Chinese Diesel Heater New Controller Q & As
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This is the "New Type Chinese Diesel Heater Controller" that now seems to be shipping with the Diesel Heaters. Since my last video in the functions of the heater I have been asked a heap of questions some of which I answer in this video.
My original video link
• Diesel Heater New Type...
I will endeavour to make some more videos if more questions are asked and also a video on replacement controllers, and common problems through the use of the diesel heaters
Thanks for watching
I think these would sell better, if it did not have digital LCD controls and instead had regular knobs ...that are labelled. Having to use these screens and hold down multiple buttons, etc..gets to be to complex for something as simple as a heater.
I have seen those sold with simple controller as well that has only power button and turning knob/regulator for heat output and no display at all.
I so agree!
They have them
They sell them already
Have you a way to synchronize the remote control on in this style of controller panel?
Quick note about the remote's battery: "27A" stands for the format (more accurately "A27" or "MN27"), not 27 amperes, which would be one hell of a revolution in the small battery world. The "A" stands for "Alkaline" (I think). The A27 is about the same diameter as the AAAA battery but much shorter, and holds only 20-22mAh of capacity, 28 times less than a 1.5V AAAA battery. The higher voltage makes it last longer on low usage.
Thanks for the info
Beautiful videos on this. You saved the nightmare of an eBay heater from being returned! Got it all running now. Thank you. D🤙🙏
Woooow amazing video. No clickbait no ads spamming. A great intro with the times explained. I just knew this was not kid that made this video. Very very very nice. Straight to the point. Great explanation. ❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍. Realy these days u dont find a lot of videos like this. Great job 👍
This controller is worth nothing, at full power the housing gets to 210 degrees and than it starts to derate te pump frequency in an irratic way to limit the temperature, not a very elegant way. I swapped the motherboard and controller with the old type and adjusted the advanced settings, runs perfectly fine now. May be the factory is able to tune the heater with this controller, mine was not properly tuned, way to much fuel.
what do you mean erratic? Mine adjusts it to keep between 200 and 210C. It seems to be spot on without any soot so its obviously not too rich. I live at 300ft above sea level (which may affect the ratio) and perhaps the single most important thing is the high difference between the fuel and the heater. Mine is about 3ft. I mention that last thing because if you activate the pump at 3ft for a 28ml pump you get 28ml of fuel for 1000 ticks. If you have more than 3ft you get less and below 3ft you get more fuel. If you gave -3ft the fuel actually doesn't stop and floods it. The newer unit certainly does auto regulate and if you think about it it really does have to because there are so many factors. It doesn't really have any excuse, it knows the temperature of the casing and it knows fuel amount and fan speed so the only thing it can't know is how much restriction there is on the inlet and outlet.
Yes , it is doing that, it changes the frequency all the time to keep the temperature in that range, yes, you get the maximum amount of power, but thats not always wat you want, if you don’t need that, its nice if you can lower the amount of fuel to your needs, the heater also burns cleaner this way if I look at the amount of CO, thats why I like the old controller more. For the rest, it works fine as it is, there you are right.
@@wilvandendoel6782 the pump speed and fan speed must be correlated, or the carbon monoxide or excess air would be all over the place. The temperature in the casing is not a control sensor, per se. It is a feed-back to the ECU to determine flame or flame-failure and as a top limit to prevent heater damage, nothing (much) more.
Thank you very much for this video - theyre not the most intuitive unit. Im curious to know your thoughts on the safety of these units, especially from the persepctive of the checks it go thorugh to monitor for faults, be it during start up or operation. I am considering plumbing the pickup into my vehicles deisel tank, but would like to have a better understanding of any potential risks first.
Very good video for this new controller, thanks for sharing
Thank you for yet another great video...I watched your last one with the timer setting but cant seem to work it out..what your saying is, ie set for 12hrs at 9am should come on at 9pm..and set to run 1-2hrs..could you do another video just on timer setting please.
Thanks. Will do a timer video soon. If you set the timer it will either come on after the hours set ie 12 hours OR turn off after the set time. Only 1 timer program can be set at a time
Hi great video although my controller is exactly the same I do not have a picture of the mountain you have too right of display ?, also ambient temperature says 31c, but it’s not it’s only 22c outside 🤷♂️
There are 3 or 4 firmwares!
