Story 1: it wasn’t accidental he purposely ruined her career. In his update he made sure to let people know that without him now she has nothing and will be homeless. She has no safety net and is now completely at his mercy. It was done on purpose
Exactly. I think it's also important to remember that she told him she had stopped doing that previous modeling job so it wouldn't affect her teaching career. He knew that was a worry she had and he couldn't keep his mouth shut.
oh wow, so not only is he TA, he also went out of his way to look for validation for his bad behaviour from strangers on the internet. 🙄 don’t you just love human beings
I almost laughed out loud when the extended family was saying, “you’re putting money before family.” That’s literally what her parents did by spending HER money for school on a wedding! Is your daughter suddenly not your family when you need money for florals and catering? Stop clownin’. 😂
THIS! I thought the exact same thing and asked out loud, "and what were the parents doing?" OP in that story is definitely NTA as that money was legally hers
Exactly! They could have discussed it with her like “hey we can’t afford all this right now/dont want to accrue debt, can we use your money temporarily and we will replenish the funds later” or something. She still wouldn’t be obligated to agree, but that would have at least demonstrated respect for her.
It’s disgusting and sexist . I feel they have middle eastern or asian back ground where women are to be married and stay at home so a man has to be the provider thus chosen to have earned this money because anyway she will be married off to a another provider !
As someone who worked as a stripper for a short time I’ll say this Morgan has it right on the nose! I legit said to my grandmother “unless you are going to pay my bills this is what I need to do right now” I was a Starbucks barista by day stripper by night lol
My take is, that as long as it's a legal job and you're doing it on your own will without being forced into it, then any job is okay to do. You might not want to advertise some jobs due to social repercussions, but you should also never be ashamed to do a job so you can be/stay financially independent - and people really shouldn't judge you for it.
@@luisekahnt7387 100% I will say in my circumstance free will was subjective bc I did feel like America was making me do it 😂 but that’s why I stopped as soon as I could lol
@@samanthapadgett2594 I guess when it's a question of doing this or starving while no other options are available, you could probably always argue whether it really was free will or not. So, I totally get how a last resort job can feel like it was forced on you. But as long as noone is physically or psychological forcing you to do it, I would still argue you're doing it on your own volition.
The first story boggles my mind, because the GF fully told him that she stopped doing modeling so that it wouldn't negatively impact her career. So how can he pretend that he was ignorant to the impact it would have when the consequences of gossiping about this topic were fully outlined for him previously. It feels like he's backtracking now after he wanted to brag and or hurt her for not being completely transparent about her past 🙃
Ya he's lying, he told it to a known gossip, the school board happened to get their hands on these pictures they never knew existed before. They run background checks and look for this stuff and I'm suspicious he never mentioned how he just happened to come across these old pictures
I also didn't understand why he needed to wrap his head around it. First, it was just modeling - even if it resulted in some nude pictures - not being a porn star or sex worker. Second, it was in her past so didn't affect him at all. Also if he was so uncomfortable with her having nude pictures on her Instagram, he should have talked to her about it and even asked her to maybe take them down, he definitely shouldn't have drawn other people's attention to it.
I'm wondering if she was working for a private school that was faith based. That's got to be the only way the school could justify it in my non legal mind.
My friend just got fired for her high school teaching job. A kid put his hands on her and she filed a complaint, the board took the child's side and claimed she was dressed either inappropriately or was too suggestive by personally caring for her students. She cried as she left, since when can a student touch a teacher and not get suspended for it?
I’m a former teacher and I have MANY stories of things students did that were not only against school policy but straight up illegal and their punishment was either no punishment or ISS for a week. It’s insane what students get away with nowadays because all it takes is one parent posting about the school negatively on Facebook for admin to cower.
@@superpunkin93 nice screw that school and school board I hope they gotta pay and take it outta their checks. Unfortunately the school and children will suffer from it being taken from them most likely.
The college fund story was so bogus. The aunt was passionate about educating women and the future of the women in their family. For the family to go off and spend a college educations worth of money on a male family member’s wedding was like spitting on the aunt’s grave in my opinion. That’s also an insane amount of money to spend on a wedding too when it’s not even your own funds.
@@kirstenmcmaster1125 I was literally thinking the same thing! Although a lot of people suspect that the brother is just talking out his ass to get OP to let it go.
The first story makes me wonder if the boyfriend felt like his girlfriend needed to be “punished” for having promiscuous photos of her out there on the internet. I wouldn’t be surprised if he told his gossipy friend this information on purpose because he knew the information may make it back to her school and give him plausible deniability, or if he even told the school himself.
This! Also I am not even sure how the bf found the photos in the first place, like are they on her private ig or were they posted publicly by a photographer she worked with? I am not sure how this came up in the first place that he didn’t already know about
someone just posted that there was an update and he purposely went outta his way to make sure she lost her job and i’m sure there was also a part that mentioned his indifference to the fact that she’s now homeless. 🐍☹️
@@100BD seriously? Poor girl, what a sneaky little monster of a boyfriend. People like him are why women still get demonized for things people have no business judging them for.
this ‼️ There’s no defending him for me. It’s sick. His motives were as rotten as his actions. No devil’s advocate needed. Made me sick to even hear “what you put on the internet can haunt you” well it’s 2023. Ghost busters bish! No one should be judged or shamed, Especially over harmless flirty photos. Stop saying that shit.
I’m a 4k teacher and sadly it’s in our contract that there is certain things you can’t post online. It’s also sadly affects what my friends and family can post as well. When I turned 21 my dad posted a picture of me with a drink in my hand and a parent saw and I had to have a meeting with my principal.
What the fuckkkk this is ridiculous. I don’t get how people get mad about normal things?! These parents are delusional and the schools enable them. If I was a principal and someone came to me with that complaint I’d be like “and? They celebrated their 21st with a drink? Do you hear yourself”
I was coming to say something similar. I lost my job and license for FAR less. Basically I posted a video to my PERSONAL social media that a random parent didn’t like and she lied to my admin. Then the school said it “made them look bad” even though no one from the school saw the video… so they got rid of me and filed a complaint against me with the BOE.
I left full-time teaching in 2021 but when I was graduating from my masters program, they made us go through all of our social media and take down photos that could be considered bad like drinking photos or photos of us in like more revealing clothes. Including bikinis I had a friend actually who worked at the same school district that I am currently substituting for and she was told to take down bikini photos. I’ve always been a pretty private person despite having a UA-cam channel but yeah, I think it’s ridiculous. One of the few reasons why I’m leaving the education industry.
The college fund story was very upsetting. My uncle drained the college funds for me, my siblings, and most of my cousins so that he could take his family of 8 on vacation every year and buy a ranch. We didn't catch it for 10 years and by then it was too late. We sued him and he is now in prison, which doesn't make up for the fact that I now have student debt when I shouldn't have
“SomEhOw it got into the wrong hands!” No, the first person DEFINITELY gave the school the pictures himself. He 100% did it, especially with that update where he said “she’s nothing without me”, he purposely made sure she couldnt work and so she has to rely on him and if she were to leave, he would likely make sure her photos follow her everywhere. He just told on himself. He probably did tell his friends, but I doubt they caused her to lose her job, I think the actual OP is the one that did it and wants to act like the gossip-y friend is the one that did it.
The first story makes me sad, we have so many new young women entering the work force who have taken some “sexually charged” photos & to think that could come back & bite them is so upsetting ESPECIALLY when on the other hand men send unwarranted d*ck pics all the time (sometimes to CHILDREN) & they still have their careers.
