dont BS me ep3 - cam and valvesprings
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- on todays episode i install the cam and valvesprings
pac1218springs
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sloppy stage 2 camshaft
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vlave spring plate i am using (that i modified)
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Lmaooo 11:08 "Whatever you do, don't look at your cam bearings. If you look at them, they'll be bad. If you don't look at them, they'll be fine." That is the finest piece of automotive advice I've ever heard 😂🤣
cant beat Schrodinger's cam bearings !
I wish I saw this advice a few months ago. :P legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5623167&postcount=33
Aaron H. See, they were perfectly fine before.. now look at them :/
Ignore the fact when I looked at mine, they were not even there, forged cam shaft, onto straight pure aluminium alloy head.
Ouch.
What sucks for me is those heads where only a year old, same with the motor. I got about 20k miles before it started ticking.
thats nasty, someone probably left some shmoo in the oil galleries for it to starve and just start rubbing like its the end of the world..
only found out about mine when green fluid started to pour out of the exhaust, thinking "new gasket time" and it was a dirty crack instead... I suppose it was 400K+ on that head, something had to give..
When you ran all the bolts in with the impact I knew this was my kinda channel.
Taylor Ray my reaction as well
Hell yeah
Look at the channel name. Lol
🤣
stuff of legends at this point
after reading all this crap online about having to remove the oil pump and replace timing chain, balancer bolt, lifters, head gaskets, head bolts, pushrods and all the other gaskets I was starting to get overwhelmed and the parts list was like $700. Now that I've seen this and I already know you made 1000 hp doing shit like this I'm ordering a sloppy stage 2! lol thanks for the confidence.
Hey, did you ever end up doing this and did it work out for you?
@@Ugrasrava Yes I did, these are my results jankyshack.com/magic-metal-stick/
Timing chains are cheap, i always instal a new one for peace of mind but to each his own lok
I love your theory about not looking at the cam bearings, I have been a professional auto technician for twenty years and I agree with you 100 %
Schrodingers bearings
Sloppy Quantum camshaft mechanics
You mentioned that this is your second time showing this. I just want to say thank you. I just recently found your channel and I find it great! Full of info as I have never taken an LS apart.... loads of old SBC and I am learning a great deal..... again. Thank you.
+maddoxwca happy to help
I see you used the gm german torque Specs on all the fasteners......
......Gutten tite
i use the same torque reference table. however mine is goodentite hehe
What does he mean by this gm german torque specs?
@@toxic_campers6351 guuten tight
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is what I like to see, A wrencher sharing his knowledge... Like
I love this dude. No torque specs. Just tighten those suckers and keep going !
I miss this matt. But love the evolution the channel has gone through
My friend works like this. I'm always amazed at how fast he fixes stuff. He's like that squirrel from hoodwinked when he has coffee for the first time.
FYI: I never use compressed air when changing springs. The valves usually just stay in place. If they do slide down you can push them back up by rotating the engine and the piston will bring them up. Just something I've noticed and maybe it could save you some time. This is an awesome video for first timers, good work
I'm finally getting a 5.3 this week and seriously plan on mimicking this build I really appreciate what you do !!!!
I've watched this a good dozen times now. GREAT STUFF!!
I agree. Awesome info here and bless his heart for taking the time to share - interesting shit, but how many times did you watch this 43 minute vid?? At least change the playback speed to 1.5 and you won't miss a thing.
Not the whole thing lol just jumping around and watching certain parts a few times through.
BigKleib34 and then you followed up with one of the most bizarre cam swap videos on the interweb lol
BigKleib34 when u gonna finish your truck?
Can't believe how many corners you cut and get away with it, I am so jealous!
cmsracing you can definitely tell he is got some experience he has done it a few times and we all have learned from his videos when doin my build I would watch them a few times just to stay fresh on it
I love when you slip off the bolt and keep going like a boss
Thanks again Matt, for sharing your time, and talents.
GREAT tool for changing valve springs. A guy might suggest (if a feller’s planning on doing a few of these) mounting lengths of all-thread for each spring. Might speed up the process
"Ready ta' rock", i see what ya did there. Awesome valve spring job!
Since I was unforunate not to see other episodes of your doin a LS cam swap, thanks for going over it again!
