Can you imagine sitting in the cinema and realizing that in the scene, Arnold is actually the good guy :O Because the trailer didn't spoil the plot. Must've been amazing.
When Terminator 2 was re-released to cinemas in 3D I told my girlfriend that we were going to see it! She then told me that she’d not seen any terminator movie! So before watching the second at the cinema I showed her the first Terminator... she was sufficiently terrified of Arnold’s Terminator and when she asked what T2 was about I just said “it’s the same as the first terminator but now there’s TWO machines” ... I did not say that Arnold was now the protector. So walking out of the theater after T2 she told me she was completely under the impression that both Arnold and the T1000 were after John in the first act. She said she was watching the film and seeing Arnold ride around looking for John and was completely sure he was trying to find and kill him and loved the “twist” ... I love this film for so many reasons and this is just one of them.
I was 10 when I saw T2 opening day. But pretty much everybody knew Arnold was the good guy. Even the making of Terminator 2 on Showtime went deep into the plot. The movie plays it kind of ambiguous to a degree, but there are plenty of ques that let you know Arnold is the good guy. But I understand what you are saying. The later sequels gave away some actual plot twist. Regardless, it was an incredible experience watching everything unfold for the first time!
I was there, 10 years old at the cinedomes. The entire audience gasped in the mall scene where the T1000 and Arnie fought. I remember holding my breath as JC ran through the corridors. This movie changed my life. When it came out on video i watched every scene and analyzed every part. Every hit, crash and shot were visceral. It felt so real. Never had I loved something on screen so much, never had I been so wrapped up and engaged in a film. I used to do Sarah's nuclear nightmare monologue at auditions. Nothing since has touched me quite the same way as T2.
I saw T2 before anything else in the franchise. And I originally didn't see it from the start. Ergo, I never got that big plot twist reveal. I was actually a little confused when I saw him being a bad guy in the first one.
The trailer for Terminator 2 DID spoil the plot though. If you look up the first Terminator 2 trailer in 1991 on youtube, it shows its all, with the narrator even saying, "NOW his mission is to protect him!" A real bummer actually.
@@returnedtomonkey8886 Actually, you can. Just look at him in that first scene in the movie when he's chasing down the villain. His original persona before his starts opening up to people is almost scary. Ok, I'll admit Arnold has some acting range, that's obvious. However it's not very broad. Regardless of the character he portrays, this character will have many common traits to every other he's portrayed in a similar genre.
Tom Cruise should relax more and stop wanting to be the hero of his films. I was astonished when I saw him in Collateral. His performance is masterful. Menacing and magnetic.
Years after both Terminator and T2 came out my parents showed me them. They didn’t spoil anything. I was watching the T2 act and I was literally on the edge of my seat thinking, holy crap, this kid is dead. What are they gonna- “Wait!” I literally said it out loud. “Arnold’s a good guy!?” My parents both smiled at me and I was immediately hooked. This is how you make a perfect sequel.
you had the advantage of not having trailers or vhs/dvd synopsis spoiling things for you thankfully. Even having it spoiled before watching it, it is still one of the best films ever made though.
I remember this feeling as well. And the scene that marked me the most is when John and Arnold go to find Sarah. That moment when she has PTSD and flee toward the T1000 to see something even more horrific to finish with the cult car scene... Perfect
no no, you're wrong. To make a perfect sequel you MUST kill that kid and switch him with someone else. Clearly this is the right way because they spent millions of dollars to realize this fan fiction. Right??!?!?
When Terminator 2 was re-released to cinemas in 3D I told my girlfriend that we were going to see it! She then told me that she’d not seen any terminator movie! So before watching T2 at the cinema I showed her the first Terminator... she was sufficiently TERRIFIED of Arnold’s Terminator and when she asked what T2 was about I just said “it’s the same as the first terminator but now there’s TWO machines” ... I did not say that Arnold was now the protector. So walking out the theater after T2 she told me she absolutely loved the film and she was completely under the impression that both Arnold and the T1000 were after John in the first act. She said she was watching the film and seeing Arnold ride around looking for John and was completely sure he was trying to find and kill him and loved the “twist” ... ... And I remember vividly, watching that classic scene in the mall hallway when John is trapped between the T1000 and the T800! I had goosebumps! Seeing this all on the big screen and just waiting for that amazing “get down”!! ... I love this film for so many reasons and this is just one of them.
I like your story. Terminator 2 has been one of my favorite movies of all time ever since saw it in the cinemas back then (although I wasn't legally allowed to see it when it was originally released). However, my wife hasn't seen T2 yet but we saw the first Terminator together. So I am really excited to see what she thinks of this masterpiece and how she reacts to the "twist" you mentioned.
Watched it recently with my 13 yo daughter to see if it was actually that awesome or if I just remembered it as awesome because I was a teenage boy at the time. Turns out it is 100% still one of the greatest action movies of all time. She teared up a little at the last thumbs up scene ❤️
Martin Fagerfjäll that’s brilliant to hear mate! Reminds me of the first time I seen T2 when I was about that age, think I was about 11 and I watched it with my dad too. It was the first Arnold film I’d ever seen and I’ve been a fan ever since. It’s just one of those films that’s so good that I genuinely believe that your daughter will remember watching with you for a long time too! 🙂
1980s James Cameron knows how to do action movies , current day James Cameron is off his meds , for reference see Terminator Genesis where he takes a huge dump on his previous work
In T1 Sarah is fighting for her life to press the button to smash the Terminator but in T2 she looks sad and doesn't want to press the button that destroys the Terminator. Nobody ever seems to notice that little reversal.
Through the relationship of his son with Arnold, she has learned the real value of human life as well, and the value of her own relationship with John :')
@@ginshuhime how about when Robert Patrick stares at the silver mannequin in the store for a few seconds before he continues? To me, my mind thinks he thinks the mannequin is another terminator
We noticed it, its in the character development of the T2 terminator and Sarahs words, along with what you stated. We just probably didn't put it into words.
Sadly there is so much they can still do with that world. Go into the future and the war with Skynet. I want a John Connor who has troops enhanced with cybernetics to level the playing field facing against the machine armies of Skynet. End the time travel side of things and focus on the future war. Salvation was a decent attempt, I would love to see another shot at it with a good writer, director and actors. Pretty much, keep it far away from Disney
The point you make about the machines looking “not real” is such a great point. I was terrified of those things when I watched this movie as a kid and it was because they looked so inhuman.
Honestly this. When I saw those jerky moving machines with big red glowing eyes as a kid I was scared shitless, but if I saw the new ones I'd be like "that's cool I guess"
When I compare CGI to practical effects I always resort to The Thing vs The Thing (2011) the 80’s film is every bit of terrifying while the 2011 film is almost to the point of boring. Nothing real about it
the imperfection leaves one with a concern of "what is going to happen", like when Miles was riffled with bullets, very sad and painful to watch. The terminators felt like merciless monsters ready to kill. But with CGI, there is a sense of excitement even at the most horrible violent scene, because it comes off as fake graphics. The terminators in CGI look more like toys and exude little sense of fright in any
The virgin Miller: "The guardrail is digital." The chad Cameron: "You see that helicopter going under a freeway overpass? That's a helicopter going under a freeway overpass."
@@asddasdasdasdadsa not "too much", but badly. If i put on some bare minimum makeup onto my hypothetical girlfriend, she'd end up looking way worse. If a professional makeup artist put on 500quid worth of makeup onto my hypothetical girlfriend, she'd look amazing, because the makeup artist can use the makeup well, whilst i can't. Same concept with film makers and CGI. Lot of infinity war is full CGI, and it looks and is amazing, because the film makers used the CGI well. Then you get some fairly minimimal CGI in a lot of low budget horror films and it looks pretty shit, because A it wasn't very good CGI, and B it wasn't used well.
To that I throw you Lego: The Movie. It was made almost entirely via CGI apart from a few shots. Yet the world feels very much real. Why? Because the animation of the characters, their movement was deliberately altered to look like a stop-motion animation. Another cool thing is Lego bricks in this movie have little wrinkles, scratches that a kid would produce by reusing them. Despite being made on the computer, Lego: The Movie has some of the most believable animation, because it's intentionally imperfect, just like the practical effects of Termination 2.
I'll add on with Dunkirk. While yes, it is fantastic everything or almost everything you see in that film is real, it does compromise what could have been. The beach and the town are my two biggest gripes. the town is too well structured (the real Dunkirk was bombed to rubble by that point) and the beach claims to have over 400,000 British, French, and colonial soldiers waiting for evacuation or annihilation, but all we see is a massive beach with a few hundred or thousand soldiers in lines. no activity and the feeling of resentment to wards CG characters/scenes makes it feel empty and lifeless. The History Buffs channel covers way more eloquently than i do in their film review of Dunkirk
What they apparently also did with the LEGO movie, they animated the characters and objects only in ways that would be possible for real LEGO pieces to move.
The quality is not exactly due to it being "stop-motion like", but rather... to be designed to remind the viewer of something real. In animation, you either create a very specific design line and root it in something real (like pieces of lego and the way they move), or just go all-in and make something entirely stylistic with no mix-up on reality whatsoever (like the whole -- and beautiful -- Arcane series)
The original Terminator movie has Kyle Reese, who is not just a desperate man but also one who weeps to see how beautiful the world was, and is a kind of shabby, post-apocalyptic knight-errant trying to protect a queen.
Salvation was pretty nice too, at least in my opinion. It wasnt as good as T1 and T2 but it is the only Terminator that plays after judgement day and I loved the idea of the machine-human hybrid who didnt even knew what he was. The character arc of finding out and accepting it, was great.
The twist in terminator 2 really got me when i finished it a few weeks ago, i was trying to piece together who the T-1000 was in the beginning and how he fits into the story.. just to find out that hes the bad guy Im surprised ive never spoiled myself after all this time
Oh man. To have that kind of reveal again... I miss movies *NOT* being constantly spoiled, and not being able to avoid it no matter how hard I try... Glad the twist hasn't been ruined for others though. Fun fact: they didn't use any special effects on the T-1000. Robert Patrick was hired because he actually is a liquid metal killing machine. That, and his sweet ass lmao.