Soo true! In the uk at least unsolicited d!ck pics are considered sh, whereas she was literally modelling underwear, how is that a firing offence?! It’s not playboy! What kind of partner deliberately ruins their so’s dream job? Insecure little man 😒 I bet she went to college racked up loads of student debt and now she might even be blacklisted because she used her physique to get by at one point in her life. Utterly messed up 😓
For the Turkish proposal, what you’re describing is the söz (promise). Basically a proposal is done before hand where the groom asks the bride. And after the proposal, a söz is done where the groom’s family asks for the approval of the bride’s family. The Turkish coffee has salt in it like you said to see how the groom will react and so on. It is one of my favorite traditions that we have and it was really fun to see how others perceive it
@@dianash.6495 I am Turkish(F), now living abroad away from my family. I know that it is mostly done that way but I think the rings are tied(literally tied with a ribbon and then cut) on a different (engagement) event. Gold and money are given mostly during the wedding. But I personally don't like this tradition. My fiance will not ask my family for permission because I don't want him to. I am not an object after all, I made my own choice to marry him. I also won't be holding a Turkish wedding but only because I don't like weddings of any kind. A small get together and dinner is good for me. I feel like weddings cost more than what you receive from the guests anyways. It isn't worth the headache for me.
story 5: my name is ALSO alejandra but i always tell people who cant say my name that if they can pronounce charcutrerie, they can at least try to pronounce mine. it isn't hard and i find most people don't even put effort in to try because of racism.
Exactly. If they can say Alexandra can't they figure out how to pronounce one letter? It's pure racism: you're not as important for them to figure out how to say your name. Well no, this is not your perfect opportunity to choose me a nickname. It is not the name's fault
@@alysonnataliavasquezsolano8066 but english doesn't actually have a j like in Spanish, or х in russian or ח in hebrew and ect. In russian we dont have H, so anything that has h, my grandma pronounce with Ch/j haha
@@DepressiveCookie Right? You need to be held to a higher moral standard than politicians, Lawyers, Counselors, doctors, but we give them like 9 dollars an hour after the breakdown. YIKES. "Put up, or shut up" would be the phrase I'd be throwing out, as well.
the way my jaw DROPPED at the birthday present story, when he said "those are the only diamonds you¨re ever gonna get from me" AND IT JUST KEPT GOING OH GOD
Story 1: he knew she didn’t tell anyone so it wouldn’t jeopardise her career. He told a friend that he knows works at the school and is a gossip. Even if it wasn’t intentional, it was incredibly stupid and self centred. The fact that he wanted to share it was more important to him than the ramifications for her speaks volumes.
For the teacher story , I had an experience in high school where one of the teachers had posted her engagement photos to her PRIVATE Facebook pages and a lot of the boys had a thing for her and found the photos. They were not revealing at all she looked stunning but because they were circulating around students she was forced to remove them 😢
Literally, what is the logic?? It's just perpetuating the idea of "girls need to cover up, so the boys can focus". Now it's, "you look good on your wedding day, this is a bad thing"💀
I would have quit, no way I would be ok with not sharing something so important. Schools need to put their priorities elsewhere like bullying than their business up in the teachers
@@taylorhardy3454 I completely agree, honestly it was bullying on the part of the students as they were essentially taking a way from her a special and private moment that is meant to be happy. She is happily married though, and an excellent teacher, so I guess there's some light at the end?
With student loans it's ridiculous. They're basically punishing students for borrowing money when everyone knows full well that most students are the most broke people and the jobs they get out the gate are gonna be on the lower pay scale end as they're just starting. But they're so expensive. I'm in Canada and we can go on programs to help out with that but I don't know what there is for the states. It seems more rough though.
As a Turkish listener: Coffee test is a tradition that comes from arranged marriages. The groom's side of the family visits bride's family to ask for their blessing, which is an ongoing tradition to this day. But back in the day in case of it being arranged, if bride made the coffee sweet that meant she likes the groom and is interested. If she made it salty that meant she isn't interested, to let him and also her family know through the groom's reaction. Now, bride makes salty turkish coffee even if it's not an arranged marriage, so everyone has a laugh seeing how the groom reacts (some go waayy overbroad with it to the point i fear groom can get sick lol)
On the second one I think OP made it clear to her cousin that she was just serving. The cousin just sounds judgmental and hateful and wants control. Using the kids to get her way is too far!
Tbh some of this stories to me are crazy as an european, for example the teacher one, I can’t believe how EASY it is to get fired in the States, here in Italy if something like that happened that school would be sued into oblivion lol
For real- i left the teaching field for many reasons, but one of them being that I don’t want to be judged for what i do off the clock. My personal life should not be scrutinized by my supervisors at work.
@@shannongulgren9132 if teachers were paid what they deserve MAYBE they could have outside of work rules. But underpaid AND In prison? HELL NO. it’s wrong!!!
Yeah, dutchie here. Especially the student and credit debt talks are CRAZY to me. Never heard people talk about going in debt for their wedding here....
My parents named all of us 'Standard American Names' so we wouldn't have an issue with interviews. It HAS ALWAYS HELPED ME GET THE INTERVIEW.... I hate it has been this way but it is.
It’s sad, but it’s so common in immigrant families and communities because of the societal stigma here in America. So many people I know from immigrant families have their given names (and culture-based names) and then their “American”names. “My real name is X, but no one can pronounce it/spell it so you can call me Y.”
As a white woman with a different name. This is all 100% true. My name is Diamond and I got bullied all through school for it (being a stripper, etc). I’ve gone as far as to put a headshot and links to my linked in so that potential employers see me. It’s gone as far as since I marked “ caucasian” on a job application and my name is diamond, people have not hired me thinking it’s a “joke”. I’ve also had black friends change their ethnicity on resumes and said that the difference of interest is ASTOUNDING.
Oof! I’m half white with the first name Diamond. All but the two retail jobs I’ve had, the employer was a POC. At no point did I think my name had anything to do with it. Also, I went by a nickname at work because customers kept asking, “So what is your REAL name? 😏”
Why do white woman need to announce themselves as white ? What does that have anything to do with your story ? You could have just talked about your name being diamond and kept it pushing. Also, the fact that you tried extremely hard to PROVE your whiteness is telling. Girl, please check your privilege, and since you can understand somewhat about what POC go through in terms of their names on resumes, maybe use your whiteness to uplift POC. Try to be a part of removing the name discrimination and hiring people based on their work experience. Please stop announcing that you are white, nobody cares.
That's crazy because my name is diamond too, I'm mixed & I grew up in the hood around poc/black people who were all excepting of me and then during highschool I started going to a predominately white school and i got the stripper name comment often even by teachers and people who didn't know me thought my name was a joke too.
First of all: I love your podcast. I listen to you from Germany and probably because I study sociology I find your perspective on certain topics so interesting because it is so different from Europe. Especially when it comes to weddings, bachelorette parties and also topics like student debt or the healthcare system... have you ever thought about inviting a person who grew up in a European country and just talk about the different experiences and opinions on certain topics?
Yeeees! I’m from a post-Soviet country and also find it super interesting how the perspective could be different! Would love to see a person from Europe or Latin America on the episode ❤
Totally agree. As a person from Norway I feel like some of our opinions and experiences are different. Like people here leave their babies in the strollers outside to sleep year round. And I know we have different values but it’s interesting to hear another take on things. Also another things is suing people for stuff.? (Don’t know if it’s common but I do see a lot of comments on stories saying “sue them”) I remember when I was a kid I had a friend who’s mom was American, and we were playing hair salon and cut each other’s hair. She said she was going to sue us for my parents not watching us and me “damaging her hair” (even tho they were visiting us and where in the next room) also we were 5. We don’t talk anymore
As a teacher, they can’t fire you for past events. Stuff like that have gone to court, and the school has lost. If it has nothing to do with the learning abilities of the students, then they can’t give you consequences.
The diamond drill bit story sounds to me like the OP’s partner is insecure about his boundary he set. I don’t think he fully believes that the OP or their friends/family are accepting of him never marrying her. And to compensate for his complicated feelings, he projected them onto her as a “joke.” The problem to me seems he’s so blinded by his own feelings that he didn’t realize he humiliated her.
Story 1: As someone who used to be a teacher, I always had a fear of being confident and sexy for this reason. I decided that wasn't the life I wanted for myself, it wasn't good for my mental health. I now own a small coffee shop in Wisconsin, where I can wear what I want. Do I still have to be careful about what I say? Of course. But i'm not worried about posting pictures of myself in a bikini or swearing in a personal social media post now. It sound like this modeling gig was a great way to make money to make it through college (She could have done worse things) and it's such a shame that educators aren't allowed to live life outside of school. I'm so glad I left teaching behind me. And I can still teach art to the public at my shop and not stress about if i'm "following the state guidelines".
