Story 1: The amount of times she felt the need to say 'I know it's annoying' tells me he's constantly telling her that. It's not annoying. It's not even that hard, but boyfriend has succeeded in making her think it's her fault. What a red flag...
As someone who's very particular about a lot of food and drink related stuff, trust me it's not just the boyfriend. It's everyone. The only way you're allowed to be weird about your food without everyone around you deciding you're an unbearable asshole is if you constantly reassure them, by twisting yourself into a pretzel, that you yourself do in fact understand you're being an irrational weirdo.
Shayne from smosh said this on one of his episodes for story 3: "By lying by ommission you're saying that the person you're lying to can't accept or handle the truth, and that's not your decision."
I hope she gets over that if she's ever gonna have a kid of her own cause 6 year Olds cannot be bitches they're literally just emulating the adults they see lol
My thing is. She's not wrong for wanting her coffee the way she Wants it, but if he's insisting On making his girlfriend's coffee. Take the time to know it. And that's the part she's upset about. They've been together three and a half years and he hasn't bothered to know her coffee but then is insisting on making it
For story too I can't imagine feeling entitled enough to want someone to change their entire wedding for me like? Why do people all of a sudden? Think other people's wedding days are about them.
I think “coffee boyfriend” is just a coffee snob who thinks if he can get gf to drink his “better” coffee she will give in. It’s control and him feeling superior.
What tf was he thinking? As someone who enjoys the occasional cup of instant French vanilla cappuccino, I *hate* legitimate, machine made coffee. It’s bitter, it’s strong, it makes you poop, and the caffeine doesn’t work on me because I have severe ADHD. Sometimes you just prefer the instant stuff that’s full of sugar and preservatives. It’s like if your partner saw you eating shredded cheddar cheese out of the bag, so they go out and get you a nice expensive hunk of blue cheese thinking you’ll love it even more because its “real cheese” or whatever. It’s. Not. The. Same. 😂
I get the vibe he doesn’t approve of instant coffee - it’s like man it’s just what i like. For example i like the Walmart brand flavor powder packets you add to water. It’s an off brand version of like crystal light or whatever. It’s sweet, caffeinated, and i drink tons of water with it. My ex HATED this. It’s such a weird hill to die on and i think it just means he literally doesn’t approve of what she’s consuming for whatever reason and i think it’s indicative of how he feels about her lol.
I think instant coffee is blasphemous but if someone likes instant I just think O.K. more good coffee for me. No skin off my back now I don't have to make more good coffee that shits tedious.
Story 6 Update: "I’m not really sure if anyone asked for one, but I left. I went to my friends place and I’m divorcing him. The comments helped me open my eyes to so many more things. I’m pregnant, and I will have the baby, but I won’t have it around him. Idk what I’ll do but I’ll do it away from him."
Oh my gosh. I'm so happy about this update. The amount of fear in my heart when I heard that story. It was just a first step in a very abusive relationship. I hope op has a long, happy, and safe life with her sweet baby. Stay strong and do not let him back in.
YES , the resolution we so desperately wanted and needed. If the woman decides to still have the baby, maybe she can coparent and hopefully he’ll eventually change and become a better man and maybe they’ll get back together or something like that.
Yes! I'm ADHD w sensory processing disorder and I'm extremely specific about a lot of foods and drinks. My partner either learns how to make them the way I like (which is really sweet and appreciated) or just lets me make them! The boyfriend seems so weirdly controlling about something so small.
Ditto. Funnily enough, I make my coffee the same way as OP. The instant coffee is helpful for my executive dysfunction, setting up the dripper is just a hassle. Need boiling water for heat, but don't want to make the base taste watery, plus I gulp drinks like my life depends on it, so the 50% color oat milk is good both for flavor and temperature. The mug has to be a specific shape, and the wall thickness is also important for me. It's partially a sensory thing, but I'm also super clumsy, and thicker walls make me spill so much easier. Also, my coffee mug set is glass, so I can see my progress, because... object permanence? Never heard of her 😅 If I don't see my coffee at every stage , I WILL forget it exist, and leave it wherever the fuck I put it down when I abandoned one task for another. Then I'll have moldy coffee, because I not only forget about it, but if I do see a mug somewhere, I know I have to take care of it, but my PDA profile says 'I think the fuck not', and I will angrily ignore it for days until I can't take my self hatred about not being able to handle simple tasks anymore and I begrudgingly take the mug to the kitchen. Syroup flavor is optional.
My mom was trying to make breakfast for me on Christmas morning, and I politely told her that while I did appreciate the gesture, the way she had done my waffles was all wrong 😭 The texture was so different I didn’t end up eating them. Luckily she apologized and said she’ll just leave me to make my waffles, since she knows how “picky” I am. She actually doesn’t like calling me a “picky eater” because of my ADHD and Autism
@@maggiedk I'm like this with sensory stuff but its the bed with my partner. I need to make sure there is no random fuzz, hair or whatever on the bed because I will feel it touching me all night and can't relax.
… am I insane? The mistress is just as much at fault as the husband. Went out of her way to be nasty to the wife and was even eager to kick her out? What does OP owe her???
There was an update to this story on Reddit! Apparently the best friend was the mistress to her husband. She was the reason his first marriage ended. So she sympathized with the mistress. OP decided to not be friends anymore. Smart move I think.
Story 3 is so tough. The gf really doesn’t have a right to get upset as it’s OPs body and decision. HOWEVER, if my husband went off with a friend and took revealing pictures and hid it from me I’d be pretty pissed. Because hiding it immediately takes away from the “artistic process” of it all and makes it shady. Sounds like an iffy relationship if having a conversation never came to mind.
Yes exactly this! If my partner came to me and was like "hey, my friend's doing a photography project and needs a model, it's for an art class" I'd be like yeah dude do your thing, it's your body and your decision. Or even if they told me afterwards I honestly wouldn't care. But if I found out about it without being told, waaaaay after the fact??? Absolutely not, I would find it so strange and disrespectful that I was just kept out of the loop.
I don't think it is the kind of thing you need to ask your partners permission for, however the fact that it didn't come up in casual conversation any of the times they were hanging out before, during, and after is wild. Also, gf is definitely not okay for saying that he needs to hide his body since they are in a relationship. Sounds very much like men telling women they can't wear something cause they 'need to respect his image'.
Bf can and should make his own decisions about his body. He sounds really into the art world and maybe a little resentful his gf doesn't get it. I sense maybe he didn't tell her because he knew this would be his reaction. All in all should have still told her as like a "heads up". If she was uncomfortable she could have met the photographer and gotten a vibe. Maybe going to the photoshoot would have been a bit extra but all in all I respect his decision to do it... not his decision to keep it from his partner. That said I sense they argued a few times about art. I say this as a designer dating someone in IT. Sometimes i see graffiti as "A TESTIMENT OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT ON DISPLAY IN PUBLIC AND AN INDICATION OF SOCIAL COMMENTARY" and he's like ".... but why?" .... I admit I am extra sometimes.
1:22:50 For me, the mistress is a clown at the zoo and I would let her learn the hard way, the “when are you gonna kick her out” got me. That told me that she’s not a victim in this, as she’s not just being lied to. She’s actively against the woman too. She wants her to lose her husband AND home. She wants her to get kicked out by this man-let her face that music baby.
Yeah no 😂 morgan is saying she's evil but girl no 😅 I would let her live in her delusion til I take everything back and not give access to this cheater the things he claims is his and what his mistress believes is a flex from her "man" 😅 then maybe i'll reach out and go, yeah the house and the boat? They're mine so jokes on you 🤷🏻♀️ enjoy this broke lying cheater of a man mwah
RIGHT she deserves to believe she's going to get all this stuff and be with a rich dude then have all her hopes and dreams crushed the way she was actively trying to crush the wife
For the last story you should have read more of the comments because it gives you an insight as to why the best friend acted/said that. Basically the best friend was a mistress before being with her now husband and she never told op about it.
Personally, I would not be warning the mistress of anything- when she is sitting in my home, knowing that she was with a married man, planning on getting me kicked out so she can move her ass in as soon as possible…. 😅
Yeah! It’s much better to watch it all fall apart. She’s going to realize it eventually and it could just seem petty for the wife to say. Like no… you got in the middle of a marriage. The fallout is between them. Let him string her along into oblivion for all I care lol
Hearing the cave story got me laughing when Morgan said "one little earthquake could bring it down." Like, lol one little earthquake could bring most wedding venues down
As annoying as it would be, kinda sounds like they needed two ceremonies and/or parties to satisfy everybody. Otherwise, have your wedding and send people pictures. 🤷♀️
story 3- he should have told her. even if it was innocent it’s still weird to not tell your girlfriend about something your doing as a “hey this is cool! i want to tell my girlfriend”. especially since he’s so passionate about it at the end. he should have asked or told her. since he didn’t, it could have felt like he was keeping a secret from her.
Yes to me it’s kinda like a party guy. He can be loyal and doesn’t mean it’s wrong. But I wouldn’t want a party boyfriend. So if he wants to do that then that’s fine but we aren’t a match. But if he hides that from me then he’s taking away my choice. Even if it’s not something wrong. Doesn’t have to be wrong. It’s someone’s choices. And you should let them have their choice. Worst case she could’ve went with him to the shoot. Just so she could see the art process and if she was still very uncomfortable with it. At least she had the choice. Like I feel you can do whatever you want. I do feel you should consider your partners feelings. But if something is more important to you and your morals. Then you at least have to let them know so they can have a choice and not feel tricked or trapped in a lie of a relationship. Hiding it can make something so innocent be a heart breaking moment. Edit: just realized she ended up basically saying the same thing I said lol.
can i just say that chris is such a good guest!!! he’s so emotionally mature and truly gives the best insight and advice for all these stories. he understands how nuanced people and their situations are so he gives actual good advice that can be followed through on. please have him back!
Former college nude art model here! You AWAYS tell your partner and communicate the process as much as possible. The amounts of times I saw my “nudes” at gallery shows was quite frequent. They will find out or find it. Yes, my partners were uncomfortable either way, but understood it was art at the end of the day.