I have the same firmware on my blue panel, as you have on your black panel! The remote also allow button combinations too!
How do you update the firmware
Thank you for posting this, a big help for the diesel heater I just purchased. Would love to see a heater maintenance video.
I can enter the secret menu but can't change the digits. I have only 000. After i came in to this menu i can't out.
I set the controller to oc1 but the attached remote control does not make contact. Does anyone recognize this problem?
My temp on the top left stay 34C try lower down using manual but won’t change to 19C.
Any help much appreciated.
Thanks for the excellent update Mic. Your first video sorted me and my new heater.
Do you know if this" new controller", can be changed for older or blue controller without changing the mother board( ECU)?
Also I noted that in all your video answers you had alpine mode on. Was this necessary?
Thanks.
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No, it's not compatible with other motherboards. If you want to change controllers, both need to be changed. No reason for alpine mode being on. Thanks for the compliment
I wish it were programmable for time of day use for automatic temp and run times.
I wish it were programmable for time of day use for automatic temp and run times.
The first mode that this guy did when it was on those who don’t know it actually did do some thing it turned on a light with a gear circle and inside the gear circle is the thermometer so it’s telling you the inside temperature and it’s to protect the inside temperature, so if it goes to a certain temperature, it’ll shut off without catastrophic failure
Im looking for an icon guide for this unit.
Hey, i'm still looking for the admin password (3 pin), does anyone have information about it ??
W codes, 678 & 987 but neither do anything
Thank you helped a lot.
How do you change language on controller; as mine is in Chinese
Something to mention, i think these units auto regulate fuel and air to maintain a 150C case temperature. I have been testing if these units will run on waste oils, and they do. I tested with used motor oil mixed with 30% gasoline, this mixture runs fine around 145C and the machine will start on it just fine. a 20% gas mixture ran fine but the start up was rough in 4C ambient temp, took 2 tries to start, and smoked a whole lot, with this mix id recommend starting and stopping on diesel to get combustion temp up. I also tested 10% gasoline and 90% used motor oil, this ran fine around 140C but eventually i think it made it to close to 150C, i did not try starting on this mix, as i feared it would not start and i would have to re-prime my lines with diesel. I think this unit auto regulates air and fuel because if left long enough, the oil gas mix will reach close to 150C case temperature, even though it starts out lower. I also ran this heater on straight diesel and on setting 6 i only got the case temp to about 150C. HOWEVER, after running my 10% gasoline mix i switched the fuel back to straight diesel and once it went through all the lines i was able to see 190C case temp, then it slowly lowered back down to around 160C. I think this unit attempts to auto compensate for different grades of fuel and it tries its best to get the case temp to be stable at 150C, this process is slow, but i think that is what it is doing. I am trying vegetable oil in this heater next.
Very interesting. Keep me informed of your results
Thanks for the fuel mix data 👍🏻😀🇬🇧
I too think that this model does something different than the previous models with the red digits. With those, you have to mess with injection frequency for a given fan speed - but thats a bit silly, if you know the fan speed and case temperature and you can adjust the fuelling then that is far better than putting in bingo values and hoping for the best. Mine runs on diesel only and runs far leaner than the ones other people mess with - and I don't have to mess with it, it runs clean as a whistle almost no deposits at all. So the other day I ran it when it was already warm inside, I noticed it quickly warmed to 200C and then you can audibly hear the fuel rate decrease but the fan stays as it was, the outflow temperature was around 100 and it regulated at around that. I'm not sure if the older designs do that - or at least do it quite as well. From the videos I have seen, people seem to be running them way way too rich just because they can adjust the fuel frequency. You don't want stochiometric ratio, that only applies to fixed volume rather than a flame in a windy tube, besides if they see black smoke or soot build up its obviously too rich.
@@dr_jaymz thanks for the info. I'm thinking of doing a video on this issue. The more info I can get the better
I find my 8kw likes tobe at around 190 and thought that was the norm?
What does the red circle with the red dash mean?
Power is available but unit is off
my controller lcd not bright hard to see indaylight?
Fantastic vid,much more confident with my new heater.Many thanks for this and your previous vidio.
