Candy was thinking about going "Uncle Buck" on Lucy. "You have been outshining Rudolph's nose for ages! Call a pressure washer and wash out the hideous color off your head! Good day to you, madam."
@@marcjugmohan oddly, I was just talking about him tonight. Not like I do that often so weird I see your comment. I just said, like a few hours ago, "He was such a nice guy and a great actor and comedian who died too soon." So weird.
Until only murders in the building I'd only seen him on law and order svu and had no idea he was this funny. I've been binging on his stuff, and he reminds me of a hyperactive puppy.
It’s 2023 and I still miss Conan. He seems to be the only talk show host that is actually authentic. I come here to watch his videos when I’m down sometimes bc he always makes me life. “What the world needs now Is Conan sweet Conan” 🎶
I always like Conan but I especially enjoy his dynamic with certain guests. When I need a laugh I search UA-cam for some of my old favorites: conan bill burr conan marc maron conan pete holmes conan kevin hart Hope you enjoy and 😂😂😂
Alas, this is unfortunately not an isolated incident. I’m a flight attendant and she had a terrible reputation for treating crew and fellow passengers horribly. I was such a huge fan of her but her attitude and treatment were just so atrocious. Not just with me, but other flight attendants as well. Never meet your ‘heroes.’
How did they treat her? Remember this is a hugely misogynistic society so my first question is what was she reacting to? Let's not pretend flight attendants are angels. Some of them are extremely disrespectful sexist elitist and ageist.
If you’ve ever seen documentaries on how awful hollywood was/is for women, it puts harvey weinstein to shame. Back then it was cool to smoke all day. As she got older, every bone in her body probably ached. When old people get upset and angry unnecessarily, I’ve always been able to neutralize the situation. Martin should have just been incredibly apologetic and kindly explained that there was no way he could have hit her chair. Complement her, and just disarm the situation. Sounds to me like there is more to the story.
@Raising Cain: Very interesting. I'd be curious to know roughly what year you met her and how she treated you or other crew members poorly, if you don't mind sharing. Like John Lennon sang in his solo song: "I don't believe in Elvis, I don't believe in Beatles..." In other words: don't worship artists/entertainers because they are just human. John certainly had his character flaws too....which he recognized by writing that lyric.
@@biegebythesea6775 what a dumb comment and not at all relevant. Back then most fight attendants were female and were not sexist against their own gender. You sound like one of these feminist man haters that want to blame men for every problem you might have.
How odd! I met Lucille Ball when she was walking her dog with her assistant on the streets of San Francisco back in the late 70’s. She must have been in her 70s and she was absolutely delightful to me. Just wonderful. She signed an autograph took a picture with me. She kept calling me “dear”. It’s a favorite memory of mine.
My mother met Lucy once a in Hawaii. Well she didn’t “meet” her but they were at the same resort. My mom said she was extremely rude to everyone. The staff, other guests and even people she was with. Martin’s story definitely checks out
My aunt was in France and the table next to her was Lucille Ball, Imogene Coca, and Sid Ceaser(sp) and she said that they were all nice to the fans except for Lucy Ball, who was a b
She reminds me exactly of my grandmother, looks and attitude. All of it. My grandmother is a very good person and cares a lot about right and wrong but very difficult to deal with because she knows exactly how SHE likes things at all times.
@@richelleeasley6492 . Reading your comment made me think how cool it would be if (for some strange reason) your grandmother were to somehow be reading all these comments, only to then look back at yours and suddenly realize.......WAIT........THAT'S MY GRANDCHILD.............and THAT'S what she thinks of me (because, of course, like most of us, she would ONLY see the "difficult to deal with" part, rather than the fact that you make it VERY clear she's a good person !!) ?? I have NO doubt that we probably could ALL, at times, benefit from getting to see ourselves through other people's eyes. .
Only person who could say "Now the story gets really weak..." and that have it end with him Billy Murray and John Candy having dinner together and plotting an attack on Lucile Ball.
Ah, to have only been sitting at a table within easy earshot of those three that night. As long as they were there, I'd have ordered a second meal, or even a third, if that meant I could stick around.
Here's what some of Lucille Balls peers had to say about her" “She is one of the rare big stars I was sorry I ever met.”-Liz Smith. “She is a monster of staggering charmlessness and monumental lack of humour. . . “-Richard Burton. “In four days she reduced my life expectancy by ten years. . . “ -Jack Benny. "She has been boiled hard from her hatred of me."-Desi Arnaz. "And they say I'm a bitch!"-Joan Crawford. It would appear that she was not the person that she portrayed herself to be when in the light of the public.
Her daughter said she was not funny but very serious. People entwine characters with the real person. They can't seem to separate the two. I had a relative who worked in Hollywood way back in the day, and he said there was more bed hopping, affairs, drugs and booze then there ever was in modern Hollywood. The only difference was they did everything back then in designer gowns and without social media.
@@51Saffron Well said. I used to have a series of books where many of the rich and famous were "critiqued" using reports from various sources. Some very very well loved personalities but behind the scenes they were hardly nice at all. Michael Landon was a real prize. He abandoned his wife and children for another woman and left them in such a financial state that other friends were leaving them CARE packages so they could eat. When you hear the story from Hanna Barberra about Walt Disney and how he tried to steal their ideas and keep them out of the animation business Disney does not come out in a favourable light. There were many more in these books just like them. Wealthy, greedy, and hungry for more at anyone else's expense. There were also some incredibly generous folks so I guess in the end it balances out.
@@oh8wingman Yeah Michael Landon always seemed to be preaching " family values " in his shows but dumped his longtime wife and his boatload of children he had with her for a newer model
My favourite Martin Short memory is from his SCTV days. They used to do their own "commercials" and in one, he plays a businessman proudly demonstrating his "shower in a briefcase". Hysterical!
@@TheOriginalFILIBUSTA Honourable mention has to go to Catherine O'Hara. Brilliant in whatever she does. Do you remember "Homelier You"? I'd love to have seen Andrea Martin's face when they told her which part she'd be playing.