What a great response!!!!^^^^^ I did lots of nude modeling in my early 20's, and not only did it help relieve my partners anxieties to fully disclose and inform the process, but it actually made them kind of excited for me at the idea of doing something creative, and they LOVED the art people would take/make/create! It ended up being a really nice bonding experience, and one partner even found themselves getting into life/portrait style photography as a result. I would do some modeling for them sometimes just for funzies, and it was so enjoyable and sweet. They were especially slay at outdoor photography, we used to do dressed up themed shoots in various beautiful nature spots, little renaissance shoots, elf shoots, some tasteful nudes, so much fun (even when it was cold! lol) We loved making a little adventure of it each time. Like you said, communicate! Even if they don't love it, they can more comfortably support and trust you in your endeavors, esp if you're passionate about modeling. And you never know, you might accidentally find a new couples hobby in the process
Story 7 is so obvious, I'm surprised you 2 didn't get it. Pretty sure there was an update you missed in there. The "best friend" was also a mistress at one point and got that guy to leave his wife. She has that in common with OP's husband's mistress. That's why she got so pressed when OP said she wasn't going to say anything. Also OP has no obligation to tell her husband's mistress anything. Why do her that favor after she had the audacity to go after a married man? fk that.
@@lidiat4881 The update is titled "I had a showdown with my former best friend UPDATE from I think my ”husband’s” mistress thinks he is richer than he actually is. My best friend thinks I am a dou*he because I am keeping silent" I did it. I had a showdown with my former best friend via text and I confronted her about her nonexistent support when I went to her with my woes. I told her that she concentrated on the wrong issue. She should have been my shoulder to cry in. She should have shown up with wine, ice cream and a shovel but instead, she called me a bigger dou*he than my husband. She tried to gaslight me and I realized that she’s always been a good gaslighter so I interrupted her before she made me out to be the villain. I asked her bluntly, was (her husband’s name) married when you started sleeping together? You told us that he was married before, we all knew that but we all were under the impression that he was married and divorced before you two met but was he still married? Is that why you related to the mistress and felt sympathy for her? Because you were her? She didn’t answer me until next day to call me a bitter and jealous b*tch. Wow! This was the last one on one interaction with her I have decided. She’s been my friend since preschool but now we need to go our separate ways not only to save us from future hurt but also to save our memories together from hurt. I talked to my husband too and asked him not to make the separation difficult and bitter that it ruins all the happiness we felt being together because we cannot think back on 1/3 of our lives with resentment. I asked him to take my dad’s offer (he offered to help him find a lease on an apartment and pay 1/2 years rent if he moved out without giving me problems. When I got home, he and his clothes were gone. He left an apology letter saying that he will always love me and never meant to hurt me. So I have finally been able to cry my eyes out and it felt so good. I have been crying since I got home. I lost two of my closest people but this is what happens when we hit hardships, we see people’s true faces. This is my update. I don’t know if anything major will happen to make more updates. It is time for me to move on.
Yup! I immediately knew something was up with the best friend for getting mad at OP for not protecting the mistress from her own bad choices. If he was abusive, that’d be one thing because even affair partners don’t deserve to deal with DV, but him having nothing that he claims to have is just going to be some karma for getting involved with a married man.
I get that but also as a mistress this is a lesson she needs to learn. They might not be technically married but like Morgan said common law marriage is a thing. With that being said why go after a married man? If they were gonna divorce anyways wait till the divorce is over then go for the crown but the fact that she did this thinking it was her ticket to the rich life is the lesson she needs to learn so no if I was in this situation I wouldn't tell her nor would I want my friend to tell because like I said this is her life lesson.
@@lidiat4881 Basically OP confronted her friend over text asking why she was on the side of the mistress. OP then asked if the friend's current husband was married when they were sleeping together. The friend got angry, said a few nasty things and cut off communication. OP's husband eventually moved out and OP said she's trying to move on.
One reason the OP in the last story should not say anything to the mistress nor let her friend is. While her husband is happy and distracted with his affair partner, they can have a less painful divorce. If he is furious with her for getting in his business and breaking up his relationship. He could turn every single thing that needs to be done into a drag out fight and that's not worth it. The mistress will find out on her own in time and hopefully she learns a lesson
There was an update on Reddit. The best friend started as the mistress in her own relationship. It caused her husband’s first marriage to end. So she was sympathetic to the mistress in OP’s story. OP decided to go NC and end that friendship
I already liked this guest but after he said that he was a gym daycare provider at one point in his life, it made me LOVE him. Since my daughter was born (she was my first), the daycare providers at the gym were truly what got me through the first few months & years of the new Mommyhood grind. And he sounds like such a sweetheart. We Moms appreciate the patience and kindness you display more than you may ever know. You deserve ALL the happiness!
I don't get why people hate Morgan calling out these age gaps. Yeah maybe you might be the 1 in a million where it works out but 99% of the time, the older person is usually taking advantage of the younger one and is only with them because people their age wouldn't put up with that. Some people say that it's like treating women like they're not adults but it's not even a thing about women. Older women can do it to younger men. Older men can do it to younger men. It doesn't matter. It's not even necessarily about the difference in age but the different stage of life they both would be at. A 10 year gap between 2 people in their early 20s and early 30s is very different from a 10 year gap between a couple in their 50s and 60s.
For ages, think of people psychosocial development or psychosexual development; no matter the circumstance (even for that rare 1%er) age gaps are detrimental for the younger person. So say, the estimated ages best to marry and start having children is between 19 and 40 as per the psychosocial standards but with age gaps one party will be finishing this age group while the other just starting. The younger person will be at their best age to start having children while the older person to stop meaning the younger one will likely rush through this stage and now their instincts and best desires don't match up. And it's not just for having children, the best age gap between oldest child and youngest parent should never be less than the 19 but the likely effect is it will be smaller meaning friction between child and parent with the expected butt load of concession for "parent" expected. And this is just one aspect of this. Marrying young or going through the stages young means poorer life outcomes aka the old bitter people hating on the young because they never resolved each stage before moving to the next with breathing space or even just worse health outcomes, lower educational attainments, less autonomy, more interpersonal conflict especially within the family etc. And, take it from a person who's grandmother married a 54 yo man at 14, these challenges are multi generational. Also my BIL's grandmother married a 50 yo man at 15 and to date it's all she brags about. She doesn't mention she was widowed at 25, her children were barely educated and she cannot give good relationship advice meaning she ruined all her son's marriages, is the very reason a lot of her grandchildren are struggling and is poor and neglected because she's constantly manipulating and ruining all her grandchildren's marriages l, education or just ambitions meaning everyone avoids her and every lady one of her sons is long dead. *Tl;Dr? There is no good in being unequally yoked. Marry someone like you or similar and age gap is not like you or similar.*
My husband was 55 and I was 38 when we got married. He was very active, healthy, etc. and the first 15 years were great. After that, he retired and started going downhill, mentally and physically. He was eventually diagnosed with Alzheimer’s dementia. He’s now 85 and I’m 69. I’m his full time care partner, and even though I take time to exercise and eat right I’m always stressed. I still love him, but if I knew then what I know now!!
I agree. It really depends on the reasons of people for being in such a relationship. My grandparents have the same age gap as mentioned in the story 6 and they are a great couple with like no issues really. My grandfather is absolutely in love with my grandmother and the base of their relationship was just the liking towards each other I am convinced. He always waits at the door when he knows she is coming up to the flat they live in and always says he could not live without her. Having said all that some people get into these relationships for despicable reasons you mentioned and it really shows in the cracks of the relationship. It's pretty creepy especially when the whole relationship is centered around the age gap and differences that are connected to age instead of being kindred souls. Edit: I think it's important in these relationships to make sure the older person is treating the younger right and as their equal with respect. Not condescending and stuff.
I was in a 4 year age gap relationship at 19. After experiencing that I fully understood the reason why people are so critical of age gap relationships. 4 years isn't even that crazy but I was taken advantage of for over being in a relationship for and not knowing what was normal.
I was so triggered for a moment because my (ab*sive) ex boyfriend is named Chris Olsen, even looks similar and a similar age now. Thankfully this one is way nicer, funnier, and gay lmao
oh no!!! What an awful jump scare. As someone who has bumped into my abus*ve ex out n about unexpectedly, I can understand and empathize with the flinch response! Hope you're doing okay since then!!!!!
Nudity isn't always sexual, but it is vulnerable and somewhat intimate. If you have a partner, I think your partner should be aware where, when, and with whom you're going to be nude. Not so much for permission, but understanding and agreement. If you can't be honest and respectful in a relationship, that relationship won't remain healthy for very long.
Her coffee isn’t even hard to make. My boyfriend has memorized most of my orders within the first year and half because I don’t change em. We’ve memorized whole recipes to cook. Her bf just doesn’t want to learn and is making her feel guilty when he can learn or just shut up and let her make it.
Story 7, how could you feel bad for the mistress for being lied to? She had an affair with a married man and was glad to kick the wife out of her home if it meant the mistress gets what she wants. Being a girls girl does not apply to women who actively participate in having an affair and do not feel remorse over it. The husband is scum and the mistress is no better.
Exactly. Let her face the natural consequences when it all comes to light lol. No need for the wife to say a thing, she will find out. And she’ll realize he started their affair on a foundation of lies. He clearly wasn’t serious about her in the first place knowing he’d have to cut it off to maintain his lies lol
Also, SHE IS 29! She isn’t a young college student who can easily be manipulated, she probably grew up watching all the tv shows with the cheating and drama that didn’t benefit anyone. No, if you are so stupid as to get with a semi-married man and not do your own research on his financial situation at an age where most people have become fully independent, then it’s not up to any other person to get you out of this, you aren’t trapped in anything, you are just dumb. And I say this as someone who still constantly asks my parents the dumbest questions when filling out forms, she’s too dumb to excuse.
Story 7: I kind of get why she didn’t want to tell the mistress bc 1. Why would the mistress believe her? 2. If the mistress knew about the wife then you definitely don’t owe her anything I’m all for the “girls girl” movement but this doesn’t mean you owe every woman you ever meet everything especially one who partook in abusing you essentially. I support her just washing her hands of all that mess & moving on with her life, starting over at 39 is hard enough as is let alone with everyone closest to you tearing you down. Fresh start is needed!
