How KR Challengers Use Renata Glasc
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Renata's metapassive : each team only has 4 bans.
Lol my last few games have been like this
Every new release champ recieves this passive
@@jesteredGesture not Lilia
@@onbushshifting4000 nor rell
@@onbushshifting4000 lillia was very good on her first months, but then they gutted her clear speed which was what made her good
Riot next patch:
"We were surprised to see that giving Renata a better Zilean ult on a basic ability made her very strong"
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Technically not a better Zilean R
It's more like a single target Kindred R since it prevents death and doesn't "Kill you" become untargetable, cleansing then healing
riot is just stupid, not even surprised anymore
renata, has slow root stun taunt revive shield attack speed steriods, imagine that and say we don't think our champions have overloaded kits WTF?????????
@@JKMT same as lulu but no revive, instead polymorphh, intresting right ?
I really wanna see a renata ulting a fullbuild aphelios that holds infernum in a 5v5 teamfight
I had crescendum in hand and killed half of my team in no time, I think it's better than infernum since your teammates stay close to you most of the time
the bruh moment when Aphelios REALLY 1 vs 9
400 years' worth of Rito
now imagine renata making her entry in the game before aphelios, in order to have renata and the most broken character ever made by riot in the same game.
Meanwhile blitz w; movement speed then slows
yes because blitz Q is literally one of the most game warping and defining basic abilities lmao, its to be expected that he has some weakness *somewhere*, if you misuse your W in lane you get punished
It also gives attack speed
@@inciknight malph.zilean r Morgana q etc
Because you literally could turn the tides with a well-landed Q.
@@kentclark1969 there are stronger abilities though
This video makes me realize that Renata fixes the bad positioning of your team, and instead of being a disadvantage, she makes the bad positioning an advantage
also punishes bad positioning on enemy hard
like in her lore
League community: “akshan having a revive on his W seems kinda op doesn’t it? Nobody likes this.”
Riot literally 2 champions later: *gives champ a revive on W*
A conditional revive that is single target is a lot better than than a full team revive late game her revive works just like a heal or shield that keeps a carry alive
My main problem with her revive is it's not a revive, they just don't die, so anything working with killing doesn't work, urgot ult? tough luck, you wanted triumph heal, hell naw, gold? naah.
aatrox crying in the corner
@@kindrogue5586 you don’t get that with ga or zilean ult also any overkill dmg is transferred over and seeing as how most assassins have the dmg to kill a target 2-3 times while even at times it’s only good if you have a guaranteed kill in under a second
Another thing to consider is that a traditional enchanter has enough healing and/or shielding to do the same thing without conditions karma soraka and lulu will be able to keep a carry alive far longer than a single revive can
@@raithdoom the issue is it's not creative and is a very frustrating mechanic, and also it's just stupid to put revives on basic spells. it's clearly too game changing to not be on an ultimate spell. but i'm not surprised at this point, riot has been extremely uncreative in their kits besides maybe aphelios being the last one
Riot: revive is strong af. Lets take it out from aatrox kit.
Also riot: lets make a champion that can revive an entire team and another champion that can delay your death and if you score a takedown you don't die.
And they did nerf akshan revive mechanic cuz it was too broken then, which wasn't long ago.
But hey they've 200 years experience in game design so...
Having that on Aatrox was way too strong. But I can agree with you that Akshan is a dumb as fuck champion.
@@RainbowTactic revive is a strong mechanic by itself. I don't understand why riot try to force it into the game
It was strong for Aatrox, a thing he didn't need and just was there to make old mains happy
@@jesusmascorro6175 i like that they made it more accessible tbh. Having it exclusively for one champion is when it becomes an issue. Especially on a bruiser with high health, damage, and healing like Aatrox. And Akshan’s is dumb in how he’s an adc who can be in a solo lane and is one of the tankiest adcs.
I know it's a Renata video but 6:38 that lee sin kick is beautiful
where does such healing from lee sin came from??
@@rubenlarocca Death's Dance I guess
Triumph heal from 2 kills and 1 assist
It's literally just a normal kick flash wdym
@@meowie2140 so something normal and simple cant be beautiful?
The final clip. Thanks for that…. The Jinx with GA, the synergy is wild…
Is new to you?
try zilean ult
Zilean and sion need time to revive bro
@@vonguyenkhoa7836 that's an actual good thing for them (probably not sion). Not having a statis affects the revive heavily, due to overkilling damage everywhere
what's crazy about the w is that even if you don't revive from it you or your teammate'll still get more time to deal damage which is really relevant in a support role
Too bad I usually wind up with teammates who waste by using that grey health to run and then die instead of fighting.
