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I really love your channel and your perspective on movies. The only thing I get kinda annoyed about is that you should put the movie/movies you are talking about in the title or the description. I also love your kinda weird sense of humour lol.
Hahaha. True. In fact, I read more about that doggo, and turns out that he was half wolf. He was more quiet than other dogs, and never wagged his tail. Production team said it was a very good and smart dog that always obeyed all commands, and it was a pleasure to work with him. Actors on set felt that he was actually uncanny, because he moved so quietly and rarely made a noise... Very fitting for the Thing.
IDK - his bank heist was dope, but Bane's entrance was something no filmmaker has done since. Well, until Nolan outdid his own damn self in Tenet that is. 😆 lmao
he's kinda all 3 a match for batman have spread chaos before even his reveal hate (not on any personal level but some may experience hate during his introduction)
He's more of an antagonist than a villain, but I love the way the Punisher is introduced in season 2 of Daredevil. First you see the damage he can cause. Then when Daredevil meets him, he gets put down hard. One of the best episodes is when he finally talks and they have the debate on the rooftop. He just seems like an unstoppable force the entire time.
@@401_jake A villain is a evil that needs to be stopped. An antagonist is just at odds with the protagonist, not evil. Just in the way. Sometimes a bad guy can be the protagonist, if they are the focus and their actions are moving the story forward. That would turn any good person an antagonist.
@@401_jake Villain is the opposite of a hero, exclusively in a story about evil vs good. Antagonist is the opponent or counterpart of the protagonist (the main character), or more precisely the character that forces the protagonist to overcome their struggle (often because they ARE the source of that struggle). Not all stories have a heroic character as the main character (Derry Girls), a lot of stories aren't even about good or evil but simply about a character trying to achieve something (Gilmore Girls). Sometimes, the main character is the villain, while the antagonist is the hero (Death Note), or both protagonist and antagonist have some shades of evil (Peaky Blinders). In romantic stories, the love interest could be argued to be the antagonist, because the struggle is to convince them to love the main character back. Antagonist/protagonist is also used to describe relationships in scenes, instead of the whole story, in a way that villain/hero can't: in Daredevil, Foggy discovers that his best friend Matt Murdock has actually lied to him for years about being Daredevil. He feels betrayed and angry. While in the overarching story Matt Murdock is the heroic protagonist, and Wilson Fisk is the villainous Antagonist, that one scene is about Foggy and his feelings. Foggy is the protagonist, and Matt, without being the villain, is the antagonist, because Foggy's struggle to overcome is that he needs to decide whether he can trust his best friend ever again. So there are just so many situations in which the Antagonist not just isn't, but also CAN'T be the villain. Simply because that's not what those words mean in all situations. Very VERY often, they are considered synonyms, in the most simplest understanding of storytelling. but they are not the same thing.
@@silverscorpio24 also "not part of a franchise" is a dumb qualification. Just because a character is a part of a larger story/based on an existing property doesnt mean there is 0 effort needed to translate them to the screen.
When I saw the film Se7en for the first time a few years ago, I already knew who the villain was due to spoilers, but that introduction still gave me chills despite already knowing who it was to begin with and it was so well done and effective that I will never forget it.
Are you talking Seven, or the Usual Suspects? I feel like it was pretty clear who the villain was in Seven when John Doe walked into the police station. The other movie was more constructed around that twist reveal, is why I'm asking.
I love when villains are introduced right away as someone that's clearly more powerful, stronger or smarter than the hero(es) (like Bill Cypher, Shredder, Thanos, etc...) because when we see the hero grown through the movie and defeats him (in a way that isn't a Deus Ex-Machina or with a Mary Sue), that legit makes you sweat the whole last fight.
One of my friends writes Doctor Who Fanfics, and a way i introduced a villain, was send a greatly weakened Villain against the main character and just have her win. Later on, when the villain was healed, he came back at her (main character was cocky and all "You actually showed up for a rematch?") and proceeded to wipe the floor with her
@Mcheetah Hahaha, you're totally right! XD It's incredible how formal education has fallen but alternative education, such as Filmento, are WAY better at actually effectively teaching concepts/writing strategies.
Here's a tip: A good introduction for any important character, is to reveal a small portion of them after the build up (just the legs walking in, or a shot of their back for example.) Then after the audience has had a teaser of what they look like you reveal their full appearance.
Or, in the words of our Lord and Saviour, Megamind: Oh, you're a villain all right, just not a SUPER one! Titan: Yeah? What's the difference? Megamind: PRE-SHUN-TATION!
There's literally a term called "The Worf Effect". It's basically the first part of showing how badass your hero is only for them to get stomped by the antagonist quickly. Often on Star Trek they would show Worf get his ass kicked to quickly show off how tough a new villain is. X-men does it too with Wolverine. God of War nailed it, but it works as long as it's not overdone.
Ha, you made me think of the Power Rangers. Every episode a new villain would appear and in the first fight he would always win really easily: That's how strong this new villain is!
The Worf Effect isn't _just_ the badass hero being beaten, it's when the supposedly badass character is defeated by villains so often that fans start to doubt if the character really is as badass as the series claims.
I recently ran a D&D game where I claimed to my players at the beginning that I would make this villain "irredeemable", as I had a problem in the past with them redeeming any bad guys I put in. I set up the quest so an important NPC, a pirate named Captain Danassi, was the main focus on the quest, he was trying to get revenge on this ghost pirate and the players were trying to help him get there. When they did get to the ghost pirate, it was revealed that Danassi actually owed his soul to the ghost, and he attempted to trade the souls of the PCs for his own. He ran off with the ship, and the second half of the game was chasing him down for revenge. Needless to say, my players regard Captain Danassi as the best villain I gave them.
There's another trick to introduce a villain that I like: Show the ABSURD power gap between him and the main characters, make him do something so stunning the audience wants to know how he did it and if the heroes will posibly be able to defead him. It isn't limited to action, for example: imagine a movie in which the MC is a cop and the villain is a thief, BUT, he stole an ENTIRE house without the neighbors noticing it. How the hell did he did that? How can a human be capable of that? It's an instant hook.
@@Nicholas_Chen_ Not necesarely OP, it can be mysterious to the point people think what they do is imposible, like the example of the man stealing the house, at the end of that episode the "villain" was just a human, but a very smart and cunning one
Playing dungeons and dragons as dm taught me more about villain development than a thousand hours of film study. Getting players to hate a character but not you (it's creator) is the greatest trick you can pull.
@@jimboringo9958 Agreed. Comics fans whining about the Mandarin fake-out ended up taking all the oxygen from that film when it was really good. And we're getting a "real" Mandarin now anyway
While I enjoy the film, you cannot convince me that Killian was a good villain. The build up was pretty effective, with the chilling videos and the destruction of Tony’s house, but all that hype is immediately shattered once we find out all of it is either fabricated, or part of Killian’s 13 year old temper tantrum for Tony not meeting him on the roof. Therefore the good introduction actively detriments the character, and lowers it from what would have been a mediocre villain in an otherwise okay story, down to a let-down.
one of my fave villains and how she was introduced is the Other Mother(Beldam) from Coraline. even before we meet any characters at the start of the movie, we´re introduced to a mix of motherly sweetness and something wrong. we don´t see her face but we see long thin hands made of sewing needles as she takes everything off a doll to make it look like the next victim while she is humming happily to a song, even when the worktable is old and dusty. we already know so much about her before we do get to meet her in the first part of act 2 but pretends to be a harmless mother who pulls the strings to get children close to her. it´s better to watch the movie to really see her alone.
I know this is something everyone realized, but can we just take a moment to appreciate that videos and channels like these are so greatly usable for D&D and how to make better stuff as a DM?
D&D is just novel writing where you're not the only one writing the story. That's a DM fact from a DM. Also: PSA, dont do joke campaigns. Just... dont. They're bad.
Doesn’t Rick and Morty do the same thing as the first way where is established is that the Rick is the smartest being in the multiverse basically is an omniscient god and then boom evil Morty outsmarts all of them
Something else the intro of thanos does is showing how strong he is. Sure he beat the hulk, which is all fine and dandy, but he also killed loki, which is something even the hulk couldn’t do. He killed the unkillable.
And killed Thor's bud, the eyeball guy. And Thor could do absolutely Nothing. Everything, till then, Thor was an unstoppable force. When he walked in, the day was saved. But Thanos killed his people, his friend, his brother and left him for dead, in space, alone. Hims a baaad man. (Was. RIP Thanos)
@@scratchsoft2347 I read and loved the stories of old Gods as a kid. Here's a thought. The ancient world had MORE advanced technology then we have now. Just anomolies littered around the world. But, some stories come thru on all religions and or countries. What if the Gods were realish, because the same number of... Gods, seem to pop up even in Hindi. Like all the crazy creatures, were actually real, just some crazy rich people who had the money for splicing and mixing DNA. And of course, let's make a bull and man... Thing. See what happens. (After born and eats people) JESUS that's horrifying. Well, make it something to live in. I created it, least I can do is keep it safe... And let it eat my enemies children.
@@scratchsoft2347 My favorite, Odin, Zeus, they almost have the same number of... Gods. Same with Chinese Gods, Hindi, etc... They have stones that weigh hundreds of tons that we can't lift with today's tech. Or the Chinese swords that had nanotech involved in their making, and I think we can replicate them, but for the longest time, couldn't. And pyarmids. Were not even trying to duplicate that, because we can't. So with that in mind, these Gods, (could of just been rich humans who had the money, Starks and Wayne's) had adventures. Got into shenanigans and then 14,500 years ago a meteor hit the earth that burned like 70% of the world. The civilizations would of limped on, but then finding food, shelter would of been higher on the list then UA-cam. Then another hit, 2,500 years after that. Not exactly sure the time but these are verified. That last hit then put the human race on reset and we went back to the stone age and forgot everything we were. Now, we just have stories, of monsters, giants, remember when they cloned that sheep? What did they call it? It's unthinkable to think that some shady government isn't making hybrid humans for warfare. Totally unthinkable...