The fact Robert Patrick while doing the "Running to catch Jonh on a motorbike" scene actually ran so fast that he actually caught Furlong in that scene makes T2 so much greater for some reason.
@@kazikek2674 Me too, Salvation was good on its own. It has flaws - and much more than one. But one thing it did really good - showed T800 as a menacing figure as an unstoppable force, that cannot be questioned or bargained.
@Kayoshie Flametail Well, same did T800 in a first movie (he did only with Sarah's roommate's boyfriend, rest of the movie he was shooting) and T1000 in a second (T1000 is strong, so I guess he could have just rip uncle Bob's head apart, especially when he pinned him with metal spike). It is something in a movies that we almost cannot avoid. In Salvation John Connor would die in the beginning of the encounter - when the metal door exploded in his face :D And about throwing - Connor fly at least 5 meters with good acceleration. Realisitically he could rather break a skull or have some brain damage on impact, or break a spine. But well it's a movie.
So can I. But I think they blew the story. It should not have been bombastic and big but instead about the implications of what if a machine REALLY thought it was human. There were a few different ways that they could have played that to make it good - they did not go with any of them.
By having complex characters who make understandable decisions, innovative cinematic sequences, a plot that isn't riddled with plotholes, iconic scenes and emotional depth. It is truly a candidate for the best action movie of all time.
One small detail you missed on the first act of T2 Remember that the movie is a sequel to T1 and in that movie Arnold was the villain. The intro for Arnold in T2 was very reminicent of the original one, and if you notice it, the T1000 enters almost like Kyle, not weak, but less mechanical. My mom told me when she saw T2 in the cinema, she throught the T1000 was the hero until that twist. She wad blown away and says its still her favorite plot twist ever. Also a little nod to T1 was when Sarah encountered the T800 in that Center. My mom said she fully understood Sarah in that moment.
I watched T2 with wife and daughter recently. They kept asking me "which one is the bad one?" and I realized "holy crap!" I saw T2 when it was first released, and "spoiler culture" wasn't a thing so it was spoiled for me that Arnold was the good guy this time around. I realized how important avoiding spoilers can be because I was cheated out of the reveal that banked on the audience thinking arnold was the bad guy. Glad I got to witness it by proxy through them.
The marketing of the movie back in 1991 gave away Arnold was the good guy. I think most people who were following the build up, interviews or watched the making up knew the role reversal. I can see how some people were surprised if were not expecting it. But it certainly wasn't a situation where everyone at the theater was shocked and gasp to learn Arnold is the good guy. I think Cameron plays it close to the chest, which works great in the film. But there are certainly ques that hint at the role reversal. Arnold's opening scene is more comedic and they even play Bad to the Bone, a total light hearted moment compared to the original. And I think Patrick is so menacing from opening shot lol. It's definitely played somewhat ambiguous, but I never get that the T1000 could be the protagonist.
@@faz6877 exactly. I remember being 7 years old and being super hyped up that Arnold was gonna be the hero this time around. Its kind of mind blowing to me now to realize that Arnold is still set up as being the bad guy.
It's still great that the T1 references in T2 are genuine plot devices and not just crappy fan service. It's telling that James Cameron did much the same thing with Aliens. Hopefully he keeps it up for the second Avatar movie too.
Reeves does most of the fighting but not the stunts, he stated this several times whenever interviewers try to credit him for doing all of his own stunts.
@@axelnilsson5124 Up to T2 the franchise was great. The cracks started appearing on T3 (which recycled the formula from T2). From T5 on it's been a trainwreck
@@vegeta8169 Jurassic Park is also a masterpiece. T2 and JP still look better than today's movies. What's funny is that I was swapping through the channels, and GUESS WHAT? T2 was playing! AWESOME. Coincidence or not, it's fucking awesome. I haven't seen this movie being aired on Norwegian television (that's where I'm from) in 11 years, so this was quite the surprise. I'm happy, nevertheless.
One of the things that are overlooked about James Cameron´s early masterpieces T 1&2, Abyss and Aliens,is that his then wife,Gale Ann Hurd,had massive imput in the production and writing. After Cameron divorced her in the 90s,his movies became more and more bombastic and expensive,but you can tell that they´re lacking that special something that made them stand out. Just compare Aliens with Dances with the Smurfs AKA Avatar. Speaking of Aliens: Walter Hill was also a co-writer on this movie and contributed lots of ideas.(Walter Hill ,the guy who made The Warriors,48 Hours,Extreme Prejudice and many more kickass 80´s action filcks,that guy.) Btw. His Ex-Wife continued working as a producer on many successful movies and tv shows. Among other things, she was involved on Phase 1 of the MCU and on the early seasons of TWD.
I checked it out, obviously that explains his mediocrity after the 90s. Thanks for the info! I've always wandered how people like him and Scott were so capable and later on in their careers unable to match their skills and now I know.
@@joelmilten Honestly I just couldn't get into Avatar. Yeah, it was beautiful to look at, but gorgeous visuals don't do much for me. Especially if the movie is literally "Pocahontas in Space"
Interesting, similar to how George Lucas divorced his wife Marcia. Then we got Han Shot First and the Prequels. Maybe both of them were really husband and wife teams that didn't do as well individually.
Yeah. Only use cgi in places where it is absolutely necessary, some cgi here and there combined with good practical sets and effects is going to blend in just fine. Do everything with cgi and the action will look fake and weightless.
I think you can make buildings and cityscapes look incredible with CGI, at least done right like in Blade Runner 2049. But when it comes to moving things, like a walking army of T800's CGI looks like shit. That shot of the T800's coming out of the watering DF is one of the worst effects in the franchise. And with a $200 million budget.
I second that. But it seems a lot of filmmakers have completely forgotten about that. I hate it when they use CGI for elements that could have been done with practical effects. It takes me out of the movie because it kills all suspension disbelief. A lot of the comic book movies are some serious offenders in this regard.
@@faz6877 A few things here: You're right, but blade Runner 2049 had a shit-ton of miniatures, including cityscapes. CGI was used as less as possible; there's still a lot, but far less than most recent blockbusters. Secondly, CGI can be great for moving things too, especially if they're not human. It's definitely a better alternative to stop-motion (like T1) or puppets, but it has do be done carefully, with a strong sense of realism, and ideally mixed with practical vfx, which takes a lot of time and budget. Usually that's where studios fuck up and rush things to a bad looking result. Good example: Jurassic Park. Bad example: Cats.
@@thisisfyne I agree. I never said BR 2049 was all CGI by any means. I just think that's a perfect example of how CGI should be used and blended with practical effects. My point was BR2049 used plenty of CGI and looks incredible. I don't feel like the last few Terminator films have tried to blend anything. I feel like it's been mostly CGI. Bad CGI
OMG ! When you said it wasnt clear in the beginning which terminator was the evil one , I felt THAT ! That was the exact thought I had while watching it for the 1st time. When Connor gets trapped in the hallway between both the Terminators converging on him from either side ,I was thinking Whos the evil one ? - is it the left ,is it the right ,is it both ? You just reminded me of my childhood thoughts . Thank you :)
That's kinda obvious. There is even a shot on "To protect and to serve" on the cop car the T1000 "borrowed" to reinforce the idea that he is the good what. From his normal size body (close to Kyle Reese's), to the fact that he smiles to the forster parents (wich the T800 never did) etc. the problem, back in the day, was that the trailer sold the plot twist.
"They look too real"... You are referring to the uncanny valley. That moment when something appears normal but there is something off about it that creeps you out. The reaction isn't always that of revulsion. Sometimes you just aren't impressed.
The uncanny valley is referring to the stilted movements of the machines in T2, as opposed to the fluid movements of the CGI ones. The way they move is mostly human, but off.
@LTNetjak Just the same way as helicopters and cars don't explode in these massive balls of fire but rather clumsily and in a falling apart way. The jerkiness in the movement of the machines definitely played a part in making them creepy. But the thing with practical effects is, you just know that these things are there. For the T-1000, they used puppets and animatronics whenever he was damaged and you can actually see the shots where he is CG and where he is practical.
Uncanny valley works for terminators because it gives off that creepy factor. Dark fate isn’t uncanny, it’s just too smooth in cgi to look creepy or off putting. The first movie had uncanny valley and it works for the horror factor.
T2: Arnold learns to become more human through his interations with john over the course of the movie TDF: Arnold in his first scene "oh yeah i just learned to become human"
Not gonna lie, I squee'd like a little fangirl when I saw you covering my favourite movie of all time. T2 really is the perfect action movie, so glad they conclusively wrapped up the story and never tried turning it into a horrifyingly drawn out franchise.
you couldn't wrap a movie up any more perfectly. So I don't get when film makers try to tell us their new shit film puts a proper end to the "trilogy". What trilogy? Just because you want to make another Terminator movie doesn't mean it's the cap to T1 & T2. It's a lame attempt to start a new trilogy.
It's really interesting how some people managed to have a 'favourite of all time' list. I'm not insulting, of course. It's just amazing how you could see a movie and declared it as the best of the best. I've never had this kind of list simply because my taste change from time to time. It's never permanent. Look at my profile pic for example. It's a video game that to me, is an absolute masterpiece. But I can't call it the 'best video game of all time' because there are around half a dozen of other videogames that I've also considered perfection.
For me it's a case of T2 existing right at the top, then there's an unordered jumble of other movies that rate up there as 'one of the best'. I think T2 stands head and shoulders above the rest for me because it arrived at the perfect time in my childhood and absolutely blew everything else within multiple years of it out of the water. It existed in a perfect space in my mind for long enough to anchor it so deeply in nostalgia that nothing else can ever compare to it, even if an objectively better movie were to come out.
The monologue of Sarah on the Desert where she realize that the Machine is the only one that measured up to be a "father" of a kid shows perfectly how the world in T2 is so Fucked up and why the Judgment Day is innevitable.