Got to love this guy he said if you look at you cam bearings they will be bad if you don't look at them they're good😂😂😂😂😂😂💪💪💪👍👍
Matt I have a really important question for you I've been following you quite some time now never seen you talk about Rod bolts fastening stock Rod bolts?? My question is to you is it safe to torque down Factory Rod bolts down 55 foot pounds instead of 15 ft lb and then using a degree 85??
The valve stem seals were like... Get us out of here, we need a vacation ! (Arnie voice) 😂
you have seen my 1000whp bbq smoker grill right
No cam sauce, oh no!! 😄👍🏻
"Feast your eyes on this awesome shit" 😂👍🏻
+Shit box lol
Dowel rods are insurance that the lifter won't drop to the pan. They can still drop part way (to the upper machined part of the lifter body) if you get unlucky. I had two lifters drop when installing a cam in my C6 but was able to tap them back into the plastic lifter holder thingy with a long 3/8 extension in the cam bore.
Working in flip flops, MY DUDE! Hell yeah!
Schrödinger's cam bearings, as they are in a state of quantum superposition, are both good and bad so long as you do not observe them?
that one was a little over your head, its ok though, haha
Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.
the other guy who's comment he must have deleted lol
I figured that was the case. Still taking the opportunity for a guardians of the galaxy reference. :)
love the bargin bin parts install while wearing a shirt from a company with some of the most expensive parts in the import world😂😂
+Dave The Man fun fact owner of ams performance is a friend and sends me swag! He loves sloppy and I even did a motor swap for him
Sloppy Mechanics good shit! I got sloppy with one of the head guys from AMS at shift sector one time when a TB flange pushed out of one their Carbon plenum intake manifolds...plumbers tape, ace hardware bolts and some epoxy=237mph GTR
When he said " dont look at the cam bearing" I lost it. This is my kind of guy. Run shit in with an impact, to hell with assembly lube. Just send it
I remember watching your 240 sx video something simular happened, your awesome I love the entertaining and informative videos.
I didn't catch the 1st time you did this but I appreciate you sharing. Good luck with your endeavors.
Good call on the Milwaukee tools,I should have done that instead of buying all Dewalt again brand new screw gun just failed(trigger broke).That's a great price for new cam.
Late to the party but just doing research before I take the plunge on a swap and turbo, just wanted to say thanks for documenting all your work, love what I see so far.
Any reason, ignoring peace of mind of course, not to replace/upgrade pushrods and rockers while you're there switching out the springs other than just saving several hundred benjamins? Only just started bouncing around through your vids, not seen if you eventually replaced them or not tbh.
Think I spied the worn pushrod going back into the #7 slot also... *shrug*
Engine upside down= no cam roulette...
+michaelovitch yes that was my first video
If that's the first time you ever channged valve springs with air and a home made VS compressor too ya done a damn good job of course I am 53 and been literally doing this shit since I was old enough to hand my dad tools and man ya done a great job I make all my VS compressor tools to change em at the track or in the car or on the engine they sell shit anymore bud!! Riddle me this I am just getting into the LS engines and just bought a. 04 Yukon Denali w a 6.0 and got coming home and it runs between 20 and 30 pounds oil pressure and its like brand New anyways I bought an oil pressure switch but people have said that it would be fine and I have been watching you for a while cuz I know you know your shit on LS engines and I am a balls to the wall big block Chevy or big inch Chevy and MOPAR also do a lot of Ford and bought it to drive brother its in great shape but just done like that shit!! Thanks for any aevice in advance and if ya need any chassis shit or any BBC or any big inch sbc I can help ya with just holler
corvairman69@GMAIL.COM
I'm one of the unlucky guys who pulled My cam outta my 6.0 and looked @ My damn bearings.. Sure as shit they are roached... Wish this vid had come out 3 months ago Matt, now I gotta replace every bearing in the motor.. Molested cam bearing killed my rod & main bearing too.
