This Smash Bros. character will make you hate yourself.

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  • Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
  • Coney reacts to ‪@Brawlternative‬'s video, "The Worst Matchup in Smash History was in Brawl(It's not Metaknight)", and shares his experience playing Brawl in other worse matchups that weren't mentioned in the video.
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  • @Brawlternative
    @Brawlternative Місяць тому +1031

    Thanks so much for watching! I won't mention you attempting the Dedede chaingrab because it was probably cut for a reason. Looking forward to seeing more!

    • @feurolant
      @feurolant Місяць тому +66

      Amazing videos on your part, it's so refreshing and nice to have actual Brawl videos!

    • @Masaru_kun
      @Masaru_kun Місяць тому +116

      Coney bashing you and your channel and then finding out you're a 3 year sub and in his chat, is the essence of Coney...

  • @igloo2326
    @igloo2326 Місяць тому +1045

    Can't believe the best Tekken player of our time became a Smash streamer, ICANT

    • @Kazaam1996
      @Kazaam1996 Місяць тому +77

      Lazy Mattman plays Smash now?

    • @frickroll
      @frickroll Місяць тому +52

      Hey that ain’t Dokibird

    • @tentalz1590
      @tentalz1590 Місяць тому +31

      Wdym, slime already played smash

    • @BudewFan_
      @BudewFan_ Місяць тому +18

      Since when did FD signifier start streaming smash?

    • @Jelliott_ssb
      @Jelliott_ssb Місяць тому +29

      Yeah, Brawlpr- wait…

  • @terrortaste6389
    @terrortaste6389 Місяць тому +621

    >Opens with trying to prove the subject of the stream/vid wrong
    >Embarasses self trying to prove them wrong
    This is why I love Coney

    • @luigiboyinblu
      @luigiboyinblu Місяць тому +41

      >”I’m gonna factcheck this myself, like a true American!
      >Completely humiliates himself in front of MILLIONS by failing a made up tech he was told by someone else was the best with Sheik and took it at face value without questioning or trying it himself before stream.
      Coney is one of the streamers of all time.

    • @someonestolemytoast2139
      @someonestolemytoast2139 Місяць тому +7

      he was 110% joking and baiting to get people interested but yeah we love coney

  • @Xanek
    @Xanek Місяць тому +446

    What a thumbnail.
    Mr. "Knows all about brawl"
    Has trouble finding how moves work in training mode.

  • @grunkleg.3110
    @grunkleg.3110 Місяць тому +84

    19:17 The best part of this sequence is that I think Shiek would've landed the Up Smash if not for Ganondorf bringing his legs in before D-Air

  • @ConnortheGonnor
    @ConnortheGonnor Місяць тому +127

    Wario isn't fat, just full of lots of helium, he wanted to be the new puff.

    • @christiankoll1528
      @christiankoll1528 Місяць тому +4

      I don't think helium is the source of the waft.. but it is definitely a gas

  • @castform7
    @castform7 Місяць тому +32

    9:24 The only 2008 game in which Kirby has a favorable matchup against Meta Knight is in Kirby Super Star Ultra.

  • @Kaiser25
    @Kaiser25 Місяць тому +78

    Coney failing to demonstrate other matchups is hillarious lol.On another note, Brawlternative's contente is amazing

  • @lorenzomcbo7229
    @lorenzomcbo7229 Місяць тому +54

    "Not in my region, get f*cked pink fresh" killed me 😂. So ness was inmune to dedede

    • @reperfan4
      @reperfan4 18 днів тому

      Kind of, actually. Not really "immune" but more like "heavily resistant."
      Dedede's big thing was his chain grabs but his chain grabs only worked on characters with certain properties. Some characters were too light or had too much gravity for it to work on (they'd splat on the ground rather than slide away thus preventing a regrab), and some characters had low enough friction they'd simply slide too far away. It all depended on the particular physics of the character being thrown. Some of those characters who slid too far away COULD be regrabbed, but Dedede would have to actually do a Dash Grab to catch them due to how far away they slid and this drastically cut down how many times Dedede could actually throw since now that they had to sprint forward between each grab they'd run out of stage after only a few grabs. So rather than an instant touch of death it was more like just a guaranteed 30%-40% and that was it. This was the category Ness and Lucas fell into, meaning they weren't as susceptible to Dedede's tricks.
      Mind it still wasn't great because them being dragged across the stage also meant that once the chain grab was over they were also guaranteed to be in an edgeguarding situation against a character pretty darn good at edgeguarding, but that's still better than it being a Touch of Death.

