Why White Zombie Broke Up & Will Never Reunite
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2023
- Why 90's Era group White Zombie Broke Up
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Formed in 1985, White Zombie’s sound would undergo a metamorphosis during their career from Noise Rock to more heavy metal sound achieving a lot of success during the early to mid 90’s. But by the end of the decade the band called it quits. Today, let’s talk about why the band broke up.
Rob Zombie spent his formative years in Hav (hay)erhill, Mass., a depressed industrial outpost where zombie spent most of his time hanging out at cemetirers;
Zombie would be pretty anti-social as a kid having different interests from his peers telling the LA Times “I grew up with really normal, straight parents, but they let me and my brother do anything we wanted to do. They took us to see ‘A Clockwork Orange’ and ‘Texas Chainsaw Massacre.’ I remember seeing, like, ‘Phantom of the Opera’ when I was 5 years old.” He would spend eight hours a day watching TV and it soon became an obsession for the future musician with him literally watching anything that was broadcast on TV and he would memorize the tv schedule for the week. This eventually led him down the road of making his own super 8 films.
Apart from television, Zombie would develop a taste for larger than life musical acts including Kiss, Blue Oyster Cult and Alice Cooper. Couple this with his love of the DIY ethos of punk rock and Rob Zombie had the basic blueprint for White Zombie.
The band would form when bassist Sean Yseult and frontman Rob Zombie both met while attending the Parsons school of design. The band’s first drummer was also a student at the same school. Yseult would reveal in the book Louder THan Hell “Rob & I were both oddballs. I think we were drawn to each other. We started the band within a month of meeting and basically lived together for seven years. We both had dyed black hair, he had a stenciled misfits leather jacket and i had a bunch of animal bones tied onto a necklace” They would date but break up during the early 90’s with Yseult telling the chicago tribune "The whole band and the business just got so much bigger than any relationship," The band would have a variety of drummers during this time and found a guitarist named J (Jay Yuenger) who went by the name J.
White Zombie would be the amalgamation of two scenes the noise rock scene of new york which included bands like Sonic Youth and the hardcore scene in DC including minor threat, bad brains and dave grohl’s pre-nirvana band scream. To Rob he had the goal of not only giving fans a spectacular music video for there songs, but also be able to give fans an equally as impressive live show rigging their own pyro.
The band would sign to label Caroline records who put out their first two album 1987’s soul crusher and 1989’s make them die slowly.
But the road to gain recognition was a long one. The band’s first release 1987’s soul crusher seemed to go unnoticed or was misunderstood with Yseult revealing in louder than hell People didn’t really get it. We would play a lot of those things together. We would play this really heavy music in clubs in the east village and all these hipsters just stared at us and scratched their heads. ” The reviews echoed a similar sentiment, but it was the band’s detractors that drove Rob Zombie to push forward. And while the sales didn’t reflect what was to happen soon the group’s first album found an audience with some accomplished musicians at the time including Kurt Cobain, Iggy Pop, and Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth.
The band soon built up a crowd of followers at venues including CBGB’s and started playing metal clubs widening their audience. .
By the early 90’s they would soon nab a recording contract with major label Geffen Records and the band would move out west to Los Angeles.
The group’s first record for Geffen La Sexercisto Devil Music Volume 1 which came out in march of 1992 would be a slow burn. Entertainment Weekly would publish an article in October of 1993 that highlighted that the album had moved only about 75,000 copies before one of singles welcome to planet motherfers was featured on the mtv hit show beavis and butthead.
Rob would tell entertainment weekly ”The record immediately started picking up in markets where we never played, like Wyoming and Missouri-places where Bea
White zombie>Rob Zombie Agree?
I think most people agree lol
Hard agree!
Absolutely agree! Rob Zombie just didn't scratch that itch
👍 The solo stuff don't have that magic.
Yip
White Zombie together is levels above Rob's solo stuff.
I 10000% agree. It was a nose dive after that. Dragula was basically the last really good thing he did and it just sounded like a White Zombie song.
Agreed I think La Sexorcista and astrocreep rivals some of panteras stuff
I Agree, this has always been the case for me. Everytime I listen to Rob it's only a matter of time before White Zombie comes on
@@PhillipMULLET facts
One of the best bands of the time and he tanked it to do goofy nonsense
WZ had such a cool rhythmic quality to them that just disappeared with the solo stuff. Such a shame, Astro-creep is still one of my favourite metal albums.
Yes, but zombies solo stuff took samplings and industrial/horror ambience to the next level.
Rob's solo stuff is all 4/4 pop metal. It's very limited.
Astro Creep is the only Album you really need to hear from White Zombie..
Rob Zombies solo material sucks jus as hard as his last 2 or 3 films.
@juri_xiii9977 not true.
Astro-Creep is so good. It's a shame we never got a follow up. Hellbilly Deluxe is really good too, but everything after was meh.
