Konstantin Batygin: Planet 9 and the Edge of Our Solar System | Lex Fridman Podcast
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Konstantin Batygin is a planetary astrophysicist at Caltech. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:18 - Overview of our Solar System
16:16 - What is the Oort Cloud?
21:11 - Life in the interstellar medium
22:44 - Are there aliens out there?
25:23 - How unique is Earth?
28:04 - Did Jupiter destroy early planets?
34:18 - How hard is it to simulate the Universe?
38:50 - Quantum mechanics in evolution of objects in the Solar system
43:17 - Simulating the first formations around the Sun
49:04 - Will it be possible to simulate the full history of the Solar System?
51:24 - How far should we go with the simulation?
53:45 - Increasing immersion in video games
1:00:10 - What is Planet Nine?
1:06:39 - The origin of life
1:09:03 - Evidence of Planet Nine
1:11:33 - Discovery of Neptune
1:12:43 - When will we find Planet Nine?
1:15:22 - Planet Nine throws rocks into the Kuiper Belt
1:19:17 - Could Planet Nine be a primordial black hole?
1:29:21 - Commercial space revolution boosts science and the human condition
1:36:48 - Solving sex in space
1:37:26 - Would humans evolve if we couldn't see the stars?
1:43:09 - Military funding and science
1:47:13 - Is Oumuamua space junk from a distant alien civilization?
2:00:35 - Wild ideas create the future
2:08:24 - The perfect place to die
2:10:05 - Greatest song of all time
2:16:35 - Music enables science for Konstantin
2:18:53 - Music practice tips for busy people
2:22:43 - Memories of 1990s Russia
2:29:15 - Advice for young people
2:35:11 - Meaning of life
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0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
- Squarespace: lexfridman.com/squarespace and use code LEX to get 10% off
- Literati: literati.com/lex
- Onnit: lexfridman.com/onnit to get up to 10% off
- National Instruments (NI): www.ni.com/perspectives
1:18 - Overview of our Solar System
16:16 - What is the Oort Cloud?
21:11 - Life in the interstellar medium
22:44 - Are there aliens out there?
25:23 - How unique is Earth?
28:04 - Did Jupiter destroy early planets?
34:18 - How hard is it to simulate the Universe?
38:50 - Quantum mechanics in evolution of objects in the Solar system
43:17 - Simulating the first formations around the Sun
49:04 - Will it be possible to simulate the full history of the Solar System?
51:24 - How far should we go with the simulation?
53:45 - Increasing immersion in video games
1:00:10 - What is Planet Nine?
1:06:39 - The origin of life
1:09:03 - Evidence of Planet Nine
1:11:33 - Discovery of Neptune
1:12:43 - When will we find Planet Nine?
1:15:22 - Planet Nine throws rocks into the Kuiper Belt
1:19:17 - Could Planet Nine be a primordial black hole?
1:29:21 - Commercial space revolution boosts science and the human condition
1:36:48 - Solving sex in space
1:37:26 - Would humans evolve if we couldn't see the stars?
1:43:09 - Military funding and science
1:47:13 - Is Oumuamua space junk from a distant alien civilization?
2:00:35 - Wild ideas create the future
2:08:24 - The perfect place to die
2:10:05 - Greatest song of all time
2:16:35 - Music enables science for Konstantin
2:18:53 - Music practice tips for busy people
2:22:43 - Memories of 1990s Russia
2:29:15 - Advice for young people
2:35:11 - Meaning of life
Thanks, Lex. Love your content, keep up the amazing work!
Lex can you do a pod with an expert on dating advice? the 3 day plus 1 year hypothesis needs work ! 😀
Isn't that what people called Niburu?
Outer space passed our exosphere the 4th layer of our atmosphere which is around 2000 miles out the I.S.S. is up around 260 miles for comparison the temperature passed this point in outer space is - 455 degrees Fahrenheit --- Quantum computers to achieve quantum state run at - 457 degrees Fahrenheit --- A thinker for my friend Lex Fridman
no talk about James webb telescope :(
Dude the guests, topics, conversations lately! You’re killing it brother
And for me, above all, it's the visible hard work that Lex puts into getting his research right. I really like it when he has his little notes throughout some interviews, these topics ain't easy to just jump into.
@immafinna betryna Joe is entertainment. With Lex I feel like he really cares about the topics and learning from the guests.
best interviewer of our generation
I agree 100%.
