Quick tip on renata: if you use W , and that person dies, but then uses zhonias, it stops the timer, allowing his team to have more time to kill someone before he dies ( this includes renata herself)
Well, a year has passed and the meta has changed a lot. As a Renata main I think she struggles with two things. Mages like Lux or Xerath in bot and of course counters like Morgana, Yasuo or Xayah. Having said that the other problem she has is that she relies way too much on your team being "average" at least, meaning you need to remind your adc to constantly be on the aggression whenever we are commited to an all in or Renata has CCd someone. Also not too many people know what her W does and they tend to ran away in fear, W procs and they die like very far away. Now regarding the pros. Renata is one champion that goes ABSOLUTELY fine with hyper carries like Yi, Tristana, Draven and so on. Her ultimate has A LOT of value and can easily win a 2 v 5 or 3 v 5. Her W is an excelent tool to win those extended trades/fights and ironically her Q is also amazing at stopping strong ganks like Nunu's or Heca without R. I don't really see renata struggling against the likes of blitz, nautilus or any tanky support. Her passive shreds them with your adc.
The problem with Renata Glasc is, .. her kit relies so much more on her allies TRUSTING her. This is actually more of a problem with marksmen because they are more inclined to disengage when threatened. I actually think the most interesting thing to do with "Mommy" is to pair her with a champion that is really good at going all in. Think about it, .. her steroid is a lot like Shimmer from Arcane. The characters that are juiced up on Shimmer are INSANELY AGGRESSIVE. It really works to give those hyper aggressive characters up to 3 extra seconds to get an extra kill when they would otherwise have inted. So playing with something like a Yasuo ADC is incredibly strong. I know, I've done it! The problem is, the Yasuo tends to think they are stronger on their own than they really are. If they end up abandoning her to chase after kills, they are much more likely to just die, .. and if the enemy catches onto her being your carry's drug dealer, .. they will just one-shot her first, then wipe the rest of your team.
Another solid release as a champ! No 200 years type design, she has a clear playing identity, she has clear weaknesses but still has really solid strength in her kit. So happy with her personally.
The thing I hate is that she has a very unique playstyle. Obviously that's usually a good thing, but not in her case. Since your ult is slower than a turtle, anyone with a decent brain will be able to side step, and even if you use it in a cramped place, people will still be able to walk out, or just let their tenacity do the work. What I like about her playstyle however, is that she is really agressive, requires you to constantly harass the enemy if possible. Sad thing is she gets outtraded by most other poke supports (Zyra, Brand, Karma etc.) She is definitely not a low elo pick, as she requires a good team to be functional, especially a good adc. I managed to climb to grandmaster with her, and I can tell you, the difference is night and day between playing Renata on low elo, and on high elo
Wikkkkk, hope you enjoyed it. Have you ever put out a video and you felt meh about it. That was me with this one... there are a few mistakes I caught before upload but it was already 3am so I had to push it :/
@@BCawk Yeah, I know how it feels :/ Or at least I knew, I've been inactive for quite a while. But I get it. Still, gr8 vid! Also, the growth of your channel, damn it I'm impressed :P But you deserve it. Keep up the good work!
Clarification on Renata's W: The steroid movement speed only works if the target ally (or herself) is moving TOWARDS the enemy. Also if you're going Glacial, then Approach Velocity is a good rune since it synergizes with the glacial proc (aside from her QER abilities), and helps her mitigate her slow movement speed.