I saw White Zombie open up for Pantera in '92. Still one of the best shows I've ever been to 🤘🤘🍻
PanterA White Zombie twice in on er on Astro Creep and either Trendkill or 101 Proof... Once in the Summer w ExHxGx and once in the winter w AxCx. Banging that head like 1985!
Saw that show too in '93 except Megadeth was with them also headlining. The sod was flying that night at Pine knob! Best show ever
@@beastontheroad If seth was alive today he'd call phil a giant liberal pussy. and I dont blame him.. went from one of the mentally strongest guys on the planet to watching and supporting AtheismIsUnstoppable, that soy bitch and praising him.
Was that '92? I saw that line up in L.A. But I thought it was '91?? Saw Pantera open for Skid Row in L.A. at about the same time also. Good times! /../,
Apparently I was at the show where Pantera called them out for lip syncing and that pretty much ended the tour and band, but we left most of the way through Pantera and missed that part. I did think the WZ stage show was very good but the concert sounded like it could be the album and I didnt know for years it was actually lip syncing.
Sean Yesult is still my biggest inspiration to pick up bass. She wrote such groovy lines and hooks those WZ albums still hold up more than a lot of metal from the era.
I would go to their concerts just to see her play base and watch her! I saw w.z 7 times on lasexorcisto tour for Her 😂
Nice!
Well, if it makes any difference, I thought all the techno stuff was garbage. I used to blast their rock and roll stuff, More Human than Human was more bullshit than music.
@@coryphillips7945 absolutely agree 💯
@@coryphillips7945💯💯
I've never listened to a Rob Zombie song and thought "that's a cool guitar riff." But in high school guitar class we were all trying to play White Zombie' s Thunder Kiss '65.
Great bassline, as with 'Black Sunshine'.
so you dont like John 5 then? Zombie didnt write shit lol
@@nwerd7584 Not a fan of John5, his guitar work is very bland. I only liked his session guitar work with Rob Halfords Two.
@@alucard6919 Im not a big fan outside of the older zombie stuff hes on. But so many people I encounter somehow think Rob is his own guitarist, and dont know it is or was John 5. im not sure if he still is as he was persuing solo stuff again.
John 5 didn't play on any legitimate Rob Zombie hits, that was Riggs. John 5 played on the albums nobody bought.
I saw White Zombie play live twice. Two of the best shows I have ever seen! I'll take White Zombie over Rob Zombie any day! 🤘😝🤘
Word same here WZ over RZ any day
Hands down. His techno crap was disappointing and I do not understand the allure at all.
Weird....because when I saw them in Saginaw, MI. Like 96'. I literally wanted to throw my albums out the window it was so bad....at least Rob. He's terrible live.
@@ryanfreeborn4252 Saw them that same year in Montreal and it was awesome! To be fair, Rob has a lot of burn to his voice but that's about it. He's not the worlds greatest frontman. Kind of why I don't like his solo stuff.
Funny. I saw that combo TWICE. Rob LOST his voice when he sang Welcome to Planet MF, and got BOOED off stage! Pantera came in and finish, blew away the crowd. The second time, that band didn't have it and again, got BOOED, thrown beer cups and tRash on stage until Pantera AGAIN, saved the show. Vancouver fans never forget.
J. Yuenger is perhaps the most underrated metal guitarists there is. His guitar intro on Soul Crusher is amazing. He and Sean should have put together their own band without Rob and his ego.
Wish he would have put out more music. Ripper.
@@samhain3824 You and me both. He had a website for a while but I never saw any music come out of it. Disappointment.
La sexorcisto was one of my best metal album of all time...i will never get tired listening to it
Mean while in this innocent looking book store……🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
@@jasonseidel9547 "meanwhile, behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore..." From an old Batman tv episode. All the voice samples from old tv shows and movies mixed in were awesome.
There was a time Beavis and Butthead could damn near make or break a band’s success.
Kip Winger has some feelings on this I'm sure lol
An evil arises in Mordor but Post Malone shall wear no armor on his shlong
@@trickyfoxx6941😅
Rob seems like an A-hole, but he may be the coolest A-hole on the planet. Sean seemed so laid back about everything including the disbandment. She just wanted to play music, and Rob wanted to play with his toys elsewhere.
