Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Zero Fasting: go.zerofasting.com/s/lex-promo to get 30% off annual subscription - LMNT: drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack - Sun Basket: sunbasket.com/lex and use code LEX to get $35 off - Pessimists Archive: pessimists.co/ 2:31 - Are we alone in the universe? 6:46 - Consciousness 11:23 - Sending digital copies of humans to space 16:01 - Oumuamua 38:04 - Alien space junk 42:03 - What do aliens look like? 59:21 - Drake equation 1:00:23 - Industrial polution from aliens 1:12:15 - UFO sightings 1:20:11 - How long will human civilization last? 1:22:51 - Radio signal from Proxima Centauri 1:26:12 - Breakthrough Starshot project 1:29:11 - Space race 1:34:22 - Human space exploration 1:39:38 - Social media is a threat to society 1:44:26 - Are humans ready for discovering an alien civilization? 1:48:38 - Mayans used astrology to wage war 1:49:53 - Black holes 2:08:43 - Stephen Hawking 2:12:21 - Grigori Perelman 2:16:46 - Theory of everything 2:23:45 - Dark matter 2:26:28 - Advice for young people 2:29:32 - Memories of my father and mother 2:34:01 - Existentialism 2:36:15 - Mortality 2:38:49 - Meaning of life
Cant wait till you say “This next guest is one of the greatest future thinkers of our age, he is alternatively educated but perhaps he is one of the most intelligent humans living on the planet. He can describe, with unmatched articulation, the intricacies of our current state of global affairs, the war on sensemaking, mankind as a paperclip optimizer, and revolutionary new ideas on politics and economics.” Without further ado, Daniel Schmachtenberger!!
He is the Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science at Harvard University Longest serving Chair of Harvard's Department of Astronomy, Founding Director of Harvard's Black Hole Initiative and Director of the Institute for Theory and Computation, within the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences In July 2018, he was appointed as chair of the Board on Physics and Astronomy of the National Academies, In June 2020, Loeb was sworn in as a member of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology at the White House. In 2012 Time magazine selected Loeb as one of the 25 most influential people in space. I guess as with most things "nobody really knows" is a relative term
Brilliant talk, Avi has a concise clear and beautiful way of communicating and storytelling. Fantastic guest, Lex continues to amaze with the quality of his lineups!
@@leonelmateus can u please tell me what’s event horizon is? I know this may seem like a dumb question but clearly, I’m not the sharpest cookie in the jar…. which is a bit of confusing hyperbole. 😉 Sharpest tool in the shed, brightest crayon in the box, brightest bulb in the bunch… those I get. But I understood what he was trying to say. It’s just amusing to me how geniuses often get these trite adages dead wrong. I’m assuming it’s most likely do to a translation issue. Or just the basic fact that it’s simply not important enough to warrant anymore of the mental energy that he clearly uses exponentially more than the average thinker, professor, student, human being.
I love how Avi, a man who comes from the highest level of academia, is so open, modest, and humble with his way of thinking... Lex has really created and developed one of the best podcast's, at least on our planet 😉 😉
@@MoraleToad It was an opinion, Felix. I think you think he is making a factual argument but you have to also take into account his tone and the context of it being a youtube comment. Don't take everything so seriously.
Wow, Lex! You're getting all the big names on the show talking about all the great topics we all want to learn more about. Congratulations, Man! Well done! Keep up the good work!
Loeb's mindset is far beyond most of the scientific community. He is not only a great professional, but a wise and a humble person. I wish our world's leaders were like him. Thanks for this amazing episode Mr. Fridman.
Best guest ever. This guy is my favorite scientist. I love how much he has sacrificed because of his convictions. He's the black sheep of the scientific community now but we'll see how long that lasts. I'm sure he'll be proven right later on
@Bootamate at least proven right that with a more open view of possibilities and parameters for finding life there will be a higher likelyhood of making more discoveries in general regardless of whether they are life or not.
He is such an infinitely likable human being and the best creator of analogies I’ve ever seen. Even myself, someone not very well educated in maths and science, could understand and completely enjoy this conversation. His theories gave me a wonderful sense of wonder and I wish him the best of health and happiness.
I am saddened for humanity. every secret of the universe was revealed 1,400 years ago in a book called the QURAN. and people are still wasting time reinventing the wheel. SAD.
@@antisocialdistancing3 It's pretty vague, are you suggesting that the deaths from covid are fake and it's a conspiracy theory ? I understand the statistics are exaggerated.
@@schuylerhaussmann6877 Yeah so many do that these days. Give your opinion on 1 subject and people seem to know what kind of life you are living. Like, what the hell xD
This man is one of the greatest human beings ive seen.So smart, educated, well respected, Professor in Harvard , Director in so many fields of the Astronomy Science and at the same time so openminded, willing to educate everyone and continue the promotion of our understanding of the universe and our nature. His vibe is unmatched
"We are not the sharpest cookies in the jar" 🤣 I love a good mangled metaphor. The fact that he absolutely nailed us humans at the same time is a bonus.
This guy is AWESOME. So nice to hear some positivity and passion and excitement in a science field that isn't filled with cynicism and squashing dreams. Even if he's wrong about ʻOumuamua, he delivers tons of inspiration.
@@marcdellorusso180 credentials don’t make a claim true. The science community is pushing back a lot on it and honestly I don’t really agree that just because it doesn’t fit typical models of asteroids and comets that it’s therefore necessarily artificial. That said I respect his opinion and looking forward to further development.
Seriously... stop uploading these unbelievably interesting podcasts at bedtime! We need our sleep! I actually waited till morning to start listening. I have no idea how.
One of my all-time favourite podcasts. I went back and found this again after a full year since first viewing it. I did so to share it with my daughter who is finishing her physics degree, to remind her - and myself - to always remember the childlike beauty of discovery.
@Mario Gonzalez Evolution has no direction. Evolution doesn't mean "better." it means "adapted to the environment due to environmental changes. Please view "Robert Sapolsky's Heartland interview". Most scientists are bought off or threatened by Majestic 12. Peace.☮️ Please view Dr. Steven Greer's "Expose National Security State" on UA-cam.
