Thank you so much for half a million subscribers. I hope this video strikes a balance between helpful and entertaining. I encourage everyone with the faintest interest in animation to try out this process, it's really fun and unique. It's okay to steal my style outright, imitation is flattery and the greatest jumping off point for finding your own style. Links in the description to everything you'll need! Much love
I thought the glitches were on purpose lol they really do add too it somehow. Kinda makes everything feel off and even more like an awkward fever dream.
Same here, I really like it too because it just really fits with the old vhs type of animation style with weird glitches as the tape corrodes and ages.
@@Joel-Haver Is it possible to use this on a live facecam given the right circumstances? I always wanted to try Vtubing but making the avatar look stupid and unrefined unlike the 3d anime models everyone uses. Love the vids btw.
@@Joel-Haver I think u know that u have something really special here going on man. I’m sick of posers and fame-chasers on these platforms, ur doing this through genuine soul and effort. U will go far 😁
@@baconknightproductions8297 the best thing i can think of for the long way is the incredible bonus features on richard linklaters movie "walking life". the movie itself is awesome so maybe watch it first and then to see some truly amazing stuff with it watch "a scanner darkly". its keanu reeves, woody harrelson, robert downey jr and wynona ryder. so yeah... again, the movie itself is just next level. its richard linklater again and it has some great special features but im 99% sure it was invented by the richard and the waking life crew. theyre both great anyway. and with a scanner darkly sometimes i lose the fact its animated. its really neat what they do.
It's a gamble. You either have your own style and make money from it. Or someone steals your aesthetics and makes something better than you. Obviously, it's hard to make something better than this dude's trilogy. But I'm speaking general terms. Why secret cooking recipes exist.
Okay, that last part about how technology makes art accessible to all of us (essentially), like a cheat code… That sh*t hit deep man. I have a new respect for you. Thanks for all of your content and thanks for the video. So awesome.
@Yezi996Yes Meh, it’s an old video. Probably doesn’t have notifications on for it or something. I’m okay with it. Maybe he doesn’t agree with my take too? Who knows… A heart react is just some binary code anyways. I just hope he received the message and I am just happy to support him.
"We don't make mistakes, just happy little accidents." - Bob Ross It's nice when people don't gatekeep and want others to join in on their hobby/profession .
It's fantastic because he does the tutorial on the video he's discussing the tutorial in. Even in what should be simple information videos, Joel still blows us away!
Serious response to a joke comment: he probably used stock video that was spliced together in Premier before the initial export. In case anyone is actually curious how it was done.
He just changed my entire perspective on digital art. Even though I tried not to, until now I think I somewhat looked down on digital drawings in particular, simply because the artists don't have to deal with a lot of the hassel involved in physical drawing or painting. Like being able to alter colors with one click or applying an effect instead of having to redo the whole thing if you want to change something. But actually, I've always believed that there are way more important aspects to art than the technical skills, and also that it's a shame how many people can't express themselves creatively because they lack any such technical skills. Now we finally have new forms of art that make that hurdle much easier to overcome. We are getting closer to the point where everyone can put art out there without having to spend years practicing, and that's a good thing. Creative vision and inspiration and things like that are becoming more important than technical ability, and imo that's how it should be.
Wtf not only does Joel have some of the best videos in existence, this has got to be one of, if not the, best tutorial ever. It’s fun, educational and creative af.
cheat-code rotoscoping! What a goddamn brilliant concept. Art should absolutely be accessible to everyone. Shoot man, this is like the best kind of youtube. mad respect.
I wonder if he has a similar sentiment to how ai is nowadays where you dont even need to do anything yourself whatsoever. Is that still a cheat code or has it crossed the line
Never have a I been so interested in a man talking about how he animates for 7 minutes, his genuine awkward but real voice really draws my attention and makes me smile, every youtuber knows what its like to have a "recording voice" but this guy just doesn't care, he just speaks in his most genuine tone, and I whole-heartedly respect that.
"Art should be in the hands of everyone, and we shouldn't have to break our backs and our wallets and waste our lifes to make it." I love that statement.
@@Jukestar Dude, I know what you mean. From distractions; to being lazy, unmotivated, depressed, or just not enough damn time to sit down and write something; there are so many things stoping people from getting their creativity out there! A computer brain interface is kinda scary, but if it let me think, build, and edit with my brain. I wouldn’t care if it sucked the soul right out of me lol.
@@Jukestar I'd get a DAW, I think Ableton has a free version. It's overwhelming at first, but once you understand what does what you can put some brain into actual sounds.
I've drawn and sometimes animated digitally with a mouse my entire life and only as I got older did I realize that everyone thinks that's weird. If that's all you use you get used to it, it can be as easy as drawing by hand, sometimes to me it feels easier. But of course you can never get as much detail as you could if you were using like a tablet or something, like I don't know if there's a pressure sensitive drawing mouse or something... Actually I'm gonna look that up.
@@Squishito A pressure sensitive mouse sounds like something that should exist but I'm not sure it does. Drawing with a mouse hurts my brain because I'm left handed for writing/drawing, but right handed for mousing. So drawing with a mouse feels like I'm using the wrong hand to draw, even though it feels way worse to mouse draw with my left.
Some people seriously think that music should be free since "it is a hobby, not a job" but do they seriously think many people would want to make music then, let alone have the financial capacity to?
@@DenSvartaStjarnan He's talking about making creativity tools accessible to *creators* and the fact that everyone can be creative. It's the *consumers'* responsibility to compensate the creators of art and music they enjoy.
@@DenSvartaStjarnan Some people do think that. And they are absolutely asshats. But more in line with Joels theorem for art. Doesn't music exist to be heard? And if you are someone who dreams of creating music, in some form, by some method. Then shouldn't the barrier to entry be as low as we can make it? The argument is hardly that art should be devalued to the point it should be free, but more that the world should be a place full of art. And if you are someone who wants to create art (for profit, or pleasure, or acclaim, etc) then you should be able to do so.
i think rotoscope animation is really such an underrated style. depending on the context its used in it can either emphasize in the moment awkwardness like joel said, or complex movement like this one music video i saw. plus if you do it by hand it can probably teach you a few things about animating movement on your own
this is why I prefer Rotoscoping. The only limitation is how much work you’re willing to put into the product. Whereas with CGI and Mocap you absolutely are limited by the computers abilities.