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I'll admit, when I was a kid watching T2 for the first time, I bawled my eyes out when Arnold went into the molten metal and did his thumbs up as he disappeared into it. I still get misty-eyed when I see it. The relationship between John and the T-800 felt so genuine, and it felt like losing a friend.
As someone who grew up without a dad that moment made me cry because it felt so real that even a machine knew how to be a father figure to this kid and watching him melt away felt so real
Not only does each action show something about the characters but it is also meant to deliberately accomplish a specific goal that is easily understood, T2 is easily my favorite action movie ever and its closest competition comes from the same time period (Predator and Aliens). While the modern age of movies has led to much better superhero films (though even they are beginning to fall into the same trap of the rest of the action movies) and the return of good Kaiju movies, the overall trends of action which include those 2 categories as well has seemingly been getting lazier and its getting harder to tell them apart. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s hayday wasn’t perfect but when I watched Running Man I knew I was watching running man, when I saw Total Recall I didn’t mistake it for Commando, they all had personality even if they weren’t great movies.
@@Hitoshuratdn Of course, I'm just saying that it's technically no longer accurate to call Jackie Chan one of the few action stars that still does all of his own stunts. Chan in his prime is way more ballsy than Cruise ever was, but he is well-passed that now.
I never noticed that “you will” moment when John talks about meeting his dad. Because he has to send him back in time otherwise he would never have been born.
@@warcroftgaming the egg came first... the chicken was just an evolution from a different species of bird As for Connor or Reese, that's a bit too complex, convincing arguments can be made for both. One theory I have is that Reese was first randomly sent back to stop whatever the Terminator was sent back to do, and met Sarah by happenstance, which created John, who then grew up to be the leader after knowing what would happen and the ins-and-outs of how Terminators function, creating a new reality in where John is the leader of the resistance. He then sent back Kyle to ensure he was born, which kicks off the first movies events as now Skynets target has changed to be Sarah/John. It's possible Sarah WAS the initial target first time, and her offspring was the leader of the resistance, but that person wasn't John as we know him as he would have a different father. T3 somewhat supports this theory, as the T/X was after more than John, and helped unleash Skynet. Sarah in T1 might've just been ONE target, or just collateral, but after Reese intervenes, John is created. In the end it's one of those things that can never truly have a definitive answer because of how their version of time travel works. But one thing is absolutely sure.... Reese can exist without John, but John cannot exist without Reese... so logically, Reese would have to come first. A new reality is just created after the first time travel event, but from there it becomes a loop.
More than just sending him back. John chooses to send Kyle back because he trusted him. So they must be good friends prior to him sending him back to protect his mother.
Also remember in the original Terminator, Kyle has a photo of John's mother, which John gives to him. So they definitely have a good relationship prior to him sending him back in time.
I think they have their good points. T3 was let down by some pedestrian direction and poor humour, but still liked cast and main plot. Salvation started well, but did not wrap up as good. Cast a bit underplayed.
@@JoJo-mm8sn Yes and no. Salvation's protagonist wasn't great, for sure, and honestly I remember the movie feeling more like a tour of the post Skynet world rather than a realized movie, but I will give it infinite credit for daring to be a terminator movie without Arnold (barring cameos). That was a brave choice and I applaud the raw balls that took, if nothing else.
I was watchiing in terror that dude saying "this is CGI, this is CGI, this is CGI". While I'm not against the use of good CGI, I firmly believe great practical effects are always better.
Same here. I'm surprised how many people I talk to who didn't pick up on that! Hey, if you're bored and a Terminator fan, check out my new show: UA-cam.com/Tfor2show
Lemme add some more little details: The truck case scene is a reference to the first movie, where T-800 was casing Kyle and Sarah with a truck as they were helplessly running away. Also in that movie, T-800's body was torn apart almost immediately, after the truck crashed and exploded, showing only its skeletal figure. Meanwhile in this movie, not only T-1000 survived a crashed and burned truck incident, it walked out of it almost without a scratch, completely reformed into its original form. Idk if this was intentional or not, but this shows that T-1000 is a far more versatile and indestructable than T-800
4:18 - well, unfortunately it cannot be seen - T1000 actually kills that cop, and just copied his uniform. But seeing this film for the first time we never knew that, because we think Robert was the good guy. That's the brilliant filmmaking
Also another thing. In James Cameron movies even when there is a lot going on on screen like in Avatar or Titanic there is a tight disciplined focus on WHAT we should be focusing on. In these other things it just looks like confusing clutter so you can't really follow anything. And as you say, his characters are defined we know who they are. Even though he gets **** for it, Schwarzenegger does give character to the initial Terminator and some of his acting is really good like how he acts like a machine, with the turning and suddenly focusing in on Sarah Connor in the nightclub like a CCTV camera seeing and zooming in on something suspicious. Patrick for the T1000 put in a lot of prep and practice work to making his character seem like a machine to and including practicing firing guns without flinching as he did not think a machine would flinch at the sound of gunfire but just 'react' to it. And this, although it is not immediately noticeable gives these films their power as you get the sense you are watching a machine not an android like from the Alien series. This thing is not basically human, it is a machine through and through and this gives these movies their uncanny sense of horror and doom. It tells us the audience that if the heroes lose everything we ever are will be gone forever and that raises tension and creates a sense of weight to the stakes, helped by the fact that we care for the human characters. The movies that followed all were missing that heart. Salvation missed what could have been a far more tightly contained, compelling story. Instead of anything bombastic, it should have focused on the Sam Worthington character and what it would really mean if a machine really thought it was human. Dark Fate could have been good too but they would have had to have junked most of the plot as is. The film should have started as a political drama with Senator John Connor opposing the development of autonomous AI that can kill humans - as South Korea, the US and Russia are confirmed to be doing now - and the weapons manufacturer has him killed by a hitman to stop them from losing a lot of money. And THAT is what triggers the rise of the new AI. The heroes should be an aide who worked on arms control issues for John Connor, John Connor's children and Sarah Connor who - although in failing health and heartbroken - rises for one last battle to save her grandchildren and help prepare them and the aide for the battles to come. It should have been that team - two children, a yuppie and Sarah Connor - no terminator from the future to help them facing down a new threat. It also would not have been disrespectful and explained the rise of a new AI system without just hand waving but pointing to actual contemporary problems that would have established that the films are not dated at all but more relevant than ever ... BUT NOPE!
I totally agree with you. Cameron is one the best directors when it comes to shooting action sequences but he also makes you care about the characters involved. The viewer feels that there is something at stake.
One more little detail: deciding that the T1000 should have the small peculiarity of never blinking on screen is a nice subtle but impactful addition :D
Also watch Patric running, he made sure to make it look efficient and effortless and using both hands to shoot the guns, cause robots should be ambidextrous. There's probably a plenty more cool stuff about him making sure that T1000 looks as menacing as possible.
@@pkkingcrimsonrequiem1332 to be clear, the first film leans more to the Horror and thriller side of the Genre not action so you can't really compare them that much
@@tdylan Exactly. In most cases, well crafted miniatures still look 1000x more real than CGI (especially if they're the focus of the scene), and that's coming from someone who does CGI professionally. It's an amazing tool, but it's not necessarily the right choice every single time.
The most scary and earliest memory in my life is seeing Terminator 1 when i was 4 maybe 5 years old. I remember i had nightmares of T 800 face torn down. When i watched Terminator 2 when i was 12 i my terminator nightmares ended and made me very happy. Perfect perfection.
I had a different experience, I watched T2 first and I was terrified of the T-1000, not even the T-800 stopped me from getting scared of it because of how Filmento described T-1000 as a strategic brute force that is impossible to fight against head on. Then I watched the first Terminator, I was a bit frightened by the stop-motion skeleton.
Not just you, noticed that years ago. I guess you could find that pattern in even more franchises, to a lesser degree. Wherever the first movie is about surviving a threat and the second about fighting it.
I can do one better. 1: horror/thriller 2: action 3: comedy 4: tragedy Its true for anlot of series. Like leathal weapon, rambo, die hard.... the list goes on
T2 is still my favourite movie of all time but I think the reason the action for me is so good is that it isnt crazy over the top like every action movie is now. James Cameron always seems to keep his action close to what physically could happen. Obviously there are scenes you can knit pick ( Harley davidson jump etc) but its all within the realm of realism and movies like Fast and the furious being so successful nowadays makes movie companies not care about realism. As long as it makes money.
I love how you side by sided the progression of Arnold’s changes thru action…i always wondered why it was my favorite terminator and why I loved Arnold so much in the movie…the commitment to writing the story thru action defining character not action and character separated also made the story feel realistic which is something the only salvation ever really approached since(not as well tho)
The neat philosophy of the movie is that Arnold ends up being part of a team that uplifts eachother. The T-1000 is menacing because it's a perfectly self-sustaining, fully rounded killer machine: strategy, deceit, strength and durability. Arnold has only strength and durability, but through learning and the help of the humans that, comparably, have no strength nor durability, they succeed in defeating a foe that should be far more powerful than them on paper So, basically... Yay, teamwork!
Tom Cruise and his M:I team,plus Stahelski/Leitch AKA the guys behind the John Wick franchise are the only ones in Hollywood who still know how to make a kickass action movie. Even Cameron himself has forgotten how to do it. Just watch his Blue Alien Smurf movie,it looks like a cutscene for a 7nd generation videogame by now.
But it’s always a matter of how you use it. For example, Harvey Dent’s burnt face in The Dark Knight is entirely made in cgi. I do cgi, and I always wondered how they made that practically. Never crossed my mind that it was made in cgi, since I know how to do it and found it too real for being cgi. And it is. And the movie is 12 years old. A good director knows how to use cgi for the benefit of the movie. In T2 you already have many scenes that look great that are made in cgi (mainly the T1000). And that was 1991.