@JustWasted3HoursHere Desi Arnez was hilarious. Try to find the old Saturday Night Live he hosted and played a Doctor curing people with his Cuban cigar. It's really funny. ❤❤❤
i have no idea about the truth of her one way or the other, i just know that since i was a little kid in the 70s and her show was in syndication i have always gotten a bad vibe about her and disliked her.
Jack Benny once worked with her. Because once was all he needed... He was quoted on working with her by saying something like, "Working with her took years off the end of my life..."
He told a story of he and Barbara Walters sitting next to each other and a bunch of A Listers and he suggested just for fun, let's guess how much each of these people are worth, she's like alright, he says " let's start with you first" 😂😂
@@biegebythesea6775 John Candy's reaction would have been the same if Short's argument had been with Bob Hope, John Kennedy or Mike Tyson. Because that's how male friendship works, pure and simple. As to the sexist lies, we were not there, so we don't know what really happened. You wrote in another comment that men were "stupid pigs". Call it mansplaining if it gives you any solace, but I would suggest that you work on your perspective. So called misogyny doesn't explain each and every action of men.
@@vincentmutel7313 Yeh it changes nothing I said. You're a man, you don't hit women. Full stop. A man vs a man is a fair fight. A massive lug of a man vs a woman? absolutely NOT OKAY. No h wouldn't have done it to Mike Tyson and Martin would definitely not have disrespected Mike. He wouldn't have done it to any man. 'We were not there' yet everyone in the comments has made an assumption that she was the problem and so I will make my own assumption too (I hope you're telling them they weren't there. oh you're not? funny that). Yes misogyny explains it very well. He wouldn't have had the audacity to behave like that towards a man. That's all you need to know.
@@biegebythesea6775 "I hope you're telling them they weren't there. Oh you're not? Funny that." That is where I stopped reading. As long as you insist on doing both the asking and the answering, what's the point of sending me a response? You're obviously not interested in what I may have to say. So I'll leave you to your sad, bitter, bitchy, whining, self-pitying and irrational hatred towards half of mankind, while I enjoy the company of both men and women I respect equally. Have fun spreading your misery anywhere else.
Lucille Ball had a reputation as an insufferable, demanding person. My late uncle approached her in an airport terminal and she snapped, "I dont know you!" It ruined his image of a star that he once adored.
I worked as an airport agent in Palm Springs California. I witnessed this type of behavior several times and it was directed to adults and kids. She was not a pleasant person in real life.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean! When I was in Vegas ten years ago, I had a similar situation with one of the stars from Law & Order SVU. When I told him I was a long time fan of the show, his reaction of: "yeah man... whatever" and the dirty look gave me changed my perception of him.
Love Martin Short. When i was a kid, i sold Dickie Dee from a bike. While in High Park, he came with his kids and got ice cream. Total was like 4 bucks or something. Gave me a 20 and said keep the change. Doesnt sound like much now but back then, in 85'. That was god tier tipping. Bought my loyalty for life :-)
lucky! I also rode the Dickie Dee. Prob one of my fav jobs, looking back. take as many or as few breaks as you want cuz it only really affects your bottom line, stop by the pool on super hot days and trade the girls on duty ice cream for a quick dip, paid cash at the end of the day... but I never met freaking Martin Short, ya bastard! :P
I had a friend who worked at Disney and said when Marty was there with his young children getting the VIP treatment he was sweet, funny, and humble to everyone.
Stewardess friend from Northwest back then said Lucy was banned from that airline, and a couple of others she knew of. The original no fly list, Suspect One. These stories about her doing that are everywhere.
Martin Short is a part of the fabric of my reality. Which is why I was so elated when I saw him at the Toronto airport. No first class nothing stuck in a terminal with me and like 12 other people with no ac it was like a hundred degrees. He was an absolute gem and he was totally doing a character so I wouldn’t bug him but I did anyway and he was the best.
Love Martin short and all that physical comedy. Funny guy. I didn't realise he was in the spiderwick chronicles. My little girl saw it only five years ago or so. She is thirteen now and it still scares her, but she won't stop watching it. Good movie.
My cousin was a flight attendant, she worked a flight that Lucy was on. She asked if she would like something to drink, her assistant told my cousin that Ms. Ball doesn't speak to common people, my cousin told her, if she wants something to drink, she'll have to speak to this common person!
Heard a similar story about the singer Cilla Black in the uk. Her assistant said not to speak to Ms Black. At which point the steward said ‘I knew she couldn’t sing, I didn’t realise she couldn’t speak either’😄
Wow, that and the story Martin Short tells certainly bring Lucille Ball down more than a peg. Here's a less funny story about an "icon" who turns out to be a massive jerk. A major art collector in LA was in a restaurant close to a table where Frank Sinatra sat with some of his mob type buddies, and those buddies were talking loudly in making anti-semitic comments. Finally, the art collector stepped to that table and said he was offended by their comments. Those guys then beat up on the art collector who was so seriously injured that he had permanent damage from it. Sinatra sat by and took no exception to his thug friends beating up on a guy. That story alone left me unable to ever listen to Sinata's singing without revulsion. Of course, I've always thought he was a grossly overrated lounge singer with a smooth voice but no real soul.
I've read biographies of actors, that have entertained Mr. Short. He is this guy. He's funny, warm, and venerous. It breaks my heart that he lost his beloved wife. He hasn't remarried. He and Maya Rudolph r comedy gold.
If you haven't seen his Netflix special with Steve Martin (I think it's called "An Evening You'll Forget For The Rest Of Your Life"), I highly recommend making sure that you do so. It's like a 90-minute live performance where the two of them do some comedy, look back on their careers and tell stories, riff in sit-down interviews, and do some musical numbers. It's really great.
What a insane story. Martin just took it over like a NATURAL Comic. Conan is just along for the ride. Man he's GOOD! wow and he was like she's gone she was an icon - who doesn't love luci. Bravo Good Sir. Man he knocked it out of the park!!! WE need more really good comics like THree AMigos and Airplane!! (I Love Leslie Nielsen RIP)
@@jld593 Weird...multiple personal accounts in this comment section, validating the "theory" that Lucille Ball was a generally unpleasant person to be around... But including a credible celebrity quote, is a step too far??
