaggio twist and go, it's got tob a scooter every time! Can't beat them in town!
Too right Rob!, and no worries of being in the wrong gear or changing up or down in busy traffic gives the rider more mindspace.
3 great reasons there ER. And for sure, a starter into this love affair we have for motorcycles.
I'm sure your the fame when I say I'm not sure what I like more, meeting the community or making the vids. It's all fantasico!
I bought a 400 Burgman last year, great transport and more fun to ride than it should be, the storage and weather protection were a revelation. It was written off 6 weeks after getting it, I found out the hard way that being a little lower than on a traditional bike, other traffic just don't see you. The elderly gentleman that knocked me off didn't see me until I was on the floor, I was off bikes 2 months with a fractured ankle and pulled shoulder, I didn't replace the Scooter with another because I now feel more visible higher up on a traditional bike.
Thats a good point DC, thats the issue with Maxis isnt it, although the ADV is very upright....I find cruisers the worst for that, certinly the 500 Rebel for example is very low albeit decent led front light.
you should try a sh350i or a beverly 350. 16inche wheels and almost as tall as an adventure bike.
@@farmoboy83 Id be up for that!!
Like my sh300 very upright
i'm on my second scooter now, first was a piaggio medley 125 which i had for 6yrs and did over 50k miles (which started to struggle at that mileage) i now have a honda forza 125 (2023) and i'm loving it hopefully get the same usage maybe more as it got more power to the engine
The Forza is on my list to try : )
Well said ER everyone should try one🙂
Your side step from the burger was a impressive choice Dave. I'm really looking forward to seeing it in a couple weeks.
We definitely need a bigger scooter presence in the US. Most dealers don't want to be bothered or just carry the low cc ones. I can understand the desire for a large cc motorcycle for long distance highway travel, but I think the majority of daily urban motorcycle commuters like me could embrace the practicality of a scooter over a motorcycle if there were more choices. My FZ6 is fun to ride, but in reality, I'm just making short bursts between traffic lights on secondary roads during my 6-mile one-way commute. The highway is usually too congested to bother with and I rarely get over 45 mph to enjoy the speed if I do take it. I'm ready to get one, but I want something larger than a PCX 150.
The Burgman650 had a massive presence in the US in the early 2000s. Then it's almost disappeared. Shame really, it's a good scoot.
I'm a bit late but thought I'd mention that I have done several return trips in Thailand from Chiang Mai to Maha Sarakham. There's a great mix of flat and winding hills, on a 155cc NMax. 9.5 hrs down and 10-11 back (haven't figured that out yet). It is the limit of riding reasonably comfortable, speeds often in 100-110kph range but avge at 75. Only a weekender backpack under the seat and lone rider. 2 up would make the bike work too hard and would surely take 2 days.
The 350 will take 2-up on a comfortable tour through hill and Dale. JMO
Very good reasons, I know sometimes us bikers give scooters a bad name but they do serve their purpose really well, and there's a reason why all the delivery companies use them, the most practical use of 2 wheels.
Great video mate, hope you're well.
Thanks RB, I get too meet the MK legend soon. 👍🍻
@@exeterrider Is RevBomb coming too? 😉😂
@@TheRhythmicBiker 😁👍
Im a big guy and love the suspension and ergos of the ADV 350 here in Thailand.
The handlebar is very UN-scooter like being wide like the dirt bikes we all grew up with.
Wish it was sold in the USA.
Exactly, it works really well.
I couldn't agree more. They are an excellent way into motorcycling. You can learn balance, handling and traffic awareness on something so easy to ride. Being economical and having good storage, I will keep a 125 scooter as well as a bike.
You now seem able to get your leg over on a regular basis and I hope that continues for you for many years 😂😂😂😘
Very much so Lilly, I have got my leg over far more than I did in my earlier years . Im alot softer than what i was though, I mean when my beautiful soft buttocks are on the seat. They say as life goes on things get harder. I'm not finding that the case.😂
O yes and I agree with everything you said there : )
😂😂😂😂😂 I will not get that image out of my head now 😂
Great video, scooter was great fun in India, but here had my heart set on a bike. That 350 looks fun! Thanks for sharing 😊🙏
The 350 was very good, and in the rain on the SB73 rideout it was perfect! Thanks QPB👍
Funny how in places like Italy, France, Spain etc so many people ride scooters and they’re cool. But here there is a stigma attached, so if anyone is worried about street cred, they won’t have one. By the time you need one for physical reasons, you don’t care anyway 🙂
Yeap exactly, It is quite snooty over here for scoots. the only thing that bothers me about them is the feet position and it looks like side saddling and a little nancyish...apart from that I like em.