Story 1 : The fact that he made a aita post means he feels guilty about what he did, the fact that he says " oh but it wasn't me, my friend is a gossip" means he knows it's his fault and he just hopes someone will tell him 'honest mistake'. F--- off dude, you know what you did.
Morgan, I just wanted to say you make me feel a lot better by being transparent about your student loans. I am really sad and ashamed that I had to take some out, none of my friends understand how hard it is to not have that headstart (they all get it paid for). You make me feel like its okay because of your success
The comment about gender neutral names is so true. Me and my siblings all have gender neutral names (and racially ambiguous). I also got a PhD to make it even more ambiguous. When people see Dr. and my identity-ambiguous name, it's just helpful. I get a lot more respect via email than I do in person (from the same people).
1:09:30 as someone who did legally have hyphenated middle names, i would not recommend hyphenating your first names. Some online forms do not allow "special characters" and depending on the situation it could be a hassle. When i started donating plasma, it took almost an hour for the employees to figure out how to put me into the system because they have legal regulations to follow and my double middle name threw a wrench in that system. When i legally changed my last name after marriage, i took that opportunity to get rid of the hyphen as well.
My best friend works at a private catholic school. In her contract, she can get fired if they find out she is using birth control, had an abortion, or attended a gay wedding. :/
Wtf? Birth control? As a dude even I know that some women use it for hormonal regulations and stuff with their period. Catholic schools are outrageously controlling. I live in AZ and there’s a school called Xavier and they will expel students for the same things
As someone with family that CONSTANTLY let's them down, you actually really get used to it and it's like "I could be mad or I could have family I see regularly" so you take the bad with the good and you move VERY far away.
the name pronunciation conversation was so relatable lmao- always said i would name my child something hopefully unique enough that they don't have to use their last initial to be identified in school but was easy enough for a substitute to pronounce. nothing like having to correct authority figures with crippling anxiety lmao. eventually, i just started responding to the names they called me.
It's true, my mom's last name is Garcia and because off that everytime she wants to see my family in the states she gets pulled out off line and treat her like a criminal. There were many more examples were things like this happened like job interviews. She didn't wish this for me and my sister and the fact we all have a skin collar didn't help our case. So my mom gave us our dads last name because it's a dutch last name. It's a pity because i think it's a beautiful last name. Love you guys so much ❤❤
I cried when I went over my student debt too. I didn’t even finish college because I knew the debt would not be worth the money I would make once I graduated. I have cried and had panic attacks so many times when looking at/thinking about my student debt. I hope you become a millionaire from this podcast so you can pay it all off and maybe we will get some relief with the changes being made to student loans right now.
Story 1 - This is the type of man I’m scared of meeting. Whether he’s trying to cover truly malicious actions with needing to “vent” to his friends or he’s genuinely that clueless about what his actions could result in when he’s talking to a known gossip, he’s in the wrong and doesn’t seem to feel that bad about it. I honestly think he did it on purpose because it’s not at all uncommon for men to be deeply bothered by their partner’s sexual experiences/histories, while also expecting their partner to somehow magically be good at intimacy on pure instincts. On a different video that read this story, this grandpa (he mentioned his granddaughter for some reason or another in one of his many comments) said she was in the wrong and was abusing him financially. Which… you know 1. she isn’t, but 2. he put her in a position where she lost her source of income. That commenter was unhinged and basically made it all her fault.
For the strip club story, I loved Alejandras take. It almost sounds as if the cousin has trauma from that industry and just hates it. Regardless of what people say, it is a very dangerous business, and a lot of really messed up things happen. Assault, trafficking, etc. Maybe the cousin used to work as a stripper and something awful happened? I mean, I know a lot of people who hate that industry because it's exploitative and misogynistic. It's not too far-fetched for her to just really hate that scene and people that are a part of it. I think if you do something taboo, you should be able to accept that not everyone is going to support you.
Damn that name story hurt my feelings just a bit lol as my name is Crystal. But I loved my mom’s reason for naming me that. But yeah the way OP’s sister is intending to spell it is crazy. Every time that girl tells someone her name when putting her information in she’ll have to explain it. It’ll be awkward and time consuming. And for the Tennis story, no that guy got his Karma losing that game. He kept challenging and boasting.
My student loan debt is also bad and is starting to creep up on me while I finish school so I really appreciate how open you are about it. It’s sooo nice to know I’m not alone! ❤️
For the Turkish proposal story i wanna add and correct some things as a Turkish bride :D It is not usually the first proposal. It is more like grooms side of the family asking for approval and blessing of the brides family. And the coffee usually have salt in it so thats why they look to the groom. If he drink it without hesitation it shows the dedication of the groom. And they come with gifts to bride. Nowadays couples have proposal before this traditional ceremony and it is happrning after to connect families. Sorry if i sound confusing, english is not my first languange ❤
Story 5: I have a boys name and I used to get confusing looks from professors and teachers. I love my name but getting weird looks or being called Taylor is really annoying.
The story about the baby names, can only make me think about the country song “a boy named sue” which is a song about how hard it is growing up being a man with a woman’s name, whose dad gave it to him to “harden” or “toughen” him up.
I agree, Alejandra, that second story is SOOOOO LOOOOONG HOOOOOLY!!!!! The whole time, I was like, “GET TO THE POINT ALREADY!!!!!” (Def catching ME on a bad day 🙈)
Offshoot to lebanese proposal comment: My fiance is Moroccan and Im mexican and our engagement ceremony was SO BEAUTIFUL. I felt like a queen😭 I got a huge moroccan engagement party, henna, gifts of gold and our family was all present. I never imagined that would be my kind of proposal. .
Honestly Morgan, I’d donate to help w those student loans 😩 my jaw DROPPED when I heard that balance and now I’m stressing over the number of YOUR debt 😩🤣🤣
The op in the college fund story has ever right to sue them, they stole a great deal of funds meant for her and her alone. If I was her I would take every legal option I could get and every precaution talking to my family
The cousin in the second story does seem triggered. I'm wondering if she had a friend that worked at that maybe got sucked into the lifestyle, and she was there to watch her spiral.
Story 1: wtf. told a known busy body gossip and got th gf fired. Totally the AH. I don't believe that innocent act, at all. Story 2: what the actual hell? Girl. Keep waiting tables, go back to school. SAVE MONEY! Zero debt is THE best feeling! Save money. Build yourself the life you've always dreamed of. Hopefully your husband will have a sister who fills that void. The chosen family is better than blood! All day every day.
A friend of mine works in law enforcement and a colleague of hers who is a police officer is a fitness model. She did share photos of her (on her private Instagram) lifting weights in sport bra and shorts, and then some photos of her in lingerie. But the lingerie photos wasn’t sexy ones it was just her standing showing off her muscles. Then it got to the attention of some colleague that told the boss and she got in trouble for it (luckily not fired). At the same time several police officers at the same work place that are male and unlike her have an open profile and states their job in the description have similar accounts for fitness and bodybuilding… 🙄
Story 5- I understand the discrimination with names and jobs. My name is Shareice and people perceive that as a “black” name and I have had a really hard time getting jobs when my friends with “white” names will apply the same time as me and get the job immediately. It’s shitty
I love Thursdays because I look forward to the new THT episode! Not sure if this is a better suggestion for THT or FKS (or if it’s already been done) but I would love an episode on Toxic Work environments. A toxic work environment is something many of us has experienced and I would love to hear your stories and advice
The last story: the thing is even if she was the one pushing for no marriage it'd be f**ked up for him to randomly make a show of a statement that is basically "remember I'm never going to marry you." That's not just weird, it's going out of your way to make a spectacle of humiliating your partner. He made her the butt of the "joke" at her own birthday party, surrounded by her friends & family. By doing what he did he also made the whole thing about him rather than about her at her own celebration. She needs to leave him, this is not going to get better.