It doesn´t matter how useless you were in the game after minute 30 any Ult you hit with Renata is Game winning. What´s better than cc on enemies? A cc that makes them damage each other
Also dont forget 100% attack speed buff on the enemy. Meaning even a useless Kayle or Vayne will shredd their team
As most supports are based on utility without gold too...?
@@milanesadearsenico That's another level of utility though lol
@@trn1446 how? CC, a stat buff and big aoe R for control
@@pittayayas it also helps to shatter crown on mages before your team does dmg, make your opponents waste the ruined king passive on themselves, ashe slow their own team, etc
Dobby really likes this first song, huh😂
sometimes it hits me different at different times
I like it too
The hardest part about playing Renata is actually getting the chance to play her on any mode that isn't Blind Pick, hahah. Great video! :)
One thing to realize is that her ult isn't a CC if you only hit one champ.
Had a fed enemy Master Yi dive 3 of us under turret by himself, so in desperation I unleashed my ult. Well yeah, turns out he still auto-targets enemy champions if his allies or allied minions aren't around, and the Berserk grants him extra attack speed. As I stared at my grey screen after his easy triple, I could hear DJ Khalid in the background...."Congratulations. You played yourself".
Let's all appreciate Dobby making a video for a champion that thats gonna be permabanned. Thank you Dobby!
Believe me when i say i will never ban Renata, not because i think she's weak or unworthy, it's the opposite, she feels strong but not overpowered. At least her revive has a condition and doesn't bring back 4 teammates with full hp. I'm happy riot can release a somewhat balenced champion again with good lore and voicelines...
@@ApocalypticFart its not the revive thats strong, its the ramping AS and ramping movement speed attached to it that resets per kill
@@ApocalypticFart If you don't think Renata is overpowered, you also think that release samira and aphelios was totally fine.
@@yoshi596 if you think renata is overpowered you probably think asol needed those nerfs she is strong but only in the right hands she’s not much of a problem if you actually pay attention to what she’s doing
@@ApocalypticFart glad someone else thinks a single revive is better than a whole team revive
So much valuable information in one video. Instant subscribe for me! Keep up the great work!
"Renatas kit is the most OP weve seen so far" oh boy coming from dobby, looks like its gonna be a fun few weeks out on the rift 👍
Idk of the man's heard of viego gwen or akshan. Love them all but pretty sure their kits are a little worse
@@Roaringdawn No fing way is Gwen any worse than just alone, Rens w. Her w is by far in the top three of the most broken abilities.
@@Roaringdawn yea I agree, typical ppl forgot how champs like zoe aphelios gwen and samira had absurdly broken kits.
@@m-mori it's an overreaction like everyone else. Yes it's powerful but if u look at Gwen's whole kit and Renata's whole kit gwen has far more in it that she didn't need. Overloaded means added features that are just extra bells and whistles that didn't need to be part of the kit just makes them more powerful for no reason like Renata's revive mechanic but besides that Renata doesn't have anything that you would call overloaded in any way shape or form. Gwen on the other hand the way her pasive just procs no joke 27 times with one decent combo her E resets and her litteral Xin ultimate gives her far more stuff she didn't need in her kit but did get over Renata.
@@wolhaiiik5387 not gonna lie while Renata's w is completely bull that is also where her entire power budget went to. Compared to champions I just mentioned above the only extra she has is the revive mechanic. I've listed some of the other stuff someone like gwen has in terms of parts she definitely didn't need to be a good kit but they gave it anyway. And honestly while Zoe has a good amount of stuff in her kit nothing really screams like she didn't need any of it besides her W summoner pickup that is the only thing I find an overloaded part of her kit the rest all makes sense. It's powerful and super annoying and hard to balance burst but it isn't an extra feature tagget on for no reason. I do agree on samira though.
Dobby!! I love your videos and every time you upload. By the way, can you make a new video on Zeri because she got mini reworked and goes a crit build now so I would like to take more notes from your video ^-^
Even though the revive is the most outstanding part of her w but the pure attack speed and movement speed buff the ability provide is pretty insane too which lot of people overlooks
thx dobby from france love you ! Want to see you in LCK
Great video, really explain well a lot of stuff. Time to suscribe.
Enemy Yi and his teams starts engaging.
Renata G's Ult: Go yeet!
Love your videos man. always informative.
just clutched a game against gigafed yi with well-timed renata ult, what a good day
Not to forget the drake/baron steal potential
that would only work in low elo, as you can still use smite when Renata has ulted you, and it doesnt give her the kill.