Other than this dude needing to clear his got damn throat or a little more effort to speak.....it was a badass podcast!
The photos, graphs, and animations are so helpful. Please keep it we appreciate it very much, thank you!
Yes, great work Lex, extremely helpful when trying to visualize
Yes it really is great!
Loved it also. I just don't know how he finds enough hours in the day!!
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Wtf??????
Just had to say Konstantin is awesome. So easy to listen to. And sometimes I even understand the topic :)
😂
Lex is my favorite person in the whole world. Love his humility and his genuine love of people.
Same
not love, but i got shit tons of respect for that guy. he seems to be a legitimate "good person"
Hmm I been picking up on how he prefers lefty things. When has Bruce Springsteen been liked by conservatives? The left and so called liberals are more akin to a death-cult now days. Love you bro!
Most profound sentence for whole episode, " failure is not a sign that the initial persuit was worthless".
Yes, since life has to go on in one or the other pretext(!)
creative way of rationalizing failure
@@mtklaric Exactly. Only when you are paid by government grants can you have this kind of attitude.
@@Dan.50 so true
indeed
This guest is awesome. The way he explains this shit is perfect.
Yeah, He got a nice voice.
agree...I love space...my favorite topic to study...all the elite guys though are so bad at actually relaying information to people who don't have access to the things they do. it is so frustrating sometimes..this guy is phenomenal...
The way he explains it is irritating.
Leave vocal fry for the kardashians and teenage girls.
You got billions of objects if not more, and it's been collisionless for a billion years? Horse shit! 100% assumption BS.
@@andreas0101 agreed but I’d advice him to let the air flow out more relaxed. He sounds a bit pressed, held back. It gets better as the podcast goes on.
I am in love with the passion that man has for physics. Such an intelligent individual. He puts a smile on my face just watching him explain the information in that brilliant brain of his.. I cam tell he is in love with physics. I'm so glad he is doing what he loves.
"I wanna know what life is, and I want you to show me." And with a straight face yet! Great guest with a sense of humor. Thx Lex for another winner.
23:43 time stamp
I was waiting for “Have you ever been to the desert? Yes… I rode horse… but I can’t remember the horse’s name.”
@@jeffg4570 Life's just a song;)
The answer is 42. He answered the question. But do you know where the question came from?
I think the song goes,” I wanna know what love is,💕 I want you to show me” what was the name of that band? Any takers?
I'm going to listen to this a second time just to fully absorb this conversation. I love these mind blowing topics about space!!!
The quality of guest Lex gets is of such a high level. I can't remember one that hasn't captivated me. I'm sure Lex asks questions for us as well. He knows the answers but leads the conversation to make it as interesting and informative as possible and creates a platform for the guest to shine sometimes sacrificing his own ego and feigning ignorance on a subject to ensure a great interview. Bravo Lex.
Batygin seems like such a patient, thoughtful dude. Loved hearing him just let the knowledge flow out. Even when things were veering off in directions he wasn't interested in exploring, he found a way to relate where he could and debate where he felt he needed to.
“When you are listening to the boss ; you are ready to meet the Boss,” awesome quote . Very insightful interview . Thanks guys !
I'm still here 8 months later watching this for around the 5th time and still I learn something new everytime.
This is one of my favorite Lex podcasts. The chemistry between you two is great. This dude puts Lex in a great chill mood
DITTO
This guy always looks like he's about to burst out laughing. I like people like that. Makes me smile, anticipating a laugh coming
He’s so passionate! I sometimes smile that way when I’m teaching particularly engaged students.
Me too, unless its inappropriate when talking about greef subjects. Now let me be clear, this man is not guilty of this, but to me it seems that this phenomenon is occuring more and more.
I saw that too! 😂 I guess he's just a happy guy! It must be the love he has for his work!
And he has a band, and loved to play, among aaall of this knowledge and love of knowledge, he must be the good guy.
Id be laughing to if I was paid quite well for preaching complete nonsense that claims to be hard science yet is mostly based on wild imagination and assumptions. Basically wild guesses.
This is by far the best interview of Batygin I've ever seen, and I've seen them all! Very well done with organized questions and good graphics. It's a long interview, but it's chuck full of very good information for Planet Niners. There's also a good personal chemistry between Fridman and Batygin, which helps. Very well done sir!
So if there are 49 of your you could be called niner 49rs. Hehehe
Is Planet 9 from outer spac-er a thing?
