Tip: if you dont have socket big enough to put seal in, place it making sure it is even on each side then put sprocket backwards and then use socket 21 and using hammer gently drive seal in by tapping on sprocket. comes in flash with a case and it will be even surface without damage to seal. grease on o-ring is not a bad idea either. Cheers!
Thanks for the video!! I just bought a 2008 KTM XC 300 yesterday and when I checked on it this morning, I saw a puddle of oil under it and went into full panic. Found the source of the leak then found your video. Panic gone, can't wait to fix it and get riding for the first time! Thanks again for this video!!!
Three things: If your chain is adjusted properly you should have enough slack to slide it off. As stated below always oil up the seals & O-ring or any parts for that matter. When pressing in parts you can put them in the freezer for a while. It's not necessary but it can help. E Money, great tip!!
Kyle; thanks for this video! I woke up this morning to a randomly leaking countershaft seal.. Got the oem seal and O-ring for $6 and fixed it with your video in under 10 minutes! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
The All Balls Racing countershaft seal kit comes with two different thickness o-rings. In the instructions they say the thicker o-ring is supposed to help prevent future leaks.
I done one on my CRF 450 two weeks ago and just used a wipe of motor oil on the seals and "O" rings just to stop them binding up, great vid keep them coming mate.
Just found this problem on my KTM. Thought it was going to be major surgery, but looks like something i can mess up all by myself :). Thanks Rocky Mountain from the land down-under.
Always love seeing well explained and neatly filmed tutorial videos. Got an idea for a video for you is an exhaust repacking video. Made a huge difference on my KTM for less then $5
I didn't have a tool to pull the seal but found a suggestion that worked. I drilled two very small holes in metal part of the seal. Then used a couple wood screws and screwed them in just a tiny bit until they grabbed the hole with the threads. Using a hammer and wood block was able to pry outward and pull the seal out. Not the most efficient but worked!
I would suggest just running a bit of oil or great inside the seal so you don't burn the lips off before it gets lube. Going to flush is also good because you have a good reference to make sure the seal is square in the bore
I used the same procedure on my son's KTM 50 SX mini and it worked great. I replaced the chain and front sprocket at the same time so it was very easy to access the seal area.
dont use a screw driver. just stick an 8mm wrench (that doesnt have a super sharp tip) under the seal. use a larger wrench to attach to the smaller wrench to get extra leverage. was very easy. oh u also have to put something behind the countershaft for leverage. something plastic throw a rag in there if you want some extra safety. I wouldve bought a seal puller ;) but none of the stores had one in my town and everyone looked at me funny like i was making the tool up. lol
I have an idea for a video that I know would probably help many others out besides myself. Do one on what boots you use/have used/your buddies use. There are so many different types/styles and I ride similar terrain and trails as you so your opinion would help. Thanks, great vids.
Dude, get black lightning or orange lightning latex gloves for working. They are the bomb, I use the orange ones because they are thicker. Good video btw.
Might be a dumb question but if I had a bad seal, would the sprocket have to be spinning in order to leak? I’ve whipped everything down and let the bike idle for a while and it’s dry as a whistle, do you think I’m good to go?
No, in my experience it will leak when sitting and riding if the seal is out. e.g. mine has been out for a while and leaks when sitting. Maybe in colder weather you could have a seal leak only when riding since the oil would be hotter.
I just bought all oem parts for this and the spacer sleeve does not have a machined cut out for the o ring. it is flat on both sides. is this right? or okay?
Does anyone know why my front sprocket has a seal on it? It's all mangled and attached to the sprocket! I'm confused. None of the other bikes have this in any of the videos.
Can some one hellp me when I push my bike wile Holding my gluch put then it get stuck and won't move but if I change gears then it will move and after a some steps it will get stuck again
+nick 450 No, in this case, chain wasn't too tight. I can see how that could be a factor though. Its very common to have to replace the seals after doing a front sprocket.
Hey man! Love your vids.... Im 14 years old and my dad want to buy me another bike but i dont know which bike its better for me between the ktm 150 two stroke or the crf 150r....if you could give me your opinion plz👌
I've now tried this twice with 2 separate All Balls counter shaft seal replacement kits and still have a leak. The seal looks like it's in at the right depth and I used the larger o-ring. Any ideas?
Great video Kyle, just have one question I was doing mine and for some reason I can't get the nut holding the sprocket on off on my yz125, any suggestions,
Someone probably used locktite on it and you don't wanna strip it and make it round. Best thing would let it soak in wd40 for an hour or so and hopefully that gets it lose enough for you to remove it.