  • @toxic_shr00m
    @toxic_shr00m Місяць тому +236

    I knew it was only a matter of time for Coney to watch this channel

    • @simonbecker979
      @simonbecker979 Місяць тому +8

      Saw it coming a mile away

    • @nexonus9513
      @nexonus9513 Місяць тому +1

      Wait till you lean the guy who made the video is a coney sub for 3 years

    • @toxic_shr00m
      @toxic_shr00m Місяць тому

      @@nexonus9513 dude comments this 5 hours after I saw the video omegalul

    • @George_235
      @George_235 Місяць тому +1

      I know right

    • @Brawlternative
      @Brawlternative Місяць тому +4

      @@nexonus9513 42 months, so technically 3.5 :)

  • @Adr16n1122
    @Adr16n1122 Місяць тому +16

    Coney's genuine joy as he yells "Its a weird percentage thing! I love brawl." I felt that.

  • @MasterHeracross
    @MasterHeracross Місяць тому +69

    I literally just finished the video coney's reacting to. Talk about timing. Also I was surprised to learn that brawlalternative is a new channel making new brawl content in this day and age is an odd choice but a welcomed one.

    • @wumbojet
      @wumbojet Місяць тому +17

      Bro is like an archeologist exploring the pyramids of Giza lmao

  • @bottleneck-5548
    @bottleneck-5548 Місяць тому +13

    Coney confidently trying to prove someone wrong on the internet and then embarrassing himself on stream is the most Coney thing ever.

  • @gamer-qk8vd
    @gamer-qk8vd Місяць тому +10

    At SmashCon 2023 I watched a guy practice the ZSS down smash loops on a cpu while he was waiting for his pools match. Unbroken stare at the CRT for like 15 minutes

  • @ilostthecat6973
    @ilostthecat6973 Місяць тому +22

    Idk if this counts but when customs were legal villager vs little Mac was unwinnable for Mac. Villager just places the trip sapling in center stage and shoots you with Lloyd and sling shot and there’s just nothing Mac can do against it

  • @dumbchild1514
    @dumbchild1514 Місяць тому +58

    Do not be deceived UA-cam viewers, not only did he mention Pikachu fox in the original video, but the end of this video was a falsehood, he played 0 brawl after the screen faded to black, despite the implication. Coney is not to be trusted

  • @LunaticJ
    @LunaticJ Місяць тому +15

    It’s funny whenever Coney talks about Brawl, he tries so hard to convince chat Ness is a well designed character lol

  • @DrSwazz
    @DrSwazz Місяць тому +8

    21:40 Uh oh, back to the lab again

    • @cfino9
      @cfino9 Місяць тому

      lmao

  • @AlanMcClure-zu5cd
    @AlanMcClure-zu5cd Місяць тому +13

    Hey Coney! Judo here on my silly mobile screen name.
    Ftilt has percent windows starting at like 25 unstale. But it does true combo into usmash when started at the correct time.
    Also Ganon literally cant hit Sheik with her chain out under a platform. And needles are hard for him to deal with. Also ftilt to fair hits him at angles he can't recover from.
    Might not be the worst matchup but its really really bad.

    • @cfino9
      @cfino9 Місяць тому +1

      hi judo :3 miss ya bud

    • @maxpower7612
      @maxpower7612 Місяць тому +1

      If you buffer the ftilt, sheik can start it as low as 8% on fox (and falco), leading to touch of deaths off of a single falling aerial or an utilt at 0%. It's really broken once it connects, but at least it loses to shield...

  • @ItsMeChair1
    @ItsMeChair1 Місяць тому +28

    Coney has been dethroned for Brawl content

  • @John12346
    @John12346 Місяць тому +3

    So, there is a reason why Sheik Ganon was such a bad matchup, and it was because Ganon was literally unable to approach through Sheik's old SideB Chain while she was under a platform. The move was simply too large, and was also transcendent, and it prevented quite literally all of his frontal approaches from working, even if he came in from behind where Chain loses a bit of range. His only real way to fight against it was to come in from above with an aerial (usually Dair), but if there was a platform in the way there was quite literally no reliable way for him to set that up properly. With this in mind, it gave Sheik a very mindless wincon via timeout if she ever got the lead.