Yeah
Konstantin is the coolest person ever. Smart. Eloquent. Respectful. Insightful. Wonderful guest
This conversation is so incredibly refreshing. Talking about science, games, music...that's exactly my own neck of the woods. Thank you, Lex
Спасибо за ещё одно прекрасное интервью, Лекс!
What
@@princessmonicakhaira google translate
@@princessmonicakhaira I just thanked Lex for another great interview.
@@princessmonicakhaira it was obviously a msg to the host in Russian :]
Blood Blood
two Brilliant Russian immigrants in conversation! I have lived in Moscow for 29 years and appreciate the intellect, sincerity and openness of these two guys.
In ten years, Lex Fridman and I are going to be the smartest, most well-informed people on the planet. Unless there’s somebody else that’s listening these interviews, as well.
See you then friend, only thing is that I'll have only 9yrs to your 10yrs.😅😅
Just started friend
This is one of my favorite podcast episodes from any show.
It’s so crazy seeing intellectual conversations between two cutting edge scientists having tangents about Skyrim and RDR2 lol. The younger video game generation has finally grown up 🥲
We’re getting old :(
I have attempted to meditate many times in my life and prior to this CD the only success I've experienced is with live guided meditation. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq This is the first CD I've used that cuts through my unmedicated ADHD and enables me to truly relax and experience a quiet and energizing interval. The instructors voice is very soothing and pleasant to listen to. I am easily able to sit successfully through the entire CD, and for quite some time after. I cannot adequately express how tremendously helpful this CD has been on my spiritual journey!! Two thumbs up and 10 stars!
Only problem is you never know what you’re getting with the “New Age” cult we have now here in the US.
I learnt more from the First Hour of this podcast than the Astronomy paper I paid $900 for at The University of Auckland
This guy makes it extremely easy to understand/visualize the process of space and time.
Auckland yeah You tube taught me heaps
Ha that'
IS OK good to me lol I 88 7ish
Auckland uni is a woke joke bro
This conversation went really deep without even trying, it was so good to listen to you guys
Let me tell you lex. You're on another level my man, I always even look back at previous work of yours and im always fascinated by it. Keep doing your thing
Crazy huh?
I think that was possibly the most touching intro to any podcast I've ever seen. Bravo Lex, ever since seeing you on JRE you piqued my interest and I have yet to be disappointed.
You have my much earned like and subscription.
These new animations in the videos are are awesome. Thank you Lex for improving an already sublime podcast experience.
I watch Konstantin Batygin on "How the Universe works" and I just love how excited he is about his work and about the Universe as a whole. So glad I found your podcast Lex! You have a great line-up of interviews and you are doing great work! Keep it up!!
Lex's shows are at a whole new level. Quite unique and entertaining. 5 stars.
What a fun conversation! I hope you find more people like him to talk to
"I just hope there's dragons"
"I LOOOVE dragons"
"Dragons are the best"
😂😂😂 Great scientific insight right here
These two are adorable at times, in another life maybe they'd date
Coincidence...
get a room
heres a theory. the t-rex was an actual dragon. look at the x ray or an ostrich and the skeleton of a trex. tell me it didnt fly
@@travisprugh6347 you’re confusing dinosaurs. We had huge dinosaurs “dragons” that could fly you know. Just like today’s winged lizard x20000 bigger.
This is one of my favourite podcasts of the year!
Thanks for talking to people worth listening to.
Lex please get Konstantin back on, I have watched this so many times i know it verbatim. Much love brother.
I think there was a movie about this back in the 60's:
*Space Babes From Planet 9*
I love space themed conversations. Thank you, Lex. Fascinating.
My favorite podcast you've ever done. I've listened to it at least 5 times.
Damn you're gorgeous
What only 5
We need this guy back for round 2!
Now I can only hear Michael Malice in the intro
lolol
I hope to see Konstantin back on the podcast. This was great and there's so, so much more astronomy and astrophysics of our solar system to explore in conversation!
How great would it be if Lex had Bob Lazar on
Konstantin was a great guest. Makes the whole planet 9 thing sound very plausible.
Awesome podcast. Please get Anton Petrov on. He also has so much knowledge on Space & Mathematics.
lol i literally thought about this a few weeks ago as i watched a video from Anton. Could be a nice conversation between these two special snowflakes.
Open minds, open dialogue, so much awesome info
I HIGHLY recommend putting in headphones and sleeping while listening. The dreams were so freaking cool! I want to go back tonight!