@@scratchsoft2347 It's all out there. Just have to look. A layer of char was found that was like a inch thick. When meteorites strike, certain material is left in a pattern, which they found. In china, there's a mountain that's made of tubes, TUBES, some millimeters thick with 20% material that we don't know what it is. I just find it fascinating, and I wouldn't mind finding the Real Thors Hammer. I'm not going to even try to spell it. Starts with an M.
I also like when the villain is introduced as a hero... So you see all these great amazing feats and actions and start to have a bond with this person following them around in their day to day good doer ways....then behind closed doors it's either revealed or they do something so fucked up and despicable it overshadows all the good deeds or makes all the good deeds really messed up.
Thanos did all 3 in Infinity War. He had a perfect introduction. 1. "You but more": Has a fight with the Hulk in the first scene and wins with brute strength. 2. "Past evils incarnate": Thanos attacking earth in Avengers 1 and his ominous presence throughout the MCU 3. "That red feeling": Kills Loki, one of our favorite antiheroes, in the first scene.
Well The third one might come to the fact of who he killed, because of the snap He killed many heroes including Spiderman, becoming a villain whom both the fans and Iron Man hate.
The inversion of the theft-of-power introduction: the villain who is exactly right to crush your protagonist because he is the inversion of the protagonist. Think Clubber Lang in Rocky 3, who was dangerous not because he had what the hero had, but because he had what the hero /lacked/-in this case, the hunger for victory, the eye of the tiger. Another variation on this theme is the villain who lacks what the hero /has/-almost always morals and ethics, such as your own favorite Moriarty v Holmes. And you’re missing something huge here: villains introduced by the characteristic entry action generally reserved for protagonists. Any good hero introduction is a good villain introduction as well, when handled correctly. Think a giant spaceship running down a little one, a desperate and hopeless defense, a captured princess, slaughtered rebels, stormtroopers-and walking in over the bodies of the dead, the person large and in charge responsible for every moment of the movie so far steps in and surveys his victory. The music stings as the camera freezes on him to let us know-everything in motion is in motion because of him. This man is power incarnate. And arguably the most notorious villain of the 20th century was born. I don’t even need to say his name. That’s how big a shadow he casts. “ I would argue, in fact, that villains require far more thought and care with introductions than heroes do. They’re a far more critical part of the story. Diehard could have been Diehard with Arnold or Stallone-but it couldn’t have been Diehard without Rickman. Period.
I've always said the the bad guys are more interesting. They have such broad motivations, as opposed to the good guys (pun intended), who merely want to "stop crime." World domination, revenge, hubris, greed, mental illness, these are all reasons for supervillains to do what they do. At the very least, they're proactive, they set plans in motion, whereas the heroes are REactive, they don't make a move until the villains take the first step. Moreover, the heroes always play by the rules (unless they're considered anti-heroes), the villains do not, which means they are far more unpredictable. Sure, Batman is cool because of his relentless dedication and hi-tech gadgets, but you know he'll never kill anyone. The Joker, however? No one around him is safe.
A great example of gaining instant hatred for the villain is in Once Upon a Time In the West, where Frank and his gang murders the whole Mcbain family. Then ruthlessly murders the child and to make it more shocking it was played by Henry Fonda who always played the guy who stood for what was right. Another great way to buildup the villain is to have him/her being buildup through character interactions and see their reactions of fear as they speak of the villain. A great example of this is shown in Sexy Beast Don Logan's intro. The characters talk about him in a tone of fear of what's to come when he arrives. He represents the violent past of Gal coming back to haunt him. Its a simple scene of him walking through the airport but his buildup, the character mannnerisms and the fact that all the characters are feeling uncomfortable at his presence makes it such a great way to introuduce the villain. Also througout the film the main character Dove is shown as a chill and easygoing person. Don's the opposite he's all over the place, erratic and short tempered and vulgar.
11:44 _"If John Doe just showed up at the beginning without us first having experienced his handiwork I guarantee you we wouldn't still be talking about him"._ This is essentially exactly how _The Blacklist_ begins, and that seemed pretty effective in its own way. Would be interested in hearing your insights on how the two compare.
Filmento: "Build up only works when it builds up to something." DCEU: "Write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN." Edit: Thanks for all the likes fam. I'd like to thank the Academy.
Its amazing how naughty dog basically set up a villain through the hate method so perfectly but then redirected all that hate towards them by painting that villain as a justified hero main character
But somehow it works in the case of MCU's Thanos. When he appeared, he killed Loki (a fan-favorite character) and yet many audiences can sympathize with Thanos.
@@kevinclement1533 yes but that was achieved by making the villains motivation clear and understandable. Notice i still said villain because despite the good intentioned motivation the movies never try to paint thanos as a good guy. Naughty dog forced the player to play as abby and shoehorned an "abby is a hero for killing your beloved character" story down their throats. Therefore the hate towards thanos stays with him but abbys hate has been directed towards the publisher as we've seen I suppose the key difference would be that those who sympathise with thanos do so of their own decision having seen the movie and his motivation. But in TLOU2 the story clearly tries to make you sympathise with her and make you accept that she was justified
@@domino6918 Agreed. the simplify of differences between Abby and Thanos is story never try to paint him as "good" guy. just understandable , sympathizable villain. no "ill will" behind his action. not hatred , not greed , not loath. he just want universe to be better place. Thanos adopt/help kids like abby? sure. but also force them to grow up to be his warrior and abuse them to no end. he cut nebula's limb of every time she lose to gamora. he did kill gamora for soul stone despite he really did care for her. but Abby case? "Look, i know you mad at her. but she rescue two persons and also petting dog. so please dont hate her so much for killed joel and support her along the road to be the next main character in next game "
@@domino6918 @Pimp My Reich its funny that you see Abby's story as being shoehorned down your throat. To me, although her arc was deliberate, it didn't feel at all shoehorned, and it didn't feel as though it made her a hero. Instead it felt like it was an exploration of how viewing different viewpoints of an action or a story can result in us as the audience to empathise with different characters. By the end of that game I felt for both Ellie and Abby, and when the final duel happened, I was doing everything I could to avoid ramming that knife into Abbys chest. To me...that's perfect storytelling.
I disagree with mission impossible, the fact that Solomon Lane was there, was allowed to kill a junior operative in front of a powerless Ethan Hunt at the very beginning of the movie and that Lane's organization meant to set all of that up, was very good for me.
Yeah, but Lane's build up was more the point of the first one. Where you build up Lane through the hero. Seeing Lane easily trap Hunt and infiltrate the organization really set up the threat of Lane. But for the third point, making the villain do something so despicable that the audience immediately hates him, not so much. Because we don't really care about that operative and when he kills her, it's like "ok, that's pretty sad, I guess."
I think one of the issues with Abby is that, they tried to make her a “sympathetic” villain. Like you said in the video, “first impressions matter.” And what Abby did, well, I didn’t really try to see her side of the argument because I was more interested in revenge. Naughty Dog said that they wanted her to be like Ellie, but like you said. When a random new character shows up, do some personal shit, you’re gonna want that new guy dead. I felt like the game left a bad taste in my mouth cause it tried to tell me that “Abby is also a good guy and Ellie is bad.” And they tried **INSANELY** hard to try and get the player to like the character by having her pet dogs and people going “oh hey! It’s my best friend in the whole world!!” Which didn’t stick with me. It’s a shame because TLoU2 could’ve easily been a solid game but there were some story decisions that didn’t make it work. If it was it’s own standalone game where we ONLY play as Abby and slowly build her up like how we played with Joel and Ellie in the first game, THEN it might’ve been really well developed, but it didn’t and it just rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. My two cents but I really love your videos, when I try to write. I take some time out to watch your videos and build the story up. Keep up the awesome work Filmento!!
How is that an issue that they tried to make her a sympathetic villian? I mean. They tried and they did it. The end. Even more - she's not even a sympathetic villian, she's a heroine.
@Людина Незламна she might be a heroine to you and others but to others, she’s a selfish character that had zero development. She picked up Lev and defected sure, but she didn’t seem bothered with what she did. Plus the distasteful sex scene with her and Owen was super off putting. Specially with what they were talking about BEFORE they got all hot and bothered. Again, each to their own. They did split a fan base on if Abby was a good character and if her actions were justified. Personally, I didn’t like her and playing her was more of a chore more than anything
@@gatorkid3653 yup... would've worked better if LOU2 was entirely from Abbys perspective, and right at the end we finally find out she's after Joel and kills him... then sequel baits LOU3 to be about Ellie getting revenge. Probably would've been too predictable but I guessed she was looking for Joel in the first 5 minutes anyway. They might've been able to write it in a way that it wouldn't have been obvious, but probably not. Either way we would've grown to like/love Abby and sympathised with her more.