Dinoslay That’s right, but even then it’s not so easy to achieve an unnoticeable blend between the two. And you can have entire shots made in cgi that look and feel real, that “fool” the viewer. It’s a matter of making the right choice as a director. Cgi is a tool, a great one, but it sticks like a sore thumb when used poorly, and shines like this movie when used correctly.
You're bringing me to tears of joy with this incredibly satisfying declaration of WHY this is an eternal masterpiece. Seriously, this movie has been me and my sister's movie ever since I was 12 and she was 9 (lol "parenting" in the 90s, what's that), and I am NEVER bored when I watch it, year after year. I'm still just as excited as the first time for every single scene. Mas-ter-piece.
If that leather gloved thumb sticking up as it dips into that molten lava doesnt put a lump in your throat then you must be a machine yourself. Great Movie!
The magic in this movie is the practical effects. This is what sets it above any Terminator movie in the franchise and is what makes the movie so special
I saw T2 when it first released. My friends and I had no access to spoilers so we went crazy when it was revealed that Arnie was the good guy. Great intro if you've seen the first film and not had T2 spoiled
The two Terminator films are a great two movie series. It’s a shame they only made the two but there’s really nothing more you could do to the series without diminishing it.
Exactly. But still, there's so much good content surrounding these two movies that I launched a brand new show that discusses EVERYTHING about The Terminator and T2. 😎 Merchandise, production, promotion, the score, the various home video releases around the world... EVERYTHING! Check it out: UA-cam.com/Tfor2show
The film quality of this movie is truly incredible. It looks better than the majority of modern movies! It’s aged beautifully! It’s like it was 4K before 4K was even a thing!
8:27 This is how you subvert expectations, by giving each character-developing-scene a twist of its own. As a viewer you are first like "What?", and when the scene ends you are like "Of course!". Another great example is the "He'll live."-scene.
That line from John wishing he could meet his real dad and the Terminator telling him he will makes me mad that Terminator Salvation wasn't solely focused on future John Connor having to protect and inspire Kyle Reese without getting too close to him to effect his decision to send him back. If that had been the crux of the movie and there would have been none of the Tranformers robots or the wooden plank Avatar guy's character it would have been a good replacement for 3. It would need the future to line up better looks wise and be set almost exclusively at night too.
Terminator 2: Judgement Day is a masterpiece when it comes to action/science fiction genre. Absolutely everything about this film is great. To date, this film is the culmination of special effects (practical effects and computer effects). The use of effects in this film is not cheap or annoying, it only adds to the atmosphere of the film. The end of Terminator 2 always makes me cry. For me, the Terminator Saga ends with this film.
Same here! That's why my brand new show only discusses the two Terminator films. And we discuss EVERYTHING about them. 😎 Merchandise, production, promotion, the score, the various home video releases around the world... EVERYTHING! Check it out: UA-cam.com/Tfor2show
Mine here is T1, T2 and Terminator:Resistance the game. My personal canon, coming together as a perfect loop. Resistance shows us war in the future, and how Skynet sends Terminators in the past. And T1 shows us... T2 shows us... Do you really want me to go into T1 and T2 plot? :D
Can you imagine sitting in the cinema and realizing that in the scene, Arnold is actually the good guy :O
Because the trailer didn't spoil the plot.
Must've been amazing.
When Terminator 2 was re-released to cinemas in 3D I told my girlfriend that we were going to see it!
She then told me that she’d not seen any terminator movie!
So before watching the second at the cinema I showed her the first Terminator... she was sufficiently terrified of Arnold’s Terminator and when she asked what T2 was about I just said “it’s the same as the first terminator but now there’s TWO machines” ... I did not say that Arnold was now the protector.
So walking out of the theater after T2 she told me she was completely under the impression that both Arnold and the T1000 were after John in the first act. She said she was watching the film and seeing Arnold ride around looking for John and was completely sure he was trying to find and kill him and loved the “twist” ...
I love this film for so many reasons and this is just one of them.
I was 10 when I saw T2 opening day. But pretty much everybody knew Arnold was the good guy. Even the making of Terminator 2 on Showtime went deep into the plot. The movie plays it kind of ambiguous to a degree, but there are plenty of ques that let you know Arnold is the good guy. But I understand what you are saying. The later sequels gave away some actual plot twist.
Regardless, it was an incredible experience watching everything unfold for the first time!
I was there, 10 years old at the cinedomes. The entire audience gasped in the mall scene where the T1000 and Arnie fought. I remember holding my breath as JC ran through the corridors. This movie changed my life. When it came out on video i watched every scene and analyzed every part. Every hit, crash and shot were visceral. It felt so real. Never had I loved something on screen so much, never had I been so wrapped up and engaged in a film. I used to do Sarah's nuclear nightmare monologue at auditions. Nothing since has touched me quite the same way as T2.
I saw T2 before anything else in the franchise. And I originally didn't see it from the start. Ergo, I never got that big plot twist reveal. I was actually a little confused when I saw him being a bad guy in the first one.
The trailer for Terminator 2 DID spoil the plot though. If you look up the first Terminator 2 trailer in 1991 on youtube, it shows its all, with the narrator even saying, "NOW his mission is to protect him!" A real bummer actually.
I love how people automatically refer to whatever name Arnold's character is as just Arnold himself
Mostly because he doesn't really act...or if he does, he always does the same character, just with slight variations.
@@Darkdaej you can't compare T800 with Kindergarden Cop.
@@returnedtomonkey8886 Actually, you can. Just look at him in that first scene in the movie when he's chasing down the villain. His original persona before his starts opening up to people is almost scary.
Ok, I'll admit Arnold has some acting range, that's obvious. However it's not very broad. Regardless of the character he portrays, this character will have many common traits to every other he's portrayed in a similar genre.
I did a narrative review of the first own and had to keep reminding myself to call him the t800 and not Arnold haha
@@screenheads3812 At least you didn't pull a "Terminator Genisys" and call it a T101.
Looks like Cruise has officially become... The Last Action Hero.
good one
Tom Cruise should relax more and stop wanting to be the hero of his films. I was astonished when I saw him in Collateral. His performance is masterful. Menacing and magnetic.
@@plipogamez3173 yo homie! that my comment?
Goddamn dude you got me with that comment!!
Go ahead, take the sunglasses off. ~ YEAAHHHHHHHH~
John: "You can't go around killing people."
Arnold: "Why?"
John: "Because you can't."
Arnold: *W H Y*
Haha Crom laughs at your reference.
Typical leftist, lol.🤭
Years after both Terminator and T2 came out my parents showed me them. They didn’t spoil anything. I was watching the T2 act and I was literally on the edge of my seat thinking, holy crap, this kid is dead. What are they gonna- “Wait!” I literally said it out loud. “Arnold’s a good guy!?” My parents both smiled at me and I was immediately hooked. This is how you make a perfect sequel.
you had the advantage of not having trailers or vhs/dvd synopsis spoiling things for you thankfully. Even having it spoiled before watching it, it is still one of the best films ever made though.
Good parents
I remember this feeling as well.
And the scene that marked me the most is when John and Arnold go to find Sarah. That moment when she has PTSD and flee toward the T1000 to see something even more horrific to finish with the cult car scene...
Perfect
no no, you're wrong. To make a perfect sequel you MUST kill that kid and switch him with someone else. Clearly this is the right way because they spent millions of dollars to realize this fan fiction. Right??!?!?
@Mohit Punia I hope you're not replying to my comment cause it turns your comment into something else entirely
When Terminator 2 was re-released to cinemas in 3D I told my girlfriend that we were going to see it!
She then told me that she’d not seen any terminator movie!
So before watching T2 at the cinema I showed her the first Terminator... she was sufficiently TERRIFIED of Arnold’s Terminator and when she asked what T2 was about I just said “it’s the same as the first terminator but now there’s TWO machines” ... I did not say that Arnold was now the protector.
So walking out the theater after T2 she told me she absolutely loved the film and she was completely under the impression that both Arnold and the T1000 were after John in the first act. She said she was watching the film and seeing Arnold ride around looking for John and was completely sure he was trying to find and kill him and loved the “twist” ...
... And I remember vividly, watching that classic scene in the mall hallway when John is trapped between the T1000 and the T800! I had goosebumps! Seeing this all on the big screen and just waiting for that amazing “get down”!! ...
I love this film for so many reasons and this is just one of them.
I like your story. Terminator 2 has been one of my favorite movies of all time ever since saw it in the cinemas back then (although I wasn't legally allowed to see it when it was originally released). However, my wife hasn't seen T2 yet but we saw the first Terminator together. So I am really excited to see what she thinks of this masterpiece and how she reacts to the "twist" you mentioned.
Not so fun fuct: trailers for T2 right before original release spoiled that twist.
Watched it recently with my 13 yo daughter to see if it was actually that awesome or if I just remembered it as awesome because I was a teenage boy at the time.
Turns out it is 100% still one of the greatest action movies of all time. She teared up a little at the last thumbs up scene ❤️
Martin Fagerfjäll that’s brilliant to hear mate! Reminds me of the first time I seen T2 when I was about that age, think I was about 11 and I watched it with my dad too.
It was the first Arnold film I’d ever seen and I’ve been a fan ever since.
It’s just one of those films that’s so good that I genuinely believe that your daughter will remember watching with you for a long time too! 🙂
Aah flawless execution of the mission. Your story satisfied me to the core. Well done, Sir/M'am!
My dad was one of the extras in this movie! He played a cop during the police shootout scene. We have a pretty cool picture of him with Robert Patrick
Thats something special, this movie is a action masterpiece :)
proof or it didn't happen. don't you realize you're on the internet where anybody can say anything?
@@hypnos9336
he doesnt had to proof anything, and you dont need to trust him.
@@hypnos9336 he doesn’t have to give you prove you believe or you don’t
DOPPPPPE. tell him I said thanks for the work yo
This film is a note perfect masterpiece. James Cameron really knows how to structure action movies. Also see Aliens and True Lies.