I'm a huge Lucille Ball fan, but loads of people think Lucy Ricardo and she are the same person and that couldn't be more wrong. She was quite a serious person from before her comic debut on television and as she got older, she got more set in her ways (as the older we get, the more we do) and if you read her biography, her life growing up wasn't easy either and the role models we have as young can set the tone for how we'll become when we grow up - not always, of course, but more often than not. For those interested in having a better glimpse of how she was when she was older (around Martin Short's story actually), I'd recommend reading the book I Loved Lucy: My Friendship with Lucille Ball by Lee Tannen.
A lot of people try to make Desi Arnaz the villain in her story, but it would not be easy to be married to Lucille Ball. Bottom line, they each had areas of brilliance the other didn't, with Arnaz much more of a people person.
There's an old saying that some people are reusing here which is "never meet your heroes" (or words to that effect). I would say, as long as you are prepared, if you have a chance to meet one of your heroes, I don't think I'd let this sort of thing stop me. And sometimes, they can totally live up to the expectations. I felt that way when I met William Hurt as well as Sissy Spacek!! Another would be John Travolta.
This dude is so funny. He's the reason why I watch OMITB. Can't wait for season 2. Steve Martin is funny too but Martin short makes the show. I just watched this movie he did when he played a clumsy bank robber and omg he was so funny in it.
This is going to sound crazy, but when I was working as a model in New York, I visited Los Angeles, and my father took me in a restaurant called Mateo’s Amongst many celebrities there was Don Rickles and Lucille Ball. My lunatic father brought Lucy back to the table, where she introduced herself to me and told me that she was once a model in New York. Her voice was very low,and she kindly put out her hand. I’m not one to be starstruck, but I was speechless. All I could say was I love you, Lucy.
Someone once said Lucy wasn't funny, but knew how to act it. Huge difference. She was really a no-nonsene person and that's why she with Desi created one of the best production companies ever (Desilu). She's still one of the greatest. 📺🎬📽
Yes, that's true. Lucille Ball said herself that she was not a funny person in real life . . . but if you give her something funny to act out, she could do it and she was great at it.
The sheer irony of comparing meeting Lucy to all those times her character met a celebrity and just spilled as much spaghetti as seemingly possible. I was sure this was going to turn out to be a gag. I guess she was just having a bad day.. like that time she thought she was picking up radio signals on her teeth.
I remember I was on a plane once, we were about 20 minutes into the flight, and the guy in the seat in front of me turned around, looked at me, and yelled "STOP FOLLOWING ME!!"
Back in the early 60’s my husband worked at a Chevron station near a prominent movie studio. Lucile Ball used to come in from time to time and was always very pleasant to him. He said she had a good sense of humor.
I think a lot of people think of Lucille Ball as what they saw her as on TV but I get the feeling she was more like how Martin Short explained her as than what she was on TV.
I don't. Everyone said Martin was being a dk. The guy he mentioned said after he was being obnoxious, her manager got angry at his behaviour. Everyone called him out and like a big baby he goes on to to slande he name and blame her for his childish behaviour.
@@biegebythesea6775 Short was being obnoxious after Lucy accused him of kicking the seat several times. I think Short has a good reason at being annoyed by the whole encounter. Lucy was being a diva and by this in her life was a very unhappy woman. A failed comeback in the 1980 and not getting the recognition she once had decades prior probably fueled this encounter and I would assume a great many more.
Esther Williams was married to Mario Lanza who was best friends with Desi Arnez. Esther said Lucy was morose in real life and a dreadful person to be around. She was insanely generous with waitstaff and other services personnel giving them hundred dollar tips way back in the 60s, but she was a bitter, mean woman and to other actors she was arrogant and disrespectful. These are things Esther said on the Rosanne Barr show in the late 90s or early 2000s I can't remember when that show was on. Maybe you can still find it.
I can only imagine what that level of fame does to a person over time, but there are a lot of similar stories out there about her acting like that in her later years. It's well known that she was a perfectionist and a bit of a diva at the height of her fame, so it stands to reason that the diva in her was at odds with the fact that she was getting old and the television industry was moving on without her. Going from being young and having the biggest TV show in America to attempting a failed comeback in the 80's and getting canceled after like 7 episodes has to be a pretty big blow to the ego. Either way, just be nice to people.
Lucile Ball strikes me as someone who knew how to be funny professionally but wasn't funny personally. And by the early 80's, her kind of professional funny had passed its expiration date.
you don’t know anything about her or martin short. she was the most famous actress at the time and btw she wasn’t young when she started lucy, she was 40. and she was married to a cheater and having to raise her kids and make all the money to support them herself. also, martin short is super annoying. he’s loud, never stops talking and is always at a 10. the fact that he would think lucille ball would recognize him in the 80s is laughable and shows what a huge ego he has. give her a break geez
@@double6ixes I believe Short's story. Lucile Ball could be very impatient with people in public - & she was famous for it. This isn't the only story I've heard over the years about her getting over the top angry at someone she felt annoyed by. Her boorish behavior here had everything to do with her self perceived super star status & oversized ego & nothing at all to do with her marriage, her raising of her children, or her means of financial support. Plenty of people have personal & professional issues with similarity to hers and never behave toward others as she sometimes did. By the time of this flight, it's clear she had become, & gotten away with being when it suited her, a selfishly entitled, thoughtless bully, which is sad.
@@lakemichigan6598 It probably hurt seeing none of the new stars having to go through a lot of the hard work she put in, not having to prove themselves as hard, not having to work LIVE for years.. she probably rightfully felt she deserved a free ride, and I imagine everyone would have been happy to give it to her, but entitlement doesn't usually stay in the fair zone does it. Plus nothing fair about getting old, she probably FELT something kicking her.
Has there ever been another person so excited to be in show biz? Maybe Liberace (for those old enough to remember). Their unbridled joy is so much fun to watch!
You must be in your 70s or 80s yourself to have a grandmother that used to babysit Lucille Ball as she babysat Lucille Ball then this must’ve been the late 1910s early 1920s
@@johnfd0210Again, a stupid remark. Is this just how you roll? My father was born in 1913. My grandmother could have been Lucy's babysitter, too. But she didn't live anywhere near Jamestown. I was born when my dad was in his forties. I was a toddler when his mother died. My oldest brothers and sisters could have heard stories like that. Some if them are still alive and in their 70's. I am 60-ish.