Funny how the things i saw on this vid is exactly my play style. For me I always rush imperial mandate on the mythic item ( i wanna try locket if i have the chance. As for Shurelya's, well its ok too if i wanna play a more enchantress style of play) and then abyssal mask (for the enemy team's reduced magic resistance, especially if we have an aggressive mage on our team) then tank items the rest of the game such as frozen heart, thorn mail, sprit visage or force of nature (depends on the situation) or redemption. I always go Merc threads for boots. As for runes, its either guardian or arcane comet. I'm currently in mastery level 6 and I only require 1 more token to reach mastery level 7~
evenshroud pared with firststrike gives insane ammount of money and killing potential with her ult . just my two cents as some one that plays her very often
I've been having the most success with Guardian page and with Locket and Frozen Heart, so I feel vindicated by actual good players doing that as well! I do disagree with maxing E first because it's....it's a bad ability. Really bad. Short range, small shield, small damage, and has poor AP scaling. I much prefer maxing my W first so that I can get it down to a ~10 second cooldown. When it's that low of a cooldown, it's THE best ability for taking objectives like towers and dragons. Giving yourself freedom to use it more liberally makes it feel so much better to max first. Imperial Mandate also feels like a weird choice because only her E procs it, and, again, I think it's kind of an afterthought ability. But yea, Battlesong and Locket have felt the best for me, and while Guardian isn't great, with Revitalize and Locket it becomes pretty okay. I've also had absolutely dreadful games when my ADCs insist on taking things like Ezrael or Sivir or Zeri. Against Renata, I've been leaning on my Morgana to block the CC and for poke, but also, surprisingly, Taric is really good against her. His ultimate just completely negates hers because tends to activate his ult early on in fights, and Renata's moves just slow enough for Taric to generally get his off to negate most, if not all of, the berserk stuff. Taric also shines in those "to the death" scrums in bot lane, so that extra three seconds of life still has Taric pumping out heals and shields.
i really dont think her e is bad, ive been suing her as my main for a while and her e is more like for tactical things like Imperial thingy or objects like that, is very usefull cuz of how she can just almost spam it at max
@@BCawk you're crazy good at this. Even if you weren't doing support videos I would watch. The way you have the lace of the videos paired with your personality and cadence to how you talk is amazing
A proactive/playmaking enchanter. They actually found a niche for the 159th champion released. Well there was Rakan and Taric, but Rakan is more high engage than enchanter, and Taric is melee. Nice job Riot 👍
I know this champion isn’t popular. But could u do a guide on Syndra plz? I already got an A+ with her, I’m trynna get that S. Btw your videos help a lot.
She's so good, yet players are so confused when I use W on them... You are supposted to go full crazy and go for the kill, not run around. I was on a 20 win steak with her recenly, most games S+, not a single good play with W, because peeps don't know what to do.
Agree, most supports that dive alot make it easy for her to land her Q, and if their adc is following through aggressively, it makes it even easier to stun them both.
I disagree with your view on Gaurdian. If you look at the stats Guardian is completely outclassing all other keystones by a mile at 54+% wr vs ~49% wr(all others). One reason is Aery takes too long to proc with your long CDs vs Guardian.
Yoooo Stallion, I appreciate the counterpoints and welcome them! When I recorded this Glacial build was at 52% and everything else was at or below 50% is why I mentioned it. It looks like things are definitely moving forward though~
I hate renata's abilities, for one reason, she just has such massive cooldowns, but two out of three of her basic abilities are pretty meh at best. Her w is so strong that her q and e, despite being at best, as good as other abilities by comparison, they have 4 or 6 seconds more on their cooldown. She just seems boring to me, really one note, with no combos to learn and having her strongest basic ability be the one she uses the least, since she needs to hold the w for a fight to the death or a rundown.
Yah she feels very inactive in comparison to other supports for sure. Not really my cup of tea either but happy that she's not just dashing everywhere with an overloaded kit as well
She has a very good kit, but I do admit it doesn't seem that fun. Purely one of those champs just to win games. But hitting the Renata ult well is always interesting, especially during late game. When you just watch the enemy team kill each other.