Love Aliens and True Lies. Sucks they still haven't realised True Lies on blu ray or 4k.
shut up snob hipster f7ck
@@galvanizedcorpse ???
1980s James Cameron knows how to do action movies , current day James Cameron is off his meds , for reference see Terminator Genesis where he takes a huge dump on his previous work
@@konstantinemarkelia759 "this film is not perfect there are other films better" jeez...
In T1 Sarah is fighting for her life to press the button to smash the Terminator but in T2 she looks sad and doesn't want to press the button that destroys the Terminator. Nobody ever seems to notice that little reversal.
I never thought of that, that’s really cool!
Travis, good eye.
Through the relationship of his son with Arnold, she has learned the real value of human life as well, and the value of her own relationship with John :')
@@ginshuhime how about when Robert Patrick stares at the silver mannequin in the store for a few seconds before he continues? To me, my mind thinks he thinks the mannequin is another terminator
We noticed it, its in the character development of the T2 terminator and Sarahs words, along with what you stated. We just probably didn't put it into words.
For me, the Terminator story ended when an elderly Sarah Connor said "We stopped Judgement Day" as she watched John playing with his kids.
That ending actually played in theatres in Japan.
Me too. It's the same thing with Aliens. As far as I'm concerned there was Aliens and Terminator 2 and nothing after them! :)
Sadly there is so much they can still do with that world. Go into the future and the war with Skynet. I want a John Connor who has troops enhanced with cybernetics to level the playing field facing against the machine armies of Skynet. End the time travel side of things and focus on the future war. Salvation was a decent attempt, I would love to see another shot at it with a good writer, director and actors. Pretty much, keep it far away from Disney
The happy ending is the true ending. ❤
@@barnabusdoyle4930 Anything touched by modern Disney experiences accelerated entropy to heat death.
The point you make about the machines looking “not real” is such a great point. I was terrified of those things when I watched this movie as a kid and it was because they looked so inhuman.
Honestly this. When I saw those jerky moving machines with big red glowing eyes as a kid I was scared shitless, but if I saw the new ones I'd be like "that's cool I guess"
When I compare CGI to practical effects I always resort to The Thing vs The Thing (2011) the 80’s film is every bit of terrifying while the 2011 film is almost to the point of boring. Nothing real about it
imperfection is the key
Tbh the stop motion terminator from the first one still freaks me out
the imperfection leaves one with a concern of "what is going to happen", like when Miles was riffled with bullets, very sad and painful to watch. The terminators felt like merciless monsters ready to kill. But with CGI, there is a sense of excitement even at the most horrible violent scene, because it comes off as fake graphics. The terminators in CGI look more like toys and exude little sense of fright in any
Arnold's face when he goes to give John the low five and he pulls it away is still the funniest thing of all time
I also love how Arnold pulls the same trick on John. You can see it when Sarah monologues and watches the two how he also pulls away his hand.
In my opinion it's like he is despising the unfairness of that game, as John changes the rules as it goes. For a machine, that must be very annoying.
@@Pedro38906 Couldn't agree more
The virgin Miller: "The guardrail is digital."
The chad Cameron: "You see that helicopter going under a freeway overpass? That's a helicopter going under a freeway overpass."
😂😂😂😂👏👏
Mate thats a good one 👍
haha
haha good one XD
that made me laugh
CGI has gone from being a tool used by professionals to enhance their masterpieces and become a crutch used by amateurs to hide their failures.
It's like videogames and movies have merged to create something worse than either thing.
@@gumdeo well said, my friend.
well not really. CGI is very hard to do and takes alot of work and care. Its like animation.
CGI is like Makeup if you use it carefully it's great, if you use it to much it's ugly.
@@asddasdasdasdadsa not "too much", but badly. If i put on some bare minimum makeup onto my hypothetical girlfriend, she'd end up looking way worse. If a professional makeup artist put on 500quid worth of makeup onto my hypothetical girlfriend, she'd look amazing, because the makeup artist can use the makeup well, whilst i can't. Same concept with film makers and CGI. Lot of infinity war is full CGI, and it looks and is amazing, because the film makers used the CGI well. Then you get some fairly minimimal CGI in a lot of low budget horror films and it looks pretty shit, because A it wasn't very good CGI, and B it wasn't used well.
To that I throw you Lego: The Movie. It was made almost entirely via CGI apart from a few shots. Yet the world feels very much real. Why? Because the animation of the characters, their movement was deliberately altered to look like a stop-motion animation. Another cool thing is Lego bricks in this movie have little wrinkles, scratches that a kid would produce by reusing them. Despite being made on the computer, Lego: The Movie has some of the most believable animation, because it's intentionally imperfect, just like the practical effects of Termination 2.
The first time I watched that (amazing) movie I had a hard time finding out if it was either CGI, stop-motion, or both. They really nailed it.
I'll add on with Dunkirk. While yes, it is fantastic everything or almost everything you see in that film is real, it does compromise what could have been. The beach and the town are my two biggest gripes. the town is too well structured (the real Dunkirk was bombed to rubble by that point) and the beach claims to have over 400,000 British, French, and colonial soldiers waiting for evacuation or annihilation, but all we see is a massive beach with a few hundred or thousand soldiers in lines. no activity and the feeling of resentment to wards CG characters/scenes makes it feel empty and lifeless. The History Buffs channel covers way more eloquently than i do in their film review of Dunkirk
What they apparently also did with the LEGO movie, they animated the characters and objects only in ways that would be possible for real LEGO pieces to move.
@@joshpart3319 they used like 15 f-stops and 64 bit full rendering as well as scanned assets. All those things help.
The quality is not exactly due to it being "stop-motion like", but rather... to be designed to remind the viewer of something real. In animation, you either create a very specific design line and root it in something real (like pieces of lego and the way they move), or just go all-in and make something entirely stylistic with no mix-up on reality whatsoever (like the whole -- and beautiful -- Arcane series)
“His hulking, filmento-like body”
I laughed way too hard at that
3:08
Terminator dark fate: Exist
Terminator from the second film comes in: - I need your shoes, your clothes and my fucking role back.
Dark Fate was such a dissapointment... And I say it as someone who liked all previous movies, yes, even the so hated Genysis...
I dislike GeneSys quite a bit, though it started alright. ROTM has gone up for me. Salvation is... alright.
"B-but I have no clothes! It's all CGI!!"
Feminism has ruined cinema.
You forgot to say "please".
"As we watch him stand up in his hulking, Filmento-like body - " haha
Yeah, I caught that too.
30 years later, the movie still gives goosebumps. That's what a good movie does.
The original Terminator movie has Kyle Reese, who is not just a desperate man but also one who weeps to see how beautiful the world was, and is a kind of shabby, post-apocalyptic knight-errant trying to protect a queen.
the original simp
Don't care to Kyle
@@gthewolf7948 your loss
@@Gmthekiller my bad lol
Filmento: Nooo, you just can't around kill franchise
Hollywood: Why?
Filmento: What you mean why? cuz you can`t
Hollywood: why?
*thinks of all the media that's been and is being ruined* Sounds accurate
haha sarah connor go brrrrr
”Forgive him, father. He’s a robot from the future.”
@@Dinoslay or an NPC from the current year.
Because is wrong
Yes, Terminator 2, the second and LAST movie.
Everything else doesn’t exist to me.
inspite all the hate dark fate is still a good movie
same here
@@jindrichsander9555 but not a good sequel to this movie... more like a reboot
@@tomerohanabentzvi9866 in my book it is a good sequel
Salvation was pretty nice too, at least in my opinion. It wasnt as good as T1 and T2 but it is the only Terminator that plays after judgement day and I loved the idea of the machine-human hybrid who didnt even knew what he was.
The character arc of finding out and accepting it, was great.
The twist in terminator 2 really got me when i finished it a few weeks ago, i was trying to piece together who the T-1000 was in the beginning and how he fits into the story.. just to find out that hes the bad guy
Im surprised ive never spoiled myself after all this time
Haha, nicely done.
Yeah, that's pretty impressive. Congratulations!
He used to scare me as a kid
Same!!
Oh man. To have that kind of reveal again... I miss movies *NOT* being constantly spoiled, and not being able to avoid it no matter how hard I try... Glad the twist hasn't been ruined for others though. Fun fact: they didn't use any special effects on the T-1000. Robert Patrick was hired because he actually is a liquid metal killing machine. That, and his sweet ass lmao.
The fact Robert Patrick while doing the "Running to catch Jonh on a motorbike" scene actually ran so fast that he actually caught Furlong in that scene makes T2 so much greater for some reason.
T2 will remain a masterpiece. 1000x after watching it I still feel it's far better than the other action movies coming beside it
Hey, salvation at least tried to move away from the "robot sent to past to kill chosen one".
I can respect that
While imperfect, Salvation may be the only Terminator sequel to date I respect.
@@kazikek2674 Me too, Salvation was good on its own. It has flaws - and much more than one. But one thing it did really good - showed T800 as a menacing figure as an unstoppable force, that cannot be questioned or bargained.
@Kayoshie Flametail Well, same did T800 in a first movie (he did only with Sarah's roommate's boyfriend, rest of the movie he was shooting) and T1000 in a second (T1000 is strong, so I guess he could have just rip uncle Bob's head apart, especially when he pinned him with metal spike). It is something in a movies that we almost cannot avoid.
In Salvation John Connor would die in the beginning of the encounter - when the metal door exploded in his face :D
And about throwing - Connor fly at least 5 meters with good acceleration. Realisitically he could rather break a skull or have some brain damage on impact, or break a spine. But well it's a movie.
So can I. But I think they blew the story. It should not have been bombastic and big but instead about the implications of what if a machine REALLY thought it was human. There were a few different ways that they could have played that to make it good - they did not go with any of them.
@@dewittbourchier7169 damn, that would be interesting as hell
By having complex characters who make understandable decisions, innovative cinematic sequences, a plot that isn't riddled with plotholes, iconic scenes and emotional depth. It is truly a candidate for the best action movie of all time.
I'd put Aliens as a contender as well.