No, he is way too fake and full of himself to be the coolest asshole in the world. I was a White Zombie fan and kind of liked his early solo stuff (it's simplistic but fun like a cheesy movie), and there have been brief blips of genuine artistry in his work, but his whole career is based in imitating other people's work, so everything he does seems familiar, frequently to the point where it's easy to cite specific things he's imitating, like how his early solo stuff sounds so much like a knockoff of Ministry and NIN among other things, and 'House of 1000 Corpses' is so much like Texas Chainsaw with some Rocky Horror, Spider Baby and other influences tacked on, and a bunch of standard crowd-pleasing stuff like a hot chick and gory violence. Then other stuff like 'Devil's Rejects' comes off more like a self-congratulatory 'Greatest Hits of Stuff I Didn't Make'. Then he literally remade the movie that started the slasher craze, and it was ok but he had nothing important to add, and ultimately he just did it so film history would mention him in the context of a great film that he had nothing to do with. Rob's moments of awesomeness are hugely overshadowed by his lowest motives-- getting the hottest chick, showing her off in every movie, and pretending to be 'great' by imitating great stuff while rarely making it himself.
I don't think he is even %10 cool, he's all gimmick. That's just my opinion though.
Successful people are often driven, controlling a-holes. No excuse, just an observation.
Note I said often. So " xyz is Successful and super cool to everyone" Yes, I said often, not always.
Rob is a cool dude no question.
Well it sounds like they didn’t like the toys he was playing with and what he wanted to do with them anyway. He wanted to change the music regardless of whether it was computer generated or instrumental generated sounds. They wanted to do the same old thing. So they didn’t really just want to play music, they wanted to play the same music, so it was a natural split.
I remember David Lee Roth talking about the power balance in Van Halen by saying something to the effect of “When you’re in a band called Van Halen with two brothers named Van Halen, then you’re at best, the third most important person in the band.” So I am shocked to find that a guy named Zombie controlled White Zombie.
Originally Rob went by the name Rob "Dirt" Straker. He eventually changed it to "Rob Zombie," probably because he wanted the focus to be more on him. Rob is an egomaniac, and, sadly, doesn't have that much reason to be. His solo music and his movies are okay but no great shakes. The best stuff he ever did, and probably ever will do, was with White Zombie, because those bandmates carried him a lot more than he'd ever like to admit.
When David Lee Roth started his own band, I doubt he had anyone telling him what to do with it. When you're the owner/founder of a band, it's natural that you're the one in control and not some hired musician. Why do people still freak out when they find out the leader/founder of a band is a so called "control freak"? Robert Plant has some "control freak" stories about Jimmy Page as well.
@@nunyabidness4220 He would have been a great historian relative to old film or generally in horror. hes not great at creating his own, at least anymore. Supposedly Sherri earns some blame for how Rob and her see themselves now.
My first concert was White Zombie for the Astro Creep tour. I loved them then and I love Rob now. As much as I loved White Zombie I have to say that Rob made that band. My only complaint about that dude is that he’s vegan!
@@michaelbeaumier6153Veganism truly rots the human brain! But I digress, to each their own. I stand by my words though. Buuuuttt, R.Z. is a musical treasure!
Im still blown away La Sexorcisto wasn't considered a much bigger hit, that album just had so much atmosphere and groove that it sounded like the soundtrack to a pulpy horror flick. The bass lines on that album I still play to this day to warm up because they are just so catchy.
La Sexorcisto rules and is their masterpiece! Ivan's drumming is a big part of that. Astro Creep is damn good...but La Sexorcisto is THE Mofo!
The main riff in Thrust is one of my all-time favorite guitar riffs ever.
Totally agree
That’s their best album in my opinion.
Dave Mustaine described White Zombie as "weird metal" which is the perfect term for it.
I'm sure that fans feel this way. But, I like white zombie better than Rob Zombie! Yeah, Rob has some good songs like dracula, the american nightmare, red kroovy. But white zombie just had that groove though. And there's nothing that sounds like it! Even now.
I feel like they brought dance metal to the mainstream. They fit that niche between regular metal and more industrial sounding stuff like what Killing Joke was doing at the time
They were a strange hard rock band that you'd imagine might've came out some obscure 70s psychedelic movement. At least for La Sexorcisto, it worked. When Rob started thinking he WAS White Zombie, whatever magic they had began to unravel. Rob cannot sing and is boring live. It's amazing his solo career lasted as long as it did.
totally agree
@@redghettosunIt's more about the show anyway! Plus Rob has asthma if I'm not mistaken. Which doesn't help when he runs around.
I way prefered Charlie Clouser's AstroCreep electronics, merged with WZ's Devil Music V1. Rob should have kept to that sound instead of trying to go more goth club industrial dance, but then Clouser went back to NIN, so it didn't turn out all that band. Clouser way funkier with the electronics than Rob's overuse of Supersaw and Hoover synth presets.. but it does give it a wide club sound and is catchy enough to be very popular. KMFDM still has that kind of groove sometimes, but they've done almost every style of electronic rock at some point.