Perfect 😊 excellent mode of transport 😊
Practically speaking- yes for sure
Lovely video that ER
May be short but still to the point
That’s probably what your Mrs says
Great to see the video
Have a good week matey 😊😊
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I would like to see you try out a trike such as Yamaha Tricity 300, Piaggio MP3 and maybe a Can Am to hear your thoughts!
I'm open to trying but they turn me off on so many levels , let alone paying for the extra wheel set up etc. Lifes expensive enough....you never know unless you try I guess!!
A friend has an ADV350 and raves about it. I have a small scooter but don't like the riding position, so I'd rather have a motorcycle. Also, I like changing gear. They are no cheaper to run than the equivalent sized motorcycle. Storage is the plus point for scooters. And keeping your feet dry. Nothing else.
My issue with scoots is they can get a little boring and the leg position is too nancy for me, but I still enjoy them.
@@Borderman47 Perfect happy medium perhaps for many a 350
@@exeterrider Agree with both these points.
Hallo i test drove one today in Greece it is extremely good scooter this except one thing. Here in Greece especially in Athens we have very bad roads and the rear suspension was hitting very hard. The dealer said that it could be fixed if you try an ohlins suspension this may reduce the problem. Do you know any solution to this problem? Thanx your videos are awesome!!
Hi, ohlins always make a good job of suspension set ups. I'm not aware of any other options.
It's good to hear you thought alot of the scooter aswell👍
I'm not a scooter guy .....yet but your reasoning is sound. I don't say never anymore. 👍
I'm the same, I think as you get older "never say never " really has significance.
Not sure I can be fulfilled with this option. But I have looked at the Trail 125. We will see where I land.
I’ve noticed that your handguards are mounted inverted (left on right and op), I had the same issue with mine ADV until I have one of them replaced, you should check it out, now upper side of hand is poorly protected from wind :)
OK Thanks , I kinda know what you mean there ,although it didnt cause me any issues . Thanks for the heads up!
When you're old enough to remember Mod's & Rockers, scooters and motorcycles are at opposing ends of the spectrum. That said, in my teens-twenties I was a member of a local bike gang, one of whom rode a Honda C70. Having 9 brothers and sisters it was all he could afford and each year another sibling vied for street cred.
Ha that's a great memory 😊👍
Yet another cracking video.
Cheers Cent. Hope all is well with you. Will get out to Thursday bike night out Credy sometime : )
Great video, whats your thoughts on 18st rider, and bit of uk touring on
Depends on budget Danny, and is it a scooter only you want?. The old 650 burgmans were great tourers. I had one, you could get 2 full face helmets under the seat too👍
@exeterrider Have thought about burgman but only seem to find either very early ones or not in good condition, other bike can't get away from is nc750 dct, like both models of nc but which 8s the question if did go down that route. Thanks for replying, Dan
@@DannyT636 so much choice Dan!
@exeterrider So much it does my brain in trying to find that ideal bike.
I e always had an affinity for scooters as well as motorcycles
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Enjoy my bikes but would not be without my Honda Forza 350. Use it all year round and it never looks dirty. 😊
Amen!
Id fancy one for the work commute 👌
Yeap, stick your lid under the seat then off you go👍🍻
Will you be doing a full review of the ADV? I have the Forza 350 and contemplating whether to swap it for the ADV version with its better front suspension.
Hi, I have a first ride, and main review already up so have a search.... You may have seen mine already 👍
Do not expect huge differene. I rode both. ADV have bigger clerance. For trafic filtering or leg protection Forza is better option (I own ADV). But ADV has some great features.
This is NOT offroad bike (some guys do not get marketing)! Just ADV style.
@@podunkman2709 agreed, it's not an offroader💯👍
changed my front fork springs with Progressive & thicker oil. It’s totally improved
ER what is the seat comfort like compared to say the 2021 NC750X on long distances/touring?
The seat on the ADV350 is much better than the 2021 but not as good as the 2022 onwards NC.
I'm really thinking of (eventually) getting a 125-160cc scooter for short 1-2 mile errands. Its a distance where the car is too much if you just want a loaf of bread, and the motorcycle looks silly and too much of a chore (I've tried to fit a Swiss roll on my tank before).
I think scooter would be best.
They are really handy to have for those errands for sure 👍🍻
I had my share of riding motorcycle when I was younger now that I am 60 years old and I'm looking for comfort and peace of mind.
I'm 47 and feel the same way for the last 20 years! : )
At one time I played with an Aprilia Habana . Despite being a 50 it really was a laugh. I even managed the odd overtake on the 60mph A149. Clean, plenty of storage and half decent weather protection. I expected it to be a pain but thoroughly enjoyed it. The more modern scooters must be great ULEZ busters ( apart from London’s thieves 😢)
Ello mate, hope your doing well....yes they do have a bad rep in London don't they! again you can see why the scum find them so practical : (
@@exeterrider good here. Hope you’re doing well too!