also the overwhelming majority players are NOT in master or above so you made this video bases on a minority not the majority.. like youre saying if you arent master or higher, you dont matter
She feels very unforgiving in terms of playstyle. You have to time your W exceptionally well if you expect to revive someone or for whenever you use it for speeding, you know you won't have it afterwards as a revive, which makes you hesitant. Everything she has is a skillshot too, miss something and then you have to face huge cooldowns. Ult has to be timed well too, I guess it's not that big of an issue in a teamfight where everyone is focused on fighting each other. She is immobile af and her shield doesn't absorb a lot of damage. If your teammates don't know what her kit does they can't play well with you, and even if they do they have to trust you (more than an enchantress). I feel like they could at least reduce her cooldowns (not referring to W ofc)
I love that the end of the vid is literally "Renata works with all ad carries, renata struggles against everything that isnt janna and soraka"
Quick tip on renata: if you use W , and that person dies, but then uses zhonias, it stops the timer, allowing his team to have more time to kill someone before he dies ( this includes renata herself)
Well, a year has passed and the meta has changed a lot. As a Renata main I think she struggles with two things. Mages like Lux or Xerath in bot and of course counters like Morgana, Yasuo or Xayah. Having said that the other problem she has is that she relies way too much on your team being "average" at least, meaning you need to remind your adc to constantly be on the aggression whenever we are commited to an all in or Renata has CCd someone. Also not too many people know what her W does and they tend to ran away in fear, W procs and they die like very far away.
Now regarding the pros. Renata is one champion that goes ABSOLUTELY fine with hyper carries like Yi, Tristana, Draven and so on. Her ultimate has A LOT of value and can easily win a 2 v 5 or 3 v 5. Her W is an excelent tool to win those extended trades/fights and ironically her Q is also amazing at stopping strong ganks like Nunu's or Heca without R. I don't really see renata struggling against the likes of blitz, nautilus or any tanky support. Her passive shreds them with your adc.
I love Renata so much but playing her Solo Q is the worst. I feel I do nothing just becausemost of my adc doesn't know how she works 😢
The problem with Renata Glasc is, .. her kit relies so much more on her allies TRUSTING her. This is actually more of a problem with marksmen because they are more inclined to disengage when threatened. I actually think the most interesting thing to do with "Mommy" is to pair her with a champion that is really good at going all in. Think about it, .. her steroid is a lot like Shimmer from Arcane. The characters that are juiced up on Shimmer are INSANELY AGGRESSIVE. It really works to give those hyper aggressive characters up to 3 extra seconds to get an extra kill when they would otherwise have inted. So playing with something like a Yasuo ADC is incredibly strong. I know, I've done it! The problem is, the Yasuo tends to think they are stronger on their own than they really are. If they end up abandoning her to chase after kills, they are much more likely to just die, .. and if the enemy catches onto her being your carry's drug dealer, .. they will just one-shot her first, then wipe the rest of your team.
jinx 😳
Samira works great for that
This is some high quality content for the amount of views it has. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, Velt! I try to get just one of these bad boys out every week to keep the quality high. I appreciate your kind comment
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I'm really liking either Guardian page for aggressive matchups, or Grasp of the Undying for matchups against melee, and pretty much full tank.
Another solid release as a champ! No 200 years type design, she has a clear playing identity, she has clear weaknesses but still has really solid strength in her kit.
So happy with her personally.
The thing I hate is that she has a very unique playstyle. Obviously that's usually a good thing, but not in her case. Since your ult is slower than a turtle, anyone with a decent brain will be able to side step, and even if you use it in a cramped place, people will still be able to walk out, or just let their tenacity do the work. What I like about her playstyle however, is that she is really agressive, requires you to constantly harass the enemy if possible. Sad thing is she gets outtraded by most other poke supports (Zyra, Brand, Karma etc.)
She is definitely not a low elo pick, as she requires a good team to be functional, especially a good adc. I managed to climb to grandmaster with her, and I can tell you, the difference is night and day between playing Renata on low elo, and on high elo
Very good guide. Excellent tips here. Def can tell 100+ games were played at least before the video was released.