Thank you for the great video. Am I correct in assuming that I cannot set the on timer and the off timer to work in succession. For example, I want the heater to come on in 1 hour for then turn off an hour later when I am away from my caravan. I might want to do this if I know it will be freezing tonight and I want to heat up the interior for a little while in the middle of the night. It looks like I can only activate the on time timer when it is not running and the off time timer when it is running but I need to activate each of these manually.
@@backdoc94 that is correct
We have this controller and your vids are so helpful. Do you still need to start this heater on high to burn off any residue? I’m a little confused as I know it starts up in manual mode then we switch over to auto.
Probably best to do so upon start up
A very useful video. On mine I just use the timer settings, mostly. Usually the auto turn-off after the set time. It allows me to run it for the set time after leaving the area. Good for a heat boost on a cold night with just a quick trip to the heater to start it, select pump speed (usually H 6) and select the timing mode (a one hour run has been adequate thus far). Then lock up and leave. Top two buttons on the controller (I think, but not sure) select the timer mode when running.
They must have programmed the minimum pump speed (5000 strokes per hour seems usual - 50 strokes in 36s or 1.4Hz) and the maximum stroke rate, along with the associated fan speeds somewhere. I am wondering if the motherboard has any means of re-programming these settings? Or maybe the smaller heater is simply fitted with a smaller capacity pump?
I have a 2kW ‘small body’ heater which I have not checked out much.. That it works is a bonus, with these heaters.🙂
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The new remote control with OLED display has 2 x AAA 1.5V Micro LR03 cells. WTF A27 or A23 that annoys everyone.
OLED display remote control (433Mhz) should be / is compatible with the new controller according to the operating instructions. It is cheaper to buy an OLED display remote control than A27 batteries. I use two old 1,2V Ni-MH... Thank You for the Video!
Thanjs fie this video.
These controllers are badly designed. In combination with the useless instructions that they come with. The user manual got was terrible, I could not even prime mine until I searched for videos on YT.
Do these new controllers not display the time? Also can you set these nee controllers to turn the machine on and off like the old units . Thanks
@@philprice760 NO to both questions
I have an e: 01 code coming up every now and again what’s the problem?
www.aclsretail.com/support-request/heater-error-codes
Hi Mic, great video and my has just started showing E-8 while trying to start up. Do you know what this may be? All I've been able to find is E-08 in Google search. Some say fuel issue? Can you enlighten me before I lose my sh#t.
Cheer
When it errors out with E-8 it doesn't show the red triangle in the top right corner like in the secret menu.
www.aclsretail.com/support-request/heater-error-codes
swich the motherboard to the old style
I am feeling jealous of all you people. The "I'm roasting" comment was hard to deal with, as i have been tryn SO HARD lol. I chilly. I Bought it installed in a van already, fixed a connector & with minor adjustments the lcd lit up....i'm now waiting to check fuel line primed in morning. My battery is hooked to a trickle charger thingy 12v on low as per my best mates instruction. My lcd will not turn off & only shuts down if/when i disconnect the charger. Also my blue fan icon has neva spun. I get the cold air thru vent. Pls Halp
A make sure battery is good
B make sure you have enough amperage to supply the unit. It needs 15a-25a for startup
On this type of controller do you know how to put it into Hz mode as i need to connect it to a separate water heater controller
See my other video
Can the heater also be set to turn off when the desired temperature is reached, and turn on again when the temperature in the room has dropped too far?
No
No, it can only be shut off by the timer. Or manually shut off with off button.
I'm looking for a way to change voltage from 12 to 24.
Please, how to pair the digital remote to the controller?
@CmteGrana see my other video. It explaines it
Nice
Air bubble inline E8
Again thank you for the knowledge about the heater panel. Did you really test all 1000 possible numbers for a menu? :D
Yes. Went through all number combinations
What would help is being a NASA Scientist. Its a fucking heater.
Mine scrolls past 1-6 never a heat temperature. It just cycles straight through. Wish it would stop on 1 or 6 when using the remote i never know what setting its on without looking
Good stuff Mic, I look forward to your future videos.