11:45 I know now why you cry, but it's something I can never do. Goodbye.
The moment in T2 when john moves his hand and says"to slow" while laughing, combined with Arnold's annoyed look will always crack me up 😂😂
With all the new technology in modern film, T2 stood the test of time n is still better than most action films till this day.. Truly a masterpiece!!
One small detail you missed on the first act of T2
Remember that the movie is a sequel to T1 and in that movie Arnold was the villain. The intro for Arnold in T2 was very reminicent of the original one, and if you notice it, the T1000 enters almost like Kyle, not weak, but less mechanical.
My mom told me when she saw T2 in the cinema, she throught the T1000 was the hero until that twist. She wad blown away and says its still her favorite plot twist ever.
Also a little nod to T1 was when Sarah encountered the T800 in that Center. My mom said she fully understood Sarah in that moment.
I watched T2 with wife and daughter recently. They kept asking me "which one is the bad one?" and I realized "holy crap!" I saw T2 when it was first released, and "spoiler culture" wasn't a thing so it was spoiled for me that Arnold was the good guy this time around. I realized how important avoiding spoilers can be because I was cheated out of the reveal that banked on the audience thinking arnold was the bad guy. Glad I got to witness it by proxy through them.
The marketing of the movie back in 1991 gave away Arnold was the good guy. I think most people who were following the build up, interviews or watched the making up knew the role reversal. I can see how some people were surprised if were not expecting it. But it certainly wasn't a situation where everyone at the theater was shocked and gasp to learn Arnold is the good guy.
I think Cameron plays it close to the chest, which works great in the film. But there are certainly ques that hint at the role reversal. Arnold's opening scene is more comedic and they even play Bad to the Bone, a total light hearted moment compared to the original. And I think Patrick is so menacing from opening shot lol. It's definitely played somewhat ambiguous, but I never get that the T1000 could be the protagonist.
@@faz6877 I didnt knew it was spoiled. Also my mom wasnt following that much the interviews or traillers.
@@faz6877 exactly. I remember being 7 years old and being super hyped up that Arnold was gonna be the hero this time around. Its kind of mind blowing to me now to realize that Arnold is still set up as being the bad guy.
It's still great that the T1 references in T2 are genuine plot devices and not just crappy fan service. It's telling that James Cameron did much the same thing with Aliens. Hopefully he keeps it up for the second Avatar movie too.
Filmento: "Tom Cruise is the only action film actor that keeps doing his own stunts."
Keanue Reeves: "Am I joke to you?"
Jackie Chan: Excuse me?
Yes, it's a joke for Tom.
The matrix says hi
Reeves does most of the fighting but not the stunts, he stated this several times whenever interviewers try to credit him for doing all of his own stunts.
@@windowsVD Yeah, didn't he gift a Harley Davidson to all of his stuntmen? Or am I remembering incorrectly?
The last time I was this early "Terminator" still was a good franchise
Gottem
That hurts
Did people like the franchise at a period of time?
this comment hurts
@@axelnilsson5124 Up to T2 the franchise was great. The cracks started appearing on T3 (which recycled the formula from T2). From T5 on it's been a trainwreck
Watching this on the big screen in 1991 was truly groundbreaking. Couldn’t believe what I was seeing!
Yeah, I was 13. Blown away.
I was -3 years old back then. I envy you guys big time. Seeing T2 in the cinemas must've been incredible.
@@charlesthorndike2702 it was. Also Jurassic Park back then was insane. Never seen before.
@@vegeta8169 Jurassic Park is also a masterpiece. T2 and JP still look better than today's movies. What's funny is that I was swapping through the channels, and GUESS WHAT? T2 was playing! AWESOME. Coincidence or not, it's fucking awesome. I haven't seen this movie being aired on Norwegian television (that's where I'm from) in 11 years, so this was quite the surprise. I'm happy, nevertheless.
:)
That heroic Arnold theme still gives me goosebumps
One of the things that are overlooked about James Cameron´s early masterpieces T 1&2, Abyss and Aliens,is that his then wife,Gale Ann Hurd,had massive imput in the production and writing.
After Cameron divorced her in the 90s,his movies became more and more bombastic and expensive,but you can tell that they´re lacking that special something that made them stand out.
Just compare Aliens with Dances with the Smurfs AKA Avatar.
Speaking of Aliens: Walter Hill was also a co-writer on this movie and contributed lots of ideas.(Walter Hill ,the guy who made The Warriors,48 Hours,Extreme Prejudice and many more kickass 80´s action filcks,that guy.)
Btw. His Ex-Wife continued working as a producer on many successful movies and tv shows. Among other things, she was involved on Phase 1 of the MCU and on the early seasons of TWD.
I checked it out, obviously that explains his mediocrity after the 90s. Thanks for the info! I've always wandered how people like him and Scott were so capable and later on in their careers unable to match their skills and now I know.
I'm upvoting for this interesting fact, but I did enjoy Avatar. In the theater and with 3D it was a psychedelic, transcendent experience.
I remember girls absolutely loved Avatar. I also thought it was a great movie.
@@joelmilten Honestly I just couldn't get into Avatar. Yeah, it was beautiful to look at, but gorgeous visuals don't do much for me.
Especially if the movie is literally "Pocahontas in Space"
Interesting, similar to how George Lucas divorced his wife Marcia. Then we got Han Shot First and the Prequels. Maybe both of them were really husband and wife teams that didn't do as well individually.
When it comes to Movie Effects, Do it Practically when possible. If not, then do it in Compositing. If that doesn't work either, then you use CGI.
Yeah. Only use cgi in places where it is absolutely necessary, some cgi here and there combined with good practical sets and effects is going to blend in just fine.
Do everything with cgi and the action will look fake and weightless.
I think you can make buildings and cityscapes look incredible with CGI, at least done right like in Blade Runner 2049.
But when it comes to moving things, like a walking army of T800's CGI looks like shit. That shot of the T800's coming out of the watering DF is one of the worst effects in the franchise. And with a $200 million budget.
I second that. But it seems a lot of filmmakers have completely forgotten about that. I hate it when they use CGI for elements that could have been done with practical effects. It takes me out of the movie because it kills all suspension disbelief. A lot of the comic book movies are some serious offenders in this regard.
@@faz6877 A few things here: You're right, but blade Runner 2049 had a shit-ton of miniatures, including cityscapes. CGI was used as less as possible; there's still a lot, but far less than most recent blockbusters. Secondly, CGI can be great for moving things too, especially if they're not human. It's definitely a better alternative to stop-motion (like T1) or puppets, but it has do be done carefully, with a strong sense of realism, and ideally mixed with practical vfx, which takes a lot of time and budget. Usually that's where studios fuck up and rush things to a bad looking result. Good example: Jurassic Park. Bad example: Cats.
@@thisisfyne I agree. I never said BR 2049 was all CGI by any means. I just think that's a perfect example of how CGI should be used and blended with practical effects. My point was BR2049 used plenty of CGI and looks incredible.
I don't feel like the last few Terminator films have tried to blend anything. I feel like it's been mostly CGI. Bad CGI
OMG ! When you said it wasnt clear in the beginning which terminator was the evil one , I felt THAT !
That was the exact thought I had while watching it for the 1st time. When Connor gets trapped in the hallway between both the Terminators converging on him from either side ,I was thinking Whos the evil one ? - is it the left ,is it the right ,is it both ?
You just reminded me of my childhood thoughts . Thank you :)
That's kinda obvious. There is even a shot on "To protect and to serve" on the cop car the T1000 "borrowed" to reinforce the idea that he is the good what. From his normal size body (close to Kyle Reese's), to the fact that he smiles to the forster parents (wich the T800 never did) etc. the problem, back in the day, was that the trailer sold the plot twist.
"They look too real"...
You are referring to the uncanny valley. That moment when something appears normal but there is something off about it that creeps you out. The reaction isn't always that of revulsion. Sometimes you just aren't impressed.
@LTNetjak Yeah, we are not water-balloons under extreme pressure.
So chika Fujiwaras dance gives me this uncanny vally effect I guess
The uncanny valley is referring to the stilted movements of the machines in T2, as opposed to the fluid movements of the CGI ones. The way they move is mostly human, but off.
@LTNetjak Just the same way as helicopters and cars don't explode in these massive balls of fire but rather clumsily and in a falling apart way.
The jerkiness in the movement of the machines definitely played a part in making them creepy. But the thing with practical effects is, you just know that these things are there. For the T-1000, they used puppets and animatronics whenever he was damaged and you can actually see the shots where he is CG and where he is practical.
Uncanny valley works for terminators because it gives off that creepy factor. Dark fate isn’t uncanny, it’s just too smooth in cgi to look creepy or off putting. The first movie had uncanny valley and it works for the horror factor.
T2: Arnold learns to become more human through his interations with john over the course of the movie
TDF: Arnold in his first scene "oh yeah i just learned to become human"
Not gonna lie, I squee'd like a little fangirl when I saw you covering my favourite movie of all time. T2 really is the perfect action movie, so glad they conclusively wrapped up the story and never tried turning it into a horrifyingly drawn out franchise.
you couldn't wrap a movie up any more perfectly. So I don't get when film makers try to tell us their new shit film puts a proper end to the "trilogy". What trilogy? Just because you want to make another Terminator movie doesn't mean it's the cap to T1 & T2. It's a lame attempt to start a new trilogy.
I don't have an all time favorite movie but T2 and T1 are top 5 for sure!
My favorite movie is Aliens but Terminator 2 is top 10 too. James Cameron was so great before Titanic.
It's really interesting how some people managed to have a 'favourite of all time' list.
I'm not insulting, of course. It's just amazing how you could see a movie and declared it as the best of the best. I've never had this kind of list simply because my taste change from time to time. It's never permanent.
Look at my profile pic for example. It's a video game that to me, is an absolute masterpiece. But I can't call it the 'best video game of all time' because there are around half a dozen of other videogames that I've also considered perfection.