@@SA80TAGE Nah, a big problem with TLOU2 is, that it's a game. They put Abby out there, make you hate her and then you have to play as her. in a game you connect and identify much more with a character and you don't want to do that with a character you already hate. That's why we hated Abby that much, cause we connected and idenitfied with Joel so much in the first game, we loved him even tho he did bad things and then Abby killed him before she herself as character was build up. Also the problem is that if you introduce Abby the way they did, you just hate her and nothing will change your mind. Abby should have been built up first as a likeable character who teams up with Ellie which left Joel after she learned what he has done. Then later in the game you would come across Joel and it turns out that he killed Abbys father and she kills him even tho Ellie who became her friend begs her not to. Now you and the characters are conflicted about Abby and you can go on with the story of Ellie hunting Abby and even have a similar ending with Ellie sparing Abby because we as audience feel a kind of sympathy with Abby we are never going to have in the real TLOU2.
5:24 That dude's reaction seemed like he was really into that moment of it being a big deal in the game.. that was awesome. I do stuff like that when I'm really into certain parts of a game 😎👍
Thats the horrific actions category. I've never seen 7, but the second it showed that picture i hated the vilain. The other two are gross, but thats just off the charts.
I still believe that first scene is what won him the Oscar. His whole performance in Django Unchained was better. But he was extraordinary in these few minutes.
Abby has a pretty freaking solid foundation for a villain, and TLOU2 stupidly decided to spend it's second half pretending that foundation doesn't exist.
One of the best villains that I have seen is Handsom Jack from Borderlands 2, and learning more at Borderlands The Pre-Sequel, him being a presence of the "heros" made him memorable and very scary sometimes.
Handsome Jack is a masterpiece of writing, one of the main reasons why Borderlands is such an amazing series. Even if he doesn’t appear in 3, the AI that was made by Nakayama in the Pre Sequel appears as a legendary talking gun in 3 called the Jackhammer, and it’s like hearing an old friend over the phone
18:40 as you said, the audience won’t be satisfied until the villain who committed such a horrible action is dealt with. From what I’ve heard the villain is not dealt with, we spend an obscene amount of time in which any heartstring is pulled to manipulate the audience about caring for her and the audience is alienated from the old protagonists to make you "forgive" the villain
I hate that movie... It pretends like the stuff they do is like magician stuff, but most of it is complete horseshit. I was waiting for the big reveal that they were actually wizards, but i might have missed scene
Another great thing about God of War was that even though Kratos is big buff dude he still has a vulnerability: his son. All the fights before Baldur's introduction was about protecting him from strong but yet somewhat mindless non-humans trying to survive in their own way! So when Baldur comes in and says "Why are there two beds in there?", we (like Kratos) feel threatened and vulnerable that he might go for this young child. And that is what makes Baldur the villian, someone willing to target specifically what you care about.
The criminally underrated Joel Schuhmacher Movie Phone Booth with Colin Farrell is also a good example. In that movie Colin Farrell is introduced as an arrogant, rich, little Asshole, who cheats on his wife and is just treats others bad. Then he goes into a Phone Booth, to talk to his mistress Katie Holmes, until someone else gets into the line and tells him that he has him at aim with a rifle and now forces him, into becoming a better person and says that he would kill him if he would leave the Phone Booth. As Colin Farrell gets rude, he tells him that he no amateur and has done the same thing to multiple others like him and shoots of a small part of his ear to show him that he is serious. He plays with his emotions, he even straight up kills someone in front of him, causing the police to appear and him being framed. The Caller just won‘t stop taunting him. At a certain point he gives him the option of choosing if he should kill his wife or his mistress. Until at the he honestly is a better person. At the End he shortly visits Colin Farrell and it turns out, he was Kiefer Sutherland all along and tells him that he would come again, if he wouldn’t continue being like he is from now on. For the entire Movie, we haven’t seen Kiefer Sutherland and only heard his voice and aside from that Ear Shooting Part, he never hurt him, but made him so psychologically scarred, that he is now a better person (don’t you dare tell me now, that this is a Saw ripoff. This movie came out 2 Years earlier ). This movie is why in my opinion, even though he made B&R, I still think Joel Schuhmacher was a great director. May he rest in Peace.
@@sirunbekannt5653 hahaha yeah you did you said don't you dare tell me it's a saw ripoff and that guys like "yep that's what it sounds like" its nothing like Saw really it's a good movie too
Just realised Thanos' intro fits in all of these He hands hulk an ass whoopin Hes been hyped by movies before Infinity War He killed Loki and most of the Asgardians
I know that in rogue nation we don’t know the agent that well, but the thing is that Ethan Hunt will do anything to prevent unneeded casualties or civilian casualties. And there was nothing that he could do about this.
Kratos getting smacked by a literal god that feels no pain at all is quite different from Thanos who is the strongest Eternal wielding a sword likely made from Uru metal breaking Cap's shield that is made from vibranium. Cap is still a man after all.
The absurd thing is that after making us hate Abby for what she has done, the game goes on an tries every trick imaginable to make us sympathize with her. Saving a zebra, playing fetch with her dog... twice, playing as her character through half of the game, having flashback in the flashback and then making us trying to kill the main character... I'm sorry, your introduction was way too strong.
@@radekseky4571 Well yes, but actually no. As ham-fisted as it was for Abby to do "the thing" (from terrible writing to character assassination) , while it did technically succeed in getting us to hate Abby (and the authors), they then just decide to pull a 180 to get us to like her, which at that point is just impossible. I have yet to see a single person playing the game that didn't stick to hating Abby all the way throughout the game. Sure, you could say that the intro "succeeded" into getting you to hate her, but the game itself failed miserably with what it tried to accomplish, mostly due to sheer incompetence.
Betrayal. I don't think it's coincident that Dante put traitors like Judas, Brutus and Cassius were put into deepest depth of Hell. I believe betrayal of someone you should be able to trust is one of the easiest way to make a villain memorable, and detestable. Even if his villain role was short lived, Tucker is one of the most hated character in all of anime. In FMA (spoilers ahead) her turned his only daughter and family dog into talking chimera (something he already did to his wife). While objectively it's not the worst thing a bad guy can do (number of victims are very low), it was that he did it to someone we all understand he should had done everything to protect. We all understand at least on surface level the relationship of parent and child, so then breaking it so casually feels so much worse than if it had happened to some random person. Another great example of this is Griffith from Berserk. During the Eclipse he literally sacrificed Band of the Hawk, his loyal soldiers, just to get personal power. Again, numerically it's far from worst atrocity in stories, but because there was this close bond between Griffith and Band of the Hawk, this moment felt so much worse and personal than it would had felt, if Griffith had killed larger number of secondary characters. You can also throw Aizen from Bleach here too. He was build as reliable, intelligent and calm person, until he was "killed". We get to see how this event affected everyone, so we understood how important character Aizen was in Soul Society. Then when we find out he's not dead, he fucking stabs Momo, a person who loved Aizen most, and after that we all knew Aizen is a heartless bastard.
even though i totally aggre, i also think this enters in the category of hate against the villain, so that´s why i think he didn´t put any of this cases or more in the video
See also: the remake of The Italian Job. Ed Norton betrays the rest of the crew within the first 10mins, so he is immediately hated for the rest of the movie Btw, the Statute of Limitations for spoilers is 1 year, so seeing as how this movie came out 17yrs ago, you should have seen it by now
Darth Vader. Walking though those doors after the magnitude of seeing a star destroyer for the first time, easily over powering the ship, slaughter of the rebel troops. Then to cap it all. He crushes a man throat lifting him in the air with one hand. Also that sound still gives me a reaction. It’s probably the most violent feeling scene in all of Star Wars.. you feel that sound ..
7:20 Honestly my favourite version of this is in Gears Of War 1 where you spend the first 40 minutes absolutely fucking decimating the Locus like they’re a daily annoyance and you start to think “how did this war get so dire”. Then Anthony gets his head popped like a grape establishing “oh shit they’re a very real threat”. Later in the very same mission after merc’ing even stronger enemy’s and establishing *The Hammer Of Dawn* you start to wonder again “How did it get so dire? We have this fuck off gun”... Then General Fucking Ramm shows up in one fire fight like any other where the gears seem to be doing fine, but he just *walks* up and kills your commanding officer, who over the mission has been shown to be very competent, *like it was nothing* . This happens again in Gears 2 with Tai who if anyone has ever played it, you know exactly what I’m talking about
Can we just point out that in all 3 of the first point's examples, they're sequels, so not only do we have the introduction of the movie to establish our hero's abilities, but also the previous entries in that series.
Just another example: "PotC: Dead Men Tell No Tales" introduced the villain, Salazar, in a great way as well: with invigorating music, a mysterious presence, and the way he cuts down the British when he arrives is awesome
In my opinion, Bourne 2 could work like that, since it's not a video game, and also because we were only in Bourne's perspective for only like 2 hours in Bourne Identity. In TLoU 1, we literally played Joel for like (4-7?) hours, and then somehow, we killed somebody's father, and the daughter got mad, lol.