"Anytime technology makes art easier to learn, more accessible, more efficient, we should applaud it. Art should be in the hands of everyone, and we shouldn't have to break our backs, our wallets, and waste our lives to make it." - Joel, 5:33
When he showed that he highlighted the still frame I really thought that he was going to do that for every single frame. Which is what does happen. Just the program does it for him. I think that encapsulates the point he was talking about because fuuuuuuuck doing that lol
@@ohnoitsu1 I mean, folks used to do that (although to be fair, they had teams of animators to do it). It was called rotoscoping. The really funny thing is, one of the big uses was as a cost-savings measure to get decent animation for really complicated motion. Apparently it saved so much time (and therefore production costs) in animation for complicated stuff that the savings outweighed the cost of hiring some no-name actors and filming them dancing or fighting or whatever. It also was used sometimes for stylistic effect, like the music video for "Take on Me".
"Art should be in the hands of everyone, you know, we shouldn't have to break our backs and our wallets and waste our lives to make it." Fuckin quote of the year right there
ALSO it allows talented artists to make MORE art because it takes them less time to complete each project. Their time is spent on artistic decisions rather than labour.
@@LukeSparrow221 "The Joel Haver style of animation consists of a rotoscoped work employing slow burn comedy and situational awkwardness resulting from its semi improvisational format." -my drunk ass academia self
5:55 - "Thank you, for making it." This is one of the best reasons I can find for learning coding: Want to change the world? You can. One line at a time. ♥
I feel like the method can be 'copied' which Joel really seems to encourage, without his _style_ of animation being copied, which no one could do as well anyway :)
Well, it's called rotoscoping. It's neat and it's cool he's kind of revived it, but it has a history that reaches back. One of my favorite uses of it was in Adult Swim's *Dream Corp LLC*
Just a tip for EbSynth: When the output starts to break up, you don't have to rotoscope additional frames from scratch. Rather, go to the processed folder and look for a frame that's just slightly off, take it to Photoshop and fix it. Do a few frames like this, throw them back into the keyframes folder and reprocess. Rinse and repeat.
The world will remember you for this selfless gesture. Sharing information and encouraging others to utilize these tools and your process to foster their own creativity. 👍
I was actually wondering how he made these videos for weeks. It's a nice and simple way to make animations. Always wanted to make one, but I don't have much skill so this is great.
This is Joel Haver. He believes that art does not belong to one person, and should be shared with everyone, so he shares his entire art style rather than hoard it for himself. Be more like Joel Haver.
I disagree. What he did was very selfless and kind, but I believe if someone discovers, practices and hones their own art style, they shouldn't feel obligated to reveal to the world exactly how to replicate it. A style is what makes an artist unique, so I can completely understand those who are opposed to sharing their process.
Holy shit that would be amazing. One of my favorite songs of all time, grew up listening to it in my dad's car. The music video would be perfect for this.
Frick, man. Good at presenting, good at editing. Is there anything Joel can't do?? (this is actually a way more straightforward process than I was expecting, it seems super accessible). "I think the more creative tools people have, the better." What. A. Dude.
It's not a terribly difficult process, just time consuming and rather repetitive. I use EbSynth to animate fight and skateboard clips and there's really not much more to it than drawing your keyframes and letting EBSynth fill in the gaps.
Once one of his videos blew up his whole channel did because his content truly is good, it just didn't have an audience before. Its rare to find someone like that. Also
Jesus Christ the effort that went into this video... Explaining the process whilst putting in the very techniques into the video, keeping the character going, the explanation going, while also finding a way to as an editor and creator have fun with it. Letting the video become somewhat meta. It's fun to see and kinda rubs up against humor for me. It can really give a glimpse into the mind of the creator to see the levels of effort behind a given project, and what little tidbits get hidden in-between the metaphorical lines. This video is weirdly genius even for being a behind the scenes kind of video. Like how the animated person is doing the work over a typically real person. That's just... Funny to me on a level I can't quite put into words.
Me: "Wow, he's so good at creating awkward moments" Joel: "Actually they were real, I didn't write anything down so we genuinely didn't know what to say" Ahahah
Yeah, it's just enough that you can tell it's not meant to be happening, but not so much that it's over the top and annoying. There's a lot of things like that in art.
I just found your channel and I love it! And Wow! Such a complex proccess to make these videos. I will assure to hit the like button on each video I see
Not only did you create a brand new style of indie rotoscoping but you shared the entire process and delivered it in a gag-style like always too. Love everything about this. Most wholesome comedian on the platform.
As someone who created his first animation in Macromedia Flash using Poser I really appreciate this look behind the curtain. Always incredible to see the effort that is required for even a 10 second clip. Keep up your great work, I really like it!
Joel, the fact that you go through THIS much effort to make short vids to entertain us makes me appreciate you so much more than I already thought I could. Then, to top it all off, this special method that made you famous you, instead of gate keeping it, decide to share it with the rest of us. If anyone on this platform deserved the fame and admiration it would most certainly be you. Thank you for all you do!
"Any time technology makes art easier to learn, more accessible, more efficient, we should applaud it." I love that line. You're awesome for doing this!
Dude this is pretty rare, for a creator to be praised for a unique style and everyone be asking how do you do it and then just come right out and explain exactly how, give away all the "secret sauce," and literally tell people it's okay to copy exactly their style. It's just so cool and it shows you're not insecure in your own ability to continue to innovate, evolve, and grow, and that empowering others is more important to you than trying to hold onto some gold nugget of the artistic realm that you now have ownership over. Super dope dude.
Although I totally agree, it still has some insignificant negative impact on his work. Take some of the secret fastfood recipes. People would be able to copy and recreate them, which in itself doesn't really have any impact on the flavour of these secret recipes, in fact, it's the opposite. Giving people the opportunity to improve, upgrade, alter art styles through inspiration such as this channel, will make the "flavour" significantly better as we will be getting more "recipes" of such type, where some may be potentially far more "tasty". But, the insignificant negative impact is that it as a result makes his work less unique. Now, in my opinion, I like when the stuff I watch is unique. I enjoy a wide disparity between the kinds of content that gets recommended to me. Unfortunately, this is difficult to do when so many people spam the same things. I made the mistake with reddit-reading videos. I fixed my recommended now, but for a few weeks it was pretty annoying. The risk of poor-quality content becomes greater the more people try it, which as a result makes it harder to find the best of the best creators out there. edit: I totally support what he did, but this is rather my individualistic preference. I get that some people may like seeing more content like his, but I personally prefer my content "concentrated" rather than "watered-down".