I enjoyed your convo w Konstantin..
inspiring
Konstantin is a great guest in a pantheon of greatness. Could listen to this one over and over
Lex, your podcast is really developing into an incredible hub of fascinating topics and guests. Please, whatever you do, don't let anyone fuck this up.
He's got such a so cal surfer vibe, I love it! He reminds me of all my stoner friends in my youth, only slightly smarter.
What a wonderful, captivating and educational episode. The topics covered in this specific episode were exactly what keeps me awake late at night, each and every one of them. Congratulations!
This guy is awesome. Hope you can get him back at some point in the future. Excellent job Lex.
"Optimally good at chilling" .... That is the most Lex Fridman thing I've ever heard
First Kipping now Batygin? I'd pay good money to listen to either one. Where else can you find quality talks like this? As a hard-core astronomy geek I deeply appreciate what you're doing.
The fact that he has a hedgehog on his table for this guy is just amazing
Konstantin is incredible-- I am so happy to have him in the public realm for science education and storytelling-- seems like such a humble, regular (really, really smart of course) guy who likes to explain his science. Mike Brown had me at Sedna, but Batygan is his own entirely promising media presence.
@Lex. I have to hand it to you man-- that was an unreal interview. It's like you knew you had a guy that found a planet and made as much good use of your time as possible. Kudos. Great watch
I had no idea the Oort Cloud was 3D. I thought it was on the same plane as all the planets. That explains how the comets enter into and cross our orbit so much.
So you thought it was two dimensional all the way up until now? Huh?
They tend to be on similar angle to Nibiru.
One of the best podcasts I’ve heard in a long time! Thank you lex!
This has been one of the best interviews! Thank you both for sharing the knowledge.
Batygin is soooo good at explaining, communicating that I feel sad of making a pause after almost an hour of podcast.
I'm 8 minutes in and I feel I need to pause and consolidate my newfound knowledge
Thanks for making me feel like I had an eyelash stuck to my screen.
I thought an eye lash was stuck under my screen protector!
Konstantin seems like such a great person.
If I could just listen to these two beings over and over again....*swoon oh wait....hits replay
I love how Lex shows images to pierce the knowledge in our brains
As a person with ADHD, visual based learning is the only way I get by. Bless his heart
This has got to be one of the most interesting podcast discussions that I've ever watched. Thank you!
Konstantin is an excellent guest. He is a multi-faceted expert and a well educated person, including but not limited to science/physics (and more), mathematics and most interesting is how well versed Konstantin is in the humanities. His dialogue towards the end about the importance of not being clone of the high-grades, superior resume and entitled ‘A’ graduates.
When cancer derailed my career at 57 I had been on my own for 10 years, after a full corporate career. I obtained the title of Senior Executive, as part of the 6 person leadership team that together took the company public into a phenomenal IPO. My peers went to he great schools Harvard, Princeton, Yale. Once at a meeting that included the CEO (Harvard) a very important new client. I was asked where I got my masters degree, I looked up from the conference room table and said, ‘You mean PhD and that I earned at the best school there is for learning how to solve complex problems, ‘The University of La Strada.’
CEO looked at the new client and said, ‘There is nothing that I would not trust that Peter would accomplish if he said he could. There is no job too difficult or overwhelming. His veracity alone is legendary, all the while juggling infinite balls in the air while doing it.”
I attribute this to having a full rich life, before I decided I wanted to go from a 37 year old technical writer to partner in one decade. I did it. As Konstantin did as well. You too can do this if you can manage your time and ego. Listening to Lex’s podcast is a great place to start.
Such a great episode!
Lex, thanks for welcoming the witty, talented, and interesting Konstantin to Lex's Machine, for us outsiders looking in. Pink Floyd is the Best. I'm impressed you two Whipper Snappers know your music history.
wow, this one was epic! didn´t know this guy, got my respect, well done.
Love long form interviews
Lex... The beginning of each of your videos hit so damn hard and ring true with me - It's just insane. Haha! Kudos to you for doing these insanely well thought-out and deeply thought-provoking podcasts and conversations. One of my goals is to come on your podcast! haha
Awesome podcast again Lex, amazing that you are able to ask such great questions, of amazing guests, and do it so often. Hard to keep up with the pods. Thumbs up
Wonderful conversation and excellent guest. I hope you have him on again. That young man is going places.