@@TheFikri136 So if someone killed your father and stopped any attempt to create a cure for humanity, you wouldn't then kill that man? TLOU 2 is a perfect reflection on what it is to be human. Stupid and flawed. Tommy ruined his marriage to the point they split apart. Ellie lost 2 fingers and was left alone in the end. Did Ellie once ask Abby why she killed Joel? Nope. Ellie doesn't even know Abby is the doctor's daughter. What do you think would happen if Ellie did kill Abby? That everything was going to be good again? You think Abby killing Joel solved her problems with her PTSD? Hell, why do you think Ellie started playing the guitar in the end? Because she didn't know what to do. She felt empty and grabbed the first thing she could to get her mind on something. Look at Thor after killing Thanos. He got his revenge, but he still became severely depressed and turned to food and video games for comfort. That's what revenge does to people. It's a false accomplishment. A disguise for nothing
@@lekrieg8618 Abby killed a random person? Plus, no one really cared about Ellie. Ellie is a static character in both of the games. She doesn't change. But Joel is the dynamic character. We see him change during the game and he's the one we care about. I noticed you didn't respond to my question either. About how if someone killed your father, you wouldn't kill that person? The movie Punisher was ok but the series one is a better argument. In the movie it ends with him getting his revenge. It doesn't show what happens after the fact. He has nothing to do after. Hell, he nearly kills himself from the emptiness and the thoughts of his dead family. In the series we see him get his revenge with Billy and he just goes from city to city having beers at bars and not doing much of anything. He was looking for purpose and found nothing. He found someone who promptly got shot and had to go to the hospital, but nothing else. Thanos doesn't get revenge either. He's above such little feelings. That's why he had a plan after he snapped his fingers
The hate intro also can work wellllll into the movie too. Like it doesnt have to be just an intro, it could be a plot twist as well. For example, Ego from Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Ik many people dont like him, but I personally found him very effective, given the very sudden and insidious fact he casually drops as star lord is being indoctrinated. That being, that he gave Peter's mom cancer because wanted her to forget him. When that reveal happened in the theater, I instantly felt how peter felt, shifting from "ego really isnt that bad, he just has a big, well, ego" to "oh fuck this guy, hes gotta die now. Like yeah I knew ego would be the villain cuz comics, but like thanos, they took his evil in such an interesting direction, and it was such a sudden reveal, he sticks with me as one of the best marvel villains to date. Also, speaking of thanos, I'd argue his intro was all three of them you mentioned. The hero but better: beating up the hulk. Set up and pay off: hes been teased by gamora as the most cruel warlord in the universe, and hes teased as such a big threat in the comics (granted that one is only if you know the comics). And hate: killing loki.
Ngl, I personally like Handsome Jack and Glados. Although not film and not flashy, they set a tone throughout the entire game that just hits the right notes for me.
My Favorite Villain Introduction would be Logan facing off against X-24. knowing how strong and ferocious Logan was during his younger years so having him fight a younger version of himself had me thinking "How the F is he gonna beat that?" it was working with information we already had on the Hero off of all the years watching x-men films so having X-24 give Logan the staredown as he walked down the staircase I also knew it was going to be the biggest Fight Logan was going to have if he decided to take it. it also helped that we had info about the movie itself being Rated-R. was one of the best moments I've seen in villain introductions. that's where I started my own journey on how to introduce a villain and I'm glad that I get to learn more from a different viewpoint(Filmento)
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I really love your channel and your perspective on movies. The only thing I get kinda annoyed about is that you should put the movie/movies you are talking about in the title or the description. I also love your kinda weird sense of humour lol.
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“Here’s how you introduce a villain.”
Cuts to a Raid: Shadow Legends ad.
H O N E S T L Y 🙄🙄🙄 SMH
Same
He is the ultimate villain
For me it was warthunder
Rad shady lemons.
Filmento: Mediocre, forgettable villains to join the ranks of Malekith-"
Filmento: *shows Ronan the Accuser*
Me: Well played.
I actually didn't noticed until i saw your comment. 🤣
isn't it the running joke for this series?
@@jrbudoybudoy One of the running jokes.
holy shiv I didnt realize it either... that was not Dr. Who !!!
Ronan is the Black Elf guy, you are wrong
The greatest villain introduction for me is one that seems completely innocent. That lone husky at the beginning of The Thing (1982)...
Hahaha. True.
In fact, I read more about that doggo, and turns out that he was half wolf. He was more quiet than other dogs, and never wagged his tail. Production team said it was a very good and smart dog that always obeyed all commands, and it was a pleasure to work with him. Actors on set felt that he was actually uncanny, because he moved so quietly and rarely made a noise... Very fitting for the Thing.
Joker? he's innocent for his mental illness
Yes
Dude that was perfect. The Thing is probably the closest thing to a perfect horror movie.
One of my personal favorites for villain introductions is in the animated film Rango when Rattle Snake Jack come in
The Joker in The Dark Knight.
Easily one of the best introductions ever
Ha ha ha ha ha … and I thought my jokes were bad…
IDK - his bank heist was dope, but Bane's entrance was something no filmmaker has done since. Well, until Nolan outdid his own damn self in Tenet that is. 😆 lmao
Bane, though. Unreal introduction. "Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask. "
@@akwilson1676 "You're a big guy". "Fo yuuuuuu". Best introduction ever
he's kinda all 3
a match for batman
have spread chaos before even his reveal
hate (not on any personal level but some may experience hate during his introduction)
He's more of an antagonist than a villain, but I love the way the Punisher is introduced in season 2 of Daredevil. First you see the damage he can cause. Then when Daredevil meets him, he gets put down hard. One of the best episodes is when he finally talks and they have the debate on the rooftop. He just seems like an unstoppable force the entire time.
Anti-Hero?
Villain and antagonist are the same thing
@@401_jake A villain is a evil that needs to be stopped. An antagonist is just at odds with the protagonist, not evil. Just in the way. Sometimes a bad guy can be the protagonist, if they are the focus and their actions are moving the story forward. That would turn any good person an antagonist.
The amount of people who don't know what an antagonist and a villain is, baffles me.
@@401_jake Villain is the opposite of a hero, exclusively in a story about evil vs good. Antagonist is the opponent or counterpart of the protagonist (the main character), or more precisely the character that forces the protagonist to overcome their struggle (often because they ARE the source of that struggle). Not all stories have a heroic character as the main character (Derry Girls), a lot of stories aren't even about good or evil but simply about a character trying to achieve something (Gilmore Girls). Sometimes, the main character is the villain, while the antagonist is the hero (Death Note), or both protagonist and antagonist have some shades of evil (Peaky Blinders). In romantic stories, the love interest could be argued to be the antagonist, because the struggle is to convince them to love the main character back.
Antagonist/protagonist is also used to describe relationships in scenes, instead of the whole story, in a way that villain/hero can't: in Daredevil, Foggy discovers that his best friend Matt Murdock has actually lied to him for years about being Daredevil. He feels betrayed and angry. While in the overarching story Matt Murdock is the heroic protagonist, and Wilson Fisk is the villainous Antagonist, that one scene is about Foggy and his feelings. Foggy is the protagonist, and Matt, without being the villain, is the antagonist, because Foggy's struggle to overcome is that he needs to decide whether he can trust his best friend ever again.
So there are just so many situations in which the Antagonist not just isn't, but also CAN'T be the villain. Simply because that's not what those words mean in all situations. Very VERY often, they are considered synonyms, in the most simplest understanding of storytelling. but they are not the same thing.
Malekith is so forgettable as a villain that he put Ronan on screen when he mentioned him and nobody even noticed
Who is Ronan?
@@bilalbaig8586 why is ronan?
Oh, fuck, you are right!
Mr Sunday Movies did the same thing lol
I CANT REMEMBER WHO MEL IS!! OH MAAAAAANNNNNN I’m really trying right now!
Forget just villains
Writing any good character seems to be hard for Hollywood these days
Bad = “HEH HEH, I’M BAD!”
True Evil = “You May Sympathize with me and in the end, you may even feel bad for me. I am what I am.”
That's BS. Look harder.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom Name one well-written character that wasn't based off a franchise.
@@silverscorpio24 Howard Ratner from Uncut Gems
@@silverscorpio24 also "not part of a franchise" is a dumb qualification. Just because a character is a part of a larger story/based on an existing property doesnt mean there is 0 effort needed to translate them to the screen.
The faint “no god please no” meme heard in the background when bournes girlfriend gets lmfao
When I saw the film Se7en for the first time a few years ago, I already knew who the villain was due to spoilers, but that introduction still gave me chills despite already knowing who it was to begin with and it was so well done and effective that I will never forget it.
Are you talking Seven, or the Usual Suspects? I feel like it was pretty clear who the villain was in Seven when John Doe walked into the police station. The other movie was more constructed around that twist reveal, is why I'm asking.
I like to think the 7 replaces the letter m.
@@elijahcandage shut up lol
I'm not an author or screenwriter, I'm just looking for ways to improve my D&D npcs
relatable
I'm aiming to be a better writer by watching stuff like this.
That’s fair
Me too @@explodingtomahawks7589
understandable, have a nice day.
I love when villains are introduced right away as someone that's clearly more powerful, stronger or smarter than the hero(es) (like Bill Cypher, Shredder, Thanos, etc...) because when we see the hero grown through the movie and defeats him (in a way that isn't a Deus Ex-Machina or with a Mary Sue), that legit makes you sweat the whole last fight.
One of my friends writes Doctor Who Fanfics, and a way i introduced a villain, was send a greatly weakened Villain against the main character and just have her win. Later on, when the villain was healed, he came back at her (main character was cocky and all "You actually showed up for a rematch?") and proceeded to wipe the floor with her
The way they defeated Bill was very, very cool.
Filmento is like free mini-courses in how to write a particular story element.
Keep up the awesome work mate! :)
@Mcheetah
Hahaha, you're totally right! XD
It's incredible how formal education has fallen but alternative education, such as Filmento, are WAY better at actually effectively teaching concepts/writing strategies.
Agreee...
Unconsciously, I learn to make a story from this channel...
@@anggafuse8568
We all do :)
Here's a tip:
A good introduction for any important character, is to reveal a small portion of them after the build up (just the legs walking in, or a shot of their back for example.)
Then after the audience has had a teaser of what they look like you reveal their full appearance.
great advice
This is something Steven Spielberg does a lot. Not only for villains, but also for the main characters. Like the Indiana Jones first introduction.