His family and friends have said the character he played that was most like his real self was Uncle Buck. Who was the one Candy character who did have a bit of an edge if someone was in the wrong.
@@biegebythesea6775 hmmm new 'sign on' no sub support; fOllOw mis gyn ..tory do let us ALL in on your next coherent thought open minds such refreshing comments
Just came across this for the first time and find it so hilarious since I just started watching I Love Lucy after many years of only catching a few minutes of it now and then. Seeing the show and hearing Martin Short's story makes me think that she is like the old character in the Mrs. Maisel series, or maybe she just liked f'ing with people. Imagine if that were the case. "Shut up you little boy", lol
“And this is where the story gets really weak.” 🤣
My favorite part is John Candy getting all worked up about it.
And his instant impression of John saying it.
Amen. I miss John Candy. RIP.
Yes!
Yeah. He seemed like a great guy
Right???!!! Oh I miss him so much!!!
The idea of John Candy getting really mad and wanting to find Lucy to beat her up(?) is just hilarious.
Candy was thinking about going "Uncle Buck" on Lucy. "You have been outshining Rudolph's nose for ages! Call a pressure washer and wash out the hideous color off your head! Good day to you, madam."
@@lewistasso8866 😆🤣😂
Imagine the headlines if that came to pass.... "America's Sweetheart, Lucille Ball, assaulted by Canadians in New York."
No the idea of a gigantic man wanting to beat up a woman isn't funny at all
@@biegebythesea6775 Don't be a Karen.
John Candy, " let's go and find her" 🤣🤣🤣
I could hear John Candy saying that. Man I miss John!
Which is funny in itself when you remember what a sweet, nice guy Candy was. He was leading the charge to kick Lucy's butt, lol.🤣
@carolynm8421 exactly what I was thinking he was such a nice guy
@@marcjugmohan oddly, I was just talking about him tonight. Not like I do that often so weird I see your comment. I just said, like a few hours ago, "He was such a nice guy and a great actor and comedian who died too soon." So weird.
"Lucy! You scare me!" Marty Short you are quick and you are brilliant.
I literally laughed out loud at that part! 🤣
I loved the impression of Martin Short doing Lucille Ball's cry.
Martin Short is a comedic icon and legend. He just can’t stop…EVER!
I'm watching him on YT until murder only in the building season 2 comes out😝
Until only murders in the building I'd only seen him on law and order svu and had no idea he was this funny. I've been binging on his stuff, and he reminds me of a hyperactive puppy.
@@payableondeath9091 is it good?
I think Martin short should write a memoir about his experiences and he should call it “short stories”
That’s a brilliant idea! I second that!👏🏻
He has a memoir and it's both funny and moving. The moving part regards his relationship with Gilda Radner and his wife who died.
Don't Jump To Conclusions 😂
Named after your favorite part? ;
It’s 2023 and I still miss Conan. He seems to be the only talk show host that is actually authentic. I come here to watch his videos when I’m down sometimes bc he always makes me life.
“What the world needs now
Is Conan sweet Conan” 🎶
Conan is still on TBS every night.
I always like Conan but I especially enjoy his dynamic with certain guests. When I need a laugh I search UA-cam for some of my old favorites:
conan bill burr
conan marc maron
conan pete holmes
conan kevin hart
Hope you enjoy and 😂😂😂
He has a podcast that I hear is good.
I miss when late night was funny instead of angry or banal.
@@JW-vd4il No Norm Macdonald?
Alas, this is unfortunately not an isolated incident. I’m a flight attendant and she had a terrible reputation for treating crew and fellow passengers horribly. I was such a huge fan of her but her attitude and treatment were just so atrocious. Not just with me, but other flight attendants as well.
Never meet your ‘heroes.’
How did they treat her? Remember this is a hugely misogynistic society so my first question is what was she reacting to? Let's not pretend flight attendants are angels. Some of them are extremely disrespectful sexist elitist and ageist.
If you’ve ever seen documentaries on how awful hollywood was/is for women, it puts harvey weinstein to shame.
Back then it was cool to smoke all day. As she got older, every bone in her body probably ached.
When old people get upset and angry unnecessarily, I’ve always been able to neutralize the situation. Martin should have just been incredibly apologetic and kindly explained that there was no way he could have hit her chair. Complement her, and just disarm the situation.
Sounds to me like there is more to the story.
@@gial8862 doesn't give them the right to treat strangers like crap.
@Raising Cain: Very interesting. I'd be curious to know roughly what year you met her and how she treated you or other crew members poorly, if you don't mind sharing. Like John Lennon sang in his solo song: "I don't believe in Elvis, I don't believe in Beatles..." In other words: don't worship artists/entertainers because they are just human. John certainly had his character flaws too....which he recognized by writing that lyric.
@@biegebythesea6775 what a dumb comment and not at all relevant. Back then most fight attendants were female and were not sexist against their own gender. You sound like one of these feminist man haters that want to blame men for every problem you might have.
Martin short is a rare gem of a storyteller.
Yes, you could say it's a Short story!
Padum pump> lol good one
How odd! I met Lucille Ball when she was walking her dog with her assistant on the streets of San Francisco back in the late 70’s. She must have been in her 70s and she was absolutely delightful to me. Just wonderful. She signed an autograph took a picture with me. She kept calling me “dear”. It’s a favorite memory of mine.
My mother met Lucy once a in Hawaii. Well she didn’t “meet” her but they were at the same resort. My mom said she was extremely rude to everyone. The staff, other guests and even people she was with. Martin’s story definitely checks out
too bad Karen technology wasn't around back then🤣
I lived and worked in Palm Springs, California and dealt with her twice . She was tough , rude and not very pleasant.
My aunt was in France and the table next to her was Lucille Ball,
Imogene Coca, and Sid Ceaser(sp) and she said that they were all nice to the fans except for Lucy Ball, who was a b
She reminds me exactly of my grandmother, looks and attitude. All of it. My grandmother is a very good person and cares a lot about right and wrong but very difficult to deal with because she knows exactly how SHE likes things at all times.