Diggin the AMS Performance shirt, those guys are literally 20 minutes away from me, good people over there.
the shirt was a gift from the owner, i know him personally oddly enough he loves sloppy mechanics, i have done and engine swap for him, look up blues mobile videos, i did a 5.3/80e swap into a dodge monaco with the paint job and all
no shit, thats great. There is one of those in the area (unknown powertrain), if it's been your work this whole time I'm going to shit my pants lol
timing chain is fucked, you need to change the manifold bearings now, tighten to 3 ugga duggas then rotate 420 degrees, be fucking mint i tell ya
Look ItsRain dont forget about the exhaust manifold bearings lmao
Sweet valve tool. Cut a slot on the side of your valve spring tool so you can quickly just slide it off the stud and go onto the next one???
good idea but it might make it weaker, double springs are really tough to compress
torque wrench i don't need no stinking torque wrench LOL great work dude
Just like from the factory
I recently did the top end on my Toyota V6, watching how easy the LS motors are to work on makes me sad.
+elad sputnik yeah everyone is like how do you work so fast, and I'm like, do you not see how dead simple this motor is
I believe I've seen a video of yours with this in an non boosted dished piston 5.3. I don't plan on boost, not soon anyway with this 5.3. How does it perform with a naturally aspirated set up? I want performance and reliability as this S 10 blazer will be primarily a street truck. I enjoy all your videos, and appreciate you sharing. Your tested knowledge saves a whole bunch of people money. Real life testing.
Fuck the cam bearing intel learned, the best nugget bestowed upon us was this, "it's not a problem if you ignore it". Genius, thanks for effort as always mott.
Ahhh Russian roulette every step of the process. Can't go wrong ha ha
Matt I love how you lubed the cam these videos are ducking stellar man!!!! Keep it up and fuck the haters
i purchased some pac1218 valve springs recently off ebay...they arrived with two pac racing stickers and one side of the cut up box you show at the start of the video, all springs are there but loose in a generic bubble wrap mail bag. it worries me a bit!.
that bug that crawled into the engine at 30:21
extra 20 horsepower
lolol incredible observation
I think you put the worn parts to the rear of the head...
Extra lubrication
just giving them a good shuffle lol
'I'll just move the worn pushrods and rockers to the front for easy access'.....proceeds to move them to the back of the bus. Lol
that smell you get when you crack open a bolt that has that little bit of air that has been trapped in there for a decade or more. fucking makes me want to puke but i love it LOL. always sounds like a coke can opening.
Where was this guy 15 years ago. He just made working on ls series engines look like child's play. Time to get junkyard Jewel of my own and start hacking away at it. 😎😂😁
"Whatever you do don't look at your cam bearings" im gonna have that silk screened hip mom style in cursive on my bathroom wall
I'm amazed by the speed you can tear down an engine
i have done it a few times, and these engines are so goddamn simple
Sloppy Mechanics I'd love to flood the UK with these boosted 4.8's & 5.3's motors ! Seriously can you just go to a scrap yard and pick one up ?
Here in the US, absolutely! Most JY's are full of LS motors.
flbmxdad hook up a cousin from over the pond 😂
Sloppy is a Salaryman.. not paid by the hour, quicker he can get out, the quicker he can go home.
No lube on the new cam?
Lucas cantrell Thats what i was wondering about.
There wasn't any on the old one when he pulled it out. It's all good.
*wears a lobe off of the cam during break in* "Oops now i have bad con rod bearings and main bearings because there is a lobe worth of metal shavings in my bottom end."
IT is not a clean dry rebuilt engine.. there is arlready smoo in there.
@@F8LXEPSHN NOW THAT'S FUNNY!
Could you put a link to the cam in the discription?
yessir let me get on that
tossed in cam, springs and spring compressor tool
Sloppy Mechanics. where did you get cam from
The passenger side get fresh air. and oil when u do a oil chenge the other side is the PCV valve and thus the dirty air before it goes in to the intake. That's why one side is dirtier then the other. At least that's my theory
sounds good enough for me
clarification on the sloppy stage 2 camshaft listed above: that points to the Elgin E1839P, while the sloppy wiki page lists the Elgin E1840P as the sloppy stage 2, located at www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077K4R6VH/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
don't forget, you can't make 1000hp without a new timing chain
+Joe schmo lol
it looks like you didn't get that last rocker you tightened tight i hope you check it
if she rattles i will know lol, ill go over them a 2nd time since you pointed it out
42:38 Cyl 7 intake
Great video man. Gonna do heads and cam on my 17 camaro ss soon.
like your home made valve spring compressor. pretty sweet.