Another great book is Sean Yseult's "I'm In The Band". That has a lot more to say on the matter. Way more. Totally worth it. These things really just come down to money. If he'd let them be more creative, they'd get to retain song credit and royalty, and Rob just wanted to be solo for more money and ego. It would have been nice J and Sean were able to keep the band like Black Sabbath did. Ozzy was able to get his own solo career and Sabbath was able to do great when Ozzy came back for reunion tours. If kids are familiar with Hellbilly deluxe, they are going to be familiar with White Zombie. Why does he still play Thunder Kiss and More Human? Because those are still the top selling songs and he knows it. He can't not play them. BOTH White Zombie songs! Written by J! Nothing he's said will fool anyone, it was about money and ego.
Amen!! The stuff that Rob had released since breaking up white zombie is just sad
@@igloo190 I do like a lot of zombie solo, it's a different vibe, less grindhouse and more spookshow.
I saw rob zombie a while back and every other song was a white zombie song. No exaggeration.
They played a pretty long set too.
Tons of white zombie songs.
(Side note: Sabbath with Dio is WAY better than Sabbath with Ozzy)
@@sendthis9480 Side note: Sabbath with Ozzy was WAY better than Sabbath with Dio.
@@dovleac
Some folk like singing.
Some folk like nasally whining and the sounds of a person having a stroke.
To each his own, I guess.
Jay Yuenger continues to be among my favorite guitarists. 20 years old, listened to them half my life.
he's criminally underrated.
@@CrewsOfficialprobably cant say this, but he's pretty close to being on par w/ Dime imo
@@CrewsOfficial Probably because there aren't *any* guitar solos on the White Zombie albums.
@@N0tAFed J's great and all, but Dimebag levels? Dimebag is like one of the 10 best guitarists ever.
If they DID GET BACK TOGETHER (slim to none chance), I think WZ could potentially give us the heaviest record they've ever put out
Right, but I think Rob would let us down. He’d be the one disappointing people Sean and J would bring it. I really wish they would do something very White Zombie together but find a different singer. I think there’s more to the breakup because I don’t think the producers would have to tell Sean and J to make a record without Rob . I wouldn’t be surprised if they signed some NDA and or no compete clauses hoping to keep the band together while giving Rob the rights sorta like Axl did GNR. If they really were sitting on an album worth of riffs and ideas? Maybe Rob deserves more credit than I give him maybe he arranged those songs? Anyway I’m team White Zombie always will be and now that I know he’s not trying to play any WZ songs I won’t bother seeing him in concert.
@@brandonjackson5865 Yeah, Rob's solo stuff is mediocre, at best. I wish Sean and J and Ivan would reunite and do their own thing, but I think they've moved on. Rob's ego would never let him be part of anything where he isn't the total focus. He wouldn't want a reunion and expose just how much better he was with that band than he is alone.
@@brandonjackson5865 I think they should just reboot White Zombie by calling themselves something else. Maybe call themselves Living Dead or something like that. Idk. They could get a vocalist that channels Rob's intensity and be every bit as good as if he was in it.
Last Year there was a reunion roundtable in Metal Injection for the 30th Anniversary of La Sexorcisto, with Yuenger, Yseult and Ivan de Prume, all of them confirmed that they aren’t on Speaking terms with Rob so the only way I see that reunion happening is with someone else singing and probably under a different name since I think Rob would try to stop them from happening.
@@Malum09 I think they should call themselves "The Sexorcists" or "Thunderkiss" or something and go ahead with it. They could always find another singer.
Saw White Zombie in a club in Austin just as they were blowing up in 1992 with La Sexorcito. The club was at capacity and almost got crushed in the front row of the mosh pit. My buddy tried to stage dive and instead got kicked in the face by bass player Sean Yseult. Good times! Thnx Beavis & Butthead for showing us stuff that doesn't suck
Sean can kick me in the face AnyTime 💯💟👅💞💋💖
Lmao!
Everything and everyone behind or around Rob is the strongest part of the presentation. I've never seen him not wind himself out dancing around the stage and sing off time. On the Astro Creep tour, he threw the band under the bus at the show we were at as if they weren't tighter than a frog's ass.
I hear Rob just wouldn’t clean out all his fast food wrappers from the back of the dragula.
I saw an interview with "the rest of the band". They all seemed so laid back and chill. They really seemed like good people. I hope they do something together.
Astro-Creep is one of only a handful of heavy albums I got into as a young dumb kid that I kept past the used CD store era. That, Testament's "Low," and Anthrax's "Sound of White Noise" pretty much defined what I thought metal should sound like in ~1994, and still rule now
95…
Sound of white noise is anthrax's best in my opinion but im not crazy bout the original singers voice
LoW is a great album
Kyuss
@@dustinledbetter5647 We’re in the minority but I agree. John Bush is by far a better singer.
During a concert a few years ago Rob Zombie played a very White Zombie heavy setlist (to my delight). Rob kept commenting how he was surprised "anyone knew those old songs" despite the fact everyone enjoyed the set much more than they would've if it was strictly RZ solo stuff. I just saw him again Friday and he still plays "Thunderkiss 65" and "More Human Than Human" but that's it 😕
Saw that show as well though it was my first time. I don’t know where he gets off saying no one knows these old songs. I went because my 14 yo daughter asked me to go. Yeah rob most of your albums are older then her, so she know all your “old” songs lol.
