@@emprahsfinest7092 naturally bc you're facing 2-3 people at once. I would also assume you'd build fairly different items if you're top as compared to support
I was looking through high elo swain players in KR and found a player running Aery/inspriation and building Rylais into Evenshroud/Locket. I've been using it over the last 60 games or so and it's surprisingly strong
Let's goooo , that video just came up on the right time . I had enough of playing real * supports * ( soraka , nami ... etc ) because if your adc can't fking CS that's it . Then i started playing velkoz and xerath to make my own damage but i die a lot ( wich is my fault ) , But that swain look soooo fit in my situation . Thank you a lot my man , hope you'll shine very very soon . All love and support
Take it from a former OTP Velkoz supp! if you are dying a lot then is your fault! Need more practice landing the E so you can escape most dire situations!
Top-tier puns right there Don't really want to nitpick a great video, but Swain's E is called "NeverMOVE" :D. I think the most difficult part of the ability is to hold it just enough to maximise the enemy's ensnared time and not to miss the soul fragment. I really hoped for the Imperial mandate mention. It's super strong on support Swain in combination with Rylai's. Against heavy AD comps you can ditch the Zhonya's and pick Frozen Heart instead.
Oh GOD! This is a nightmare for me how did I become dyslexic and call it nevermore nooooooooooooo! Lol thank you for the other tips and mentions though, they're much appreciated! I'll give the Rylai's Mandate build a shot!
I personally feel like going conqueror on support Swain makes you lose a lot of early game power. It can definitely make you more of a threat in teamfights / midgame -- but that's up to your preference. I personally go electrocute and liandri's most of my games to get the best of both worlds lol
@@BCawk what i like with conqueror is that you can take Resolve with it with conditioning and overgorth for more tankiness , make you a very durable frontlane that drain a lot of hp from enemy team
Glacial augment is nice but kinda wasted when you buy Rylais anyways imo. Rylas + Ult + Ult R shockwave, + Everfrost + E aswell.... imo there is no need to go the glacial augment road.
There definitely are some people running moonstone and it actually works pretty well since Swain's Q is on such a low CD. I just didn't have a large enough sample size to analyze it here I'm sorry :/. But, definitely still worth a try!
@@BCawk The automatic healing effect is pretty negligible, the actual strength of the Moonstone is 30% of healing increase at the full ramp (5 stacks) that you keep up during ult. Still probably not as good as other options IMHO.
Playstyle is pretty different. But, you should feel with swain you have more agency in lane if you can hit E's. I'd say go for it! He's one of my favorites
Yessir! Builds pretty much identical still. I will say some people like going mandate into rylai's which o didn't cover in this video. So play with the builds to see what you like best. Personally almost every game I'm going Liandris into Zhonyas into tank item. Or Liandris into Morellonomicon for healing heavy teams. Enjoy my dude!
I personally don't like it on support swain I think electrocute or glacial is better. But you if you do well early game it is a much better mid and late game rune. So up to you!
Count your blessings you have not faced one. She is legitimately one of the BEST invading supports in the game. I average 2-4 assists before the 3 minute mark because his E is stupid strong.
Good to see everyone is still sleeping on Swains most op mythic - Imperial Mandate You go Mandate > Rylais and everything you do creates the marks. Besides, Mandate has all the stats that swain needs, and is cheaper then Liandry
exactly 0 % cause Swain is a development failure, as a single champion extraordinary bad and useless, no matter how good the player is. Its the best champion to carry from Diomand to bronze elo in short time
Please ignore me calling Swain's E "Nevermore" instead of "Nevermove" 😭
I mean we will "Nevermore" hear from the cought enemy champion , right 😂
Quoth the raven "nevermore"
I understood megamorve
Dota player confirmed, made the same mistake for years
@@Azzapp xD , seems like y'all have a common thing right here .
note : I really enjoy your vel koz plays bro
While Swain support is still scary, these Swain tops ending up with 4800 hp by 30 mins are the true demons of the rift. It's like facing a mage Sion
Tell me the ways!
@@noobjitsu1743 im pretty late, but a lot of it is having good cs and also hitting e and w consistently to scale to the crazy hp
@@breezyentertainment If i was to try the strat id prob ban irelia.
U scale your passive faster bot lane though
@@emprahsfinest7092 naturally bc you're facing 2-3 people at once. I would also assume you'd build fairly different items if you're top as compared to support
Can we get a mention for Swain being the highest win rate bot laner over every meta ADC?
True i always get an S+ with swain as supp!
love how clear and descriptive you are when explaining this stuff, subscribed!
Yessssss Swaiiiiin!! Been one of my favorite new supports and the rework just made him more fun! Great video cawk man ❤️
Lately theres been one korean swain support player by the name of 건들면물어재낌 that goes Rylais->Hourglass->Mandate while maxing W->E and tbh is really fun
I was looking through high elo swain players in KR and found a player running Aery/inspriation and building Rylais into Evenshroud/Locket. I've been using it over the last 60 games or so and it's surprisingly strong
Let's goooo , that video just came up on the right time . I had enough of playing real * supports * ( soraka , nami ... etc ) because if your adc can't fking CS that's it . Then i started playing velkoz and xerath to make my own damage but i die a lot ( wich is my fault ) , But that swain look soooo fit in my situation . Thank you a lot my man , hope you'll shine very very soon . All love and support
Thanks, Med! I too prefer damage heavy supports so Swain is about to hop into my pool too. Appreciate you homie!