I appreciate your videos I think it’s a mistake to put the seal on before you install the sleeve. You run too big of a risk of damaging the seal. Also I would after I clean the parts. I would also have greased the o ring as well the the lip of the seal.
Tip: if you dont have socket big enough to put seal in, place it making sure it is even on each side then put sprocket backwards and then use socket 21 and using hammer gently drive seal in by tapping on sprocket. comes in flash with a case and it will be even surface without damage to seal. grease on o-ring is not a bad idea either. Cheers!
Awesome idea!
Thanks for the video!! I just bought a 2008 KTM XC 300 yesterday and when I checked on it this morning, I saw a puddle of oil under it and went into full panic. Found the source of the leak then found your video. Panic gone, can't wait to fix it and get riding for the first time! Thanks again for this video!!!
Three things:
If your chain is adjusted properly you should have enough slack to slide it off.
As stated below always oil up the seals & O-ring or any parts for that matter.
When pressing in parts you can put them in the freezer for a while. It's not necessary but it can help.
E Money, great tip!!
Why not just take the master link out the chain than put it back together after
Kyle; thanks for this video! I woke up this morning to a randomly leaking countershaft seal.. Got the oem seal and O-ring for $6 and fixed it with your video in under 10 minutes! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
The All Balls Racing countershaft seal kit comes with two different thickness o-rings. In the instructions they say the thicker o-ring is supposed to help prevent future leaks.
I done one on my CRF 450 two weeks ago and just used a wipe of motor oil on the seals and "O" rings just to stop them binding up, great vid keep them coming mate.
+John Roe Good call.
Just found this problem on my KTM. Thought it was going to be major surgery, but looks like something i can mess up all by myself :). Thanks Rocky Mountain from the land down-under.
Always love seeing well explained and neatly filmed tutorial videos. Got an idea for a video for you is an exhaust repacking video. Made a huge difference on my KTM for less then $5
it adds hp
Keep your worn countershaft sprocket, and you'll have a perfect fitting tool to push the snap ring home.
Cheers mate 👍🏻
I didn't have a tool to pull the seal but found a suggestion that worked. I drilled two very small holes in metal part of the seal. Then used a couple wood screws and screwed them in just a tiny bit until they grabbed the hole with the threads. Using a hammer and wood block was able to pry outward and pull the seal out. Not the most efficient but worked!
+Stefan C The seal pullers are only like $10-$15. I've done it a few times without a seal puller and let me tell you, it's worth the money to have it!
+Stefan C Self tapping screws work easier. I use them for pulling crank seals too.
putting seals in without lube is an awesome way to get a leak again real quick, especially iff you contact clean the bush...
thanks for the video it helps a lot of people out and saves them a lot of money from taking it to a dealer to do a simple job. appreciate it.
If you find oil leaking,in that area, be sure to check the clutch cylinder gasket, I replaced a seal before I found the real culprit.
I would suggest just running a bit of oil or great inside the seal so you don't burn the lips off before it gets lube. Going to flush is also good because you have a good reference to make sure the seal is square in the bore
yea..u always use some kind of lube on the inside of seals..I use asembly grease..and I would use a bigger socket to press the seal
Put the outer seal in the freezer overnight and it will go in a lot easier. Also, grease up all rubber seal components.
not needed, bit of grease and and it taps easily in
I used the same procedure on my son's KTM 50 SX mini and it worked great. I replaced the chain and front sprocket at the same time so it was very easy to access the seal area.
u deserve more then 24,716 subs
+Nicholas Tobin We are slowly getting there. I only started this in Jan of 2015.
You do got a point but ur doing awesome keep it up😀
Worth spending a little bit on specialist tools to avoid bigger service centre costs for such an easy repair. Good clear video.
Thanks for the video. Changing out my Honda 250x seal.
I really got recommended this just as my bike got it's counter-shaft seal fixed in the shop.
also, you should have applied some grease to the o-ring and the seal before you slide the bushing on.
How come? What does the grease do?
never to the seal, but oring is fine
You definitely have great videos that also make it easy "todo"! Thanks kyle
thank you sir. i have this same problem and now i am gonna fix it. i hope your channel grows!
dont use a screw driver. just stick an 8mm wrench (that doesnt have a super sharp tip) under the seal. use a larger wrench to attach to the smaller wrench to get extra leverage. was very easy. oh u also have to put something behind the countershaft for leverage. something plastic throw a rag in there if you want some extra safety. I wouldve bought a seal puller ;) but none of the stores had one in my town and everyone looked at me funny like i was making the tool up. lol
Just use you seal remover to pull out the bit that's a little too far in. You can do it without damaging the seal, just be careful.