@@Auburndad50 What a well written response. I guess it went a lot of your mental capacity to put those profound thoughts together in a sentence. Like Trump
Check out him speaking with theoretical physicist Sean Carroll on his podcast, Mindscape. Just fantastic. Sean is Research Professor of Physics at Caltech, and External Professor at the Santa Fe Institute. Great minds.
@@andersask5503 You must have a lot of friends being this condescending. Respect others opinion even though you might not agree with their viewpoint, as they have just as much rights as you do.
Listening to this guy is so refreshing... sometimes i have the feeling theoretical astrophysicists like not to be understood, wants to keep and underline their distance. Then you find scientists like him with a positive and really divulgative attitude and you make peace with such a difficult matter as cosmology and astrophysics. Hell yeah! Nice host, nice guest, interesting podcast!
Fantastic advice near the end. There are far too many "experts" who care more about their own ego than the scientific pursuit. All they do is shut down new ways of thinking, and turn people off with their snobby eliteness. It's a real shame that so many of those types are in positions of power in the academic world.
I think not having a ego is a big part of science also not letting society our other minds pullot your brain nowadays everything is layed out information is everywhere every second of the day at any time it really makes it hard to come up with your own theories...It would seem science would be better nowadays but is it really?Technology is better but are scientists and the mind really better?They still don't no half of what Einstein,Tesla,Newton,Darwin and many others knew these scientists nowadays are studying scientists from hundreds of years ago imagine what those guys could do with today's technology and funding its amazing to think how smart these guys where.Im just saying I don't think todays scientists have a free mind its almost programed weather thats good our bad I don't no?
I think though that there are very many enthusiasts who really think that an alien culture has already been found or that Sumerians found some; so the scientists are just trying to pull us back a little. Finding the truth is difficult, and even scientists would like to believe that we might come across aliens some day. We forget that on Earth, to get to an intelligent human being from the beginning of life, it took thousands of millions of years. We could make thousands of silly mistakes and pollute the Moon, or the Planets, if we went out into space. Also it takes a long time to cross the universe, and our lives are not long enough to go very far. These are just a few of the problems I have just mentioned of course. I used to try to find Aliens when I was 13 years old, by looking through an old gunsights propped up in the garden. I got excited by what turned out to be a weather balloon! Hehe!!!Cynthia McLaglen
@Ricky Ricky I doubt they're actually left wing. They might be a majority liberal, but how many are actually farther left than that? And in red states I'm sure there are more conservative professors. So your comment lacks seems to lack logic and foundation. Are you suggesting that professors to the left of conservatives are more likely to be egotistical and shut down new ways of thinking? That's strange, because conservatives shut down new ways of thinking by nature. It's in the very word "conservatism". Conserve traditional values/ keep things the way they are. When it's not those, conservatives fight to regress to times that were less humane, or things that hurt the working class while giving a nice boost in pay to the rich. So if you can provide any evidence that conservative professors and academics don't have similar egos on average than to liberal ones then I'd be glad to read it. If actual leftists were included in the study that would be especially interesting since true leftists care about the well-being of everyone, and making sure everyone gets equal opportunity to succeed.
in high school I had a Latin teacher who was one of the most prominent italian archaeologists who worked for the Vatican, his name was Paolo Visona, and it's ridiculous how much he was Avi's lost twin! lmao. I swear they are literally clones. I still have no clue what the hell he was doing teaching high school latin.... I know it was only a couple years and I think he went back to studying secrets in the vatican archives... I just got insanely lucky i guess.
Revisiting this cast. I actually love this guy Avi Leob. He's a great listen and very insightful - besides his intelligence he's just an all round great and good human being.
many of his guests don't appreciate the level of open minded listening that Lex offers to them as the host willing to show them at the best they can appear to the audience.
Thank you Lex for giving us a chance to listen to brightest minds in the world for 2+ hours, for your interviewing genius full of your own insights and the ability to listen to your guests. This podcast is a world's treasure. And as for the guest...I am speechless not only because of his scientific brilliance but also his down-to-earth character and sense of humour. Keep up the good work!
I too am truly grateful that a man like Avi Loeb is in the position he is in the scientific and academic communities. One of the best podcasts I have ever heard. Thank you Lex!
@@arlen1630 even if you contribute nothing it would still be more beneficial than what this guy is doing. name a single contribution or paper that he has done that has benefitted humanity in the last 10 years. or do you only know him from the podcasts he goes on with the sole purpose of shilling his shitty pseudoscience books? simpleton.
He really broke everything down so well. His point of view has always felt like commons sense to me and I never understood why the smartest people in the world can't see it that way as well. Too much ego in science. Sad state of affairs. It holds back true progress.
I don’t know how I found this podcast, half the time I don’t understand what I’m hearing, but I’m learning soooo much ❤️❤️❤️❤️ it was meant to be. This was so inspiring to continue learning
Thank you for the content Lex, i work 3rd shift and your podcasts make some really boring nights interesting and exciting. You are very much appreciated sir.
Killer interview. Love Avi, especially his open mind, scientific discipline, and youthful POV on exploring new frontiers. He's one of the rare members of the scientific elite who lives up to the spirit of Feynman. Thanks Lex!!!
Are you joking! He's the exact opposite of Feynman! He would have wiped the floor with this guy, who's just a low level self promoter. Just the kind that alien fans fall for.
It's good, but he missed a lot of other important topics about possible alien live Avi covers....most importantly the Venus Clouds. He wasn't prepared at all.
Lex, I’m incredibly thankful for this podcast and the one way friendship I’ve had the opportunity to develop with you throughout the past year. If you ever get the chance, I think you’d enjoy talking to Michael Levin, Jaron Lanier, and Giulio Tononi. Keep making incredible content and spreading positivity!