You put that pushrod in the back on the driver side lol
not following you?
The one with the wear.. You said you were putting it in the front,but I think I see flexplate..so it was the drivers rear. ~ 41:35
Walker is saying you installed the slightly worn pushrod on the #7 Intake, you also did not tighten that one either.
I been following for years, and I came here because I’m swapping my cam on my 6.0 and thought sloppy will show me what I should do with these cam bearings but apparently it’s better to not look..... to late
"you'll pop your valve out kid!"
~14 min, you could use an allen on a socket with a wobble or extension and your impact for speed if you are worried about the nut moving on the stud :)
This is the 3rd time I watched this. Love your videos dude !
Worthwhile to upgrade cam and springs now and add turbo later? Or do it all at the same time? Turbo is not in the budget ATM. Decent gains just from cam/springs?
correct, cam and springs always worth it, if you can afford it this cam works great NA and turbo, so its a no brainer if you have the money at the time to install it, in my opinion, much easier to install this stuff with the motor out
Sloppy Mechanics Cam/lifter spring wise its affordable. Any other cam recommendations?
man a nice dri-fit polo as a rag... I can't tell if this is too fancy or too sloppy.
+pandemoniummisfits cisco systems polo
when you heat up the balancer to slip it on can it damage the mechanical seal on the timing cover?
no, imagine how hot the engine, balancer, seal, and crank is all the time
@@SloppyMechanics at work I have a special bearing heater to slip bearings on, I was thinking of letting the balancer sit on that to get hot
Sure people do ovens
That compressor would drive me nuts!
I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE, AT MY SHOP I PUT THE COMPRESSOR IN THE BATH
ROOM, THIS WAY I DONT HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT BITCH ALL DAY LONG, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS MAKING SURE EVERYONE THAT GOES IN AND OUT OF THE BATHROOM IS TO MAKE SURE THEY CLOSE THE DOOR LOL
Yes definitely I had to subscribe I love the sloppy mechanics Channel you guys break it down make everything simple and also you guys work like how I work with Impact Guns for everything! I just bought a 2000 WS6 Trans Am very good condition out of Massachusetts I'm from Philadelphia Pennsylvania great guy I bought the car from and he recommend your channel sorry for the long story he said you guys do nothing but LS Motors and make lots of power so I am a fan for life💪 I know that you guys be busy but hopefully if I have a question or two or need help I can run to you guys
you ever have a problem melting the front crank seal when you heat the balancer, or does it not have to get all that hot?
+Ribbityibzki nope
Love the safety flip flops.
Thanks for posting links for places to find the stuff you use:)
Matt, I love what you do,but please take it from experience, wear a pair of real shoes! I once dropped an engine block on my bare foot and it didn't feel wonderful. Thank God I didn't lose any toes but stiches and crutches suck!
+Duster D I hear ya, I try to be careful it's hot out lol
I was hoping he was gonna drop something on the big toe because he's just wearing sandals 😂😂
that 4.8 is from a 03 up. because the oil pressure switch tells me that
Sorry. Just read the 20 comments uve already answered bout the balancer. Dam thats awesome!! Liked and subscribed..
will the torch burn the seal when heating up the balancer?
no, think about how hot the seal and pulley and block is when the coolant is 200 and oil temp is 250
@@SloppyMechanics I thought it was more like 400 or 500 lol but I was just cautiously curious
If one side is always cleaner than the other is that because of the way the egr system works?
+Mrzizzy69 because if the egr and crank case evap yes
I think it's because the gunk is forced down when 6 quarts of oil gets poured in at oil change
I know I asked this before. Never got a response. I am going to use this cam and spring set in my gen3 5.3. I'm not running turbos as of yet. Is this cam a decent one for just naturally aspirated? Can I just skip on the pushrods if they look ok?
Yes, NA, nitrous, blower, turbo, it works, yes stock pushrods
I had a couple pushrods worn the same as what you showed on my 5.3 in one cylinder and was wondering if that's caused from a lack of oil do to the lifter? If so wouldn't you want to change the lifter as well? I know this is sloppy mechanics so it will fly but my motor is torn down to the bare block and was wondering if that's something I should do while it's out, or can the simply be cleaned? Same with the rockers that match those pushrods should they be replaced or would they be fine?