Any halfway decent jungler can prevent Renata from ever Baron/Drake stealing by just saving smite
gracias Dobby tus videos son de gran ayuda!
Are you gonna upload the zac video too with english subtitles ?
Sure I'll upload it
Impressive, in every unexpected 2v3 there's always another teammate to help, you barely see this in low elo
I'll correct you, you NEVER see this in low elo :(
Remove Aatrox's revive just to bring it back on Renata. I love Riot's logics
I was waiting this.
You can flash then Q, but can you start Q and then flash to extend it?
Eventually there will be a champions who's ultimate will just be like Renata's but single target and quicker and it will just force an enemy to use their ult towards their nearest teammate
Don't give riot ideas please
and it will also be a basic ability (maybe passive at this point tbh)
the next void champ will certainly control minds
@@guifdcanalli I really look forward to her big time tbh. Void monster champion? Yes sir gimme gimme
that second song is one of my favorites
Do enemies deal less damage to other enemies when they're affected with glacial?
Will aatrox get a revive back on his now as reviving is a norm ability
Thank you very much!
Never knew you could ult flash. That's good to know!
You pretty much laid down all there is to it, nice video
Dobby do you plan to make some wild rift vidoes?
Kinda happy to see one of my move ! (I'm the Zac ! :P) 4:05
i find it amusing that there was this brief movement of people pushing her W as not being too good, bashing anyone saying anything different. It puts a smile on my face knowing that they were totally wrong.
If you were playing another support would your ally have needed to be revived in the first place?? Janna. Lulu. Soraka? Lol
@@skylerfreeman1173 yes, they would
since you would do less damage, have less cc, and probably less utility after 6
once used her q to push a ww right as he was in my face ulting. felt so good.
can u dodge the R with flash forward
The Zed pingpong between Lee and Renata at 7:45 is so satisfying.
Bramblevest will proc on R ?
Is that 200 years of collective gaming design?
Feels like the Demon Slayer Entertainment arc where the 2 demon siblings are cursing at each other before the inevitable demise
does the damage done by taunted enemies count as renata damage ?
seeing this just fills me with joy, my decision to quit league 4 months ago was the right decision
dobby you might not see this but i got an S on my first game on reneta cuz of your video lol thanks
can someone tell me what is the name of the best play in the world of Renata? since i'm learning her and i would like her to be my main champ
Thank you
4:10 Ah yes, the famous NISQY LFT and PatateVolante from KR Challenger !
Late but mechanic with ult. U can bind someone with q, r and push them back when the r hits them. Idk how useful it would be, but pretty dope.
You can also hide the R if you use it during your Q
Nice info to know when its a permaban champion :)
That stopwatch interaction is going away 100%
so what champ can counter her? i think morg, yuumi, soraka.
Thx 😁
"w is renata's identity" a hallarious discription, though I can see how it's true nevertheless.
I don't that was a joke lol, champs are designed to have their identity. Such as Teemo's traps, Udyr Stances etc...
To me, her identity is her ult. If they rework her W to be the old hextech soul and not giving full life, then i will say its balanced.
Her w feels like old tahm w - an ability with so much utility it's crazy
why does w also considers assists as a revive kill? It should only be direct kills
it's takedowns
that's pretty much her only saving grace for her self
she has no mobility
so it being Takedowns also helps her stay alive when doing assist for but a cost of other teammates that might have needed it to stay alive
so it gives Reneta Players something to think about who needs it the most and gives her some survivability for her lack of mobility
I don't understand how q works... how do you pull them towars you
I was waiting the Zac video :(
Quit league a few years ago, can't even bother to imagine what it's like to get back into it.
renata the only champ that make you lose a teamfight when your team is all fed,three times in a row
And yet... Aatrox having a revive on his ult was overpowered
Renata when using her W: You will not kill my ally!
Is about time a sup had an overloaded kit
Yesterday enemy Renata ulted our fed Senna with elder buff... Was fun :)
What's her ultimate cooldown by default? If it's less than 2 minutes 40 at level 6 and less than 2 minutes by level 16 then potentially sneaking in an axiom arc as her final item might be worth.
the value sinks as the games goes on tho
@@cosmosDiv ok but he asked for her cooldowns
@@TheXavir99 okay but its a quick look up on google lmao
It's 150/130/110
So 2:30 at 6, 1:50 at 16, but she ends up getting a fair bit of ability haste as well
axiom arc is wasted gold, just getting AH from items normally is enough.
Is the quimtech drake
you give me an idea to make her with full cooldown, damage doesnt matter, survival and partner is 2nd priority, i can make her really tanky with pretty much of ability haste.
thanks for the video, i make my own meta now.