This CD has three separate relaxation/meditation sessions on it ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq guided by a very pleasant and direct male voice. Unlike so many other products of its type, this CD does not have bad synthesizer music, does not feature a phony or affected style of narration, and does not make any bogus claims to be subliminal or to re-train the brain or any of that balderdash. What you get is 1. a guided meditation for getting into a pleasantly relaxed state of body awareness while taking a stroll (superb for those easing back into a fitness routine slowly after an illness or injury) 2. A nice long breath-awareness relaxation session that if followed diligently can put you into very deep states of full-body relaxation and mental calmness, and 3. a buddhist-inspired meditation session designed to help you develop and maintain feelings of loving kindness toward not just yourself and your friends, but toward people you don't even like. The CD makes no claims to be designed for advanced meditators or for buddhists or hindus/yoga practitioners looking for very deep and esoteric stuff. It is geared more toward the average person who just wants to develop the habit of relaxation and stress relief through natural, healthy means. him, if you happen to be reading this, keep up the good work fella, and I love your accent. I would also like to note that I have never fallen asleep while listening to this product. I would like to kindly suggest to the reviewer who said this CD makes him fall asleep, that he might want to get checked to see if he has a sleep disorder, or if he is simply not setting aside ample time for restful sleep at night. A healthy person getting adequate rest at night should be able to go into deep states of mental relaxation without dozing off, if not all the time, then most of the time.
This is the second time I’ve listened to this particular podcast with Avi Loeb. Such good stuff. What a joy! I know I will listen again in a little while. I feel I have learned from Avi that the real meaning and purpose of life is - in the short time that is allowed to each of us - to experience and learn about the awe and wonder of as much of the universe as we possibly can and pass that on to those who follow us so that they can take us further in a future of expanding knowledge, understanding, and - yes - joy.
I love how Avi takes the gist of the question and runs with it, before waiting for Lex to finish phrasing and paraphrasing it.. Really helps keep the level of engagement going, imo
Avi Loeb is one of my favorite if not my favorite people that do these interviews. He is so very smart, yet elegantly explains things in ways just about everyone can understand. Also he really makes you think about things in ways Most of us would not think about had he not thrown these ideas out there.
There is no way around but to love Avi Loeb’s personality. I can imagine that he upsets some of his colleagues with his childlike, passionate, fearless approach. They wish they could be more like him. He is so intelligent and at the same time humble. He is the perfect scientist. I never get tired of listening to him. I wish he had a full series of lectures for science interested people.
Agreed. 💯 His books are so interesting as well. "Extraterrestrial" got me through a months-long ordeal. We love these open minds!! Aren't they inspirational? 🤖🧡
The dominant metaphor in this interview is, "Reality doesn't care whether you ignore it or not. You can ignore reality, but it is still there." Brilliant mind!
True that. "Reality is real. it's important for you to see Reality the way it really is."-Dad RIP. Pops was a founder of Control Data along with Seymour Cray. Control Data company fell apart when Seymour Cray left Control Data to found his own Super Computer company. Cray Super Computers. Modern Smartphones are as powerful as 1980's Super Computers. You can run simulations on them such as The Sims a people simulation and Cells to Singularity an evolution simulation that plays off the the ideas of Simulation Theory and the AI Singularity.
“What is real. How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
Just finished Avi’s book last week, it was excellent. I enjoyed learning about his childhood and the pecan trees. I love pecan pie. I also love that this object passed through earths orbit on my birthday 2017, and we didn’t even know until a few days later when it was leaving. I always thought my birthday was special 10/07/77 but somehow this made it that much better.
I’m not saying Lex isn’t great, but literally every time I watch any video when auto play is on, the next video is always a Lex Fridman podcast. Every single time
It s pushed. I feel the same. This is not the only good content on the platform but it seems they wanna give him an advantage over other contents. Not fair
I have to have my auto play off, it wouldn't just play the same channel's video, it would play the EXACT SAME video every single time. Autoplay is broken as fuck.
This is going to be a fun one. Dr. Loeb is SUCH an interesting and creative thinker. I always learn something new. Lectures aside, this might be the longest podcast I've seen him do. I can't wait!!
@@TasX wow. Color me amazed. A UA-cam video. I’m supposed to sit through an hour of that to decide if you are shitposting or not? I’ll get right on it.
@@GenikaXVI Well Joe IMO is still up there but Lex is rising real quick and will eventually get the top spot especially since Joe is no longer fully on UA-cam. Lex has this style of not interupting his guests as they speak plus him being an engineer is able to really get the best out of his guests a good number of whom are scientists and engineers. He will have to start bringing on a lot more celebrities and internet stars from diverse backgrounds to fully claim that top spot but that is something I dont think he is really interested in. But hey who knows???
Not necessarily. The spontaneous formation of life from non living matter may be such a stupendously improbable event that it has only happened once in the history of the universe, on Earth.
It's refreshing to hear a scientist, Avi Loeb, Harvard’s top astronomer saying this. For the skeptics, I will quote the following: All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
I started as a kid wanting to be a scientist and that was my aim leaving high school, but then I got sidetracked by my music studies and ended up first as a conservatory teacher and then as a music therapist for all my career. I always had a casual interest in the paranormal, and as I've got older I've become much more interested in it and metaphysics. I still love science. I see no reason for there to be any contradiction in the fields. I'm so happy to have stumbled across your channel and this video today. Subscribed to the podcast (and here, for support), since I generally **listen*" to videos.
Avi, despite your apparent side-lining of approvals and accolades, as a layman the lifestyle markers you value ring true and are held in high esteem by this hermit of the woods. A pleasure to hear you interact with Lex and to witness your verve.
Hi, you're the only commenter mentioning the book (just bought it- haven't read it) what did you think of it? I saw some UK Amazon reviews pointing out the "2 autobiographical chapters" or potential "arrogance" of the Author and I was concerned. I think and hope its because he's a new voice to the mainstream under pressure to introduce himself to us and that he really gets into his theories! Also I found some of the reviews saying "he just kept talking about israel" a little low key anti semitic because if it was any other obscure country these same reviewers would be begging to know more 'muh exotic culture- Sushi roll and meditation types 😄" However, nobody likes a preachy person and if I want a book about Israel I'll read it! Please tell me it talks a lot more about the theories 🤞
@@telsutton He never claimed it to be a fact. I mean, wasn't it obvious? I genuinely do not understand how exactly you managed to interpret it this way.
Lex thank you for letting him talk a lot :-) Unbelievably inspiring to listen to Avi Loeb talking about cutting down bureaucracy and ego, and what cannot be done, and focusing on what CAN BE done!
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0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
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2:31 - Are we alone in the universe?
6:46 - Consciousness
11:23 - Sending digital copies of humans to space
16:01 - Oumuamua
38:04 - Alien space junk
42:03 - What do aliens look like?