I saw an update on this story on another video and the best friend felt bad for the mistress because that’s how the best friend got her husband and op called her out on it
story 1: i’m a barista and have several regulars orders memorized. many of them are complicated, but when you have them order the same thing over and over it gets burned in your brain. i’ve been working there for 6 months. this man has been dating her for 3 and a half years
I love Chris on this episode! His tiktoks go through my feed but hearing him talk and his thought process makes me see how thoughtful and considerate of a person he is.
Exactly, lying by omission isn’t the answer. He doesn’t get to decide what isn’t a big deal, you should share things with your partner and if you consistently disagree just don’t be together.
The wedding ceremony is in the opening of the cave, so the sister wouldn’t even be inside of the cave during the actual wedding part. She could attend that and then go home. Never stepping foot into the cave.
I’ve done some nude modeling for an art class and though I was single at the time, it was such a great experience that I’d do it again if given a chance. I have been in a relationship for almost 4 months and I let my amazing gf know that I modeled, showed her the pictures and asked if my doing something like that would make her uncomfortable. She is super supportive of it and loved the pictures! Homeboy could’ve told her or even better asked her to come along to see how the process works! The other thing is his artist friend should’ve asked him if it was ok to submit those photos to the exhibit. I’m also a photographer and having back up for projects like that is important.
Why do people not like him? Just because you see him a lot? I really don’t get it. I like him and I think he has good takes 🤷♀️ he’s an entertainer you’re supposed to see him everywhere.
Story 7: Why should the op tell the mistress that the guy was broke, she knew he was married. Just an ah like the husband, they deserve each other. She will just leave when she finds out.
Agreeeee. i dont understand why anyone would think the mistress needed to be "warned" There will never be a time where i can be on the side of the side piece. (unless the side piece didnt know she was one) but thats not the case here
Story 3: I think there’s more to this than what OP is giving us. Morgan picked up on it a bit, but i think he’s lying about the relationship between him and the person taking the photos. Again, they probably spent a good amount of time taking the photos so how does this NOT come up in conversation about the day? The only reason why i think he didn’t mention it and thought it wouldn’t come up again is because he knew how she would react to hanging out with the friend, not necessarily the photos. Third: I wonder if she actually said “why would you expose your body like that to HER” speculating here, but that’s because I don’t trust OP.
That would make sense too. There are definitely some guys with loose boundaries that keep girl "friends" around and make the actual girlfriend uncomfortable
I’m going to politely disagree with the verdict on story 2. OP’s sister isn’t in the wrong for feeling bitter about not being able to come to the wedding, far from it. Where the sister became the AH was when she tried to guilt trip her sister into changing the venue for the whole wedding, which takes a TON of work from my understanding.
Yeah I think the sister is deffo valid in being bitter. I’m terrified of birds to the point I’ve only just been able to be within so many feet of them. If my brother had a wedding at a bird sanctuary I’d be pissed but you can’t change peoples minds. The wedding is there’s but I’d be hurt for sure
Sounds like Chris definitely felt the girls feeling were valid but exactly like you said she can't guilt trip the sister to changing the venue. The sister has a right to be pissed though but accept that it's the sisters choice. I like the line that the sister is right but must also accept the consequences of not including her sister to the wedding
Agree! I think that "you can do whatever you want at your own wedding" is technically true but I think it's kind of a dick move to knowingly pick a venue that will exclude a close family member from attending. It also depends on how close OP and her sister are, but it wouldn't be a dream wedding for me if I couldn't share it with people that are important to me. I feel like it's a little superficial to pick a location over someone you love. Like I said it's technically OP's prerogative to do what she wants, but if my own sister did that I would be pissed as well
No not "right to be pissed" i would accept dissapointed - she isnt priority in that scenario. Think about it, both bride and groom have special connect. to place/venue like that, how often you have opportunity to do anyth. so special and so much in their line (both exploreres w caves). If you have chance to do someth. so cool and special you should do it and your family should support you on this special day. Plus they say that place only allow for about 15ppl in act. ceremony, which would be recorded and zoomed for others. That means most of wider family wouldnt be inside too, which prob means they have another place for rest of them with dance floor and music, food - all of it. I doubt they just do 15mins ceremony in cave and then go home!? Hell they even say that its in cave ENTRANCE so if sister really wants to be there she can just stans 10-15m outside of said entrance with tablet - let them have this special place.@@sistafunk1
If you pee in your yard it starts to stink. Especially if you pee in the same spot everytime and don't get alot of rain. Also my boyfriend peed in our closet once when he was really drunk😂
Story 1: She is not annoying and what she wants isnt complicated. This sounds like the manipulation tactic to break her down. Definitely intentional. Story 2: I can't imagine making someone else's wedding about me. Story 3: 1) This is information that could've casualty been mentioned. 2) It is his body. 3) He did a goof not bringing it up not necessarily asking, but to let her know it is happening and be displayed. Story 4: NTA and I'm confused why she would want to date someone who DOESN'T WANT KIDS AND SHE IS HAVING ONE. So many people grew up in situations with step parents that dont want them it's horrifying. Story 5: Ew Story 6: Why did he have this desire to do this? It's time to leave, because this is abuse. My brain couldn't process the RAGE I'd feel after getting out and claiming down. I think I'd be in prison. Story 7: The fact that men who supposedly doesn't want you wants YOU to want them 🙄. Get OUT 😂 And OP is NOT responsible for 2 grown adults and their issues.
As far as the first coffee story goes, it sounds like the boyfriend is trying to “get her to like” or “show her” how he makes his coffee is better than how she makes hers and then gets angry when she 1 doesn’t like it or 2 doesn’t drink it because she knows she doesn’t like it. I’m a latte person, however, I enjoy French presses, matcha, drip, pour over, you name it and I can usually enjoy it for what it is. That’s how I AM with coffee. But I have friends who can only drink black coffee or tea. I would never make them one of my lattes and then get angry when they don’t like it. We are just different people with different tastes and that’s no big deal. It sounds like the boyfriend has some control issues and an overwhelming need to be “right”. If he just made her coffee how she likes it she would drink it. It’s very simple, he just seems like he’s trying to use weaponized incompetence in order to some how trick her into liking his coffee order so he can get “good boyfriend points” for making her coffee with zero effort to actually make her coffee she likes, and is getting mad that he’s not getting the results he wanted. If that were me I’d say “if you are going to start a fight everytime I make myself coffee we have to break up. I liked this coffee before you, during you, and will like it after you. Is this issue big enough for for you for us to end our relationship? I’m gonna go make my coffee while you decide” because if I had to defend my coffee order daily for the rest of my life I would actually go insane 🤣
Literally been waiting for the episode to drop today. Perfect timing because I’m about to donate plasma, so this is something to listen to while I’m stuck to a machine for an hour.
eh, i disagree with your take on the last story. she owes nothing to the mistress. while the husband is the one that owes the wife loyalty, the mistress is with someone she knows is taken and is insulting the wife. why would you want to help her out by warning her? this isn't some little naive girl in her early 20s, this is a nearly 30 year old woman who knows what she's doing.
hearing a man say "men are always at the root... of everything negative." healed a small part of my soul. i'm not saying this just because of that - but Chris's emotional intelligence is impressive. you don't see his kind of unbiased rational thinking often in men. his takes are so spot on, he could be a therapist if he wanted to. i bet he's the friend that his friends go to for advice.
Story 7: why are we feeling sympathy for the mistress? The mistress is aware that this man is in a relationship and lives with his significant other, then has the nerve to be in This woman’s space/house. This woman doesn’t owe that woman sh*t. She doesn’t have to involve the best friend if she doesn’t want to. Everyone else is the Ahole here. Very weird….
i relate so hard on making ur own coffee urself, because u find happiness in the process! exactly like u, guys, said - it's one of those little achievements that make ur day ☺️
This reminds me of the case where a woman killed her boyfriend after he suffocated inside a suitcase and she got drunk and recorded the entire interaction and you could hear him begging and screaming to be let out. I have no doubt that man is dangerous and she needs to get as far away as humanly possible
story 4: idk why but the girl saying it's 'not worth mentioning' that she's 6 months pregnant, I instantly thought 'oh she must not be keeping it'. Just trying to give the woman some grace, perhaps she's a surrogate or giving the baby up for adoption? If not, then OP should run
I thought that too, but I feel like if she was putting it up for adoption or was a surrogate, she would’ve said something like “hey when we meet you’ll notice I’m pregnant, it’s not mine/I’m not keeping it, etc”
Story #3: my only opinion on that story is coming from an advice I was given early on before dating, "don't do good things that look bad and don't do bad things that look good" there will be consequences either way
Regarding the cave wedding: as someone who has diagnosed phobias, I would NEVER tell someone to change THEIR wedding to accommodate my mental health issues… come on. Talk to your therapist about this, don’t pin it on your sister. Work on some therapy treatments leading up, maybe you could get to a point of being able to attend for a short period of time. This one really bugged me.
So would I, but that’s up to the bride to decide what’s important to them. But I don’t believe that she is “required” to plan a wedding that makes everyone else comfortable. If it was a high priority to this bride to have her sister present, that’s one thing. But she’s not demanding that her sister be at her wedding (ie. Belittling her phobia), she even is willing to make accommodation to record the wedding so her sister can view it. But she’s not willing to change venues… and that’s her choice. For her sister to demand that she alter her wedding to accommodate her phobia is incredibly out of left field to me.
I agree. The only way I would think this would be an asshole situation was if she couldn't physically go in the cave due to an actual medical condition that can't be changed or fixed.
With story 3, I find it really icky and hurtful that the OP said that his GF was “just a maths major” and wouldn’t get the art. That just feels so condescending and patronising, yuck
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If the mistress chose to get involved with a married man, she should know he would lie about everything. It is not the wife's job to warn the mistress.
Story 2: getting married in a cave is a hikers dream! I wouldn't let anyone stand in my way about that. As someone who recently got engaged and I have almost nobody in my life. It would be hard to even get up to 15 people lol. A couple family members is all I need and honestly it would be even better if it were just us. 😅 Everyone "needing" to see you get married is so weird to me. Like just be happy for me and we'll party after🤷🏼♀️
What an incredibly powerful story shared here, especially the moment when you finally opened up to your daughter about the truth. It takes a lot of courage to confront the past and seek healing, not just for yourself, but for your family as well. I'm really looking forward to seeing how you continue to navigate this journey. If possible, I’d love to hear more about your experiences in therapy and how that process has affected your relationship with your kids. Keep pushing forward!