LOL.. ELL GIN IS HOW ITS PRONOUNCED FROM THE CITY IN HELLINOIS WHERE THE COMPANY IS....SHIT HOLE SANCTUARY CITY..LIVED THERE FOR YEARS...GREAT VID
Im going to be doing this for my first time. Never even helped anyone do anything similar. Should i buy a torque wrench to save my ass til i get used to doing itM
A cheap HF torque wrench will get you close enough. I wouldn’t spend a lot on one. HF has been working great for me. I even used a friends expensive torque wrench to test a head I had torqued to see how close it was. Spot on.
Did you reuse the crank bolt Matt?
always
so the big chief PR guys shared this video on facebook lol
putting Keepers in with gloves on like a boss. great video man keep up the good work
its almost like i have done it before
Is the cam not "large" enough to necessitate checking pushrod length? Obviously what you've been doing works. Just a question of if and why.
Great vid. Thanks mate from Australia
Following. Thanks for doing what you do!
+chasinhail thanks for watching, thanks for commenting, thanks to united states
I don't plan on forced induction in the near future. I'm running 706 heads. Is this cam still a solid choice for just motor.? Should I change the springs and lap the valves,? Just over 100k 3rd gen truck motor
I have got to get me one of these fancy ls motors !
yeah this thing is really fancy and clean lol
Sloppy Mechanics lmao man some people just can't see that the rust and dirt just add character to it !
Is it bad to use the impact on the balance puller?
Leave the cover loose put the balancer on. Turn it a couple of times. So it locates itself. They crank it down
Wait doesn't the balancer melt the seal??
thought that too.....?????
+vpantuso nope the seal isnt a total piece of shit, and the balancer is not 600deg
Sloppy Mechanics Matt it's a great idea! I just assumed it would melt that shit? Who knew
think about how hot the motor gets while running, its designed to seal at 200-240deg temps for a longgg time, so heating the balancer to 200-300 is shrug worthy for it
I'm loving how you state the obvious and everyone is like oh ok I didn't know.....lmao nope you didn't think that's the problem
get extended warranty with those Milwaukee tools, it has paid it self in gold for me because the Chuck's and impact mechanisms inside mines failed me a couple times and the switch they gave me new improve replacement tools for some that were to expensive to fix
+Kareem Colebrooke can I buy it afterwards?
Sloppy Mechanics if it's not that old or recently bought yes but if it's already beat to shit then no
we had 2, 1/2 impacts the brush style ones burn up their holders and triggers, good thing it came with 5 year warranties when we bought them. it was worth it lol. my new Milwaukee Fuel Impact has been holding it's weight with the 9.0 battery's just chugs right along.
Wildkat9797 yea the brushless ones seems to hold up alot better but the Chuck's and triggers are the weak link the Phillips head screw inside the Chuck's has to be tightened up occasionally but they are great tools
I apologize I'm a noob to this stuff but dont you need to have the number 1 pistion on top dead center when replacing a cam?
with your recommended exhaust manifold are you able to keep the AC compressor and stock location?
+Lewis Fish correct
the cam on ebay that you have in the description is a 220/224 .575/.575, the one you recommend in your 2017 video on jegs is the 228/230 .585/.585 did you use a smaller one because its a 4.8? or because of the weight of the truck or something?
Could us please tell me what are using to put air in the cylinders besides a ir compressors and air hose
how the hell is this 3 years ago?!?!
IT SEEMS LIKE ONLY YESTERDAY I WAS IMPACTING IN BOLTS WITH WRECKLESS ABANDON WHILE INSTALLING A CAM DRY, WAIT THAT WAS A FEW DAYS AGO
@@SloppyMechanics have you ever had any issues come up because the rockers weren't done the "right" way. I want to just zap them on like you do but I'll be honest little shy about it. 😅
I just use a cordless drill to zip the bolt in and out on the stock tool. It's pretty quick
Is there no specific order to tighting the rocker arms? And if i just tighten them like you did will i still be fine? I will be doing my own cam swap on my own truck