Yeah Rob probably has no clue that we really like white zombies shit a million times more than his shit. Probably because white zombie was an actual band and really good groove metal.
@@DamageInc86 I like some of his solo songs but love pretty much every White Zombie song. It's probably an age thing though, as music is always best when you're younger.
White Zombie had their 15 minutes of notoriety but they were already a spent force after La Sexorcisto. Rob Zombie could not hold a tune and him solo live is about as exciting as watching a homeless guy on fentanyl spin around for hours. Sean and Jay should have kept working together as White Zombie just to piss off Rob.
100%
Most of Rob's vocals LOOKED like backing tracks live. His mic was on, so he could mumble over, address the crowd, or shout YEAH, but his verses were playing when he was swinging the mic around. Maybe the show is just about asthetics over live performance?
@@memeticmnemonic a lot of bands do/did that, especially during that time. I personally don't have much of an issue with it since it's not a full-on phony deal; its ideally used to reinforce parts of songs by combining with the band that are impractical to match one to one using strictly live sound. Rob leaned on this a lot during the later WZ days but there is ample footage of him being authentic and not singing half the words. Pick your poison
@@memeticmnemonic I noticed during one of the MTV interview clips, the host points at a tape machine onstage while Rob was standing there, and it made me wonder just how much of the music was on the tape, even though there was no sound in the clip and it was so short that hypothetically it COULD have been the live-recording deck, BUT I wouldn't have put any money on that even before you gave the evidence that Rob used it as his 'fake performance' machine instead of just having the electronic rhythm track on it. I don't blame the band, they could actually play.
@@memeticmnemonic It's just laziness especially if it's done the entire set. They obviously play on a click track which makes it easier to sync everything else. If being predictable and unspontaneous is the aesthetic then Mr. Zombie is all in on it. The first and last time I saw Rob Zombie was probably around 99 and I left midway through the set.
I met them through Ivan, their drummer at the time, we both went to Art and Design H.S. Sean was really shy and sweet, Rob seemed to already have his "Larger than life" persona, but he was still approachable.
I remember being blown away by Thunder Kiss ’65, but i still never imagined they would get so big.
Ivan seemed like an incredibly cool and geeky guy in the reunion interview with Jay and Sean. They both clearly missed playing with him.
I thought “More Human Than Human” was cool, but I never thought “Astro Creep 2000” was all that great. I believed “La Sexorcisto” was a better album.
Electric Head and More Human Than Human totally kill for me.
@@applewagon253 For me, it's Super Charger Heaven off that album. That song is a wall of noise and distortion, I love it so much.
I felt the same way till I saw them live and astrocreep album live was amazing
Idk I grew up with that album. My uncle gave me a recorded cassette tape of that album. It was my first CD I ever bought myself. I used to listen to every track on a pair of huge pillowy headphones. Every track definitely has it own style and sound and something special going on. It’s your opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs, I never knew devil music ever existed until much later. I also loved super sexy swinging sounds, super charger heaven on that album was my JV basketball warm up music, we had the most badass home warmup music, other teams couldn’t handle it.
Astrocreep has an incredible mix and monster guitar tones but La Sexorcisto has the songs and riffs and the riffs man . I Am Legend is probably my favorite WZ song. I think Rob wanted all the loot is what it ultimately boils down to, J and Sean were the sound of the the band and no one sounded like them. Yet Rob’s solo albums are very White Zombie riff wise, without J’s riffs Rob probably never gets over. He tried to pull a Danzig,but forgot he didn’t write the music and his vocals on Astrocreep were extremely lazy in my opinion yeaahh yeah yeah !
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YEAH!
The rest of the band asked Rob to quit saying “yeah” so much and he said “no”
Funny! I'll be waiting for the Hetfield/Zombie "Yeah!" compilation.
Comedy gold.
I remember Rob said he wouldn’t do a reunion because it would suck….wouldn’t be any worse than your movies.
I know, he's stupid. It wouldn't suck. I've played with ivan a few times. He can totally still play everything! He's such a solid drummer.
I think it says a lot about Rob how all of the bandmates have very little nice to say about him lol
ALL!
Rob wanting creative control and his breakup with Sean was the end of WZ. I doubt they would ever reunite, but would be sick if they did.
Let Sleeping Corpses Lie is aptly named. They're never getting back together.
I've always maintained that WZ was better than RZ. But is sounds like Rob really loves him some Rob, so he's not gonna share the spotlight with anyone. But some magic was lost when WZ ended.