59:21 - Drake equation
1:00:23 - Industrial polution from aliens
1:12:15 - UFO sightings
1:20:11 - How long will human civilization last?
1:22:51 - Radio signal from Proxima Centauri
1:26:12 - Breakthrough Starshot project
1:29:11 - Space race
1:34:22 - Human space exploration
1:39:38 - Social media is a threat to society
1:44:26 - Are humans ready for discovering an alien civilization?
1:48:38 - Mayans used astrology to wage war
1:49:53 - Black holes
2:08:43 - Stephen Hawking
2:12:21 - Grigori Perelman
2:16:46 - Theory of everything
2:23:45 - Dark matter
2:26:28 - Advice for young people
2:29:32 - Memories of my father and mother
2:34:01 - Existentialism
2:36:15 - Mortality
2:38:49 - Meaning of life
Don't need em I'm going to watch to it's full extent.
At what time does he talk about Bob lazar
Gonna check out the lmnt recharge sample pack, thanks 🤙
Cant wait till you say “This next guest is one of the greatest future thinkers of our age, he is alternatively educated but perhaps he is one of the most intelligent humans living on the planet. He can describe, with unmatched articulation, the intricacies of our current state of global affairs, the war on sensemaking, mankind as a paperclip optimizer, and revolutionary new ideas on politics and economics.” Without further ado, Daniel Schmachtenberger!!
You're damn right it is. Love to see it
This is the best type of guest for your show imo.
Really unique, slightly eccentric, extremely smart, and someone nobody really knows
He is the
Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science at Harvard University
Longest serving Chair of Harvard's Department of Astronomy,
Founding Director of Harvard's Black Hole Initiative and Director of the Institute for Theory and Computation,
within the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.
fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences
In July 2018, he was appointed as chair of the Board on Physics and Astronomy of the National Academies,
In June 2020, Loeb was sworn in as a member of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology at the White House.
In 2012 Time magazine selected Loeb as one of the 25 most influential people in space.
I guess as with most things "nobody really knows" is a relative term
@@TheNguyenGiap it is. and i dont think he minds much lol.
@@terminsane yes he doesn´t care about all the official stuff he is a true scientist
@@TheNguyenGiap thats how we all should be. Just imagine, it would be a better World to live in
Couldn’t agree more
I'm starting to feel like Rogan was training his apprentice when looking back at the Lex episodes.... Joe, we miss you, but Lex is the Captain now.
Lex has definitely filled the void rogan left ..i like his relaxed way of chatting
you thought Rogan was the Captain to begin with? cringe
Lex is Joe Rogan for intelectuals.
@@mrgman3229 what void? you know spotify has video and no ads, too, right?
@GaRdZ how so?
Brilliant talk, Avi has a concise clear and beautiful way of communicating and storytelling. Fantastic guest, Lex continues to amaze with the quality of his lineups!
@@theprotagonist6863 he's a sharp cookies. He is my favourite, I enjoy his interviews on Event Horizon.
@@leonelmateus yeah I’m yuy m I
@@leonelmateus can u please tell me what’s event horizon is? I know this may seem like a dumb question but clearly, I’m not the sharpest cookie in the jar…. which is a bit of confusing hyperbole. 😉 Sharpest tool in the shed, brightest crayon in the box, brightest bulb in the bunch… those I get. But I understood what he was trying to say. It’s just amusing to me how geniuses often get these trite adages dead wrong. I’m assuming it’s most likely do to a translation issue. Or just the basic fact that it’s simply not important enough to warrant anymore of the mental energy that he clearly uses exponentially more than the average thinker, professor, student, human being.
Agreed!
@@bridgetmcanany ... Hi, Bridge; an event horizon is the point at which matter is permanently caught and unable to esscape from a black hole ...
I love how Avi, a man who comes from the highest level of academia, is so open, modest, and humble with his way of thinking... Lex has really created and developed one of the best podcast's, at least on our planet 😉 😉
I agree also the fact that he’s not so uptight & is funny!
@@Seanonyoutube 6sys
yeah, this is miles ahead of Joe R
@@Seanonyoutube link?
@@teresabeekind5899 Its up on interdimensional cable
This was a top 10 episode for sure!
We can’t just have a consensus on that. Experiment needs to be done and then we can agree because it’s key to have feedback from reality.
@@MoraleToad It was an opinion, Felix. I think you think he is making a factual argument but you have to also take into account his tone and the context of it being a youtube comment. Don't take everything so seriously.
@@minjunesong6667 hope we are both joking
Definitely top 10!
@@minjunesong6667 he was joking.....
Wow, Lex! You're getting all the big names on the show talking about all the great topics we all want to learn more about. Congratulations, Man! Well done! Keep up the good work!
Loeb's mindset is far beyond most of the scientific community. He is not only a great professional, but a wise and a humble person. I wish our world's leaders were like him.
Thanks for this amazing episode Mr. Fridman.
Best guest ever. This guy is my favorite scientist. I love how much he has sacrificed because of his convictions. He's the black sheep of the scientific community now but we'll see how long that lasts. I'm sure he'll be proven right later on
Hes has opened my mind to questions I never even thought about and im a pretty inquisitive person.
@Bootamate at least proven right that with a more open view of possibilities and parameters for finding life there will be a higher likelyhood of making more discoveries in general regardless of whether they are life or not.
@@justinmodessa5444 indeed, try to imagine the things we WON'T discover if we decline to conduct the search.
@@Daniel145D I'm only about 30 minutes into the podcast but he seems extremely intelligent, coherent and well spoken
Brought me back. Lex dun fell on since rogan sold out.
*Bar-none, Lex is one of the best Interviewers in the Biz. This episode with Mr. Loeb is extra special.*
He is such an infinitely likable human being and the best creator of analogies I’ve ever seen. Even myself, someone not very well educated in maths and science, could understand and completely enjoy this conversation. His theories gave me a wonderful sense of wonder and I wish him the best of health and happiness.
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Ok love 😊 ok
I am saddened for humanity. every secret of the universe was revealed 1,400 years ago in a book called the QURAN. and people are still wasting time reinventing the wheel. SAD.
This interview will age like fine wine.