Story 2: nah her cousin was just being straight up judgmental and masking it as caring. Idc what type of experience she had with strip clubs. OP was suddenly JOBLESS and bills dont just stop. When you're in a situation like that where u need to make choices or you'll lose everything.... it isn't easy. That requires understanding and empathy. But cousin continued to push her negative feelings about strip clubs onto OP and make her feel guilty or less than. She straight up was like "yeah ur not gonna bring your work life into my kids lives" assuming the worst about OP and judging her even WHEN OP SAID SHE WOULD NEVER COMBINE WORK/PERSONAL LIFE??? Sure, cousin could actually care. BUT the way she's talking to OP about it doesn't show any care. Just "this bad. I don't like it. U bad. Me cut u off from daughters". If she cared that much, then maybe she could help hook OP w a more "acceptable" job in cousins eyes. I had a friend who I thought cared about me and I could trust, but she just kept pushing her judgmental opinions onto my choices. Listening to this story's vibes matched my ex-friends judgmental vibes.
Story 1: Dude was bragging, his friends reacted in a way he didn't like (tried to shame him) and then the photos 'somehow' made its way to the school. She told this man that the photos would jeopardise her career. He definitely has something to do with this, more than what he is letting on anyway.
First story: The school is the AH. She did nothing wrong. The pictures are a part of her previous career and not something that happened during her career as a teacher. This is giving misogyny
Turning my notifications on cause UA-cam didn’t notify me of this one when I opened the app like it usually does since I watch weekly. I only knew cause of your insta!
One of my favorite teachers ever had a second job as a bartender and wasn’t supposed to mention it on campus so I can definitely believe the first story is tru. My issue is, if these photos were from prior modeling work and were already public domain then they should have found them in the background check. They can’t fault her now for their failure to look at the beginning of it mattered to them
This was such a great episode! I related to Alejandra so much on this one! First with the names, I also have a Spanish name that is hard to pronounce. And secondly with the butterflies! I thought my fear of butterflies was just me being weird. I've never heard another person say that they are afraid of butterflies lol
😂 my bestie says he was bitten by a butterfly as a child and absolutely hates them still! It's so funny to see a manly man run and scream when he sees butterflies 😂 I'm not a fan of ANY insects so I understand.
I love insects, but butterflies are just as dirty as flies; They love animal droppings just as much. 👍 I wonder what makes people afraid of certain things, besides a traumatic experience. I have a strong aversion to velvet. I don't want it in the same room as me, and I sure as hell will not touch it. Have no clue where it came from! Side story: I was 'attacked' by a butterfly as a kid. It came out of nowhere, startled me, and I fell off the steps and cut my eyebrow open.
A few things on the teacher one: - the pics were both bikini pics and nudes so I am guessing the issue was more the nudes… - the writer said that she did this prior so she isn’t currently posing so I would be asking if they can punish her for a past job?
Easily my favourite the least stupid of her guests and she has some really interesting views even when she pronounces a lot wrong she is entertaining and not afraid to say I made a mistake
As a teacher, there’s a huge need to be very careful about what you post. My students can find ANYTHING if I’ve posted it. Before I applied to the district I got a job in I double checked every form of social media I’ve ever had. Was that bikini pic too much? The picture my friend posted of me in a crop top too risqué? All gone. The expectations we hold teachers to are extremely unfair and too much considering what we’re paid. I do think the district I teach in would have a major issue with those photos if there was a chance the kids or parents could find it.
Two first names club! Having people understand that my first name is Maria Mikaela and I have a completely separate middle name will be my lifelong battle lol. Love the show Morgan Ashley! :)
As a teacher it's directly in our school board policy, which I have to agree to when I sign my contract, that what we do outside of school is still impacting our job. Especially if we are "representing the school" by wearing anything school related or at any school related events. There's a huge list of "unprofessional behavior" that can lead to disciplinary action. I don't agree with the decision in the first story. I think the OP should have been fine and her modeling in the past shouldn't be held against her at all, but sadly I'm not surprised. It sounds like she knew it would get her in trouble as well, which is why she stopped and tried to hide it.
@@TwoHotTakes I think there's a line with this stuff. I WANT companies to be able to hold people responsible for inappropriate behavior even if it's outside of work time. But to me that type of behavior would be racist or homophobic rants or violence etc .... But other people will have different views on what people should be held responsible for, so where do we draw the line? At least for my contract the lines are pretty clear so we know when we're doing something that could come back to bite us... even though I disagree with some of them. It's a hard one...
I agree that the timeframe should have been discussed in which those photos were taken. If they were taken awhile ago, well before her career as a teacher, it should NOT be a reason for termination!
“We’re gonna rapid fire these stories” *goes in depth into student debt for 15min and sends all of us into crisis*
I KNOW LMFAOOOOO
Literally and like I’m on break at work so now I’m like shit I gotta finish eating and WORK 😭😂
Haha I’m sorry!!!!! Awhhh I’m sweating just thinking about it
It’s okay! For a Canadian, it’s interesting to know how your system works😄
right before the ad for PDS Debt 😭💀
Story 1: it wasn’t accidental he purposely ruined her career. In his update he made sure to let people know that without him now she has nothing and will be homeless. She has no safety net and is now completely at his mercy. It was done on purpose
What the fucjkkk. the way I hate this asshole
Exactly. I think it's also important to remember that she told him she had stopped doing that previous modeling job so it wouldn't affect her teaching career. He knew that was a worry she had and he couldn't keep his mouth shut.
What’s his account? I’d like to read the update
I would also add that depending on how he found these photos, she could sue him and the gossip for revenge porn
oh wow, so not only is he TA, he also went out of his way to look for validation for his bad behaviour from strangers on the internet. 🙄 don’t you just love human beings
Alejandra’s speech at 10:45 was so real! “People will look for any reason to discredit you, especially as a woman” 👏🏼👏🏼
I almost laughed out loud when the extended family was saying, “you’re putting money before family.” That’s literally what her parents did by spending HER money for school on a wedding! Is your daughter suddenly not your family when you need money for florals and catering? Stop clownin’. 😂
THIS! I thought the exact same thing and asked out loud, "and what were the parents doing?" OP in that story is definitely NTA as that money was legally hers
Exactly! They could have discussed it with her like “hey we can’t afford all this right now/dont want to accrue debt, can we use your money temporarily and we will replenish the funds later” or something. She still wouldn’t be obligated to agree, but that would have at least demonstrated respect for her.
@@ashleybow 💯
@@MakeupbyR3d Absolutely.
It’s disgusting and sexist . I feel they have middle eastern or asian back ground where women are to be married and stay at home so a man has to be the provider thus chosen to have earned this money because anyway she will be married off to a another provider !
As someone who worked as a stripper for a short time I’ll say this Morgan has it right on the nose! I legit said to my grandmother “unless you are going to pay my bills this is what I need to do right now” I was a Starbucks barista by day stripper by night lol
As a starbucks ssv, I'm considering this 😂
@@casserole1595 I’ll warn you the burn out comes quick being on your feet all day and all night but I made stacks lol
My take is, that as long as it's a legal job and you're doing it on your own will without being forced into it, then any job is okay to do. You might not want to advertise some jobs due to social repercussions, but you should also never be ashamed to do a job so you can be/stay financially independent - and people really shouldn't judge you for it.
@@luisekahnt7387 100%
I will say in my circumstance free will was subjective bc I did feel like America was making me do it 😂 but that’s why I stopped as soon as I could lol
@@samanthapadgett2594 I guess when it's a question of doing this or starving while no other options are available, you could probably always argue whether it really was free will or not. So, I totally get how a last resort job can feel like it was forced on you. But as long as noone is physically or psychological forcing you to do it, I would still argue you're doing it on your own volition.
The first story boggles my mind, because the GF fully told him that she stopped doing modeling so that it wouldn't negatively impact her career. So how can he pretend that he was ignorant to the impact it would have when the consequences of gossiping about this topic were fully outlined for him previously. It feels like he's backtracking now after he wanted to brag and or hurt her for not being completely transparent about her past 🙃
Soooo true!!!!