@@richelleeasley6492
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Reading your comment made me think how cool it would be if (for some strange reason) your grandmother were to somehow be reading all these comments, only to then look back at yours and suddenly realize.......WAIT........THAT'S MY GRANDCHILD.............and THAT'S what she thinks of me (because, of course, like most of us, she would ONLY see the "difficult to deal with" part, rather than the fact that you make it VERY clear she's a good person !!) ??
I have NO doubt that we probably could ALL, at times, benefit from getting to see ourselves through other people's eyes.
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Martin Short always delivers when he's on a talk show.
that is his job description.
He's the most naturally funny guy I've ever seen.
You're right, he ALWAYS delivers.
wish martin would host a late night talk show. rather than colbeirt , cordan, or kimmel.
@@desiguy55 he did as a character, i forget the name...
@@paladro Primetime Glick. Pure comedy.
"Now the story gets really weak" lol
Only person who could say "Now the story gets really weak..." and that have it end with him Billy Murray and John Candy having dinner together and plotting an attack on Lucile Ball.
Martin short, John candy and bill Murray at dinner in the eighties
I know ! That would be Absolutely amazing !
That's the story I really want to hear
Ah, to have only been sitting at a table within easy earshot of those three that night.
As long as they were there, I'd have ordered a second meal, or even a third, if that meant I could stick around.
There’s a bar joke in there somewhere
@@lakemichigan6598 if Rick moranis and Dan akroyd were around too.... encroyable
Here's what some of Lucille Balls peers had to say about her"
“She is one of the rare big stars I was sorry I ever met.”-Liz Smith.
“She is a monster of staggering charmlessness and monumental lack of humour. . . “-Richard Burton.
“In four days she reduced my life expectancy by ten years. . . “ -Jack Benny.
"She has been boiled hard from her hatred of me."-Desi Arnaz.
"And they say I'm a bitch!"-Joan Crawford.
It would appear that she was not the person that she portrayed herself to be when in the light of the public.
Her daughter said she was not funny but very serious. People entwine characters with the real person. They can't seem to separate the two. I had a relative who worked in Hollywood way back in the day, and he said there was more bed hopping, affairs, drugs and booze then there ever was in modern Hollywood. The only difference was they did everything back then in designer gowns and without social media.
@@51Saffron Well said. I used to have a series of books where many of the rich and famous were "critiqued" using reports from various sources. Some very very well loved personalities but behind the scenes they were hardly nice at all. Michael Landon was a real prize. He abandoned his wife and children for another woman and left them in such a financial state that other friends were leaving them CARE packages so they could eat. When you hear the story from Hanna Barberra about Walt Disney and how he tried to steal their ideas and keep them out of the animation business Disney does not come out in a favourable light. There were many more in these books just like them. Wealthy, greedy, and hungry for more at anyone else's expense. There were also some incredibly generous folks so I guess in the end it balances out.
@@oh8wingman Plus, Walt was a Nazi sympathizer. That alone puts him in a bad light.
I also read that John Wayne was banging Lucy back in the I love Lucy days
@@oh8wingman Yeah Michael Landon always seemed to be preaching " family values " in his shows but dumped his longtime wife and his boatload of children he had with her for a newer model
My favourite Martin Short memory is from his SCTV days. They used to do their own "commercials" and in one, he plays a businessman proudly demonstrating his "shower in a briefcase". Hysterical!
I’d forgotten about that one! 😂😂😂 Thanks for the reminder!🤣🤣🤣
I'd forgotten that too!!! I was like, 12 years old and on the floor laughing!
@@TheOriginalFILIBUSTA Honourable mention has to go to Catherine O'Hara. Brilliant in whatever she does. Do you remember "Homelier You"? I'd love to have seen Andrea Martin's face when they told her which part she'd be playing.
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Omg I remember that.. 😂
Lucy did not have an "off day", but thank you for saying that. My cousin was a flight attendant for American and Lucy was horrible to deal with.
Yep. Their daughter said that Desi was the funny and nice one at home, not her mom.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
Desi Arnez was hilarious. Try to find the old Saturday Night Live he hosted and played a Doctor curing people with his Cuban cigar. It's really funny. ❤❤❤
@JustWasted3HoursHere Sad how the autobiography movie treated her as the victim. It's kinda gaslighting.
i have no idea about the truth of her one way or the other, i just know that since i was a little kid in the 70s and her show was in syndication i have always gotten a bad vibe about her and disliked her.
Jack Benny once worked with her. Because once was all he needed...
He was quoted on working with her by saying something like, "Working with her took years off the end of my life..."
He told a story of he and Barbara Walters sitting next to each other and a bunch of A Listers and he suggested just for fun, let's guess how much each of these people are worth, she's like alright, he says " let's start with you first" 😂😂
The way that Martin Short says "No" at 0:18 is hilarious!
I liked that too !
Loved it when he played “Fronk” in Father of the Bride with Steve Martin 😊
I don’t think i’ve ever seen Conan so hooked
John Candy reacted like a true friend.
With misogyny? A true friend doesn't support his friend's sexist lies.
@@biegebythesea6775 John Candy's reaction would have been the same if Short's argument had been with Bob Hope, John Kennedy or Mike Tyson. Because that's how male friendship works, pure and simple. As to the sexist lies, we were not there, so we don't know what really happened.
You wrote in another comment that men were "stupid pigs". Call it mansplaining if it gives you any solace, but I would suggest that you work on your perspective. So called misogyny doesn't explain each and every action of men.
@@vincentmutel7313 Yeh it changes nothing I said. You're a man, you don't hit women. Full stop. A man vs a man is a fair fight. A massive lug of a man vs a woman? absolutely NOT OKAY. No h wouldn't have done it to Mike Tyson and Martin would definitely not have disrespected Mike. He wouldn't have done it to any man. 'We were not there' yet everyone in the comments has made an assumption that she was the problem and so I will make my own assumption too (I hope you're telling them they weren't there. oh you're not? funny that). Yes misogyny explains it very well. He wouldn't have had the audacity to behave like that towards a man. That's all you need to know.
@@biegebythesea6775 "I hope you're telling them they weren't there. Oh you're not? Funny that."