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl Місяць тому +12

    coney losing to the level 1 gannon really sells this video for me

  • @donkylefernandez4680
    @donkylefernandez4680 20 днів тому +1

    They over corrected Wario's air friction in smash 4 by making him a pseudo Jiggly Puff

  • @Delta21OnYT
    @Delta21OnYT Місяць тому +26

    Jokes on you Coney I already hate myself

  • @onlysmiles4949
    @onlysmiles4949 Місяць тому +1

    "It was banned out of pity" is incredible

  • @karlispovisils5297
    @karlispovisils5297 Місяць тому +18

    In a cheesy Russian accent:
    “You want to debunk Brawlternative? No, no, no. Brawlternative debunk you!”

  • @saltifyy
    @saltifyy Місяць тому +2

    When I watched the Ness Marth video all I could think of was how inevitable a Coney reaction was

  • @YouTube_itself
    @YouTube_itself Місяць тому +2

    I saw this video and thought, man coney has talked a lot about this machup. Glad to see you covering it

  • @AverageDoctor345
    @AverageDoctor345 Місяць тому +3

    Opening with Checker Knights startled me, I use that for my alarm lmao

  • @embert.k.2107
    @embert.k.2107 Місяць тому +3

    I actually got hit by that Sheik F-Tilt infinite in bracket and I had no idea how to deal with it

  • @calapai7
    @calapai7 Місяць тому +1

    Honestly someone could make a cool 10-15 minute video about Sonix % Mario 64 Speedruns. You explain what a timeout is, why Sonic and Sonix do it, but also Gluto and Dabuz, introduce Coney and document the attempts until he finally achieved it. I was there.

  • @kirbleramiku
    @kirbleramiku Місяць тому +3

    new coney video comes out while im watching another coney video. life is good.

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 Місяць тому +5

    I love smash history so much for no reason

  • @drstclair
    @drstclair Місяць тому

    I had this playing while playing while laying in bed. I fell asleep and Coney was in my dream. While on a field trip in the dream, i told him that Brawlternativ put out a new video about the 60:40 ditto. He acted like he didnt hear me, and proceeded to work on the video as if he just saw the video in his subscriptions. I proceeded to look up a video I had seen with the worst fighting game matchups overall I had seen. The video was from Hold Back to Block, and I was thinking of Iori vs Chin.
    What an odd thing to dream, but I would love videos about both videos!

  • @joelnub9547
    @joelnub9547 16 днів тому

    Snakes brawl down throw is just like it is in ult where he gently lays you down.... i always thought that throw was really funny cause if you dont do the pummel its like hes getting ready to tuck you into bed

  • @dangangalaxy9759
    @dangangalaxy9759 Місяць тому +1

    Man I forgot Brawl had the best music and sound design in the series

  • @1000g2g3g4g800999
    @1000g2g3g4g800999 24 дні тому

    I thought Wario's air friction was deliberate, since he functionally has instant midair horizontal acceleration.

  • @Disisdabeast
    @Disisdabeast Місяць тому +1

    I WAS WAITING FOR CONEY TO REACT TO THIS VIDEO LETS GOOOOOO

  • @trueblueryu5713
    @trueblueryu5713 Місяць тому +1

    Training specifically in Brawl for Supernova, AKA Super Smash con. I’ll also enter 64, since those 2 had the lowest turnout at last year’s smash con, and I enjoyed the games I played there quite a lot last year.

    • @cfino9
      @cfino9 Місяць тому +2

      good luck, see you there :)

  • @saxeladude
    @saxeladude 13 днів тому

    less than a minute in just goes to show how much good editing can bring in an audience.

  • @spaceace9103
    @spaceace9103 Місяць тому

    It was so cool hearing some Brawl tech I heard from oldman Coney being mentioned on Brawlternative.