Ya he's lying, he told it to a known gossip, the school board happened to get their hands on these pictures they never knew existed before. They run background checks and look for this stuff and I'm suspicious he never mentioned how he just happened to come across these old pictures
I also didn't understand why he needed to wrap his head around it. First, it was just modeling - even if it resulted in some nude pictures - not being a porn star or sex worker. Second, it was in her past so didn't affect him at all. Also if he was so uncomfortable with her having nude pictures on her Instagram, he should have talked to her about it and even asked her to maybe take them down, he definitely shouldn't have drawn other people's attention to it.
I'm wondering if she was working for a private school that was faith based. That's got to be the only way the school could justify it in my non legal mind.
But it did
My friend just got fired for her high school teaching job. A kid put his hands on her and she filed a complaint, the board took the child's side and claimed she was dressed either inappropriately or was too suggestive by personally caring for her students. She cried as she left, since when can a student touch a teacher and not get suspended for it?
that’s absolutely disgusting wth
I’m a former teacher and I have MANY stories of things students did that were not only against school policy but straight up illegal and their punishment was either no punishment or ISS for a week. It’s insane what students get away with nowadays because all it takes is one parent posting about the school negatively on Facebook for admin to cower.
Friend needs to talk with a lawyer about sueing the school board and maybe the kids parents.
@@sararoby2566 I believe she was speaking to one the last time I checked in.
@@superpunkin93 nice screw that school and school board I hope they gotta pay and take it outta their checks. Unfortunately the school and children will suffer from it being taken from them most likely.
The college fund story was so bogus. The aunt was passionate about educating women and the future of the women in their family. For the family to go off and spend a college educations worth of money on a male family member’s wedding was like spitting on the aunt’s grave in my opinion. That’s also an insane amount of money to spend on a wedding too when it’s not even your own funds.
Not just 1 but 2! In America that's enough to buy a nice house or 2!
they’re all “family oriented” until female empowerment/equality is involved
Right? And if the brother had so much. Money to pay it back, why didn’t he pay for his wedding in the first place? Lol
@@orcaletta family is always “no matter what!” Until no matter what, happens
@@kirstenmcmaster1125 I was literally thinking the same thing! Although a lot of people suspect that the brother is just talking out his ass to get OP to let it go.
The first story makes me wonder if the boyfriend felt like his girlfriend needed to be “punished” for having promiscuous photos of her out there on the internet. I wouldn’t be surprised if he told his gossipy friend this information on purpose because he knew the information may make it back to her school and give him plausible deniability, or if he even told the school himself.
This! Also I am not even sure how the bf found the photos in the first place, like are they on her private ig or were they posted publicly by a photographer she worked with? I am not sure how this came up in the first place that he didn’t already know about
someone just posted that there was an update and he purposely went outta his way to make sure she lost her job and i’m sure there was also a part that mentioned his indifference to the fact that she’s now homeless. 🐍☹️
@@100BD seriously? Poor girl, what a sneaky little monster of a boyfriend. People like him are why women still get demonized for things people have no business judging them for.
this ‼️ There’s no defending him for me. It’s sick. His motives were as rotten as his actions. No devil’s advocate needed. Made me sick to even hear “what you put on the internet can haunt you” well it’s 2023. Ghost busters bish! No one should be judged or shamed, Especially over harmless flirty photos. Stop saying that shit.
I’m a 4k teacher and sadly it’s in our contract that there is certain things you can’t post online. It’s also sadly affects what my friends and family can post as well. When I turned 21 my dad posted a picture of me with a drink in my hand and a parent saw and I had to have a meeting with my principal.
What the fuckkkk this is ridiculous. I don’t get how people get mad about normal things?! These parents are delusional and the schools enable them. If I was a principal and someone came to me with that complaint I’d be like “and? They celebrated their 21st with a drink? Do you hear yourself”
I was coming to say something similar. I lost my job and license for FAR less. Basically I posted a video to my PERSONAL social media that a random parent didn’t like and she lied to my admin. Then the school said it “made them look bad” even though no one from the school saw the video… so they got rid of me and filed a complaint against me with the BOE.
Does it apply to things previously posted before you worked there?
Is there an investigation done? What about if it’s something you posted years before being employed by the school?
I left full-time teaching in 2021 but when I was graduating from my masters program, they made us go through all of our social media and take down photos that could be considered bad like drinking photos or photos of us in like more revealing clothes. Including bikinis I had a friend actually who worked at the same school district that I am currently substituting for and she was told to take down bikini photos. I’ve always been a pretty private person despite having a UA-cam channel but yeah, I think it’s ridiculous. One of the few reasons why I’m leaving the education industry.
The college fund story was very upsetting. My uncle drained the college funds for me, my siblings, and most of my cousins so that he could take his family of 8 on vacation every year and buy a ranch. We didn't catch it for 10 years and by then it was too late. We sued him and he is now in prison, which doesn't make up for the fact that I now have student debt when I shouldn't have
“SomEhOw it got into the wrong hands!” No, the first person DEFINITELY gave the school the pictures himself. He 100% did it, especially with that update where he said “she’s nothing without me”, he purposely made sure she couldnt work and so she has to rely on him and if she were to leave, he would likely make sure her photos follow her everywhere. He just told on himself. He probably did tell his friends, but I doubt they caused her to lose her job, I think the actual OP is the one that did it and wants to act like the gossip-y friend is the one that did it.
agreed
Since this podcast started I’ve been listening to it on Spotify I’ve only just realised Holly is in fact a dog and not a newborn baby
LOLLLLLLLL this is killing me idk why
The first story makes me sad, we have so many new young women entering the work force who have taken some “sexually charged” photos & to think that could come back & bite them is so upsetting ESPECIALLY when on the other hand men send unwarranted d*ck pics all the time (sometimes to CHILDREN) & they still have their careers.
Both should be punished equally being a whore online no matter what gender should always bite you in the ass
Soo true! In the uk at least unsolicited d!ck pics are considered sh, whereas she was literally modelling underwear, how is that a firing offence?! It’s not playboy! What kind of partner deliberately ruins their so’s dream job? Insecure little man 😒 I bet she went to college racked up loads of student debt and now she might even be blacklisted because she used her physique to get by at one point in her life. Utterly messed up 😓
PREACH. Louder for the double standard lovers in the back
RIGHT ON THE MONEYYYYYY! 👏🏼👏🏼
For the Turkish proposal, what you’re describing is the söz (promise). Basically a proposal is done before hand where the groom asks the bride. And after the proposal, a söz is done where the groom’s family asks for the approval of the bride’s family. The Turkish coffee has salt in it like you said to see how the groom will react and so on. It is one of my favorite traditions that we have and it was really fun to see how others perceive it
Is it done like this in all families? It just feels extravagant and I am curious to know if it’s done often lol
My Turkish husband proposed to me in the car on our way to work one morning. 😂😂😂
@@dianash.6495 the söz is done in every family and usually the traditions are kept the same however the proposal could be done whichever way
@@dianash.6495 I am Turkish(F), now living abroad away from my family. I know that it is mostly done that way but I think the rings are tied(literally tied with a ribbon and then cut) on a different (engagement) event. Gold and money are given mostly during the wedding. But I personally don't like this tradition. My fiance will not ask my family for permission because I don't want him to. I am not an object after all, I made my own choice to marry him. I also won't be holding a Turkish wedding but only because I don't like weddings of any kind. A small get together and dinner is good for me. I feel like weddings cost more than what you receive from the guests anyways. It isn't worth the headache for me.
i’m confused she said it was Lebanese not turkish
story 5: my name is ALSO alejandra but i always tell people who cant say my name that if they can pronounce charcutrerie, they can at least try to pronounce mine. it isn't hard and i find most people don't even put effort in to try because of racism.
Exactly. If they can say Alexandra can't they figure out how to pronounce one letter? It's pure racism: you're not as important for them to figure out how to say your name. Well no, this is not your perfect opportunity to choose me a nickname. It is not the name's fault
@@alysonnataliavasquezsolano8066 but english doesn't actually have a j like in Spanish, or х in russian or ח in hebrew and ect. In russian we dont have H, so anything that has h, my grandma pronounce with Ch/j haha
Teachers are held to such high standards while getting crapped on by society it’s so disgusting. ThE FIEST guy was a major AH
Held to such high standards and in a lot of places don't make a liveable wage. It's wild
@@DepressiveCookie Right? You need to be held to a higher moral standard than politicians, Lawyers, Counselors, doctors, but we give them like 9 dollars an hour after the breakdown. YIKES.