@@TechSupportDave I agree. However, you miss the point in what will *ALWAYS* make Joel's animations superior to anything that may come out similar to it: him, Joel. He has such a unique way in how he carries himself and talks that can never be imitated or copied. I watch his animations not just for the cool style of the animations, but for the characters he creates.
@@TechSupportDave you like your content not watered down and concentrated so that a variety of single creator's have different styles. But by doing that your missing out ALOT of fun shit people make that is similar dude. The only insignificant impact that has happened is that you limit yourself to feeding through a straw While as everyone else has their helpings by the spoon full. Because You won't broaden out what you watch. You've restricted yourself into a corner. Joel on the other hand is the opposite. By revealing his secrets he's shown that he's not afraid of what other people make. He's strongly confident that his content alone is more then just an arstyle. By sharing his secrets he improves and encourages other UA-camrs to be creative and to give them the spark so that their content might be able to be "concentrated" Aswell It sure as shit is better then hoarding his techniques so no one learns how to improve
@@pingaspearce9403 [TL;DR at the bottom] I disagree with this one part. I do not watch youtube enough to feel the necessity to NOT feed myself through a straw (Though I wouldn't call it that). Therefore, I prefer to watch only the things that I love the most. My youtube experience would become significantly worse if I were to suddenly start watching everything that gets recommended to me. For one, it would mess up my recommended as I previously mentioned. Two, I'd be wasting a lot of time on content that I do not enjoy, or do not enjoy as much. This is something that I did when I was younger. I did not enjoy the amount of videos I'd abandon half-way. It was not only unhealthy watching things I don't enjoy, but it was also unhealthy how much time I actually spent on youtube. Just to clarify, it's not that i'm not broadening my horizons. I have simply stopped letting myself get clickbaited. This means, 99% of the time I stay watching content that I enjoy the most. That 1% being that risk of wasted time. That's a balance that I'm fine with, as it means that for every 100 videos watched, there's one video that I watch that I don't know I'll like. And, that 1 video IS usually a video that I'll like. Why? Because it's usually a video that truly grabs my interest and perfectly appeals to my preferences. In fact, these proportions are perfect in my case, because there's also a 1% chance that I'll stop watching a type of content or creator. So the things I watch are perpetually changing. I probably wouldn't even call it a "Straw", but rather just a methodical approach that completely satisfies me. There will always be amazing content creators that I won't know about. Why would I bother going out of my way to find them all when it's impossible in the first place? Why would I even want more if I'm already watching content that I wholly enjoy? I quite frankly don't see the point if I don't have the capacity to regularly watch them all in the first place. This isn't pokemon. Maybe to you it is if you spend your entire days on youtube, but other people are often different. I can't spend my days searching through youtube for new things, and I don't know why I'd want to if I'm enjoying watching the things i'm enjoying. TL;DR: I'm not feeding myself through a straw and who are you to tell me how I should use youtube? I'm already watching content that's as enjoyable as it can get for me, if you have a problem with that then you're simply an asshole. --------------------------------------------------------------- Won't be bothering to reply any further as I'm anticipating people to purposefully misunderstand me, as you already partially did but there's no point pointing it out now.
Thank you so much for half a million subscribers. I hope this video strikes a balance between helpful and entertaining. I encourage everyone with the faintest interest in animation to try out this process, it's really fun and unique. It's okay to steal my style outright, imitation is flattery and the greatest jumping off point for finding your own style. Links in the description to everything you'll need! Much love
I pray Who Sees This Will Be Successful In Life , God Has Plan For Anything Trust The Process Never Give Up God Bless Everyone ❤️ 🙏
THANK YOU!!
I love you joel
Poggers Joel. This is super neat thank for sharing
You absolutely deserve it, I've gone back and watched so many of your old videos and they are all top tier.
animation career here I come!
Goodluck!
H
Oh fuck Boris is gonna animate another video!
Literally all channels from across the internet enjoys this guy. Small world man. Also howdy Boris.
Opa!
So this means that he explicitly outlined the nipples on the villain in the Scooby-Doo bit. lmao
Ikr lol
I was 70th like and I’d like to apologize for that lmao
He also does some fantastic croch work!
incredible
Incredible indeed, Berd. Incredible indeed
Berd get outta here >:[
Who Let The Berd Fly In, Tf
Thank you for existing berd
@@vaderanomaly1573 ;c
Not only does he have a good sense of humor and is a talented creator, but he's also a genuinely awesome dude. Thanks for the tutorial.
I thought the glitches were on purpose lol they really do add too it somehow. Kinda makes everything feel off and even more like an awkward fever dream.
They’re definitely kept on purpose! I always make sure to keep it just glitchy enough!
Same here, I really like it too because it just really fits with the old vhs type of animation style with weird glitches as the tape corrodes and ages.
@@Joel-Haver The glitches and the VHS feeling are some of the things that make your videos great, good job!
@@Joel-Haver Is it possible to use this on a live facecam given the right circumstances? I always wanted to try Vtubing but making the avatar look stupid and unrefined unlike the 3d anime models everyone uses. Love the vids btw.
@@Joel-Haver I think u know that u have something really special here going on man. I’m sick of posers and fame-chasers on these platforms, ur doing this through genuine soul and effort. U will go far 😁
And thus begins the era of EBSYNTH based animation.
Fuck yeah, bring it on.
I haven't gotten into animation yet, but if I do I'll definitely have to look into rotoscoping.
@@baconknightproductions8297 the best thing i can think of for the long way is the incredible bonus features on richard linklaters movie "walking life". the movie itself is awesome so maybe watch it first and then to see some truly amazing stuff with it watch "a scanner darkly". its keanu reeves, woody harrelson, robert downey jr and wynona ryder. so yeah... again, the movie itself is just next level.
its richard linklater again and it has some great special features but im 99% sure it was invented by the richard and the waking life crew. theyre both great anyway. and with a scanner darkly sometimes i lose the fact its animated. its really neat what they do.
ikr, im ready
someone do steam hams
Fair play for putting your method out there. Lots of people wouldn't have.