Thanks for this, I discovered an allen key and pair of pliers gets it off just as easy without buying that tool
Always great videos thanks for sharing
Very helpful I have to do this on my exc 450 it’s flung oil everywhere 😂
You don't need to take the rear wheel off but it does make it easier.
I dig your vids! I have the same bike and many of your how to videos have helped me a ton!!! Thanks!
great vid I enjoy the how to its so important to maintain the toys
+randy 360v Yes, proper maintenance is key on all these bikes if you want them to last.
Great video very helpful. What is the OEM part number for this kit?
I understand what you mean with tapping slowly. Good example. Thanks.
Grease is your friend here.
I read that in Ron's voice
haha
I have an idea for a video that I know would probably help many others out besides myself. Do one on what boots you use/have used/your buddies use. There are so many different types/styles and I ride similar terrain and trails as you so your opinion would help. Thanks, great vids.
+Rob Murphy It is on my list of topics to cover.
Hi. You can do this without taking the rear wheel of. And I suggest that you use a bigger flat hammer and longer socket to push the oil seal straight.
+alex ion That was the biggest socket I have on hand here. I have bigger hammers too, but I like to take it easy :)
Thank you. Sounded easy, but I always like to see it done before I try. Chain needs a little WD-40 after you wash. I noticed some rust :-)
+Kevin Herndon That isn't rust, it's dirt :)
Wd 40 isn't the best for a chain either. It really attracts dirt. Use some chain wax by spectro or something like that.
+Adam Krasnecki it's good to remove all the water. let dry then use chain lube of choice.
Kevin Herndon good point, but isn't it bad on rubber and the o-rings are rubber.
Dude, get black lightning or orange lightning latex gloves for working. They are the bomb, I use the orange ones because they are thicker. Good video btw.
Love your videos man. Keep it up!
+tmac9938 Thanks for the support tmac.
+Dirt Bike Channel jshshsnsnnjajsnnzja
Would the sprocket not make a nice flat surface to push the seal in? Just an observation?
Glad I have same bike as you! Your vids are amazing quality and very informative
+Matthew Ellam Thanks for the support Matthew.
It leaked because you sprayed contact cleaner or brake cleaner on it. Not just because you changed the sprocket.
I did it with out having to take my tire off, ur making it harder for urself but if u like it that way then go for it👍
how did u do it?
everybody's saying 'tire' when it's really "wheel"...
@@user-sp8eb6iz7f He didn't Take the tire Off.... It stayed on The Wheel... 😁😅🤣😇
You make solid videos. Thank you for your help.
Glad to help.
Dirt Bike Channel did it leak from driving in too far?
No, it ended up being fine.
Dirt Bike Channel Thank you. just did it too my main bearing seal
Nice how to vid Kyle!
Another great video. Thanks !!!
stock o-ring will often leak, after replacement. Big Balls countershaft seal kit comes with thicker O-Ring... this will seal it up.
did it leak?
Might be a dumb question but if I had a bad seal, would the sprocket have to be spinning in order to leak? I’ve whipped everything down and let the bike idle for a while and it’s dry as a whistle, do you think I’m good to go?
No, in my experience it will leak when sitting and riding if the seal is out. e.g. mine has been out for a while and leaks when sitting. Maybe in colder weather you could have a seal leak only when riding since the oil would be hotter.
Thank you, great video.
That is my dreambike :3 + Cool that you make these tutorials!
+tura125cc It is an awesome package, these 300s.
How'd it start leaking. Did you put it in gear while changing sprockets or did you over torque it?
Great post. Your videos are why I am going KTM vs Honda, yammy. But I have heard the repairs can be more costly...anyway,did it leak?
I heard a thicker o-ring will solve the leak if it’s not the collar and main lip seal that’s worn...
I just bought all oem parts for this and the spacer sleeve does not have a machined cut out for the o ring. it is flat on both sides. is this right? or okay?
This should be the same on the 200 exc right
have you done a video on motor oils? which one do you use, and should we go synthetic?
I love ur channel man and I’m no hater at all! So many good tips. U are very talented but a mechanic u are not!!!!
Many mechanics are not great mechanics!
What kind of oil do you run in your bottom end?