  • @matthewbartlett3442
    @matthewbartlett3442 Місяць тому +2

    21:00 YOU WERE CHOSEN ONE
    IT WAS SAID THAT YOU’D BE THE ONE TO DESTROY THE SITH NOT JOIN THEM

  • @calic737
    @calic737 Місяць тому +1

    I don't think we talked about buffer grabs. Pikachu could also chain grab other characters a lot more than you would at first think.

  • @sirhawkjames
    @sirhawkjames Місяць тому

    that ending ICANT

  • @SSSoftboiSupreme
    @SSSoftboiSupreme День тому

    it's a good thing lucas' family isn't around to see him jobbing to the cast of brawl like that

  • @babsbabsbabsbabs
    @babsbabsbabsbabs Місяць тому +2

    Played an Ultimate Local for the first time couple years ago, got all the way to semi-finals with Lucas only losing once. Lost 2-0 to a Marth. That generational hate goes far.

  • @YargyTheLandPirate
    @YargyTheLandPirate Місяць тому

    Love that coney has a channel all for himself to react to

  • @LuigiLitoLL
    @LuigiLitoLL Місяць тому +1

    4:50 hehe, yeah...*sobs internally*

  • @tootsie_
    @tootsie_ Місяць тому

    This is like your dad sharing his "back in my day" stories.

  • @randommaster06
    @randommaster06 Місяць тому

    Props to Coney for actually testing the Brawl moves.

  • @1000g2g3g4g800999
    @1000g2g3g4g800999 24 дні тому

    There were definitely ways to do the Marth v PSI kid infinite without moving across the stage.

  • @felipegodoy5342
    @felipegodoy5342 Місяць тому

    I've never seen coney happier talking about brawl lmao

  • @leafofufo3264
    @leafofufo3264 Місяць тому

    I saw this video on release, and instantly knew you were making a video

  • @jackconrad7851
    @jackconrad7851 Місяць тому

    16:57 this chatter brings up a good question...

  • @virgilgc
    @virgilgc Місяць тому

    The ending was literally, bar by bar, "respect your elders" 2

  • @itsneek1461
    @itsneek1461 Місяць тому

    was watching this guy yesterday and praying coney saw him lmao

  • @ngcf4238
    @ngcf4238 Місяць тому

    Coney & Smash bros name a more iconic duo

  • @Losttael
    @Losttael Місяць тому +1

    "Im not teaming with a Wolf, for money"
    😂😂

  • @kholdseid6614
    @kholdseid6614 Місяць тому

    When I saw this video I was hoping Coney would watch it

  • @kingkunikida1113
    @kingkunikida1113 Місяць тому

    I was literally praying that coney would react to this, my day has been made better.

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 Місяць тому +1

    9:33 ngl that is gorgeous

  • @ruben_re9180
    @ruben_re9180 Місяць тому

    Editors did indeed, not skip that.

  • @Goofzillers
    @Goofzillers Місяць тому

    I thought on FD specifically, Sheik could just use her side b and Ganon had no way to get around it.

  • @Hoodiebud
    @Hoodiebud Місяць тому

    the thumbnail made me temporarily think the title said "This Smash Bros. character will make you kill yourself." which doesn't change much.

  • @Taenarius
    @Taenarius Місяць тому

    Oh hey, I saw someone in the comments of that video saying that Coney should watch this, and now here it is, Coney watching it

  • @jayde4872
    @jayde4872 Місяць тому +1

    5:55 he did snap your neck. I definitely remember because I would grab a lot as Snake because of it.

  • @DoMorrMusic
    @DoMorrMusic Місяць тому

    oh yeah I remember tweeting this at Coney

  • @gamerfreakinfoXD
    @gamerfreakinfoXD Місяць тому

    I love coney because deep down I just feel like he wanted to find a way to play brawl on stream

  • @whitekj03
    @whitekj03 Місяць тому

    I'm 30 and remember being the youngest at Brawl tournaments back in '09 lol I'm here because I remember Coney all the way back from AllisBrawl. Brawl brings back the memories for sure 😢

    • @cfino9
      @cfino9 Місяць тому

      come back to brawl :D

  • @lancelee338
    @lancelee338 Місяць тому

    I was so surprised Coney admitted defeat

  • @Nintendoman1998
    @Nintendoman1998 Місяць тому

    I thought i saw that Brawl Icies vs Ganondorf was a 100-0 matchup somewhere

  • @RufioTheThird
    @RufioTheThird Місяць тому +4

    I CALLED IT

  • @drstclair
    @drstclair Місяць тому

    I love Coney Brawl videos.