It's a gamble. You either have your own style and make money from it. Or someone steals your aesthetics and makes something better than you.
Obviously, it's hard to make something better than this dude's trilogy. But I'm speaking general terms. Why secret cooking recipes exist.
In this case I feel like it's safe from being stolen willy nilly cause it takes so much time and effort.
Joel's goal is to encourage people to just create, and make stuff, so he's not worried about revealing "secrets"
True and it could just further boost him cuz he’s the OG and word will get around
That's why Joel is king. He's just too humble, lovable, and hilarious.
Okay, that last part about how technology makes art accessible to all of us (essentially), like a cheat code… That sh*t hit deep man. I have a new respect for you. Thanks for all of your content and thanks for the video. So awesome.
How are you not hearted
@@Irishbal.l ʅ（◞‿◟）ʃ …I dunno, It’s cool.
@Yezi996Yes Meh, it’s an old video. Probably doesn’t have notifications on for it or something. I’m okay with it. Maybe he doesn’t agree with my take too? Who knows… A heart react is just some binary code anyways. I just hope he received the message and I am just happy to support him.
All jokes aside, Joel's point about art being accessible and fun is such an important lesson for creative-types.
definitely, i really loved what he had to say at the end
"We don't make mistakes, just happy little accidents." - Bob Ross
It's nice when people don't gatekeep and want others to join in on their hobby/profession .
Absolutely!
It’s the love of expression and compassion for his neighbor.
Like the guy who owns vanta black and keeps it from the public
This is some meta behind-the-scenes content
I like how he went the extra mile to keep his style of humor by including some more elaborate changes in his presentation.
I just found your hot wheel videos earlier today
ua-cam.com/video/MWaqa44GiGs/v-deo.html
This is the best UA-cam tutorial on earth.
Animators supporting animators. Awesome. :)
Glad to see you here! :)
Possibly beyond!
It's fantastic because he does the tutorial on the video he's discussing the tutorial in. Even in what should be simple information videos, Joel still blows us away!
Yes
i'm glad Joel FINALLY got to appear on Smiling Friends and show off his iconic ebsynth artstyle to a wider tv audience
God I KNEW I recognized that somewhere
He deserved it really, his animation is so iconic
REALLL jsshsjhs
was watching the episode and liked it, couple minutes later i got on youtube and it recommend me his channel
"I oughta knock your block off you LITTLE FREAK"
The fact that you animated the animation process really shows how much care you put into your channel.
Ikr :')
It shows how easy it is..
@@kurtdewittphoto It shows how dedicated he is.
I think a number of folks would skip it, too, if it wasn't animated.
@@kurtdewittphoto Im wondering where we can find your animations
Its crazy that he burned an actual village for the plot point in his last RPG video
Holly shit the burned village was AI assisted rotoscoped! the absolute madman!
how else will he be able to trace and draw the burning flames without doing so, huh?
Serious response to a joke comment: he probably used stock video that was spliced together in Premier before the initial export. In case anyone is actually curious how it was done.
@@totally_not_a_bot Joke comment to a serious response: dude it wasnt a joke. People died that day. Have some respect!
@@stilinskiins150 joke response to a joke comment: they deserve it for letting Marshall run wild.
Such a unique animation style!
tony lazzuto
They kinda did that in the animated lord of the Rings movie, those Videos feeled pretty similar animation wise, its a cool style
@@superbdolphin4700 That"s what I thought as well
Yo SINF bro ur video are cool please notice me senpai
It's called rotoscoping I think. Pretty cool.
man thats a lot of work, well done sir!
i found a rare sight of a youtuber with million(s) of subs without replies
Yep
@aprilsmith6558 Yep
@@BamberRagebecause the video is over 2 years old and this comment is just 2 weeks ago so it got left in the ruins of comment section
5:22 Completely agree with this take on art and new technology.
He just changed my entire perspective on digital art.
Even though I tried not to, until now I think I somewhat looked down on digital drawings in particular, simply because the artists don't have to deal with a lot of the hassel involved in physical drawing or painting. Like being able to alter colors with one click or applying an effect instead of having to redo the whole thing if you want to change something.
But actually, I've always believed that there are way more important aspects to art than the technical skills, and also that it's a shame how many people can't express themselves creatively because they lack any such technical skills.
Now we finally have new forms of art that make that hurdle much easier to overcome. We are getting closer to the point where everyone can put art out there without having to spend years practicing, and that's a good thing. Creative vision and inspiration and things like that are becoming more important than technical ability, and imo that's how it should be.
wow, he gave himself a cartoon mustache, then went back and gave his real self a real mustache, that's dedication
Very cool of you for sharing, Joel
thank you james lee, very cool 😎
now its your turn James.
Huzzah!
@@naorovadia1161 James doesn't animate anything. He's just built different
Michael, from the office!
To be honest i never realized how much work it was to make these videos, i thought it was just a camera effect but this is by hand!? incredible.
So... Ebsynth automatically rotoscopes a whole shot using some keyframes as reference? That's... fucking amazing.
Yes! It's such an incredible tool!
That's crazy...
Crazy. Time to make rotoscope anime
My thoughts exactly, excellent software
I don't even know what that means but I'll pretend like I do.
"Art should be in the hands of everyone" Give this man his nobel prize
ART... AWAITS.... HUZZAHHHHH!
I'll give an applous
I’d splash that phrase onto 3/4 of art academy students
690th like noice
Is joel the so-called banksy?!?!
And now it’s in smiling friends. Wow.
So glad. I love this channel.
What’s that
Well in the case of Smiling friends, that's literally Joel. It's not just the style, he's just in the show lol
@@jamessiebold5899an adult swim show! its really good, most episodes sound unscripted and natural its great
He animated himself animating himself, the madman.
yeah. That's the part that got me.. i was like thinking this is some inception type ish. haha love it.
Complete Mad lad
This is some of my favorite stuff i've seen on YT in years.
Never doubted that Drewski is a man of culture
drewski!
Animated Tarkov vids?
Never knew drewski was a fan of this guy. Good to see you here man.
My man having taste
A JuJu, a Blue Blue Blooh
I would like a JuJu a blue Blooh
je ne sais quoi is hard to remember sometimes
Blooblooh
These are official animator terms.