Great interview Lex. You are always well prepared and your questions are always interesting and relevant to the discussion at hand. I listen to every interview. You treat your guests with respect and also seem able to bring out their human side.
Well done.
Lex is becoming my favorite podcaster asks probing questions, including those difficult and even impossible to comment on he likes to treat subjects that are mysterious and just now expanding into serious studies UFOs are a good example
Always loved this guy on John Michael Godier’s show.
Could not figure out where I’d watched him before, that’s it!
I love Godier's videos. His voice is so soothing. Even saying his name is soothing rolls right off the tongue.
@DSUM He's spending too much time with Anna
Really love the occasional pictures and graphics. Keeps me from Googling whily listening 😂
So good! One of my favorite interviews. As per usual after absorbing your show, I feel smarter and spiritually richer. I had no idea how vast a territory it is that our little Sun governs. Loved the ps4 tangent.
What a fascinating man to listen to. I think this may be the first time I have heard a scientist he honestly state that we don't really know how life originates. ( I'm sure others do. I just haven't heard them). I appreciate that.
Mr. Batygin is an absolutely wonderful teacher! 👍😀
Finally some one who uses logical probability in deducing if there’s life outside this planet. I would like to work with these people and absorb their knowledge.
""...logical probability..."??
Is there "illogical probability"
@@goyonman9655 yea. When people make limited assumptions based on the things we think we know. Like many Hypotheses.
@@irony9234 but if you think you know it, it's not an illogical probability
and how do you know Konstantin's probability is logical by your definition
you would need to know everything to be sure his probability is logical (by your definition)
@@goyonman9655 I’m not all knowing. But for example the woman he interviewed about Life and Alien life said she didn’t think Aliens would travel here because “what’s the point?” & “it would take too long”. It’s that sort of limited thinking I’m talking about. Superior vehicles that travel much much much faster are theoretically and problematically inevitable. its going to become a reality and it will completely shut down that idea down. And what’s the point? There doesn’t need to be a point. That type of technology can teach us more than we understand today about something as simple as gravity. Nothing is concrete in the form of ideas, evolution is forever, with or without us. So nothing should be discounted, and many “scholars” do just that. And that’s what I find illogical.
@@goyonman9655 We can play this game all day lol. I like the idea that almost anything is possible, and that idea should stay open.
Would be really interesting if you invite some medical doctors too , surgeons, genetics or virologists !
The deep voices of these two intelligent men are a kind of elixir to the ears.
Good man for putting up graphics. Works really well Lex 👌
Now I understand why you guys had so easy to talk to each other, both with Russian background. I very much enjoyed you guys playing on the razors edge between serious topics and just having fun! I wonder if there is a Guiness World Record for talking to most scientists? Impressive Lex!
Love this guy! Great interview as usual. I hope you interview him again.
This is a fun and awesome conversation on all levels.
Yes, yes, thank you Alex! Great guest, Konstantin, like other yours! Will see with pleasure.
I listened to this and fell to sleep and dreamt a lot of what they were discussing and it was amaaaazing!!
I do that every night
Lex podcasts have become the soundtrack to my dreams
You guys have such a vibe, wish I was 40 years younger
Don't go gaying it all up.
@@whiplash3kilo756 ??? WTF ??? I'm a WOMAN, saying I find these two guys attractive (if too young for me). Weirdo.
me too
@@amandayorke481 report that guy, that was extremely rude. I'm a dude and they def have a vide not in any sexual way but in a good way. other peoples children!!!!
@@incredible5587 Life's too short, but thanks for the support.
fascinated . love the way they connected with so much chemistry and humor. I had so much fun so interesting and funny love you guys
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Have you seen the Dolphins? *Gives Pause* lol. Dude you have the best conversations with some the most interesting people around.
@Replied • by Lex fridman• 🥱 edit: poor soul
What a great podcast! Congrats Lex and Konstantin! I loved it :D
Absolutely fascinating-thanks for this Lex and Konstantine.
I am loving the guests and subjects you're covering.
Great podcast I enjoyed it. That vocal fry was in full effect.
The Noam Chomsky of astrophysics
Oh heck ya! I've listened to Konstantin Batygin on veritasium. Always wanted more.
I was wondering where I remembered him from
There is also this ua-cam.com/video/jcu581GBmPs/v-deo.html (if you know Russian, but I believe it also has subtitles)
Loved listening to you both. ❤️ great podcast, as usual!