"Put up, or shut up" would be the phrase I'd be throwing out, as well.
The guys name is SUE . 100% 😂 his parents were hippies and that old song a boy named sue" is totally what they named him
Krxstxl and her Uncle Sue. Brilliant.
It makes so much sense now that he’s mad at his parents 😂
Haha it’s an excellent song!! 😂👌👍🏻👍🏻
Aye I'm your 69th like 😊
the way my jaw DROPPED at the birthday present story, when he said "those are the only diamonds you¨re ever gonna get from me"
AND IT JUST KEPT GOING OH GOD
Man's said lets take public humiliation and make it birthday themed. 💀
No diamonds
No kitty 😂 guy played himself 💀
Story 1: he knew she didn’t tell anyone so it wouldn’t jeopardise her career. He told a friend that he knows works at the school and is a gossip. Even if it wasn’t intentional, it was incredibly stupid and self centred. The fact that he wanted to share it was more important to him than the ramifications for her speaks volumes.
For the teacher story , I had an experience in high school where one of the teachers had posted her engagement photos to her PRIVATE Facebook pages and a lot of the boys had a thing for her and found the photos. They were not revealing at all she looked stunning but because they were circulating around students she was forced to remove them 😢
Literally, what is the logic?? It's just perpetuating the idea of "girls need to cover up, so the boys can focus". Now it's, "you look good on your wedding day, this is a bad thing"💀
I would have quit, no way I would be ok with not sharing something so important. Schools need to put their priorities elsewhere like bullying than their business up in the teachers
@@taylorhardy3454 I completely agree, honestly it was bullying on the part of the students as they were essentially taking a way from her a special and private moment that is meant to be happy. She is happily married though, and an excellent teacher, so I guess there's some light at the end?
I have all of my social media super private for this reason.
As a Spanish speaking person, Alejandra, Ximena and Fernanda are perfectly normal (and beautiful) names, like Ashley or Jessica
Wayyyyy better than Ashley or Jessica 😂😂😂
@@Natasha_-_ As someone whose name is Jessica Ashley....I agree
Alejandra STRESSED about the interest rates and telling Morgan to pay those ones first is me. Paying interest on anything makes me sick.
With student loans it's ridiculous. They're basically punishing students for borrowing money when everyone knows full well that most students are the most broke people and the jobs they get out the gate are gonna be on the lower pay scale end as they're just starting. But they're so expensive. I'm in Canada and we can go on programs to help out with that but I don't know what there is for the states. It seems more rough though.
As a Turkish listener: Coffee test is a tradition that comes from arranged marriages. The groom's side of the family visits bride's family to ask for their blessing, which is an ongoing tradition to this day. But back in the day in case of it being arranged, if bride made the coffee sweet that meant she likes the groom and is interested. If she made it salty that meant she isn't interested, to let him and also her family know through the groom's reaction. Now, bride makes salty turkish coffee even if it's not an arranged marriage, so everyone has a laugh seeing how the groom reacts (some go waayy overbroad with it to the point i fear groom can get sick lol)
This is such a cute tradition 🥹
On the second one I think OP made it clear to her cousin that she was just serving. The cousin just sounds judgmental and hateful and wants control. Using the kids to get her way is too far!
She did explain that, and honestly it probably wouldn’t matter because she doesn’t want her to work their at all.
Tbh some of this stories to me are crazy as an european, for example the teacher one, I can’t believe how EASY it is to get fired in the States, here in Italy if something like that happened that school would be sued into oblivion lol
For real- i left the teaching field for many reasons, but one of them being that I don’t want to be judged for what i do off the clock. My personal life should not be scrutinized by my supervisors at work.
@@shannongulgren9132 if teachers were paid what they deserve MAYBE they could have outside of work rules. But underpaid AND In prison? HELL NO. it’s wrong!!!
Yes, that sentiment was really hard this epsiode... the teacher story, but also the stuff about student debt, I just sit here and--
@@shannongulgren9132 😊😊😊
Yeah, dutchie here. Especially the student and credit debt talks are CRAZY to me. Never heard people talk about going in debt for their wedding here....
I love the story of the boyfriend telling the brother to "sit down" 🤣
My parents named all of us 'Standard American Names' so we wouldn't have an issue with interviews. It HAS ALWAYS HELPED ME GET THE INTERVIEW.... I hate it has been this way but it is.
It’s sad, but it’s so common in immigrant families and communities because of the societal stigma here in America. So many people I know from immigrant families have their given names (and culture-based names) and then their “American”names. “My real name is X, but no one can pronounce it/spell it so you can call me Y.”
As a white woman with a different name. This is all 100% true. My name is Diamond and I got bullied all through school for it (being a stripper, etc). I’ve gone as far as to put a headshot and links to my linked in so that potential employers see me. It’s gone as far as since I marked “ caucasian” on a job application and my name is diamond, people have not hired me thinking it’s a “joke”. I’ve also had black friends change their ethnicity on resumes and said that the difference of interest is ASTOUNDING.
Oof! I’m half white with the first name Diamond. All but the two retail jobs I’ve had, the employer was a POC. At no point did I think my name had anything to do with it.
Also, I went by a nickname at work because customers kept asking, “So what is your REAL name? 😏”
Why do white woman need to announce themselves as white ? What does that have anything to do with your story ? You could have just talked about your name being diamond and kept it pushing.
Also, the fact that you tried extremely hard to PROVE your whiteness is telling. Girl, please check your privilege, and since you can understand somewhat about what POC go through in terms of their names on resumes, maybe use your whiteness to uplift POC. Try to be a part of removing the name discrimination and hiring people based on their work experience. Please stop announcing that you are white, nobody cares.
That's crazy because my name is diamond too, I'm mixed & I grew up in the hood around poc/black people who were all excepting of me and then during highschool I started going to a predominately white school and i got the stripper name comment often even by teachers and people who didn't know me thought my name was a joke too.
First of all: I love your podcast. I listen to you from Germany and probably because I study sociology I find your perspective on certain topics so interesting because it is so different from Europe. Especially when it comes to weddings, bachelorette parties and also topics like student debt or the healthcare system... have you ever thought about inviting a person who grew up in a European country and just talk about the different experiences and opinions on certain topics?
I would love that, or someone from America Latina
Yeeees! I’m from a post-Soviet country and also find it super interesting how the perspective could be different! Would love to see a person from Europe or Latin America on the episode ❤
Do you know any UA-camr she could invite that grew up in Europe? I would also love to hear the differences as an American.
Totally agree. As a person from Norway I feel like some of our opinions and experiences are different. Like people here leave their babies in the strollers outside to sleep year round. And I know we have different values but it’s interesting to hear another take on things. Also another things is suing people for stuff.? (Don’t know if it’s common but I do see a lot of comments on stories saying “sue them”) I remember when I was a kid I had a friend who’s mom was American, and we were playing hair salon and cut each other’s hair. She said she was going to sue us for my parents not watching us and me “damaging her hair” (even tho they were visiting us and where in the next room) also we were 5. We don’t talk anymore
I would love to watch that
As a teacher, they can’t fire you for past events. Stuff like that have gone to court, and the school has lost. If it has nothing to do with the learning abilities of the students, then they can’t give you consequences.
The diamond drill bit story sounds to me like the OP’s partner is insecure about his boundary he set. I don’t think he fully believes that the OP or their friends/family are accepting of him never marrying her. And to compensate for his complicated feelings, he projected them onto her as a “joke.”
The problem to me seems he’s so blinded by his own feelings that he didn’t realize he humiliated her.
Story 1: As someone who used to be a teacher, I always had a fear of being confident and sexy for this reason. I decided that wasn't the life I wanted for myself, it wasn't good for my mental health. I now own a small coffee shop in Wisconsin, where I can wear what I want. Do I still have to be careful about what I say? Of course. But i'm not worried about posting pictures of myself in a bikini or swearing in a personal social media post now. It sound like this modeling gig was a great way to make money to make it through college (She could have done worse things) and it's such a shame that educators aren't allowed to live life outside of school. I'm so glad I left teaching behind me. And I can still teach art to the public at my shop and not stress about if i'm "following the state guidelines".