The band would no longer take part in Rob’s metamorphosis into Ministry
Ministry is certainly doing a much better job than he is. His solo career can't even hold a candle to ministry. Very unfortunate
The minestrg that opened up for his show this year Toronto 2023?
saw WZ open for Anthrax in august '93...with Voivod as the first act...great show....
I saw them with Trouble and Pantera. Too bad Trouble wasn't the headliner... RIP Eric Wagner
Those two White Zombie albums are definitely still some of my favorite music ever
Rob Zombie's ego got in the way. He had a lot of really bad ideas, and the others were in the way of them. Turns out the others were right, because Rob's "dance remix" White Zombie electronica junk is just about unlistenable. Sean and J are super-cool and got treated very poorly by Rob. Rob was downright cruel to Sean, but she took it like a trooper for the sake of the band. But toward the end he wouldn't even acknowledge the rest of the band's presence or speak to them at all. Rob likes to blame the rest of the band, but it was all him, being bratty and petty.
I still have an original copy of Soulcrusher on vinyl, and have a really nice note Sean wrote me on the back of a flyer when I asked about some merchandise.
Bit of a tool that guy
That's what I heard as well. Guess he's pissed quite a few people off just from his arrogance and attitude alone.
I read a lot of stories about him being a diva on tour. Most of those stories ended with something like "the rest of the band was cool but Rob Zombie was a huge dick".
Devil Music and Astro Creep are 2 of the best metal albums of the 90's.I first saw Hellbilly Deluxe the day it was released by judging the cover l thought it was gonna be another awesome album,sadly it was more of a horror themed techno album.
I saw these guys in 96 with Pantera and The Deftones.
Their live shit is so visually explosive. Like a literal acid trip come to life. They had blacklight body paint on that looked like skeletons, when they shut off the lights and turned on the blacklight it was absolutely mind blowing
You saw Dime !
@@maxjudge2318, I will never forget it. Especially since it was only 5 days before my oldest daughter was born, so it was my very last show as a not-dad....lol
Anyone else remember: Before WZ blew up, their song Welcome to Planet MF, was featured in a footwear commercial!
It had viking looking guys grabbing electric guitars and playing Whit Zombie rifs, and even used some of the gutteral moans/yells from aforementioned Planet MF song.
Don't remember the brand name, but their slogan was: "remember your roots, know your boots"
That was my first time hearing Zombie. They took off on MTV about a year after that.
I remember when they broke up they were scheduled to play near my hometown. It was crushing when the concert was cancelled, only to latter hear a month or 2 latter that they were officially breaking up. Advanced ticket holders were latter invited back to a free concert dubed "The Zombie Stomp" with Ozzy.
I saw White Zombie several times. The first two shows were club gigs before they really blew up.They were an incredible band to see live. I only recently watched a live stream from a year ago with Sean, Ivan and Jay. Rob refused the invite. They clearly enjoyes catching up with each other and I learned for the first time how the breakup really went down. I saw Rob live a few times over the years but never enjoyed those shows like I did Zombie.
Very well done vid. The only thing I can add is on the eye hate God, white zombie, pantera tour. Deftones played on that tour. Atleast at one city. And I can tell you that Rob zombie had people handing out flyers about house of 1000 corpses saying it was to scary for theaters made grown men vomit and was "coming soon!" And turns out soon was 10 years or better lol.
I saw this lineup in Dayton, OH. Fabulous show.
Yeah, sure I remember that tour. It was pretty bad ass.
It was in 1995. Deftones opened in chicago, too. I was 12 years old. Still got the ticket stubs.
Yup.and every ozzfest they ever had.15 yrs later,a stupid fkn movie comes out
"La Sexorcisto" is a *BRUTAL-MONSTER!*
"Like a Bad-Dog!"
I never thought they broke up so much as Rob fired everyone.
White Zombie carved out their own unique niche with their "boogie metal." As Rob as continued to release more music that sound grew more repetitive. But I don't think anyone has done "boogie metal" as well.
lol what? unless your separating from groove metal its always been a genre since at least exhorders first album. and most of what youre talking about is in production, their old eps are just borderline blackened thrash.
It's called groove metal my guy.
@@xczechr And 99% of people would have never heard it if not for Zombie, MY GUY 🙄
Boogie metal sounds way better than groove metal.
White Zombie was my favorite band in the mid 90s and Rob’s solo album in 98 and 99. That and the game “Silent Hill” will forever be tied together in my memory
Being a female bassist in the 90s was a rough gig - WZ, Pixies, Smashing Pumpkins
Bolt Thrower.
The Breeders
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Jawbox
@@menom7 yeah the had it rough part deals with the Pixies for Kim, Breeders were a victory
My first ever concert was white zombie opening up for anthrax on the sound of white noise tour. I was in 6th grade and am semi related to John Bush so we got to go back stage. There i saw Rob Zombie holding court backstage and i am not exaggerating when i tell you Rob had 3 beautiful women on each arm. It left a lasting impression on me as a 6th grader lmao. Awesome first concert
Got to see them in 96 with the Toadies. Awesome show!