When running the heater in manual in H1 setting, is the pump running at 0.044ml per second ie (2 pumps per second)
I think it pumps slower than that. Off memory, I think it runs at around 1 pump per second. Each pump would be at the designated volume
I have this type of controller and would like to say thanks for this video.
I have modified my controller to work with Amazon Alexa to be able to turn it on and off. May sound basic but it allows me to turn it on with my phone before I get home.
Thanks for the reply. I'd love to know what your method is to connect Alexa. I gather you connected a wireless unit to the power button.
@@2005mic I used a bit of soldering and some mechanical knowledge. I have tried to document it on my old Ducati blog so that others can benefit from it. I'll give you the link, feel free to copy any of it, including the pictures if you want, for your UA-cam channel.
I am not an electrician but have a little mechanical knowledge so most people should be able to do the same.
ducatistbike.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=706&action=edit
is the blog post.
E-2 error. my first battery wasn't strong enough for the glow plug. i switched to a big car battery and no error. hope this helps.
VERY useful, thank you. How does the "Alpine Mode" function for actual alpine altitudes--6,000--9,000 ft? In the USA mountain West, such altitudes are common. Thanks!
😈👍...Hi..I bought it for my garage, it works great,.thank you.!!
Excellent informative video. I was on the verge of goin to check into the nutty ward before i found your vudeo an realised I'd bought a heater with the new but looks the same controller. Much Love 😂
Great video. Thank you.
I would like to know why my controller do not show the voltage? I only see 3 bars and that it? also I tried to push the buttons for diesel pumping and then after i tried to start. it doesn't work. I cannot see anything moving. I cannot browse the menu. The only time I see something was CO-1 for remote control pairing and that all. The battery is fully charged and it is a deep cycle battery for rv and not used at the moment. and it is a 95 amps hour deep cucle group 31D. also the engine and diesel pump does not any noise. is it deffective unit ?
Probably the controller motherboard is defective. There have been many defective motherboard
Hello,
it melts to a maximum of 90-95 degrees Celsius. I don't know what to do, I can't set anything. i At full power it seems that the fan is running at full speed but the fuel pump is running slowly .. Thanks for the ideas
Great information, can you show how to set the time/clock and the timers? Thanks
Timers are explained in my 1st video. There is no settable clock on this controller
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Says video was uploaded 3 months ago I guess they have released another controller since then .. the new one I’ve seen has a round dial on it and it’s voice activated along with your remote control. Can you check it out and make a video on that one .?.
Why does my screen keep shutting off a few seconds after turning it on?
hi , how long did you have to prime before the fuel reached the pump ?….also I have the blue controller and it appears to do exactly the same functions as your black one and the little blue icon by the air intake is exactly the same as yours but there are other blue controllers that function differently with a slightly different icon .
They self don't prime that well. You need to get the fuel to the pump, then prime from pump to heater
thank you for making this vid - i have 2 heaters heating my home ( well the 2 rooms the 2 of us use 90% of the time) - one is the older version and the other is this one - i prefer the older version as you can use secret menus to adjust fan , pump speeds etc etc ...... the new one has none of this ..... but saying that this one works just fine ......... i have it set to minimum all the time , thats all it needs to keep me warm - same for herself downstairs - all good - looking at mixing in filtered used engine oil but will probably make a duel fuel system with a selector valve between tank a and tank b - start up on pure kerosene , after at running temp switch over to 60/40 keresone / oil mix on tank b , and go back to tank a for 10 min before shuidown to burn off all the carbon ....... great vid man , well done
Hi, Have you ever gotten 3 lines and a smal v.......... like this. - - - v On this controller. Just lights up when i connect to battery and no buttons are responsive. Instead of P12 v it show the lines and v. So I can not use the heater at all. Suggestions? thanks so much.
Hi the heater i have is the upright all in one,its up and running but i, struggling to set the thermostat so it switches off at say 20c, help cheers.
Can only switch off after a set time, not available for temp switch off
@@2005mic ok so I need to set the clock and use the timer to turn it on and off at set times. Thank you have to set the clock first. Cheers for your help 👍.
You can only set 1 timer. Either on timer OR off timer. Not both
@@tarsneyisleestrelas4659 this model has no clock, just a timer. You can only set it to go off after a set amount of time, if its running. Or to come on if its not running, but not to come on, then off, only one at a time, I know!!