@Lex Fridman these bots are getting good
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Or yoghurt.
Avi.. one of my today heroes. He doesn’t care about getting prizes… he’ll be remembered as one of the greatest minds ever!!
If this guy is your hero??? Then you are a zero 0️⃣
“You can’t be arrogant if you see the big picture” Avi Loeb is the best. Great show Lex
You can’t be arrogant if you see it correct?
Then logically you can’t be arrogant if you see it so the premise of your question is irrelevant
Rephrase it like
you can’t be hungry if you’re full
And you ask could you be full if you’re hungry? 🤣🤣🤣
You must fail into the same traps if you can’t see it
Came here from JRE clip. I was too lazy to make my way to Spotify. Lex for the win.
Ditto
Well I heard him on Event Horizon 1st, then JRE. I'm guessing you get the same message from this as the other two were essentially identical.
he basically said the exact same things on JRE, almost one for one
same
I would say you leveled up
Lex's Podcasts are way more interesting and engaging than any of my lectures.. Wish I could get a degree in Lexology lol
Lex should start a digital university!
I’m going back and catching the podcasts from years back. I thoroughly enjoyed this one. Such a charming man!
Spot on.
Avi is definitely one of my favourite guests. He’s so funny too!
He's truly impressive, he's also appeared on the JRE. More Avi == happy life :D
Lee and Avi both push covid death govt narrative
@@antisocialdistancing3 Sorry, what do you mean ?
@@arobot4398 What I wrote
@@antisocialdistancing3 It's pretty vague, are you suggesting that the deaths from covid are fake and it's a conspiracy theory ? I understand the statistics are exaggerated.
Such a refreshing man to listen to in today's human cesspool. Thanks for bringing him Lex.
@Bootamate That's quite an assumption to make of a man from two sentences on a youtube video. All the best to you.
I agree.
@Bootamate I would love to hear you expand on that. If you are able. Cause what you posted is not only intellectually stunted but inane.
@@schuylerhaussmann6877 Yeah so many do that these days. Give your opinion on 1 subject and people seem to know what kind of life you are living. Like, what the hell xD
This man is one of the greatest human beings ive seen.So smart, educated, well respected, Professor in Harvard , Director in so many fields of the Astronomy Science and at the same time so openminded, willing to educate everyone and continue the promotion of our understanding of the universe and our nature. His vibe is unmatched
I will get on the alien spaceship
Such an amazing and refreshing human. Can’t help but be inspired and in awe of Avi Loeb.
Right? Much better than those boring Gerbils he interviews sometimes.
He is a nut job and you are a nut lover
It is rare to come across people as present as Avi. Thank you Lex, for a brilliant podcast episode.
I love how Avi Loebs voice squeaks the more excited he gets and he's excited most of the time! Another great interview!
"We are not the sharpest cookies in the jar" 🤣 I love a good mangled metaphor. The fact that he absolutely nailed us humans at the same time is a bonus.
So fantastic!
Mangalore?
LOL...Or the brightest light in the shed!
@@torimartin1477 naw.. my shed has lights.
how about the 'sharpest tool on the tree' ?
He really butchered that metaphor, like come on, it isn’t rocket surgery!
This is one of the best podcast episodes I’ve ever listened to. I’m so happy this conversation happened.
This guy is AWESOME. So nice to hear some positivity and passion and excitement in a science field that isn't filled with cynicism and squashing dreams. Even if he's wrong about ʻOumuamua, he delivers tons of inspiration.
Yessss. A wonderful personality.
YES! So much needed excitement and passion. This is the best part of the human species.
I don't think he can be wrong about Oumuamua.
He's probably right, considering his credentials.
@@marcdellorusso180 credentials don’t make a claim true. The science community is pushing back a lot on it and honestly I don’t really agree that just because it doesn’t fit typical models of asteroids and comets that it’s therefore necessarily artificial. That said I respect his opinion and looking forward to further development.
Well, I was going to go to sleep... but I guess I can go to bed in 3 hours.
Fuck I was about to go to bed too
where you guys from? Its 7:am over here lol
@@karniskavva Michigan, USA. Hats off to all the Lex-tronauts listening out there!
Say that again lol
Seriously... stop uploading these unbelievably interesting podcasts at bedtime! We need our sleep! I actually waited till morning to start listening. I have no idea how.
One of my all-time favourite podcasts. I went back and found this again after a full year since first viewing it. I did so to share it with my daughter who is finishing her physics degree, to remind her - and myself - to always remember the childlike beauty of discovery.
👍
Brit here . Found lex about a month ago , put these podcasts on everynight for bedtime now
Fucking same dude lmao
Portuguese here. Interesting podcasts🎉
Makes 2 of us 😂
Same in Austria!
Idk if that's a compliment or not lmaoooo
“If you step on the grass, it will not grow” such an eloquent metaphor regarding the restriction of open mindedness
Ah no it's about grass.... Stupid
@@bonnypop5764 that metaphor is for people like you
Grass grows through concrete.
Open minded societies also open themselves up to new, extremely harmful ideas, however.
@Mario Gonzalez Evolution has no direction. Evolution doesn't mean "better." it means "adapted to the environment due to environmental changes. Please view "Robert Sapolsky's Heartland interview". Most scientists are bought off or threatened by Majestic 12. Peace.☮️
Please view Dr. Steven Greer's "Expose National Security State" on UA-cam.
Just love Avi. He dares to speak his mind even when it goes against the established science community.
Like Trump.
@@Auburndad50 What a well written response. I guess it went a lot of your mental capacity to put those profound thoughts together in a sentence.
Like Trump
@@andersask5503 Thank you
Check out him speaking with theoretical physicist Sean Carroll on his podcast, Mindscape. Just fantastic. Sean is Research Professor of Physics at Caltech, and External Professor at the Santa Fe Institute.
Great minds.
@@andersask5503 You must have a lot of friends being this condescending. Respect others opinion even though you might not agree with their viewpoint, as they have just as much rights as you do.
I love the way this guy talks - so emphatic, logical, & fun!
Listening to this guy is so refreshing... sometimes i have the feeling theoretical astrophysicists like not to be understood, wants to keep and underline their distance. Then you find scientists like him with a positive and really divulgative attitude and you make peace with such a difficult matter as cosmology and astrophysics. Hell yeah! Nice host, nice guest, interesting podcast!