Watching that Irelia engage at around 3:55 again.
I won't forget my 15 - 2 Trynda game one shot my team because of her stupidly OP ultimate.
You asked for that by grouping, just split against her
Counters: Have fun
She is pretty much engage/disengage/enchater support with a revive
once when i was playing kai'sa adc my gp with renata R killed me since he was doing 500 per auto crit ;-;
since I do everything in this video, am I a korean challenge player?
I'm honestly surprised the revive from akshan isn't added to her ult, and no true dommage too .... tss tss riot, it's never gonna work
Dobby said have fun and I said I’m always banning that champ
You can finally directly kill your teammates if they int lol
I love how everybody in the west considered her balanced when she's clearly op
@Gorgon it was a bunch of support mains trying to compare soraka healing to Renata w, it was also mostly people who watched UA-cam videos saying she's balanced.
actually find her pretty balanced, i've fucked every single one i've meet, her kit has very low range and hight cold downs, still i think they should remove the revive after an assist and make the actuall revive a little bit more lasting, like yorik ult used to be or something.
@@ernestofernandez1459 It's funny and easy to say Renata broken but if you were playing another support, would your ally have died and needed a revive in the first place??? And that revive is NOT saving them if they're caught out lol 😆
@Gorgon your wrong
with renata you can Q flash if you fast
Little fun Thing I found Out you can even Push away Yone during His r Cast, that way He can Hit nothing
💞💞💞
She is amazing in team play. In solo q yeah not so much. Your adcs dont follow up or just straight up run away with w on them. Better pick another enchanter that is always consistent no matter what team you have. Like Sona or Nami.
Lol no.
@@nitram.9621 maybe it's just matter of time as people catch up on how to play with her, but on lower elo where i hang out, she didnt really seem that oppresive, and im sure it's 99% because people just cant seem to use her properly, at least yet.
but as the guy above said, if you cannot capitalize on her W well, renata seems really weak, and thats what happens in most cases with her on low elo.
@@NakiYarou i mean taking low elo as a benchmark doesnt really work. League balancing team has been doing that for ages and we can agree on the fact that it is not working
@@nitram.9621 Im just saying thats what most people will expirence, in the end if she'll be too strong on high end she will get nerfed, but honestly im not impressed so far.
I can´t play league on PC anymore because of my potato computer, but I´m playing Wild Rift. Hopefully she will be released there, looks very fun.
gg
i find the hardest part of the character is that even if you make a good play your team mate will not know what to do with it
Exactly, all the games I played so far my ADC just stands there for a sec, realizes that they're still alive and THEN try to fight lol
@@almightygod87 bro ong thats it
THE REVIVE MECHANIC AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE YOUR ENEMIES KILL EACH OTHER IS WHAT MAKES RENATA A DEADLY OPPONENT TO BEGIN WITH! HAHAHAHAHA!
seeing the enemy kill their teammates is so satisfying when playingg renata
W is pretty op
The ult is extremely situational that ranges from int to waste to good to super good
Try building staff of flowing water, Ardent censer, everfrost, nashor tooth, mejai, rabadon.
Old Yorick is crying together with Aatrox
Ngl.. What were they even thinking... The fact that riot even released something so broken shows that either someone behind it has too much authority that no one bothered or could stop him/her or riot is actually doing it for the ads and memes to prevent the game from dying
Must neft w to heal or shield only 50% hp
her W will always heal the burning target back to only 30% hp if they manage to save themselves, otherwise it just delays death for 3 seconds or less if there are other DOT effects on top of that or just any damage in general.
How is this going to work in pro games? I mean teamfights seem so rng
Shows glacial rune, next clip aery hits
in diamond I play her as full tank, on support role.... locket, frozen heart, abyssal, its good
Who thought revive was such an OP mechanic. We literally just remove chemdrake soul because it broke the game sheesh
in 10 Renata games I've had I only successfully revived 3 people, all matches we were ahead. it doesn't give you 2 HP bars or a tryndamere ult, it just stop death if you get a kill or assist. like how you could get revived at 10 HP then die right after from a random skill shot. also stream blackout by Britney💖
@@arinolagrenade7443 True. Played her a few games and tbh the buff is already so useful that the revive is not needed, it's just a bonus to encourage to be aggresive and to get kills.
chemtech drake was removed because the camouflage zones provided a huge advantage to winning teams. the soul was basically useless, as was the revive.
The chemdrake was OP for its camouflage zone. It's literally no way back for the losing team as they would just get picked on more easily.