4:38
Wtf not only does Joel have some of the best videos in existence, this has got to be one of, if not the, best tutorial ever. It’s fun, educational and creative af.
you're the best channel i found on youtube this year
I'd agree
Not last year?
The best thing about being early is cashing in on all those sweet, sweet likes.
well 22 days aint that long...
Umm, it's only been 22 days
he has now explained, in full ear shot of everyone, the secret.
So the whole animations were done by ebsy- What was that? I thought i heard something
Agreed
@@Justlilmonster must be your imagination
TONY LAZUTO?!?
As we say in the mob "If you show how you make your videos, you're alright."
cheat-code rotoscoping! What a goddamn brilliant concept. Art should absolutely be accessible to everyone. Shoot man, this is like the best kind of youtube. mad respect.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Totally agree with this!
What a wonderfully ordinary comment
@@famouslyterrible3830 a wild ordinary things appears
Ordinary Things is an ordinary person?
“All technology is a cheat code.”
“Art should be in the hands of everyone.”
“We should be able to feel good while making art.”
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Well done, Joel
W-who is Joe?
@@nostalgiaguy3902 joe mama’s son
If everyone is super, no one is super.
-syndrome, I think
i clicked this comment right when he said those lines
I wonder if he has a similar sentiment to how ai is nowadays where you dont even need to do anything yourself whatsoever. Is that still a cheat code or has it crossed the line
Awesome! Can't wait until the technology gets even better!
Wait until he gets even better at his craft, with premium equipment ... It shall be glorious ;) He hasn't hit his ceiling yet I do believe hehe
Didnt expect you to be here Adam!
i was literally just watching your Ready Player One review
good stuff..... weird to follow you here
Sup adum
Woah you’re here too..?
It was somehow way more involved than I thought it would be
Definitely makes me appreciate the sketches more
For me, it is simultaneously more and less involved than I imagined.
I thought the opposite.
Hi Xycron
@Carlos Garcia He said it himself, "AI assisted rotoscoping". For a sketch maker this is already quite enough effort of an as it is
goddamn you're too good for this world
So are you rimmy.
Good day mates
Dare you to Ebsynth animate an ARMA op.
You won't.
(Don't though, that's comedic only because it'd kill you. Don't die.)
1 Hour too late to post anything :(
RIMMY IS HERE TOO? First LifeOfBoris, NOW RIMMMY
Never have a I been so interested in a man talking about how he animates for 7 minutes, his genuine awkward but real voice really draws my attention and makes me smile, every youtuber knows what its like to have a "recording voice" but this guy just doesn't care, he just speaks in his most genuine tone, and I whole-heartedly respect that.
It's rare when someone comes around and changes the whole fucking game, but I'm glad this time it was someone like you, keep being dope man!
this is a certified hood classic
The birth of Joel Haver Genre
So true
You opening more pokeyman cards?
Now you have to do a video with the Joel Haver method!
"Art should be in the hands of everyone." Fuckin' love you, Joel.
Hell yeah.
Wonder how Hitler would feel about that
What if they dont have hands
@@sauviel6296 Art should be in the metaphorical limbs of everyone.
@@curly8393 That's not something you should stop and think about too much.
PAPER THIN LIKE THESE WALLS!!!!!!
AND MY PATIENCE
SO HARD ECONOMY HOW ABOUT THE ECONOMY OF MY PATIENCE?? ITS RUNNING THIN BUDDY
"Art should be in the hands of everyone, and we shouldn't have to break our backs and our wallets and waste our lifes to make it."
I love that statement.
@@Jukestar learn an instrument and write lyrics man you got it
@@Jukestar Dude, I know what you mean. From distractions; to being lazy, unmotivated, depressed, or just not enough damn time to sit down and write something; there are so many things stoping people from getting their creativity out there! A computer brain interface is kinda scary, but if it let me think, build, and edit with my brain. I wouldn’t care if it sucked the soul right out of me lol.
@@Jukestar I'd get a DAW, I think Ableton has a free version. It's overwhelming at first, but once you understand what does what you can put some brain into actual sounds.
That's why I use torrents
@@azca. For real lol. You think I PAID for Zbrush and FL Studio?
Content Creation at its best!
Hey I know you!
Didn't expect to see you here 😂
I love him too
he does it with a mouse
he does it with a mouse
he's too powerful
And that mouse's name is Marshall
I've drawn and sometimes animated digitally with a mouse my entire life and only as I got older did I realize that everyone thinks that's weird. If that's all you use you get used to it, it can be as easy as drawing by hand, sometimes to me it feels easier. But of course you can never get as much detail as you could if you were using like a tablet or something, like I don't know if there's a pressure sensitive drawing mouse or something... Actually I'm gonna look that up.
Well he can't do it with Marshall the Rat because he's a criminal.
@@Squishito A pressure sensitive mouse sounds like something that should exist but I'm not sure it does. Drawing with a mouse hurts my brain because I'm left handed for writing/drawing, but right handed for mousing. So drawing with a mouse feels like I'm using the wrong hand to draw, even though it feels way worse to mouse draw with my left.
Is the Mouses name Marshal ?
Dude, why are you giving away such a huge part of your genius to others? You're obviously a good person for sharing with all of us. Much love!
"Art should be in the hands of everyone, and we shouldn't have to break our backs and our wallets and waste our lives to make it."
This reminds me of that "but DJs aren't real musicians, they're technicians at best" bs
Some people seriously think that music should be free since "it is a hobby, not a job" but do they seriously think many people would want to make music then, let alone have the financial capacity to?
@@DenSvartaStjarnan He's talking about making creativity tools accessible to *creators* and the fact that everyone can be creative. It's the *consumers'* responsibility to compensate the creators of art and music they enjoy.
@@DenSvartaStjarnan Some people do think that. And they are absolutely asshats.
But more in line with Joels theorem for art. Doesn't music exist to be heard? And if you are someone who dreams of creating music, in some form, by some method. Then shouldn't the barrier to entry be as low as we can make it?
The argument is hardly that art should be devalued to the point it should be free, but more that the world should be a place full of art. And if you are someone who wants to create art (for profit, or pleasure, or acclaim, etc) then you should be able to do so.
This channel makes me extremely happy and finding it in 2020 was the highlight of the decade
I found this channel and Value Select on the same day.
Truly a blessed end to a shit decade.