For me it's a case of T2 existing right at the top, then there's an unordered jumble of other movies that rate up there as 'one of the best'. I think T2 stands head and shoulders above the rest for me because it arrived at the perfect time in my childhood and absolutely blew everything else within multiple years of it out of the water. It existed in a perfect space in my mind for long enough to anchor it so deeply in nostalgia that nothing else can ever compare to it, even if an objectively better movie were to come out.
I've seen T2 countless times, the end still makes me cry.
Same here
Just watched yesterday, man what a film!
The monologue of Sarah on the Desert where she realize that the Machine is the only one that measured up to be a "father" of a kid shows perfectly how the world in T2 is so Fucked up and why the Judgment Day is innevitable.
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"In his hulking Filmento like body" ......I see what you did there.
I was looking for a comment talking about that
Basically everyone is second to Filmento’s body
I laughed a solid minute when he said it.
You seem to understand the relationship between John and the Terminator better than anyone. Thank you for finally putting my feelings into words.
I'll admit, when I was a kid watching T2 for the first time, I bawled my eyes out when Arnold went into the molten metal and did his thumbs up as he disappeared into it. I still get misty-eyed when I see it. The relationship between John and the T-800 felt so genuine, and it felt like losing a friend.
As someone who grew up without a dad that moment made me cry because it felt so real that even a machine knew how to be a father figure to this kid and watching him melt away felt so real
I can't watch that scene without getting sad.
Yesterday I was watching Aliens and Terminator 1 and 2. Immaculate action and sci-fi masterpieces. It's great timing that you upload this video now.
Arnold was a badass in his day.
I don't remember his day ending.
@@adamheywood113 woooooooosh
@@randomnerd3402 How is this a woosh? He's basically deliver the punchline of the joke
@@randomnerd3402 ya.. didn't use that right bud, nice try tho
@@randomnerd3402 bro you just posted cringe
Not only does each action show something about the characters but it is also meant to deliberately accomplish a specific goal that is easily understood, T2 is easily my favorite action movie ever and its closest competition comes from the same time period (Predator and Aliens). While the modern age of movies has led to much better superhero films (though even they are beginning to fall into the same trap of the rest of the action movies) and the return of good Kaiju movies, the overall trends of action which include those 2 categories as well has seemingly been getting lazier and its getting harder to tell them apart. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s hayday wasn’t perfect but when I watched Running Man I knew I was watching running man, when I saw Total Recall I didn’t mistake it for Commando, they all had personality even if they weren’t great movies.
4:14 is when he says "In-capa-ci-tate" for those searching
Kappa
I respect the confidence he said that with
4:18 also
Filmento: "Tom Cruise is the last person to do practical stunts"
Jackie Chan: "Am I a Joke to You?"
Is Jackie still active? What projects has he been in lately?
The Foreigner, I think from 2018, good movie too, Chan is awesome
@@amorymckeever2665 Jackie used stunt doubles for certain scenes in the Foreigner.
@@windowsVD I mean the guy is old, and his long career of doing his own acts and almost dying, I give him a pass.
@@Hitoshuratdn Of course, I'm just saying that it's technically no longer accurate to call Jackie Chan one of the few action stars that still does all of his own stunts. Chan in his prime is way more ballsy than Cruise ever was, but he is well-passed that now.
I never noticed that “you will” moment when John talks about meeting his dad. Because he has to send him back in time otherwise he would never have been born.
Its a chicken/egg moment.
Who came first? John Conner or Kyle Reese?
@@warcroftgaming the egg came first... the chicken was just an evolution from a different species of bird
As for Connor or Reese, that's a bit too complex, convincing arguments can be made for both. One theory I have is that Reese was first randomly sent back to stop whatever the Terminator was sent back to do, and met Sarah by happenstance, which created John, who then grew up to be the leader after knowing what would happen and the ins-and-outs of how Terminators function, creating a new reality in where John is the leader of the resistance. He then sent back Kyle to ensure he was born, which kicks off the first movies events as now Skynets target has changed to be Sarah/John. It's possible Sarah WAS the initial target first time, and her offspring was the leader of the resistance, but that person wasn't John as we know him as he would have a different father.
T3 somewhat supports this theory, as the T/X was after more than John, and helped unleash Skynet. Sarah in T1 might've just been ONE target, or just collateral, but after Reese intervenes, John is created.
In the end it's one of those things that can never truly have a definitive answer because of how their version of time travel works. But one thing is absolutely sure.... Reese can exist without John, but John cannot exist without Reese... so logically, Reese would have to come first. A new reality is just created after the first time travel event, but from there it becomes a loop.
More than just sending him back. John chooses to send Kyle back because he trusted him. So they must be good friends prior to him sending him back to protect his mother.
Also remember in the original Terminator, Kyle has a photo of John's mother, which John gives to him. So they definitely have a good relationship prior to him sending him back in time.
@@TalkingHands308 The photo is largely irrelevant. No matter who was sent back, they would've needed to know what Sarah looks like.
basically everything after T2 are just materials for filmento's "anatomy of a failure"...
lmao so true
Well you might see T3 and Salvation as a faliure, I still think they are good movies. And to be honest you cannot really surpass T2.
I think they have their good points. T3 was let down by some pedestrian direction and poor humour, but still liked cast and main plot. Salvation started well, but did not wrap up as good. Cast a bit underplayed.
T3 had some good points just didn't come together well. Salvation was let down by the protagonist.
@@JoJo-mm8sn Yes and no. Salvation's protagonist wasn't great, for sure, and honestly I remember the movie feeling more like a tour of the post Skynet world rather than a realized movie, but I will give it infinite credit for daring to be a terminator movie without Arnold (barring cameos). That was a brave choice and I applaud the raw balls that took, if nothing else.
Tim Miller: "My directing abilities are also CG."
Is it ok that you made my eyes a little bit teary when you explained the "heart" of the movie?
I remember that one time JJ Abrams went to a desert and used a green screen.
LMAOOOOOOO
@@thisisfyne hahahaha
...for practically all of the scene right?
Not any desert, but flew to another country to it's desert and film in a green screen. LMAO!
I'd ask if you're being sarcastic... But I'm going to bet you're not.
I was watchiing in terror that dude saying "this is CGI, this is CGI, this is CGI". While I'm not against the use of good CGI, I firmly believe great practical effects are always better.
It killed me inside when Arnie said “I will not be back” in DF.. End of an era... 😢
Same here. I'm surprised how many people I talk to who didn't pick up on that!
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Lemme add some more little details:
The truck case scene is a reference to the first movie, where T-800 was casing Kyle and Sarah with a truck as they were helplessly running away. Also in that movie, T-800's body was torn apart almost immediately, after the truck crashed and exploded, showing only its skeletal figure. Meanwhile in this movie, not only T-1000 survived a crashed and burned truck incident, it walked out of it almost without a scratch, completely reformed into its original form. Idk if this was intentional or not, but this shows that T-1000 is a far more versatile and indestructable than T-800
4:18 - well, unfortunately it cannot be seen - T1000 actually kills that cop, and just copied his uniform.
But seeing this film for the first time we never knew that, because we think Robert was the good guy.
That's the brilliant filmmaking
Also another thing. In James Cameron movies even when there is a lot going on on screen like in Avatar or Titanic there is a tight disciplined focus on WHAT we should be focusing on. In these other things it just looks like confusing clutter so you can't really follow anything. And as you say, his characters are defined we know who they are. Even though he gets **** for it, Schwarzenegger does give character to the initial Terminator and some of his acting is really good like how he acts like a machine, with the turning and suddenly focusing in on Sarah Connor in the nightclub like a CCTV camera seeing and zooming in on something suspicious. Patrick for the T1000 put in a lot of prep and practice work to making his character seem like a machine to and including practicing firing guns without flinching as he did not think a machine would flinch at the sound of gunfire but just 'react' to it. And this, although it is not immediately noticeable gives these films their power as you get the sense you are watching a machine not an android like from the Alien series. This thing is not basically human, it is a machine through and through and this gives these movies their uncanny sense of horror and doom. It tells us the audience that if the heroes lose everything we ever are will be gone forever and that raises tension and creates a sense of weight to the stakes, helped by the fact that we care for the human characters. The movies that followed all were missing that heart. Salvation missed what could have been a far more tightly contained, compelling story. Instead of anything bombastic, it should have focused on the Sam Worthington character and what it would really mean if a machine really thought it was human. Dark Fate could have been good too but they would have had to have junked most of the plot as is. The film should have started as a political drama with Senator John Connor opposing the development of autonomous AI that can kill humans - as South Korea, the US and Russia are confirmed to be doing now - and the weapons manufacturer has him killed by a hitman to stop them from losing a lot of money. And THAT is what triggers the rise of the new AI. The heroes should be an aide who worked on arms control issues for John Connor, John Connor's children and Sarah Connor who - although in failing health and heartbroken - rises for one last battle to save her grandchildren and help prepare them and the aide for the battles to come. It should have been that team - two children, a yuppie and Sarah Connor - no terminator from the future to help them facing down a new threat. It also would not have been disrespectful and explained the rise of a new AI system without just hand waving but pointing to actual contemporary problems that would have established that the films are not dated at all but more relevant than ever ... BUT NOPE!
I totally agree with you. Cameron is one the best directors when it comes to shooting action sequences but he also makes you care about the characters involved. The viewer feels that there is something at stake.
One more little detail: deciding that the T1000 should have the small peculiarity of never blinking on screen is a nice subtle but impactful addition :D
TL:DR
Also watch Patric running, he made sure to make it look efficient and effortless and using both hands to shoot the guns, cause robots should be ambidextrous. There's probably a plenty more cool stuff about him making sure that T1000 looks as menacing as possible.
And did you know, the actor for t1000 holds his breath as he is doing his chases to make sure he is even more robot-like. That much detail.
I didn’t know that I heard he’s caught up to Edward because he trained so hard for the role to be as perfect as possible
And that is why I'm still scared of him running lol
He also never blinked. Even when firing a gun. Robert Patrick was committed
@@MickHaggs It's always amazing when actors are really into their roles.