Chris' story about the kid's club is terrifying lmao. I used to work in childcare and actual daycare centers in my state are very strict about ratios and there's different ratios for different ages (1 adult to 4 children for children 2 and under, 1/10 until first grade, 1/15 up to 13 and there's also requirements about how many children can be in one room), you're not allowed to be alone watching children until you have certain certifications, you have to be in a childcare registry, and a bunch of other stuff. I know it's probably different in other states but that's wild they would have 3mo old babies and 13 year olds in the same place with one person who isn't certified at all. But also I remember going to the kid's club as a child when my mom was working out and they definitely just had a million of us of all different ages shoved in there so who knows.
@@sammeyDay Definitely! That is just the legal maximum amount of kids per adult, a lot of places will have an extra assistant in there too instead of just 10 kids with one person.
Story 1: Acts of service often if not always ensures you do a thing how the receiver wants it. Coz if not, why even do it for them? Coffee making seems small in the bigger picture of things but it is the small things that need to be addressed before it adds up into a big resentment.
For story 3, the whole she has STEM brain and doesn’t get art is SOOO CONDESCENDING. It makes me wonder if he’s downplaying how revealing the pics are and the history with this friend.
Story 7: KARMA!!! The mistress deserves to find out it’s not his $$. She was one of the two people who were able to make decisions in the mess they created. Why does no one see cheating soooo bad?! You can catch and then pass diseases some even life long and threatening but yet not telling some gold digging man stealing woman that he doesn’t have the money she was chasing makes u worse of a person. Seems backwards to me. Girl knows there’s risks chasing that money. She just didn’t win this round, she’ll just move on to the next guy
I wish people would keep their mean comments to themselves if they don’t like the guest. Just move on. If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.
Oh poor you. I feel so bad for you having to hear opinions you don't agree with. How ever could you go on with all these opposing points of view? Why do you read comments on the Internet if your so easily triggered?
The photography OP has my eyes rolling hardddd. My partner is a professional oil painter and paints naked people on a weekly basis lol. His whole “it’s just art, man” thing has me cackling. Especially the fact that he was like “I didn’t even know it was for a show”… so like what did you think it was for? 😂 Regardless, yes, tell your partner when you’re going to be naked and alone with someone else. I know all of the times and locations when my partner will be painting someone. It’s consistent and in a professional studio/group setting most of the time. I trust him with it so much BECAUSE he’s open with it and never sketchy or nonchalant. He tells me. That’s literally all I need. He also works with professional models that do this for a living. It would be a little more uncomfortable for me if it was just a random friend of his. But again, if he was open and forward with it- fine! Go for it! It’s literally so simple not to be a sketch ball.
Story 3: I am finding it hard to believe that talking with his gf didn’t ever occur to him. Regardless of whether or not it was for art. Of you have respect for your partner, you have conversations with them about hard things. You don’t lie by omission then double down when you are caught. I want to know what he told his gf he was doing on the day he went out to the woods and had his friend take a series of naked photos of him…. To me it’s much more than a simple, “I see art differently than her STEM brain.” This feels to me like intentionally leaving out information that you know would hurt or upset your partner then gaslighting her when she eventually found out.
Chris was so incredibly sweet, insightful, and considerate during EVERY story, really loved him and I think you and he bounced off each other so naturally. Such great chemistry, and I hope to see him on here again! Would love to hear him with Spencwuah
Story 6 (where she got locked in closet by husband) has an update, she left him and is filing for divorce. Glad she seen how screwed up it was and is protecting herself and her baby.
I’m so disappointed to see that Chris doesn’t have a podcast! I could listen to him talk for hours, so thoughtful and insightful. Start a podcast Chris!
As someone on the spectrum it sounds like a spectrum thing to make and want something very exactly or else it's "wrong" I do it with tea. I have no idea why but I always have to stir the spoon both ways or else it doesn't "feel right" Nudity isn't inherently sexual but that dude sounds insufferable. "It's Art. You wouldn't get it." Sure, Jan.
I had the same thought. I've been spiralling the past few days because I'm worried I'm too "picky" with certain things for a neurotypical person. I'm worried my partner's gonna wake up one day and realize I'm a lot more work than he thinks and want to bail.
@@meghanhenderson8417 I feel like a good partner accepts you quirks and all, even if some times they seem "Odd" or "Particular" to an outside observer like as long as you're not harming anyone or being rude there's really no harm in being a bit fussy about certain things.
@@meghanhenderson8417 True. Trust is definitely hard, even I'm working on not so much trusting others but to trust myself in my ability to find people who I can be comfortable with. It's a definite set-back if we don't get it "right" but that's a reflection on the person who chose to betray our trust I think. Obviously unless the person is absolutely deranged, they're not gonna put all their red flags out in the open right away, we just have to watch out for them; it's a fine line between being aware and "beware". If that makes sense.
being in an abusive relationship when your a young teenager really really longterm fucks with you because you truly don't know any better and that'll forever be always be your foundation. and that shit is really fucking hard to unlearn to accept that kind of behavior.
Story 1: The amount of times she felt the need to say 'I know it's annoying' tells me he's constantly telling her that. It's not annoying. It's not even that hard, but boyfriend has succeeded in making her think it's her fault. What a red flag...
Seriously, if he really wanted to do it and her to be satisfied he would ask her to write out the directions of how to make her coffee
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Agree it’s not annoying at all he for sure tells her it is
Its like he only wants to make the coffee that he would like to drink and thinks she'd like his more for some reason?
As someone who's very particular about a lot of food and drink related stuff, trust me it's not just the boyfriend. It's everyone. The only way you're allowed to be weird about your food without everyone around you deciding you're an unbearable asshole is if you constantly reassure them, by twisting yourself into a pretzel, that you yourself do in fact understand you're being an irrational weirdo.
Shayne from smosh said this on one of his episodes for story 3: "By lying by ommission you're saying that the person you're lying to can't accept or handle the truth, and that's not your decision."
Do you remember which episode he Said it?
I concur! I had the same thought when I heard story 3 too. He did say that
Morgan calling a 6 year old a “little bitch” has me CACKLING 😭☠️☠️
she’s just like me fr 😭
@@amandaleighplans I was literally about to type this exact comment help
I hope she gets over that if she's ever gonna have a kid of her own cause 6 year Olds cannot be bitches they're literally just emulating the adults they see lol
For me, it was "secondhand cigarette dick." 😂😂😂
her coffee doesn’t even sound like it’s hard to make 😭😭
Not at all LOL
Yeah, instant? You can't muck that up 😂
My thing is. She's not wrong for wanting her coffee the way she Wants it, but if he's insisting On making his girlfriend's coffee. Take the time to know it. And that's the part she's upset about. They've been together three and a half years and he hasn't bothered to know her coffee but then is insisting on making it
For story too I can't imagine feeling entitled enough to want someone to change their entire wedding for me like? Why do people all of a sudden? Think other people's wedding days are about them.
It's not at all. Guarandamntee he thinks osme variety of, "this is sissy coffee."
Story 1: Morgan - "maybe its about control"
Me - "he's trying to poison her coffee!!!"
My exact same thought
Omg 😶
Not alone. I thought the same...especially with it being only about her coffee
wow I am not the only one
Yeah! I thought I was being paranoid, but why would he keep doing things that make it taste different??
I think “coffee boyfriend” is just a coffee snob who thinks if he can get gf to drink his “better” coffee she will give in. It’s control and him feeling superior.
Yeah,how hes acting has nothing to do with love languages. If his was acts of service he would have gotten it right
@@Zoe.Wash1Exactly! If he really truly wanted to make her happy by making her coffee, he would do it correctly.
What tf was he thinking? As someone who enjoys the occasional cup of instant French vanilla cappuccino, I *hate* legitimate, machine made coffee. It’s bitter, it’s strong, it makes you poop, and the caffeine doesn’t work on me because I have severe ADHD. Sometimes you just prefer the instant stuff that’s full of sugar and preservatives.
It’s like if your partner saw you eating shredded cheddar cheese out of the bag, so they go out and get you a nice expensive hunk of blue cheese thinking you’ll love it even more because its “real cheese” or whatever. It’s. Not. The. Same. 😂
I get the vibe he doesn’t approve of instant coffee - it’s like man it’s just what i like. For example i like the Walmart brand flavor powder packets you add to water. It’s an off brand version of like crystal light or whatever. It’s sweet, caffeinated, and i drink tons of water with it. My ex HATED this. It’s such a weird hill to die on and i think it just means he literally doesn’t approve of what she’s consuming for whatever reason and i think it’s indicative of how he feels about her lol.
I think instant coffee is blasphemous but if someone likes instant I just think O.K. more good coffee for me. No skin off my back now I don't have to make more good coffee that shits tedious.
Story 6 Update:
"I’m not really sure if anyone asked for one, but I left. I went to my friends place and I’m divorcing him. The comments helped me open my eyes to so many more things. I’m pregnant, and I will have the baby, but I won’t have it around him. Idk what I’ll do but I’ll do it away from him."
Oh my gosh. I'm so happy about this update. The amount of fear in my heart when I heard that story. It was just a first step in a very abusive relationship. I hope op has a long, happy, and safe life with her sweet baby. Stay strong and do not let him back in.
Thank you for this. I'm so glad she left him, she definitely wasn't safe there.
Thank goodness! I was so scared for her! I really wish her and the baby nothing but the best!
thank god for posting this
He did this while she was pregnant?! WTF
UPDATE!!! The girl with the husband who locked her in a closet left him and is having a divorce, she left to a friends house
YES , the resolution we so desperately wanted and needed. If the woman decides to still have the baby, maybe she can coparent and hopefully he’ll eventually change and become a better man and maybe they’ll get back together or something like that.
Did I miss here or have they been together for nine years meaning she was 15 and he was 24 if my math is correct and I heard correctly
@@kora824I think Morgan was saying they had a 9 year age difference not that that was how long they were together. But I could also be wrong 😅
YES! THANK GOD!