It worked for Jaws
It worked for Diavolo, DIO, and Kira
On top of a giant robot
Moriarty does this in the show and the movie really well, beating Sherlock , who has been established to be a genius hero, at his own game.
'Ah, the boxing champion of Cambridge'
Dr. Evil. The way he supports his chin with his pinkie you can tell that he's evil.
Or, in the words of our Lord and Saviour, Megamind: Oh, you're a villain all right, just not a SUPER one!
Titan: Yeah? What's the difference?
Megamind: PRE-SHUN-TATION!
That was such a great scene!
Bahahaha so true
Perfection
sometimes I skip right to that scene when I watch it. It's really awesome.
@#Here's Your TRIGGERWARNING You’re Amazon Prime
There's literally a term called "The Worf Effect". It's basically the first part of showing how badass your hero is only for them to get stomped by the antagonist quickly. Often on Star Trek they would show Worf get his ass kicked to quickly show off how tough a new villain is. X-men does it too with Wolverine. God of War nailed it, but it works as long as it's not overdone.
Ha, you made me think of the Power Rangers. Every episode a new villain would appear and in the first fight he would always win really easily: That's how strong this new villain is!
@@lincolnduke Haha, exactly like that. Or Pro Wrestling.
@@lincolnduke or Digimon
The Worf Effect isn't _just_ the badass hero being beaten, it's when the supposedly badass character is defeated by villains so often that fans start to doubt if the character really is as badass as the series claims.
@@CollinBuckman hah, good point.
This guy talking about how to build up an introduction to a villain, while building up the smoothest sponsor segment in one video
What a mad lad
i love seeing content creators get creative with the sponsor segments lol
Nice username lmao
@@PostTraumaticSwagDisorder Well, that's life for a sea cucumber. :|
facts!!!!
@@PostTraumaticSwagDisorder you should give yourself that title
I recently ran a D&D game where I claimed to my players at the beginning that I would make this villain "irredeemable", as I had a problem in the past with them redeeming any bad guys I put in.
I set up the quest so an important NPC, a pirate named Captain Danassi, was the main focus on the quest, he was trying to get revenge on this ghost pirate and the players were trying to help him get there. When they did get to the ghost pirate, it was revealed that Danassi actually owed his soul to the ghost, and he attempted to trade the souls of the PCs for his own. He ran off with the ship, and the second half of the game was chasing him down for revenge.
Needless to say, my players regard Captain Danassi as the best villain I gave them.
- I think you're referencing the second Pirates of the Caribbean, where Jack Sparrow tricks William Turner into joining Davy Jones' crew in his stead!
Did a 10 Year old wrote this Comment?
@@jokestar2577My first thought as well
@@ahabduennschitz7670 funny comment, coming from a ten-year-old
"Worry not my insecure writer friend"
Me: realizing this video is dedicated to me
"Most of us will never be Quentin Tarantino..."
Wait a minute there...
What do you mean...”Most?”
Are you insulting me?!?!?!
Yeah, because Quentin Tarantino is one of us. Unless...
So you're saying there's a chance?
@@Freekymoho
YEAAAAA
I can’t imagine anyone else playing Landa than Christoph Waltz.
Bro Jared Leto can play Landa easily
@@dieneloleo2605 Troll! 🤣
Will Smith
@@prosketch95 he doesn't have a good psycho face, especially the eyes.
@@gonzalogutierrez510 i also don't think a black man could portray a Nazi war General. But yeah the psycho face thing aswell😂
There's another trick to introduce a villain that I like:
Show the ABSURD power gap between him and the main characters, make him do something so stunning the audience wants to know how he did it and if the heroes will posibly be able to defead him. It isn't limited to action, for example: imagine a movie in which the MC is a cop and the villain is a thief, BUT, he stole an ENTIRE house without the neighbors noticing it. How the hell did he did that? How can a human be capable of that? It's an instant hook.
You got me hooked. I need to know what happens next! Why do you do this to me?
@@Lugbzurg I actually used an episode of CSI season 12 in which this exact thing happens for this example. The name of the chapter is "Stealing Home"
So basically a really OP villain who can seemingly do anything, like TDK Joker
@@Nicholas_Chen_ Not necesarely OP, it can be mysterious to the point people think what they do is imposible, like the example of the man stealing the house, at the end of that episode the "villain" was just a human, but a very smart and cunning one
that's just a derivative of what was discussed in the video.
Playing dungeons and dragons as dm taught me more about villain development than a thousand hours of film study.
Getting players to hate a character but not you (it's creator) is the greatest trick you can pull.
Another villain introduction akin to Daniel Radcliffe in " Now you see me two" is the "Mandarin" in Iron Man 3. Great video!
Such an underrated MCU film compared to the others
yeah but the mandarin i think was intentional, totally different case
@@arturoidoyagamolina5109 that's why i compared the mandarin to Daniel Radcliffe's introduction specifically.
@@jimboringo9958 Agreed. Comics fans whining about the Mandarin fake-out ended up taking all the oxygen from that film when it was really good.
And we're getting a "real" Mandarin now anyway
While I enjoy the film, you cannot convince me that Killian was a good villain. The build up was pretty effective, with the chilling videos and the destruction of Tony’s house, but all that hype is immediately shattered once we find out all of it is either fabricated, or part of Killian’s 13 year old temper tantrum for Tony not meeting him on the roof. Therefore the good introduction actively detriments the character, and lowers it from what would have been a mediocre villain in an otherwise okay story, down to a let-down.
one of my fave villains and how she was introduced is the Other Mother(Beldam) from Coraline. even before we meet any characters at the start of the movie, we´re introduced to a mix of motherly sweetness and something wrong. we don´t see her face but we see long thin hands made of sewing needles as she takes everything off a doll to make it look like the next victim while she is humming happily to a song, even when the worktable is old and dusty. we already know so much about her before we do get to meet her in the first part of act 2 but pretends to be a harmless mother who pulls the strings to get children close to her. it´s better to watch the movie to really see her alone.
I know this is something everyone realized, but can we just take a moment to appreciate that videos and channels like these are so greatly usable for D&D and how to make better stuff as a DM?
D&D is just novel writing where you're not the only one writing the story. That's a DM fact from a DM.
Also: PSA, dont do joke campaigns. Just... dont. They're bad.
That’s what I love about this channel. These lessons don’t just apply to film. They work for any kind of story you could possibly want to write!
Just use WWF, now WWE, for an example. The way wrestlers get put over or job. The Rock beating Undertaker clean was what put him over.
@@walterruth5901 My friend, big fan of wrestling tells me a lot how the story telling from wrestling can be used in dnd very well.
Most of these writing tips cover writing in general, which campaigns are a form of.
Doesn’t Rick and Morty do the same thing as the first way where is established is that the Rick is the smartest being in the multiverse basically is an omniscient god and then boom evil Morty outsmarts all of them
Twice...
“Here’s how to introduce a villain”
*20 second unskippable ad starts playing*
Me: you truly are a villain
Something else the intro of thanos does is showing how strong he is. Sure he beat the hulk, which is all fine and dandy, but he also killed loki, which is something even the hulk couldn’t do. He killed the unkillable.
And killed Thor's bud, the eyeball guy. And Thor could do absolutely Nothing. Everything, till then, Thor was an unstoppable force. When he walked in, the day was saved. But Thanos killed his people, his friend, his brother and left him for dead, in space, alone. Hims a baaad man. (Was. RIP Thanos)
@@scratchsoft2347 So Hard to spell. But you knew exactly who I was talking about. RIP eye ba- HEIMDALL. He was a good character.
@@scratchsoft2347 I read and loved the stories of old Gods as a kid. Here's a thought. The ancient world had MORE advanced technology then we have now. Just anomolies littered around the world. But, some stories come thru on all religions and or countries. What if the Gods were realish, because the same number of... Gods, seem to pop up even in Hindi. Like all the crazy creatures, were actually real, just some crazy rich people who had the money for splicing and mixing DNA. And of course, let's make a bull and man... Thing. See what happens. (After born and eats people) JESUS that's horrifying. Well, make it something to live in. I created it, least I can do is keep it safe... And let it eat my enemies children.
@@scratchsoft2347 My favorite, Odin, Zeus, they almost have the same number of... Gods. Same with Chinese Gods, Hindi, etc... They have stones that weigh hundreds of tons that we can't lift with today's tech. Or the Chinese swords that had nanotech involved in their making, and I think we can replicate them, but for the longest time, couldn't. And pyarmids. Were not even trying to duplicate that, because we can't. So with that in mind, these Gods, (could of just been rich humans who had the money, Starks and Wayne's) had adventures. Got into shenanigans and then 14,500 years ago a meteor hit the earth that burned like 70% of the world. The civilizations would of limped on, but then finding food, shelter would of been higher on the list then UA-cam. Then another hit, 2,500 years after that. Not exactly sure the time but these are verified. That last hit then put the human race on reset and we went back to the stone age and forgot everything we were. Now, we just have stories, of monsters, giants, remember when they cloned that sheep? What did they call it? It's unthinkable to think that some shady government isn't making hybrid humans for warfare. Totally unthinkable...
@@scratchsoft2347 It's all out there. Just have to look. A layer of char was found that was like a inch thick. When meteorites strike, certain material is left in a pattern, which they found. In china, there's a mountain that's made of tubes, TUBES, some millimeters thick with 20% material that we don't know what it is. I just find it fascinating, and I wouldn't mind finding the Real Thors Hammer. I'm not going to even try to spell it. Starts with an M.
Strange how I never ever disagree with this guy. Filmento knows his stuff.