That is where I stopped reading.
As long as you insist on doing both the asking and the answering, what's the point of sending me a response? You're obviously not interested in what I may have to say. So I'll leave you to your sad, bitter, bitchy, whining, self-pitying and irrational hatred towards half of mankind, while I enjoy the company of both men and women I respect equally. Have fun spreading your misery anywhere else.
Lucille Ball had a reputation as an insufferable, demanding person. My late uncle approached her in an airport terminal and she snapped, "I dont know you!" It ruined his image of a star that he once adored.
I worked as an airport agent in Palm Springs California. I witnessed this type of behavior several times and it was directed to adults and kids.
She was not a pleasant person in real life.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean! When I was in Vegas ten years ago, I had a similar situation with one of the stars from Law & Order SVU. When I told him I was a long time fan of the show, his reaction of: "yeah man... whatever" and the dirty look gave me changed my perception of him.
@Starry Night Ice T
@@seanpowell1661What a creep. I'm sorry.
@@seanpowell1661 That's weird. A friend of mine had the opposite reaction when meeting him. Called Ice T one of the nicest celebrities he met.
Love Martin Short. When i was a kid, i sold Dickie Dee from a bike. While in High Park, he came with his kids and got ice cream. Total was like 4 bucks or something. Gave me a 20 and said keep the change. Doesnt sound like much now but back then, in 85'. That was god tier tipping. Bought my loyalty for life :-)
Oh Dickie Dee, I miss them. I'm sure it was an interesting job though.
lucky! I also rode the Dickie Dee. Prob one of my fav jobs, looking back. take as many or as few breaks as you want cuz it only really affects your bottom line, stop by the pool on super hot days and trade the girls on duty ice cream for a quick dip, paid cash at the end of the day...
but I never met freaking Martin Short, ya bastard! :P
Martin Short may just be the most delightful personality the world has ever seen.
That was once my dream job. no joke.
I had a friend who worked at Disney and said when Marty was there with his young children getting the VIP treatment he was sweet, funny, and humble to everyone.
Stewardess friend from Northwest back then said Lucy was banned from that airline, and a couple of others she knew of. The original no fly list, Suspect One. These stories about her doing that are everywhere.
She didn't have to board first just because she could. She could have boarded last.
My father worked for TWA at JFK. I recall she was banned from flying them.
This guy has made me laugh my ENTIRE LIFE! That face! 😂😅🤣
I've heard she was an absolute nightmare on the set. Her daughter on the other hand, is a sweetheart
My friend played guitar for her daughter and I can attest that Lucie Arnaz is a sweet and professional woman.
@@peterzang Yes, I saw her beautiful personality come through when shewas interviewed by an Australian Morning TV show
Martin Short is a genius.
and Canadian.
@@MarcKloos Agreed
He is a canuck, but that doesn't make him a genius.
@@martitinkovich4489 word
@@martitinkovich4489 Definitely. Just look at our Prime Minister.
Two genuinely smart and funny people together!
Martin Short is a part of the fabric of my reality. Which is why I was so elated when I saw him at the Toronto airport. No first class nothing stuck in a terminal with me and like 12 other people with no ac it was like a hundred degrees. He was an absolute gem and he was totally doing a character so I wouldn’t bug him but I did anyway and he was the best.
O!M!G! Marty Short is the funniest man alive!!! Conan is wonderful. Love from Toronto.
Love Martin short and all that physical comedy. Funny guy. I didn't realise he was in the spiderwick chronicles. My little girl saw it only five years ago or so. She is thirteen now and it still scares her, but she won't stop watching it. Good movie.
Martin Short does the smoothest insults ever.
Two legends having a chat. They are so much alike.
I love that John Candy wanted to find her ❤
I don't. Aggressive men are frightening.
John Candy’s contribution 🤣🤣👍🏽
My cousin was a flight attendant, she worked a flight that Lucy was on. She asked if she would like something to drink, her assistant told my cousin that Ms. Ball doesn't speak to common people, my cousin told her, if she wants something to drink, she'll have to speak to this common person!
Heard a similar story about the singer Cilla Black in the uk. Her assistant said not to speak to Ms Black. At which point the steward said ‘I knew she couldn’t sing, I didn’t realise she couldn’t speak either’😄
Wow, that and the story Martin Short tells certainly bring Lucille Ball down more than a peg. Here's a less funny story about an "icon" who turns out to be a massive jerk. A major art collector in LA was in a restaurant close to a table where Frank Sinatra sat with some of his mob type buddies, and those buddies were talking loudly in making anti-semitic comments. Finally, the art collector stepped to that table and said he was offended by their comments. Those guys then beat up on the art collector who was so seriously injured that he had permanent damage from it. Sinatra sat by and took no exception to his thug friends beating up on a guy. That story alone left me unable to ever listen to Sinata's singing without revulsion. Of course, I've always thought he was a grossly overrated lounge singer with a smooth voice but no real soul.
Ooh that was a burn @@vinceely2906
I've heard the same thing about Barbra Streisand.
@@vinceely2906 That is a PERFECT comeback!
A comedy legend talking about a comedy legend...
The casual name drop for that dinner and then just moves on. Martin Short is great
I've read biographies of actors, that have entertained Mr. Short. He is this guy. He's funny, warm, and venerous. It breaks my heart that he lost his beloved wife. He hasn't remarried. He and Maya Rudolph r comedy gold.
They were all on SCTV together so it barely qualifies as a name drop, since you would expect them to be close friends
@@thetruthno1 Bill Murry was on National Lampoon Radio, not SCTV. Regardless, all 3 were well acquainted.
@@bagman817 Bill Murray did appear on SCTVi think at least 2-3 times
He's a helluva storyteller
If you haven't seen his Netflix special with Steve Martin (I think it's called "An Evening You'll Forget For The Rest Of Your Life"), I highly recommend making sure that you do so. It's like a 90-minute live performance where the two of them do some comedy, look back on their careers and tell stories, riff in sit-down interviews, and do some musical numbers. It's really great.