@@exeterrider yeah. They’re a right pain
Nice one ER but reason 1 for not buying is; You were slowest vehicle on that road - dreadful!!!
Who me, ,I was doing 75 😊😊😂
I want a Honda NX500, but to be honest, the Honda ADV 350 makes it hard for me to decide which one I want.
I see the issue there. Depends on your part riding history, age, abuilty and what you want to do with it really.
I struggle to get my leg over. Not quiet ready for a scooter. But never say never.....
I know what you mean, I will go back to one one day I hope, but for now I have the T-shirt . : )
Looking at getting a adv350 or the big brother the x adv 750 not to sure what to do is the x adv is 750 worth an extra 5k please comment if you have tried both the bikes
I havent tried the 750, I want to though, I hear nothing but good things about it 👍
Scoots are great, I'd love the Honda X-ADV 750 if I had the funds and room, TBH, I wouldn't mind an old Vespa or Lambretta either... but that would not be for any of these reasons in this video! 😀
Yes I've always fancied a Quadrephenia style weekend away with like minded folk. How fun would that be! Bit of Northern soul and all that would be awesome!
@@exeterrider absobloominlutely
X-ADV is NOT a scooter.
Just a scooter style...
Same thing in my book👍
Scooters are cool, but never over a motorcycle. If you're able to choose, motorcycle all the way.
I think I feel the same at the moment 🍻👍
I have a 300 Forza for commuting and shopping and a BMW R 1200RT for touring - works for me! The Forza is so relaxing and easy to ride, lots of torque and with after market shocks goes round corners really well. One problem with scooters are the plague of pot holes that has appeared with the rise of super heavy EV cars - some of these pot holes are very deep and can bottom out the suspension on a scooter - the front end upgrade is planned for the autumn. Apparently EVs may be banned form multi-storey car parks because they are so heavy - that green stripe on the number plate will mean more and more inconvenience for the owners I fear.
Hi Jon,
Thats a perfect combo for city or touring combo....I like whats in your garage : )
The seat is to Highmore these old legs over it & I can't flat foot it .I wanted a x adv 750 . I'm not sure witch is the case either. I'm getting smaller, or the bikes are getting bigger
The XDV is higher than the road focused scooters I think.
my makes by Colstart a "clack" when i give a little Bit Gas...ist that normal?
Not sure TBH
Nothing wrong with a scooter,especially one with some power like the sh 300i.
I'm still gaging to get on a 300i
3 reason not to buy a scooter as an ex scooter owner (Yamaha nmax 155,honda adv350)
1st)really bad suspensions
2nd) boring
3rd)too much expensive 🫰
Each to there own 👍🍻
It’s a mobility thing and also sometimes I want the ease of it all
💯Percent 👍
Hmmm...... So, if a scooter can help you get a leg over perhaps i should consider one.... 🤔😁😛
Me too, When I was loaned this scooter girls were jumping off buildings and running in the road ,chasing me down the street so it did have an effect for sure.....Or maybe it was that cat I ran over?
@@exeterrider 🤣🤣🤣
I'm always considering getting a forza 350 or adv 350 but have an issue with the stigma attached to scooter riders from other bikers...
my 700 scooter/bike runs rings around most bikes - that is why grumbling occurs!
That is GOLD!!! love it!
I know what you mean there Mick, and I had a bit of that when I owned mine but you know what F*** em😀 your the one smiling through the traffic and getting into parking spaces while they struggle and have to concentrate.
Only here once buy want you want to ride, all the good bikers (95%) of people will treat you the same.
That is GOLD!!! love it!
My 650 Burgman could do over a geared 650 any day, went really well!
Love my adv 350 very much, would love you to do a review on the x-adv 👍
Maybe this year sometime👍
Nobody ever looks succulent on a scooter 😝
I have a review of a 125 scooter coming up. You will be impressed of my succulentcy even on a 125 scoot😂🛵😉
@@exeterrider OK then I look forward to becoming moist 😳
I dare to disagree with you regarding. I have had just normal motorcycle but sccootes due to the belt change and all the plastic ar concidered to be quite espensive to maintain.
Belt changes hardly ever need doing on scoots....some ive seen have done over 50k without a change. Belts are a very good way for next to zero maintenance in my eyes.
Had the belt changed on my Honda Forza at a main dealer at 16,000 miles. Done it while I waited, took one hour. Total cost £180.☺️👍
As you know Exmouth, I’m a huge fan of scooters of all sizes.