Man that bass player was hot😂
She still is IMO.
Great body, butter face
Sean always seemed like a super cool tomboy rocker chick.
White zombie was awesome. I have the biggest white zombie audio collection including test Pressing of first ep from85
"Give them an equally impressive live show"
Except for the part where his singing doesn't suck when he's live, for which he is INFAMOUS.
I interviewed Sean on my podcast back in 2011 or so. She was so kind and gracious. Great stories. Sexorcisto and Astro Creep were a huge part of my early teens. Great band.
I am probably in the minority in that I liked WZ as much as I liked RZ's solo work. Very unique, 90s metal sound that I call Zombie Metal.
A lot of bands owe a debt to Beavis and Butthead. Without them we would've never heard them, or other bands. Rock on B&B! 🤟😝🤟❤️🎸
Edit: BTW, I like your new format of you showing your face. Makes it more personal.
I figured Rob would be a douche.
All except winger
GWAR!!!
@@lewieanderson6579 Oh yeah, they definitely sucked! Poison, Slaughter, Warrant etc. etc. ruined true hair metal.
So true, that's how I got exposed to CARCASS!!
I got Soul Crusher when it came out and it sounded like if you left Metallica's "Kill 'Em All" record in the back window of a '79 Camaro on a 99° day, then played it on a half broken turntable.
It was amazing, is what I'm saying
I always found them the best example of that mid 90s groove metal sound loved the riffs and the breakdowns They made you wanna move.
I miss J. He was my idol. One of the reasons I sold my drum kit and bought a guitar......way back in 94
La Sexorcisto still one of my favorites from the 90’s. Such great grooves, unique vibe. Rob seemed like one of the first celebrities I can think of making themselves in a brand.
And say what you will , personally I really dig his movies . People want to slay his version of Halloween ? I love the first one he put out . I think its one of the best Halloween movies ever done and I grew up as a horror freak as a kid in the 80s !!!!
More humid than humid 😂😂
I saw Rob Zombie in concert twice, once in Ozzfest and once where he headlined a show in Seattle. I was a young kid at the time and I went with my friends, so to me I was having the time of my life. I found out later that one of my friends uncles was sound tech guy on Ozzfest and worked with Rob on dozens of shows. Said he was one of the biggest jerks he'd ever worked with. And I've seen pictures of him working with Sebastian Bach lol.
I asked for any story or any incident specifically with Rob that would give him that impression, and he just said "I don't ever have to work with him again, and Im ok with that."
I don't know what that means or what interaction he had with Rob to give him that lasting impression, but he genuinely did not like Rob.
La Sexorcisto is an underrated masterpiece.
I saw WZ in '96 with Pantera and they were insane! Saw Rob with Korn in '00 and it was just a show and the music took second fiddle. He could never capture the magic of the music he had with WZ. It'd be great if they did a reunion tour and hit the road with Pantera again
LOVED WZ...way more than his solo stuff
I played in cover bands growing up in the 90s, Every night we would end with Thunder Kiss 65 and people would go crazy, we got kicked out of several clubs because the crowd destroyed the poace LMAO
I actually have a video of me screwing up the bass line to Thunder Kiss 65 on my channel lol🤘🏻
Unpopular opinion; Zombie might have come up with the sound and vibe, but White Zombie pulled it off better than Rob does solo.
Read the comments here, your opinion seems to be the consensus.
@@xczechr when I commented it was less decisive
I have a very difficult time thinking that Rob Zombie isn't trying to fulfill a certain aesthetic ideal both visually and melodically. He may not be trying to impress the critics, but he definitely has a standard somewhere.
kind of really obvious in his films
His aesthetic is just a copy of Ed "Big Daddy" Roth's art. His movies are always just copies of old movies from the 70's like "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and "Rosemary's Baby". He's derivative as hell.
@@HarryBuddhaPalm so are Tarantino and Rodriguez, but people love them for some reason
@@MrTaxiRob I despise Tarantino. He's a straight up plagiarist. When he made "Reservoir Dogs", he straight up ripped of a Hong Kong movie called "City of Fire". He stole a bunch of shit for "Pulp Fiction", too. He's a piece of shit.
@@MrTaxiRob Tarantino has a flair for writing dialogue and characters and Rodriguez has a flair for shooting action. Rob has zero flair for anything and is just derivative, especially with his movies.
I am never disappointed after watching your videos dude! Rock on! \m/ \m/
Another great video. Really enjoy your channel man. Thanks 🤘🏼😎
I appreciate that!
I still can't get over Rob Zombie complaining about a nearby skatepark. Not very rock n' roll.
Basically Rob Zombie said...I'm the star! ...If he didnt have his movie career and only had his music to ride on we would have had a reunion by now cause his solo stuff is no good.