Agreed. Albeit 2020 was a low bar to hurdle, discovering Joel was a wonderful way to end - and maybe even redeem - the worst year of my life.
Same!
same
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i think rotoscope animation is really such an underrated style. depending on the context its used in it can either emphasize in the moment awkwardness like joel said, or complex movement like this one music video i saw. plus if you do it by hand it can probably teach you a few things about animating movement on your own
this is why I prefer Rotoscoping.
The only limitation is how much work you’re willing to put into the product.
Whereas with CGI and Mocap you absolutely are limited by the computers abilities.
I watched all your videos in the past month. Gem of a channel
Same here!
Maybe we could get some machinima creators to start using this style haha
I felt special when the channel was below 10k subs not that long ago. Truly a gem, he deserves everything he's gotten!
Inb4 hiru starts incorporating this style into his vids.
Lich king in this style when?
Same, absolutely love these videos!
"Anytime technology makes art easier to learn, more accessible, more efficient, we should applaud it. Art should be in the hands of everyone, and we shouldn't have to break our backs, our wallets, and waste our lives to make it." - Joel, 5:33
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When he showed that he highlighted the still frame I really thought that he was going to do that for every single frame. Which is what does happen. Just the program does it for him. I think that encapsulates the point he was talking about because fuuuuuuuck doing that lol
100%
@@ohnoitsu1 I mean, folks used to do that (although to be fair, they had teams of animators to do it). It was called rotoscoping. The really funny thing is, one of the big uses was as a cost-savings measure to get decent animation for really complicated motion. Apparently it saved so much time (and therefore production costs) in animation for complicated stuff that the savings outweighed the cost of hiring some no-name actors and filming them dancing or fighting or whatever. It also was used sometimes for stylistic effect, like the music video for "Take on Me".
@@Maddbox11235 Good to know. Cheers
"Art should be in the hands of everyone, you know, we shouldn't have to break our backs and our wallets and waste our lives to make it." Fuckin quote of the year right there
Might be a little early to make a claim like that, Joel has 11 more months to spread his wisdom.
ALSO it allows talented artists to make MORE art because it takes them less time to complete each project. Their time is spent on artistic decisions rather than labour.
5:41 Yep
I fr thought this whole artstyle was just AI tracing an actual video, didn't expect it to be so hands on! Well done!
You are a wonderful person, thank you for sharing. I can’t imagine doing this with a mouse. 😦
Hildegard!! Thanks for making me like bardcore, lmao
Hildegard!! I absolutely love your music!
Wow worlds collide!
this isnt a copy paste lol i just want you to tell me who snapped harder me or my friend on this song ua-cam.com/video/ff2TS6rldSE/v-deo.html
It's cool to see youtubers use their channels for regular use. hey hildegard
Oh yes-finally! I’ve wanted to know how you make these!
I didn't... Just kidding I did! YOU JUST GOT P-P-PRANKED!!!!
It's alot more interesting than I thought.
I guess we just got the same recommended videos, because I just saw your new comments on the last two guys johnson videos I watched
yea its super cool maybe you could do a milestone video doing this!
O hai One Topic
big resprect for this video...
you even made it funny lol
Wild Gromek
When 10 veterans coming out?
you make amazing mordhau videos bruhh
helo funny borger man
Why are you everywhere Gromek? haha
"it should make it a little more fun, ahm, ushoo shoe bluebloo"
-Joel Haver, 2021
"Now that we're on youtube, in full earshot of everyone, I will disclose to you THE secrets"
@@ovakak9267 I swear I just heard something.
The whole operation is run by ...
@@ovakak9267 I swear I just heard something.
The whole operation is run by ...
@@mr.slackjawed1466 the whole Operation is run by EBsyn-
What was that?
@@alvanprathama375 Tony Lazuto?! You’re telling me-
What was that? I swear I saw something
@@jgamer2228
Never mind, must have been my imagination.
The whole operation is run b-
What was that? I swear I saw something.
This animation is now known as the "Joel Haver style". Fully deserved
"Havermation" as I've seen in other comments.
But it's basically just rotoscoping. Let's just call it what it is eh.
@@LukeSparrow221 "The Joel Haver style of animation consists of a rotoscoped work employing slow burn comedy and situational awkwardness resulting from its semi improvisational format." -my drunk ass academia self
should add the vhs effect to that
@@LukeSparrow221 mad?
This is like Mr. Krabs revealing the Krabby Patty Secret Formula
But the "Planktons" should be original
5:55 - "Thank you, for making it."
This is one of the best reasons I can find for learning coding:
Want to change the world?
You can.
One line at a time. ♥
Super cool to see, very unique!
I agree!
Rotoscoped graphics for OSRS when?
Whats with all these RS youtubers on here
Osrs for life
@@KingMaz1 mate we couldn't quit even if we tried
He's like the Bob Ross of animation. And I absolutely didn't expect that.
ma boi Bob ross
He Kind Of Looks Like Him.
609 likes
He is the new generation Bob Ross
He doesn't have the Bob Ross tone. I feel like I am watching what it would be like if Tim and Eric were paid to make actual tutorials.
"Art should be in the hands of everyone" you're a fucking absolute treasure Joel Haver.
Also, a note for the people still thinking that they're the exception:
"Sucking at something is the first step towards becoming sorta good at it"
Thanks
They may copy how he animates, but *NONE* can ever be in par with his natural comedic acting !!!
Same comment I made a minute ago))
@@razor23Ukraine what?
I feel like the method can be 'copied' which Joel really seems to encourage, without his _style_ of animation being copied, which no one could do as well anyway :)
the speech pattern and timing is like 90% of the appeal to me
Yeah the animation is like the icing on a cake: it’s nice and I like it a lot but I enjoy a full cake way more than just the icing by itself.
Petition to give this style a nickname like "Haver's Technique" or something to give credit where credit is due
Thank the guys/gals at Ebsynth, Haha! they probably worked their ass off to make this type of program to work!
@@snazzle9764 Bang on!
saw a comment saying the cool kids call this Havermation
@@Schyferyel Love it :D
Well, it's called rotoscoping. It's neat and it's cool he's kind of revived it, but it has a history that reaches back. One of my favorite uses of it was in Adult Swim's *Dream Corp LLC*
Just a tip for EbSynth: When the output starts to break up, you don't have to rotoscope additional frames from scratch. Rather, go to the processed folder and look for a frame that's just slightly off, take it to Photoshop and fix it. Do a few frames like this, throw them back into the keyframes folder and reprocess. Rinse and repeat.