Does anyone know why my front sprocket has a seal on it? It's all mangled and attached to the sprocket! I'm confused. None of the other bikes have this in any of the videos.
Does you gearbox have any oil left in it? I would do what this video just showed and change the oil in the case before riding again.
Mines been leaking, took it apart no oring seal plus the outer seal had a rip
I pull the master link off of chain to fool with sprocket.
can you tell me what gold chain your using, brand and part#? Its for a 16 300xc. I will order it through your parts link!! thanks in advance....
Taking the master link off and chain off is a lot easier
or just move the wheel forwards
I tapped my seal in too far like you did and it started leaking after 2 rides
liked! awesome job...
+Cogerino86 Thanks for the support.
when you replaced your sprockets, i think you killed your seal when you sprayed that stuff on it (brake cleaner?)
he said it was contact cleaner
Where do u get this kit
Can some one hellp me when I push my bike wile Holding my gluch put then it get stuck and won't move but if I change gears then it will move and after a some steps it will get stuck again
Is the spacer on 125 Ktm sx also
Is that the Citizen Nighthawk watch? Looks sharp! Also, thanks for the helpful vids.
Yes, I've been wearing it every day for 12 years.
if you over tighten the chain then it makes that seal leak it is probably why it started leaking after you changed the sprockets and the chain
+nick 450 No, in this case, chain wasn't too tight. I can see how that could be a factor though. Its very common to have to replace the seals after doing a front sprocket.
When you go with outer (golden) seal too deep in to the engine it will leakage!!
Is that a bulova moon watch?
What's your current tire set up?
Thanks!!!
:D
Hey man! Love your vids.... Im 14 years old and my dad want to buy me another bike but i dont know which bike its better for me
between the ktm 150 two stroke or the crf 150r....if you could give me your opinion plz👌
KTM 150 2 stroke is waaaay better
ktm 150 = pretty close to the best 2 stroke ever made lol
hands down the ktm 150 chap!
What's the part number for the kit?
Cause you really need that contact cleaner in those bearings.
That is not good, either hit it more on the right side and hope the left side stays still. or pull it out and try again.
The kit isn't $15 any more. It's closer to $50 for a newer 300.
Lectron carb?
I've now tried this twice with 2 separate All Balls counter shaft seal replacement kits and still have a leak. The seal looks like it's in at the right depth and I used the larger o-ring. Any ideas?
Use OEM parts?
Did you ever fix it? What was the issue?
Hi. I am looking for the tool you use to get the seal out with. Whats is it called?
Krabben88 you can order it at slackens racing.com. Countershaft puller
Great video Kyle, just have one question I was doing mine and for some reason I can't get the nut holding the sprocket on off on my yz125, any suggestions,
+DimitriTheBoss 123 Have someone hold the rear break for you and then take it off.
+Goldensniper I have, held the brake, wd40, everything, u could think of, unless I'm retarded and turning the wrong way, it won't come off
+Goldensniper Ditto to what he said!
+Dirt Bike Channel would u say an air ratchet would work, while holding brake, because i can't get it with my breaker bar, while holding the brake,
Someone probably used locktite on it and you don't wanna strip it and make it round. Best thing would let it soak in wd40 for an hour or so and hopefully that gets it lose enough for you to remove it.
I would have put some grease on the collar or seal
If you put it in too deep, couldn't you just use the seal puller to gently tug it out again?
Always grease seals and o-ring in this install.
instead of loosening your back tire. try just taking the master link out of your chain. it might be easyer.
+Tyler Crannell That is not easier in any way.
Faild to mention the rounded side and the flat side of the circlip
Did it leak?
nope
I just replaced mine and also tapped in a little to far and hoping it doesn’t leak! It was in before I knew it with a few light taps
why dont you just take the master link off the chain ?? whats what i do .. wasted time braken the Rim bolt lose
Wot chain is that your running dude
+offroaddutch Primary Drive x ring.
+Dirt Bike Channel ah thanks, just had a look and it doesn't look available here
I appreciate your videos I think it’s a mistake to put the seal on before you install the sleeve. You run too big of a risk of damaging the seal. Also I would after I clean the parts. I would also have greased the o ring as well the the lip of the seal.
never install a seal dry always oil the seal !!
its almost a grantee to have premature failure if its dry on install
+Josh You make a good point. I've done it this way many times and haven't had any issues (when changing sprockets), but I do agree with your point.
It was a bitch putting on that snap ring with out the specific tool
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+Carman Eben YES!!
oily the sleeve lol...
shoulda greased it.