“Here’s how to introduce, a villain”
*ad starts playing*
DAMN YOU FILMENTOOOOO!
So the ad was the villain!
he did hatred for villain right
My man should have a podcast, I love his voice
Isnt this a podcast?😂
I mean, he talks and he even goes a step further and adds movie bits.
Yes, he should
I also like when the villain is introduced as a hero... So you see all these great amazing feats and actions and start to have a bond with this person following them around in their day to day good doer ways....then behind closed doors it's either revealed or they do something so fucked up and despicable it overshadows all the good deeds or makes all the good deeds really messed up.
I think invincible is a good example of this
Incredibles 2
Just like Homelander from the boys
@@asiyahasoui2965 yeah or better omniman from Invincible... If you haven't watched it id highly recommend!
Rick Deckard
18:52 I lost it when I realized he replaced “that” death scene with Andrew Ryan’s from Bioshock
Holy sh*t you're right
"The first to state his case seems right, until his opponent begins to cross-examine him." Pro 18:17
I like the idea of the twist villain who just seems like such a chill laid back person because of how unimportant they view their crimes.
How to introduce a villain
Hannibal Lecter: Good Morning
Joker: Good Morning Hannibal I guess we’re both in the same situation
I’m glad someone remembered the line correctly and not the Mandela effected version.
@@ernestolindley1659 [McDonald's clown] has joined the chat
As an introvert I say : This works. Every morning going out.
And still to this day people don't realize Hannibal was NOT the villain in Silence of the Lambs.
Thanos did all 3 in Infinity War. He had a perfect introduction.
1. "You but more": Has a fight with the Hulk in the first scene and wins with brute strength.
2. "Past evils incarnate": Thanos attacking earth in Avengers 1 and his ominous presence throughout the MCU
3. "That red feeling": Kills Loki, one of our favorite antiheroes, in the first scene.
Except, that wasn’t his introduction. He was introduced in the first Avengers, and again in GotG.
@@n4lgaming772 This was his proper introduction, when he actually got to kick some ass and become a narrative force in his own movie.
Well The third one might come to the fact of who he killed, because of the snap He killed many heroes including Spiderman, becoming a villain whom both the fans and Iron Man hate.
That's not villain introduction, that's main character intro.
Thanos is the main character of the infinity war movie
Title: is pronounced Seven
My brain: SeSevenEn
The inversion of the theft-of-power introduction: the villain who is exactly right to crush your protagonist because he is the inversion of the protagonist. Think Clubber Lang in Rocky 3, who was dangerous not because he had what the hero had, but because he had what the hero /lacked/-in this case, the hunger for victory, the eye of the tiger. Another variation on this theme is the villain who lacks what the hero /has/-almost always morals and ethics, such as your own favorite Moriarty v Holmes.
And you’re missing something huge here: villains introduced by the characteristic entry action generally reserved for protagonists. Any good hero introduction is a good villain introduction as well, when handled correctly. Think a giant spaceship running down a little one, a desperate and hopeless defense, a captured princess, slaughtered rebels, stormtroopers-and walking in over the bodies of the dead, the person large and in charge responsible for every moment of the movie so far steps in and surveys his victory. The music stings as the camera freezes on him to let us know-everything in motion is in motion because of him. This man is power incarnate. And arguably the most notorious villain of the 20th century was born. I don’t even need to say his name. That’s how big a shadow he casts. “
I would argue, in fact, that villains require far more thought and care with introductions than heroes do. They’re a far more critical part of the story. Diehard could have been Diehard with Arnold or Stallone-but it couldn’t have been Diehard without Rickman. Period.
I've always said the the bad guys are more interesting. They have such broad motivations, as opposed to the good guys (pun intended), who merely want to "stop crime." World domination, revenge, hubris, greed, mental illness, these are all reasons for supervillains to do what they do. At the very least, they're proactive, they set plans in motion, whereas the heroes are REactive, they don't make a move until the villains take the first step. Moreover, the heroes always play by the rules (unless they're considered anti-heroes), the villains do not, which means they are far more unpredictable. Sure, Batman is cool because of his relentless dedication and hi-tech gadgets, but you know he'll never kill anyone. The Joker, however? No one around him is safe.
No I dont know which villain you are referrng to. Vader?
I appreciate the compliment. --- Darth.
Bro, Are you the real jim butcher? Bro I love your books! they're awesome!
well said.
Easiest villain intro hack: "The dead speak!"
Alternatively: "Somehow, Villain has returned."
Meanwhile in 2060 when they make Avengers 13, “Somehow, Thanos returned.”
A great example of gaining instant hatred for the villain is in Once Upon a Time In the West, where Frank and his gang murders the whole Mcbain family. Then ruthlessly murders the child and to make it more shocking it was played by Henry Fonda who always played the guy who stood for what was right.
Another great way to buildup the villain is to have him/her being buildup through character interactions and see their reactions of fear as they speak of the villain. A great example of this is shown in Sexy Beast Don Logan's intro. The characters talk about him in a tone of fear of what's to come when he arrives. He represents the violent past of Gal coming back to haunt him. Its a simple scene of him walking through the airport but his buildup, the character mannnerisms and the fact that all the characters are feeling uncomfortable at his presence makes it such a great way to introuduce the villain. Also througout the film the main character Dove is shown as a chill and easygoing person. Don's the opposite he's all over the place, erratic and short tempered and vulgar.
“What do we do about the kid, *Frank?”*
(spits chaw)
“Well........
_now that you’ve said my name...”_
That line pefectly introduced one of the best villains in movie history
11:44 _"If John Doe just showed up at the beginning without us first having experienced his handiwork I guarantee you we wouldn't still be talking about him"._ This is essentially exactly how _The Blacklist_ begins, and that seemed pretty effective in its own way. Would be interested in hearing your insights on how the two compare.
Filmento: "Build up only works when it builds up to something."
DCEU: "Write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN."
Edit: Thanks for all the likes fam. I'd like to thank the Academy.
Malay Agarwal I won’t like your comment so it stays at 69
What do you mean write that down?
There was no build up to speak of.
Lost on the other hand, that you can stick it to.
And now they are releasing the Snyder Cut to fix the problems. Looks like they do learn from their mistakes.
@@mnomadvfx that's the joke, mate.
ok, marvel fangay.
Its amazing how naughty dog basically set up a villain through the hate method so perfectly but then redirected all that hate towards them by painting that villain as a justified hero main character
Safe a zebra 😂
But somehow it works in the case of MCU's Thanos. When he appeared, he killed Loki (a fan-favorite character) and yet many audiences can sympathize with Thanos.
@@kevinclement1533 yes but that was achieved by making the villains motivation clear and understandable. Notice i still said villain because despite the good intentioned motivation the movies never try to paint thanos as a good guy. Naughty dog forced the player to play as abby and shoehorned an "abby is a hero for killing your beloved character" story down their throats.
Therefore the hate towards thanos stays with him but abbys hate has been directed towards the publisher as we've seen
I suppose the key difference would be that those who sympathise with thanos do so of their own decision having seen the movie and his motivation. But in TLOU2 the story clearly tries to make you sympathise with her and make you accept that she was justified
@@domino6918
Agreed. the simplify of differences between Abby and Thanos is story never try to paint him as "good" guy. just understandable , sympathizable villain. no "ill will" behind his action. not hatred , not greed , not loath. he just want universe to be better place. Thanos adopt/help kids like abby? sure. but also force them to grow up to be his warrior and abuse them to no end. he cut nebula's limb of every time she lose to gamora. he did kill gamora for soul stone despite he really did care for her.
but Abby case? "Look, i know you mad at her. but she rescue two persons and also petting dog. so please dont hate her so much for killed joel and support her along the road to be the next main character in next game "
@@domino6918 @Pimp My Reich its funny that you see Abby's story as being shoehorned down your throat. To me, although her arc was deliberate, it didn't feel at all shoehorned, and it didn't feel as though it made her a hero. Instead it felt like it was an exploration of how viewing different viewpoints of an action or a story can result in us as the audience to empathise with different characters. By the end of that game I felt for both Ellie and Abby, and when the final duel happened, I was doing everything I could to avoid ramming that knife into Abbys chest. To me...that's perfect storytelling.
I laughed so hard when he said "So basically, just be Quintin tarentino" lmfao
I disagree with mission impossible, the fact that Solomon Lane was there, was allowed to kill a junior operative in front of a powerless Ethan Hunt at the very beginning of the movie and that Lane's organization meant to set all of that up, was very good for me.
Yeah, but Lane's build up was more the point of the first one. Where you build up Lane through the hero. Seeing Lane easily trap Hunt and infiltrate the organization really set up the threat of Lane.
But for the third point, making the villain do something so despicable that the audience immediately hates him, not so much. Because we don't really care about that operative and when he kills her, it's like "ok, that's pretty sad, I guess."
Mission impossible 3 villain, easily the best one...
Edit: Or atleast in the Mi series...
Him:
"Thanos introduces himself by killing Loki"
Me:
(Cries in Heimdall)
At 2:05, the Mr. Robot theme plays when he’s talking about hacking. These videos are so well edited!
I think one of the issues with Abby is that, they tried to make her a “sympathetic” villain.
Like you said in the video, “first impressions matter.” And what Abby did, well, I didn’t really try to see her side of the argument because I was more interested in revenge.