Congrats. 🍾
What teachers do outside of school hours isn’t our concern unless it’s involves dating a student,
the way alejandra was helping with your student loans😭 everyone needs someone like her in their life, she's such a good friend lol
morgan, you just killed me OFF 😂
‘that things a ball of moosh’ in regards to OP’s 5 month old niece 😭💀
I love spending my Thursday with the GIRLS!!! I hope everyone has a great weekend!
"Gaslit by your teacher." I feel you. I had a teacher who refused to pronounce my name. I gave up on giving corrections 😭.
Story 1 : The fact that he made a aita post means he feels guilty about what he did, the fact that he says " oh but it wasn't me, my friend is a gossip" means he knows it's his fault and he just hopes someone will tell him 'honest mistake'. F--- off dude, you know what you did.
Not Morgan forgetting the word boyfriend 💀 what do you call a guy before he proposes 💀💀💀💀 y’all kill me I love it
LMAOOOO
She’s so used to saying partner
I think she was moreso wondering if there are specific words for that moment. Like a proposer & proposee
Morgan, I just wanted to say you make me feel a lot better by being transparent about your student loans. I am really sad and ashamed that I had to take some out, none of my friends understand how hard it is to not have that headstart (they all get it paid for). You make me feel like its okay because of your success
I second this ❤
i feel like the long responses, tangents, and long stories are the best part of this show!! don’t do us like that 😭😩🫶🏼
love you guys!!!!!
The comment about gender neutral names is so true. Me and my siblings all have gender neutral names (and racially ambiguous).
I also got a PhD to make it even more ambiguous. When people see Dr. and my identity-ambiguous name, it's just helpful. I get a lot more respect via email than I do in person (from the same people).
I absolutely love seeing Alejandra use ASL when spelling Ximena's name. It came out so naturally and smoothly ♡
1:09:30 as someone who did legally have hyphenated middle names, i would not recommend hyphenating your first names. Some online forms do not allow "special characters" and depending on the situation it could be a hassle.
When i started donating plasma, it took almost an hour for the employees to figure out how to put me into the system because they have legal regulations to follow and my double middle name threw a wrench in that system.
When i legally changed my last name after marriage, i took that opportunity to get rid of the hyphen as well.
My best friend works at a private catholic school. In her contract, she can get fired if they find out she is using birth control, had an abortion, or attended a gay wedding. :/
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
The way I would sue them to tears
Wtf? Birth control? As a dude even I know that some women use it for hormonal regulations and stuff with their period. Catholic schools are outrageously controlling. I live in AZ and there’s a school called Xavier and they will expel students for the same things
As someone with family that CONSTANTLY let's them down, you actually really get used to it and it's like "I could be mad or I could have family I see regularly" so you take the bad with the good and you move VERY far away.
the name pronunciation conversation was so relatable lmao- always said i would name my child something hopefully unique enough that they don't have to use their last initial to be identified in school but was easy enough for a substitute to pronounce. nothing like having to correct authority figures with crippling anxiety lmao. eventually, i just started responding to the names they called me.
It's true, my mom's last name is Garcia and because off that everytime she wants to see my family in the states she gets pulled out off line and treat her like a criminal. There were many more examples were things like this happened like job interviews. She didn't wish this for me and my sister and the fact we all have a skin collar didn't help our case. So my mom gave us our dads last name because it's a dutch last name. It's a pity because i think it's a beautiful last name. Love you guys so much ❤❤
Morgan saying she’s a good shoplifter yet she got arrested for it 😂😂😂
I cried when I went over my student debt too. I didn’t even finish college because I knew the debt would not be worth the money I would make once I graduated. I have cried and had panic attacks so many times when looking at/thinking about my student debt. I hope you become a millionaire from this podcast so you can pay it all off and maybe we will get some relief with the changes being made to student loans right now.
wishing for you to be free of that burden as soon as possible ❤️
Krxstxl is gonna get bullied horrifically.
Krxstxl is giving MySpace 😭
Omg this story is in this episode? I'm only on the second story 🤣
Story 1 - This is the type of man I’m scared of meeting. Whether he’s trying to cover truly malicious actions with needing to “vent” to his friends or he’s genuinely that clueless about what his actions could result in when he’s talking to a known gossip, he’s in the wrong and doesn’t seem to feel that bad about it. I honestly think he did it on purpose because it’s not at all uncommon for men to be deeply bothered by their partner’s sexual experiences/histories, while also expecting their partner to somehow magically be good at intimacy on pure instincts. On a different video that read this story, this grandpa (he mentioned his granddaughter for some reason or another in one of his many comments) said she was in the wrong and was abusing him financially. Which… you know 1. she isn’t, but 2. he put her in a position where she lost her source of income. That commenter was unhinged and basically made it all her fault.
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0:19 the blackened candle holder from that time it caught fire lmao
Holly is life!!! She’s utterly, unfailingly, adorable. I want to snuggle that puppy more than I want to breathe RN.
For the strip club story, I loved Alejandras take. It almost sounds as if the cousin has trauma from that industry and just hates it.
Regardless of what people say, it is a very dangerous business, and a lot of really messed up things happen. Assault, trafficking, etc.
Maybe the cousin used to work as a stripper and something awful happened? I mean, I know a lot of people who hate that industry because it's exploitative and misogynistic. It's not too far-fetched for her to just really hate that scene and people that are a part of it. I think if you do something taboo, you should be able to accept that not everyone is going to support you.
Damn that name story hurt my feelings just a bit lol as my name is Crystal. But I loved my mom’s reason for naming me that. But yeah the way OP’s sister is intending to spell it is crazy. Every time that girl tells someone her name when putting her information in she’ll have to explain it. It’ll be awkward and time consuming.
And for the Tennis story, no that guy got his Karma losing that game. He kept challenging and boasting.
But you don’t have the xs 🥹
My student loan debt is also bad and is starting to creep up on me while I finish school so I really appreciate how open you are about it. It’s sooo nice to know I’m not alone! ❤️
For the Turkish proposal story i wanna add and correct some things as a Turkish bride :D It is not usually the first proposal. It is more like grooms side of the family asking for approval and blessing of the brides family. And the coffee usually have salt in it so thats why they look to the groom. If he drink it without hesitation it shows the dedication of the groom. And they come with gifts to bride. Nowadays couples have proposal before this traditional ceremony and it is happrning after to connect families. Sorry if i sound confusing, english is not my first languange ❤
First story: I would have dumped him. He did not do it on accident. He did it on purpose.
I really appreciate how candid Morgan was about her debt. Not many people talk about it and it’s a serious issue.
Story 5: I have a boys name and I used to get confusing looks from professors and teachers. I love my name but getting weird looks or being called Taylor is really annoying.
Used to get Mr. Floyd (my maiden name) all the time and I never corrected anyone.
My name is Frances and I have been insecure about my name my entire life, the way my heart dropped when you said you liked that name 😊
I absolutely love the name Frances/Francis! The nickname Frankie is so cute to me.
The story about the baby names, can only make me think about the country song “a boy named sue” which is a song about how hard it is growing up being a man with a woman’s name, whose dad gave it to him to “harden” or “toughen” him up.
I agree, Alejandra, that second story is SOOOOO LOOOOONG HOOOOOLY!!!!! The whole time, I was like, “GET TO THE POINT ALREADY!!!!!” (Def catching ME on a bad day 🙈)
Morgan admitting to extensive shoplifting is life. 😂
Offshoot to lebanese proposal comment:
My fiance is Moroccan and Im mexican and our engagement ceremony was SO BEAUTIFUL. I felt like a queen😭 I got a huge moroccan engagement party, henna, gifts of gold and our family was all present. I never imagined that would be my kind of proposal.
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Honestly Morgan, I’d donate to help w those student loans 😩 my jaw DROPPED when I heard that balance and now I’m stressing over the number of YOUR debt 😩🤣🤣
alejandra's face when the guy made the diamonds ''joke'' at 1:30:59. what a poem hahaha love you guys.