Hello , for this tipe of contoller i have an error E-2. COULD YOU TELL ME PLEASE HOW TO FIX IT? THANKS
E2 is a voltage error. the heater is not getting the correct volts. Volts could be to high or to low. Make sure it is 12v and your cables are large enough and short enough so there is no voltage drop. Check with multimeter when trying to start heater
My heater doesn’t display anything unless I hit the on button and then tries to start up heating can’t stop it.
My heater gives me an E08 code, it starts and then stops working with the code, how can i fix it?
Thats a fan code. Most likely the ecu which has the magnet sensor is not clipped in properly on both sides or the fan blade and needs to be adjusted closer - hope this helps
how i can reset the remote control pair for use in another identical display?
Just pair it on the new one
Setting button is not working on mine. What can i do?? It is totally without function.
Legend! Thank you so much for this man! So so helpful!
Hallo het rode stekkertje zichtbaar op mijn controller wat betekend dat?
I have the new controller too I hate it !
Thank you for your response. I am still having a problem with the heater running too hot and not responding to the set temperature. The controller is set at 20° and the room temperature is 24. This is been set for over three hours. I am roasting.
I have the same issue. Did you find a fix?
The heater will run at a lower temperature,on mountain mode. To do this press set,and ok at the same time for two seconds.the blue mountain will appear, on the screen, then press down button to lowest speed, fuel will last for three days on this setting.
Came here to say similar. I expected the temperature to be controlled automatically by the thermostat. If I want 19 deg c and ambient temp drops say at night the unit responds by firing up then goes back to idle once at 19deg c.
Hi I have the exact same controller but when I try to prime using up and down button screen goes blank and won come on....😢 any ideas ....help appreciated
this means your battery voltage is too low.
Why does my fan come on after evenhours after its all been turned of.
Hey i cant figure out how to set an automatic timer, is that even possible with these new controllers? I hwve exactly the same as you
It's explained in my other video. Only 1 timer function can be set
Hi,
Can the heating stop by itself ? No sound when I reach the correct temperature ?
It should regulate and keep at the set temp but won’t turn off when it reaches a certain temperature
Great advice you give .
My question is my heater turns it self on without touching any thing .I sometimes open my van and it's on draining my battery ? I have change control unit ?
If it doing weird things like that I would assume the controller is faulty
Cheers pal just got mine up and running in 10mins thanks to your tutorial 👍
Any thoughts on why my power on off switch won’t work. I have to keep insert /remove the battery to start /stop👎
I used to on off with the remote but since changing the battery in the remote the remote doesn’t seem to talk to the main controller
Don’t mean the battery I mean I have to insert or remove the fuse to start stop
See my other video. It explains how yo pair the remote
I have what i think is this new controller but my fan blade image does not rotate- but heater works well- have you come across this?
No i haven't but anything is possible with these heaters. As long as it works
My controller is a older one but I can't open menu
My diesel heater has a red controller that went out. Will the black one work on this diesel heater?
The screen and motherboard need to be matched si you may need to replace both
My heater gives me an E08 code, it starts and then stops working with the code, how can i fix it?
E08 code is lack of fuel. Make sure the pump is connected correctly and correct orientations. Pump is not self priming so fuel needs to be at pump before you start the priming
@@2005mic okay thank you mate, i'll check it and see thanks alot
One option for a controller is simply a rotary knob with an LED on top for errors. But I did not realize that the lowest it will go is 2 hz, or I would have gone for this controller. At the temperatures I am in, I only need 1 hz, so 2 hz is using twice the fuel I need to use.
do you know if there's a way to reprogram the heater down to 1 Hz?
Am so frustrated. Endless correspondence with China.
No help. Need to know how to pair (link) the 4 button remote to the "Voice Broadcast Controller".
Any help is appreciated.
Peter McElroy
Hold up arrow button to get FHA menu then press button on remote. - Is this what you are looking for?
@Jan Vyhňák HI Jan
Thank you for your reply.
Not the same controller.
Vevor sent me a video that finally solved the problem.
All the best. Peter
So, on the new one I cant adjust max/min fan speed, hertz pump etc????