Naughty Dog said that they wanted her to be like Ellie, but like you said. When a random new character shows up, do some personal shit, you’re gonna want that new guy dead. I felt like the game left a bad taste in my mouth cause it tried to tell me that “Abby is also a good guy and Ellie is bad.” And they tried **INSANELY** hard to try and get the player to like the character by having her pet dogs and people going “oh hey! It’s my best friend in the whole world!!” Which didn’t stick with me. It’s a shame because TLoU2 could’ve easily been a solid game but there were some story decisions that didn’t make it work. If it was it’s own standalone game where we ONLY play as Abby and slowly build her up like how we played with Joel and Ellie in the first game, THEN it might’ve been really well developed, but it didn’t and it just rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
My two cents but I really love your videos, when I try to write. I take some time out to watch your videos and build the story up. Keep up the awesome work Filmento!!
How is that an issue that they tried to make her a sympathetic villian?
I mean. They tried and they did it. The end. Even more - she's not even a sympathetic villian, she's a heroine.
@Людина Незламна she might be a heroine to you and others but to others, she’s a selfish character that had zero development. She picked up Lev and defected sure, but she didn’t seem bothered with what she did. Plus the distasteful sex scene with her and Owen was super off putting. Specially with what they were talking about BEFORE they got all hot and bothered.
Again, each to their own. They did split a fan base on if Abby was a good character and if her actions were justified. Personally, I didn’t like her and playing her was more of a chore more than anything
@@gatorkid3653 yup... would've worked better if LOU2 was entirely from Abbys perspective, and right at the end we finally find out she's after Joel and kills him... then sequel baits LOU3 to be about Ellie getting revenge. Probably would've been too predictable but I guessed she was looking for Joel in the first 5 minutes anyway. They might've been able to write it in a way that it wouldn't have been obvious, but probably not. Either way we would've grown to like/love Abby and sympathised with her more.
@@SA80TAGE Yep. That makes a lot more sense than "She plays with dog. You like her now".
@@SA80TAGE Nah, a big problem with TLOU2 is, that it's a game. They put Abby out there, make you hate her and then you have to play as her. in a game you connect and identify much more with a character and you don't want to do that with a character you already hate. That's why we hated Abby that much, cause we connected and idenitfied with Joel so much in the first game, we loved him even tho he did bad things and then Abby killed him before she herself as character was build up.
Also the problem is that if you introduce Abby the way they did, you just hate her and nothing will change your mind. Abby should have been built up first as a likeable character who teams up with Ellie which left Joel after she learned what he has done. Then later in the game you would come across Joel and it turns out that he killed Abbys father and she kills him even tho Ellie who became her friend begs her not to.
Now you and the characters are conflicted about Abby and you can go on with the story of Ellie hunting Abby and even have a similar ending with Ellie sparing Abby because we as audience feel a kind of sympathy with Abby we are never going to have in the real TLOU2.
I've used this extensively for D&D villains. Mostly the "build-up through their actions" bit. It definitely works.
5:24 That dude's reaction seemed like he was really into that moment of it being a big deal in the game.. that was awesome. I do stuff like that when I'm really into certain parts of a game 😎👍
Literally every time Kratos uses spartan rage during a cutscene, I went full maniacal cackling for whatever violence was about to ensue.
I gotta say, that was one of the best ad transitions I've seen in a while.
He even built up to it throughout the video. Fucking amazing
Imagine a villain that does all three of these in one scene.
The ultimate villain
Thanos?
@@joshgroban5291 My God, you're right.
@@joshgroban5291 holy shit youre correct
@@joshgroban5291 Oh lord, you speak the truth
Or you could just have Dio kiss JoJo's girlfriend and incinerate his dog.
You cant have perfection everytime
Dude, yeah!!!
I've never hated a character faster and more intensely...
Thats the horrific actions category. I've never seen 7, but the second it showed that picture i hated the vilain. The other two are gross, but thats just off the charts.
Jojo fans are everywhere
Honestly I still love the blonde bastard.
i'm currently writing a movie and this really helped me with introducing the villain. Also could you do another blueprint for greatness please
How's the movie going?
When a hot actress agrees to show their feet in a film 1:27
Just Some Guy without a Mustache No u
I have seen this guy in so many fucking random videos
@@ananysingh07 true
Kristoff Waltz killed in Inglorious Basterds. Love him.
Christoph*
@@arvidberlin6949 You're right.
Totally agree. That is an amazing villain introduction.
I still believe that first scene is what won him the Oscar. His whole performance in Django Unchained was better. But he was extraordinary in these few minutes.
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How could you forget about lord Faarquad again? The man rips off a sentient cookies’ legs and threatens to eat ‘em.
That T-Rex roar for jigsaw was such a good touch. Well done.
Silva's introductory monologue in Skyfall is one of my favorite villain reveals of all time.
Underrated
Abby has a pretty freaking solid foundation for a villain, and TLOU2 stupidly decided to spend it's second half pretending that foundation doesn't exist.
One of the best villains that I have seen is Handsom Jack from Borderlands 2, and learning more at Borderlands The Pre-Sequel, him being a presence of the "heros" made him memorable and very scary sometimes.
Handsome Jack is a masterpiece of writing, one of the main reasons why Borderlands is such an amazing series. Even if he doesn’t appear in 3, the AI that was made by Nakayama in the Pre Sequel appears as a legendary talking gun in 3 called the Jackhammer, and it’s like hearing an old friend over the phone
With all those "hacking" cuts in the video, thought you were going to talk about Zod and Man of Steel
Zod is in my opinion the best dceu villain.
Human man Last name I can agree on that, although Orm and Black Manta are up there too IMO
Zod was fucking awesome in MoS.
Zod? Really? Huh. Okay..
Zod was awesome.
18:40 as you said, the audience won’t be satisfied until the villain who committed such a horrible action is dealt with. From what I’ve heard the villain is not dealt with, we spend an obscene amount of time in which any heartstring is pulled to manipulate the audience about caring for her and the audience is alienated from the old protagonists to make you "forgive" the villain
Thats why the audience dealt with ND instead lol
The only sympathetic villain we know is Dr. Doof
@@bananatoffeepie not even his parents showed up for his birth!
6:00 In my head canon, the title is, "Now You Don't".
""May I have some milk."" -- Colonal Lansda. What a subtly villainous line.
‘Now you see me’ couldn’t help waving how smart their characters are, even if it neuters the villain.
Who needs the heroes journey?
I hate that movie... It pretends like the stuff they do is like magician stuff, but most of it is complete horseshit. I was waiting for the big reveal that they were actually wizards, but i might have missed scene
Another great thing about God of War was that even though Kratos is big buff dude he still has a vulnerability: his son. All the fights before Baldur's introduction was about protecting him from strong but yet somewhat mindless non-humans trying to survive in their own way! So when Baldur comes in and says "Why are there two beds in there?", we (like Kratos) feel threatened and vulnerable that he might go for this young child. And that is what makes Baldur the villian, someone willing to target specifically what you care about.
The criminally underrated Joel Schuhmacher Movie Phone Booth with Colin Farrell is also a good example. In that movie Colin Farrell is introduced as an arrogant, rich, little Asshole, who cheats on his wife and is just treats others bad. Then he goes into a Phone Booth, to talk to his mistress Katie Holmes, until someone else gets into the line and tells him that he has him at aim with a rifle and now forces him, into becoming a better person and says that he would kill him if he would leave the Phone Booth. As Colin Farrell gets rude, he tells him that he no amateur and has done the same thing to multiple others like him and shoots of a small part of his ear to show him that he is serious. He plays with his emotions, he even straight up kills someone in front of him, causing the police to appear and him being framed. The Caller just won‘t stop taunting him. At a certain point he gives him the option of choosing if he should kill his wife or his mistress. Until at the he honestly is a better person. At the End he shortly visits Colin Farrell and it turns out, he was Kiefer Sutherland all along and tells him that he would come again, if he wouldn’t continue being like he is from now on.
For the entire Movie, we haven’t seen Kiefer Sutherland and only heard his voice and aside from that Ear Shooting Part, he never hurt him, but made him so psychologically scarred, that he is now a better person (don’t you dare tell me now, that this is a Saw ripoff. This movie came out 2 Years earlier ). This movie is why in my opinion, even though he made B&R, I still think Joel Schuhmacher was a great director. May he rest in Peace.
Yeah man that movie was really good
That movie was great. On paper looked dumb and boring. But the execution was perfect.
Sounds like a saw ripoff
CJK
It came out 2 Years earlier. I stated it in the Text.
@@sirunbekannt5653 hahaha yeah you did you said don't you dare tell me it's a saw ripoff and that guys like "yep that's what it sounds like" its nothing like Saw really it's a good movie too
Just realised Thanos' intro fits in all of these
He hands hulk an ass whoopin
Hes been hyped by movies before Infinity War
He killed Loki and most of the Asgardians
I know that in rogue nation we don’t know the agent that well, but the thing is that Ethan Hunt will do anything to prevent unneeded casualties or civilian casualties. And there was nothing that he could do about this.
Kratos getting sucker punched by that little man was like seeing “Thonos” breaking Cap’s shield in Endgame.
i am infuriated that you misspell thanos
@@jadynmurrell80 you don't watch "Moviemonto" do you
What do you mean "little"? Kratos is 6'7/ 204 cm. That guy is at least 6'4.
@@SkinSlicer Kratos is 6'4 though. Baldur is maybe 5'9-10" give or take
Kratos getting smacked by a literal god that feels no pain at all is quite different from Thanos who is the strongest Eternal wielding a sword likely made from Uru metal breaking Cap's shield that is made from vibranium. Cap is still a man after all.
Abby killing Joel was probably the most infamous of that last method. Too bad we didn't kill her after all the journey and killing we did with Ellie.
That game is so absurdly bad in certain ways, i forgot how much i hated it until he brought it up.