Fantastic advice near the end. There are far too many "experts" who care more about their own ego than the scientific pursuit. All they do is shut down new ways of thinking, and turn people off with their snobby eliteness. It's a real shame that so many of those types are in positions of power in the academic world.
I think not having a ego is a big part of science also not letting society our other minds pullot your brain nowadays everything is layed out information is everywhere every second of the day at any time it really makes it hard to come up with your own theories...It would seem science would be better nowadays but is it really?Technology is better but are scientists and the mind really better?They still don't no half of what Einstein,Tesla,Newton,Darwin and many others knew these scientists nowadays are studying scientists from hundreds of years ago imagine what those guys could do with today's technology and funding its amazing to think how smart these guys where.Im just saying I don't think todays scientists have a free mind its almost programed weather thats good our bad I don't no?
I think though that there are very many enthusiasts who really think that an alien culture has already been found or that Sumerians found some; so the scientists are just trying to pull us back a little. Finding the truth is difficult, and even scientists would like to believe that we might come across aliens some day. We forget that on Earth, to get to an intelligent human being from the beginning of life, it took thousands of millions of years. We could make thousands of silly mistakes and pollute the Moon, or the Planets, if we went out into space. Also it takes a long time to cross the universe, and our lives are not long enough to go very far. These are just a few of the problems I have just mentioned of course. I used to try to find Aliens when I was 13 years old, by looking through an old gunsights propped up in the garden. I got excited by what turned out to be a weather balloon! Hehe!!!Cynthia McLaglen
He too has a blind spot regarding the UFO phenomena. If he can make the deduction that Omuramura is an alien artifact then what about UFOs?
Not just the academic world.
@Ricky Ricky I doubt they're actually left wing. They might be a majority liberal, but how many are actually farther left than that? And in red states I'm sure there are more conservative professors. So your comment lacks seems to lack logic and foundation. Are you suggesting that professors to the left of conservatives are more likely to be egotistical and shut down new ways of thinking? That's strange, because conservatives shut down new ways of thinking by nature. It's in the very word "conservatism". Conserve traditional values/ keep things the way they are. When it's not those, conservatives fight to regress to times that were less humane, or things that hurt the working class while giving a nice boost in pay to the rich.
So if you can provide any evidence that conservative professors and academics don't have similar egos on average than to liberal ones then I'd be glad to read it. If actual leftists were included in the study that would be especially interesting since true leftists care about the well-being of everyone, and making sure everyone gets equal opportunity to succeed.
I wish I had such a professor during my studies, one of the best podcasts ever!
in high school I had a Latin teacher who was one of the most prominent italian archaeologists who worked for the Vatican, his name was Paolo Visona, and it's ridiculous how much he was Avi's lost twin! lmao. I swear they are literally clones. I still have no clue what the hell he was doing teaching high school latin.... I know it was only a couple years and I think he went back to studying secrets in the vatican archives... I just got insanely lucky i guess.
@@nostalgiaarcadefuture maybe he was some secret agent of Vatican, who teaching by day and killing demon by casting ancient spells by nights
@@nostalgiaarcadefuturethat’s crazy do u have an IG so I could ask u more
I love how he timestamps them
same
Revisiting this cast. I actually love this guy Avi Leob. He's a great listen and very insightful - besides his intelligence he's just an all round great and good human being.
The same cannot be said for most of Lexs fascist guests
many of his guests don't appreciate the level of open minded listening that Lex offers to them as the host willing to show them at the best they can appear to the audience.
@@albondebstay in your mud huts 🛖
That Wall-E figurine next to Avi is just perfect.
This guy makes so many genius points. Best guest ever.
I want to see Avi Loeb talking like this with Joscha Bach about reality, philosophy and everything.
I agree. Checking for pollution in an exoplanet atmosphere is brilliant.
One of the most interesting guests so far. thanks
Thank you Lex for giving us a chance to listen to brightest minds in the world for 2+ hours, for your interviewing genius full of your own insights and the ability to listen to your guests. This podcast is a world's treasure. And as for the guest...I am speechless not only because of his scientific brilliance but also his down-to-earth character and sense of humour. Keep up the good work!
I too am truly grateful that a man like Avi Loeb is in the position he is in the scientific and academic communities. One of the best podcasts I have ever heard. Thank you Lex!
quacks in important scientific positions..... what has the world come to......
@@newuser689just wondering do you think you could add to this array of talent.....or are you just venting?
@@arlen1630 even if you contribute nothing it would still be more beneficial than what this guy is doing. name a single contribution or paper that he has done that has benefitted humanity in the last 10 years. or do you only know him from the podcasts he goes on with the sole purpose of shilling his shitty pseudoscience books? simpleton.
Now that Rogan is on Spotashit....Lex will get all the UA-cam traffic !!
He really broke everything down so well. His point of view has always felt like commons sense to me and I never understood why the smartest people in the world can't see it that way as well. Too much ego in science. Sad state of affairs. It holds back true progress.
I don’t know how I found this podcast, half the time I don’t understand what I’m hearing, but I’m learning soooo much ❤️❤️❤️❤️ it was meant to be. This was so inspiring to continue learning
Hell yeah
I just finished listening to this on Spotify and now I’m watching it here, that’s how good this episode was!
loyalty, loyalty, loo-oyalty
One of the finest interviews I have ever watched.
Thank you for the content Lex, i work 3rd shift and your podcasts make some really boring nights interesting and exciting. You are very much appreciated sir.
Same!
Heh! I am listening to it now while baking.
Prof. Loeb is such an interesting guest. What a lecture, what a passion for the topic. You can clearly see almost a childish enthusiasm in his eyes.
Killer interview. Love Avi, especially his open mind, scientific discipline, and youthful POV on exploring new frontiers. He's one of the rare members of the scientific elite who lives up to the spirit of Feynman. Thanks Lex!!!
Well put man!
Are you joking! He's the exact opposite of Feynman! He would have wiped the floor with this guy, who's just a low level self promoter. Just the kind that alien fans fall for.