What a insane story. Martin just took it over like a NATURAL Comic. Conan is just along for the ride. Man he's GOOD! wow and he was like she's gone she was an icon - who doesn't love luci. Bravo Good Sir. Man he knocked it out of the park!!! WE need more really good comics like THree AMigos and Airplane!! (I Love Leslie Nielsen RIP)
Martin Short is the freaking best. :)
“This is not the Lucy I knew” 😂
It was probably just turbulence, and Lucy thought it was Martin Short kicking her chair
Martin Short is probably one of thr actors I can remember as far as my toddler years. Always a legend.
As Richard Burton said; "I loath Lucy."
And …. I … loathe … Richard Burton.
And Richard knew Lucy and you never knew Richard. So your opinion means much less. Almost nothing, really.
@@jld593 Weird...multiple personal accounts in this comment section, validating the "theory" that Lucille Ball was a generally unpleasant person to be around...
But including a credible celebrity quote, is a step too far??
The quote that I found, attributed to Burton...
"She is a monster of staggering charmlessness and monumental lack of humour."
Why the hell didn't he just say "Mam I never kicked your seat!" "I have no idea what you're talking about!".
Because she was royalty. There’s no scenario where you debate with someone of that stature and come out the winner.
@@83gemm I would have said that to her. If he didn't kick her seat he should have said so. She's still not above being corrected.
@@Tommyr Well, you’re just too cool and it’s lucky for Lucille Ball that she never encountered you. 🤣
That’s cause he probably did.
Because he's Canadian, seriously though, he probably did said that and she didn't believed him.
Lucie, her daughter, said in many interviews that the real Lucy was not what you saw on television.
I love John Candy! It was nice to hear his name.
When I worked at CBS, I heard numerous stories from many people describing Lucy as obnoxious, nasty, rude & extremely entitled.
OMG now I want to know MORE
Even Joan Crawford remarked about how mean she was!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jaengen
when Crawford says that, that's terrifying in a Stephen King sort of way.
A woman ahead of her time
I'm a huge Lucille Ball fan, but loads of people think Lucy Ricardo and she are the same person and that couldn't be more wrong. She was quite a serious person from before her comic debut on television and as she got older, she got more set in her ways (as the older we get, the more we do) and if you read her biography, her life growing up wasn't easy either and the role models we have as young can set the tone for how we'll become when we grow up - not always, of course, but more often than not. For those interested in having a better glimpse of how she was when she was older (around Martin Short's story actually), I'd recommend reading the book I Loved Lucy: My Friendship with Lucille Ball by Lee Tannen.
Listen to TCM’s season on Lucille, it’s incredibly interesting.
A lot of people try to make Desi Arnaz the villain in her story, but it would not be easy to be married to Lucille Ball. Bottom line, they each had areas of brilliance the other didn't, with Arnaz much more of a people person.
There's an old saying that some people are reusing here which is "never meet your heroes" (or words to that effect). I would say, as long as you are prepared, if you have a chance to meet one of your heroes, I don't think I'd let this sort of thing stop me. And sometimes, they can totally live up to the expectations. I felt that way when I met William Hurt as well as Sissy Spacek!! Another would be John Travolta.
You know it was bad if John Candy got mad
I love Martin's impression of Lucy's voice by that time. Since she wrecked her vocal chords
Smoking
Clifford is one of the most underrated movies of all time.
It is well known now that Lucy was NOT a nice person. She was tough and overbearing and probably very sad inside.
Lucille Ball was a great talent. As a person it's another story.....
I forgot how funny Martin Short is. Funny dude.
Lucy has got some splainin’ to do!😂😂😂😂
Excellent!!!
This dude is so funny. He's the reason why I watch OMITB. Can't wait for season 2. Steve Martin is funny too but Martin short makes the show. I just watched this movie he did when he played a clumsy bank robber and omg he was so funny in it.
Watch Pure Luck if u haven't seen already with Martin Short & Danny Glover. Hilarious!
This is going to sound crazy, but when I was working as a model in New York, I visited Los Angeles, and my father took me in a restaurant called Mateo’s Amongst many celebrities there was Don Rickles and Lucille Ball. My lunatic father brought Lucy back to the table, where she introduced herself to me and told me that she was once a model in New York. Her voice was very low,and she kindly put out her hand. I’m not one to be starstruck, but I was speechless. All I could say was I love you, Lucy.
Someone once said Lucy wasn't funny, but knew how to act it. Huge difference. She was really a no-nonsene person and that's why she with Desi created one of the best production companies ever (Desilu). She's still one of the greatest. 📺🎬📽
Yes, that's true. Lucille Ball said herself that she was not a funny person in real life . . . but if you give her something funny to act out, she could do it and she was great at it.
@@LuvTadnDixie 👍
Exactly, she was an actor not a comedian and when you said, "no-nonsense" that was her for sure. She was an extremely serious person!
Still a horrible person. What kind of legacy is that to leave behind when most speak ill of you?
The sheer irony of comparing meeting Lucy to all those times her character met a celebrity and just spilled as much spaghetti as seemingly possible. I was sure this was going to turn out to be a gag. I guess she was just having a bad day.. like that time she thought she was picking up radio signals on her teeth.
I remember I was on a plane once, we were about 20 minutes into the flight, and the guy in the seat in front of me turned around, looked at me, and yelled "STOP FOLLOWING ME!!"
LOL. Awesome.
“I’m not following you I’m trying to pass. STOP CUTTING ME OFF”
🤣
😂😂🤣🤣
No star would be anything without the fans. We gave them their success and buy movie tickets.
Rumor at TWA when I worked as a flight attendant that Lucy was banned from travel because she slapped a flight attendant for speaking to her.
that sounds completely made up. That she "slapped" a flight attendant for simply speaking to her. Sounds like a lie.
Back in the early 60’s my husband worked at a Chevron station near a prominent movie studio. Lucile Ball used to come in from time to time and was always very pleasant to him. He said she had a good sense of humor.
I wanted to soften the story...I LOVE LUCY!🤣
I think a lot of people think of Lucille Ball as what they saw her as on TV but I get the feeling she was more like how Martin Short explained her as than what she was on TV.
I don't. Everyone said Martin was being a dk. The guy he mentioned said after he was being obnoxious, her manager got angry at his behaviour. Everyone called him out and like a big baby he goes on to to slande he name and blame her for his childish behaviour.