The absurd thing is that after making us hate Abby for what she has done, the game goes on an tries every trick imaginable to make us sympathize with her. Saving a zebra, playing fetch with her dog... twice, playing as her character through half of the game, having flashback in the flashback and then making us trying to kill the main character... I'm sorry, your introduction was way too strong.
"Revenge is bad, but violent rampages are rad."
@@ИванСнежков-з9й The game succeeded then?
@@radekseky4571 Well yes, but actually no. As ham-fisted as it was for Abby to do "the thing" (from terrible writing to character assassination) , while it did technically succeed in getting us to hate Abby (and the authors), they then just decide to pull a 180 to get us to like her, which at that point is just impossible. I have yet to see a single person playing the game that didn't stick to hating Abby all the way throughout the game.
Sure, you could say that the intro "succeeded" into getting you to hate her, but the game itself failed miserably with what it tried to accomplish, mostly due to sheer incompetence.
I remember watching se7en movie and saw that starved dude tied to the bed, that really shook me
Tarintino looks now present day like he did as a vampire 20 years ago...now that's foreshadowing
Always watching Filmento's videos with a note a notebook in my hand. Best film class ever!
14:44 this is Griffith in a nutshell. Not really his indroduction but if you know you know
Filmento: Malekith (shows pic of Ronan the Accusor)
Me: Now, that is Film Perfection.
Ronan: You call me Malekith!?!
Betrayal.
I don't think it's coincident that Dante put traitors like Judas, Brutus and Cassius were put into deepest depth of Hell. I believe betrayal of someone you should be able to trust is one of the easiest way to make a villain memorable, and detestable. Even if his villain role was short lived, Tucker is one of the most hated character in all of anime. In FMA (spoilers ahead) her turned his only daughter and family dog into talking chimera (something he already did to his wife). While objectively it's not the worst thing a bad guy can do (number of victims are very low), it was that he did it to someone we all understand he should had done everything to protect. We all understand at least on surface level the relationship of parent and child, so then breaking it so casually feels so much worse than if it had happened to some random person.
Another great example of this is Griffith from Berserk. During the Eclipse he literally sacrificed Band of the Hawk, his loyal soldiers, just to get personal power. Again, numerically it's far from worst atrocity in stories, but because there was this close bond between Griffith and Band of the Hawk, this moment felt so much worse and personal than it would had felt, if Griffith had killed larger number of secondary characters.
You can also throw Aizen from Bleach here too. He was build as reliable, intelligent and calm person, until he was "killed". We get to see how this event affected everyone, so we understood how important character Aizen was in Soul Society. Then when we find out he's not dead, he fucking stabs Momo, a person who loved Aizen most, and after that we all knew Aizen is a heartless bastard.
Heyy i feel proud knowing all of the characters you mentioned
even though i totally aggre, i also think this enters in the category of hate against the villain, so that´s why i think he didn´t put any of this cases or more in the video
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
See also: the remake of The Italian Job. Ed Norton betrays the rest of the crew within the first 10mins, so he is immediately hated for the rest of the movie
Btw, the Statute of Limitations for spoilers is 1 year, so seeing as how this movie came out 17yrs ago, you should have seen it by now
I love how Zod's Introduction in Man of Steel was incorporated in this video seamlessly.
Darth Vader. Walking though those doors after the magnitude of seeing a star destroyer for the first time, easily over powering the ship, slaughter of the rebel troops. Then to cap it all. He crushes a man throat lifting him in the air with one hand. Also that sound still gives me a reaction. It’s probably the most violent feeling scene in all of Star Wars.. you feel that sound ..
That WHOLE section about god of war had me laughing so damn hard.
“Boy” memes were fricken built for Filmento 😂😂
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14:47
[Whisper]
G r i f f i t h . . .
*C L A N G*
*HAI-YO!*
I mean griffith wasnt introduced with a horrible deed, unless you count the black swordsman act in ehich he does with the escalation
One of my most favorite villain introductions is in movie Rango, when we see Rattlesnake Jake for the first time
7:20 Honestly my favourite version of this is in Gears Of War 1 where you spend the first 40 minutes absolutely fucking decimating the Locus like they’re a daily annoyance and you start to think “how did this war get so dire”.
Then Anthony gets his head popped like a grape establishing “oh shit they’re a very real threat”. Later in the very same mission after merc’ing even stronger enemy’s and establishing *The Hammer Of Dawn* you start to wonder again “How did it get so dire? We have this fuck off gun”...
Then General Fucking Ramm shows up in one fire fight like any other where the gears seem to be doing fine, but he just *walks* up and kills your commanding officer, who over the mission has been shown to be very competent, *like it was nothing* .
This happens again in Gears 2 with Tai who if anyone has ever played it, you know exactly what I’m talking about
4:49 That super quiet and subtle classic Goofy scream was perfect. haven't heard that in YEARS.
Can we just point out that in all 3 of the first point's examples, they're sequels, so not only do we have the introduction of the movie to establish our hero's abilities, but also the previous entries in that series.
This Malekith running gag is the best thing, I swear.
Just another example: "PotC: Dead Men Tell No Tales" introduced the villain, Salazar, in a great way as well: with invigorating music, a mysterious presence, and the way he cuts down the British when he arrives is awesome
Bad movie, nice villain.
2 words: Jones introduction
@@pavelplsek2000 Jones was awesome! And his little precense in the fifth movie was the best part of that stupid movie haha
@@pavelplsek2000 Jones was also interested in an awesome way. So was Beckett! All the villains had great moments
@@pelleman_ He was in the fifth movie? When?
Evil dead 2013 intro scene was awesome.
"Here's how to introduce a villain "
Cut to Raid shadow legends ad in between 😂
TLOU2 method. Have the asset kill bounre's wife then dedicate half the movie to him being the hero and what a good guy he is.
"tEn/TeN"
TenneT
In my opinion, Bourne 2 could work like that, since it's not a video game, and also because we were only in Bourne's perspective for only like 2 hours in Bourne Identity. In TLoU 1, we literally played Joel for like (4-7?) hours, and then somehow, we killed somebody's father, and the daughter got mad, lol.
@@TheFikri136 So if someone killed your father and stopped any attempt to create a cure for humanity, you wouldn't then kill that man? TLOU 2 is a perfect reflection on what it is to be human. Stupid and flawed. Tommy ruined his marriage to the point they split apart. Ellie lost 2 fingers and was left alone in the end. Did Ellie once ask Abby why she killed Joel? Nope. Ellie doesn't even know Abby is the doctor's daughter. What do you think would happen if Ellie did kill Abby? That everything was going to be good again? You think Abby killing Joel solved her problems with her PTSD? Hell, why do you think Ellie started playing the guitar in the end? Because she didn't know what to do. She felt empty and grabbed the first thing she could to get her mind on something. Look at Thor after killing Thanos. He got his revenge, but he still became severely depressed and turned to food and video games for comfort. That's what revenge does to people. It's a false accomplishment. A disguise for nothing
@@lekrieg8618 Abby killed a random person? Plus, no one really cared about Ellie. Ellie is a static character in both of the games. She doesn't change. But Joel is the dynamic character. We see him change during the game and he's the one we care about. I noticed you didn't respond to my question either. About how if someone killed your father, you wouldn't kill that person? The movie Punisher was ok but the series one is a better argument. In the movie it ends with him getting his revenge. It doesn't show what happens after the fact. He has nothing to do after. Hell, he nearly kills himself from the emptiness and the thoughts of his dead family. In the series we see him get his revenge with Billy and he just goes from city to city having beers at bars and not doing much of anything. He was looking for purpose and found nothing. He found someone who promptly got shot and had to go to the hospital, but nothing else. Thanos doesn't get revenge either. He's above such little feelings. That's why he had a plan after he snapped his fingers
The hate intro also can work wellllll into the movie too. Like it doesnt have to be just an intro, it could be a plot twist as well. For example, Ego from Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Ik many people dont like him, but I personally found him very effective, given the very sudden and insidious fact he casually drops as star lord is being indoctrinated. That being, that he gave Peter's mom cancer because wanted her to forget him. When that reveal happened in the theater, I instantly felt how peter felt, shifting from "ego really isnt that bad, he just has a big, well, ego" to "oh fuck this guy, hes gotta die now. Like yeah I knew ego would be the villain cuz comics, but like thanos, they took his evil in such an interesting direction, and it was such a sudden reveal, he sticks with me as one of the best marvel villains to date.
Also, speaking of thanos, I'd argue his intro was all three of them you mentioned. The hero but better: beating up the hulk. Set up and pay off: hes been teased by gamora as the most cruel warlord in the universe, and hes teased as such a big threat in the comics (granted that one is only if you know the comics). And hate: killing loki.
Ngl, I personally like Handsome Jack and Glados. Although not film and not flashy, they set a tone throughout the entire game that just hits the right notes for me.
My Favorite Villain Introduction would be Logan facing off against X-24.
knowing how strong and ferocious Logan was during his younger years so having him fight a younger version of himself had me thinking
"How the F is he gonna beat that?" it was working with information we already had on the Hero off of all the years watching x-men films so having X-24 give Logan the staredown as he walked down the staircase I also knew it was going to be the biggest Fight Logan was going to have if he decided to take it. it also helped that we had info about the movie itself being Rated-R. was one of the best moments I've seen in villain introductions.
that's where I started my own journey on how to introduce a villain and I'm glad that I get to learn more from a different viewpoint(Filmento)
I love how Filmento always finds some streamer dude who perfectly verbalizes the reaction that a movie scene is supposed to invoke.
8:27 it's safe to say that I saw that one coming