Mick Haggs oh yeah I heard that
If you dislike this movie I don't trust your opinion on movies
Don't dislike it but I feel like it's massively overrated; the first one is the superior film.
@@pkkingcrimsonrequiem1332 to be clear, the first film leans more to the Horror and thriller side of the Genre not action so you can't really compare them that much
@Yeet BOI: I second that
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 huh, so just like Alien and Aliens then. Both are good in their own ways.
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 You can always compare movies. T2 is significantly better.
The funniest part in Terminator 2 is when John Connor says you can't just go around killing people and the Terminator asks why
9:21 i know this movie by heart, but his deadpan "why?" always cracks me up somehow.
Your probably not gonna see this but
YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE MOVIE RANGO!!!
oh and great vid by the way
Btw: That “real 18 wheeler crashing”? That was a miniature. Filmento fooled by practical effects!
Just cause it's a tiny 18 wheeler doesn't mean it's not a real 18 wheeler ;)
@@AbelDuviant nice one
Chris Nolan knew the OP would make this comment hence why he flipped a real truck
But it was a "real" miniature. Not CGI.
@@tdylan Exactly. In most cases, well crafted miniatures still look 1000x more real than CGI (especially if they're the focus of the scene), and that's coming from someone who does CGI professionally. It's an amazing tool, but it's not necessarily the right choice every single time.
The most scary and earliest memory in my life is seeing Terminator 1 when i was 4 maybe 5 years old. I remember i had nightmares of T 800 face torn down. When i watched Terminator 2 when i was 12 i my terminator nightmares ended and made me very happy. Perfect perfection.
I had a different experience, I watched T2 first and I was terrified of the T-1000, not even the T-800 stopped me from getting scared of it because of how Filmento described T-1000 as a strategic brute force that is impossible to fight against head on.
Then I watched the first Terminator, I was a bit frightened by the stop-motion skeleton.
5! I was 9. He pulled the hart out of Bill Paxton. Scary stuff.
I watched that hardcare R stuff way too early. But because that it is most fuzziest and soft hearthwarming childlike memory.
This is the strongest finnish accent i have heard in a long time.
Olen samaa mieltä. Tuo jätkä on 100% suomalainen.
I can’t believe this analysis is 1 week old. It just shows how well terminator 2 aged.
It's another example of why James Cameron knows how to make a good movie.
Release the drone
It's funny how basically
T1: horror
T2: action
Alien 1: horror
Alien 2: action
Just me ? And I loved all of Thoses movies, especially the seconds
Not just you, noticed that years ago.
I guess you could find that pattern in even more franchises, to a lesser degree. Wherever the first movie is about surviving a threat and the second about fighting it.
I can do one better.
1: horror/thriller
2: action
3: comedy
4: tragedy
Its true for anlot of series. Like leathal weapon, rambo, die hard.... the list goes on
yeah, in games too.
Left 4 Dead: horror
Left 4 dead 2: action
It is like the First movie is about the tragedy and the Second movie is about dealing with the tragedy. That is Just masterpiece work.
@@arthurfortes8398 spitting facts
T2 is still my favourite movie of all time but I think the reason the action for me is so good is that it isnt crazy over the top like every action movie is now. James Cameron always seems to keep his action close to what physically could happen. Obviously there are scenes you can knit pick ( Harley davidson jump etc) but its all within the realm of realism and movies like Fast and the furious being so successful nowadays makes movie companies not care about realism. As long as it makes money.
I love how you side by sided the progression of Arnold’s changes thru action…i always wondered why it was my favorite terminator and why I loved Arnold so much in the movie…the commitment to writing the story thru action defining character not action and character separated also made the story feel realistic which is something the only salvation ever really approached since(not as well tho)
The neat philosophy of the movie is that Arnold ends up being part of a team that uplifts eachother. The T-1000 is menacing because it's a perfectly self-sustaining, fully rounded killer machine: strategy, deceit, strength and durability.
Arnold has only strength and durability, but through learning and the help of the humans that, comparably, have no strength nor durability, they succeed in defeating a foe that should be far more powerful than them on paper
So, basically... Yay, teamwork!
At this point I think filmento could write a better movie than Jk. Rowling
Then again, who couldn't?
"Dumbledore was a Krakozhian voodoo shaman all along" - Filmento
She copied everything off of Tolkien.
@@dominicpaladino1227 no offense but literally every fantasy novel since LOTRs can have this said about them.
@@aashiv93 hagrid is a gay black single mother
-jk Rowling
Tom "f*cking crazy" Cruise..... The last hope in a cgi world
Literally!
Jackie Chan would like a word with you...
Yeah, they just CGI his old, wrinkly ass so he looks good doing his own stunts.
Tom Cruise and his M:I team,plus Stahelski/Leitch AKA the guys behind the John Wick franchise are the only ones in Hollywood who still know how to make a kickass action movie.
Even Cameron himself has forgotten how to do it. Just watch his Blue Alien Smurf movie,it looks like a cutscene for a 7nd generation videogame by now.
no, Christopher "the GOAT" Nolan
With CGI I just can't feel the mass of the object. They're just on screen and not "in" the screen.
The failure of CGI is that, as a ”simulation of reality”, it fails to fool our senses most of the time.
But it’s always a matter of how you use it. For example, Harvey Dent’s burnt face in The Dark Knight is entirely made in cgi. I do cgi, and I always wondered how they made that practically. Never crossed my mind that it was made in cgi, since I know how to do it and found it too real for being cgi. And it is. And the movie is 12 years old.
A good director knows how to use cgi for the benefit of the movie. In T2 you already have many scenes that look great that are made in cgi (mainly the T1000). And that was 1991.
@@RaulGarfias It seems to work best when used sparingly in conjunction with other special effects techniques.
Dinoslay That’s right, but even then it’s not so easy to achieve an unnoticeable blend between the two. And you can have entire shots made in cgi that look and feel real, that “fool” the viewer. It’s a matter of making the right choice as a director. Cgi is a tool, a great one, but it sticks like a sore thumb when used poorly, and shines like this movie when used correctly.
Did you know that those "time-travel suits" in Avengers Endgame are entirely cgi?
You're bringing me to tears of joy with this incredibly satisfying declaration of WHY this is an eternal masterpiece. Seriously, this movie has been me and my sister's movie ever since I was 12 and she was 9 (lol "parenting" in the 90s, what's that), and I am NEVER bored when I watch it, year after year. I'm still just as excited as the first time for every single scene. Mas-ter-piece.
ALSO by the way thank you for talking about the music, so spot on (and reviews often miss talking about music altogether, which is such a shame)
If that leather gloved thumb sticking up as it dips into that molten lava doesnt put a lump in your throat then you must be a machine yourself. Great Movie!
Saw this in the cinema when I was 19 about 5 times when it came out in '91. Haven't seen anything better since.
This movie is a cinematic masterpiece that will stand the test of time.
The magic in this movie is the practical effects. This is what sets it above any Terminator movie in the franchise and is what makes the movie so special
'...an everlasting cinematic gift from God' **angels singing** LOL I totally agree!
You explain so well couldn't have said it better myself in the summary: action has to mean something and have motivation behind it
I saw T2 when it first released. My friends and I had no access to spoilers so we went crazy when it was revealed that Arnie was the good guy. Great intro if you've seen the first film and not had T2 spoiled
"I know now why you cry, but it is something I can never do..."
You're by far my favorite film UA-camr
I was about to say the same!!
thanks!
Agree
The two Terminator films are a great two movie series. It’s a shame they only made the two but there’s really nothing more you could do to the series without diminishing it.
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The gun sounds in T2 were very satisfying, the audio alone is such gold
The film quality of this movie is truly incredible. It looks better than the majority of modern movies! It’s aged beautifully! It’s like it was 4K before 4K was even a thing!
8:27 This is how you subvert expectations, by giving each character-developing-scene a twist of its own. As a viewer you are first like "What?", and when the scene ends you are like "Of course!".
Another great example is the "He'll live."-scene.
0:47 Pauses video because realizes hasn’t watched in over 2 years... Once again shocked at how good it was...Continues watching...> So worth it.
What?
Movie CGI and effects is like music today. Its so perfect and flawless it becomes lifeless and flat..
I don't remember how old I was when I watched T2 for the first time. Probably 10 or more, but Robert Patrick as the T-1000 was menacing. Bravo!
James Cameron was the kingpin of that 1980s - 1990s spectacle action movie era. He really defined something with Terminator 2. A great movie.
That line from John wishing he could meet his real dad and the Terminator telling him he will makes me mad that Terminator Salvation wasn't solely focused on future John Connor having to protect and inspire Kyle Reese without getting too close to him to effect his decision to send him back. If that had been the crux of the movie and there would have been none of the Tranformers robots or the wooden plank Avatar guy's character it would have been a good replacement for 3. It would need the future to line up better looks wise and be set almost exclusively at night too.
Terminator 2: Judgement Day is a masterpiece when it comes to action/science fiction genre. Absolutely everything about this film is great.
To date, this film is the culmination of special effects (practical effects and computer effects).
The use of effects in this film is not cheap or annoying, it only adds to the atmosphere of the film.
The end of Terminator 2 always makes me cry.
For me, the Terminator Saga ends with this film.
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My Terminator Trilogy is: Terminator, Terminator 2, and T2: 3D. T2 is so amazing, it has action and excellent story. It's so good
Mine here is T1, T2 and Terminator:Resistance the game. My personal canon, coming together as a perfect loop. Resistance shows us war in the future, and how Skynet sends Terminators in the past. And T1 shows us... T2 shows us... Do you really want me to go into T1 and T2 plot? :D
JC : "that's a helicopter going under a freeway overpass"
Watched T2 a couple of days ago once again. And goddman if it isn't one of the best movies ever made.
Filmento you should've shown that the the terminator smiled when he got the keys to the truck at 10:55
Thats so pure