I always pick Swain when my favorite Senna is banned or when we desperately need AP damage.
Take it from a former OTP Velkoz supp! if you are dying a lot then is your fault! Need more practice landing the E so you can escape most dire situations!
Swain Q is just a shotgun attack. closer the target, better the damage
thoughts on moonstone renewer on swain? the ult proc'ing moonstone passive continuously. got the idea from watching nemesis play moonstone swain mid
Nooooooo, dont tell them our secrets
Amazing video
iv been looking for videos about Swain and this is probobly the best one iv seen :)
Ah man, now everyone talks about swain. You all getting my champ nerfed
Jeez, "mi-crow" xd Serious dad energy. But gr8 video overall ;)
LOL I can't help it with the puns. Thanks Wik
Top-tier puns right there
Don't really want to nitpick a great video, but Swain's E is called "NeverMOVE" :D. I think the most difficult part of the ability is to hold it just enough to maximise the enemy's ensnared time and not to miss the soul fragment.
I really hoped for the Imperial mandate mention. It's super strong on support Swain in combination with Rylai's.
Against heavy AD comps you can ditch the Zhonya's and pick Frozen Heart instead.
Oh GOD! This is a nightmare for me how did I become dyslexic and call it nevermore nooooooooooooo!
Lol thank you for the other tips and mentions though, they're much appreciated! I'll give the Rylai's Mandate build a shot!
@@BCawk I thought it was Nevermore for the longest time. It’s the crows, just makes me immediately think nevermore
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what about playing it with conqueror ? i saw a lot 0laying with these runes with a Liandry and it seem to work prety well in teamfight
I personally feel like going conqueror on support Swain makes you lose a lot of early game power. It can definitely make you more of a threat in teamfights / midgame -- but that's up to your preference.
I personally go electrocute and liandri's most of my games to get the best of both worlds lol
@@BCawk what i like with conqueror is that you can take Resolve with it with conditioning and overgorth for more tankiness , make you a very durable frontlane that drain a lot of hp from enemy team
amazing video thank u so much!
Great vid!
Glacial augment is nice but kinda wasted when you buy Rylais anyways imo. Rylas + Ult + Ult R shockwave, + Everfrost + E aswell.... imo there is no need to go the glacial augment road.
how about moonstone renewer?
There definitely are some people running moonstone and it actually works pretty well since Swain's Q is on such a low CD. I just didn't have a large enough sample size to analyze it here I'm sorry :/. But, definitely still worth a try!
Mandate is infinitely better)
@@BCawk The automatic healing effect is pretty negligible, the actual strength of the Moonstone is 30% of healing increase at the full ramp (5 stacks) that you keep up during ult. Still probably not as good as other options IMHO.
Fiddle main supp since years here. Thinking about switching to swain. Thoughts?
Playstyle is pretty different. But, you should feel with swain you have more agency in lane if you can hit E's. I'd say go for it! He's one of my favorites
@@BCawk cool thx for the fast replay. In terms of positioning I see some similarity between the two!
For the build nothing changed?
Yessir! Builds pretty much identical still.
I will say some people like going mandate into rylai's which o didn't cover in this video. So play with the builds to see what you like best.
Personally almost every game I'm going Liandris into Zhonyas into tank item. Or Liandris into Morellonomicon for healing heavy teams.
Enjoy my dude!
Finally I'm going to play Swain on mobile now
Good job Man :)
wow thanks for making this
No problem!
Yup
you think is conqueror any good on him?
I personally don't like it on support swain I think electrocute or glacial is better. But you if you do well early game it is a much better mid and late game rune. So up to you!
@@BCawk Understandable.
Thanks for the answer
Wait... he’s a support?
Count your blessings you have not faced one. She is legitimately one of the BEST invading supports in the game. I average 2-4 assists before the 3 minute mark because his E is stupid strong.
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wow, man, these puns, tho...
Forgive me...... or join in with me :P
i like moonstone as mythic atm
I only run liandris sometimes even riftmaker but liandris makes his attacks so much more strong and his ult
Nevermore, nevermore... nevermove?
Good to see everyone is still sleeping on Swains most op mythic - Imperial Mandate
You go Mandate > Rylais and everything you do creates the marks.
Besides, Mandate has all the stats that swain needs, and is cheaper then Liandry
Fine, and now delete this Comment.
I dont want the boyz to get the freeelo.
Well, Gold and below cant use it anyway
I think it's fair to say I missed the mark by not even talking about the possibility of mandate. Thanks for point this out Vargot!
Is this good with Font of life? I love going Glacial + Font of life
NEVERMORE???? 🤣🤣
I know...... it hurts.......
you are capping. the best swain support in the world is MONDOVITTORIO
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exactly 0 % cause Swain is a development failure, as a single champion extraordinary bad and useless, no matter how good the player is. Its the best champion to carry from Diomand to bronze elo in short time
don't believe in this video, sup cant carry 🤣 u only relay on ur team