@@biegebythesea6775 Short was being obnoxious after Lucy accused him of kicking the seat several times. I think Short has a good reason at being annoyed by the whole encounter. Lucy was being a diva and by this in her life was a very unhappy woman. A failed comeback in the 1980 and not getting the recognition she once had decades prior probably fueled this encounter and I would assume a great many more.
Esther Williams was married to Mario Lanza who was best friends with Desi Arnez. Esther said Lucy was morose in real life and a dreadful person to be around. She was insanely generous with waitstaff and other services personnel giving them hundred dollar tips way back in the 60s, but she was a bitter, mean woman and to other actors she was arrogant and disrespectful. These are things Esther said on the Rosanne Barr show in the late 90s or early 2000s I can't remember when that show was on. Maybe you can still find it.
Fernando Lamas was married to E.W.
Gimme a C.... a bouncy C🤣
My take on this story….Lucy was a narcissist that needed to get her fix on a long flight across country.
Impossible not to love Marty 💕
I was born in 1975. And I'm lucky as hell that I love Lucy reruns were on TV every day still when I was coming up.
Okay. And what relevance does that have to the topic?
Him acting like he was kicking the seat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
two of the funniest guys in the biz. whatever the biz is.
To the thinga mcjigger ! Martin short is honestly one of the funniest guys ever.
I can only imagine what that level of fame does to a person over time, but there are a lot of similar stories out there about her acting like that in her later years. It's well known that she was a perfectionist and a bit of a diva at the height of her fame, so it stands to reason that the diva in her was at odds with the fact that she was getting old and the television industry was moving on without her. Going from being young and having the biggest TV show in America to attempting a failed comeback in the 80's and getting canceled after like 7 episodes has to be a pretty big blow to the ego. Either way, just be nice to people.
Lucile Ball strikes me as someone who knew how to be funny professionally but wasn't funny personally. And by the early 80's, her kind of professional funny had passed its expiration date.
you don’t know anything about her or martin short. she was the most famous actress at the time and btw she wasn’t young when she started lucy, she was 40. and she was married to a cheater and having to raise her kids and make all the money to support them herself. also, martin short is super annoying. he’s loud, never stops talking and is always at a 10. the fact that he would think lucille ball would recognize him in the 80s is laughable and shows what a huge ego he has. give her a break geez
@@double6ixes sensitive much?
@@double6ixes I believe Short's story. Lucile Ball could be very impatient with people in public - & she was famous for it. This isn't the only story I've heard over the years about her getting over the top angry at someone she felt annoyed by. Her boorish behavior here had everything to do with her self perceived super star status & oversized ego & nothing at all to do with her marriage, her raising of her children, or her means of financial support. Plenty of people have personal & professional issues with similarity to hers and never behave toward others as she sometimes did. By the time of this flight, it's clear she had become, & gotten away with being when it suited her, a selfishly entitled, thoughtless bully, which is sad.
@@lakemichigan6598 It probably hurt seeing none of the new stars having to go through a lot of the hard work she put in, not having to prove themselves as hard, not having to work LIVE for years.. she probably rightfully felt she deserved a free ride, and I imagine everyone would have been happy to give it to her, but entitlement doesn't usually stay in the fair zone does it. Plus nothing fair about getting old, she probably FELT something kicking her.
Has there ever been another person so excited to be in show biz? Maybe Liberace (for those old enough to remember). Their unbridled joy is so much fun to watch!
I laughed way too hard at this
Martin short is great ! I loved him on SNL at the time great cast during the very early 80s . Only murders in building is great too
I’d love to have dinner with both those guys. Genuinely funny people.
Luci, you gotta Lotta 'splainin' to do....
In an interview, Lucy’s daughter said the same thing. She more diplomatic…but she said her dad was a sweetheart…and her mother was tough as nails.
My grandmother used to babysit Lucille Ball in Jamestown NY. I thought wow! She said she was a brat.
Lucille Ball was born in 1911...When was your grandmother born????????????????
You must be in your 70s or 80s yourself to have a grandmother that used to babysit Lucille Ball as she babysat Lucille Ball then this must’ve been the late 1910s early 1920s
@@johnfd0210Again, a stupid remark. Is this just how you roll?
My father was born in 1913. My grandmother could have been Lucy's babysitter, too. But she didn't live anywhere near Jamestown.
I was born when my dad was in his forties. I was a toddler when his mother died. My oldest brothers and sisters could have heard stories like that. Some if them are still alive and in their 70's. I am 60-ish.
Plugging the Spiderwick Chronicles at the end of this clip is the cherry on top of this clip.
Imagine getting john candy angry.
His family and friends have said the character he played that was most like his real self was Uncle Buck. Who was the one Candy character who did have a bit of an edge if someone was in the wrong.
She didn't. Marty's bs misogynistic story did.
@@biegebythesea6775 hmmm new 'sign on' no sub support; fOllOw
mis gyn ..tory do let us ALL in on your next coherent thought
open minds such refreshing comments
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😂😂😂 Oh how I adore Martin Short. He is one of the funniest, wittiest people I've ever seen.
It would have been epic if John Candy, Bill Murray and Martin Short hunted down and confronted Lucille Ball.
I kept expecting the story to end with Lucy laughing and saying "No, I was just messing with you."
Guess he was spitting in Conan's face everytime..Oooo
She had her issues. But she brought me so much enjoyment and laughter, and I am grateful.
Lucille Ball was banned from the three major airlines because of her drinking.
Wow. She got into drinking because of Desi right?
Maybe she was mean when she drank?
hahaha always such a great storyteller.
Just came across this for the first time and find it so hilarious since I just started watching I Love Lucy after many years of only catching a few minutes of it now and then. Seeing the show and hearing Martin Short's story makes me think that she is like the old character in the Mrs. Maisel series, or maybe she just liked f'ing with people. Imagine if that were the case. "Shut up you little boy", lol
It’s so vindicating learning what I have about my mom and then hearing this about the person she idolized 😂
Martin short is 71 now and he looks no different than he did here in 08. He literally is the real Clifford lol
*figuratively
@@danman6669 literally literally now has two definitions in the dictionary because we use it this way.