I really like how it's "segmented" with labels on the general topic in that part. More people should do that.
most quality youtubers do this
Like chapters in a book
It's good, but he missed a lot of other important topics about possible alien live Avi covers....most importantly the Venus Clouds. He wasn't prepared at all.
“Sharpest cookie in the jar”
🤭🤣😂
might have wanted to avoid saying knife in case it would hurt monetisation
no wonder my mouth is bleeding.....
Really. Seem like common sense
The fuzziest crayon in the box.
The way avi thinks is fascinatingly amazing and his opinions on the media and science is life changing
Another banger from LEX
Lex, I’m incredibly thankful for this podcast and the one way friendship I’ve had the opportunity to develop with you throughout the past year. If you ever get the chance, I think you’d enjoy talking to Michael Levin, Jaron Lanier, and Giulio Tononi. Keep making incredible content and spreading positivity!
very nice comment! i fully agree
I absolutely loved this interview! Avi explained everything brilliantly. We need more people like him!
This is the best Avi interview i have listened to. The two have good vibe going
I love this guy, he's exciting to listen to. Thanks Lex for your interviews, you're the best.
Love how open minded this guy is.
What a bloody courageous genius! Thank god you for his fearless intellect.
If only l of us can think this way. The world would be a better place.
This CD has three separate relaxation/meditation sessions on it ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq guided by a very pleasant and direct male voice. Unlike so many other products of its type, this CD does not have bad synthesizer music, does not feature a phony or affected style of narration, and does not make any bogus claims to be subliminal or to re-train the brain or any of that balderdash. What you get is 1. a guided meditation for getting into a pleasantly relaxed state of body awareness while taking a stroll (superb for those easing back into a fitness routine slowly after an illness or injury) 2. A nice long breath-awareness relaxation session that if followed diligently can put you into very deep states of full-body relaxation and mental calmness, and 3. a buddhist-inspired meditation session designed to help you develop and maintain feelings of loving kindness toward not just yourself and your friends, but toward people you don't even like. The CD makes no claims to be designed for advanced meditators or for buddhists or hindus/yoga practitioners looking for very deep and esoteric stuff. It is geared more toward the average person who just wants to develop the habit of relaxation and stress relief through natural, healthy means. him, if you happen to be reading this, keep up the good work fella, and I love your accent. I would also like to note that I have never fallen asleep while listening to this product. I would like to kindly suggest to the reviewer who said this CD makes him fall asleep, that he might want to get checked to see if he has a sleep disorder, or if he is simply not setting aside ample time for restful sleep at night. A healthy person getting adequate rest at night should be able to go into deep states of mental relaxation without dozing off, if not all the time, then most of the time.
This is the second time I’ve listened to this particular podcast with Avi Loeb. Such good stuff. What a joy! I know I will listen again in a little while. I feel I have learned from Avi that the real meaning and purpose of life is - in the short time that is allowed to each of us - to experience and learn about the awe and wonder of as much of the universe as we possibly can and pass that on to those who follow us so that they can take us further in a future of expanding knowledge, understanding, and - yes - joy.
I love how Avi takes the gist of the question and runs with it, before waiting for Lex to finish phrasing and paraphrasing it.. Really helps keep the level of engagement going, imo
Finally, a credible respected scientist with the BALLS to ask the alien question using the scientific method.
Avi Loeb is one of my favorite if not my favorite people that do these interviews. He is so very smart, yet elegantly explains things in ways just about everyone can understand. Also he really makes you think about things in ways Most of us would not think about had he not thrown these ideas out there.
Lex has officially surpassed jre as the highest quality interviewer. Please have on jacques vallee. Great job lex!
They’re tied in how high they sound on interviews.
They would just put each other to sleep
There is no way around but to love Avi Loeb’s personality. I can imagine that he upsets some of his colleagues with his childlike, passionate, fearless approach. They wish they could be more like him. He is so intelligent and at the same time humble. He is the perfect scientist. I never get tired of listening to him. I wish he had a full series of lectures for science interested people.
I listened to this on Spotify and watched it again on here 😂 this conversation is interesting enough it listen to multiple times.
Agreed. 💯 His books are so interesting as well. "Extraterrestrial" got me through a months-long ordeal. We love these open minds!! Aren't they inspirational? 🤖🧡
No one will read this but these two guys talking is totally my jam. I’m down 100% with these guys. Why not have the curiosity of a child? I love it.
The dominant metaphor in this interview is, "Reality doesn't care whether you ignore it or not. You can ignore reality, but it is still there."
Brilliant mind!
True that. "Reality is real. it's important for you to see Reality the way it really is."-Dad RIP. Pops was a founder of Control Data along with Seymour Cray. Control Data company fell apart when Seymour Cray left Control Data to found his own Super Computer company. Cray Super Computers. Modern Smartphones
are as powerful as 1980's Super Computers. You can run simulations on them such as The Sims a people simulation and Cells to Singularity an evolution simulation that plays off the the ideas of Simulation Theory and the AI Singularity.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” PKD
“What is real. How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
more like common sense
this guy is a legend. it's great we have open minded scientists like this
Can we give this brilliant humble and open minded man an infinite gofundme!!?!
No, he merely parrots decades old talking points brought to us by Carl Sagan. This man is an entertainer.
@@TOMBRADY-hu8gp No.
@@TOMBRADY-hu8gp always gotta have a few detractors.
Just finished Avi’s book last week, it was excellent. I enjoyed learning about his childhood and the pecan trees. I love pecan pie. I also love that this object passed through earths orbit on my birthday 2017, and we didn’t even know until a few days later when it was leaving. I always thought my birthday was special 10/07/77 but somehow this made it that much better.
Avi thanks you for your money.....
@@BumboLooks 🥴💩
I would think a pecan pie would be destroyed passing through our orbit.....now a pudding would
@@arlen1630 puddin’ lol
One of the best podcasts I've heard in a while. The more I listen to Lex the more I like him. Avi was a great guest.
what an incredibly intellegent and interesting guest. amazing.
Love this guest!! How can a person be so smart, and yet so humble at the same time? Well, I guess that describes Lex too! 😊👍
I’m not saying Lex isn’t great, but literally every time I watch any video when auto play is on, the next video is always a Lex Fridman podcast. Every single time
It s pushed. I feel the same. This is not the only good content on the platform but it seems they wanna give him an advantage over other contents. Not fair
@@WalkeeTalkeeMan It's strange that the top comment on a video with 3.7 million views has 10 likes...