No we can't
On my screen my fan doesn’t move like yours is spinning?
As long as the heater works and you can hear the fan running I would think that's OK. Probably just a slight abnormalitie with the controller
Im a German Chanal for Diesel Heater
Can you fine tune the fuel/ fan ratio on this controller?
No you cant
I noticed on this newer heater the fuel pump pulses fast no matter what temperature I set it. And consumes twice the amount of fuel my older heater does. ??
Mine slows and speeds up as required. May be faulty
Can you point me to, or do a video of how many controller iterations there are or have been and their respective timelines. If I ever want to upgrade I would like to know which may be compatible without rewiring the board, or how-to rewire the controller.
I'm working on it
Same control panel as I've just received, did you manage to pair the remote please as I'm having no joy what so ever 🤔
Found it in your other video 😂 thanks mate as all up and running now 👌
@captainsensible3570 no worries im pleased the video helped
@@captainsensible3570 what video 😅 same problem
How do you change from Celsius to Fahrenheit
No setting to change. Celsius only
Getting e2 error on a 12 v system . Won’t start up. It’s on 13 volts
Anyone have a fix for this?
I am having the same problem, did you figure out how to fix this issue?
@@joshcrawford4296 the initial 12 v source we used was inadequate( the wiring we connected to on the shortest route). We connected direct to the battery and put an isolator switch in between and it’s working well
Got mine working but is there a setting that is the best heat for fuel ratio?
Got a E8 code. Pump is pumping Diesel. I removed and checked the glow plug and it got very hot. Primed to a point that raw fuel is coming out of exhaust and still shutting down on E8. Screen on glow plug is clean...HELP PLEASE...
Check that the fan is spinning freely and magnets are in place and being picked up by the motherboard
E8 is also a fuel consistency issue if you have incremental issues with the pump not giving the acceptable flow rate over time air builds up in the lines and you have to do a mini prime to get it going up to temp again
I have primed my unit after not been using it during the summer ,plenty of air bubbles in the fuel line , it took a while to release them .
The unit is starting up , running & pumping out cold air & the exhaust putting out white smoke.
It will then put E8 on the display. Is it possible I’ve over primed it ?
Any tips to rectify this please
Great video , well presented.
Hi what is the symbol that is circled
In the picture on the video before you start
It's just an identification symbol. Doesn't really do or mean anything
hi have u had any problem with the controller going faulty and doing in the fuel pumps as i have had a near new pump go faulty so replaced with new one and it has stopped working as well so tryed new controller and pump and all seams ok . would love feed back on this problem and if i can replace controller with old stile unit .
Mother board and screen are matched so can't swap different with ones but most matched pairs should work with most heaters
@@2005mic thanks for replying, but do u think that a controle panel could make 2 pumps go faulty , i am baffled by this problem, i have had heaters with the older controlers and had no problems at all.
@tessandmax1 the quality of the new controllers I don't think is the best. Most work just fine but lot of people have issues and strange ones at that so I wouldn't be surprised if it caused your issues with pump
My heater does not stop when it gets to set temperature. For example:
1) Trailer is at 14C
2) I set temperature to 20C. Heater turns on and heats
3) Trailer reaches 20C. Heater goes to minimum setting but does NOT stop
4) Trailer temperature keeps rising to 25C+, very uncomfortable.
How can we have the heater turn off or run fan alone when reach desired temperature?
The heater won’t turn off until you turn it off. It is quite slow to react to temps so try setting to a lower temp
@@2005mic ah that's the issue then. Even when in the minimum setting, it's too much heat. I was hoping heater would auto turn on/off as needed
@@seb42 leave a window partially open
Hello, super vidéo
Avez-vous trouvé le code pour rentrer dans les paramètres ?
MERCI 🙏
How do I get my heater to stop at the set temperature? In manual or automatic the heater continues to pump fuel and heat. 6:10
They are slow to react. It auto mode it will probably go over temp but then slow down about 5 minutes later
Weird on that controller you hit the power button to mode through the codes and then you hit the okay but on mine you hit the okay to mode through the 1688 code and then you hit okay to activate the code there is no power button involved. Not sure if that may help on that situation or not
Is it possible to change it from °C to °F ?
Unfortunately not