Thank god, all I could think of was an interview when Renee Rapp answered a question “leave him, Quickly. With a SWIFTNESS. Get the fuck out!”
i’m autistic and i’m the exact same way with my coffee. i explained this to my bf, and he just lets me make it. the bf is being ridiculous
Yes! I'm ADHD w sensory processing disorder and I'm extremely specific about a lot of foods and drinks. My partner either learns how to make them the way I like (which is really sweet and appreciated) or just lets me make them! The boyfriend seems so weirdly controlling about something so small.
Ditto. Funnily enough, I make my coffee the same way as OP.
The instant coffee is helpful for my executive dysfunction, setting up the dripper is just a hassle.
Need boiling water for heat, but don't want to make the base taste watery, plus I gulp drinks like my life depends on it, so the 50% color oat milk is good both for flavor and temperature.
The mug has to be a specific shape, and the wall thickness is also important for me. It's partially a sensory thing, but I'm also super clumsy, and thicker walls make me spill so much easier.
Also, my coffee mug set is glass, so I can see my progress, because... object permanence? Never heard of her 😅 If I don't see my coffee at every stage , I WILL forget it exist, and leave it wherever the fuck I put it down when I abandoned one task for another. Then I'll have moldy coffee, because I not only forget about it, but if I do see a mug somewhere, I know I have to take care of it, but my PDA profile says 'I think the fuck not', and I will angrily ignore it for days until I can't take my self hatred about not being able to handle simple tasks anymore and I begrudgingly take the mug to the kitchen.
Syroup flavor is optional.
My mom was trying to make breakfast for me on Christmas morning, and I politely told her that while I did appreciate the gesture, the way she had done my waffles was all wrong 😭 The texture was so different I didn’t end up eating them.
Luckily she apologized and said she’ll just leave me to make my waffles, since she knows how “picky” I am. She actually doesn’t like calling me a “picky eater” because of my ADHD and Autism
That's what I thought about, too!
@@maggiedk I'm like this with sensory stuff but its the bed with my partner. I need to make sure there is no random fuzz, hair or whatever on the bed because I will feel it touching me all night and can't relax.
… am I insane? The mistress is just as much at fault as the husband. Went out of her way to be nasty to the wife and was even eager to kick her out? What does OP owe her???
right?! why would she need to "warn" a mistress? like na.. both the husband and the mistress can go to the garbage bin together.
There was an update to this story on Reddit! Apparently the best friend was the mistress to her husband. She was the reason his first marriage ended. So she sympathized with the mistress. OP decided to not be friends anymore. Smart move I think.
@@cheserii7772 wow!!! Definitely a smart move omg
FR!! She doesnt owe her anything at all
@@cheserii7772 the "friend" deff gave mistress vibes. Imagine being amistress 🤣
Story 3 is so tough. The gf really doesn’t have a right to get upset as it’s OPs body and decision. HOWEVER, if my husband went off with a friend and took revealing pictures and hid it from me I’d be pretty pissed. Because hiding it immediately takes away from the “artistic process” of it all and makes it shady. Sounds like an iffy relationship if having a conversation never came to mind.
yes! i would be livid. like yes, his body and his choice but they are in a relationship and he can't make a decision for the both of them.
Yes exactly this! If my partner came to me and was like "hey, my friend's doing a photography project and needs a model, it's for an art class" I'd be like yeah dude do your thing, it's your body and your decision. Or even if they told me afterwards I honestly wouldn't care. But if I found out about it without being told, waaaaay after the fact??? Absolutely not, I would find it so strange and disrespectful that I was just kept out of the loop.
Im trying to give the girlfriend a little grace for her initial reaction because learning it the way she did probably made her very upset.
I don't think it is the kind of thing you need to ask your partners permission for, however the fact that it didn't come up in casual conversation any of the times they were hanging out before, during, and after is wild.
Also, gf is definitely not okay for saying that he needs to hide his body since they are in a relationship. Sounds very much like men telling women they can't wear something cause they 'need to respect his image'.
Bf can and should make his own decisions about his body. He sounds really into the art world and maybe a little resentful his gf doesn't get it. I sense maybe he didn't tell her because he knew this would be his reaction. All in all should have still told her as like a "heads up". If she was uncomfortable she could have met the photographer and gotten a vibe. Maybe going to the photoshoot would have been a bit extra but all in all I respect his decision to do it... not his decision to keep it from his partner. That said I sense they argued a few times about art. I say this as a designer dating someone in IT. Sometimes i see graffiti as "A TESTIMENT OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT ON DISPLAY IN PUBLIC AND AN INDICATION OF SOCIAL COMMENTARY" and he's like ".... but why?" .... I admit I am extra sometimes.
1:22:50 For me, the mistress is a clown at the zoo and I would let her learn the hard way, the “when are you gonna kick her out” got me. That told me that she’s not a victim in this, as she’s not just being lied to. She’s actively against the woman too. She wants her to lose her husband AND home. She wants her to get kicked out by this man-let her face that music baby.
Exactly. I'm not letting no one tell her shit! Let her find out the "fun" way lol
Yeah no 😂 morgan is saying she's evil but girl no 😅 I would let her live in her delusion til I take everything back and not give access to this cheater the things he claims is his and what his mistress believes is a flex from her "man" 😅 then maybe i'll reach out and go, yeah the house and the boat? They're mine so jokes on you 🤷🏻♀️ enjoy this broke lying cheater of a man mwah
Thiiiisssss 👏👏!!! If she was respectful, she could get a warning… but she wasn’t, so why treat her better than she treated the wife??? Crazy.
RIGHT she deserves to believe she's going to get all this stuff and be with a rich dude then have all her hopes and dreams crushed the way she was actively trying to crush the wife
For the last story you should have read more of the comments because it gives you an insight as to why the best friend acted/said that. Basically the best friend was a mistress before being with her now husband and she never told op about it.
omg! i was thinking wow the Best friend sounds like a mistress 😂 turns out.. she was lol
I figured with that comment she only said it because she had been in that position before.
Personally, I would not be warning the mistress of anything- when she is sitting in my home, knowing that she was with a married man, planning on getting me kicked out so she can move her ass in as soon as possible…. 😅
I would've put him on blast as soon as I heard "when are you kicking her out?" & laughed in the other woman's face.
No fr I was like ?? The mistress isn’t owed anything. Her problem, her fault
Yeah! It’s much better to watch it all fall apart. She’s going to realize it eventually and it could just seem petty for the wife to say. Like no… you got in the middle of a marriage. The fallout is between them. Let him string her along into oblivion for all I care lol
Yeah she just seems like an opportunist, so let her get the short end of a stick if she is playing dirty
I would absolutely have had to tell her, just to see the look on their faces, I can be petty like that.
Hearing the cave story got me laughing when Morgan said "one little earthquake could bring it down." Like, lol one little earthquake could bring most wedding venues down
As annoying as it would be, kinda sounds like they needed two ceremonies and/or parties to satisfy everybody. Otherwise, have your wedding and send people pictures. 🤷♀️
story 3- he should have told her. even if it was innocent it’s still weird to not tell your girlfriend about something your doing as a “hey this is cool! i want to tell my girlfriend”. especially since he’s so passionate about it at the end. he should have asked or told her. since he didn’t, it could have felt like he was keeping a secret from her.
Yes to me it’s kinda like a party guy. He can be loyal and doesn’t mean it’s wrong. But I wouldn’t want a party boyfriend. So if he wants to do that then that’s fine but we aren’t a match. But if he hides that from me then he’s taking away my choice. Even if it’s not something wrong. Doesn’t have to be wrong. It’s someone’s choices. And you should let them have their choice. Worst case she could’ve went with him to the shoot. Just so she could see the art process and if she was still very uncomfortable with it. At least she had the choice. Like I feel you can do whatever you want. I do feel you should consider your partners feelings. But if something is more important to you and your morals. Then you at least have to let them know so they can have a choice and not feel tricked or trapped in a lie of a relationship. Hiding it can make something so innocent be a heart breaking moment.
Edit: just realized she ended up basically saying the same thing I said lol.
Also it's just weird to keep it a secret with your friend imo
Yeah it shows a lack of boundaries and a complete disregard of his partner.🚩
can i just say that chris is such a good guest!!! he’s so emotionally mature and truly gives the best insight and advice for all these stories. he understands how nuanced people and their situations are so he gives actual good advice that can be followed through on. please have him back!
Former college nude art model here! You AWAYS tell your partner and communicate the process as much as possible. The amounts of times I saw my “nudes” at gallery shows was quite frequent. They will find out or find it. Yes, my partners were uncomfortable either way, but understood it was art at the end of the day.
What a great response!!!!^^^^^
I did lots of nude modeling in my early 20's, and not only did it help relieve my partners anxieties to fully disclose and inform the process, but it actually made them kind of excited for me at the idea of doing something creative, and they LOVED the art people would take/make/create! It ended up being a really nice bonding experience, and one partner even found themselves getting into life/portrait style photography as a result.
I would do some modeling for them sometimes just for funzies, and it was so enjoyable and sweet. They were especially slay at outdoor photography, we used to do dressed up themed shoots in various beautiful nature spots, little renaissance shoots, elf shoots, some tasteful nudes, so much fun (even when it was cold! lol) We loved making a little adventure of it each time.
Like you said, communicate!
Even if they don't love it, they can more comfortably support and trust you in your endeavors, esp if you're passionate about modeling. And you never know, you might accidentally find a new couples hobby in the process
Story 7 is so obvious, I'm surprised you 2 didn't get it. Pretty sure there was an update you missed in there. The "best friend" was also a mistress at one point and got that guy to leave his wife. She has that in common with OP's husband's mistress. That's why she got so pressed when OP said she wasn't going to say anything. Also OP has no obligation to tell her husband's mistress anything. Why do her that favor after she had the audacity to go after a married man? fk that.
Oh that's exactly what i thought, why she put on the mistress side, suspicious i said🤔
There's any other update?