@@WalkeeTalkeeMan The algorithm is working for me if it's only suggesting stuff I like and nothing that I don't. Perfection.
Came here through search, not subscribed and never get his videos recommended to me
I have to have my auto play off, it wouldn't just play the same channel's video, it would play the EXACT SAME video every single time. Autoplay is broken as fuck.
Loeb speaks with such enthusiasm in his voice!
This man’s enthusiasm about space is infectious. Great interview Lex. As always you deliver. It would be an honor to shake your hand someday.
I want my hand shook. Will you shake my hand?
This is going to be a fun one. Dr. Loeb is SUCH an interesting and creative thinker. I always learn something new. Lectures aside, this might be the longest podcast I've seen him do. I can't wait!!
This is my new favorite scientist. Asking the real questions, talking about aliens…I’m all in!
Your favorite scientist is a crackpot..
@@TasX you gonna elaborate or just dump brain feces and scoot away?
@@nomandad2000 nice taunt. Not gonna elaborate since there's already resources out thereua-cam.com/video/aY985qzn7oI/v-deo.html
@@TasX wow. Color me amazed. A UA-cam video. I’m supposed to sit through an hour of that to decide if you are shitposting or not? I’ll get right on it.
@@nomandad2000 well if you don't have the mental capacity for it then suit yourself. keep listening to who you want :)
One of the best podcasts I've ever watched begining to end.
Amen. Avi is enormously intelligent, humorous, and humble. I'm blessed to have caught this one...
same. got me locked on, what a brilliant mind and awesome human being. Lex created the best podcast, sorry Joe but you are second now kk
@@GenikaXVI Well Joe IMO is still up there but Lex is rising real quick and will eventually get the top spot especially since Joe is no longer fully on UA-cam. Lex has this style of not interupting his guests as they speak plus him being an engineer is able to really get the best out of his guests a good number of whom are scientists and engineers. He will have to start bringing on a lot more celebrities and internet stars from diverse backgrounds to fully claim that top spot but that is something I dont think he is really interested in. But hey who knows???
@@wilhelmhesse1348 number 1 doesn't have to be the most viewed ;)
@@GenikaXVI true
Best podcast on the Internet.
I hope you read the comments from time to time, Lex. Well done.
“If you are not ready to find wonderful things, you will never discover them”
@45:15
love that
Sameee❤
What an amazing guest. Please try and get him on again Lex!
he is a genius,,,!
Thanks for the time stamps. So refreshing to listen to an honest brilliant thinker not afraid to do a some of his thinking out loud
“We are not the sharpest cookie in the jar”
Great Rickyism
He does not know all our idioms. "We're not the sharpest tools in the shed," would have been a better paraphrase. Yes, I was in Honors English. LOL
He's kidding! Just like, "does the Pope shit in the woods?
@@emzywillrich7243 As a non-practicing former art student I sympathize. Your moment to shine 😅
Avi’s passion is intoxicating. He could convince me to believe anything.
Saying there’s no life or intelligent life is like getting a cup of sea water and saying there’s no fish in the ocean
Fish, like birds, aren’t real.
And ignoring the fact that the fish are going to see you approaching with that cup...
Stop quoting lil wayne.
If it was used, it'd be considered a gerund rather than a verb anyway.
Not necessarily. The spontaneous formation of life from non living matter may be such a stupendously improbable event that it has only happened once in the history of the universe, on Earth.
First Alex filipenko now Avi. Seriously my favorite podcast episodes of all time
@@daffidavit I was keeping aside that episode for later, now I'll have a listen David fravor.
It's refreshing to hear a scientist, Avi Loeb, Harvard’s top astronomer saying this. For the skeptics, I will quote the following: All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
And what stages do delusions pass through?
I started as a kid wanting to be a scientist and that was my aim leaving high school, but then I got sidetracked by my music studies and ended up first as a conservatory teacher and then as a music therapist for all my career.
I always had a casual interest in the paranormal, and as I've got older I've become much more interested in it and metaphysics.
I still love science. I see no reason for there to be any contradiction in the fields.
I'm so happy to have stumbled across your channel and this video today. Subscribed to the podcast (and here, for support), since I generally **listen*" to videos.
Saving this for my long drive...
One of the best episode ever!! Interesting interview!!! Keep up the good work Lex!!!
Avi, despite your apparent side-lining of approvals and accolades, as a layman the lifestyle markers you value ring true and are held in high esteem by this hermit of the woods. A pleasure to hear you interact with Lex and to witness your verve.
It was a pleasure listening to this dialogue. A very smart humble man. Every professor, every school teacher should be like that.
“We are probably not the sharpest cookie in the jar” I’ve never heard that one.
" we are probably the most delicious tool in the shed"
When you accidentally drop a razorblade in the cookie dough
Mixed metaphor
Red Dwarf
We are the most stinky in the galaxy.
I could listen to Avi Loeb all day!! His new book is fascinating!!❤️
Hi, you're the only commenter mentioning the book (just bought it- haven't read it) what did you think of it?
I saw some UK Amazon reviews pointing out the "2 autobiographical chapters" or potential "arrogance" of the Author and I was concerned.
I think and hope its because he's a new voice to the mainstream under pressure to introduce himself to us and that he really gets into his theories! Also I found some of the reviews saying "he just kept talking about israel" a little low key anti semitic because if it was any other obscure country these same reviewers would be begging to know more 'muh exotic culture- Sushi roll and meditation types 😄"
However, nobody likes a preachy person and if I want a book about Israel I'll read it!
Please tell me it talks a lot more about the theories 🤞
avi is pure gold. need more of him
Yeah, 'comedy gold', scientifically... you have to stop taking someone seriously when they bring out Noah's Ark as fact.
@@telsutton He never claimed it to be a fact. I mean, wasn't it obvious? I genuinely do not understand how exactly you managed to interpret it this way.
Lex thank you for letting him talk a lot :-) Unbelievably inspiring to listen to Avi Loeb talking about cutting down bureaucracy and ego, and what cannot be done, and focusing on what CAN BE done!