Oh, I've been waiting for a good Renata guide. Nice! :P
Wikkkkk, hope you enjoyed it. Have you ever put out a video and you felt meh about it. That was me with this one... there are a few mistakes I caught before upload but it was already 3am so I had to push it :/
@@BCawk Yeah, I know how it feels :/ Or at least I knew, I've been inactive for quite a while. But I get it. Still, gr8 vid! Also, the growth of your channel, damn it I'm impressed :P But you deserve it. Keep up the good work!
Clarification on Renata's W: The steroid movement speed only works if the target ally (or herself) is moving TOWARDS the enemy.
Also if you're going Glacial, then Approach Velocity is a good rune since it synergizes with the glacial proc (aside from her QER abilities), and helps her mitigate her slow movement speed.
Funny how the things i saw on this vid is exactly my play style. For me I always rush imperial mandate on the mythic item ( i wanna try locket if i have the chance. As for Shurelya's, well its ok too if i wanna play a more enchantress style of play) and then abyssal mask (for the enemy team's reduced magic resistance, especially if we have an aggressive mage on our team) then tank items the rest of the game such as frozen heart, thorn mail, sprit visage or force of nature (depends on the situation) or redemption. I always go Merc threads for boots. As for runes, its either guardian or arcane comet. I'm currently in mastery level 6 and I only require 1 more token to reach mastery level 7~
evenshroud pared with firststrike gives insane ammount of money and killing potential with her ult . just my two cents as some one that plays her very often
Damn, I've been running radiant virtue as my mythic on her for team fighting
I had to stop playing kalista as adc due to her. If I get hit by her ult I will put about 100 spears in my teammates
Krom come back to the support side and MAKE Kalistas spear their teammates with us
I've been having the most success with Guardian page and with Locket and Frozen Heart, so I feel vindicated by actual good players doing that as well! I do disagree with maxing E first because it's....it's a bad ability. Really bad. Short range, small shield, small damage, and has poor AP scaling. I much prefer maxing my W first so that I can get it down to a ~10 second cooldown. When it's that low of a cooldown, it's THE best ability for taking objectives like towers and dragons. Giving yourself freedom to use it more liberally makes it feel so much better to max first.
Imperial Mandate also feels like a weird choice because only her E procs it, and, again, I think it's kind of an afterthought ability.
But yea, Battlesong and Locket have felt the best for me, and while Guardian isn't great, with Revitalize and Locket it becomes pretty okay. I've also had absolutely dreadful games when my ADCs insist on taking things like Ezrael or Sivir or Zeri. Against Renata, I've been leaning on my Morgana to block the CC and for poke, but also, surprisingly, Taric is really good against her. His ultimate just completely negates hers because tends to activate his ult early on in fights, and Renata's moves just slow enough for Taric to generally get his off to negate most, if not all of, the berserk stuff. Taric also shines in those "to the death" scrums in bot lane, so that extra three seconds of life still has Taric pumping out heals and shields.
Mandate is proced by her Q, r and ulti I think
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i really dont think her e is bad, ive been suing her as my main for a while and her e is more like for tactical things like Imperial thingy or objects like that, is very usefull cuz of how she can just almost spam it at max
A Rammus Support video would be cool
I think Morgana counters her terribly too
Hard agree
I think they should buff her ult to 1.5 seconds tbh. but what do I know
This channel is such a gem. Also 1:37 fucking killed me
Basically fed Kyle worst nightmare.
"I wish renata sit on me"
i have a problem with running my supports as midlaners, with renata i go ludens etc xD
Haha the two roles feel interchangeable sometimes, does luden's work well for you?
Nice vid. thanks for the info again :)
Thank you for the kind comment homie
such a good and informativ video!!!
Love your supp builds
ngl Renata is one of the best champions that they released the last two years
Another great video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Good seeing you around again Ghosty
@@BCawk you're crazy good at this. Even if you weren't doing support videos I would watch. The way you have the lace of the videos paired with your personality and cadence to how you talk is amazing
Love the info!
So glad! Thank you for commenting
Great content!