The op in the college fund story has ever right to sue them, they stole a great deal of funds meant for her and her alone. If I was her I would take every legal option I could get and every precaution talking to my family
1:09:47 Alejandra is signing the name with her hand!!!! lol I loved seeing that.
YOU CAUGHT THAT! hehehe
Thursday is truly the best day of the week. Thank you for always delivering the best! 💗
The cousin in the second story does seem triggered. I'm wondering if she had a friend that worked at that maybe got sucked into the lifestyle, and she was there to watch her spiral.
Story 1: wtf. told a known busy body gossip and got th gf fired. Totally the AH. I don't believe that innocent act, at all.
Story 2: what the actual hell? Girl. Keep waiting tables, go back to school. SAVE MONEY! Zero debt is THE best feeling! Save money. Build yourself the life you've always dreamed of. Hopefully your husband will have a sister who fills that void. The chosen family is better than blood! All day every day.
Morgan, this is your sign to pay off your student debt when you can.
Cousin in the second story is a judgy “Christian”
A friend of mine works in law enforcement and a colleague of hers who is a police officer is a fitness model. She did share photos of her (on her private Instagram) lifting weights in sport bra and shorts, and then some photos of her in lingerie. But the lingerie photos wasn’t sexy ones it was just her standing showing off her muscles. Then it got to the attention of some colleague that told the boss and she got in trouble for it (luckily not fired). At the same time several police officers at the same work place that are male and unlike her have an open profile and states their job in the description have similar accounts for fitness and bodybuilding… 🙄
Story 5- I understand the discrimination with names and jobs. My name is Shareice and people perceive that as a “black” name and I have had a really hard time getting jobs when my friends with “white” names will apply the same time as me and get the job immediately. It’s shitty
Alejandra’s charity of the week is Morgan’s Student Loans lmao 😂
I love Thursdays because I look forward to the new THT episode! Not sure if this is a better suggestion for THT or FKS (or if it’s already been done) but I would love an episode on Toxic Work environments. A toxic work environment is something many of us has experienced and I would love to hear your stories and advice
The last story: the thing is even if she was the one pushing for no marriage it'd be f**ked up for him to randomly make a show of a statement that is basically "remember I'm never going to marry you." That's not just weird, it's going out of your way to make a spectacle of humiliating your partner. He made her the butt of the "joke" at her own birthday party, surrounded by her friends & family. By doing what he did he also made the whole thing about him rather than about her at her own celebration. She needs to leave him, this is not going to get better.
Story 2: nah her cousin was just being straight up judgmental and masking it as caring. Idc what type of experience she had with strip clubs. OP was suddenly JOBLESS and bills dont just stop. When you're in a situation like that where u need to make choices or you'll lose everything.... it isn't easy. That requires understanding and empathy. But cousin continued to push her negative feelings about strip clubs onto OP and make her feel guilty or less than. She straight up was like "yeah ur not gonna bring your work life into my kids lives" assuming the worst about OP and judging her even WHEN OP SAID SHE WOULD NEVER COMBINE WORK/PERSONAL LIFE??? Sure, cousin could actually care. BUT the way she's talking to OP about it doesn't show any care. Just "this bad. I don't like it. U bad. Me cut u off from daughters". If she cared that much, then maybe she could help hook OP w a more "acceptable" job in cousins eyes.
I had a friend who I thought cared about me and I could trust, but she just kept pushing her judgmental opinions onto my choices. Listening to this story's vibes matched my ex-friends judgmental vibes.
Story 1: Dude was bragging, his friends reacted in a way he didn't like (tried to shame him) and then the photos 'somehow' made its way to the school.
She told this man that the photos would jeopardise her career.
He definitely has something to do with this, more than what he is letting on anyway.
First story: The school is the AH. She did nothing wrong. The pictures are a part of her previous career and not something that happened during her career as a teacher. This is giving misogyny
Turning my notifications on cause UA-cam didn’t notify me of this one when I opened the app like it usually does since I watch weekly. I only knew cause of your insta!
Alejandra: "are you crying"
I AM CRYING FOR YOU
One of my favorite teachers ever had a second job as a bartender and wasn’t supposed to mention it on campus so I can definitely believe the first story is tru. My issue is, if these photos were from prior modeling work and were already public domain then they should have found them in the background check. They can’t fault her now for their failure to look at the beginning of it mattered to them
This was such a great episode! I related to Alejandra so much on this one! First with the names, I also have a Spanish name that is hard to pronounce. And secondly with the butterflies! I thought my fear of butterflies was just me being weird. I've never heard another person say that they are afraid of butterflies lol
😂 my bestie says he was bitten by a butterfly as a child and absolutely hates them still! It's so funny to see a manly man run and scream when he sees butterflies 😂 I'm not a fan of ANY insects so I understand.
I love insects, but butterflies are just as dirty as flies; They love animal droppings just as much. 👍 I wonder what makes people afraid of certain things, besides a traumatic experience. I have a strong aversion to velvet. I don't want it in the same room as me, and I sure as hell will not touch it. Have no clue where it came from!
Side story: I was 'attacked' by a butterfly as a kid. It came out of nowhere, startled me, and I fell off the steps and cut my eyebrow open.
@@battlestar6364 I didn't know they could bite 💀
@@RealBradMiller I call them flying worms but dirty flies works too 🤣
Just a random interesting fact, If I remember correctly Nicole Kidman has a fear of butterflies as well
A few things on the teacher one:
- the pics were both bikini pics and nudes so I am guessing the issue was more the nudes…
- the writer said that she did this prior so she isn’t currently posing so I would be asking if they can punish her for a past job?
I love all your regular guests, but I think Alejandra might be my favorite! She seems like a good person and a good friend!
this is sooo sweet!! Thank you!!
Easily my favourite the least stupid of her guests and she has some really interesting views even when she pronounces a lot wrong she is entertaining and not afraid to say I made a mistake
As a teacher, there’s a huge need to be very careful about what you post. My students can find ANYTHING if I’ve posted it. Before I applied to the district I got a job in I double checked every form of social media I’ve ever had. Was that bikini pic too much? The picture my friend posted of me in a crop top too risqué? All gone. The expectations we hold teachers to are extremely unfair and too much considering what we’re paid. I do think the district I teach in would have a major issue with those photos if there was a chance the kids or parents could find it.
I missed Alejandra! Glad she’s back 💖
Two first names club! Having people understand that my first name is Maria Mikaela and I have a completely separate middle name will be my lifelong battle lol. Love the show Morgan Ashley! :)
I LOVE alejandra! My favorite episodes shes so smart and provides the most meaningful and intelligent feed back!!! And you guys are hilarious together
As a teacher it's directly in our school board policy, which I have to agree to when I sign my contract, that what we do outside of school is still impacting our job. Especially if we are "representing the school" by wearing anything school related or at any school related events. There's a huge list of "unprofessional behavior" that can lead to disciplinary action.
I don't agree with the decision in the first story. I think the OP should have been fine and her modeling in the past shouldn't be held against her at all, but sadly I'm not surprised. It sounds like she knew it would get her in trouble as well, which is why she stopped and tried to hide it.
That is insane that you have to sign that!! 😮
@@TwoHotTakes I think there's a line with this stuff. I WANT companies to be able to hold people responsible for inappropriate behavior even if it's outside of work time. But to me that type of behavior would be racist or homophobic rants or violence etc .... But other people will have different views on what people should be held responsible for, so where do we draw the line? At least for my contract the lines are pretty clear so we know when we're doing something that could come back to bite us... even though I disagree with some of them.
It's a hard one...
I agree that the timeframe should have been discussed in which those photos were taken. If they were taken awhile ago, well before her career as a teacher, it should NOT be a reason for termination!
Love these podcasts! They help me get through a LONG work day! ❤
Also I used to work for a mortgage bank and you’re completely right about the student loan debt with bankruptcy.
Ridiculous.
This is the first time I’ve watched, I usually listen on Spotify. Mind BLOWN.. ur telling me this is what they’ve looked like the ENTIRE time??
Omg when you went over your student loan debt you got me stressed out 😂