@@lidiat4881 The update is titled "I had a showdown with my former best friend UPDATE from I think my ”husband’s” mistress thinks he is richer than he actually is. My best friend thinks I am a dou*he because I am keeping silent"
I did it. I had a showdown with my former best friend via text and I confronted her about her nonexistent support when I went to her with my woes. I told her that she concentrated on the wrong issue. She should have been my shoulder to cry in. She should have shown up with wine, ice cream and a shovel but instead, she called me a bigger dou*he than my husband. She tried to gaslight me and I realized that she’s always been a good gaslighter so I interrupted her before she made me out to be the villain. I asked her bluntly, was (her husband’s name) married when you started sleeping together? You told us that he was married before, we all knew that but we all were under the impression that he was married and divorced before you two met but was he still married? Is that why you related to the mistress and felt sympathy for her? Because you were her? She didn’t answer me until next day to call me a bitter and jealous b*tch. Wow!
This was the last one on one interaction with her I have decided. She’s been my friend since preschool but now we need to go our separate ways not only to save us from future hurt but also to save our memories together from hurt.
I talked to my husband too and asked him not to make the separation difficult and bitter that it ruins all the happiness we felt being together because we cannot think back on 1/3 of our lives with resentment. I asked him to take my dad’s offer (he offered to help him find a lease on an apartment and pay 1/2 years rent if he moved out without giving me problems. When I got home, he and his clothes were gone. He left an apology letter saying that he will always love me and never meant to hurt me.
So I have finally been able to cry my eyes out and it felt so good. I have been crying since I got home. I lost two of my closest people but this is what happens when we hit hardships, we see people’s true faces.
This is my update. I don’t know if anything major will happen to make more updates. It is time for me to move on.
Yup! I immediately knew something was up with the best friend for getting mad at OP for not protecting the mistress from her own bad choices. If he was abusive, that’d be one thing because even affair partners don’t deserve to deal with DV, but him having nothing that he claims to have is just going to be some karma for getting involved with a married man.
I get that but also as a mistress this is a lesson she needs to learn. They might not be technically married but like Morgan said common law marriage is a thing. With that being said why go after a married man? If they were gonna divorce anyways wait till the divorce is over then go for the crown but the fact that she did this thinking it was her ticket to the rich life is the lesson she needs to learn so no if I was in this situation I wouldn't tell her nor would I want my friend to tell because like I said this is her life lesson.
@@lidiat4881 Basically OP confronted her friend over text asking why she was on the side of the mistress. OP then asked if the friend's current husband was married when they were sleeping together. The friend got angry, said a few nasty things and cut off communication.
OP's husband eventually moved out and OP said she's trying to move on.
Chris stroking the earphone wire like a ponytail is KILLING MEEEE
13:25 How much do you want to bet Morgan stopped herself from singing "Into the thick of it" lol.
I sang it 😂❤
One reason the OP in the last story should not say anything to the mistress nor let her friend is. While her husband is happy and distracted with his affair partner, they can have a less painful divorce. If he is furious with her for getting in his business and breaking up his relationship. He could turn every single thing that needs to be done into a drag out fight and that's not worth it. The mistress will find out on her own in time and hopefully she learns a lesson
I thought the same but it appears they’re not legally married. So unless they have to divide any assets, OP can do whatever the hell they want.
There was an update on Reddit. The best friend started as the mistress in her own relationship. It caused her husband’s first marriage to end. So she was sympathetic to the mistress in OP’s story. OP decided to go NC and end that friendship
I loved the nuance this guest brought. Really leveling out Morgan's hot headedness 😅
I already liked this guest but after he said that he was a gym daycare provider at one point in his life, it made me LOVE him. Since my daughter was born (she was my first), the daycare providers at the gym were truly what got me through the first few months & years of the new Mommyhood grind. And he sounds like such a sweetheart. We Moms appreciate the patience and kindness you display more than you may ever know. You deserve ALL the happiness!
I don't get why people hate Morgan calling out these age gaps. Yeah maybe you might be the 1 in a million where it works out but 99% of the time, the older person is usually taking advantage of the younger one and is only with them because people their age wouldn't put up with that. Some people say that it's like treating women like they're not adults but it's not even a thing about women. Older women can do it to younger men. Older men can do it to younger men. It doesn't matter. It's not even necessarily about the difference in age but the different stage of life they both would be at. A 10 year gap between 2 people in their early 20s and early 30s is very different from a 10 year gap between a couple in their 50s and 60s.
For ages, think of people psychosocial development or psychosexual development; no matter the circumstance (even for that rare 1%er) age gaps are detrimental for the younger person. So say, the estimated ages best to marry and start having children is between 19 and 40 as per the psychosocial standards but with age gaps one party will be finishing this age group while the other just starting. The younger person will be at their best age to start having children while the older person to stop meaning the younger one will likely rush through this stage and now their instincts and best desires don't match up. And it's not just for having children, the best age gap between oldest child and youngest parent should never be less than the 19 but the likely effect is it will be smaller meaning friction between child and parent with the expected butt load of concession for "parent" expected. And this is just one aspect of this.
Marrying young or going through the stages young means poorer life outcomes aka the old bitter people hating on the young because they never resolved each stage before moving to the next with breathing space or even just worse health outcomes, lower educational attainments, less autonomy, more interpersonal conflict especially within the family etc.
And, take it from a person who's grandmother married a 54 yo man at 14, these challenges are multi generational. Also my BIL's grandmother married a 50 yo man at 15 and to date it's all she brags about. She doesn't mention she was widowed at 25, her children were barely educated and she cannot give good relationship advice meaning she ruined all her son's marriages, is the very reason a lot of her grandchildren are struggling and is poor and neglected because she's constantly manipulating and ruining all her grandchildren's marriages l, education or just ambitions meaning everyone avoids her and every lady one of her sons is long dead.
*Tl;Dr? There is no good in being unequally yoked. Marry someone like you or similar and age gap is not like you or similar.*
My husband was 55 and I was 38 when we got married. He was very active, healthy, etc. and the first 15 years were great. After that, he retired and started going downhill, mentally and physically. He was eventually diagnosed with Alzheimer’s dementia. He’s now 85 and I’m 69. I’m his full time care partner, and even though I take time to exercise and eat right I’m always stressed. I still love him, but if I knew then what I know now!!
I agree. It really depends on the reasons of people for being in such a relationship. My grandparents have the same age gap as mentioned in the story 6 and they are a great couple with like no issues really. My grandfather is absolutely in love with my grandmother and the base of their relationship was just the liking towards each other I am convinced. He always waits at the door when he knows she is coming up to the flat they live in and always says he could not live without her. Having said all that some people get into these relationships for despicable reasons you mentioned and it really shows in the cracks of the relationship. It's pretty creepy especially when the whole relationship is centered around the age gap and differences that are connected to age instead of being kindred souls.
Edit: I think it's important in these relationships to make sure the older person is treating the younger right and as their equal with respect. Not condescending and stuff.
age gaps are less of an issue between older people but with young couples (teens to 20s) it most definitely isn't "just numbers"
I was in a 4 year age gap relationship at 19. After experiencing that I fully understood the reason why people are so critical of age gap relationships. 4 years isn't even that crazy but I was taken advantage of for over being in a relationship for and not knowing what was normal.
I was so triggered for a moment because my (ab*sive) ex boyfriend is named Chris Olsen, even looks similar and a similar age now. Thankfully this one is way nicer, funnier, and gay lmao
oh no!!! What an awful jump scare. As someone who has bumped into my abus*ve ex out n about unexpectedly, I can understand and empathize with the flinch response! Hope you're doing okay since then!!!!!
Nudity isn't always sexual, but it is vulnerable and somewhat intimate. If you have a partner, I think your partner should be aware where, when, and with whom you're going to be nude. Not so much for permission, but understanding and agreement. If you can't be honest and respectful in a relationship, that relationship won't remain healthy for very long.
The claustrophobia one is so scary. Divorce him immediately. I’m sorry girl 💔
I think you’re confused the one who was claustrophobic was the sister not the bride she loves caves it’s a hobby her and the husband have
@@Mandy_221 I’m referring to story 6
@@hennadahlingoh my bad I hadn’t gotten to that point in the video yet
Her coffee isn’t even hard to make. My boyfriend has memorized most of my orders within the first year and half because I don’t change em. We’ve memorized whole recipes to cook. Her bf just doesn’t want to learn and is making her feel guilty when he can learn or just shut up and let her make it.
yeah, his argument is so stupid it's almost like he's trying to create a problem.
Story 7, how could you feel bad for the mistress for being lied to? She had an affair with a married man and was glad to kick the wife out of her home if it meant the mistress gets what she wants. Being a girls girl does not apply to women who actively participate in having an affair and do not feel remorse over it. The husband is scum and the mistress is no better.
Exactly. Let her face the natural consequences when it all comes to light lol. No need for the wife to say a thing, she will find out. And she’ll realize he started their affair on a foundation of lies. He clearly wasn’t serious about her in the first place knowing he’d have to cut it off to maintain his lies lol
Also, SHE IS 29! She isn’t a young college student who can easily be manipulated, she probably grew up watching all the tv shows with the cheating and drama that didn’t benefit anyone. No, if you are so stupid as to get with a semi-married man and not do your own research on his financial situation at an age where most people have become fully independent, then it’s not up to any other person to get you out of this, you aren’t trapped in anything, you are just dumb. And I say this as someone who still constantly asks my parents the dumbest questions when filling out forms, she’s too dumb to excuse.
Story 7: I kind of get why she didn’t want to tell the mistress bc 1. Why would the mistress believe her? 2. If the mistress knew about the wife then you definitely don’t owe her anything
I’m all for the “girls girl” movement but this doesn’t mean you owe every woman you ever meet everything especially one who partook in abusing you essentially. I support her just washing her hands of all that mess & moving on with her life, starting over at 39 is hard enough as is let alone with everyone closest to you tearing you down. Fresh start is needed!
I saw an update on this story on another video and the best friend felt bad for the mistress because that’s how the best friend got her husband and op called her out on it
@@lindsaymaemae7869 OOF!! Yeah she needs a new bestie asap!!
Not Chris playing with the headphones cord like it’s his hair 🤭 love this collab!!💖
What I see too lol
We need Chris as guest more often, love this ❤
story 1: i’m a barista and have several regulars orders memorized. many of them are complicated, but when you have them order the same thing over and over it gets burned in your brain. i’ve been working there for 6 months. this man has been dating her for 3 and a half years
For story 7, it gets disclosed that the best friend was ALSO a mistress with her now husband. Which after OP discovered they stopped being friends
When I tell you I gasped and yelled “stop stop” when I saw who it was I’m so excited!!!!!