WZ was ALWAYS ahead of Their time! ONE from the escape from LA soundtrack was amazing and I fell in love with them even more after that track!
Rob isn't allowed to do a reunion with White Zombie. His wife would beat him within an inch of his pathetic life, because she's the man. LOL
Astro Creep is a perfect album and still gets play from me today. (Especially around Halloween).
WZ, the band, was something else live, even if not everyone on stage could keep the same pace throughout the set (I wouldn’t have wanted to open for Pantera in the 90s, that’s for sure).
Man, Rob Zombie put on the best show I’ve seen in my life. Love that dude.
Man, more human than human and electric head part 2 were playing on everything '96 on.
I personally liked that Rob wanted to dive into electronic and sampling. It' sounded good to me. But also personally I like White Zombie better than Rob's solo stuff. However I still like a lot of Rob's solo stuff.
White Zombie > Rob Zombie
Astro Creep, Antichrist, Adrenaline, Peachy, Spiral, Aenima, Evil Empire - mid90s fucking rocked
My oldest brother used to go to their shows in Beverly and Boston right before he was signed. He got to chill with all of them many times.
It comes down to money. Rob doesn't need them so he goes his own way and keeps most of the dough in the process.
Went to see Rob one time. Walked out after 3 songs. Definitely not W.Z.
They should still reunite they are a f’in awesome band. Astro Creep 2000 🔥
I saw White Zombie live right at the end. Like a month later they broke up. Then in 1998 Rob put out his first solo album. It was then I realized my favorite band was no more.
So why haven't you covered newsted .. Jason newsted after Metallica and Jason newsted chophouse band and newsted and other acts he has done
Everything jason has done sucked very badly, expect jetsem & flotsam and even they where not very good
Do you have to open up graves to find girls to fall in love with?
Jun jun... jun jun
Zita Johann to David Manners 32 Mummy.
I saw them early 90's at Medusa's in Chicago; great live show. Industrial clubs ❤'d their '65 remix.
I actually saw White Zombie in a small club in Hadley Mass. Katinas capacity was like 400 or so. Awesome club, sad its gone. Every Sunday night they had Heavy Metal acts. I saw White Zombie, Pantera on Cowboys tour, Testament 93 with Green Jello (yep before the lawsuit) and a favorite since, Pro Pain. Dieicide, DRI, Nuclear Assault, just to name a few.
Haverville, Massachoosis? Sorry Im from Massachoosis, couldnt resist.
Haverhill - say Hay Vrull Mass a choo sits !
Or Masshole or Mass a 2 shits, to name a few.
Is that the local to New England Deicide or the national band Deicide. I saw the local band open for Megadeth at the Living Room in Providence back in the mid 80s. Great band. Fellow Massachusetts resident, New Bedford.
The 1st album I ever bought on CD was La Sexorcisto and it’s still in my top 10 favorite albums from the era. Sean Yesult is still my metal chick crush! 😂
I liked Rob’s solo stuff in the beginning but I miss the WZ gritty sound/look, imo it had more of the horror/spook show vibe than the stuff Rob’s doing solo has just become so mainstream Hollywood overproduced CGI and electronic sounding/looking. Thankfully his efforts as a film maker have been outstanding!
Man Rob Zombie and Korn was my first ever live show and I'll never forget it! lol
I remember that tour.
@@selw0nk i think it was "The sick and twisted tour"?
@@rougeneon1997 I think so but I thought it was before that.
Saw them with Pantera back in '96 at the Starlake Amphitheater outside of Pittsburgh.
PHENOMENAL show.
He spit on what made him. I always knew he was a punk. I could just see it. I'll listen to WZ, not his solo trip of narcissism.
It's such a shame that Rob Zombie is the weak link in the White Zombie chain. Imagine if we could've gotten the last 25 years of WZ albums instead of that trash that is his solo stuff. Everything Rob has done after WZ is not even in the same ballpark as his short stint with WZ, and that includes his lame movies.
White Zombie were. A huge influence on me as a musician. The chuggy guitars. dirty vocals. Random movie samples. Them as well as Pantera are basically whom I’ve ripped a ton of my riffs from.
the one white zombie show i saw in 1995 (or 6) was in chicago at a university auditorium. great show, loud as hell. while rob puts on a good show, i look back at that concert as a memorable event. had a fantastic time.
It's a shame Rob's huge ego destroyed White Zombie. After having seen his re-make of "Halloween", I can say, he ain't all that. Stick to music, Rob, your movies SUCK.
Astro Creep: 2000 is the album that solidified my love of metal.
I actually loved Hellbilly deluxe when it first came out but it was like a sugar rush, a quick high and then gone. I haven't really listened to Rob's solo stuff much but White Zombie is a pretty regular thing, that says it all really.
Black Sunshine was my theme song back then....