I just love the practicality of them. The weather protection when you get caught in a shower, the storage capacity, the fact that you can usually find a gap to park them right next to where you are going. That ADV is very tempting but too pricey for me. Something like that would be a lovely “old man bike” when I can no longer manage motorcycles.
Cheers Exmouth. I bet it’s great when you head off to the big smoke. I bet it cuts through that Exeter traffic like a hot knife through butter. Love the scoots !
El Outro and Roby 👍
Yes a lot to be said for them and if I didnt have a cat lucency then perhaps that would be the way to go.
The only thing I don't like it's the over rev waiting for the cvt to bite.... But with the Hondas, that isn't a issue with the esp drive units.
El outro to you both 🐕
@@exeterrider What is a "cat lucency" ? Is that an Exmouth thing ? Ruby says that anything nasty you do to cats is a good thing, she's all in favour of it !
I don't mind the CVT slip myself, all part of the fun. It is a pain in slow manoeuvres but I like the challenge !
Cheers Matey, should be off out on my Meteor in a moment 👍🏻
El Outro y Roby
Damn, sorry ER I have no idea what that had meant to say.... my phone is awful at self correcting my already crap spelling.....cat lunacy it certainly is , been drinking too much muff water me thinks!
@@exeterrider Having oiled and fired up my own personal enigma machine I have deciphered your reply. I believe that 'cat lucency' was actually intended to be 'car licence' ( so pretty close really 😂 ).
So you were saying that if you didn't have a car licence, a scooter would be the way to go.
Keep those encoded messages coming Exmouth, you never know who might be listening in, possibly some of those devious Exeter types ! Mum's the word !
El Outro out !
I would happily ride a CVT machine with in built storage but I would want it in motorbike-format.
This is because I am 6'4'' and do not want the higher foot-boards as I don't want my knees up round my ears (not with this type of riding anyway...ʕ ꈍᴥꈍʔ ) and I want larger wheels given the state of our roads.
I fondly remember the Gilera DNA but it was far too small for me
Yes I know what you mean with the higher footboards, I think that is my only gripe with scoots is the leg postion they put you into...its almost like ladys side saddling.
They are rather like an armchair on wheels and I prefer the security of a leg each side of a motorbike but I just couldn't find one low AND light enough for me to learn to ride. Hence the scooter.
@@lilynorthover8378I've always had the habit of riding my road bike in the high end of the gauge so I quit when my son was born. I was so anti-scooter until I traveled Asia, the 'armchair' thing is exactly what hypnotized me and lit me up. Cruising the back roads with all the sounds of nature and the views, all seem so much bigger and better. I'm 70 and itching to get a m/c also, but I'm broken in places so I may get a Himalayan. Just hate to b/c they're so darn trendy.
@@RonniesRambles if you want to be untrendy, why not try a Honda CL 500. Service intervals are thousands of miles and the longest I've heard of for valve checks on a Honda is 24 years🤣 Comfort wise Exeter Rider's Honda a 750 comes as an automatic.
Handlebar wobbles on my ADV 😒 only 6000 Km. now....
Take it back. I had none of that with mine.
Struggling to get your leg over? There's blue pills for that nowadays, my guy 😂
Scooters are definitely a good option for the right use 👍
I swear school friends were spiking my drink with those blue pills in my early teens.
@@exeterrider 🤣🤣🤣
Doing 58 in a 50! Naughty
I'm exeterrider so it's ok
58 on the clock equals about 54 real mph on the ADV (measured via GPS) Well within the 10% + 2mph 'you're nicked' threshold 🙂
@@adrianleach1670 well said mate. Infact I just rewatched it and I was past the roadworks by the time I went over 50 so I was within then..... Anyway🙄😉😂😂
@Adrian Leach my bikes the same, lol. Its at least 3mph difference between the clock and actual speed
I'm pretty sure they do that on all bikes on purpose to allow legal wiggle room. Makes sense.
If you're old, don't order an ADV350, you'll be dead before it arrives at the dealers!
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75 mph on the speedo ehh?
Yes? it was optimistic
@@exeterrider And illegal. You need to fuzz it before Plod relieves you of excess income.
75mph on the speedo. Probably doing under 70mph. Should've dropped down a gear and got a move on.
OH NOES .............. Never buy a Lady Bike .........
😮😮Scooter shamer Phil. You will be having 12" wheels thrown through your window !
Nice didn’t know you owned a scooter 🛵
I don't , it was a 4 week loaner in this vid : )
@@exeterrider lol I meant before
ahh I see, yes, I had the Honda and a Burgman 650 : ) The Burger was a beast to look at but it was a nice and fast ride.
@@exeterrider I had the burgman as a pit bike when I raced as a whip around lol great bikes