Same! Immediate watch!!
I love Chris on this episode! His tiktoks go through my feed but hearing him talk and his thought process makes me see how thoughtful and considerate of a person he is.
Story 3, ITS WEIRD YOU POSED NAKED AND DIDNT TELL YOUR PARTNER 100%
Right “STEM” brained please what does that even mean? that was incredibly disrespect to his partner
Thank yoouuuu! Like we ALL know this dude would flip tf out if his girl did the same thing with a guy friend. So disrespectful to your partner.
Exactly, lying by omission isn’t the answer. He doesn’t get to decide what isn’t a big deal, you should share things with your partner and if you consistently disagree just don’t be together.
@@moony-_-. Yeah I also thought it was really condensing
my mind CAN'T PROCESS how people in the comments are defending him-
Chris is one of my favorite guests you have had on here! He is so sweet and mature in his responses. Please have him back again! :)
The wedding ceremony is in the opening of the cave, so the sister wouldn’t even be inside of the cave during the actual wedding part. She could attend that and then go home. Never stepping foot into the cave.
I’ve done some nude modeling for an art class and though I was single at the time, it was such a great experience that I’d do it again if given a chance. I have been in a relationship for almost 4 months and I let my amazing gf know that I modeled, showed her the pictures and asked if my doing something like that would make her uncomfortable. She is super supportive of it and loved the pictures! Homeboy could’ve told her or even better asked her to come along to see how the process works! The other thing is his artist friend should’ve asked him if it was ok to submit those photos to the exhibit. I’m also a photographer and having back up for projects like that is important.
Why do people not like him? Just because you see him a lot? I really don’t get it. I like him and I think he has good takes 🤷♀️ he’s an entertainer you’re supposed to see him everywhere.
Same! He was very genuine and calm!
I really thought he was annoying just bc people say he is. Turns out they were just wrong lol. He's actually pretty matured and has great opinions.
Story 7: Why should the op tell the mistress that the guy was broke, she knew he was married. Just an ah like the husband, they deserve each other. She will just leave when she finds out.
Agreeeee. i dont understand why anyone would think the mistress needed to be "warned" There will never be a time where i can be on the side of the side piece. (unless the side piece didnt know she was one) but thats not the case here
Story 3:
I think there’s more to this than what OP is giving us. Morgan picked up on it a bit, but i think he’s lying about the relationship between him and the person taking the photos. Again, they probably spent a good amount of time taking the photos so how does this NOT come up in conversation about the day? The only reason why i think he didn’t mention it and thought it wouldn’t come up again is because he knew how she would react to hanging out with the friend, not necessarily the photos.
Third: I wonder if she actually said “why would you expose your body like that to HER” speculating here, but that’s because I don’t trust OP.
That would make sense too. There are definitely some guys with loose boundaries that keep girl "friends" around and make the actual girlfriend uncomfortable
OMG MORGAN YOU ARE ON A ROLL WITH THE GUESTS!!!! Keep it up!!😁😁😁🥹
I’m going to politely disagree with the verdict on story 2. OP’s sister isn’t in the wrong for feeling bitter about not being able to come to the wedding, far from it. Where the sister became the AH was when she tried to guilt trip her sister into changing the venue for the whole wedding, which takes a TON of work from my understanding.
Yeah I think the sister is deffo valid in being bitter. I’m terrified of birds to the point I’ve only just been able to be within so many feet of them. If my brother had a wedding at a bird sanctuary I’d be pissed but you can’t change peoples minds. The wedding is there’s but I’d be hurt for sure
Sounds like Chris definitely felt the girls feeling were valid but exactly like you said she can't guilt trip the sister to changing the venue. The sister has a right to be pissed though but accept that it's the sisters choice. I like the line that the sister is right but must also accept the consequences of not including her sister to the wedding
Agree! I think that "you can do whatever you want at your own wedding" is technically true but I think it's kind of a dick move to knowingly pick a venue that will exclude a close family member from attending. It also depends on how close OP and her sister are, but it wouldn't be a dream wedding for me if I couldn't share it with people that are important to me. I feel like it's a little superficial to pick a location over someone you love. Like I said it's technically OP's prerogative to do what she wants, but if my own sister did that I would be pissed as well
No not "right to be pissed" i would accept dissapointed - she isnt priority in that scenario. Think about it, both bride and groom have special connect. to place/venue like that, how often you have opportunity to do anyth. so special and so much in their line (both exploreres w caves). If you have chance to do someth. so cool and special you should do it and your family should support you on this special day. Plus they say that place only allow for about 15ppl in act. ceremony, which would be recorded and zoomed for others. That means most of wider family wouldnt be inside too, which prob means they have another place for rest of them with dance floor and music, food - all of it. I doubt they just do 15mins ceremony in cave and then go home!? Hell they even say that its in cave ENTRANCE so if sister really wants to be there she can just stans 10-15m outside of said entrance with tablet - let them have this special place.@@sistafunk1
The actual ceremony is at the mouth of the cave. I don't know why she just wouldn't just leave after the ceremony.
If you pee in your yard it starts to stink. Especially if you pee in the same spot everytime and don't get alot of rain. Also my boyfriend peed in our closet once when he was really drunk😂
In your closet? 😭😭 now why would he do that, even while drunk? 😭😂
Story 1: She is not annoying and what she wants isnt complicated. This sounds like the manipulation tactic to break her down. Definitely intentional.
Story 2: I can't imagine making someone else's wedding about me.
Story 3: 1) This is information that could've casualty been mentioned. 2) It is his body. 3) He did a goof not bringing it up not necessarily asking, but to let her know it is happening and be displayed.
Story 4: NTA and I'm confused why she would want to date someone who DOESN'T WANT KIDS AND SHE IS HAVING ONE. So many people grew up in situations with step parents that dont want them it's horrifying.
Story 5: Ew
Story 6: Why did he have this desire to do this? It's time to leave, because this is abuse. My brain couldn't process the RAGE I'd feel after getting out and claiming down. I think I'd be in prison.
Story 7: The fact that men who supposedly doesn't want you wants YOU to want them 🙄. Get OUT 😂 And OP is NOT responsible for 2 grown adults and their issues.
As far as the first coffee story goes, it sounds like the boyfriend is trying to “get her to like” or “show her” how he makes his coffee is better than how she makes hers and then gets angry when she 1 doesn’t like it or 2 doesn’t drink it because she knows she doesn’t like it. I’m a latte person, however, I enjoy French presses, matcha, drip, pour over, you name it and I can usually enjoy it for what it is. That’s how I AM with coffee. But I have friends who can only drink black coffee or tea. I would never make them one of my lattes and then get angry when they don’t like it. We are just different people with different tastes and that’s no big deal. It sounds like the boyfriend has some control issues and an overwhelming need to be “right”. If he just made her coffee how she likes it she would drink it. It’s very simple, he just seems like he’s trying to use weaponized incompetence in order to some how trick her into liking his coffee order so he can get “good boyfriend points” for making her coffee with zero effort to actually make her coffee she likes, and is getting mad that he’s not getting the results he wanted. If that were me I’d say “if you are going to start a fight everytime I make myself coffee we have to break up. I liked this coffee before you, during you, and will like it after you. Is this issue big enough for for you for us to end our relationship? I’m gonna go make my coffee while you decide” because if I had to defend my coffee order daily for the rest of my life I would actually go insane 🤣
Thats what I was thinking! It reminds me of those reddit stories where the partner sneeks things into OPs food that they don't like.
I came from the audio version to comment, we need Chris as a recurring guest. He was made for this LOL ❤
Literally been waiting for the episode to drop today. Perfect timing because I’m about to donate plasma, so this is something to listen to while I’m stuck to a machine for an hour.
Omg please bring chris for more episodes, his takes are so balanced and real 💫
Story 3 - he can show his body off to whatever degree he wants, it’s his body not hers, but it’s weird he never mentioned it.
That's what I thought too, but the way he talked about her made he think he's an a-hole, lol.
eh, i disagree with your take on the last story. she owes nothing to the mistress. while the husband is the one that owes the wife loyalty, the mistress is with someone she knows is taken and is insulting the wife. why would you want to help her out by warning her? this isn't some little naive girl in her early 20s, this is a nearly 30 year old woman who knows what she's doing.
The second story, why wouldn’t you say “oh yea today I posed for Nancy’s photography class”. Why even not mention it? He was hiding it
Story 5: to add on, if rain doesn’t come to clean the pee away, that area will start to marinate. Disgusting
I hope Chris gets a chance to be on Broadway! I bet his stage presence is amazing!
I saw Chris Olsen and couldn’t tap quick enough!!!
hearing a man say "men are always at the root... of everything negative." healed a small part of my soul. i'm not saying this just because of that - but Chris's emotional intelligence is impressive. you don't see his kind of unbiased rational thinking often in men. his takes are so spot on, he could be a therapist if he wanted to. i bet he's the friend that his friends go to for advice.
Story 7: why are we feeling sympathy for the mistress? The mistress is aware that this man is in a relationship and lives with his significant other, then has the nerve to be in This woman’s space/house. This woman doesn’t owe that woman sh*t. She doesn’t have to involve the best friend if she doesn’t want to. Everyone else is the Ahole here. Very weird….
According to another comment about the update, she was a mistress too
SCREAMED when I got this notification!!! Collab we didn’t know we needed 🤩🤩
SAME!
First Shayne, now Chris???? So stoked!!!!