Thanks for checking it out!
subbed for saying "uber high"
I'll take it! lol
A proactive/playmaking enchanter. They actually found a niche for the 159th champion released. Well there was Rakan and Taric, but Rakan is more high engage than enchanter, and Taric is melee. Nice job Riot 👍
I know this champion isn’t popular. But could u do a guide on Syndra plz? I already got an A+ with her, I’m trynna get that S.
Btw your videos help a lot.
Hey Samuel,
Absolutely I can look for a Syndra and see if I can make a video about her! Thanks for checking out the vids
She's so good, yet players are so confused when I use W on them... You are supposted to go full crazy and go for the kill, not run around. I was on a 20 win steak with her recenly, most games S+, not a single good play with W, because peeps don't know what to do.
most will run away from they enermy and STILL die
i had people flash after they already died thinking they were still alive and then die anyway...
@@rickmaior9556 bruh, every single game
and when I try to explain people get toxic :D even tho they don't know some champ kits in RANKEDS :O omg
thats why i always ctrl+v her W description before games lmao
Renata DOES NOT struggle against Pyke her winrate against pyke is higher then against any other champion
Agree, most supports that dive alot make it easy for her to land her Q, and if their adc is following through aggressively, it makes it even easier to stun them both.
I've been using aery keystone. Also going frostfire gauntlet 1st. Tankiness and ability haste are really good with her.
Totally agree. Aery is definitely the most popular, just something about glacial makes me love it so much
I only struggle with her Q, she's mighty fine all in all
you neve ruse the ult when the enemy is cc that waste it
love you man
Love ya too
I disagree with your view on Gaurdian. If you look at the stats Guardian is completely outclassing all other keystones by a mile at 54+% wr vs ~49% wr(all others). One reason is Aery takes too long to proc with your long CDs vs Guardian.
Yoooo Stallion, I appreciate the counterpoints and welcome them! When I recorded this Glacial build was at 52% and everything else was at or below 50% is why I mentioned it. It looks like things are definitely moving forward though~
Great vid
Renata actually got me out of Bronze
Por un momento creí que estaba viendo el resumen de una pelicula xd
Having a high winrate doesn't mean it's not balanced stop the bad correlation matey !
renata is bad with cait imo
I hate renata's abilities, for one reason, she just has such massive cooldowns, but two out of three of her basic abilities are pretty meh at best. Her w is so strong that her q and e, despite being at best, as good as other abilities by comparison, they have 4 or 6 seconds more on their cooldown.
She just seems boring to me, really one note, with no combos to learn and having her strongest basic ability be the one she uses the least, since she needs to hold the w for a fight to the death or a rundown.
Yah she feels very inactive in comparison to other supports for sure. Not really my cup of tea either but happy that she's not just dashing everywhere with an overloaded kit as well
She has a very good kit, but I do admit it doesn't seem that fun. Purely one of those champs just to win games. But hitting the Renata ult well is always interesting, especially during late game. When you just watch the enemy team kill each other.
also the overwhelming majority players are NOT in master or above so you made this video bases on a minority not the majority.. like youre saying if you arent master or higher, you dont matter
I DONT SUGGEST GOING COMET OR AERY ON RENATA AT ALL!!!! it’s useless as first page . i’d tell u what’s better but i’ll let y’all figure it out .
Mama. Lol!
She feels very unforgiving in terms of playstyle. You have to time your W exceptionally well if you expect to revive someone or for whenever you use it for speeding, you know you won't have it afterwards as a revive, which makes you hesitant. Everything she has is a skillshot too, miss something and then you have to face huge cooldowns. Ult has to be timed well too, I guess it's not that big of an issue in a teamfight where everyone is focused on fighting each other. She is immobile af and her shield doesn't absorb a lot of damage. If your teammates don't know what her kit does they can't play well with you, and even if they do they have to trust you (more than an enchantress). I feel like they could at least reduce her cooldowns (not referring to W ofc)