+!!
nice tip thanks homie
So, can I use other painting app instead of Photoshop?
Oh shit! :O you're fucking awesome!!
@@hasithagayalambattaya8929 it says "Photoshop (or equivalent program)" in the video
I come here from time to time only for " joujou bluu bluu fluu fluue".
It's so cool how you came up with a new style :D
Thank you for sharing
Yea, he's definitely one of my favorite artists on the app. I want to make an he162 video like this but, I doubt I'd be able to 😅
Hey, I'm pretty sure I used ebsynth for something a while ago...
It is very poggers indeed
The fact that the glitches aren't planned, but are just AI errors is even better.
"Art should be in the hands of everyone"
- the homie.
-da Joel
came for the tutorial stayed for the shoo shoo m'loo m'loo floo floo
I’ve never wished for a content creator to have their own show more than this one
He's explained in previous videos that he doesn't really like that sort of thing e.g You're Already a Filmmaker
The world will remember you for this selfless gesture. Sharing information and encouraging others to utilize these tools and your process to foster their own creativity. 👍
No way the mandem nem is here
Well said!
hereeee we go
I was actually wondering how he made these videos for weeks. It's a nice and simple way to make animations.
Always wanted to make one, but I don't have much skill so this is great.
This is Joel Haver. He believes that art does not belong to one person, and should be shared with everyone, so he shares his entire art style rather than hoard it for himself. Be more like Joel Haver.
I disagree. What he did was very selfless and kind, but I believe if someone discovers, practices and hones their own art style, they shouldn't feel obligated to reveal to the world exactly how to replicate it. A style is what makes an artist unique, so I can completely understand those who are opposed to sharing their process.
@@sloppyphart7879 I agree with what youre saying but I think that they just said “be more like Joel haver” for the sake of quoting a meme
Joel haver? More like Joel giver
@@niedzisiaj6645 this is a special and specific style of rotoscoping animation that Joel discovered. That's what I'm saying.
@@sloppyphart7879 There's more to uniqueness than just style. Joel has built a whole world of characters at this point that are specifically his.
I litterally thought his art was like a 3d model vr chat users use, but its actually animated and fooled me
big fan of the work and now this breakdown
Now this is a pleasant surprise!
Thanks Kraig, big fan of this comment about your being a big fan of the work and now this breakdown
Yoooo all my fav youtubers on this
Kraig Adams straight up makes a celebrity appearance. You are a legend with your amazing videos too dude 🙌
What is this, a crossover episode?
Now if someone can remake Once in a Lifetime with this style that would be great
That WILL be great.
Holy shit that would be amazing. One of my favorite songs of all time, grew up listening to it in my dad's car. The music video would be perfect for this.
If it's as half as good as your gman sfm its gonna be good
I heard about a guy who did that with Source Filmmaker
@@butterdogestarwars6709 Now I'm just picturing TF2 assets
Frick, man. Good at presenting, good at editing. Is there anything Joel can't do?? (this is actually a way more straightforward process than I was expecting, it seems super accessible). "I think the more creative tools people have, the better." What. A. Dude.
Good writing as well
Hopefully this video spurs someone to make better tools to assist in this process.
It's not a terribly difficult process, just time consuming and rather repetitive.
I use EbSynth to animate fight and skateboard clips and there's really not much more to it than drawing your keyframes and letting EBSynth fill in the gaps.
Is the tf2 dude
What A Dude indeed! Damn.
I love how two sections have the same recursion joke.
"Art should be in the hands of everyone" - Joel Haver
Best quote
Imagine being a wholesome, caring, and unique UA-camr in 2021... What a guy
Can't like... You're at 69
*Edit:* what was I thinking, 69 don't last. -_-
@@rishi7629 Perhaps just a bad hangover?
idk hes probably going to cheat on his wife after all this youtube success XD
Been binging your videos all month and been spamming them to all my friends, you're a rare one.
Hey its runescape guy
So I'm not the only one it seems
@@LilSmokey yoo lilsmokey huge fan my man, keep it up
@KempQ and @LilSmokey on a joel video? what is this, a crossover episode?
Once one of his videos blew up his whole channel did because his content truly is good, it just didn't have an audience before. Its rare to find someone like that. Also
Jesus Christ the effort that went into this video... Explaining the process whilst putting in the very techniques into the video, keeping the character going, the explanation going, while also finding a way to as an editor and creator have fun with it. Letting the video become somewhat meta. It's fun to see and kinda rubs up against humor for me. It can really give a glimpse into the mind of the creator to see the levels of effort behind a given project, and what little tidbits get hidden in-between the metaphorical lines. This video is weirdly genius even for being a behind the scenes kind of video.
Like how the animated person is doing the work over a typically real person. That's just... Funny to me on a level I can't quite put into words.
Me: "Wow, he's so good at creating awkward moments"
Joel: "Actually they were real, I didn't write anything down so we genuinely didn't know what to say"
Ahahah
i was wondering why some scenes where like he was asking a girl out
People who complain about animation being unrealistic are the one stuck too long in 2D they forgot what reality is.
“ Art should be on the hands of everyone “ Joel Haver
The crazy glitches and lifelike movement are like 70% of why this style is so entertaining. Like it’s a simulation barely holding together.
Lmao this is totally it Hahaha
HAHAHAHA TRUE
exactly
Yeah, it's just enough that you can tell it's not meant to be happening, but not so much that it's over the top and annoying. There's a lot of things like that in art.
It sounds stupid but its the appeal and absolutely true
I just found your channel and I love it! And Wow! Such a complex proccess to make these videos. I will assure to hit the like button on each video I see
Respect for sharing your knowledge :)
Bossman Brad loves a bit of quality animation
oh no u gonna steal it.
YES THIS MEANS YOU ACTUALLY POSTING!
hello
holy shit brad
i love you bro
Please make more videos
Not only did you create a brand new style of indie rotoscoping but you shared the entire process and delivered it in a gag-style like always too. Love everything about this. Most wholesome comedian on the platform.
“Art should be in the hands of everyone”
Such true words.
Not everyone can be a great artist but an artist can come from anywhere.