  • @illford6921
    @illford6921 Місяць тому +1

    so for Coney and anyone else, Air Friction is just ground friction but for the air so it's the parameter that controls how long it takes to come to 0 horizontal velocity in the air. Air Mobility/Acceleration describes how much input affects your velocity in the air

  • @Hoenn101
    @Hoenn101 Місяць тому

    I think it’s actually probably a brawl ice climber matchup

  • @legendarysoil1064
    @legendarysoil1064 Місяць тому

    I saw the thumbnail and thought it would be a lazy rehashing of good content, turns out it was just good content.

  • @FireDevBoy
    @FireDevBoy Місяць тому

    Coney was Dedede Jesus

  • @spookyghost9653
    @spookyghost9653 Місяць тому +1

    Yooo coney reacting to brawlternative

  • @splish8869
    @splish8869 Місяць тому

    I actually am looking for more brawl content featuring champs like my king brawlpro

  • @bucketfullabiscuits7865
    @bucketfullabiscuits7865 Місяць тому

    This brawl channel is so fucking cool I love it

  • @dragocrafterr8286
    @dragocrafterr8286 Місяць тому

    someone referencing mikeneko 9:55 in a coney video is wild

  • @karatehottie9585
    @karatehottie9585 27 днів тому

    Just crazy I saw brawls 2014 list and it’s full of predators

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 Місяць тому +1

    Didn't know melee ganon was mid tier, feels weird for him to be any more than ass

  • @Bloodyknite
    @Bloodyknite Місяць тому

    >he doesn’t know how bad it is for ganon
    KEK

  • @dasnab2231
    @dasnab2231 Місяць тому +1

    Coney would get air released hahaha I spit my beer out

  • @Magic_Ice
    @Magic_Ice Місяць тому

    I first watched this video when it was less than a thousand views and the first few comments were all saying they wanted coney to see it.

  • @Crazy56U
    @Crazy56U Місяць тому

    We can finally put Grandpa in the home, let’s go.

  • @DMMegsie
    @DMMegsie Місяць тому +1

    "This guy is wrong!" Proceeds to debunk their own personal theories.. proving the original to be more true.. "Editor!"

  • @Hoshiguru
    @Hoshiguru Місяць тому

    Whats the name of the first ost?

  • @Joepuh
    @Joepuh Місяць тому

    the worst brawl mu is ganon ice climbers because ganon has literally 0 options to deal with desync blizzard wall

  • @AutisticJesusGaming
    @AutisticJesusGaming Місяць тому +2

    I LOTERALLY WAS JUST HOPINg! You would cover this guy he’s so cool!

  • @wealthforthecommoners3146
    @wealthforthecommoners3146 Місяць тому

    Why is there literally no footage online of Coney playing league of legends

  • @DLAsmash
    @DLAsmash Місяць тому

    Ganon vs ICs is the worst MU in Brawl and it wasn't close. Then MK then Sheik.
    DDD is absolutely -4. But if he had a normal spot dodge then literally only -2
    Love DLA

  • @ngcf4238
    @ngcf4238 Місяць тому

    Yooo I just saw one of brawlternative's videos the other day, yeah he's blowing up

  • @Lando-My-Love
    @Lando-My-Love Місяць тому

    How fitting that an ex Brawl Pro now stands to succeed BrawlPro

  • @DealbreakrJones
    @DealbreakrJones Місяць тому

    2:40 why did that guy sound like a Baldi's character

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 Місяць тому +1

    Poor wario

  • @dominidurbano8896
    @dominidurbano8896 Місяць тому

    Brawl has the best theme

  • @Fedivdicher
    @Fedivdicher Місяць тому

    Ganon in melee is a fraudulent character, literally coasting off of bizzaroflame highlights from a decade ago and random falcon secondaries, DK and link are arguably better characters at this point, ganon is essentially the best of the truly unviable characters, and with such a small cast is a big step down from his previous title of being the worst of the sorta viables

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 Місяць тому +2

    God brawl is so fucky, kinda wanna play it now

    • @cfino9
      @cfino9 Місяць тому +1

      do it! lots of fun