@@deltadaryl262 Morgan has really been feeding us good lately 😍
i relate so hard on making ur own coffee urself, because u find happiness in the process! exactly like u, guys, said - it's one of those little achievements that make ur day ☺️
This reminds me of the case where a woman killed her boyfriend after he suffocated inside a suitcase and she got drunk and recorded the entire interaction and you could hear him begging and screaming to be let out. I have no doubt that man is dangerous and she needs to get as far away as humanly possible
story 4: idk why but the girl saying it's 'not worth mentioning' that she's 6 months pregnant, I instantly thought 'oh she must not be keeping it'. Just trying to give the woman some grace, perhaps she's a surrogate or giving the baby up for adoption? If not, then OP should run
I thought the same
This was my exact thought I was like oh she’s probably a surrogate or something may not even be her baby guess we’ll never know bc he never asked
I thought that too, but I feel like if she was putting it up for adoption or was a surrogate, she would’ve said something like “hey when we meet you’ll notice I’m pregnant, it’s not mine/I’m not keeping it, etc”
Story #3: my only opinion on that story is coming from an advice I was given early on before dating, "don't do good things that look bad and don't do bad things that look good" there will be consequences either way
The way Chris uses the headphone wire as a strand of hair 🤣
Regarding the cave wedding: as someone who has diagnosed phobias, I would NEVER tell someone to change THEIR wedding to accommodate my mental health issues… come on. Talk to your therapist about this, don’t pin it on your sister. Work on some therapy treatments leading up, maybe you could get to a point of being able to attend for a short period of time. This one really bugged me.
I think it depends on the relationship and how close you are with your sister. Like I’d choose my sister over a venue in a heartbeat
So would I, but that’s up to the bride to decide what’s important to them. But I don’t believe that she is “required” to plan a wedding that makes everyone else comfortable. If it was a high priority to this bride to have her sister present, that’s one thing. But she’s not demanding that her sister be at her wedding (ie. Belittling her phobia), she even is willing to make accommodation to record the wedding so her sister can view it. But she’s not willing to change venues… and that’s her choice. For her sister to demand that she alter her wedding to accommodate her phobia is incredibly out of left field to me.
I agree. The only way I would think this would be an asshole situation was if she couldn't physically go in the cave due to an actual medical condition that can't be changed or fixed.
With story 3, I find it really icky and hurtful that the OP said that his GF was “just a maths major” and wouldn’t get the art. That just feels so condescending and patronising, yuck
As a stem major who also got into art school I would be offended.
Yeah. Sometimes, someone may not be an asshole for what they did but how they wrote it.
@@rumis.dollsss.15 just taking quotes you memorized from smosh lol
Story 6: Married at 24 with a 9 YEAR DIFFERENCE 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
My husband and I have a 9 year difference..married at 25. He's amazing ❤
Hi from Canada! Morgan, I love u so much and have loved seeing this channel grow!! ☺️ seeing you on Smosh was trippy asf. Anyway, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED LETS GOOOO
If the mistress chose to get involved with a married man, she should know he would lie about everything. It is not the wife's job to warn the mistress.
Story 2: getting married in a cave is a hikers dream! I wouldn't let anyone stand in my way about that. As someone who recently got engaged and I have almost nobody in my life. It would be hard to even get up to 15 people lol. A couple family members is all I need and honestly it would be even better if it were just us. 😅 Everyone "needing" to see you get married is so weird to me. Like just be happy for me and we'll party after🤷🏼♀️
What an incredibly powerful story shared here, especially the moment when you finally opened up to your daughter about the truth. It takes a lot of courage to confront the past and seek healing, not just for yourself, but for your family as well. I'm really looking forward to seeing how you continue to navigate this journey. If possible, I’d love to hear more about your experiences in therapy and how that process has affected your relationship with your kids. Keep pushing forward!
Chris' story about the kid's club is terrifying lmao. I used to work in childcare and actual daycare centers in my state are very strict about ratios and there's different ratios for different ages (1 adult to 4 children for children 2 and under, 1/10 until first grade, 1/15 up to 13 and there's also requirements about how many children can be in one room), you're not allowed to be alone watching children until you have certain certifications, you have to be in a childcare registry, and a bunch of other stuff. I know it's probably different in other states but that's wild they would have 3mo old babies and 13 year olds in the same place with one person who isn't certified at all. But also I remember going to the kid's club as a child when my mom was working out and they definitely just had a million of us of all different ages shoved in there so who knows.
Those ratios sound awful. 1 adult to 10 little hyper 3-5 yr olds. That's too many kids for one person.
@@sammeyDay Definitely! That is just the legal maximum amount of kids per adult, a lot of places will have an extra assistant in there too instead of just 10 kids with one person.
1:15:20 the quote "When a man marries his mistress he creates a vacancy" seems very fitting for this situation.
Story 1: Acts of service often if not always ensures you do a thing how the receiver wants it. Coz if not, why even do it for them? Coffee making seems small in the bigger picture of things but it is the small things that need to be addressed before it adds up into a big resentment.
For story 3, the whole she has STEM brain and doesn’t get art is SOOO CONDESCENDING. It makes me wonder if he’s downplaying how revealing the pics are and the history with this friend.
That made me mad too! What a horrible way to talk about her!
Story 7: KARMA!!! The mistress deserves to find out it’s not his $$. She was one of the two people who were able to make decisions in the mess they created. Why does no one see cheating soooo bad?! You can catch and then pass diseases some even life long and threatening but yet not telling some gold digging man stealing woman that he doesn’t have the money she was chasing makes u worse of a person. Seems backwards to me. Girl knows there’s risks chasing that money. She just didn’t win this round, she’ll just move on to the next guy
No idea who this guy is, but what an amazing guest! Loved the episode
i could still remember how to make her coffee by the time you finished the first story, OP's boyfriend has had YEARS
I wish people would keep their mean comments to themselves if they don’t like the guest. Just move on. If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.
I genuinely agree 💯
Oh poor you. I feel so bad for you having to hear opinions you don't agree with. How ever could you go on with all these opposing points of view? Why do you read comments on the Internet if your so easily triggered?
Really enjoyed this eps! Please bring Chris back! Loved hearing his insight and experiences.
chris is so sweet and charming i genuinely don’t understand why he gets so much hate. i’m loving this episode so far 💓💓💓
Right like the hate feels like it’s from no where
@@malaysiaharmon7208 yes! i feel like it’s one of those- you see them everywhere so much you don’t like them for no reason- type of things. so weird!
The photography OP has my eyes rolling hardddd. My partner is a professional oil painter and paints naked people on a weekly basis lol. His whole “it’s just art, man” thing has me cackling. Especially the fact that he was like “I didn’t even know it was for a show”… so like what did you think it was for? 😂 Regardless, yes, tell your partner when you’re going to be naked and alone with someone else. I know all of the times and locations when my partner will be painting someone. It’s consistent and in a professional studio/group setting most of the time. I trust him with it so much BECAUSE he’s open with it and never sketchy or nonchalant. He tells me. That’s literally all I need.
He also works with professional models that do this for a living. It would be a little more uncomfortable for me if it was just a random friend of his. But again, if he was open and forward with it- fine! Go for it! It’s literally so simple not to be a sketch ball.
My 2 favorites🥺🥰 thank you! There should be a part 2 of this duo!!!🥰
Aw. I love Chris. I’ve been with him for a long time. His sobriety is inspiring.
I died a tiny bit when Morgan didn’t realize he’s been to more shows than god herself, but she’s a busy lady how is she to know?! 💛
Story 3: I am finding it hard to believe that talking with his gf didn’t ever occur to him. Regardless of whether or not it was for art. Of you have respect for your partner, you have conversations with them about hard things. You don’t lie by omission then double down when you are caught. I want to know what he told his gf he was doing on the day he went out to the woods and had his friend take a series of naked photos of him…. To me it’s much more than a simple,
“I see art differently than her STEM brain.” This feels to me like intentionally leaving out information that you know would hurt or upset your partner then gaslighting her when she eventually found out.
Chris was so incredibly sweet, insightful, and considerate during EVERY story, really loved him and I think you and he bounced off each other so naturally. Such great chemistry, and I hope to see him on here again! Would love to hear him with Spencwuah
I genuinely really enjoyed his takes! I would absolutely love to have Chris on again!!
Story 6: it would still be abusive even if OP wasn't claustrophobic. 🤷🏻♀️ 15 minutes?!
As a former Starbucks barista her coffee isn’t even that hard. 3 years is long enough to learn.
Story 6 (where she got locked in closet by husband) has an update, she left him and is filing for divorce. Glad she seen how screwed up it was and is protecting herself and her baby.
Haven’t even watched yet and I am ecstatic Chris is a guest!!!! Ahhhh!!
I literally gasped when I saw Chris on the thumbnail, so excited to watch
Same!!!👏🏻👏🏻
I’m so disappointed to see that Chris doesn’t have a podcast! I could listen to him talk for hours, so thoughtful and insightful. Start a podcast Chris!
As someone on the spectrum it sounds like a spectrum thing to make and want something very exactly or else it's "wrong" I do it with tea. I have no idea why but I always have to stir the spoon both ways or else it doesn't "feel right"
Nudity isn't inherently sexual but that dude sounds insufferable. "It's Art. You wouldn't get it."
Sure, Jan.
I had the same thought. I've been spiralling the past few days because I'm worried I'm too "picky" with certain things for a neurotypical person. I'm worried my partner's gonna wake up one day and realize I'm a lot more work than he thinks and want to bail.
@@meghanhenderson8417 I feel like a good partner accepts you quirks and all, even if some times they seem "Odd" or "Particular" to an outside observer like as long as you're not harming anyone or being rude there's really no harm in being a bit fussy about certain things.
@@Resilient_Sage88 I feel like that too but my trauma doesn't allow me to trust very easily and I mean, do you ever really know someone 100%?
@@meghanhenderson8417 True. Trust is definitely hard, even I'm working on not so much trusting others but to trust myself in my ability to find people who I can be comfortable with. It's a definite set-back if we don't get it "right" but that's a reflection on the person who chose to betray our trust I think. Obviously unless the person is absolutely deranged, they're not gonna put all their red flags out in the open right away, we just have to watch out for them; it's a fine line between being aware and "beware". If that makes sense.
@@Resilient_Sage88 I'm seriously loving this conversation. Thank you for your time and point of view.
I love that Chris is stroking his headset wire like it’s his hair 😂
11:47
Chris: Im very specific about my coffee
Idk how he managed to not insert a Flight Fuel ad there
Story 1: i bet he's a coffee snob, her instant coffee isnt real coffee to him
being in an abusive relationship when your a young teenager really really longterm fucks with you because you truly don't know any better and that'll forever be always be your foundation. and that shit is really fucking hard to unlearn to accept that kind of behavior.