You: giving money to ethots
As someone who created his first animation in Macromedia Flash using Poser I really appreciate this look behind the curtain. Always incredible to see the effort that is required for even a 10 second clip. Keep up your great work, I really like it!
2:41 "Isn't that fun? That's crazy"
Don't know why but it got me. Literally lol'd
Thas crazi
I love his smooth awkwardness. Most awkwardness kills me but this guy's doesn't 😂
It's confident awkwardness, somehow. Like he's well aware he's awkward and he just doesn't give a fuck. It's hard to explain xD
Even his informative videos become like his story-telling ones. That's a smart amalgamation.
i think it helps that he always has something to say. it has little hitches, but its carried so well that its almost relaxing. feels casual
it reminds me of rick and morty
It's the jou-jou bloo-bloo floo-floo
Joel, the fact that you go through THIS much effort to make short vids to entertain us makes me appreciate you so much more than I already thought I could. Then, to top it all off, this special method that made you famous you, instead of gate keeping it, decide to share it with the rest of us. If anyone on this platform deserved the fame and admiration it would most certainly be you. Thank you for all you do!
6:08 that's what I love about them they have this awkward uncanny feel like you found a old vhs tape in the attic and started to watch it
This is the most earnest video that somehow doesn't "break character" I've ever seen.
The fact you legitimately showed people how to make videos this way is fucking legendary. Mad respect for you and your respect for the craft.
"Any time technology makes art easier to learn, more accessible, more efficient, we should applaud it."
I love that line. You're awesome for doing this!
The awkward and uncanny nature of this make is immaculate and beautiful this guy is a legend
Dude this is pretty rare, for a creator to be praised for a unique style and everyone be asking how do you do it and then just come right out and explain exactly how, give away all the "secret sauce," and literally tell people it's okay to copy exactly their style.
It's just so cool and it shows you're not insecure in your own ability to continue to innovate, evolve, and grow, and that empowering others is more important to you than trying to hold onto some gold nugget of the artistic realm that you now have ownership over.
Super dope dude.
So much wisdom at such a young age. Joel is the hero we need but don't deserve.
Although I totally agree, it still has some insignificant negative impact on his work. Take some of the secret fastfood recipes. People would be able to copy and recreate them, which in itself doesn't really have any impact on the flavour of these secret recipes, in fact, it's the opposite. Giving people the opportunity to improve, upgrade, alter art styles through inspiration such as this channel, will make the "flavour" significantly better as we will be getting more "recipes" of such type, where some may be potentially far more "tasty".
But, the insignificant negative impact is that it as a result makes his work less unique. Now, in my opinion, I like when the stuff I watch is unique. I enjoy a wide disparity between the kinds of content that gets recommended to me. Unfortunately, this is difficult to do when so many people spam the same things. I made the mistake with reddit-reading videos. I fixed my recommended now, but for a few weeks it was pretty annoying. The risk of poor-quality content becomes greater the more people try it, which as a result makes it harder to find the best of the best creators out there.
edit: I totally support what he did, but this is rather my individualistic preference. I get that some people may like seeing more content like his, but I personally prefer my content "concentrated" rather than "watered-down".
@@TechSupportDave I agree. However, you miss the point in what will *ALWAYS* make Joel's animations superior to anything that may come out similar to it: him, Joel. He has such a unique way in how he carries himself and talks that can never be imitated or copied.
I watch his animations not just for the cool style of the animations, but for the characters he creates.
@@TechSupportDave you like your content not watered down and concentrated so that a variety of single creator's have different styles.
But by doing that your missing out ALOT of fun shit people make that is similar dude. The only insignificant impact that has happened is that you limit yourself to feeding through a straw
While as everyone else has their helpings by the spoon full.
Because You won't broaden out what you watch. You've restricted yourself into a corner.
Joel on the other hand is the opposite. By revealing his secrets he's shown that he's not afraid of what other people make. He's strongly confident that his content alone is more then just an arstyle.
By sharing his secrets he improves and encourages other UA-camrs to be creative and to give them the spark so that their content might be able to be "concentrated"
Aswell
It sure as shit is better then hoarding his techniques so no one learns how to improve
@@pingaspearce9403 [TL;DR at the bottom]
I disagree with this one part. I do not watch youtube enough to feel the necessity to NOT feed myself through a straw (Though I wouldn't call it that).
Therefore, I prefer to watch only the things that I love the most. My youtube experience would become significantly worse if I were to suddenly start watching everything that gets recommended to me.
For one, it would mess up my recommended as I previously mentioned.
Two, I'd be wasting a lot of time on content that I do not enjoy, or do not enjoy as much. This is something that I did when I was younger. I did not enjoy the amount of videos I'd abandon half-way. It was not only unhealthy watching things I don't enjoy, but it was also unhealthy how much time I actually spent on youtube.
Just to clarify, it's not that i'm not broadening my horizons. I have simply stopped letting myself get clickbaited. This means, 99% of the time I stay watching content that I enjoy the most. That 1% being that risk of wasted time. That's a balance that I'm fine with, as it means that for every 100 videos watched, there's one video that I watch that I don't know I'll like.
And, that 1 video IS usually a video that I'll like. Why? Because it's usually a video that truly grabs my interest and perfectly appeals to my preferences. In fact, these proportions are perfect in my case, because there's also a 1% chance that I'll stop watching a type of content or creator. So the things I watch are perpetually changing.
I probably wouldn't even call it a "Straw", but rather just a methodical approach that completely satisfies me.
There will always be amazing content creators that I won't know about. Why would I bother going out of my way to find them all when it's impossible in the first place? Why would I even want more if I'm already watching content that I wholly enjoy? I quite frankly don't see the point if I don't have the capacity to regularly watch them all in the first place.
This isn't pokemon. Maybe to you it is if you spend your entire days on youtube, but other people are often different. I can't spend my days searching through youtube for new things, and I don't know why I'd want to if I'm enjoying watching the things i'm enjoying.
TL;DR: I'm not feeding myself through a straw and who are you to tell me how I should use youtube? I'm already watching content that's as enjoyable as it can get for me, if you have a problem with that then you're simply an asshole.
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Won't be bothering to reply any further as I'm anticipating people to purposefully misunderstand me, as you already partially did but there's no point pointing it out now.
You are an absolutely incredible human being! Thanks for sharing it with us! *taking notes furiously*
"A lil juju fluw fluw"